As long as you have drawers, you can always keep one standard packout box on top because you don’t have to take it off the drawers to get to anything below.
The drawers leak, which is a problem if you have to deal with intermittent rain or weather. I also still really like the clear top storage units because the screws don't get mixed up when they fall over. You also don't have to carry them with two hands and flat.
They need to make drawers with a gasket around them like tough system, but ts doesn't lock. Also they need something like the tstak Dolly so you can put whatever box you want on the bottom and still do stairs/rough terrain. I was able to make my tstak drawers waterproof by installing my own gaskets around them, but if that leaks it's going to suck for me. And I can't lock them so I'm hesitant to leave them outside anyways
@@NonieTools Toughsystem actually has a heavy-duty hand truck with the wall-mounting arms, so you can mount toolboxes on it and roll them around and get to any box on it without unstacking any except the one you need.
Less is more! I almost got sucked into all this Milwaukee organizing! My great grandfather built houses with one toolbox that he could cary. I now run a one man construction company out of a Ford Ranger and I do it all. The point is to learn how to use what you have and be prepared for the next day! It’s ez to get in the habit of towing the shop around but planning is key to being a profitable minimal contractor!
Imagine how many tradesmen waste a lot of gas by hauling a truck or van around with almost all their tools & equipment. All it takes is 5-10 minutes of thinking through what you need for the day on a job
@@JudgeBuster Ya until you forget that one tool and you waste an hour to either go buy it again at a local hardware store or race back home to pick it up. Do that a few times and you'll wish you always had everything on hand and then some extra.
Look for a horse stall mat for the bed of your truck. The great thing about those is that nothing slides around on them. The bad thing about them is when you are standing there with your tailgate down, & your toolbox is at the far end of your truck bed nothing slides towards you easily. But you can cut them to fit your setup & work flow. I hope this helps.
I wouldn't say the Packout tooboxes are entirely obsolete, I find them useful for holding my nailers / circular saws / sawzall etc. The drawers are amazing though, I have mine on the dolly base with the M18 shop vac / 15" tool bag on top and it's absolutely amazing
@@mr.smitty1993 can he not make space for it in his garage? It doesn't necessarily have to be a large trailer just enough were he can organize everything pretty easily.
Ego to the side. " You really should really consider, getting a VAN ". Best decision that transition that I ever made. It's like a mini workshop on wheels, with drawls everywhere & you can stand up in it. Also you can transport MDF & Ladders & a Wheel Trolley hassle free. Plus it's discreet, no-one can see inside the van, so less likely to break in plus nothing is outside in the rain.
I have tried to justify buying a pickup truck for my business and everytime I just can’t do it because my cargo van does everything better than a truck can. The only exception is I can’t fit my family in a cargo van.
I have the old style and plan to add drawers. I see value in both styles. I like the idea of pulling a single case and taking it to tight places where I can't take drawers. A covered case in standard, low profile or half size provides many options when you need the content of a whole drawer in the attic.
Thanks for the info! Very useful. With reference to leaving the boxes unsecured in the backseat, think about having to make a slam stop. Even if they're only one box tall, you've got a potential heavy projectile coming for your back in the best case, and it there's a bump, it could bounce up and hit the back of your head. I wouldn't want to count on the headrest being enough to protect me. Your head could be moving backwards in a collision while the box is moving forward with a lot of energy. Too many ways that can go wrong. I would want them all well secured.
@@FinishCarpentryTV I bet if you engraved them or something with "Official Finish Carpentry TV gear" or something like that and sent a certificate as a collectable, you could probably break even or turn a profit. Could even auction them off for a local charity (like people still hurting from the winter).
I would say both designs are best for certain jobs. A lot of projects I'm on im running circuits at up to 5 different locations a day and those smaller packout boxes are a life saver for holding all my connectors, red heads, and fasteners. I wouldn't want to tote around those shelves in and out into my job 5+ times a day.
I know this is old, but they’re still not bad as dedicated tool boxes to keep the garage/ shop organized. Like one per box, and tools you don’t use on the daily. For me it would be the nailer, sawzall, skillsaw, a few other stuff
I think your crazy for working out of a pickup bed but it’s awesome to see it work for you. I would love to see you build a trailer or van like some of the other guys on TH-cam have done. Love your work and videos!
Hahaha, DeWalt has had the Tstak drawers for years. They do an awesome job, don't cost a whole lot and are durable. I've been just using them for years.
I think festool and bosch were the only two doing this till now. Both very costly. I run the rigid system. I like them. Short falls yes. Two complaints i had of the milw was the compartment size and cost. I only require a short stack of boxes for my work so drawers not necessary, but may be an upgrade in the future. Would like to see one of these with a better solution to stairs. Curious how long before the wheels fall of my rigid.
Buy a two seater transit or a sprinter Long Body. You can still haul lumber with you door open and that hitch extender you use with the truck. Ladders can still go on top. You are inadvertently converting your truck into a van. Cut your losses and skip to the van. It's painful to watching you slowly coming to this conclusion.
@@FinishCarpentryTV I drive the high roof nissan nv2500. You are right about the wind. I've had to pull off the freeway in the Palm Springs area several times because of wind. Had trouble keeping it in my lane.
😂 this comment is stupid, after all the the thought he puts into his work and tool organization, don’t you think he’s thought about a van or had one before? This man knows what he’s doing and knows what he wants
@@FinishCarpentryTV Makes total sense. But I thought you had a passenger van for the fam and not work. Nothing like stepping into the van and being able to stand and reach into a shelf instead of being a gymnast while getting tools. You are right. They don't have much power. You could put a hellephant engine in a sprinter, use it for work on the wk days and drag racing on the wkend. Love the vids.👍
Surprisingly decent quality:, HART has a nice portable 22" cantilever box with dividers top & bottom $20. Also, Craftsman has a 3 level Cantilever 80lb capacity w wheels @ Lowes on sale $79. I use for my PA equipment, inverter, mics, cords, etc. The system you got w drawers is rad. The cart with a pullout extension work great for your extra boxes. They might have a weight limit. There's also truck bed false floor toolboxes with pullout drawers for tools. Nobody knows tools are under the fake floor base. Great video.
I use the packout and trolley for my power tools. When I work I just unclip the lot . Then when I'm done stack them back up. I do want draws though but I'd make a separate stack. So wrenches, spanners, screw drivers, hex , screws.nuts bolts etc
You've got to get a van! I make and fit windows/doors and had a land rover defender pick up truck for a few years (my dream wagon) and loved it! I made it work like you're doing and bought a trailer for it. It broke down and I hired a van for a week, WHAT A REVELATION!!! Ended up getting a ford transit custom and wow it makes my life so much easier, and is like driving a car. Trucks are cool but impractical. No more having to tie things on the roof or getting sheets wet in transit.
love having my promaster, it is decked out with shelving and tools. i love it when i open the back or side door and people walk by. Every time they are impressed by the custom shelves and all the organization.
Yup, I just bought 4 dewalt single tstak drawers and it’s the a game changer, everything is organized now except for my sawzaw, circularsaw but will get a deep storage dewalt tstak
Yup, every time I finish up a job and start packing my stuff up it ALWAYS happens that I find a screwdriver or a pack of bits that I now have to disconnect all of my boxes to get to the one where they go. So frustrating. Gonna have some of these for sure.
I'm new to packout. I have the wheeling box, 2 large boxes, a small box and a crate. Unless I have to get something in the bottom box I haven't had any issues yet. Just unlock the lid on the box I need and lift the lid with the stack attached to it. I don't have anything for fasteners yet, I reckon drawers for fastereners would be ideal.
First time I saw packout I laughed (no drawers?). Never bought a single one because of that terrible design flaw. No way on this green earth was I going to unstuck and restack for a tool. I most likely won't buy these new drawer boxes either since they stand to tall stacked. You can't lay them flat either because all your crap shifts inside, so you're stuck unstacking them anyway just to fit in the truck. They are a much needed improvement though and would be perfect inside a converted work trailer.
Thanks for the insight! Btw, I know it’s not as cool but think of your pick up truck as the obsolete pack out box and a high roof cargo van as the new and improved one! Just a thought after seeing you doubled over in the back of your truck :-)
Especially after he removed the back seats. Now the truck is a dedicated “work truck” & can no longer support the family as a weekend outing camping/ off-roading/ family vehicle.
Packout, dewalt, ridgid, all of em should just start making everything drawers or even a cabinet maybe. The bottom rolling box should jus be a 1 big drawer or multiple drawers. Have options. I have toughsystem 2.0 and some 1.0 and i primarily leave my bottom box with the wheels empty unless i really need to throw more stuff in there b4 going into the job. I work out even a 17' box truck so i have a lot space for a lot of boxes. I utilize a wall rack in the truck with the arms which is awesome. Working organized is definitely key.
I like the drawer setup. Definitely looks more practical but a panel van would make even more sense. I know it’s not what you want or like but it is way better to work out of
T E T R I S ! We already knew this when we first bought the stuff. So now you have plastic version of wooden casework. You could make the drawer units yourself, and use much stronger glides, and make the thing lock far better than Packout does. Now to add wheels, and a worktop... hey wait... that would be a tool chest ! It seems like we are making a circle back to what we used decades ago!
Great video. Just about to pull the trigger on some pack out stuff and your new strategy was one that crossed my mind. I’m pretty sure I’m going to go that way after seeing this video, thanks. Regarding your back seat…I wonder how it’d work if you screwed a pack out tray to your floor in your back seat then locked in your boxes to that. You could even do several trays and put your most used tools boxes at the doors then you could just open the truck door and your tools are right there. I may try that on my truck when I get my drawers.
Exactly. It's what stopped me from buying Packout in the 1st place. Was it just me or wld it have been annoying to unstack everything for access I thought. Now, w/ the drawers I'm all in!! Got the 2&3 drawer & I'll wait til they come out w/ a drawer version of their new Packout toolbox, leaving only the box that integrated into the dolly. Maybe the Hand truck wld eliminate having to unstack the bottom 4 modules altogether?
If that is a 6 or 6.5 foot bed you can get a 5.5 foot slider for the truck bed. You can place the new boxes on the slider and you will still have room at the front for your spray etc. The large slider drawer will actually help to hold the gear in front of it (closer to the cab) from sliding around. If those Milwaukee boxes are all a fixed height you could even put a sheet of ply in at the correct height across the bed to allow you to use the bed slider and still have a second layer on top for other tools and materials.
"... because of the drawers, and I think one of the thi - aught!!!" 😁 Hilarious ending. I was watching your footing, thinking you might slip off the back there. Then this! 😆 Thanks for the videos.
DIYer here, I have a garage full of Festool boxes, I do not complain of how much it costs me to organizes my stuff, I just started researching and buying Milwaukee products and it’s some of the best organized stuff out there and price comparison, great value for the price
You can still use the lid ones for the top of your tool box stack. I use the Tstak; drawers on the bottom, lids on the top with the dolly cart. Works great. Or the Toughbox racks/hand truck which allows you to slide a box out.
Bro I’m glad you posted this. I bought 2 of the regular Milwaukee Packout boxes and I didn’t bother getting more because of how tedious it is to stack and unstack everything. The droor boxes are definitely badass.
I dig em but not completely sold on drawers yet I'd like to see how they perform long term as far as casters, tracks, the plastic itself. Not saying I won't ever get em but wanna wait.
I built wooden drawer slides that are 20 inches high, go as high as u want , I used 3/4 plywood on everything, used furniture wax on plywood, I have a lot of weight and it still slides great, the top even slides out , u have to drill enough holes on the back of the box that the drawers are in because of the suction, I will never go back to anything else, I can fit a ton in it, I would say one has to be 300 pounds , should weigh them , decked drawers don't make them deep enough.
I personally like the t stack drawers system. It's the perfect size for tools, allot lighter and cheaper. Also for the garage craftsman versa stak fits on the t stack.
I love the dewalt stuff in the Milwaukee tool boxes. L Also the tough system 2.0 is really good especially if you need to store larger stuff in the box. I do like the drawers though it looks very convenient. Do they latch together?
Yep, I've got tons of Ridgid boxes I've thrown out. I actually built two 5 drawer rolling wood cabinets with 8" tires and a welded handle on the back, but they're so heavy I can't take them up stairs. I can fit so much in them, but the mobility is the issue. Packout currently has the best drawers, but they're crazy expensive and they aren't deep enough for some tools.
I have a ram 1500 lone star and I really wanna do the same with my back seat. I love the idea of all the storage space under the back seats but it's a pain to get to them when I have a bunch of tool bags piled up back there. I do keep all my sandpaper and framing squares stored between the seat and the little fold out platform that isn't too difficult to get to
Slide out drawers for everything! Your back seat replacement platform needs to be on full extension slides. Just pull out the platform tray to get to your drawers.
I’m returning my packouts to HD and buying the drawers. Where do you store your larger tools that don’t fit in the drawers? Planer, circular saw, belt sander…
I can agree that the drawers are an absolute necessity, buy for a lot of us, we can't get all of our tools in them. Where would you put your circ saw or recip saw?
Brother, I've been saying that for years now ... i've been a diesel mechanic/welder for 35 years and have only ever used toolboxes with drawers or soft bags for service calls .you're going to have way more room and you're not gonna be limited as to how you can organize your tools. I realize carpenters can't have metal toolboxes due to weight but at least with drawers you can access everything so much easier. good job of recognizing that, I'm sure you'll be able to sell all those pack out easily. Man, the time you're going to save woo wee.
I carry my Packouts in a van cargo hold, so only the rolling cart will fit, no room for the dolly, so I cut a drawer into mine. Now I can wheel my stack to where the job is, pop a few latches and work right out of it.
I waited for the drawers, since I have drawers for Festool Systainer. For Festool, the box will slide out. But they are pretty small. And I needed my Sawzall into the box. So I waited. I have two drawers at the bottom. Three drawers in the middle and XL box at the top. And I have a radio in between and have the socket wrench at the top of XL box. Love them
Brother Richard has never responded to my van suggestion comments. My boy will eventually see the light (or not). Love you brother...you are a class act, always. God bless you and your family.
You need to be careful with unsecured heavy items in the back seat area, with space to move in front of them they can become flying missiles with you as the target in the event of an accident. Would be better facing the other way against the backs of the front seat, or ideally secured during transit with proper straps not bungee cords.
I guess a dog fence or a cage like the cops or cabbies use would help stop flying objects especially if a rollover occurs. But I agree they need fastening down for sure.
"She`s starting to get it, we need to buy more tools ! " This is the highest-point you´ll ever be with your marriage, embrace it and enjoy while it last
Get a trailer and a shelving system for your tools. I had a cleaning business and all my supplies had a home and they were secure and out of the weather. This my first time seeing your you tube channel and it reminds me as my business was growing having the same issues.
I have pretty much all the old packout boxes, they are really good to store bulky tools. I pretty much have all the main carpentry Milwaukee cordless tools, and I think it'll be a pain in the ass to store them in the drawers. i fit 2 impact drivers, 2 grinders , 2 drills and one nail gun and planer + 2 batteries in the big briefcase. but for small stuff the drawers will be perfect.
The problem with the Packout drawer system is the drawers are plastic and the bottoms will sag & drag when loaded up with heavy gear. I'm not saying that they are bad, but they are not the perfect solution for everything. They have their place in the Packout line-up, just don't expect them to handle extra-heavy items and hold up in the long run.
You could carpet that platform in the back seat and it would help a ton to dampen the noise of them bouncing around and also keep them from sliding around
I’ve got the 3 tool box on wheels from Home Depot kit and large, med, small organizers. And it’s great I split them up grab what tool box I need ....go to job ! However in the garage I’m going to start another system with tool box with wheels and Two ....2 drawers and a one 3 drawers on top ! Cause it is a pain if you need to get at stuff!
As a retired trim carpenter, you dont have to convince me that it's more important to spend money on tools, rather than a new pair of shoes for mama....lol
I tried to stay away from Packout for a long time but the drawers made me cave. I just couldn't justify the price so I bought the Husky 22" connect system and it worked great but it still has the same downfall of having to unpack everything. I do like that it was much thinner than packout but the drawers make my life so much easier. I do a lot of commercial rollouts so being able to bring all my tools in and only take up a little space is a big deal for me.
Thx for your videos. What is your coverage area? How far is too far for you? As a self-employed tradesman, I stay within my zip. But I do a lot of different things. As a finish carpenter, I would imagine I would have to cover more area to stay busy.
AMEN Brother ! I always wondered why they didn't do drawer options. I always have to un-stack them as well and it drives me nuts. I've actually bought more hardware, or a tool, instead of digging into the stack.
You should consider a box van. When I was still building houses we had one and it was the cat's meow with shelving (I made my own) on each side of the box. Much more convenient, imo
The dewalt drawers lock themselves in place so you don't need that silly bar infront of them. The reason I stopped using these things is because if they tip over or jump around in my van then everything gets mixed up. They stay in my shop now!
Hey Google T Dula carts. They make custom hand trucks that mount to your hitch with a custom release mechanism. You could mount those boxes to the cart and never have to lift them again.
That's why you get toughsystem and the toughsystem dolly. You can grab the bottom box or the middle without unstacking everything and they have had drawers forever.
Which ever storage system you decide to use?... If it's stackable?... Start with the drawers!!!! They go on the bottom of the stack! I use TStak, the dolly, trolley and mobile boxes. The drawers always go on the bottom! When I get enthusiastic?... I'll video my TStak setup
you are 100% right, the packout stack is not as hot as milwaukee thinks it is, who wants to unstack all the time to get into bottum box.I thought about drawer tool boxes 5 years age, good thing i only bought 3 packout boxes, and waited for drawer boxes.
You can get packout bases and bolt them to your seat delete panel to fix the drawers in place in the cab. No sliding and you won't have to worry about strapping them.
Some people are starting to complain about drawer sag tho. The weight of the tools overtimes, makes the bottom of the drawer sag and rub when opening. Milwaukee should have reinforced those drawers with metal.
I really think u need a trailer for ur work even 6*10 will do the job . I was doing what u doing and I always need more space. Then I got a 6*12 trailer and man it's a big Is different . U should try that and u be getting more work done for sure . Thanks for your great work
As long as you have drawers, you can always keep one standard packout box on top because you don’t have to take it off the drawers to get to anything below.
The drawers leak, which is a problem if you have to deal with intermittent rain or weather. I also still really like the clear top storage units because the screws don't get mixed up when they fall over. You also don't have to carry them with two hands and flat.
They need to make drawers with a gasket around them like tough system, but ts doesn't lock. Also they need something like the tstak Dolly so you can put whatever box you want on the bottom and still do stairs/rough terrain. I was able to make my tstak drawers waterproof by installing my own gaskets around them, but if that leaks it's going to suck for me. And I can't lock them so I'm hesitant to leave them outside anyways
@@NonieTools Toughsystem actually has a heavy-duty hand truck with the wall-mounting arms, so you can mount toolboxes on it and roll them around and get to any box on it without unstacking any except the one you need.
I may know a person that does in fact stack their boxes that high! 🤣🤣
But You would never drop a tool box-🤣🤣
I know a guy !!!
Maybe check out the tough system ?😉😉😆
You....lol
Got to be Vince! 🤣🤣🤣
Less is more! I almost got sucked into all this Milwaukee organizing! My great grandfather built houses with one toolbox that he could cary. I now run a one man construction company out of a Ford Ranger and I do it all. The point is to learn how to use what you have and be prepared for the next day! It’s ez to get in the habit of towing the shop around but planning is key to being a profitable minimal contractor!
Imagine how many tradesmen waste a lot of gas by hauling a truck or van around with almost all their tools & equipment.
All it takes is 5-10 minutes of thinking through what you need for the day on a job
@@JudgeBuster Ya until you forget that one tool and you waste an hour to either go buy it again at a local hardware store or race back home to pick it up. Do that a few times and you'll wish you always had everything on hand and then some extra.
Ahhh so true!!!!
Wow what a comment... Ever consider setting up a You Tube channel and teaching us your origanizing skills? I would subscribe immediately!
ya all you need is a saw, a bucket, and a hammer.
Look for a horse stall mat for the bed of your truck. The great thing about those is that nothing slides around on them. The bad thing about them is when you are standing there with your tailgate down, & your toolbox is at the far end of your truck bed nothing slides towards you easily. But you can cut them to fit your setup & work flow. I hope this helps.
“You’re staring to get it. We gotta get more tools” :)
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Came here just for this hahahaha
Hahahaha hell yes!
Would not like to be paying this lad no brain
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Use packout plates secured to back seat delete. I have them secured to my under seat tool box. Works great they do not move.
I wouldn't say the Packout tooboxes are entirely obsolete, I find them useful for holding my nailers / circular saws / sawzall etc. The drawers are amazing though, I have mine on the dolly base with the M18 shop vac / 15" tool bag on top and it's absolutely amazing
Waiting for the “I finally bought a trailer no idea why I waited so long” episode. 🤣👍
Hahahahaha
He’s mentioned a trailer before, but due to HOA, can’t have park it at home.
@@mr.smitty1993 can he not make space for it in his garage? It doesn't necessarily have to be a large trailer just enough were he can organize everything pretty easily.
@@layth888 I don't believe most enclosed trailers will fit in a garage
You can get pack out mounting brackets for the back seat delete area.
Ego to the side. " You really should really consider, getting a VAN ". Best decision that transition that I ever made.
It's like a mini workshop on wheels, with drawls everywhere & you can stand up in it. Also you can transport MDF & Ladders & a Wheel Trolley hassle free.
Plus it's discreet, no-one can see inside the van, so less likely to break in plus nothing is outside in the rain.
Indeed, in Europa almost everyone uses a van. I get the likes for a pickup, they're really cool, but a van is way more useful.
I have tried to justify buying a pickup truck for my business and everytime I just can’t do it because my cargo van does everything better than a truck can. The only exception is I can’t fit my family in a cargo van.
I have the old style and plan to add drawers. I see value in both styles. I like the idea of pulling a single case and taking it to tight places where I can't take drawers. A covered case in standard, low profile or half size provides many options when you need the content of a whole drawer in the attic.
Thanks for the info! Very useful. With reference to leaving the boxes unsecured in the backseat, think about having to make a slam stop. Even if they're only one box tall, you've got a potential heavy projectile coming for your back in the best case, and it there's a bump, it could bounce up and hit the back of your head. I wouldn't want to count on the headrest being enough to protect me. Your head could be moving backwards in a collision while the box is moving forward with a lot of energy. Too many ways that can go wrong. I would want them all well secured.
"these suck, y'all want to buy em?!" 😆
@@FinishCarpentryTV I bet if you engraved them or something with "Official Finish Carpentry TV gear" or something like that and sent a certificate as a collectable, you could probably break even or turn a profit. Could even auction them off for a local charity (like people still hurting from the winter).
From the archives of..."this tastes like shit, here try it!"
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Can I have them!!
Are you okay man? I'm concerned. I need more of your videos. Love your work.
I would say both designs are best for certain jobs. A lot of projects I'm on im running circuits at up to 5 different locations a day and those smaller packout boxes are a life saver for holding all my connectors, red heads, and fasteners. I wouldn't want to tote around those shelves in and out into my job 5+ times a day.
I know this is old, but they’re still not bad as dedicated tool boxes to keep the garage/ shop organized. Like one per box, and tools you don’t use on the daily. For me it would be the nailer, sawzall, skillsaw, a few other stuff
You make THE BEST finish carpentry videos. Period. Plus, you are good on the camera. Chill. Smart. Concise. Good.
I think your crazy for working out of a pickup bed but it’s awesome to see it work for you. I would love to see you build a trailer or van like some of the other guys on TH-cam have done. Love your work and videos!
It takes alot more packing and unpacking forsure...so many jobs don't have space for a trailer to be parked everything has its pros and cons
6:00 It would be a good idea to secure them in place somehow when moving to help prevent getting hit by your tools in case of a roll over.
Hahaha, DeWalt has had the Tstak drawers for years. They do an awesome job, don't cost a whole lot and are durable. I've been just using them for years.
Fanboys don't care if something else is better.
@@saulgoodman2018 so true 🤣
You are a funny guy, I love the little bits here and there. Real comedy is rare so thank you.
I think festool and bosch were the only two doing this till now. Both very costly.
I run the rigid system. I like them. Short falls yes. Two complaints i had of the milw was the compartment size and cost.
I only require a short stack of boxes for my work so drawers not necessary, but may be an upgrade in the future.
Would like to see one of these with a better solution to stairs. Curious how long before the wheels fall of my rigid.
Buy a two seater transit or a sprinter Long Body. You can still haul lumber with you door open and that hitch extender you use with the truck. Ladders can still go on top. You are inadvertently converting your truck into a van. Cut your losses and skip to the van. It's painful to watching you slowly coming to this conclusion.
@@FinishCarpentryTV I drive the high roof nissan nv2500. You are right about the wind. I've had to pull off the freeway in the Palm Springs area several times because of wind. Had trouble keeping it in my lane.
lmao. worst advice ever.
😂 this comment is stupid, after all the the thought he puts into his work and tool organization, don’t you think he’s thought about a van or had one before? This man knows what he’s doing and knows what he wants
@ eventual entrophy. What do you do in PS. I work the valley too. Cool to see a local in here
@@FinishCarpentryTV Makes total sense. But I thought you had a passenger van for the fam and not work.
Nothing like stepping into the van and being able to stand and reach into a shelf instead of being a gymnast while getting tools.
You are right. They don't have much power.
You could put a hellephant engine in a sprinter, use it for work on the wk days and drag racing on the wkend.
Love the vids.👍
Surprisingly decent quality:, HART has a nice portable 22" cantilever box with dividers top & bottom $20. Also, Craftsman has a 3 level Cantilever 80lb capacity w wheels @ Lowes on sale $79. I use for my PA equipment, inverter, mics, cords, etc. The system you got w drawers is rad. The cart with a pullout extension work great for your extra boxes. They might have a weight limit. There's also truck bed false floor toolboxes with pullout drawers for tools. Nobody knows tools are under the fake floor base.
Great video.
I use the packout and trolley for my power tools. When I work I just unclip the lot . Then when I'm done stack them back up. I do want draws though but I'd make a separate stack. So wrenches, spanners, screw drivers, hex , screws.nuts bolts etc
I legit laughed out loud at the ending, thank you for that, I needed it on a Friday :D
You've got to get a van!
I make and fit windows/doors and had a land rover defender pick up truck for a few years (my dream wagon) and loved it! I made it work like you're doing and bought a trailer for it. It broke down and I hired a van for a week, WHAT A REVELATION!!!
Ended up getting a ford transit custom and wow it makes my life so much easier, and is like driving a car.
Trucks are cool but impractical. No more having to tie things on the roof or getting sheets wet in transit.
love having my promaster, it is decked out with shelving and tools. i love it when i open the back or side door and people walk by. Every time they are impressed by the custom shelves and all the organization.
Yup, I just bought 4 dewalt single tstak drawers and it’s the a game changer, everything is organized now except for my sawzaw, circularsaw but will get a deep storage dewalt tstak
Yup, every time I finish up a job and start packing my stuff up it ALWAYS happens that I find a screwdriver or a pack of bits that I now have to disconnect all of my boxes to get to the one where they go. So frustrating. Gonna have some of these for sure.
I'm new to packout. I have the wheeling box, 2 large boxes, a small box and a crate. Unless I have to get something in the bottom box I haven't had any issues yet. Just unlock the lid on the box I need and lift the lid with the stack attached to it.
I don't have anything for fasteners yet, I reckon drawers for fastereners would be ideal.
First time I saw packout I laughed (no drawers?). Never bought a single one because of that terrible design flaw.
No way on this green earth was I going to unstuck and restack for a tool.
I most likely won't buy these new drawer boxes either since they stand to tall stacked. You can't lay them flat either because all your crap shifts inside, so you're stuck unstacking them anyway just to fit in the truck.
They are a much needed improvement though and would be perfect inside a converted work trailer.
Thanks for the insight! Btw, I know it’s not as cool but think of your pick up truck as the obsolete pack out box and a high roof cargo van as the new and improved one! Just a thought after seeing you doubled over in the back of your truck :-)
Came here to say this exactly
Especially after he removed the back seats. Now the truck is a dedicated “work truck” & can no longer support the family as a weekend outing camping/ off-roading/ family vehicle.
Packout, dewalt, ridgid, all of em should just start making everything drawers or even a cabinet maybe. The bottom rolling box should jus be a 1 big drawer or multiple drawers. Have options. I have toughsystem 2.0 and some 1.0 and i primarily leave my bottom box with the wheels empty unless i really need to throw more stuff in there b4 going into the job. I work out even a 17' box truck so i have a lot space for a lot of boxes. I utilize a wall rack in the truck with the arms which is awesome. Working organized is definitely key.
I appreciate you getting right to the point and not making me fast forward through 2 minutes of video to see your neat new gear.
I like the drawer setup. Definitely looks more practical but a panel van would make even more sense. I know it’s not what you want or like but it is way better to work out of
T E T R I S ! We already knew this when we first bought the stuff. So now you have plastic version of wooden casework. You could make the drawer units yourself, and use much stronger glides, and make the thing lock far better than Packout does. Now to add wheels, and a worktop... hey wait... that would be a tool chest ! It seems like we are making a circle back to what we used decades ago!
That's what I'm saying. The drawer systems are plastic tool chests.
Do a giveaway with the old ones. That would be fun!
Great video. Just about to pull the trigger on some pack out stuff and your new strategy was one that crossed my mind. I’m pretty sure I’m going to go that way after seeing this video, thanks. Regarding your back seat…I wonder how it’d work if you screwed a pack out tray to your floor in your back seat then locked in your boxes to that. You could even do several trays and put your most used tools boxes at the doors then you could just open the truck door and your tools are right there. I may try that on my truck when I get my drawers.
Exactly. It's what stopped me from buying Packout in the 1st place. Was it just me or wld it have been annoying to unstack everything for access I thought. Now, w/ the drawers I'm all in!! Got the 2&3 drawer & I'll wait til they come out w/ a drawer version of their new Packout toolbox, leaving only the box that integrated into the dolly. Maybe the Hand truck wld eliminate having to unstack the bottom 4 modules altogether?
If that is a 6 or 6.5 foot bed you can get a 5.5 foot slider for the truck bed. You can place the new boxes on the slider and you will still have room at the front for your spray etc. The large slider drawer will actually help to hold the gear in front of it (closer to the cab) from sliding around. If those Milwaukee boxes are all a fixed height you could even put a sheet of ply in at the correct height across the bed to allow you to use the bed slider and still have a second layer on top for other tools and materials.
The boxes are more water tight than the drawers. But yeah. Drawers are better if you don’t need the water proofing.
The ending was truly epic. 👍 I needed a good laugh thanks for that!
Rock On . . . 👍🍺🍺🍺
"... because of the drawers, and I think one of the thi - aught!!!" 😁
Hilarious ending. I was watching your footing, thinking you might slip off the back there. Then this! 😆 Thanks for the videos.
DIYer here, I have a garage full of Festool boxes, I do not complain of how much it costs me to organizes my stuff, I just started researching and buying Milwaukee products and it’s some of the best organized stuff out there and price comparison, great value for the price
You can still use the lid ones for the top of your tool box stack. I use the Tstak; drawers on the bottom, lids on the top with the dolly cart. Works great. Or the Toughbox racks/hand truck which allows you to slide a box out.
Bro I’m glad you posted this. I bought 2 of the regular Milwaukee Packout boxes and I didn’t bother getting more because of how tedious it is to stack and unstack everything. The droor boxes are definitely badass.
I dig em but not completely sold on drawers yet I'd like to see how they perform long term as far as casters, tracks, the plastic itself. Not saying I won't ever get em but wanna wait.
I built wooden drawer slides that are 20 inches high, go as high as u want , I used 3/4 plywood on everything, used furniture wax on plywood, I have a lot of weight and it still slides great, the top even slides out , u have to drill enough holes on the back of the box that the drawers are in because of the suction, I will never go back to anything else, I can fit a ton in it, I would say one has to be 300 pounds , should weigh them , decked drawers don't make them deep enough.
I personally like the t stack drawers system. It's the perfect size for tools, allot lighter and cheaper. Also for the garage craftsman versa stak fits on the t stack.
All us married tool enthusiasts felt that emotional plea @2:50 but her agreeing to needing more tools is a bit of a leap😅
2:51 😂 😂 🤣 🤣 Become so organized you need more tools to fill in the empty spots
I love the dewalt stuff in the Milwaukee tool boxes. L
Also the tough system 2.0 is really good especially if you need to store larger stuff in the box. I do like the drawers though it looks very convenient. Do they latch together?
Yep, I've got tons of Ridgid boxes I've thrown out. I actually built two 5 drawer rolling wood cabinets with 8" tires and a welded handle on the back, but they're so heavy I can't take them up stairs. I can fit so much in them, but the mobility is the issue. Packout currently has the best drawers, but they're crazy expensive and they aren't deep enough for some tools.
I have a ram 1500 lone star and I really wanna do the same with my back seat. I love the idea of all the storage space under the back seats but it's a pain to get to them when I have a bunch of tool bags piled up back there. I do keep all my sandpaper and framing squares stored between the seat and the little fold out platform that isn't too difficult to get to
Slide out drawers for everything! Your back seat replacement platform needs to be on full extension slides. Just pull out the platform tray to get to your drawers.
There is a 4-drawer Packout available, too. Didn't see it at HD but found them online for sale.
I’m returning my packouts to HD and buying the drawers. Where do you store your larger tools that don’t fit in the drawers? Planer, circular saw, belt sander…
I can agree that the drawers are an absolute necessity, buy for a lot of us, we can't get all of our tools in them. Where would you put your circ saw or recip saw?
show us again the "walk back in with a smile!" It was great - you are made out for the movies!
To help with any sliding in the back seat delete, maybe a packout base? (no wheels)
Brother, I've been saying that for years now ... i've been a diesel mechanic/welder for 35 years and have only ever used toolboxes with drawers or soft bags for service calls .you're going to have way more room and you're not gonna be limited as to how you can organize your tools. I realize carpenters can't have metal toolboxes due to weight but at least with drawers you can access everything so much easier. good job of recognizing that, I'm sure you'll be able to sell all those pack out easily. Man, the time you're going to save woo wee.
“You’re starting to get it” hahaha
I carry my Packouts in a van cargo hold, so only the rolling cart will fit, no room for the dolly, so I cut a drawer into mine. Now I can wheel my stack to where the job is, pop a few latches and work right out of it.
I waited for the drawers, since I have drawers for Festool Systainer. For Festool, the box will slide out. But they are pretty small. And I needed my Sawzall into the box. So I waited. I have two drawers at the bottom. Three drawers in the middle and XL box at the top. And I have a radio in between and have the socket wrench at the top of XL box. Love them
Brother Richard has never responded to my van suggestion comments. My boy will eventually see the light (or not). Love you brother...you are a class act, always. God bless you and your family.
You need to be careful with unsecured heavy items in the back seat area, with space to move in front of them they can become flying missiles with you as the target in the event of an accident.
Would be better facing the other way against the backs of the front seat, or ideally secured during transit with proper straps not bungee cords.
I guess a dog fence or a cage like the cops or cabbies use would help stop flying objects especially if a rollover occurs. But I agree they need fastening down for sure.
Looks great. You might look into adding some sort of casters on the bottom units...
"She`s starting to get it, we need to buy more tools ! " This is the highest-point you´ll ever be with your marriage, embrace it and enjoy while it last
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Appreciate the heads up, i agree, it saves so much. Please keep us in the loop regarding durability and problems. Be well and stay safe.
Check out Bed Rug for your cargo space. It will eliminate sliding tool boxes.
Get a trailer and a shelving system for your tools. I had a cleaning business and all my supplies had a home and they were secure and out of the weather. This my first time seeing your you tube channel and it reminds me as my business was growing having the same issues.
I’d gladly buy those from you! I’m just starting my own company and always looking for things to help keep me organized.
I have pretty much all the old packout boxes, they are really good to store bulky tools. I pretty much have all the main carpentry Milwaukee cordless tools, and I think it'll be a pain in the ass to store them in the drawers.
i fit 2 impact drivers, 2 grinders , 2 drills and one nail gun and planer + 2 batteries in the big briefcase.
but for small stuff the drawers will be perfect.
The problem with the Packout drawer system is the drawers are plastic and the bottoms will sag & drag when loaded up with heavy gear. I'm not saying that they are bad, but they are not the perfect solution for everything. They have their place in the Packout line-up, just don't expect them to handle extra-heavy items and hold up in the long run.
You could carpet that platform in the back seat and it would help a ton to dampen the noise of them bouncing around and also keep them from sliding around
I’ve got the 3 tool box on wheels from Home Depot kit and large, med, small organizers. And it’s great I split them up grab what tool box I need ....go to job ! However in the garage I’m going to start another system with tool box with wheels and Two ....2 drawers and a one 3 drawers on top ! Cause it is a pain if you need to get at stuff!
As a retired trim carpenter, you dont have to convince me that it's more important to spend money on tools, rather than a new pair of shoes for mama....lol
I tried to stay away from Packout for a long time but the drawers made me cave. I just couldn't justify the price so I bought the Husky 22" connect system and it worked great but it still has the same downfall of having to unpack everything. I do like that it was much thinner than packout but the drawers make my life so much easier. I do a lot of commercial rollouts so being able to bring all my tools in and only take up a little space is a big deal for me.
You need a transit. 130” wheel base, 3.5 twin turbo, 3:73’s in the back with some hackney shelves inside. It’s a great combo!
Thx for your videos. What is your coverage area? How far is too far for you? As a self-employed tradesman, I stay within my zip. But I do a lot of different things. As a finish carpenter, I would imagine I would have to cover more area to stay busy.
AMEN Brother ! I always wondered why they didn't do drawer options. I always have to un-stack them as well and it drives me nuts. I've actually bought more hardware, or a tool, instead of digging into the stack.
You should consider a box van. When I was still building houses we had one and it was the cat's meow with shelving (I made my own) on each side of the box. Much more convenient, imo
“we gotta get more tools” is what I wish I can say around here 😂
The dewalt drawers lock themselves in place so you don't need that silly bar infront of them. The reason I stopped using these things is because if they tip over or jump around in my van then everything gets mixed up. They stay in my shop now!
Hey Google T Dula carts. They make custom hand trucks that mount to your hitch with a custom release mechanism. You could mount those boxes to the cart and never have to lift them again.
Look up "overland truck bed kitchen". Replace the kitchen stuff with tools and you could build a pretty cool "truck bed shop".
I put my hand tools in the drawers, power tools in the boxes, and call it a day.
I remember having to climb in my truck to get tools. What a pain in the butt. The cargo van changed my life. High top van is my next vehicle
That's why you get toughsystem and the toughsystem dolly. You can grab the bottom box or the middle without unstacking everything and they have had drawers forever.
Which ever storage system you decide to use?...
If it's stackable?...
Start with the drawers!!!!
They go on the bottom of the stack!
I use TStak, the dolly, trolley and mobile boxes.
The drawers always go on the bottom!
When I get enthusiastic?... I'll video my TStak setup
We use the top loaders for fj and band equipment. They work just fine
you are 100% right, the packout stack is not as hot as milwaukee thinks it is, who wants to unstack all the time to get into bottum box.I thought about drawer tool boxes 5 years age, good thing i only bought 3 packout boxes, and waited for drawer boxes.
You can get packout bases and bolt them to your seat delete panel to fix the drawers in place in the cab. No sliding and you won't have to worry about strapping them.
Circular saws don't fit in drawers etc. So use the big boxes for big stuff. You might not need all of those lol but they gotta be useful nice setup.
You can get the plates that the pack out boxes snap into. If you attach them to your truck that might be nicer than bungies
I'm waiting on the Milwaukee work truck😅
Some people are starting to complain about drawer sag tho. The weight of the tools overtimes, makes the bottom of the drawer sag and rub when opening. Milwaukee should have reinforced those drawers with metal.
Dewalt makes a hand truck style dolly that i absolutely love. Much easier than unstacking every box individually
That ending is priceless
Great ending and commercial transition 😂
I really think u need a trailer for ur work even 6*10 will do the job . I was doing what u doing and I always need more space. Then I got a 6*12 trailer and man it's a big Is different . U should try that and u be getting more work done for sure .
Thanks for your great work
Your on a streak please continue to keep posting. Love the vids