Yo, please don't worry about the "equal playthroughs with every Pokemon" stuff. Please just don't skip meals, sleep or time with your wife. It doesn't help anyone if you get sick or get burnout.
Exactly, it's never worth sacrificing your body & lifestyle for work, I can't even imagine doing all that just so I can be more of a people pleaser for strangers than my own lifestyle
I demand he sacrifices health and relationships and his third born for MY ENTERTAINMENT!!!! /s, completely agree with you , if he takes care of himself we'll all still be here even if it's a playthrough or two less
Scott, Your well being and time with your family are always more important than some person that’s butthurt on the internet. I think anyone that’s worth listening to sees the amount of effort and care you put into these videos. You’re a person with a life and not a content making machine. You could do a 100 hundred runs with each Pokemon and I am confident that someone would find something to complain about. Please don’t take those negative comments to heart.
Don't let the vocal minority get you down with how you're doing these playthroughs! What you're doing is amazing. And as others have said make sure you're finding a healthy work-life balance! As for you asking for feedback about glitches and rules, I think the dig/paralysis glitch is like the badge boost glitch. It can happen even when you don't want it to, are you supposed to reset if it accidentally triggers? That seems a bit much. I say keep it.
Thank you for showing what you have argued FOR YEARS!!! While Swampert has a higher floor, Blaziken has as high or higher ceiling in Emerald in a general playthrough. Bulk Up is just so good. You are amazing !!!!
I'm pretty sure the "trampolines" in Flannery's gym are in fact geysers, i just cannot see anything else that could make sense for a sauna like gym design.
Good to see Swampert finally got the redemption it so direly needed, getting itself the second best time in the tierlist overall! I knew my boy had it in it to get one of the best times. What's surprised me the most was how close Blaziken's and Swampert's times were, despite the fact that Blaziken got an excellent set-up move in bulk up while Swampert got none. Like, let's be objective here and admit the only reason Blaziken got to be a little over a minute? Faster than Swampert was solely because of bulk up. Set up moves are excellent in solo runs, so we already expect pokemon that get them to put on an excellent performance and outperform the others who don't get these same set up moves by a wide margin. Today, the margin between Blaziken and Swampert was so negligible, it just goes to show how excellent Swampert is at running these games despite not having a stat boosting move to help it. We all know if all 3 of them got access to bulk up, two things would've happened: 1- Sceptile would've gotten a far better finish time, and 2- Swampert would've completely crushed Blaziken. And these are the facts. Pd: just as a comparison, to explain what this race felt like: it's like Blaziken was riding a motorbike, giving it a clear advantage (bulk up), while Swampert was just riding on a normal bike, and yet it still managed to finish at almost the same time as Blaziken! Whereas, poor Sceptile was forced to compete with the other two on foot. That's what this felt like.
I love Sceptile but man, picking that thing in a causal playthough is a mistake. (Same with picking Charmander in RBY both of them have to wait way to long to get access to decent same type attack moves)
@bettyunicorn6132 I know, right. It would've been so much better if it got bulk up. Which, now that I think bout it, might not be very useful for Sceptile because it's a special attacker, so it wouldn't benefit much from bulk up, even if it got access to it. It also makes no sense for it to learn calm mind, a move that's very tied to psychic types. Poor Sceptile was at a disadvantage from the beginning.
@@facoulacdragon is resisted by less types than grass so it gives him another stab and it grants it a defensive niche in quad resisting water, electric and grass. With that all of sudden, it hard walls types that more often than not always have a boss fight representing them in every game. Not to mention that grass dragon is cool and epic
@facoulac I think sceptile should have been a dragon grass type Stab dragon would have helped it vs Steven My prediction is BLAZIKEN is the winner 2 reasons one blaziken is the only one who has access to setup 2. Swampert REALLY struggles vs water and ice n grass 3. Swampert has terrible speed meaning it will move second wasting time
Scott, Flannery's gym, they're geysers and puddles you jump into and through. No, it doesnt make logical sense, but the point is its supposed to be above a hot spring because of the nearby volcano.
Paralysis glitch should be done as a last resort, a kind of double team lite. as I feel it is very much cheesy, and far more cheesier than most other glitches.
I agree. Being a glitchfest is a defining characteristic of gen1, so the specific glitches a mon can use as a trait of, for example, its learnset ought to be a factor in the time it gets.
For Abra in Emerald, I think the best approach would be to not catch it, since there's no guarantee or fixed location to get Abra, unlike Gen 2. That said, since you have done a few playthroughs with Abra on critters that needed to grind, the best rule might be to stick to what you've already been doing; catch it if you see it.
I really love your videos! When mentioning the paralysis invincibility glitch I think the reason why people might dislike it is because they believe that it falls under your rule of "major glitches". I know you have since changed it to no glitches outside of battle in generation 1, however I think that many people think that being able to attack without any retaliation is too much of a glitch. That being said fantastic videos!
I respect and appreciate your efforts Scott. Gens 1-3 are my golden era of Pokemon then it just became something I did just cause. Can't wait until you're dabbling in the latter gens. They are a doozy to say the least. Anyway, keep up the phenomenal work.
On the fourteenth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me: The best starter trio Three motherly pokemon The Giants of Gen One A deer and a giraffe The two pink blob matchup The Anubis dog herself A big cuddly boy in Kanto Two Airlane Dragon Pokemon Three Bulky Normal Types The Gen I Middle Stages An OP Eevee in Yellow An OP Pikachu in Yellow A slow level up group ice tree And the slowest hitmon brother
About the Abra problem: I think you should either not allow the use of it at all or force it to be used in every run. The time you want to measure is the finishing time of the respective pokemon and only that pokemon. Catching and using an Abra is an inconsistency which blurrs the results. My personal opinion is that you shouldn't use Abra at all. Oh and thanks for the great videos and the rapid fire this december
Keeping the Abra encounter natural feels balanced, the pokemon most likely to get an Abra are the ones that need training and the time shaved by having an Abra seems like a fair way to compensate this time loss.
Abra adds a ridiculous advantage to runs speeding up time at Dewford island, trips to centers and back tracking. Either every run gets one or none get it in my opinion. Otherwise the data is inconsistent. Just a thought if catching the abra is the problem give the move to whispmer that way every mon gets it for a playthrough.
I think there are 3 options: 1. All runs get one 2. No runs get one 3. Only runs that have signficant wild-grinding prior to Roxanne get one The 3rd option seems fair because some mons, for example Ninjask, realistically spend 30+ minutes running around battling Pokemon. In that case, it seems arbitrarily unfair to prevent Ninjask from getting the Abra. But a Pokemon that does no wild-mon training prior to Roxanne would have to get extremely lucky to find and catch an Abra.
16:40 You also shouldn't have done this because Tentacool can have the ability Liquid Ooze which damages you for using draining moves against them. I don't know if trainer abilities are locked in, but so it might not always be a problem but it's probably for the best not to make a habit of it.
RBY really needs a way to account for healing items. That Metagross damage range is, in practice, worse than you’re communicating due to the Sitrus Berry.
Scott you are an amazing challenge runner and TH-camr the sheer willpower needed to do what you do is insane, please don't be over critical of yourself you are more than great at what you do. Keep that in mind and stay yourself, you made me love playing pokemon again.
Nah, don't force Abra. You made a pretty good case that training on the route is the only reason you'd encounter it. Maybe make the balls better at capturing at most.
"Combusken gains the Fighting Type to help against Roxanne, Marshtomp gains the Ground Type to help against Wattson-" _So Grovyle gains the Grass Type to help against... _*_Juan?_*
This is not necessarily related to thoughts expressed in this video, but that you have expressed in others. I find it very impressive that you get negative comments, can read them, and still continue to make content. I draw and write and i post stuff but i can't even bear to check engagement. (Granted i do it for fun and not to make money, so i do not have the monetary need to monitor and assess and use feedback to make stuff that gets more eyes/watches/clicks.) It just leaves me in a kind of awe. I'm very grateful that the way i make money does not rely on having to endure other people's judgements on my creative output, and i applaud anyone who can endure that.
I don't know what's gonna happen on the follow-ups, but in your first attempt at Glacia with Sceptile you could've subbed again to activate Overgrow and destroyed everything with Leaf Blade.
i love hoenn so much. emerald was my first pokemon game ever & im dedicating my right leg to the generation! ive gotten blaziken and JUST got grovyle done 3 days ago. mudkip is next as a nod to all 3 starters its the ONLY generation where you cant go wrong with your starter (imo) happy holidays, scott!
They did the Sceptile line so wrong. It was the first time that as a child I picked the grass starter and the moveset made it fall apart, especially as a Grovyle in the early to late 20s where I would beat the midgame with Pelipper, Aron/Lairon, Numel/Camerupt and gave Grovyle a exp share and used it again only when it was a Sceptile. It's a really, really bad moveset. It's dead weight from the third to sixth gym. It cant do anything to Magneton, Flannery, doesn't have the damage output for Norman and cant do anything against Winona. Aron/Lairon made especially the 3rd and 5th gym a breeze. It falls only apart against Winona's Altaria with Earthquake and needs some assistance from Pelipper in the 4th but you can't get wrong with a gen 3 Aron
Scott please get some rest. Don't worry about these people. You're the one playing and if you say you feel like there's not much else to optimize in a certain mon, we will accept it because you know what you're talking about. Please try not to stress too much about this kind of comment and focus on taking care of yourself, spending time with your wife and the cats, and playing the way you feel like playing. I can't even imagine the amount of work you put on these videos, especially on daily december. And hearing about people saying this kind of thing makes me think the solorunning community doesn't deserve you.
The order the AI sends their pokemon in after a KO, if they don't have any more super effective moves, depends on the last move their fainted pokemon used. They basically roll that move with all their party pokemon to see who would do the most damage if they used that move against you.
Predicting it before the video starts, I'd say it's gonna be a close race between Swampert and Blaziken, with Sceptile as a distant third. Putting my money on Swampert, though!
Just wanted to say thank you for the uploads Scott, work has been absolutely killer in the christmas season and knowing I can come home to a high quality upload that you've been absolutely acing is such a relief . And had to say that on this video considering my favourite pokemon is one of the runners
17:00 perfect run for sceptile (and 22:47 for blaziken (1:09:16 for the follow up); 28:33 for swampert) ends here, F in the chat Press F to pay respects 1:31:35 and this is why my post like this clocks the first blackout or reset. We can argue semantics and pettiness about perfect runs, however i just see perfect runs as 0 resets and 0 blackouts
Leaf Blade went from 70 to 90... But it Also became a physical move, so sceptile was denied of using it's best stat for a signature move. That might even be the reason why it was buffed too
I don't remember if it's you or one of the other pokemon challenge youtubers out there who suggested it: but with all the quality of life upgrades, I wish Gamefreak would have a little image pop up when pokemon with Blaze/Overgrow etc. when they hit the threshold. I think they would be so much better abilities with that small change
Regarding the Abra encounter, a consideration might also be if the time save in each playthrough will make your life easier as well. If you can simple shave off 10 minutes of overworld movement, each play through will become filled with more battles and become more enjoyable for you (and therefor, the viewer!)
I think actually Leaf Blade would do less damage with Sceptile in Gen IV. Sure it's base 90 power, but it's also a physical move in Gen IV, so I think the lower special attack stat might cancel out the extra base power Edit: After doing a damage calculation against Arceus (because its defensive stats are the same, with base 120 in both) with both Pokemon at level 100, it looks like it does very similar damage either way. Leaf Blade as a base 70 power special move does 67-81 damage, whereas Leaf Blade as a base 90 power physical move does 73-87. So it looks like the increase in base power for Leaf Blade was necessary in order to counter out Sceptile's drop in damage with the move due to the physical/special split. Either way, the move is not significantly better on Sceptile in Gen IV than in Gen III
Regardless of how many runs you do per pokemon im glad you do this your commentary is really soothing and these are really fun to watch especially the finale of Emerald of this year btw where is Ludicolo on the tier list i know you did a second run on stream with it
The design philosophy of fire/fighting probably also has to do with how annoying fighting 500 geodudes in every cave is due to all the hikers. Fire/psychic and fire/dark also give you a nice bypass to that type of slog.
Swampert has more deep mathematical optimizations still possible. If you look at standard speedruns you see the value of taking the risk of not healing too much and just rely on torrent surf on smart hp.
It seems Swampert's main advantage is not needing to stop to train for Wattson. Makes me wonder if any Water-Type with a good Mud or Fighting Move will do well.
1:02:30 the algorithm by which the AI choses which pokemon to send in next is quite strange but completely predictable and you can should be able to use this to your advantage. I might actually be a little bit off but it's something like this: Step 1. It checks whether any of its pokemon has a super effective move. If no, go to step 2. If one pokemon exists, send it out. If more than one pokemon exists, go to step 1a) a) for all pokemon that have a super effective, compare the type of the AI pokemon to the player pokemon. If either is a single typed pokemon, consider its secondary type equal to its primary type. Multiply the type effective of the player pokemon types against the AI pokemon types. The pokemon with the highest type effectiveness is sent out. Note: this means that the pokemon with the WORST defensive match up gets sent out first, but only in the case where both have a super effective move. b) in case of equal score from step 1a, send out in party order. Step 2. If no pokemon has a super effective move, check whether any pokemon in AI party has a move of the same type as the pokemon that just fainted. If no, go to step 3. If yes, use logic from step 1a and 1b. Step 3. Send out next pokemon in party order. In the case at 1:02:30, Step 2 triggered Metagross to come out as it has Meteor Mash and the last pokemon that fainted was a Skarmory. No pokemon had a super effective move, so the "Skarmory's STAB-move" rule caused Metagross to come out next. If Aggron would have had Iron Tail, that would have come out next.
Wonderful video, as always. One of my favorites, up there with the eeveelution video. If ice beam costs 45 seconds, I wonder if picking it up from the game corner for Swampert is potentially faster? Running straight to Mauville City, picking up the coin case, and purchasing the tm that way might save inputs overall. Either way, loved seeing how you performed with the starters.
Gen 3 ai chooses mons like this: 1. Which mon has the strongest super-effective move? 2. Who is the weakest pokemon with super-effective move against the pokemon they are facing? 3. Does this pokemon share typings on any of the moves with the pokemon that just fainted? I recommend watching Pokemon challenges' Emerald kaizo video for the clear explanation.
I think giving blaziken overheat would be a decent idea. Yeah, fighting types moves use its better stat, but sometimes you need just one big special damage against specific mons
Gen 3 wasn't overly kind to grass which is funny as the game focuses on its 2 main strengths, ground and water. Game Freak seemed scared to make grass good in game after gen 1 and seemed to focus on making it struggle to do anything other then sleep/status support.
Since not every Pokemon is forced to train before Roxanne but every Pokemon IS forced to go through Granite Cave, could you just stop using Repels in Granite Cave and hope for Abra there? I know it might inflate every Pokemon's time just a bit with running from encounters, but it could be a way to make Abra encounter luck more fair across runs. Re: your Emerald play, I've loved seeing the progress you've been making! It's a complex game, and given how many games you play, you can for sure give yourself a pat on the back with how much you've improved.
I've only just thought of this while watching, I feel like it would be really cool if possible to back port megas in to pokemon yellow! I'd love to see how a mega sceptile would do there as well as the other two Also just as a side note whe ever you sat down to play these attempts where you just like "huh i can boot up a normal game or emerald" because you don't have to code in a different starter?
i did want to say one thing about scott running a different number of runs on different Pokemon and it being "unfair" of course it is life isn't fair and doing the same number of runs would also be unfair because then they would have vastly different levels of TIME committed to each. there simply isnt an option that will satisfy everyone he has explained he budgets time for pokemon this does not allow for the same number of playthroughs everytime and thats all there is to it. sorry you gotta deal with those frustrations my dude i love your content i find them both relaxing and interesting i can watch them anytime for fun or fall asleep to them very easily (like my white noise) happy to [provide you the watch time while im snoozing when i do XD
Maybe a small improvement for the overlay. Some moves are not available until the post-game, but I don't know which, maybe that could be indicated. Good quality video though😊
I’m going to say again, you should really code your overlay to celebrate when you’re in Torrent/Blaze/Overgrow range. Particle effects, adjusted power on the move tiles, whatever. Gamefreak has done an absolutely abysmal job letting us know when it’s working, but you don’t have to suffer for that. I understand coding isn’t free, but this would be good for, eventually, up to like 100 different Pokémon. At least 30 even just in Emerald, if you include the bugs with Swarm.
I remember using Bide (level 15 on Swampert) to deal with the pre-Wattson Rival when playing it as a child you NEED to get lucky though (moving first and using Bide) otherwise two absorbs just KO Marshtomp around level25 might be a bit different with Swampert, but imagine the premise is the same (x4 damage from Grovyle, need to outspeed to get the double, and you're avoiding a crit) the rest of the team is pretty easy after that
44:54 - Blaziken is a fantastic pokemon to solo run, I want to see how it does in Platinum uhhh... with WHAT against Fantina? Peck? the most likely options for Ghosts are available AFTER her (HiddenPower is Veilstone, and ShadowClaw SHE gives you) Guess setup is likely an option given that Monferno was Level28 (when Blaziken learns BulkUp) in the original run, but suspect you're probably going to be skipping trainers and be less than that
Abra is interesting as it has a very unique effect to the games did u know if u catch an abra at near rustboro city what u do is not heal at rustboro only heal at petal berg once u finish getting the poke nav u can teleport back to petalberg and go to briney but that when u discover something unique
IMO, the Gen 1 Dig Paralysis glitch should be banned for the same reason that you still ban evasion-boosting moves in later gens even though they lack the badge boost glitch. It’s somehow both reliable enough to not feel like a well-calculated risk AND luck-based enough to feel like mindless fishing. Most importantly, it’s just kinda boring.
You show confusion at how the switch AI works at 1:01:36 so I figure I should explain it. As you said, it first runs a check across all Pokémon to determine if any of them have super effective damage. If none of them do, then it tries to check for a Pokémon with STAB moves that are neutral against your Pokémon, which makes sense. The problem is that it calculates this for the Pokémon that just fainted, not the one that's gonna be sent out. So for this example, Claydol gets sent out because it has a rock move, which would be a stab move neutral against Sceptile if it was used by Armaldo. Then, Metagross gets sent out because it has Psychic, which would be a stab move neutral against Sceptile if used by Claydol. Then in a later attempt, Skarmory faints and he sents out Metagross as his third Pokémon because it sees that Meteor Mash is a stab move that would be neutral against Sceptile. This probably isn't too useful to know for solo runs, but it's cool knowledge to have.
14:03 not a kid since i was almost an adult when RS came out (and 18 when FRLG dropped and 19 when E dropped), however... i chose treeko... twice. And then i wised up and picked mudkip and then i was like DAAAAAAAMN its evolutions can tear up wattson..
Sceptile can't one-shot a water type 20 levels lower than itself with a critical hit on a stab leaf blade. The developers really didn't like that mon... 😢
Go my beloved Fire Chicken god. Fly free and burn all before you. Show the fools your ….. wait no fire moves. Uhh show them you mighty chicken kicking legs and the meaning of kickin spices.
Yo, please don't worry about the "equal playthroughs with every Pokemon" stuff. Please just don't skip meals, sleep or time with your wife. It doesn't help anyone if you get sick or get burnout.
Exactly, it's never worth sacrificing your body & lifestyle for work, I can't even imagine doing all that just so I can be more of a people pleaser for strangers than my own lifestyle
I demand he sacrifices health and relationships and his third born for MY ENTERTAINMENT!!!! /s, completely agree with you , if he takes care of himself we'll all still be here even if it's a playthrough or two less
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Oh, right, so I can feed The Algorithm[TM] with this comment.
The best comment in this entire section.
Scott, Your well being and time with your family are always more important than some person that’s butthurt on the internet. I think anyone that’s worth listening to sees the amount of effort and care you put into these videos. You’re a person with a life and not a content making machine. You could do a 100 hundred runs with each Pokemon and I am confident that someone would find something to complain about. Please don’t take those negative comments to heart.
Don't let the vocal minority get you down with how you're doing these playthroughs! What you're doing is amazing. And as others have said make sure you're finding a healthy work-life balance!
As for you asking for feedback about glitches and rules, I think the dig/paralysis glitch is like the badge boost glitch. It can happen even when you don't want it to, are you supposed to reset if it accidentally triggers? That seems a bit much. I say keep it.
Youre doing great scotty. This has been a great daily December so far. Don't let the negative minority comments get you down
Thank you for showing what you have argued FOR YEARS!!! While Swampert has a higher floor, Blaziken has as high or higher ceiling in Emerald in a general playthrough. Bulk Up is just so good. You are amazing !!!!
I'm pretty sure the "trampolines" in Flannery's gym are in fact geysers, i just cannot see anything else that could make sense for a sauna like gym design.
In a place where it's only tourist attraction is their hot springs
Good to see Swampert finally got the redemption it so direly needed, getting itself the second best time in the tierlist overall! I knew my boy had it in it to get one of the best times.
What's surprised me the most was how close Blaziken's and Swampert's times were, despite the fact that Blaziken got an excellent set-up move in bulk up while Swampert got none. Like, let's be objective here and admit the only reason Blaziken got to be a little over a minute? Faster than Swampert was solely because of bulk up. Set up moves are excellent in solo runs, so we already expect pokemon that get them to put on an excellent performance and outperform the others who don't get these same set up moves by a wide margin. Today, the margin between Blaziken and Swampert was so negligible, it just goes to show how excellent Swampert is at running these games despite not having a stat boosting move to help it.
We all know if all 3 of them got access to bulk up, two things would've happened: 1- Sceptile would've gotten a far better finish time, and 2- Swampert would've completely crushed Blaziken. And these are the facts.
Pd: just as a comparison, to explain what this race felt like: it's like Blaziken was riding a motorbike, giving it a clear advantage (bulk up), while Swampert was just riding on a normal bike, and yet it still managed to finish at almost the same time as Blaziken! Whereas, poor Sceptile was forced to compete with the other two on foot. That's what this felt like.
I love Sceptile but man, picking that thing in a causal playthough is a mistake. (Same with picking Charmander in RBY both of them have to wait way to long to get access to decent same type attack moves)
@bettyunicorn6132 I know, right. It would've been so much better if it got bulk up. Which, now that I think bout it, might not be very useful for Sceptile because it's a special attacker, so it wouldn't benefit much from bulk up, even if it got access to it. It also makes no sense for it to learn calm mind, a move that's very tied to psychic types. Poor Sceptile was at a disadvantage from the beginning.
It’s criminal how short handed Sceptiles moveset was in these games. Wish he got a dragon type pre mega evolution
how does it benefit him though? stab dragon claw and neutral to fire, but becomes x4 weak to ice and weak to dragon attacks
@@facoulacdragon is resisted by less types than grass so it gives him another stab and it grants it a defensive niche in quad resisting water, electric and grass. With that all of sudden, it hard walls types that more often than not always have a boss fight representing them in every game.
Not to mention that grass dragon is cool and epic
@@LitPasta Also the flapple line was very underwhelming in design. Turning into a flat out pie reeks of normal typing shenanigens not grass.
@facoulac I think sceptile should have been a dragon grass type
Stab dragon would have helped it vs Steven
My prediction is BLAZIKEN is the winner
2 reasons one blaziken is the only one who has access to setup
2. Swampert REALLY struggles vs water and ice n grass
3. Swampert has terrible speed meaning it will move second wasting time
Scott, Flannery's gym, they're geysers and puddles you jump into and through. No, it doesnt make logical sense, but the point is its supposed to be above a hot spring because of the nearby volcano.
I have the same opinion. The gym is build at a hot spring spa. It also explains alle the steam in the gym.
Finally swampert will get the redemption it deserves. No way it should be surge tier
Exactly. Considering it can defeat quite a few gyms and steven stone and especially freaking WATTSON UGH
Paralysis glitch should be done as a last resort, a kind of double team lite. as I feel it is very much cheesy, and far more cheesier than most other glitches.
Unless something goes really wrong it should be Swampert >>> Blaziken >>>>> Sceptile.
More like Blaziken > Swampert >>> Sceptile
Ludicolo
Bulk Up > Surf/IceBeam/Earthquake > Leaf Blade
I think the dig paralysis glitch is fine. You've said before that in-battle glitches are allowed
I agree. Being a glitchfest is a defining characteristic of gen1, so the specific glitches a mon can use as a trait of, for example, its learnset ought to be a factor in the time it gets.
For Abra in Emerald, I think the best approach would be to not catch it, since there's no guarantee or fixed location to get Abra, unlike Gen 2.
That said, since you have done a few playthroughs with Abra on critters that needed to grind, the best rule might be to stick to what you've already been doing; catch it if you see it.
yea, don't worry about playing each one the same amount of times, some Pokemon just take more runs to optimize than others
I really love your videos! When mentioning the paralysis invincibility glitch I think the reason why people might dislike it is because they believe that it falls under your rule of "major glitches". I know you have since changed it to no glitches outside of battle in generation 1, however I think that many people think that being able to attack without any retaliation is too much of a glitch. That being said fantastic videos!
I respect and appreciate your efforts Scott. Gens 1-3 are my golden era of Pokemon then it just became something I did just cause. Can't wait until you're dabbling in the latter gens. They are a doozy to say the least. Anyway, keep up the phenomenal work.
It’s great to see how far you’ve come with your Emerald play with the three starters!
Sceptile won in my heart :)
On the fourteenth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me:
The best starter trio
Three motherly pokemon
The Giants of Gen One
A deer and a giraffe
The two pink blob matchup
The Anubis dog herself
A big cuddly boy in Kanto
Two Airlane Dragon Pokemon
Three Bulky Normal Types
The Gen I Middle Stages
An OP Eevee in Yellow
An OP Pikachu in Yellow
A slow level up group ice tree
And the slowest hitmon brother
About the Abra problem: I think you should either not allow the use of it at all or force it to be used in every run. The time you want to measure is the finishing time of the respective pokemon and only that pokemon. Catching and using an Abra is an inconsistency which blurrs the results. My personal opinion is that you shouldn't use Abra at all.
Oh and thanks for the great videos and the rapid fire this december
imo it's a little offset for Pokemon bad against Roxanne, but any Pokemon that can beat Roxanne easily shouldn't have it, ever.
This is nostalgic for me, since the og videos for these were around the time I discovered your channel. Excited to see how you improve things!
Keeping the Abra encounter natural feels balanced, the pokemon most likely to get an Abra are the ones that need training and the time shaved by having an Abra seems like a fair way to compensate this time loss.
Abra adds a ridiculous advantage to runs speeding up time at Dewford island, trips to centers and back tracking. Either every run gets one or none get it in my opinion. Otherwise the data is inconsistent. Just a thought if catching the abra is the problem give the move to whispmer that way every mon gets it for a playthrough.
I think there are 3 options:
1. All runs get one
2. No runs get one
3. Only runs that have signficant wild-grinding prior to Roxanne get one
The 3rd option seems fair because some mons, for example Ninjask, realistically spend 30+ minutes running around battling Pokemon. In that case, it seems arbitrarily unfair to prevent Ninjask from getting the Abra. But a Pokemon that does no wild-mon training prior to Roxanne would have to get extremely lucky to find and catch an Abra.
16:40 You also shouldn't have done this because Tentacool can have the ability Liquid Ooze which damages you for using draining moves against them.
I don't know if trainer abilities are locked in, but so it might not always be a problem but it's probably for the best not to make a habit of it.
RBY really needs a way to account for healing items. That Metagross damage range is, in practice, worse than you’re communicating due to the Sitrus Berry.
Scott you are an amazing challenge runner and TH-camr the sheer willpower needed to do what you do is insane, please don't be over critical of yourself you are more than great at what you do. Keep that in mind and stay yourself, you made me love playing pokemon again.
It sucks that every starter becomes more resistant to a type that they were weak to except Sceptile
5th versus video in a row. Bringing the heat! 🔥🔥
Nah, don't force Abra. You made a pretty good case that training on the route is the only reason you'd encounter it. Maybe make the balls better at capturing at most.
Swampert's redemption arc.
"Combusken gains the Fighting Type to help against Roxanne, Marshtomp gains the Ground Type to help against Wattson-"
_So Grovyle gains the Grass Type to help against... _*_Juan?_*
Honorary dragon status so it can use Dragon Claw against Drake - I guess!
What a glow up. I'm genuinely curious to go back and watch that old swampert video and figure out what you were doing for a full 2 hours lol.
This is not necessarily related to thoughts expressed in this video, but that you have expressed in others. I find it very impressive that you get negative comments, can read them, and still continue to make content. I draw and write and i post stuff but i can't even bear to check engagement. (Granted i do it for fun and not to make money, so i do not have the monetary need to monitor and assess and use feedback to make stuff that gets more eyes/watches/clicks.) It just leaves me in a kind of awe. I'm very grateful that the way i make money does not rely on having to endure other people's judgements on my creative output, and i applaud anyone who can endure that.
I don't know what's gonna happen on the follow-ups, but in your first attempt at Glacia with Sceptile you could've subbed again to activate Overgrow and destroyed everything with Leaf Blade.
i love hoenn so much. emerald was my first pokemon game ever & im dedicating my right leg to the generation! ive gotten blaziken and JUST got grovyle done 3 days ago. mudkip is next as a nod to all 3 starters
its the ONLY generation where you cant go wrong with your starter (imo)
happy holidays, scott!
They did the Sceptile line so wrong. It was the first time that as a child I picked the grass starter and the moveset made it fall apart, especially as a Grovyle in the early to late 20s where I would beat the midgame with Pelipper, Aron/Lairon, Numel/Camerupt and gave Grovyle a exp share and used it again only when it was a Sceptile. It's a really, really bad moveset. It's dead weight from the third to sixth gym. It cant do anything to Magneton, Flannery, doesn't have the damage output for Norman and cant do anything against Winona. Aron/Lairon made especially the 3rd and 5th gym a breeze. It falls only apart against Winona's Altaria with Earthquake and needs some assistance from Pelipper in the 4th but you can't get wrong with a gen 3 Aron
Scott please get some rest. Don't worry about these people. You're the one playing and if you say you feel like there's not much else to optimize in a certain mon, we will accept it because you know what you're talking about. Please try not to stress too much about this kind of comment and focus on taking care of yourself, spending time with your wife and the cats, and playing the way you feel like playing.
I can't even imagine the amount of work you put on these videos, especially on daily december. And hearing about people saying this kind of thing makes me think the solorunning community doesn't deserve you.
The order the AI sends their pokemon in after a KO, if they don't have any more super effective moves, depends on the last move their fainted pokemon used. They basically roll that move with all their party pokemon to see who would do the most damage if they used that move against you.
Predicting it before the video starts, I'd say it's gonna be a close race between Swampert and Blaziken, with Sceptile as a distant third. Putting my money on Swampert, though!
Just wanted to say thank you for the uploads Scott, work has been absolutely killer in the christmas season and knowing I can come home to a high quality upload that you've been absolutely acing is such a relief . And had to say that on this video considering my favourite pokemon is one of the runners
the trumpets in the Gen 3 OST are truly something else, the vives are never wrong with the trumpets
Wait, of all times to go with a speed lowering nature, you don't take it for Sceptile?
17:00 perfect run for sceptile (and 22:47 for blaziken (1:09:16 for the follow up); 28:33 for swampert) ends here, F in the chat Press F to pay respects
1:31:35 and this is why my post like this clocks the first blackout or reset. We can argue semantics and pettiness about perfect runs, however i just see perfect runs as 0 resets and 0 blackouts
Real nice improvements from a year ago! I like watching these runs getting better and better.
Leaf Blade went from 70 to 90... But it Also became a physical move, so sceptile was denied of using it's best stat for a signature move. That might even be the reason why it was buffed too
I don't remember if it's you or one of the other pokemon challenge youtubers out there who suggested it: but with all the quality of life upgrades, I wish Gamefreak would have a little image pop up when pokemon with Blaze/Overgrow etc. when they hit the threshold. I think they would be so much better abilities with that small change
Yeah it’s super annoying that even in gen 9 those abilities are entirely invisible
Regarding the Abra encounter, a consideration might also be if the time save in each playthrough will make your life easier as well. If you can simple shave off 10 minutes of overworld movement, each play through will become filled with more battles and become more enjoyable for you (and therefor, the viewer!)
Swampert, my beloved
Double kick does more damage than peck because of stab :)
I know it’s probably pure coincidence, but in light of yesterday, I’m really happy to see a gen 3 video today. Thank you so much
I remember Sceptile being quite the train wreck, can't wait to see how it does now!
Love your vids dude! I always put them on whenever I'm doing homework or some other menial task and it really does help to get through it!
Blaziken is my favorite Pokémon, so it's exciting to see it do so well! I look forward to seeing it played in other games, too. :D -T.
8:51 seeing double kick say “hit 1 time(s)” feels so wrong
Swampert cleans house here I'm sure 😂
Blaziken really showed why he's my favorite starter
I think actually Leaf Blade would do less damage with Sceptile in Gen IV. Sure it's base 90 power, but it's also a physical move in Gen IV, so I think the lower special attack stat might cancel out the extra base power
Edit: After doing a damage calculation against Arceus (because its defensive stats are the same, with base 120 in both) with both Pokemon at level 100, it looks like it does very similar damage either way. Leaf Blade as a base 70 power special move does 67-81 damage, whereas Leaf Blade as a base 90 power physical move does 73-87. So it looks like the increase in base power for Leaf Blade was necessary in order to counter out Sceptile's drop in damage with the move due to the physical/special split. Either way, the move is not significantly better on Sceptile in Gen IV than in Gen III
A small question. Did the calculator consider sitrus berry's recovery? Because if it didn't then no wonder why Steven stone was so inconsistent.
That’s exactly what I said. There’s a reason competitive players taking healing into consideration when calculating damage ranges.
Blaziken was my first ever solo run waaaay back in the old days of GBA and Gameshark. Probably my favorite starter pokemon.
Regarding rules, I agree with you. Don’t over complicate things
Regardless of how many runs you do per pokemon im glad you do this your commentary is really soothing and these are really fun to watch especially the finale of Emerald of this year btw where is Ludicolo on the tier list i know you did a second run on stream with it
Why didn't you reduce speed through nature this time
The design philosophy of fire/fighting probably also has to do with how annoying fighting 500 geodudes in every cave is due to all the hikers. Fire/psychic and fire/dark also give you a nice bypass to that type of slog.
Swampert has more deep mathematical optimizations still possible.
If you look at standard speedruns you see the value of taking the risk of not healing too much and just rely on torrent surf on smart hp.
Uploaded 45 seconds ago... excited for this one!
It seems Swampert's main advantage is not needing to stop to train for Wattson. Makes me wonder if any Water-Type with a good Mud or Fighting Move will do well.
1:02:30 the algorithm by which the AI choses which pokemon to send in next is quite strange but completely predictable and you can should be able to use this to your advantage. I might actually be a little bit off but it's something like this:
Step 1. It checks whether any of its pokemon has a super effective move. If no, go to step 2. If one pokemon exists, send it out. If more than one pokemon exists, go to step 1a)
a) for all pokemon that have a super effective, compare the type of the AI pokemon to the player pokemon. If either is a single typed pokemon, consider its secondary type equal to its primary type. Multiply the type effective of the player pokemon types against the AI pokemon types. The pokemon with the highest type effectiveness is sent out. Note: this means that the pokemon with the WORST defensive match up gets sent out first, but only in the case where both have a super effective move.
b) in case of equal score from step 1a, send out in party order.
Step 2. If no pokemon has a super effective move, check whether any pokemon in AI party has a move of the same type as the pokemon that just fainted. If no, go to step 3. If yes, use logic from step 1a and 1b.
Step 3. Send out next pokemon in party order.
In the case at 1:02:30, Step 2 triggered Metagross to come out as it has Meteor Mash and the last pokemon that fainted was a Skarmory. No pokemon had a super effective move, so the "Skarmory's STAB-move" rule caused Metagross to come out next. If Aggron would have had Iron Tail, that would have come out next.
Now it’s time for Quagsire vs Whiscash, to give the two budget Swamperts a chance to show what they can do.
Wonderful video, as always. One of my favorites, up there with the eeveelution video. If ice beam costs 45 seconds, I wonder if picking it up from the game corner for Swampert is potentially faster? Running straight to Mauville City, picking up the coin case, and purchasing the tm that way might save inputs overall. Either way, loved seeing how you performed with the starters.
Ive been waiting for this revisit
Gen 3 ai chooses mons like this:
1. Which mon has the strongest super-effective move?
2. Who is the weakest pokemon with super-effective move against the pokemon they are facing?
3. Does this pokemon share typings on any of the moves with the pokemon that just fainted?
I recommend watching Pokemon challenges' Emerald kaizo video for the clear explanation.
Thanks for all the content Scott and Team
Excellent video as always =)
I think giving blaziken overheat would be a decent idea. Yeah, fighting types moves use its better stat, but sometimes you need just one big special damage against specific mons
Gen 3 wasn't overly kind to grass which is funny as the game focuses on its 2 main strengths, ground and water.
Game Freak seemed scared to make grass good in game after gen 1 and seemed to focus on making it struggle to do anything other then sleep/status support.
Since not every Pokemon is forced to train before Roxanne but every Pokemon IS forced to go through Granite Cave, could you just stop using Repels in Granite Cave and hope for Abra there? I know it might inflate every Pokemon's time just a bit with running from encounters, but it could be a way to make Abra encounter luck more fair across runs.
Re: your Emerald play, I've loved seeing the progress you've been making! It's a complex game, and given how many games you play, you can for sure give yourself a pat on the back with how much you've improved.
I've only just thought of this while watching, I feel like it would be really cool if possible to back port megas in to pokemon yellow! I'd love to see how a mega sceptile would do there as well as the other two
Also just as a side note whe ever you sat down to play these attempts where you just like "huh i can boot up a normal game or emerald" because you don't have to code in a different starter?
Flannery's gym uses lava eruptions to toss you to the top and you drop through the openings
i did want to say one thing about scott running a different number of runs on different Pokemon and it being "unfair" of course it is life isn't fair and doing the same number of runs would also be unfair because then they would have vastly different levels of TIME committed to each. there simply isnt an option that will satisfy everyone he has explained he budgets time for pokemon this does not allow for the same number of playthroughs everytime and thats all there is to it. sorry you gotta deal with those frustrations my dude i love your content i find them both relaxing and interesting i can watch them anytime for fun or fall asleep to them very easily (like my white noise) happy to [provide you the watch time while im snoozing when i do XD
I know Swampert will prolly win but Blaziken is my favorite
You’re the man, Scott
Maybe a small improvement for the overlay. Some moves are not available until the post-game, but I don't know which, maybe that could be indicated. Good quality video though😊
I’m going to say again, you should really code your overlay to celebrate when you’re in Torrent/Blaze/Overgrow range. Particle effects, adjusted power on the move tiles, whatever. Gamefreak has done an absolutely abysmal job letting us know when it’s working, but you don’t have to suffer for that. I understand coding isn’t free, but this would be good for, eventually, up to like 100 different Pokémon. At least 30 even just in Emerald, if you include the bugs with Swarm.
Yes. Blaziken is my favorite
I love the hoenn starters and here's hoping Swampert gets it's redemption
1:29:44 Even this rebalanced tier list will look so very different, once Scott starts to run at least a few first stage Pokemon.
Yo man you are an amazing content creator. Though please dont let these videos eat up time from your personal life.
I remember using Bide (level 15 on Swampert) to deal with the pre-Wattson Rival when playing it as a child
you NEED to get lucky though (moving first and using Bide) otherwise two absorbs just KO Marshtomp around level25
might be a bit different with Swampert, but imagine the premise is the same (x4 damage from Grovyle, need to outspeed to get the double, and you're avoiding a crit)
the rest of the team is pretty easy after that
44:54 - Blaziken is a fantastic pokemon to solo run, I want to see how it does in Platinum
uhhh... with WHAT against Fantina? Peck?
the most likely options for Ghosts are available AFTER her (HiddenPower is Veilstone, and ShadowClaw SHE gives you)
Guess setup is likely an option given that Monferno was Level28 (when Blaziken learns BulkUp) in the original run, but suspect you're probably going to be skipping trainers and be less than that
So excited for this video
Just in time for Emerald Legacy!
About half way thru video your doing he right thing with Blaziken on the speed side and the HP type while odd makes sense same with Sceptile
Abra is interesting as it has a very unique effect to the games did u know if u catch an abra at near rustboro city what u do is not heal at rustboro only heal at petal berg once u finish getting the poke nav u can teleport back to petalberg and go to briney but that when u discover something unique
IMO, the Gen 1 Dig Paralysis glitch should be banned for the same reason that you still ban evasion-boosting moves in later gens even though they lack the badge boost glitch. It’s somehow both reliable enough to not feel like a well-calculated risk AND luck-based enough to feel like mindless fishing. Most importantly, it’s just kinda boring.
You show confusion at how the switch AI works at 1:01:36 so I figure I should explain it. As you said, it first runs a check across all Pokémon to determine if any of them have super effective damage. If none of them do, then it tries to check for a Pokémon with STAB moves that are neutral against your Pokémon, which makes sense. The problem is that it calculates this for the Pokémon that just fainted, not the one that's gonna be sent out. So for this example, Claydol gets sent out because it has a rock move, which would be a stab move neutral against Sceptile if it was used by Armaldo. Then, Metagross gets sent out because it has Psychic, which would be a stab move neutral against Sceptile if used by Claydol. Then in a later attempt, Skarmory faints and he sents out Metagross as his third Pokémon because it sees that Meteor Mash is a stab move that would be neutral against Sceptile. This probably isn't too useful to know for solo runs, but it's cool knowledge to have.
Blaziken is the only pokemon i ever solo ran in emerald and yup i loved it too
14:03 not a kid since i was almost an adult when RS came out (and 18 when FRLG dropped and 19 when E dropped), however... i chose treeko... twice.
And then i wised up and picked mudkip and then i was like DAAAAAAAMN its evolutions can tear up wattson..
I’m normally never this late to a Scott post ( posted 3 minutes ago)
Here within the first 12 seconds I love you content
Sceptile can't one-shot a water type 20 levels lower than itself with a critical hit on a stab leaf blade. The developers really didn't like that mon... 😢
I accidentally ended up (essentially) doing a Blaziken solo run my first time playing Ruby. There are a LOT of Pokemon weak to fighting in this game.
Go my beloved Fire Chicken god. Fly free and burn all before you. Show the fools your ….. wait no fire moves. Uhh show them you mighty chicken kicking legs and the meaning of kickin spices.