5:43 that's so cool! I legitimately love that concept so much, just like "hey I don't feel a woman anymore" "aight I got you homie" **holy gender laser**
Thank you! :D While I wouldn't want to be the new Worldbuilding Notes (cause that sounds like I'd be replacing her, and I like her content way too much for that!) it's definitely a fun genre to join her in :)
Something to note: The time with the least food is actually the early spring, and that's when many people starved. Because that's generally when your food stores have run out, and there isn't yet anything to scavenge, and it'll be a while before your crops are ready.
I also feel like lavender type marriages would probably be a thing in this society. Where two same sex couples pair up in opposite and maintain both relationships. But thats judt me thinking.
Yeah being trans is accepted but being in a gay mariage is frouned upon as it messes the family structure. But it's probably safe to be honest about it? Like this is my spouse which is my life partner and this is my lover who hold my heart kinda deal
Wow ! This makes a hell of a mess ! I love it ^^ You put so much little details in your explanation that it began to sound like a documentary about some real folks.
Just wondering: What happens with people beyond the normal spectrum of gender or sexuality? Love the video, as always - I feel what you mean by summer and winter family because most of my family is on the opposite side of the world from me, so I can only visit them during summer holidays. (Also wondering: your drawing of the Sirksey world shows a bit of land, some ice, and the rest is water - have the Sirksey ever tried to explore the vast ocean that covers the rest of the planet?)
I actually have plans to discuss that a bit further in a future video! There's a general attitude among the Sirksey that because physical form (and therefore gender) are so fluid, people need to uphold the arbitrary roles of their gender in order to keep the concept of gender, and the societal roles based on gender, from completely collapsing. But there are ways to uphold the arbitrary roles without actually having to suppress different sexualities or genders. Some Sirksey have sailed far north, hoping to find new lands... none have returned. Perhaps they did find something out there... (Or maybe they just sailed too far to find their way back.) Thank you for the questions! :D
I am absolutely baffled that this channel does not have hundreds of thousands of subs. Incredible content. Keep up the great work when you get the chance.
I was introduced to your channel by a friend from Discord, and I gotta say, I am deeply impressed with your work! Especially how you think about or analyze very specific stuff for your cultures, or those in real life. Keep up the good work! I hope your channel blows up!
New subscriber, late finding your channel. This is brilliant. Different, yet plausible. I really dig alternative family structures over the stereotypical western European nuclear family model.
What are the limits of the sleeping goddess magic in this world? Can people just keep convincing the goddess to make whatever in their world, or is there a point where the goddess maybe becomes more lucid and denies what the Sirksey said?
If the Sirksey say or do something that isn't very convincing, the goddess won't believe it. It has to be something that's close enough to what's visible. Which is one of the reasons you can't really temporarily turn your child into a plant - children look nothing like plants. Unless maybe your child was wearing long green triangular clothes...
I really like this world! I wonder if with this systems of family the number of households, or herdholds, would be allowed to increase at all, as distant cousins would still be part of the same family. However you only mention up to grandparents, so maybe as the older generation dies out the cousins within the same alkinsey or hinsey would split away, but it not clear to me how it would work. You also mention that the alkinsey have 20 people in each while hinsey up to 60, so herds are bigger than households. Maybe is all too logical if I understood a bit better this non nuclear family ways of kinship, I find it quite fascinating!
I'm new to your channel, but it is amazing and I love it! Do the Sirksey and the Elush live in the same world, or what is the relationship between them? Also, Biblaridion sent me
Great work! I'd like to question the 6 year long courtship period if a couple starts courting in their late teens and it doesn't work out after four or five years, would the girl need to wait until 30 before it was culturally appropriate to become a mother?
I know this is an old video and you'll probably never see this, but I had a question about women aging and picking a man to spend winter with his family until 6 years pass and she's considered married. What if another woman picks him at the same time she does? Or if he's for some reason traveling outside of his family for a bit of time and she picks him thinking he doesn't already have a woman who stays with his family? Is it a common occurrence for many women to be in one male's family for a time until they've chosen someone else or chosen him? Does he politely decline a woman asking to stay with his family, saying he already has a suitor? And what if a woman stays with a man one year, then another the next, and then goes back to the other male and stays with him for 5 years? Is it considered 6 years still, or would she need to stay another year to make it 6 years consecutively?
I love the video but I am left wondering something. What goes on with the maternal uncle's children as well as the paternal aunt and her children? Do they have terms for these relatives? Do they visit with these relatives during the transitory periods between summer and winter? Are they just treated as strangers?
Hmmm... I like this genre of worldbuilding with images. I think I'll join it. Maybe give it a bad name with the horrific and unnecessarily edgy societies of my worlds and the worlds themselves. You're watching a video about the Hami and their collective tribe names and BAM you find out that they're cannibals who eat their dead as a way of carrying their spirits down the generations, and that they'll sometimes destroy the corpses of their enemies such as by eating them themselves or cremating them as a means of preventing their enemies' families from being able to eat them cos "they're our enemies so screw 'em and their hopes of being able to keep the spirits of their dead with them, that's why".
So within their culture a homosexual couple is pressured to have one of them change their sex. Say both parties are comfortable with their genders and sex one would then have to change into a sex they aren't comfortable with to have their relationship seen as legitimate. Basically forcing them to be something they're not for love (with straight people maybe even believing that the one who changes is the more dedicated one, leading to all sorts of weird romantisisations of it). Maybe in their twilight years the sex changed person may switch back to their original sex (because they would now be to old to have children) though they may have accepted themselves as a different gender after All that time, or societal pressures may not want them to change back as all their children and all of their second family have known them as one way their entire life. (This existing in a fictional culture isn't bad, but it does need to be pointed out )(though you may have already thought about this and thought it was to complicated to add to the video)
Yes!! Le Guin is great :D I love how authentic her worldbuilding feels - so much attention to detail and the way people think about the world and engage with each other. Though I only read that one a while after coming up with this - I'm gonna redo the Sirksey system at some point with all the new thoughts! (also im 90% sure i follow you on tumblr lmao hi)
5:41 uh that does cause a conundrum. If a woman changed into a man after a year or so and she met with a man who changed into a woman, both have children which families is the paternal winter family and the maternal summer family?
Time, practise, picking random stuff up from DeviantArt tutorials, trying to study the styles of other artists I like. To be honest I've been kind of on and off with art for years - I draw more for these videos than I have for ages, so all the practise has actually helped me a lot!
I find it interesting that in this culture your pretty in the clear as a trans person but not nearly so for gay people. Its an odd combination and one that surprisingly happens in Iran of all places. Pretty shitty for gay couples unless the two end up swapping gender periodically or have kids as a hetero couple before they turn back into a gay couple after both become infertile.
Dang, I was super interested in your world building - all the way up until you said one member of a same sex couple is expected to change sex. That is super homophobic, and I can't like or promote it. Sorry.
I don't think this should happen in real life, to be clear (and I'm not straight myself). The Sirksey do not understand gender and sexuality in the same way we do, and the ways they do understand it can be unpleasant to us. This isn't meant to be a utopia, just a world, and bigotry exists in this world just as it does in ours.
Creating a fictional culture having gender and sex ideas that differ from modern LGBT+ inclusivity is not the same as an endorsement of that ideology. Many cultures have dogmatic cultural rules on gender that aren't necessarily very good to some folks. There is no fault on the creator for making such a culture, as while the *culture* may have some homophobic ideas, the creator is not endorsing it as a good thing necessarily. If you prefer worlds without any unpleasant cultural artifacts, that's fine, but it is not an issue with the worldbuilding.
A perfect, utopian world-build is often (not always, but often) not a good world-build. It serves some purposes well, but certainly not this channel’s. If you worldbuild to write stories, where is the challenge for the protagonist if the world has no societal flaws. Even if the immediate conflict isn’t protagonist vs society, every conflict with a beast, with nature, with even one fellow man or woman including themselves represents a lack of pure perfection in the society because everyone is a part of society. If you worldbuild to make a naturalistic world, the sole sample we have of a real world is messy, fallen, and full of evil, misguided, false, and otherwise awful ideas which incredibly often reach positions to be enforced by organized violence. Even you worldbuild to demonstrate an ideology you rather like, it ending up as a pure utopia is almost a sure sign you have made a miscalculation (or more likely, a knowing calculation) that will get lots of human beings killed in horrible ways if the ideology is ever truly tried in earnest.
5:43 that's so cool! I legitimately love that concept so much, just like "hey I don't feel a woman anymore" "aight I got you homie" **holy gender laser**
I like the inclusion of the 'affectionate' category for each noun, it's way too wholesome
I really think that this channel is the new Worldbuilding notes, and I hope this genre of youtube channel becomes more popular.
Thank you! :D While I wouldn't want to be the new Worldbuilding Notes (cause that sounds like I'd be replacing her, and I like her content way too much for that!) it's definitely a fun genre to join her in :)
I agree you have similar energy, love both channels
absolutely agreed, ewa energy is a thing now and i celebrate this
Me tooo❤️
Something to note: The time with the least food is actually the early spring, and that's when many people starved. Because that's generally when your food stores have run out, and there isn't yet anything to scavenge, and it'll be a while before your crops are ready.
I also feel like lavender type marriages would probably be a thing in this society. Where two same sex couples pair up in opposite and maintain both relationships. But thats judt me thinking.
Yeah
being trans is accepted but being in a gay mariage is frouned upon as it messes the family structure.
But it's probably safe to be honest about it? Like this is my spouse which is my life partner and this is my lover who hold my heart kinda deal
Like waterbending
This is genuinely so cool. I love the concept of mixed matrilineal and patrilineal systems in the same culture.
Wow ! This makes a hell of a mess ! I love it ^^
You put so much little details in your explanation that it began to sound like a documentary about some real folks.
Thank you so much! Mess and complexity are so fun to create :P
Your pfp seems familiar
this is honestly great, I'm actually thinking of making worldbuilding videos now
Yes! Join us!
Same it seems like a good way to convey world building information outside of wikis and pages and pages of documents.
Thank you so much for including lgbtq people!! It means a lot to me to be able to see myself (a trans person) inside someone else's world!
Just wondering: What happens with people beyond the normal spectrum of gender or sexuality? Love the video, as always - I feel what you mean by summer and winter family because most of my family is on the opposite side of the world from me, so I can only visit them during summer holidays. (Also wondering: your drawing of the Sirksey world shows a bit of land, some ice, and the rest is water - have the Sirksey ever tried to explore the vast ocean that covers the rest of the planet?)
I actually have plans to discuss that a bit further in a future video! There's a general attitude among the Sirksey that because physical form (and therefore gender) are so fluid, people need to uphold the arbitrary roles of their gender in order to keep the concept of gender, and the societal roles based on gender, from completely collapsing. But there are ways to uphold the arbitrary roles without actually having to suppress different sexualities or genders.
Some Sirksey have sailed far north, hoping to find new lands... none have returned. Perhaps they did find something out there... (Or maybe they just sailed too far to find their way back.)
Thank you for the questions! :D
I am absolutely baffled that this channel does not have hundreds of thousands of subs. Incredible content. Keep up the great work when you get the chance.
Very well thought through! As believable as Le Guin's Kesh, painted in just a few strokes.
You are a master, Nakari!
Thank you! I read Always Coming Home not long after I made this and it's so beautiful, I'm flattered by the comparison :D
I was introduced to your channel by a friend from Discord, and I gotta say, I am deeply impressed with your work! Especially how you think about or analyze very specific stuff for your cultures, or those in real life. Keep up the good work! I hope your channel blows up!
I love your video, glad to see the Sirksey are coming along, I think I want to do a similar seasonal variation in family, thanks for the inspiration
Watching this while sick. I love your wordlbuilding style (though I'm drowsy so a lot of it is going over my head). I'm glad I found your channel.
Thank you! Hope you get better soon :P
This system is so cool I never thought of that!
That was a fairly unusual concept! Very well imagined, thank you for sharing.
This is giving emperor penguin energy and I love it
New subscriber, late finding your channel. This is brilliant. Different, yet plausible. I really dig alternative family structures over the stereotypical western European nuclear family model.
What are the limits of the sleeping goddess magic in this world? Can people just keep convincing the goddess to make whatever in their world, or is there a point where the goddess maybe becomes more lucid and denies what the Sirksey said?
If the Sirksey say or do something that isn't very convincing, the goddess won't believe it. It has to be something that's close enough to what's visible. Which is one of the reasons you can't really temporarily turn your child into a plant - children look nothing like plants. Unless maybe your child was wearing long green triangular clothes...
@@NakariSpeardane that sound like it would be useful during times of conflict, bu i'm in to shallowly to understand their views on conflict
I really like this world! I wonder if with this systems of family the number of households, or herdholds, would be allowed to increase at all, as distant cousins would still be part of the same family. However you only mention up to grandparents, so maybe as the older generation dies out the cousins within the same alkinsey or hinsey would split away, but it not clear to me how it would work. You also mention that the alkinsey have 20 people in each while hinsey up to 60, so herds are bigger than households. Maybe is all too logical if I understood a bit better this non nuclear family ways of kinship, I find it quite fascinating!
this is amazing, hope you get more attention!
I'm new to your channel, but it is amazing and I love it!
Do the Sirksey and the Elush live in the same world, or what is the relationship between them?
Also, Biblaridion sent me
Great work! I'd like to question the 6 year long courtship period if a couple starts courting in their late teens and it doesn't work out after four or five years, would the girl need to wait until 30 before it was culturally appropriate to become a mother?
The older people get, the more accepted it is for them to just kinda... fudge it :P
beautiful
I know this is an old video and you'll probably never see this, but I had a question about women aging and picking a man to spend winter with his family until 6 years pass and she's considered married. What if another woman picks him at the same time she does? Or if he's for some reason traveling outside of his family for a bit of time and she picks him thinking he doesn't already have a woman who stays with his family? Is it a common occurrence for many women to be in one male's family for a time until they've chosen someone else or chosen him? Does he politely decline a woman asking to stay with his family, saying he already has a suitor? And what if a woman stays with a man one year, then another the next, and then goes back to the other male and stays with him for 5 years? Is it considered 6 years still, or would she need to stay another year to make it 6 years consecutively?
thinking of moving in with the sirksey to transition for free
v cool
I love the video but I am left wondering something. What goes on with the maternal uncle's children as well as the paternal aunt and her children? Do they have terms for these relatives? Do they visit with these relatives during the transitory periods between summer and winter? Are they just treated as strangers?
And I forgot to also ask about nieces, nephews and grandchildren. What's the story there?
Hmmm... I like this genre of worldbuilding with images. I think I'll join it. Maybe give it a bad name with the horrific and unnecessarily edgy societies of my worlds and the worlds themselves.
You're watching a video about the Hami and their collective tribe names and BAM you find out that they're cannibals who eat their dead as a way of carrying their spirits down the generations, and that they'll sometimes destroy the corpses of their enemies such as by eating them themselves or cremating them as a means of preventing their enemies' families from being able to eat them cos "they're our enemies so screw 'em and their hopes of being able to keep the spirits of their dead with them, that's why".
So within their culture a homosexual couple is pressured to have one of them change their sex. Say both parties are comfortable with their genders and sex one would then have to change into a sex they aren't comfortable with to have their relationship seen as legitimate. Basically forcing them to be something they're not for love (with straight people maybe even believing that the one who changes is the more dedicated one, leading to all sorts of weird romantisisations of it).
Maybe in their twilight years the sex changed person may switch back to their original sex (because they would now be to old to have children) though they may have accepted themselves as a different gender after All that time, or societal pressures may not want them to change back as all their children and all of their second family have known them as one way their entire life. (This existing in a fictional culture isn't bad, but it does need to be pointed out )(though you may have already thought about this and thought it was to complicated to add to the video)
Yeah I noticed that. Like I guess they will be some prejudice for being gay and not wanting to switch genders to become straight
have you read seasons of the ansarac by ursula k le guin? reminds me of that
Yes!! Le Guin is great :D I love how authentic her worldbuilding feels - so much attention to detail and the way people think about the world and engage with each other. Though I only read that one a while after coming up with this - I'm gonna redo the Sirksey system at some point with all the new thoughts!
(also im 90% sure i follow you on tumblr lmao hi)
5:41 uh that does cause a conundrum. If a woman changed into a man after a year or so and she met with a man who changed into a woman, both have children which families is the paternal winter family and the maternal summer family?
How did you learn drawing?
Time, practise, picking random stuff up from DeviantArt tutorials, trying to study the styles of other artists I like. To be honest I've been kind of on and off with art for years - I draw more for these videos than I have for ages, so all the practise has actually helped me a lot!
Do they have to stay the changed sex?
I find it interesting that in this culture your pretty in the clear as a trans person but not nearly so for gay people. Its an odd combination and one that surprisingly happens in Iran of all places.
Pretty shitty for gay couples unless the two end up swapping gender periodically or have kids as a hetero couple before they turn back into a gay couple after both become infertile.
Dang, I was super interested in your world building - all the way up until you said one member of a same sex couple is expected to change sex. That is super homophobic, and I can't like or promote it. Sorry.
I don't think this should happen in real life, to be clear (and I'm not straight myself). The Sirksey do not understand gender and sexuality in the same way we do, and the ways they do understand it can be unpleasant to us. This isn't meant to be a utopia, just a world, and bigotry exists in this world just as it does in ours.
@@NakariSpeardane Fair enough.
Creating a fictional culture having gender and sex ideas that differ from modern LGBT+ inclusivity is not the same as an endorsement of that ideology. Many cultures have dogmatic cultural rules on gender that aren't necessarily very good to some folks. There is no fault on the creator for making such a culture, as while the *culture* may have some homophobic ideas, the creator is not endorsing it as a good thing necessarily.
If you prefer worlds without any unpleasant cultural artifacts, that's fine, but it is not an issue with the worldbuilding.
reality is not all unproblematic, and conworlds oughtn't be either.
A perfect, utopian world-build is often (not always, but often) not a good world-build. It serves some purposes well, but certainly not this channel’s.
If you worldbuild to write stories, where is the challenge for the protagonist if the world has no societal flaws. Even if the immediate conflict isn’t protagonist vs society, every conflict with a beast, with nature, with even one fellow man or woman including themselves represents a lack of pure perfection in the society because everyone is a part of society.
If you worldbuild to make a naturalistic world, the sole sample we have of a real world is messy, fallen, and full of evil, misguided, false, and otherwise awful ideas which incredibly often reach positions to be enforced by organized violence.
Even you worldbuild to demonstrate an ideology you rather like, it ending up as a pure utopia is almost a sure sign you have made a miscalculation (or more likely, a knowing calculation) that will get lots of human beings killed in horrible ways if the ideology is ever truly tried in earnest.