The Deprogram Episode 86 - Back And To The Left
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X. What do they all have in common? Come learn about the four main US political assassinations of the 60s!
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Whisky burns my whole face. For me, it’s like drinking mouth wash.
Wait... What are you doing here?
whit tayzonday watches The Deprogram
How the hell is tayzonday everywhere
😢 I like whisky cause I can't get drunk off of beer. But go on the pod. Holden will love to have you.
just when i thought you couldn't get any more based, you do this
truly a legend
Yugopnik went six days without drinking and completely coincidentally has a very productive week.
I'm certain these two events are completely unrelated
You guys should have fd signifier or foreign man in a foreign land on I think they would be a dope guest
Seconding this, that would be amazing
FD was on recently. I was introduced to this channel from that collab
My theory is that the CIA was just cutting it's teeth on domestic assassinations and, like the first time anyone tries anything, they sucked at it just enough for people to notice something was off.
Yugopnik 6 days without drinking??? I am very proud and amazed my Balkan brother
Balkan
Balkon
pissing and shitting myself in fear as JT describes my father word for word down to the roofing company
Don’t let him go to Jamaica
Too bad Hakim wasn't here to have his hot takes about the Kennedy boys bleeped out.
By the 1960s Malcolm X was going by the name Malik el-Shabazz, so his name DID have a k in it.
After surviving bleeding duodenal ulcers last year, I cannot drink again. Any alcohol. EVER. I'm part Serbian and my grandfather sat down and wept when he heard the news. I know how important this is to the culture. But let me say, it does get easier in time.
Hakim is doing well in saving Yugopniks kidneys
Protect his kidneys at all costs
@@zainmudassir2964 He is too based to die young
@@YouHaveAnApeHead idk how but castro was alive for 90 yrs while smoking cigar while people die young
@@goutamboppana961Reaper saw Bay of Pigs and said "Ah nah why don't you just call me when you're good"
@@CraigKeidel gopd one
Hmmm, yes, this should be fun.
Edit: Love how jt went full American commercial narrator at 14:49-15:15 in this section.
XD
And how he just goes on with a straight face after is pure gold xDD
This was LEGENDARY
I went through a cascade of thoughts and emotions during the clip: from " what the hell? Why this topic? We have to stay away from things we don't have proofs of, through "guys, entertainment isn't what We need", to "oh shiiiiiiiet the men speak for themselves"! You can hear the common motive out of their speeches. It was a danger. So they had to go. Another historical proof that We all need to be strong organisations and not a herd running blindly behind icons. We have to be organized and move as a whole so a tragic loss of a comrade doesn't harm us too much.
I also agree, but it is much easier to have a smart leader and just follow suit than collectively gain intelligence, but again that is just my assumption. However education of the masses of these groups so that when one leader is struck down two else come up could also be great since information is so easy to access, but time isnt, education of our entire groups should be the goal for any movements forward. I really hope we get to live that reality. I want the immortal proletariot to do what is needed and run undying against these wrongs
Hakim out of the house, guys go straight to drinking!
Reading the autobiography of Malcolm X is what finally broke me thru to reading theory. Learning about him literally changed my life and led me to Marxism.
That's incredible! I'm gonna read it, yours is the second recommendation I've seen so far. X was amazing. His quotes are so quotable.
Weird it shouldve made you closer to Islam since he was a Muslim above everything else.
@@hishamalaker491Yet in his biography he mentions “I have no mercy or compassion in me for a society that will crush people, and then penalise them for not being able to stand up under the weight.” Yes he was a Muslim advocate I’m in no way taking this away from you, yet he still stood for criticisms of capitalism and how Socialism, like your religion of Islam (nothing against Islam btw, it stands for great things), stands for the betterment of society as a whole and not hoping focusing on the individual helps you focus on every damn individual out there.
I'd also highly recommend _Assata: An Autobiography_ by Assata Shakur for another incredible story of Black revolutionaries, a page turner honestly and really drove home how truly beyond reform the American legal system is
23:30 JT’s video voice came out😂
"The US remains the greatest threat to world peace"
Gotta say it louder for all the clowns supporting NATO weapons shipments to Ukraine in every comments section
Loved this episode. One of the best. Still missing our iraqi ball toucher.
Everyone should read Malcolm X's autobiography. What an amazing life he lived. The man was imperfect, but he was always striving to do better, and _radically_ altered his beliefs throughout his life, including near the end of it as he began shifting much more toward socialism.
agreed. its so unfortunate that he died before expressing his true stance and ideology because most of his work throughout his life was with the Nation of Islam, a black supremacist organization who exploited fed up black peoples' money. Only once Malcolm left them we saw the true him even if it was only for a year or 2
Of course it was written down by Alex Haley, who was recently exposed as fabricating a quote by MLK that was hostile to Malcolm X, which was weird, to say the least >_>
But he was more of a Muslim and he only believed in the equality of people (since he used to be anti-white racist) when he went to mecca and saw Muslims of all races and skin colors whether white looking blond blue eyed white people or Black Africans or Brown people all together believing in the same god doing the pilgrimage and rituals also its this that convinced him of Islam. He might've shifted towards socialism at one point but he was a Muslim and he advocated for Islam and he said that if Islam was to be the religion of the US then there wouldn't be any racism which makes since especially since the prophet (pbuh) himself said in a Hadith (collection of his sayings) this: "There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a non-Arab over an Arab. Neither is the white superior over the black, nor is the black superior over the white -- except by piety." Basically he said that no one is superior over the other except by piety basically your only superior especially in the eyes of Allah (god) by your religiosity and actions in the world.
@@hishamalaker491Because Islam is one of the most compatible religions when it comes to Marxism, duh
I can’t put into words how much I fucking love this podcast and you three. Sad hakim wasn’t here for this one. But really, like Jesus, the new additions with the historical audio and the car thing jt did are just phenomenal. Amazing work as Always boys.
Love it. Its like I'm listening to an episode of the Blowback. Wonder when they'll come out with a new season
You’re in luck! Next month, August 25, bredren.
Surprised: "What?", Gleefull: "What?"
@@LaVieOfficieloh HELL YEAH!
The podcast version of this and this are different
Guys I think you fucked up 🤔😂
The podcast version is the 4th of July one with Noah Samson
“Through counterintelligence it is possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them”
Once again whenever Hakim isn't here they open with alcohol 😎
Where have you been hiding Hakim
Really sad you guys didn't do Fred Hampton.
time
they will in the cointelpro episode surely
I hope they do one on the Kent state shooting or on John Huggins
Yugo really going "shots are the silent killers"... No mfer. It's stress. You drink because you have anxiety.
We need Hakim back from the ER to deal with this haram nonsense...
Meanwhile, Hakim is out here, knuckles deep in someone's asshole wondering if the Haram juice would help him cope.
Nah
The gents misbehave when Hakim is absent
Malcolm and King's deaths hurt so fucking much.
I had to stop listening for a bit.
When I was a little girl, my grandmother kept keys on a key ring that had one of those miniature plastic peep hole viewers on it…you looked inside, and there was a picture. Hers had a portrait of JFK, MLK, and RFK, together.
It was very common to see the same portrait of those same three men printed up on paper fans, created by the town’s “Black” mortuary (Jim Crow followed you to the segregated grave), and distributed to the country Black churches in East Texas. The small country churches usually had no air conditioning, so in the Summer, you kept cool with a fan during the service. On the way to the pews, the usher gave you either a fan with a picture of blue-eyed Jesus on it, or a fan with a picture of The Three.
(I was born a little over three weeks after MLK’s murder.)
Listening to this old audio of the assassinations is terrifying...
felt the same thing
And just to think about the mass of foreign assassinations the CIA was behind...
Not to disregard JT's contributions, but US-American history is already very widely spread on the Internet and in several podcasts; I'd rather expect from The Deprogram more about the untold stories from the Third World and marginalized groups in the imperial core's working class than from white capitalist leaders (both of which were directly involved in invasions, sabotages, terrorist attacks, and economic blockades against socialist countries) and two already well-known African American civil right activists.
The format in itself could work, but it needs to tweak a little bit more the interaction and commenting aspect between the team.
Also, I miss Hakim. Two episodes in a row without listening our favourite tired Iraki doctor is very sad.
Am I the only one who heard the CIA infiltrated the nation of Islam, and imagined two suits in disguise in blackface? Lmao
Acting all sus and like racist stereotypes. It sounds like an old school SNL sketch 😂
While I feel like most episodes are great quality, this one really felt like a cut above. Good job guys.
🎉Ekdez
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15 months sober best I've ever felt under the capitalist boot
Based. I'm at 4 years. Keep going! c:
Congratulations comrades!!
congrats!
Congratulations comrade!!!
Please more of this! This was a incredibly interesting and impactful episode, esp. hearing the words of MLK Jr and Malcom X in their own voices.
Love the Blowback style. If i had to give one small criticism is that the audio clips feel a bit too long, like it breaks a bit the pace. But i would love more episodes like this, love Blowback.
JT is such a brave guy, house visit from feds only radicalized him more.
If the feds ain't knockin you ain't doin enough
It's crazy to think that these all happened in the same decade. How could you see that and NOT assume something was fishy? Also 10/10 car salesman voice, JT. Sounded just like a radio spot for a summer sale event. XD
3:43 Jamaica mentioned 🎉
Do you think you guys could get some people from Majority Report, Left Reckoning and Leftist Mafia on? :D or are they kinda left-libs or?
Love y'all!
I'll love some left black commentators like F.D. signifier and This is Revolution Podcast. They are good in analysing and calling out Black Elite which pretty much serve the Democratic party
@@zainmudassir2964Yet they're "vote Blue" liberals themselves 😂
FIRST ON THE DEPROGRAM COMMENTS WOOOO
Where is Hakim ?
Spicy. JT's fbi agent will have a field day with this one lol
I listened JT's last minute summary about the US so many times.... Pretty much spot on!
You gotta get some shots in to ensure you're toasted at the end of the day😂
Love from Jamaica comrades❤
Love the format, all the original audio clips were great, but I gotta admit the best part that really caught me off guard was JT's ad read for the limo LMAO
Can’t wait, thanks for the episode as usual.
The intro needed Hakim specially the whole ~people are not getting old, it's the SHOTS!~ part lol
When will you invite BadEmpanada into the podcast?
When they get Hannibal Lecter style restraints to keep his feral as under control lmao
@@michaelslowmin What did he do now, lmao?
@@qwerty9797 Oh idk I'm just joking cuz he can get very unhinged lmao
Invite Bad Empanada on here!!!
Great editing! These clips aren't the easiest to access and your efforts are appreciated making it seemless and informative. Thank you comrade
"judging by my FBI file" - JT 56:05 lmao
FINALY IVE BEEN CRAVING FOR THIS i just gotta finish 4 more deprogramge eps
There's an extra episode on google podcast, 87 is there but named 86
Why does this feel like a Blowback episode xD
Oh shit we're getting back blown, i mean blowback production levels here
23:15 Chill Goblin has an excellent 105min video about the JFK assassination!
When we gonna get that Black Panther episode? or Eugene Debs episode (early socialist party of america)?
Chill Goblin has a great video about the JFK conspiracy. Think it’s about 2 hours or so long. It’s great.
On Spotify you guys accidentally uploaded episode 88 under 87
TrueAnon also has an earlier 6 part series on JFK. Death Around the Corner Podcast with Michael Judge goes extensively over JFK and the deep state.
Great episode guys! Recent episodes have been very informative
RIP leather man, you were my hero 🙏
29:30 the podcast Blowback also talks about the JFK assassination towards the end of their Cuba series, great podcast overall
I'm from the US and I would call myself a patriot. In the US that word has been glorified while also being defined as you would define nationalism. But I'm not patriotic for symbolism like a bald eagle with and AK-47 in front of white stripes and bright stars, and I'm certainly not partriotic to the government. But I'm patriotic for the people, especially the revolutionaries--people that have had to fight AGAINST the government to progress their rights and the rights of others
trueanon actually had a 6-part series about the jfk assassination (aside from the recent interview with james dieugenio), i highly recommend it. there's so much going on it's incredible
I think you accidentally uploaded episode 87 on Spotify today
I like the new format but a warning about audio of people being shot/killed and screaming crowds being played would have been good. Or time stamps so we'd know where skip, something like that.
Hearing the original clips and reports really puts you in the moment of these events, it was really powerful. This was awesome
Also though, best intro ever!
My conspiracy of JFK is that he didn't get shot but his head just did that
Praying you guys don't have dreadful deboonker cOnSpirAcy ThEoRy take. All four were wacked by the feds
damn! You did an episode with Noah Samsen before badempanada? :/
Ide love to see you guys talk about Phil Ochs! He was a socialist singer songwriter who the FBI harrased to the point of suicide. His songs are very hopeful and longing; I suppose that can be said of most socialist songs. (He made love me I'm a liberal).
Probably this is a much smaller case but. I think an interesting topic could be the suppression of arts and expression under capitalism. Phil Ochs is not alone in what happened to him, and it is the same for leftist artists trough out history, bouth in imperial core the global south.
putting jfk,rfk with mlk, Malcolm x
42:20 yeah "thank god Hakim isn't here" full stop.
This is outstanding. Now, do 1.5 hours about the US and South America.
They should do at least a 3 or 4 part episode covering all the invasions and coup attempts in Latin America from the Cold War up to this day.
@@Ajente02 I second this suggestion!
can anyone link those JFK resources they mentioned?
great format and very informative, thank you boys !! Hakim greatly missed
The Triumph of Evil
Just finished the new season of Clone High and the clone of JFK had a really strong character arc. Much less of an antagonist than he was in season 1.
Bill hicks has the best joke/ brief analysis about the JFK Assasination hands down.
Which also segues beautifully into why Jesus hasn't returned
I've also cut back on drinking recently, but a few nights ago I let loose with my brother, and I have to say, I don't really get hangovers much but boy howdy does a night of drinking make me need to go to the bathroom every five fucking minutes. Seriously, poo and pee, big ones, constantly.
Big ones 💀
Hey! just a heads up, it seems that episode 87 was released (but titled as Episode 86) on itunes!
I don’t understand how even if it was Oswald in Mexico city how would that link him to Cuba or communists in general when Mexico had always been anti communist since the end of the Revolutionary era.
It has nothing to do with Mexico as a nation-state.. the implication surrounding his alleged trip to Mexico surrounds alleged visits to the Cuban and Soviet embassies, thats the communism bit. I personally was convinced he was a fake defector independent of whatever did or did not happen in Mexico so I've never even looked much into that bit of it
Despite Mexico's anticommunism is true, after the Revolution in 1910 Mexican foreign policy turned quite strongly towards neutrality and not intervention, so relationships between Mexico and Cuba (as well as Mexico and the USSR) were quite friendly. Mexico received Trotsky as an exile, for example. Also Fidel Castro and the July 26th Movement sailed into the Granma from Mexico. And many more revolutionary movements from Latin America choose Mexico as a neutral point from where to organize (including the ones from my country, the Dominican Republic).
Malcolm X: A Life of Reinvention is a biography of Malcolm X written by American historian Manning Marable.
Nice work. Thank you.
Buy top shelf and the longer you have it the better it’ll taste. It’s a show of class and restraint and respect for what you are consuming. And enjoy it in unique ways (snifters, splash of water, rocks or neat, smoked or even with garnishes) when you do.
As a Slav living in "The West" if we're actually drinking, not just socially, I make sure to order a round or two of vodka to prevent them coming up with some bullshit concoctions
Also I swear, nothing beats drinking vodka in the kitchen with some tasty things to snack on, like smoked meats and dill pickles.
The 21 cocktail guy only got through 12, and the family claims he could've lived if he had the medical help he needed
He was Bri'ish
Was that medical help a glass of water and maybe a nap?
Kennedy has a seriously powerful wacko to contend with during the Cold War: Curtis Lemay.
What kind of jobs did Malcolm and King have? Because I think about it today and I think yeah I would easily be able to go all over the place and do a lot of stuff if money wasn't an issue and I didn't have to spend at least 8 hours every day at a certain place in order to make money.
Are you familiar with Sean Geravsi economic adviser in the Kennedy Adm who resigned in protest of US invasion of Cuba?
It's the paper on the straw at those drive through alcohol places. If the paper is on the straw it's not open container
y'all reckon you can edit the background when one host is missing?
38:00 I'm literally brushing my teeth with Colgate toothpaste right now while listening to the ep
When will you invite BadEmpanada?
jesse jackson.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting
This episode is giving me big Blowback vibes
Can't wait for the COINTELPRO episode
Fucking love this episode.
14:49 I wonder if that tripped something in Yugopnik's marketing brain
45:20 "Dragovich, Steiner, Kravchenko. These men must die"
I love that car documentary spoof you did with JFK's Continental but one thing you got wrong. Usually displacement with American cars of that vintage would be refered to in cubic inches (430 cui to be exact).
Talking about cars what about doing an episode with Cars and Comrades?
You seem like the kinda guy to know this... Isn't 300hp low from a 7ltr engine? Or is that pretty normal for back in the day? Seems crazy low to me but I know little about cars of that vintage.