Jordan SMASHES LeBron In The Goat Debate 😲🐐

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
  • Watch the full convo → • Top 2023 NBA Draft Pic...

ความคิดเห็น • 1.9K

  • @ovithegreat8817
    @ovithegreat8817 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The “off the court” argument is ridiculous

    • @2playschemeo.p.croutes724
      @2playschemeo.p.croutes724 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MJ fans Love the game of basketball
      LBJ fans, “it’s just basketball at the end of the day”

    • @anonymousk1634
      @anonymousk1634 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂 Lebron love the kids that’s why he’s the goat

  • @Ben-gd9zz
    @Ben-gd9zz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +218

    Why is Lebron wearing 23? because MJ is the GOAT, on the court, off it, sneaker deals, movies, documentaries anything MJ did became the blueprint to copy.

    • @GoudaTheCavalier
      @GoudaTheCavalier 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We all love MJ for his shoes. We don’t care for his selfish plays. He’s equivalent to Wilt, except wilt only won 6 rings. Remember it’s a team game, it’s not about one player so don’t get it twisted.

    • @jayrush5141
      @jayrush5141 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@GoudaTheCavalier wilt won 6 rings? 😂 kid. just sleep.

    • @AdmiralMayo
      @AdmiralMayo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bro thinks mj is the goat basketball player cause he has nice shoes lol

    • @GoudaTheCavalier
      @GoudaTheCavalier 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So because someone looks up to someone the ycant be better? Wtf?

    • @Ben-gd9zz
      @Ben-gd9zz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@GoudaTheCavalier come on kid don’t get emotional over meaningless things lol

  • @yaboy1414
    @yaboy1414 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    Off the court lmao 😅😅😅😅
    Mane stop it lol

    • @melvinglosen6649
      @melvinglosen6649 ปีที่แล้ว

      @yaboy1414 Seriously bro off court gtfoh.😆😆😆

    • @kevmersa6578
      @kevmersa6578 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts!

    • @zavdab5238
      @zavdab5238 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Boy moved the goal posts to a different country

    • @just_jeff4839
      @just_jeff4839 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "off the court" WTF MJ is still dominating off the court... there's a really good reason why Jordan brand eclipses all other NBA players brands... like yo, that's off the court.

    • @Nysdaddy
      @Nysdaddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @just…
      That really good reason was what Mike did on the court. His accomplishments on the court made everything off the court as successful & impactful or whatever as it has been all these years.
      It’s the same thing with Mike’s 6-0…he’s not the Goat because he has a 6-0 record in the Finals, that ninja went 6-0 in the Finals because he’s the best and most complete player ever, the Goat.

  • @jevonbrown1737
    @jevonbrown1737 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Did she just say offensive player of the year?????

    • @davids.7845
      @davids.7845 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      They stay making up awards for a dude they never even watched 😂😂 the only game she’s been alive to see Mj play is craps at the Bellagio

    • @MrDoublebeats
      @MrDoublebeats ปีที่แล้ว +136

      ​@@davids.7845well he won MVP(which is what I think she was talking about) DPOY, as well as All defense and NBA first team as well as lead the league in scoring and steals in one season. I have never seen another person ever do that

    • @scarfacetheadonis2269
      @scarfacetheadonis2269 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@davids.7845🤣🤣🤣bro i was like what???!!!

    • @KERNZSPORTSPRODUCTIONS
      @KERNZSPORTSPRODUCTIONS ปีที่แล้ว +64

      MVP !!! My guy you know what she meant.

    • @stevesfair
      @stevesfair ปีที่แล้ว +55

      ​@@KERNZSPORTSPRODUCTIONS😂 they trying to be all technical for no reason knowing they knew what she meant.....

  • @ShortSegaa
    @ShortSegaa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    He literally just called MJ the GOAT. “On the court Jordan is the GOAT” GGs Jordan wins

  • @chrystianfrey2983
    @chrystianfrey2983 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    She acts like she's so well educated but doesn't know the offensive player of they year award doesn't exist..

    • @ERizzo5
      @ERizzo5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      She means scoring title. And yes jordan won the scoring title and DPOTY in the same season. He’s won multiple scoring titles, mvps, 1st team all defense in the same season. This debate isn’t really close.

    • @StarryNight4024
      @StarryNight4024 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      MJ has 10 scoring titles while LeBron has one. Its not even close.

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@StarryNight4024Lebron didn’t make scoring his number one priority like Jordan did…different styles of play…Lebron dished out 8AST a game to help his teammates

    • @Imfrombroward_jit
      @Imfrombroward_jit ปีที่แล้ว

      U don’t know what these females know don’t understand cause of gender

    • @natedablack7857
      @natedablack7857 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Turkeycock28
      Well, prior to MJ's Wizard seasons lowering some of his career avgs (assists being one of 'em), when he retired in '98 his apg avg stood at 7 a game.
      Which means that he was handing out 7apg to "help his teammates", while playing OFF the ball.
      LBJ on the other hand, avgs 7apg as the facilitator.
      Let that sink in for a min....

  • @specterone2474
    @specterone2474 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Off the court. That dude a weirdo.

    • @nassiglutt6587
      @nassiglutt6587 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbf to him he still said MJ is the best at basketball

    • @DCJ9
      @DCJ9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who?

    • @FireAttack0811
      @FireAttack0811 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Okay so you saying that jordan sneaker deals and the fact that jordan made the nba more popular is thrown out the window okay okay

    • @specterone2474
      @specterone2474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FireAttack0811 That has nothing to do with why he's the goat. Okay okay.

    • @FireAttack0811
      @FireAttack0811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@specterone2474 Then why people keep bringing it up in goat conversations

  • @deontei1
    @deontei1 ปีที่แล้ว +754

    When she said she didnt have to watch Jordan play, she lost all credibility in this convo

    • @x18dicekx
      @x18dicekx ปีที่แล้ว +108

      And doubled down by bringing up sneaker sales lmao

    • @isaiahzay3392
      @isaiahzay3392 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      💯

    • @chasenickles260
      @chasenickles260 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      Shes right though.. if you never watched a game in your life and someone gives you lebron and michael jordon resume and ask you which one is the g.o.a.t , who do you think people are gonna pick

    • @sportspsp
      @sportspsp ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ⁠@@chasenickles260you can actually watch the game to make an argument for Bron. That’s why we watch the game based every component such as playmaking, ballhandling, defense, shooting, accolades and more. Even though MJ is the goat, doesn’t you can’t watch 🏀 and not make a point

    • @thottydagod457
      @thottydagod457 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      i didnt watch jordan play...i know he the goat

  • @BAABPC
    @BAABPC ปีที่แล้ว +320

    How did she throw the shoe deal in and then rule out all the off the court stuff?!

    • @Meccanoltd
      @Meccanoltd ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Women…………. It’s a whole new ball game. You can’t sit here and tell me the game doesn’t evolve and it’s stayed the same. The reason why there is an argument is because it isn’t clear who is GOAT

    • @yung2o365
      @yung2o365 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @remnant8898
      @remnant8898 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      the shoe deal is related to basketball......

    • @mr.getitdone6543
      @mr.getitdone6543 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      ​@remnant8898 exactly.. they're just trying to find something wrong with the woman's opinion or they just are in love with Bron

    • @HoopVerse360
      @HoopVerse360 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      because sneakers and shoe deals are part of basketball, it is on the court.

  • @coachnix8678
    @coachnix8678 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Moving the goalpost to off the court is wild😂

  • @chadcat420
    @chadcat420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Michael Jordan retired from the game for 2 years, then came back and won 3 straight. Jordan got drunk one day playing golf then scored 52 vs the Cavs that same night. LeQueen cries for respect and thinks he's a politician

  • @thekobechannel4610
    @thekobechannel4610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    This woman is absolutely correct Michael Jordan is the GOAT

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1-9 without pippen

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Most overrated player in the history of sports

    • @reptar5124
      @reptar5124 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@BungycbHis only Allstar teammate while LeBron had the MOST ever of any player so COPE

    • @TICKFR
      @TICKFR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeekMillisbendingoverrndo you even KNOW the other player in this video

    • @user-mh6nm5mv4b
      @user-mh6nm5mv4b 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeekMillisbendingoverrnwho Lebron?

  • @camgrizzly
    @camgrizzly ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Not her off court argument is his shoes 😂

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      His shoes are a by-product of him on the court.

    • @camgrizzly
      @camgrizzly ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rackball5858 does that make his off court better than Bron's?

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camgrizzly Nope. If the only way to pimp up Lebron is to discuss “off court” greatness, then the debate is dead. Both are extreme capitalists. Anyone who thinks that the I Promise school is coming totally out of Lebron’s pockets, I’ve got a house on the lake to sell to you. Lebron’s family man image hasn’t been dented yet because he hasn’t been busted.

    • @mr.getitdone6543
      @mr.getitdone6543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rackball5858🎯🎯🎯

    • @HoopVerse360
      @HoopVerse360 ปีที่แล้ว

      shoes or shoe sales is not off the court. i mean you can't play basketball without a pair and it's part of the game and culture 😄. being a philantrophy doesn't involve anything with basketball so that's off the court.

  • @elvingallard7255
    @elvingallard7255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Bulls were loaded, Pippen, Kukoc Rodman, Harper. The rest of the 90s teams were not great teams, the Knicks were Ewing and a bunch of role players Charlie Ward a football player was the PG.

    • @CurtisMartin-ej9it
      @CurtisMartin-ej9it 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You just young bro😂😂😂

    • @malvolio01
      @malvolio01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CurtisMartin-ej9itThere were plenty of great teams in the 90s. Lakers, Detroit, Trailblazers, Suns, Sonics, Jazz, Houston.
      And the Bulls were not stacked when they won their first 3. It was Jordan, Pippen and a buncha role players. Were you even around in the 90s?

  • @christopherquaye1633
    @christopherquaye1633 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He changed the game globally too. Ppl dont talk about that

  • @KP43-08
    @KP43-08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This debate will go on after I’m dead and I’m 22 it will never end sports are debatable! Can’t just say one person is good at one sport it’s all about perspective and personal opinions.

    • @Epicentr
      @Epicentr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, your favorite player does not make them the goat. Stats rule.

    • @KP43-08
      @KP43-08 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Epicentr not necessarily

  • @TonySoul
    @TonySoul หลายเดือนก่อน

    She didnt even watch him play!!!! Thats how half these people sound. Insane!

  • @chucky8819
    @chucky8819 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    We’re not talking about philanthropy but she said Jordan changed the game cause of his shoe deal lol 😂😂

    • @FuhqEwe
      @FuhqEwe ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The deal opened the door for _all_ athletes, changing the _sport_ itself. That’s not philanthropy.

    • @ImBarryScottCSS
      @ImBarryScottCSS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@FuhqEweHow much money athletes make off shoe deals has fuck all to do with who was a better basketball player.

    • @FuhqEwe
      @FuhqEwe ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ImBarryScottCSS I’m not sure if you have a cognitive impairment or you’ve just commented on the wrong thing.

    • @bboywolf
      @bboywolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@ImBarryScottCSSif lebron didnt have all his sneaker endorsements he wouldnt have gone to miami and taken a paycut... if michael jordan didnt do his 1 year 30 mil deal lebron wouldnt have thought to do the same in cleveland... jordan upped the value of an all time great player allowing them to dictate more of what happens on their team. Something lebron directly benefitted from

    • @kobediedlol1757
      @kobediedlol1757 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That changed the marketing of basketball not the actual game itself.
      Try again son​@@FuhqEwe

  • @yaboy1414
    @yaboy1414 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I ain’t never went to
    The gym and picked up players based on what they do off the court lmaoo.
    Be in the gym talking about is you a good dad ? Do you help out in the community. Ok bet I got u. 😂😂😂

  • @nobra630
    @nobra630 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    USA: mj vs LeBron
    WORLD: messi vs ronaldo

  • @latinorock
    @latinorock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it about Basketball when it comes to GOAT convos...If the player does not have more than 6 Finals MVPs , there is no comparison. Bill Russell has 11 chips, he was not the best player on those NBA Finals runs, and there were less than 20 teams in the league.

  • @JoshuaWarrington10
    @JoshuaWarrington10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    LBJ-
    4x Rings❌, 4x FMVP❌, 4x MVP❌, 0x DPOY❌, 1x Scoring Champ❌,1x AST Champ✔, 0x STL Champ❌, 6x All-Defensive 1st Team❌, 19x All-Star✔, 3x All-Star MVP, 0x NBA Slam Dunk Contest❌, ROTY, 18x Total Awards & Trophies❌
    27.2 PPG❌, 7.5 RPG✔, 7.3 APG✔, 1.5 SPG❌, 0.8 BPG, 3.5 TPG❌, 1.8 PF✔
    50.5 FG%✔ 34.5 3PT%✔ 73.5 FT%❌
    27.2 PER❌ .226 WS/48❌
    (20 Season's)
    Longevity✔
    82 Games Played: 1x❌
    28.5 PPG, 9.0 RBG✔, 7.2 APG✔, 1.7 SPG❌, 1.0 BPG✔, 3.6 TPG❌, 2.3 PF✔
    49.5 FG%✔ 33.1 3PT%❌ 74.1 FT%❌
    27.9 PER❌ .238 WS/48❌
    MJ-
    6x Rings✔, 6x FMVP✔, 5x MVP✔, 1x DPOY✔, 10x Scoring Champ✔, 0x AST Champ❌, 3x STL Champ✔, 9x All-Defensive 1st Team✔, 14x All-Star❌, 3x All-Star MVP, 2x NBA Slam Dunk Contest✔, ROTY, 37x Total Awards & Trophies✔
    Regular Season-
    30.1 PPG✔, 6.2 RPG❌, 5.3 APG❌, 2.3 SPG✔, 0.8 BPG, 2.7 TPG✔, 2.6 PF❌
    49.7 FG%❌ 33.2 3PT%❌ 83.5 FT%✔
    27.9 PER✔ .250 WS/48✔
    (15 Seasons)
    Longevity❌
    82 Games Played 9x✔
    Playoffs-
    33.4 PPG✔, 6.4 RBG❌, 5.7 APG❌, 2.1 SPG✔, 0.9 BPG, 3.1 TPG✔, 3.0 PF❌
    48.7 FG%❌ 33.2 3PT%✔ 82.8 FT%✔
    28.6 PER✔ .255 WS/48✔
    MJ: 23✔ MJ :12❌
    LBJ: 13✔ LBJ: 22❌
    Its clear as day who better and more complete. And more importantly a better winner.
    The only answer is the true 23.

    • @Caine462
      @Caine462 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Jordan.

    • @d3adyoutubeaccount
      @d3adyoutubeaccount 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kareem, Bill Russell and Wilt are better than MJ by ur logic

    • @anthonystevenson830
      @anthonystevenson830 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@tableswastaken and all together still better than lebron

    • @Axoneba-hp1by
      @Axoneba-hp1by 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anthonystevenson830lol

    • @Axoneba-hp1by
      @Axoneba-hp1by 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certified hater 😂

  • @frankiefernandez9225
    @frankiefernandez9225 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Jordan is the Goat no matter what universe you from

    • @hyperflame7255
      @hyperflame7255 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah There Is No Goat

    • @frankiefernandez9225
      @frankiefernandez9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hyperflame7255 🐐

    • @QuavoGotFame
      @QuavoGotFame 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Lebrons better than him in all of them

    • @frankiefernandez9225
      @frankiefernandez9225 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@QuavoGotFame 😂😂😂 4 outta 10 in the finals with superteams in 20 seasons while flopping 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 goats don’t flop, and all of the greats have winning records in the finals coz that’s what you play for in case you didn’t know…and by the way tell Lechoke the Joker said easy money 🤑🤑🤑 and then tell the Joker Lechoke wants his broom 🧹 back 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 by the way Leflop is wearing number 23 this season 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @MattGWK
      @MattGWK 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@frankiefernandez9225Jordan played 15 seasons, why you just ignoring the other 9? 😅

  • @edwardhicks9481
    @edwardhicks9481 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Off the court has nothing to do with who is a better basketball player overall

  • @YvngGoat_
    @YvngGoat_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Offensive player of the year is an award? 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

  • @isamurai939
    @isamurai939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this girl❤....thank you for the explanation ❤

  • @charlesdobronxoliveira6533
    @charlesdobronxoliveira6533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a casual female saying she didn't watch jordan play is all you need to know people forget jordan played in an expansion era and has the best team every team without him the bulls were a 55 win team with lebron the cavs was a 18 win do a lot of haters and logical fans not put context into competition and eras to say the 90s era is more skilled is like saying you don't or never watched basketball back then compared to lebron era the athletes are way better and way way more skilled not to mention guards in jordan era was 6-1 let that sink in context matters people

  • @tavius88
    @tavius88 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I like her, she knows her stuff

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She really dont lmao

    • @Don2woshiftey
      @Don2woshiftey ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@sportstalkonly1442she literally said she didn’t even watch him play tf did she just look at his stats? 😂

    • @justice8193
      @justice8193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Superteam

    • @LilVenetian
      @LilVenetian ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She made up an award and listed very surface level facts that the casual nba viewer is familiar with.

    • @zavdab5238
      @zavdab5238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two three peats with a retirement in between vs super team hopper. 3 all stars buddy up in Miami, left cavs for dead then return when love and kyrie are there. Rich Paul force trades AD to Lakers for a summer camp mickey mouse ring.

  • @eastbee103
    @eastbee103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lebron i promise students cannot do math!!

  • @federicoledezma4058
    @federicoledezma4058 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Jordan da G.O.A.T. period

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The goat of beating weak watered down competition?

    • @zavdab5238
      @zavdab5238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@sportstalkonly1442they only look weak because them bulls stomping everyone

    • @Breakingthesilence0522
      @Breakingthesilence0522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Weak era goat 😂😂

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zavdab5238 it's easy to stomp everyone when u have the best team.

    • @ShortSegaa
      @ShortSegaa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sportstalkonly1442nah jordan just made them look ez LMAO

  • @CabralCreates
    @CabralCreates ปีที่แล้ว

    Jordan also donates a ton or money the only difference is that he said, that he doesn't have to advertise that, big difference.

  • @KDogduval
    @KDogduval ปีที่แล้ว +35

    She bodied dude...he's worm food💯

    • @joeyvergara8650
      @joeyvergara8650 ปีที่แล้ว

      for reals...lol

    • @debo10100
      @debo10100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude uses the worse defense ever lmao.... It's so much more he could have said lmao.... But he chose that

    • @JohnBurgundy
      @JohnBurgundy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

  • @thejerharts
    @thejerharts ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Have her whip out the stats before Pippen arrived… just saying 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @imakebeatsxwillfrmda6230
      @imakebeatsxwillfrmda6230 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Crazy y'all say that but Bron was doing nada until he started forming super teams .. y'all talk Scottie but show me a player Bron has made great like Scottie

    • @miso84
      @miso84 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      They were crazy! Probably the best basketball stats in a stretch EVER! He just didn’t have any support.

    • @thejerharts
      @thejerharts ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nolyfeedawggameplay his personal stats were great, but check his playoff stats!! TERRIBLE

    • @michaelmann5501
      @michaelmann5501 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jordan Was Incredible before Pippen Arrived

    • @michaelmann5501
      @michaelmann5501 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did u watch Jordan In The Beginning? Dude was Incredible.

  • @THRE3KINGZStudios3kz
    @THRE3KINGZStudios3kz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bill Russell had 11 rings… Wilt Chamberlain had 100pts and a bunch of all time records. Kareem Abdul Jabbar have all time career records that’s been recently broken by Lebron…
    I believe in every era has their GOATs . The game is basketball changed from the defensive style/play, 3pts, rules, etc.
    Every GOAT played to their advantage.

  • @elburonando1104
    @elburonando1104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Awesome !! She schooled you boys . She ain’t lying Michael Jordan the goat.

  • @justsayin669
    @justsayin669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She mentioned irrelevant sneaker deals and then shut down his irrelevant points about "humanitarianism" and "philanthropy"... Why can't we just stick to what happened on the court alone?

  • @FirstBallot7
    @FirstBallot7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sister, whoever she is, said all that needs to be said.. Straight SMACK DOWN.... Not to mention that she fine as hell too, Good Lawd!

  • @nyonthemap617
    @nyonthemap617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The issue is, who was the goat before lebon, before mj. So if cant even see wilt, kareem as the goat then you dont even know when the next person took over hat position so u cant even speak. Kareem all day.

  • @Dbales34
    @Dbales34 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "We're not talking about philanthropy" and "humanitarianism," yet one of the arguments cited for Jordan was "the sneaker deals." Ummm

  • @mylaughingeffect3459
    @mylaughingeffect3459 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some women shouldn’t talk sports if they ain’t joy Taylor🤣🤣🤣

  • @C4thelegend242
    @C4thelegend242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Michael is the G.OA.T

  • @lookatzay4813
    @lookatzay4813 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The media loves mj so much they even got people who ain’t even watch play saying he’s the goat😂

    • @paulalbert6970
      @paulalbert6970 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The media loves Lebron so much they try to move the goal post to make him the GOAT.. They think of other stats so they can have a case for Lebron..

    • @andrewlynch9586
      @andrewlynch9586 ปีที่แล้ว

      so did you have to be alive in the 1700s to say George Washington is the greatest president? Your logic is idiotic, people can study history and make a determination we do it everyday

  • @CrayCray9
    @CrayCray9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jordan put NBA on the global map. Jordan made NBA a global brand. No one outside Us would give a flying fuck about Lebron if it wasn’t for Jordan.

  • @bucsgang7003
    @bucsgang7003 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lebron is the GOAT and I grew up on Jordan seen him 3 peat twice and all that stuff she listed off

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How can the 🐐 have a losing finals record? We’re talking below .500

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ralegade7710use context…Jordan doesn’t beat one team that Bron lost too…you can’t just go off stats lol

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeekMillisbendingoverrn Jordan would trash the Mavericks. The Warriors would be interesting considering it’s the greatest perimeter shooters of all time vs the greatest perimeter defense of all time. Against Spurs would be a win in 6.

    • @PatrickGreney
      @PatrickGreney 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ralegade7710is goat a person or a team? Like everyone says context matters.

    • @PatrickGreney
      @PatrickGreney 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ralegade7710how can the goat have a losing record without Scottie Pippen? How can the goat have 0 winning seasons without Scottie Pippen?

  • @daimionhollins528
    @daimionhollins528 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like her! Right to the point, hands down!
    MJ the GOAT 🐐

  • @PastorAaronEdwardsHall
    @PastorAaronEdwardsHall 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm glad he said that. That's why most people say LBJ. I stopped arguing because I realized most people aren't arguing just on the court. Most people are arguing with their heart.

  • @hesolitty_
    @hesolitty_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jordan fans love to forget about the 80’s

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No one has dummy…

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Name another player in the modern era that after just two championships.. they were calling him the greatest player … you don’t win back to back and people are calling you the goat unless your body of work in the previous years displayed that .. AKA his body of work in the 80s … plus yes he woke back to back.. but then to capitalize on that sht… he won the 3rd chip …

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would they make a movie about a player after 3 championships as if he’s the greatest player to ever live … the hype was unreal.. this is all before the second 3 peat bro

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His numbers and accolades back up the argument easily

    • @laserchiefwankoo204
      @laserchiefwankoo204 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mss3183na is cuz the talent in the league was trash then

  • @kofiamoakosiawkasmow8889
    @kofiamoakosiawkasmow8889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Listen to the girl 😊

  • @ProtaJ
    @ProtaJ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wasn’t born in the 60s but I know Russell and Chamberlain were the GOATs of that era…

  • @steelmill7016
    @steelmill7016 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jordan got 2 3-Peats. If he didn’t retire early to play baseball, Bulls would’ve won 8-in-a-row!

    • @TayG_9Deuce
      @TayG_9Deuce ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can't add what ifs to his legacy. If Kyrie aand Kevin Love ain't get hurt and KD ain't join the warriors Bron would've had a 4 peat. If Kobe and Shaq stayed together they would probably have 7 or 8 too

    • @KrosstownLandLord
      @KrosstownLandLord ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @laserchiefwankoo204
      @laserchiefwankoo204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao you act like mj didn't fail to get the bulls to the finals in between those 3 peats.

    • @baruchwarrior2389
      @baruchwarrior2389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s debatable, because who on the Bulls would’ve even slowed down the Dream?
      Will Purdue? Bill Winington? Bill Cartwright?
      And I’m a life long Bulls fan, But Hakeem the Dream was a nightmare surrounded by shooters… I’m just saying. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baruchwarrior2389People often forget how well Pip did by himself those years. Hakeem definitely would’ve been a huge problem, but the Bulls would’ve still prevailed.

  • @sportspsp
    @sportspsp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree Jordan is better, but I vehemently disagree when Ashley said we don’t even need to watch the game to determine who’s the 🐐

    • @thottydagod457
      @thottydagod457 ปีที่แล้ว

      i didnt watch Jordan play...i now hes the GOAT tho

    • @sportspsp
      @sportspsp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thottydagod457then you don’t know basketball

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She meant she didn’t need to be around to watch that era in real time. In the next sentence she literally says she knows the history.

  • @pharoh32
    @pharoh32 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Her logic is flawed

    • @LooseBooty-tv7ny
      @LooseBooty-tv7ny ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So is lebron hairline

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LooseBooty-tv7nyYou’re going to hell! 😂😂😂😂

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LooseBooty-tv7nyJordan was ballsack bald his entire career

  • @jiveturkeylee
    @jiveturkeylee 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is why we don't ask women anything

  • @sergiocappellino
    @sergiocappellino 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Literally Jordan said that he's a product of his time

  • @stevedickerson1535
    @stevedickerson1535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idc that people think Jordan is the goat but the fact that ya act like lebron is not even worthy to be in that discussion is blasphemy

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should be in the discussion for 2-7. He’s a Kevin Durant type career away from achieving what Jordan achieved in 7 fewer seasons.

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who’s favorite player is Kobe, and even finds a hard time putting him in the top 5, Lebron is no where close.

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ralegade7710🤣keep hating old man

  • @breezy7016
    @breezy7016 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Young kids, I know the history of the game. There was a man called Bil Russell with 11 rings. Take that for a history lesson. But is he the goat ??

  • @9xxxxxxxxx
    @9xxxxxxxxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people think basketball is a individual sport.

  • @dfwherbie8814
    @dfwherbie8814 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jordan was a loser for basically 8 seasons. One 6 rings. Then went back to being a loser on the wizards. So yeah, context matters

    • @lisarollins4880
      @lisarollins4880 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😲........😆

    • @chrisnaylor013
      @chrisnaylor013 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      By that logic Lebron was a loser for 17 years cuz he only got 4 rings 😮‍💨

    • @dfwherbie8814
      @dfwherbie8814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisnaylor013 nope. Bc he carried that bum team to the finals at 21-22 years old. Jordon couldn’t bring his teams deep into the playoffs outside of those 6 years.

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisnaylor013you act like 4 is 10 behind 6…it’s only 2 behind and Jordan played bum ass teams to win his

    • @AB1B1
      @AB1B1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dfwherbie8814 You get no credit for carrying your team deep in the playoffs in the GOAT convo. You're using losing stats to claim a GOAT. How does that work?

  • @alexlondynn4440
    @alexlondynn4440 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro he had Scottie and Phil Jackson and Rodman too

  • @lennybeason1110
    @lennybeason1110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn, the girl making more sense than the guys ‼️😂

  • @Mirlean
    @Mirlean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you only loom at rings your argument is pointless

  • @werdone2664
    @werdone2664 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe it’s because I’m from L.A but Kobe is my GOAT 🐐

  • @darylfields
    @darylfields ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The real g.o.a.t of NBA is Bill Russell

  • @solemagus4761
    @solemagus4761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people think Staging Racial crimes
    Is Humanitarian?! 😂

  • @quentondaniels8536
    @quentondaniels8536 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They always have to add in other parts then play on the court. The GOAT argument is based on playing, not bullshit off the court.

  • @nananyantakyi1549
    @nananyantakyi1549 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just admire LeBron fans

  • @TNAGalaxyChannel
    @TNAGalaxyChannel หลายเดือนก่อน

    that woman knows her stuff

  • @keithjohnson9248
    @keithjohnson9248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She dosent know basketball talking about offensive player of the year 😂😂😂 there wasn’t an offensive player of the year of award when Jordan was playing 😂

    • @lookatzay4813
      @lookatzay4813 ปีที่แล้ว

      There isn’t any today as well, she just talking😂 plus she ain’t never watched him play so how can I take her seriously

  • @jamebrown5688
    @jamebrown5688 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nuff said, she said it! No one ate on Mike watch. He retired great basketball athletes that should’ve had championships but didn’t. Lebron, everybody was able to get some gold and that’s against his super teams.

  • @All2True4life
    @All2True4life หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bill Russell just gets forgotten about…..

  • @KnoeMeGaming
    @KnoeMeGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 championships but had a better team percent of time and also lebron is playing in a Era where ppl r 7ft5 guards and ppl shooting halfcourt shots
    Since we dont base it off championships or Bill Russel would be the goat.....Lebron is the goat

  • @joshjones9749
    @joshjones9749 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first guy is basically saying its not even about basketball for him anymore. He just has unconditional love for Lebron so hes GOAT to him. This mindset is something ill never understand.

  • @vel-judahisrael7892
    @vel-judahisrael7892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People always bring up "off the court" intangibles. Just basketball, no one is better than Jordan. No one, not Kobe, Kareem, Lebron or anyone else. Dude was just built different...his mentality and will not to lose, equipped with outrageous talent and skills...on both sides of the floor...Jordan was fear. People lost sleep before games against him.

  • @douglassgarvey653
    @douglassgarvey653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get her TF outta here lol. You don’t have to watch him play? This sums up most of MJs fanboys, people who were too young to watch him play and only seen TH-cam clips lol

  • @PhoenixRising82672
    @PhoenixRising82672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She goes harder than the dudes MJ is the GOAT

  • @DontaySmith6
    @DontaySmith6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When did we see a team recruit a top 3 player to beat Jordan.

  • @ghsense2626
    @ghsense2626 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lebron been swept too many times to be the goat

  • @90oftheworldisdumb3
    @90oftheworldisdumb3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro sent off the court is dude wears panties under his jeans😂 Bro talkin about LeBron, the father ha ha ha ha what a clown

  • @kalikels
    @kalikels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I couldn't even focus on what she was saying cuz she was so fine

  • @lakernation8370
    @lakernation8370 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basketball is a team sport their can’t be a goat in a team sport. This isn’t tennis or golf. Jordan never faced a dynasty or a team of all HOF in a finals. Nobody even remembers the players on them other teams other than the lakers. Not to mention Jordan never beat bird in a playoff series and he didn’t get them rings till Larry retired and everybody else was old.

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 91 Lakers were a 3 HOF team, while Jordan was the lone all star of the 91 Bulls …The Bulls advanced further than the Celtics in 89, 90, 91, & 92 - all while Bird & McHale were on the team. It’s not Jordan’s fault the Celtics lost before they met in a conference finals series. …Magic wasn’t old when he retired. Neither was Isiah. Who else got old?

  • @TheSiameseDreamer
    @TheSiameseDreamer ปีที่แล้ว

    He's also 10-0 in game finals.

  • @johnrobinson1648
    @johnrobinson1648 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now for me what solidify Jordan goat status for me is that Defensive Player of the Year a shooting guard that was a scorer that can do it all that's a basketball player but most of all he had some pretty good defense.

  • @BornSupreme28
    @BornSupreme28 ปีที่แล้ว

    We’re not talking about rings either….Bill Russell….anyone?

  • @DenverIn4
    @DenverIn4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will never understand how some ppl believe that because over an 8 year span, Lebron did not a single playoff series to the Paul George pacers, the derozan/Lowry raptors and the rookie Tatum/brown Celtics that that makes him better than Michael Jeffrey Jordan🤦🏿‍♂️ this is all recency bias and if Lebron was remotely close to being the 🐐, dirk would have no rings rn

  • @JamesFreeland-l9z
    @JamesFreeland-l9z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    U know Jordan is the GOAT when people have to bring up Bron building schools and marrying his highschool sweetheart to make a case for him being the GOAT.

  • @blacojay6818
    @blacojay6818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U see what Lebron fans have to resort to 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dapper892
      @dapper892 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s pathetic.

  • @blizz1004
    @blizz1004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did she just say . She ain't got to see Jordan play to say he is the GOAT 🤦🤦🤦

  • @johnellejamison7480
    @johnellejamison7480 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She literally brought up his sneakers tho 😑

  • @greatmind3823
    @greatmind3823 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jordan did not play with this level of talent that is there today in the NBA . The only one Jordan was around that was part of the generation after, Vince Carter .

  • @malikdavis4457
    @malikdavis4457 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How they gonna let this young girl talk that BS and she didn't even watch Mj

  • @professionaltrollkilla5965
    @professionaltrollkilla5965 ปีที่แล้ว

    He said off the court bro come on Jordan don’t make a spectacle about his contributions

  • @MrYoda2
    @MrYoda2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She got more logic then all the LeBron stans

  • @TheKingdavis09
    @TheKingdavis09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @jamesgadson1885
    @jamesgadson1885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This girl is on it could not have said it any better myself. These LeBron fans kill me when you talkin about comparing the two play Styles and who's the goat they want to go off and talk about something different, about Humanity come on that is not the question and has nothing to do with anything they're talking about. But that's a new one never heard that he is the goat as a human being.

  • @nbagoats4819
    @nbagoats4819 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a human being he's the goat?? Why do I want to hurl?

  • @nicoleleah9734
    @nicoleleah9734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NBA decades
    2020s: basketball with softness
    2010s: basketball with extrs 3s
    2000s: basketball with bigman iso
    1990s: basketball with kickboxing
    1980s:basketball with MMA

  • @lavellewestbrooks5352
    @lavellewestbrooks5352 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She bodied him!!! Off the court???
    😂😂😂

  • @jarvislinen6454
    @jarvislinen6454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there is no offensive player of the year in the NBA; she meant that he won the scoring title & won defensive player of the year in the same year.... her argument wins though !!!

  • @TetsunaSRO
    @TetsunaSRO หลายเดือนก่อน

    Off the court was next level bullshit...... come on man.

  • @shaneblack7609
    @shaneblack7609 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bill Russell has eleven championships She doesn't know the history