it's stated and implied quite a lot that domain expansions use far more CE than the amount used for CE reinforcement, CT's and attacks imbued with cursed energy. Nearly 0 sorcereres can activate domain expansion multiple times in a day, apart from characters with absolutely massive amounts of CE (sukuna) or characters who have practically infinite amounts (gojo, hakari). So this means if characters did use the same amount of CE for attacks and CE reinforcement they'd only be able to fight for very short amounts of time. Ds characters would easily dodge their maximum of 3 attacks (Most ds humans better stamina feats than jjk humans) and one tap them easily. It's also stated that CT burns out immediately after domain expansion (with yuta, even after a little while, his CT hadnt come back) . In jjk, characters use their cursed techniques multiple times in a fight, one example being mahito and their cursed energy doesn't seem to burn out even after tens of uses. After one domain expansion however, Uro and yuta couldn't use their cursed techniques after one domain expansion. Keep in mind yuta not even that long ago had his cursed energy replenished by rika. Also, there's jogo himself, who right after using domain expansion couldnt use his cursed energy to heal his body (unless beheading slows it down or stops it for curses, as gojo says that beheading can stop RCT for sorcerers at least, idk if it applys to curses since they use CE) after gojo beheaded him. And when he versed sukuna he unleashed multiple massive techniques yet healed pretty fine. So basically, characters don't scale to their domain in terms of AP and durability. If they did, they'd only throw 2 or 3 punches and get one tapped.
@@BSRejector5613 something I wrote long ago, debunking domain scaling, cause ppl were tryna get jogo to large mountain+ and dagon to mountain. Copied it here cause it seemed fitting
Mahito did face cut burn out and that’s why immediately after his domain he didn’t one tap todo and instead landed a black flash. The reason why he probably didn’t last that long though is probably related to his regeneration as a curse, the amo of the black flash and the fact that the burn out never lasts that long anyway as we saw with yuta in Sendai. Like at best, that was minute and a half without it
The reason why Gojo could use his CTs after a domain is because he damaged the part of his brain where CTs get burned out then used RCT to heal it. And the reason why Sukuna could use CTs after his domain is that he swaps between his own techniques and Megumi's techniques, so he's able to use Ten Shadows while his techniques are on cooldown.
W video. I also want to mention the fact that I don’t even think that domains scale to the persons AP and is just a hax.The reason for this is because that would mean that Dagons AP> Sukuna’s, Jogo’s and Higuruma’s AP. As a reminder Jogo, who was directly stated to be stronger then Dagon can only create a mountain with his domain while Dagon himself can create an island. And don’t even get me started on Sukuna, the guy can only create a shrine with his domain while Higuruma can only create a single room with his. As for the Sukuna being planetary you said everything that I thought but I would like to add that Jjk manga was still new at the time and Gege probably was still not sure how strong he should make the Jjk verse. Plus, because Jjk was new at the time it had a high chance of getting axed so Gege had to grab the readers attention with something to avoid that.
Gojo also quite literally confirms time does indeed pass in the prison realm Chapter 223, Page 1, Panel 1&2 Ichiji: What was your sense of time like in the prison realm? Gojou: Hmm... similar to how it feels when work gets extra busy. Gojou: That contradictory feeling when a week passes in the blink of an eye... and yet, you would never want to do it again.
I don’t understand jjk fanboys, they refuse to accept gojo is the strongest in the verse but every time they power scaling against other verses, they always bringing up how " how no one can bypass infinity " 😭
You dont have to argue for dagon’s domain at all they just dont scale to their domain’s creations. Gojo’s domain has galaxies in it if that was a rule Gojo would automatically be galaxy level which is obviously not the case if you read the story at all
Nothing much to really Debunk around world slash, the concept is simple The ability targets the space around the target (not the target itself) and with a slash negates their durability that's pretty much it Anyone with Low-Mid regeneration can just recover from this attack
@@GunshyFeverwe actually dont know if world slash doesn’t prevent healing or not, considering gojo’s injury in theory should be able to be rct-ed, but it doesn’t appear to be able to so far. Obviously, this probably doesn’t apply to other healing abilities
@@greezchum76lawyer dude got 3 of his limbs cut off by Sukuna's world dismantle, and he just regrew them with RCT. In Gojo's case, Sukuna might have added a bit of knockback to the slash to separate Go and Jo before RCT can reconnect the halves, considering that Gojo's uppers torso fell a couple of steps behind his legs. Sukuna has shown that he can he can regulate the knockback of his slashes.
See, now this makes sense. I don’t even get where people say “Gojo is Planetary” from when he’s shown town level feats. I saw this Superman vs Gojo edit (I know more about Comics than Anime, and I just started watching anime and JJK is my 3rd so far) and people were in the comments saying Gojo is Planetary and one dude said he was Multiversal 💀 ppl like this are the definition of Stupid. Those people seriously need to watch these videos and educate themselves. That goes for any fanbase really.
0:03 Glad to see someone sharing the same observation ! This verse have really interesting hax, but honestly some stuff as the speed scaling are too much overrated
I'd be interested in seeing your take on Sukuna vs Shigaraki, seeing as his most common JJK Matchup (Mahito) is generally considered only a win as Shiggy cannot destroy his soul, while Sukuna could be destroyed bodily.
@@googoongga sadly sukkuna slashes can be bigger than the human body by far as seen against Kashimo so sadly shigaraki gets erased from reality neg difficulty 😪
Yuki’s black hole would have destroyed the world without Tengen’s help because a black hole the size of a penny could destroy the world and considering Yuki’s was as big as a city block it would to mountains more damage than that. (Not using this to scale Gojo or Sukuna because both of them would die in said situation)
Bro who gives a shit about how the scaling compares to other series, the only thing important is that the scaling is coherent within its own verse compared to a lot of series who are not.
This is irrelevant but since (I think) Sukuna used space distortion to break infinity, couldn’t Deku do the same with the space (more accurately, reality) distortion he caused using gearshift?
gearshift warps reality slightly, but it's not really needed, infinity divides a distance infinitely so a target never reaches gojo based on his brain, his brain analyzes everything automatically to use infinity, if it can't analyze it, it can't stop it, which is how world cutting slash bypassed it, deku who is infinitely faster than gojo would be too fast for gojo to react to, and therefore bypass infinity, all you need to do is be faster than gojos perception
@@gluttonyzonde4132 yeah thats not my point you are saying if speed>Gojo's brain speed>Infinity which is false Gojo invented this automatic system just so he WON't have to constantly use infinity ofc he still can't stop gases n light but that doesn't mean being faster bypasses Infinity lmao
Ok I personally think that planetary is also a high ball so I won't address that, but domain expansions are directly stated to be the construction of one's own cursed energy meaning to a degree the scale to it innately, and Even domain, Jogo domain is calculated at essentially Island level and we have Gojo and Sakuna just massively scaling above this even Gojo earthquake has been calc in the island lvls of ranges
Maxes at like town in pure AP and MHS at most. Any other feat higher is creation or hax/ability. Any other speed feat higher is simply aim dodging or sound dodging.
I just want to say I think jjk does scale to island level and stuff as shown with the domain expansions and stuff but that doesn’t mean they’re gonna put all their energy into one attack and blow up the an island with them on it. Like domain expansions takes up most of a sorcerer’s curse energy and takes time to build up said curse energy. no their casual attacks won’t be blowing up mountains but it’s more like that’s how much energy they have if that makes sense. For example gojo and sukunas fight was casually destroying the city so if they put all their energy in one attack it probably be island plus. However that’s not realistic to do in a fight either.
Many of you forget that a special rank is given to those who can safely overthrow governments in countries alone and therefore Scaling will definitely go to the planetary
@@dremerteam8733 he can't because gojos strongest attack is around city level, it's literally strongest attack possible. Of course gojo can overthrow humanity but wtf does that mean he can teleport and have the infinity so what does this scale mean. He could life wipe earth but that doesn't make him planetary and he needs multiple attacks to do it
The DC/AP scaling for JJK definititely took a nosedive for me after Gojo vs Sukuna. All the top tiers are like Small City lvl~Large City lvl. The speed scaling improved though. Gege poked fun at their Mach 3 statement and EM waves/lightning attacks being reacted to in-story does upscale the top tiers(how much depends). And the hax is still good in JJK. I don’t think the verse is fodder(that belongs to Tokyo Revengers or Demon Slayer).
Demon slayer being compared to Tokyo revenger is absolutely wild, even the lower moons solo that verse and they are the low low tiers lol. whereas it would require a high tier from jjk (or mahito) to solo demon slayer.
It doesn't really matter if dagons island is equal to an actual island as domain doesn't equal output, even if dagons can create a whole ass island his actual output isn't even close to that, his output being how much raw energy he can put into his attacks defences and movements, as domain are greater than your actual output Its the reason hakari doesn't have infinite ap
Dont cursed techniques scale to cursed energy Like how mai has creation technique but can only create a bullet That would mean yuki had enough cursed energy to pull a black hole off She mightve used a binding vow tho but sukuna and gojo scale wayyy higher
As a non scaler, that's bad scaling, that doesn't mean yuki has enough to make a black hole, because then that would sukuna and gojo could also, and we know they can't, yuki was literally only able to do that because that's her ACTUAL power.
@@Manicboy8 silly billy 😜 Theres a difference between ap and dc Gojo and sukuna dont have attacks big enough to drstroy a planet (sukuna arguably does) Yuki does have an attack like that
That doesn't mean she scales to it. It's quite obvious that the amount of cursed energy she uses for her attacks is FAR FAR less than the cursed energy she needed for the black hole
Why you guys calculate this stuff lmao 😭, we have seen, it was literally stated in the manga, by Kenjaku and Gege themselves, that blackhole would reign destruction on the whole world, no one is safe lmao.
yo just me personally the strongest in jjk like gojo and sukuna are country level as a very high highball (kenjaku stating that a special grade can wipe out an entire nation & statement of gojo being able to power the entire U.S with his cursed energy) and in terms of speed, im not rly sure but yea, great vid! I rly like ur content and ur such an underrate powerscaler!
@@badroboudjerda4394 the statement was smth like "special grade can overthrow an entire nation" which can be interperted in many ways so its a bit iffy
@@dlvldedL the force bypasses limitless. He'd force choke gojo to death or would immediately read gojos mind and figure out about CE and crush his brain killing him instantly
Gojo pushed a tectonic plate just by being unsealed cuzing earthquake across Japan, this isn't large mountain to me, there is a difference between range and scale
@@TaLeNtA696 you don’t need to push tectonic plates to cause shaking. Sing we actually don’t have proof that he was interacting with the tectonic plates we need to use the standard earthquake formula
@@masonmcfadden4886 nah i wouldnt say that. JJK verse fighting is more of a situation type, fire beats leaf and water beats fire type of thing. There are characters that would absolutly cook Buggy while others cant. Example:Yuki, Kashimo, ...
Hmmm... I wonder if you might be interested in the likes of Record of Ragnarok (Shinya Umemura & Takumi Fukui), One-Punch Man (Tomohiro), and The Seven Deadly Sins (Nakaba Suzuki). Some debunk videos of comic book series like The Boys (Garth Ennis) and Invincible (Robert Kirkman), could also be quite interesting in my view.
I can not wait for these guys to try and “debunk” this entire video Bro your entire verse is a deku/asta victim sit your ass down man, im sorry you guys are city-mountain at the absolute max Also w video
Can we just say that manga authors want to make cool moments in their manga and cool statements to make a character seem strong and that power scaling is a cope for those who want to list why their dad is stronger than their friend's dad
The definition of aerial attacks and range absolutely destroy a power scalers delusion, anyone would be way more powerful if they had a bigger range, that basically ruins the whole point of scales, remember that.
People can still calculate the energy in an attack, sukuna city level but his best feats are multi city block because we found the raw energy of the attack
5:20 another reason why this is stupid, a rocket is too far from the center of the earth therefore the gravity is too weak, keny was a couple meters away from the centers of the black hole
@@TaLeNtA696 you aren’t debunking anything. Keny resisting the pull of a black hole is a town level feat, something that I explicitly said in the video. Unless you can make a calculation that shows that Keny would need to be as powerful as a black hole to overpower its pull, your comment means nothing
@@D.bunk_ you serious? If something is pulling the only way to not get pulled is to make a counter force at least as strong as it is so the total amount of force is 0 or applying stronger force to go away from the pull, it's basic physics you know and I'm not saying this to u but to the mha scaling community:"you guys are throwing physics out the window"
@@TaLeNtA696 The town level calc (which I made) is based around calculating the gravitational pull Kenjaku would be experiencing. From that I then simply used the formula for work to calculate how much energy Kenjaku would need to counteract the gravitational pull, and low and behold its town level. But town level is actually an outdated calc, i have an updated version on my discord server (discord.gg/SXCaGKgM3z) which is mountain level. Again, if you disagree then make your own calc. Unless you can do that then realize that you don’t understand power scaling or physics, and move on
😂 u said the amount of energy one would need to resist the force of a black hole is town level. What a joke. For reference, the amount of energy a 70kg person standing 50cm from a black hole that has a diameter of 2 meters would need to resist the pull of the black hole is 2.11×10^20 joules 😮, which is far beyond town level and this is clearly the situation kenjauku found himself, and we know he was less than a meter or away from the black hole because yuki grabbed his leg. Even if he were standing 80 centimeters away it would still be slightly above what u calculated and if u want to know how I got this calculated. Pretty simple,l have an AI app on my phone called Yes AI. Which I based the question if a 70 kg man stood 50 cm from a black hole of diameter 2 meter s what amount of energy would he need to resist its pull and it gave the result u see up there. So ur calc is literally a low ball, or it's even completely wrong.
@@D.bunk_If i got it right Gearshift doesn’t follow the laws of physics anymore including inertia . Deku could move in zero time like his quintuple smashes
@@BusinessStanderBoybeing really fast doesn’t bypass infinity, you gotta destroy existence itself and not aim at gojo. And Sukuna implies even if he just destroyed existence with dismantle he still wouldn’t get past it he had to stop aiming at gojo
I personally scale JJK to small city - possibly mountain level with highballing and MHS speeds. I just don't see JJK being ftl, High tier JJK characters being FTL is a huge stretch. People claim this due to Sukuna dodging an attack from Kashino that was stated to be an emp which is a (electromagnetic pulse) blast that is not visible to the human eye. It is a burst of electromagnetic radiation that can disrupt or damage electronic equipment and systems, but it does not produce any visible light. From what I see I'm pretty sure these aren't invisible, so ignoring this fact but assuming they're ftl is definitely questionable. Like real physics is not applicable to fiction. Even before this chapter Kashimo smacked Sukuna with a sound based attack and somehow Sukuna was chanting faster than Kashimo's "FTL" attack. There are far too many inconsistencies to justify the JJK top tiers being FTL+. It is far more likely that they're MHS There are plenty of real world examples that can disprove this notion. If someone points a gun at my face and I move outta the way before he pulls the trigger. Does that make me faster than a bullet? If I make a fire and it's warm l'm also using electromagnetic waves to heat it up, that doesn't mean i'm moving as fast as light. I mean mach 1 and mach 3 are considered to be really fast for the JJK verse.
Sukuna dodging EM waves is for sure contentious since like you said, Sukuna could've just dodged where Kashimo was aiming(so at best, it's a reaction feat). Minor thing but the Mach 3 statement is pretty contentious now too. Gege poked fun at how Mach 3 didn't make sense in an author's comment. Even early JJK shows characters reacting to SS attacks. The series probably caps at lightning timers but SS is a low ball as well.
There are no such thing as country level jjk The statement was talking about overtrhowing a country not destroy it The verse doesnt get past small city level
W Debunk but i don't even use those statements/feats to scale jjk so i dont really care. You forgot the actual biggest feat of JJK of the "True Sphere" which scales to high universal. Also naoya and maki reaching mach 3 only is inconsistent since Maki dodged bullets which is calculated already above mach 3. High Uni - FTL is the actual scale of JJK Verse, no less and no more. Gojo's AP and DC scales to 4D due to vaporazing IC. Sukuna dodging Kashimo while being weakened is FTL.
- True Sphere doesn't scale to High Universal. - Pre Awakening Maki reacted to RUBBER BULLETS against Mai, which Mai stated that she's using Rubber bullets in that tournament. Chapter 41 Rubber bullets move at SUBSONIC speed. Mai using rifle gun against Kenjaku and Kenjaku reacted to it. Rifle gun bullets move at Mach 3 at best & Choso piercing blood break the sound barrier. Which is Mach 1. Maki stated that Naoya using his technique is Supersonic, which Maki had a lot of problem with him, until she adapted to him and one shot Naoya. Then Curse Naoya blitz Maki with Mach 3 speed and then Maki finally reach Toji physical stats and was able to react to him. It's consistent with the story. - Sukuna Weakened never reacted to Kashimo electromagnetic waves. He saw the Spark and aim dodge, and then got hit with sound and Lightning attacks at close range. The best feat Gojo have is him travelled to Shinjuku city from Shibuya city in seconds and met Sukuna, Which is Mach 20+ at best, if he used his raw speed. Even tho we can say he teleported to him. Sukuna four arms is near LIGHT SPEED tho. Which could just be 1% of Speed of Light, using Kashimo Lightning attacks. Edit: using Kashimo electromagnetic waves attack, which is a little bit faster than Lightning. And electromagnetic waves for Kashimo, doesn't travel Light Speed, because it's not in a vacuum of space. Something like that. my wording in that last statement is kinda off. Just Google it on the internet.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 Just about everything you said was right besides the electromagnetic wave statement. EM waves travel a little slower than the speed of light on earth, meaning that Sukuna's *aim dodge* at best would make him relativistic at its best if we're being charitable.
1. Use the logic he used for Gojo not scaling to Yuki’s black hole. 2. True ig 3. Horribly wankes 4. False, he destroyed the 3D conditions for the 4D space, the curse itself isn’t a 4D concept or else it wouldn’t be around Toji. 5. He never dodged Kashimo’s EMW while weakened.
Deku,bakugo, shoto, dabi uaraka, toga , gatomachala , nine, endeavour, mirko and thier level is , deku level is star buster , shigaraki level is star+ ,bakugo level is small star, all might level star+ , all for one level is small star, endeavour level is dewarf star+ and star strip level planet buster . They solo 45% of anime and can dust completely jjk, I also love jjk but jjk scaling 50% flaw scaling and finally someone acknowledged the flaw of jjk scaling, jjk fans never accepted that but this is the reality 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
It’s just taking about special grades being able to take over/destroy japan over an extended period of time. It’s not saying they could blow up a country
@@noonespecialtbh there are tons of anti feats that debunks weakened Sukuna being SoL. Sukuna got hit by sound based attack when Beast Amber Kashimo launched his first attack. Also he failed to dodge Jacob's Ladder which is light based attack
Your speed scaling is so absurd gege himself stated that the maki statement was a mistake and gojo unaliving the 1000 curses in 300s doesnt prove anything since unaliving someone takes way more time than just running also he has to look out for humans so he doesnt unalives one by accident
Jjk power system is trash. From day 1 they introduce all these grade levels for all of them to be relevant anything below a special grade is a joke .In the end season one special grade curse spirits other than the disaster curses were basically trash
Im with you about the fact of JJK verse is no planetary level, but there is at least 2 feats that describes it as contry First, is the Gojo declaration saying that an special grade sorcer requires to be able to destroy a country, depending of the traduction this can change, but it would be unlogic if he refers to a military or social level cause Kenjaku could only using special grade curses could defeat the milicy of USA and to be a first grade sorcer you just need to can defeat various special grade curses, so, say that a special grade is equal to a first grade is unlogical Second, Tengen mantain every barrier that hides the schools in all Japan, and youngs Gojo and Geto are supously able to defeat him, also, a very injured Kenjaku could do it Anyway, this was a very great video and logical debunking, if you found something to say that im wrong, pls tell. Sorry if you can't understand something, english is not my mother tongue
@@KnOwnUN01_ As I explained, it changes in every traduction, un spanish at least much says "destruir", that means "destroy" and i already explained why it refers in literal mode
Kenjaku literally stated on panel yuki black hole would have destroy the planet. Even if we look at the radius of event horizon of that black hole it has far more than the mass of earth as if earth was made into black hole it would only be size of golf ball. Kenjaku only survived because of tengen barrier and his own anti gravity technique. Him surviving is mostly due to writer not knowing how black hole works. Still that did not take away anything from black hole. Also black hole don't disappear after destroying town level as it will continue accumulating mass and nothing can stop not even sun the only way to stop them is loss of energy that is in outer space and that can take millions and billions of year depending upon its size. Also there is yorozu perfect sphere which is stated to have infinite density,
I don’t agree with some of this but I do think planetary is a far stretch. But you still can make an argument for it being planetary just gonna say my thoughts. But why sht on jjk and kny when we got naruto, dbz, and csm fans saying some of out landish sht to hype their characters. Tho I won’t say jjk isn’t overhyped and scale I just think why are we targeting jjk specifically when we already have fandoms saying this sht about their verse heck even mhs is overrated and hyped.
I’m not good enough on either dragon ball or Naruto scaling to make an actual debunk of those series. And I honestly didn’t know csm was being overhyped. Plus I’m more of a new gen series scaler so that’s why I go over that more
@@D.bunk_ I am and their overhyping the sht out of featless characters just cause they look cool and powerful, dbz fans always on gokus dk, and naruto fans overhyping their villains to uni or solar System
Creation ≠ stats Also you have to prove to me that other characters have equal ap and don't just say they upscale, yoruzu abilities stats and powers have been well shown that she's only large town level and a lightning timer, you have to prove to me that this isn't an outlier
@@thefarmer6541 it's not creation ≠ stats It's hax ≠ stats There's characters who scale to their creation like the demon king or chaos from the seven deadly sins Anyway I'm not saying she's physically universal (strength, durability...) I'm saying that she have universal level AP via the perfect sphere which something that can one shot even perfect cell and some random kid think she's a fodder
@@thefarmer6541 statistics are stats that you use to prove that one is better than another. being carried by stats is basically you blatantly telling me he is stronger
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This why series need to show more environment destruction than just statements
Hard to use when a character mainly focuses on AP
We are using mirko to solo the verse with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I love miruko BUT she can’t get passed infinite but everyone else is getting one shot 😂
@@sofakingthe2nd286ikr infinity carries
could stars and stripe affect gojo infinity?@@sofakingthe2nd286
I think the only one she doesn’t beat is Gojo since he has infinity . If he turns it off Mirko blitzes him too
Most of the verse not sukuna or gojo
Finally, someone step up to talk about this
Vs battle wiki once thought hakari jackpot was universal+☠️
Lmao 🤣😂
it's stated and implied quite a lot that domain expansions use far more CE than the amount used for CE reinforcement, CT's and attacks imbued with cursed energy. Nearly 0 sorcereres can activate domain expansion multiple times in a day, apart from characters with absolutely massive amounts of CE (sukuna) or characters who have practically infinite amounts (gojo, hakari). So this means if characters did use the same amount of CE for attacks and CE reinforcement they'd only be able to fight for very short amounts of time. Ds characters would easily dodge their maximum of 3 attacks (Most ds humans better stamina feats than jjk humans) and one tap them easily. It's also stated that CT burns out immediately after domain expansion (with yuta, even after a little while, his CT hadnt come back) . In jjk, characters use their cursed techniques multiple times in a fight, one example being mahito and their cursed energy doesn't seem to burn out even after tens of uses. After one domain expansion however, Uro and yuta couldn't use their cursed techniques after one domain expansion. Keep in mind yuta not even that long ago had his cursed energy replenished by rika. Also, there's jogo himself, who right after using domain expansion couldnt use his cursed energy to heal his body (unless beheading slows it down or stops it for curses, as gojo says that beheading can stop RCT for sorcerers at least, idk if it applys to curses since they use CE) after gojo beheaded him. And when he versed sukuna he unleashed multiple massive techniques yet healed pretty fine.
So basically, characters don't scale to their domain in terms of AP and durability. If they did, they'd only throw 2 or 3 punches and get one tapped.
Why are you copy pasting this?
@@BSRejector5613 something I wrote long ago, debunking domain scaling, cause ppl were tryna get jogo to large mountain+ and dagon to mountain. Copied it here cause it seemed fitting
@@jjk4002 ah I see...
Mahito did face cut burn out and that’s why immediately after his domain he didn’t one tap todo and instead landed a black flash. The reason why he probably didn’t last that long though is probably related to his regeneration as a curse, the amo of the black flash and the fact that the burn out never lasts that long anyway as we saw with yuta in Sendai. Like at best, that was minute and a half without it
The reason why Gojo could use his CTs after a domain is because he damaged the part of his brain where CTs get burned out then used RCT to heal it. And the reason why Sukuna could use CTs after his domain is that he swaps between his own techniques and Megumi's techniques, so he's able to use Ten Shadows while his techniques are on cooldown.
Infinity isn’t infinite distance, it’s dividing space infinitely
But maybe infinite speed can surpass it
Dividing a finite space infinitely is still bypassed by infinite speed because you're traveling a finite distance in 0 time
W video. I also want to mention the fact that I don’t even think that domains scale to the persons AP and is just a hax.The reason for this is because that would mean that Dagons AP> Sukuna’s, Jogo’s and Higuruma’s AP. As a reminder Jogo, who was directly stated to be stronger then Dagon can only create a mountain with his domain while Dagon himself can create an island. And don’t even get me started on Sukuna, the guy can only create a shrine with his domain while Higuruma can only create a single room with his. As for the Sukuna being planetary you said everything that I thought but I would like to add that Jjk manga was still new at the time and Gege probably was still not sure how strong he should make the Jjk verse. Plus, because Jjk was new at the time it had a high chance of getting axed so Gege had to grab the readers attention with something to avoid that.
Gojo also quite literally confirms time does indeed pass in the prison realm
Chapter 223, Page 1, Panel 1&2
Ichiji: What was your sense of time like in the prison realm?
Gojou: Hmm... similar to how it feels when work gets extra busy.
Gojou: That contradictory feeling when a week passes in the blink of an eye... and yet, you would never want to do it again.
And Hakari debunks it irrelevant
@@Pinnacle12345 wdym
I don’t understand jjk fanboys, they refuse to accept gojo is the strongest in the verse but every time they power scaling against other verses, they always bringing up how " how no one can bypass infinity " 😭
I mean i don't think deku bypasses infinity 💀💀💀
@@Goofyygoobers granted he probably cant but he has no chance of hitting deku regardless.
Gojo really died to the most basic form of space manipulation
Bro you talk nonsense right? No of us is fanboys
@@xavierdupre6158domain expansion infinite brain rot
You dont have to argue for dagon’s domain at all they just dont scale to their domain’s creations. Gojo’s domain has galaxies in it if that was a rule Gojo would automatically be galaxy level which is obviously not the case if you read the story at all
But you could argue that it’s an actual unlimited void because gojo can replenish his cursed energy
W video and thank you for finally debunking those JJK stans. Damn JJK meatriders are going to be mad.
Kinda surprised people still care about power scalling characters lmao
@@treeandalive1997 yeah power scaling is still very alive
@@treeandalive1997True
@@treeandalive1997believe it or not powerscaling is as big as ever lmao
yuji is star level rn😭
Kinda wished you also went over Sukuna's world slash but overall nice vid.
Brown you are here 😂
Nice to see you ❤
You can't really debunk that
Nothing much to really Debunk around world slash, the concept is simple
The ability targets the space around the target (not the target itself) and with a slash negates their durability that's pretty much it
Anyone with Low-Mid regeneration can just recover from this attack
@@GunshyFeverwe actually dont know if world slash doesn’t prevent healing or not, considering gojo’s injury in theory should be able to be rct-ed, but it doesn’t appear to be able to so far. Obviously, this probably doesn’t apply to other healing abilities
@@greezchum76lawyer dude got 3 of his limbs cut off by Sukuna's world dismantle, and he just regrew them with RCT.
In Gojo's case, Sukuna might have added a bit of knockback to the slash to separate Go and Jo before RCT can reconnect the halves, considering that Gojo's uppers torso fell a couple of steps behind his legs. Sukuna has shown that he can he can regulate the knockback of his slashes.
See, now this makes sense. I don’t even get where people say “Gojo is Planetary” from when he’s shown town level feats. I saw this Superman vs Gojo edit (I know more about Comics than Anime, and I just started watching anime and JJK is my 3rd so far) and people were in the comments saying Gojo is Planetary and one dude said he was Multiversal 💀 ppl like this are the definition of Stupid. Those people seriously need to watch these videos and educate themselves. That goes for any fanbase really.
They are just gojo fangirl don't waste your time on them
Because we don't scale with feats like "One hit - destroys whole fucking Planet"
Gojo pushed a tectonic plate that's why, at least for me, i wouldn't say he for sure can destroy a planet tho
rip JJK scaling 😔
It's over for jjk glazers 😭🙏
Well most of your videos are wrong anyway so...
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE 😭🙏
@@zixn.😭😭lol
Bro really said deku beats superman the delusion is mad crazy💀💀💀😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jjk mfs when their characters cap at city level 😢
Crazy how City Lvl is a lowball
@@AnnyMossyTea *Highball
@@Iianator nah characters like Gojo and Sukuna Casually make City lvl feats.
@@AnnyMossyTea so the strongest in the verse are two mountain lvl mfers?
@@Iianator Nah you can get em higher.
krillin is overkill for the jjk verse ngl
Bro krillian is multi galaxy
krillin literally negs 90% of popular animes
The boy woke up and chose violence
Pretty good vid. Keep up the good work
Would love to see a scaling video from you for my jjk glazing friends
0:03 Glad to see someone sharing the same observation ! This verse have really interesting hax, but honestly some stuff as the speed scaling are too much overrated
I'd be interested in seeing your take on Sukuna vs Shigaraki, seeing as his most common JJK Matchup (Mahito) is generally considered only a win as Shiggy cannot destroy his soul, while Sukuna could be destroyed bodily.
Shigaraki bodies badly
Sukkuna just works slashes gg
If it was pre world slash or Meguna it would have been a good fight
@@greatminikwu9089 Shiggy has super regen, he would just heal the slash lol
@@googoongga sadly sukkuna slashes can be bigger than the human body by far as seen against Kashimo so sadly shigaraki gets erased from reality neg difficulty 😪
Yuki’s black hole would have destroyed the world without Tengen’s help because a black hole the size of a penny could destroy the world and considering Yuki’s was as big as a city block it would to mountains more damage than that. (Not using this to scale Gojo or Sukuna because both of them would die in said situation)
Bro who gives a shit about how the scaling compares to other series, the only thing important is that the scaling is coherent within its own verse compared to a lot of series who are not.
Uhm, every cross verse powerscaler
@@akita.1sAkita? What you doing here
Nice to meet you and love ur content ❤
@@Night-wiseditor appreciate it
This is irrelevant but since (I think) Sukuna used space distortion to break infinity, couldn’t Deku do the same with the space (more accurately, reality) distortion he caused using gearshift?
@Ashuwrath well you’d kinda fuck up space if you ignore physics
Take a black hole for example
gearshift warps reality slightly, but it's not really needed, infinity divides a distance infinitely so a target never reaches gojo based on his brain, his brain analyzes everything automatically to use infinity, if it can't analyze it, it can't stop it, which is how world cutting slash bypassed it, deku who is infinitely faster than gojo would be too fast for gojo to react to, and therefore bypass infinity, all you need to do is be faster than gojos perception
@@gluttonyzonde4132yeah i don't think thats how it works
thats only because he doesn't have to use infinity 24/7
@@irrelevanttroll3312 no, that's how it works. that's also why gojo can't stop gases or poisons with infinity, his brain can't analyze them
@@gluttonyzonde4132 yeah thats not my point
you are saying if speed>Gojo's brain
speed>Infinity
which is false
Gojo invented this automatic system just so he WON't have to constantly use infinity
ofc he still can't stop gases n light
but that doesn't mean being faster bypasses Infinity lmao
Ok I personally think that planetary is also a high ball so I won't address that, but domain expansions are directly stated to be the construction of one's own cursed energy meaning to a degree the scale to it innately, and Even domain, Jogo domain is calculated at essentially Island level and we have Gojo and Sakuna just massively scaling above this even Gojo earthquake has been calc in the island lvls of ranges
Humans have a lot of energy, doesn't mean they can transfer it into a punch.
Domain ≠ output
Thank you for restpring my iq from jjk glazers😭
JJK character
Low ball: city+
Mid ball: mullti city buster
High mid ball: small mountain
High ball: mountain+
Extreme: small island+
Island is literally consistent for high tiers
Saw ppl trying to say that Gojo is relavant in the fire force verse, idk which jjk manga ppl are reading but it's clearly not the one that I read 😂
Maxes at like town in pure AP and MHS at most.
Any other feat higher is creation or hax/ability.
Any other speed feat higher is simply aim dodging or sound dodging.
I just want to say I think jjk does scale to island level and stuff as shown with the domain expansions and stuff but that doesn’t mean they’re gonna put all their energy into one attack and blow up the an island with them on it. Like domain expansions takes up most of a sorcerer’s curse energy and takes time to build up said curse energy. no their casual attacks won’t be blowing up mountains but it’s more like that’s how much energy they have if that makes sense. For example gojo and sukunas fight was casually destroying the city so if they put all their energy in one attack it probably be island plus. However that’s not realistic to do in a fight either.
I can kinda buy into planet level JJK with the whole Yuki black hole (still an outlier) but ive seen unironic universal infinite speed arguments 💀
Still gets negged by Gojo toji > ds verse alone the glazing is crazy
Muzan and Kokoshibo would probably beat Toji pretty easily
This is kinda funny from some one who scales mha to planetary 😂, nice video tho
Those are high ends.
MHA is nowhere near planetary ong, that's just headcanon and glazing by 9-year-old kids
LMFAO THATS SO IRONIC
Planetary is crazy, but MHA does scale above JJK. Planetary tho? 😭where did that come from
@@googoongga They just don’t. JJK is stronger.
Bro jjk fangirls are going to mad as hell💀💀💀
Many of you forget that a special rank is given to those who can safely overthrow governments in countries alone and therefore Scaling will definitely go to the planetary
that is not what planetary means
Overthrow ≠ destroy
@@thefarmer6541 He can destroy too. Try to prove why Gojo can with no problem erase all humanity
@@dremerteam8733 he can't because gojos strongest attack is around city level, it's literally strongest attack possible. Of course gojo can overthrow humanity but wtf does that mean he can teleport and have the infinity so what does this scale mean. He could life wipe earth but that doesn't make him planetary and he needs multiple attacks to do it
@@thefarmer6541 Okay Deku scales as Multi continental. Can he erase whole humanity on Eurasia with one fellow blow?
The DC/AP scaling for JJK definititely took a nosedive for me after Gojo vs Sukuna. All the top tiers are like Small City lvl~Large City lvl. The speed scaling improved though. Gege poked fun at their Mach 3 statement and EM waves/lightning attacks being reacted to in-story does upscale the top tiers(how much depends). And the hax is still good in JJK. I don’t think the verse is fodder(that belongs to Tokyo Revengers or Demon Slayer).
Demon slayer being compared to Tokyo revenger is absolutely wild, even the lower moons solo that verse and they are the low low tiers lol. whereas it would require a high tier from jjk (or mahito) to solo demon slayer.
@@jjk4002 nuh uhh
@@Kashimo_Glazer123realistically the regeneration would be one of the only problems
@@jjk4002mahito is NOT high tier
he's mid tier
@@irrelevanttroll3312 I never said mahito is a high tier, I separated him from the high tiers by putting him by himself.
Jjk fans lack of reading comprehension scales higher than any character in the verse
It doesn't really matter if dagons island is equal to an actual island as domain doesn't equal output, even if dagons can create a whole ass island his actual output isn't even close to that, his output being how much raw energy he can put into his attacks defences and movements, as domain are greater than your actual output
Its the reason hakari doesn't have infinite ap
yeah JJK is just not up there beyond island. It's stupid. The verse caps at high hyper/MHS and city/mountain IMO
Gun devil > 90% of jjk
@@c-moon8426 Nuh uhh
Dont cursed techniques scale to cursed energy
Like how mai has creation technique but can only create a bullet
That would mean yuki had enough cursed energy to pull a black hole off
She mightve used a binding vow tho but sukuna and gojo scale wayyy higher
As a non scaler, that's bad scaling, that doesn't mean yuki has enough to make a black hole, because then that would sukuna and gojo could also, and we know they can't, yuki was literally only able to do that because that's her ACTUAL power.
@@Manicboy8 silly billy 😜
Theres a difference between ap and dc
Gojo and sukuna dont have attacks big enough to drstroy a planet (sukuna arguably does)
Yuki does have an attack like that
@@PankitoEmiya sowwy 😞😞😞😞
That doesn't mean she scales to it. It's quite obvious that the amount of cursed energy she uses for her attacks is FAR FAR less than the cursed energy she needed for the black hole
Why you guys calculate this stuff lmao 😭, we have seen, it was literally stated in the manga, by Kenjaku and Gege themselves, that blackhole would reign destruction on the whole world, no one is safe lmao.
Cause people want reasons to put JJK in crossverse ☠
Mountain level. & light speed gojo
Glazing at full effect
Omni man victim
@@yar351omni man one shot infinite jjk verse at once he litrely destroy planet snd survive actual black hole
yo just me personally the strongest in jjk like gojo and sukuna are country level as a very high highball (kenjaku stating that a special grade can wipe out an entire nation & statement of gojo being able to power the entire U.S with his cursed energy) and in terms of speed, im not rly sure but yea, great vid! I rly like ur content and ur such an underrate powerscaler!
Kenjaku statement is about taking a nation army
@@badroboudjerda4394 the statement was smth like "special grade can overthrow an entire nation" which can be interperted in many ways so its a bit iffy
@@UltimateTH-camr999 yes a nation the only s grade who can single handle destroy a country is yuki via black hole
@@UltimateTH-camr999 the only logical understanding to nation is people
@@badroboudjerda4394 nation can also mean "country" just saying
We using darth vader to solo the verse
vader is overkill.....a universal goat vs a city level verse, only issue is gojo with infinity (maybe sukuna with his DE and technique)
@@dlvldedL the force bypasses limitless. He'd force choke gojo to death or would immediately read gojos mind and figure out about CE and crush his brain killing him instantly
Gojo pushed a tectonic plate just by being unsealed cuzing earthquake across Japan, this isn't large mountain to me, there is a difference between range and scale
@@TaLeNtA696 you don’t need to push tectonic plates to cause shaking. Sing we actually don’t have proof that he was interacting with the tectonic plates we need to use the standard earthquake formula
Even buggy from one piece solos jjk lol 😂😂😂
Can i have some of what you are having?
@@JMM-ke7br besides gojo of course
@@masonmcfadden4886 nah i wouldnt say that. JJK verse fighting is more of a situation type, fire beats leaf and water beats fire type of thing. There are characters that would absolutly cook Buggy while others cant. Example:Yuki, Kashimo, ...
@@JMM-ke7br buggy bomb is more powerful than you think it has like mountain lvl ap
@@JMM-ke7br and buggy dodge kizaru light beam at marine ford
Wait Jjk Fanboys actually believes that Jjk characters are actually planetary? Goddamn...
Prime whiteboard would destroy Gojo with his quake ability which cracks space it was even stated to break through space
It cracks the air, not space itself
Hmmm... I wonder if you might be interested in the likes of Record of Ragnarok (Shinya Umemura & Takumi Fukui), One-Punch Man (Tomohiro), and The Seven Deadly Sins (Nakaba Suzuki).
Some debunk videos of comic book series like The Boys (Garth Ennis) and Invincible (Robert Kirkman), could also be quite interesting in my view.
I can not wait for these guys to try and “debunk” this entire video
Bro your entire verse is a deku/asta victim sit your ass down man, im sorry you guys are city-mountain at the absolute max
Also w video
But daddy gojo has infinity and no one gets past infinity 😢🤓
Your lowball is crazy it’s not even realistic now
I've heard people say Sakuna can beat Naruto lol and even someone say Sakuna can beat Sung Jin Woo, these JJK scalers are fkn delusional.
@jaredhollenbach237 thats actually incorrect daddy sukuna solos all of fiction with dimensional slash and perception blitzes those fodder🤓🤓🤓
Can we just say that manga authors want to make cool moments in their manga and cool statements to make a character seem strong and that power scaling is a cope for those who want to list why their dad is stronger than their friend's dad
nobody cares about "size levels" its about the power of the abilitys nobodyu cares about feats
Saying JJK is a fodder verse is crazy, let me see you doing any feats close to them, Miwa solos you.
???
Wut?
Please be ironic 🙏
Facts, Miwa solos fiction🗿
Miwa solos goku, for real for real
The definition of aerial attacks and range absolutely destroy a power scalers delusion, anyone would be way more powerful if they had a bigger range, that basically ruins the whole point of scales, remember that.
People can still calculate the energy in an attack, sukuna city level but his best feats are multi city block because we found the raw energy of the attack
I wonder if you can make a vid abt debunking gojo’s earthquake
5:20 another reason why this is stupid, a rocket is too far from the center of the earth therefore the gravity is too weak, keny was a couple meters away from the centers of the black hole
@@TaLeNtA696 you aren’t debunking anything. Keny resisting the pull of a black hole is a town level feat, something that I explicitly said in the video. Unless you can make a calculation that shows that Keny would need to be as powerful as a black hole to overpower its pull, your comment means nothing
@@D.bunk_ you serious? If something is pulling the only way to not get pulled is to make a counter force at least as strong as it is so the total amount of force is 0 or applying stronger force to go away from the pull, it's basic physics you know and I'm not saying this to u but to the mha scaling community:"you guys are throwing physics out the window"
@@TaLeNtA696 The town level calc (which I made) is based around calculating the gravitational pull Kenjaku would be experiencing. From that I then simply used the formula for work to calculate how much energy Kenjaku would need to counteract the gravitational pull, and low and behold its town level. But town level is actually an outdated calc, i have an updated version on my discord server (discord.gg/SXCaGKgM3z) which is mountain level. Again, if you disagree then make your own calc. Unless you can do that then realize that you don’t understand power scaling or physics, and move on
0:02 thank god you said "in powerscaling", I was ready to jump on you
😂 u said the amount of energy one would need to resist the force of a black hole is town level. What a joke. For reference, the amount of energy a 70kg person standing 50cm from a black hole that has a diameter of 2 meters would need to resist the pull of the black hole is 2.11×10^20 joules 😮, which is far beyond town level and this is clearly the situation kenjauku found himself, and we know he was less than a meter or away from the black hole because yuki grabbed his leg. Even if he were standing 80 centimeters away it would still be slightly above what u calculated and if u want to know how I got this calculated. Pretty simple,l have an AI app on my phone called Yes AI. Which I based the question if a 70 kg man stood 50 cm from a black hole of diameter 2 meter s what amount of energy would he need to resist its pull and it gave the result u see up there. So ur calc is literally a low ball, or it's even completely wrong.
Quite literally, I've never agreed more with a JJK take in my life.
Is that fking swampy
Bro can you do a bakugo vs sukuna
Chat we’re cooked
But if the verse only maxes at large mountain level can you make a vid properly scaling it?
He probably will, he made a post about it.
@@akita.1shopefully it isn’t a huge downplay
Does infinity slow things or does it make there be an infinite distance I’m confused.
It slows things down with it dividing the distance between gojo and something or someone an infinite amount of times
He slows things down to a point where something with finite speed could never touch him
It brings infinity into reality. As in, the fuucking paradox.
@ivyumi. Limitless can manipulate space
It divides space. Like how you can divide any number infinitely
people fr think Gojo is Allat because of his hax. All he has is hax that’s it. JJK just isn’t Allat
Hey! Quik question, can might guy with 8th inner gate and deku gearshift bypass Infinity by bending space???
And can anyone teleport to touch gojo??
mightguy could prop bypass it by bending space, but not Deku. and teleportation would work if you are teleportation an attack on top of the opponent.
@@D.bunk_Why Deku doesn’t ? Gearshift most basically makes him able to
@@D.bunk_If i got it right Gearshift doesn’t follow the laws of physics anymore including inertia . Deku could move in zero time like his quintuple smashes
@@D.bunk_ Plz debunk some MHA scaling, which imo is as bad as if not worse than JJK scaling
@@BusinessStanderBoybeing really fast doesn’t bypass infinity, you gotta destroy existence itself and not aim at gojo. And Sukuna implies even if he just destroyed existence with dismantle he still wouldn’t get past it he had to stop aiming at gojo
Hey what if yorozu true sphere which makes infinite pressure ? Isn’t that like crazy scaling
It’s just hax
@@D.bunk_ well Yh it is a hax but it still means yorozu has infinite attack potency .it doesnt dis credit that 😪
@@greatminikwu9089no one but her has that sort of attack
@@akita.1s so you’ve admitted she has infinte Ap 😪?
@@greatminikwu9089 with an attack that’s irrelevant and specific to her? Yeah. But even the likes of Tanjiro could dodge it.
I personally scale JJK to small city - possibly mountain level with highballing and MHS speeds.
I just don't see JJK being ftl,
High tier JJK characters being FTL is a huge stretch. People claim this due to Sukuna dodging an attack from Kashino that was stated to be an emp which is a (electromagnetic pulse) blast that is not visible to the human eye. It is a burst of electromagnetic radiation that can disrupt or damage electronic equipment and systems, but it does not produce any visible light. From what I see I'm pretty sure these aren't invisible, so ignoring this fact but assuming they're ftl is definitely questionable. Like real physics is not applicable to fiction. Even before this chapter Kashimo smacked Sukuna with a sound based attack and somehow Sukuna was chanting faster than Kashimo's "FTL" attack. There are far too many inconsistencies to justify the JJK top tiers being FTL+. It is far more likely that they're MHS
There are plenty of real world examples that can disprove this notion. If someone points a gun at my face and I move outta the way before he pulls the trigger. Does that make me faster than a bullet?
If I make a fire and it's warm l'm also using electromagnetic waves to heat it up, that doesn't mean i'm moving as fast as light.
I mean mach 1 and mach 3 are considered to be really fast for the JJK verse.
Sukuna dodging EM waves is for sure contentious since like you said, Sukuna could've just dodged where Kashimo was aiming(so at best, it's a reaction feat). Minor thing but the Mach 3 statement is pretty contentious now too. Gege poked fun at how Mach 3 didn't make sense in an author's comment. Even early JJK shows characters reacting to SS attacks. The series probably caps at lightning timers but SS is a low ball as well.
Kashimo lazer reaction
A domain automatically turns off your CTs after it ends, which leaves the user vulnerable.
What about country level or 4d and 5d jjk you didn't debunk them ?
There are no such thing as country level jjk
The statement was talking about overtrhowing a country not destroy it
The verse doesnt get past small city level
@@Sonyoucef i am not talking about that statement he also didn't debunk 4d and 5d jjk
@@Julian.noa21 4d and 5d jjk💀?
Delusional, jjk glazers are crazy
@@Sonyoucef i didn't say i agree with them just that he should've debunked those too
@@Julian.noa21 Who is out here saying JJK is 4 or 5d? Like there's no need to debunk that whoever said that is a bot
bad debunk
You're underestimating it like you're writing it down as a hater
Lmao, this is a good debunk. JJK is fodder and weak that people need to stop glazing this fodder verse.
No one nowadays glaze jjk and jjk is pretty strong, you hate it so they discredit the feats from the verse @@darkwinter2009
W Debunk but i don't even use those statements/feats to scale jjk so i dont really care.
You forgot the actual biggest feat of JJK of the "True Sphere" which scales to high universal.
Also naoya and maki reaching mach 3 only is inconsistent since Maki dodged bullets which is calculated already above mach 3.
High Uni - FTL is the actual scale of JJK Verse, no less and no more.
Gojo's AP and DC scales to 4D due to vaporazing IC.
Sukuna dodging Kashimo while being weakened is FTL.
thank you for being sensible
😭
- True Sphere doesn't scale to High Universal.
- Pre Awakening Maki reacted to RUBBER BULLETS against Mai, which Mai stated that she's using Rubber bullets in that tournament. Chapter 41
Rubber bullets move at SUBSONIC speed.
Mai using rifle gun against Kenjaku and Kenjaku reacted to it.
Rifle gun bullets move at Mach 3 at best & Choso piercing blood break the sound barrier. Which is Mach 1.
Maki stated that Naoya using his technique is Supersonic, which Maki had a lot of problem with him, until she adapted to him and one shot Naoya.
Then Curse Naoya blitz Maki with Mach 3 speed and then Maki finally reach Toji physical stats and was able to react to him.
It's consistent with the story.
- Sukuna Weakened never reacted to Kashimo electromagnetic waves.
He saw the Spark and aim dodge, and then got hit with sound and Lightning attacks at close range.
The best feat Gojo have is him travelled to Shinjuku city from Shibuya city in seconds and met Sukuna,
Which is Mach 20+ at best, if he used his raw speed.
Even tho we can say he teleported to him.
Sukuna four arms is near LIGHT SPEED tho. Which could just be 1% of Speed of Light, using Kashimo Lightning attacks.
Edit: using Kashimo electromagnetic waves attack, which is a little bit faster than Lightning.
And electromagnetic waves for Kashimo, doesn't travel Light Speed, because it's not in a vacuum of space.
Something like that. my wording in that last statement is kinda off.
Just Google it on the internet.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 Just about everything you said was right besides the electromagnetic wave statement. EM waves travel a little slower than the speed of light on earth, meaning that Sukuna's *aim dodge* at best would make him relativistic at its best if we're being charitable.
1. Use the logic he used for Gojo not scaling to Yuki’s black hole.
2. True ig
3. Horribly wankes
4. False, he destroyed the 3D conditions for the 4D space, the curse itself isn’t a 4D concept or else it wouldn’t be around Toji.
5. He never dodged Kashimo’s EMW while weakened.
0:20 you're literally describing mha tf
They can still destroy some weak characters
(Sorry from bad english)
Deku,bakugo, shoto, dabi uaraka, toga , gatomachala , nine, endeavour, mirko and thier level is , deku level is star buster , shigaraki level is star+ ,bakugo level is small star, all might level star+ , all for one level is small star, endeavour level is dewarf star+ and star strip level planet buster . They solo 45% of anime and can dust completely jjk, I also love jjk but jjk scaling 50% flaw scaling and finally someone acknowledged the flaw of jjk scaling, jjk fans never accepted that but this is the reality 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Raiden Ei solos the verse
Cope harder jjk glazers
Raiden Ei from Genshin Impact?
Omega cap.
@@vanity1180 No, watch the video again
@@darkwinter2009 Yes
I agree minus mahito and sukuna, those could win
Why you pepole undarited jjk 😢 bro jjk power scale it's stronger then anime verse like ds ,mha ...
MHA negs DS & JJK lmao
The meat riding 💀
They neg ds not mha
What about the Country lvl Statmant from Kenjaku?
and a weak Sukuna react on Radio waves= Light Speed = Subrelevistic+ feat?
It’s just taking about special grades being able to take over/destroy japan over an extended period of time. It’s not saying they could blow up a country
Aim dodging mate
Kashimo's EMW contains mass since it's destroying ground which is irrevelant to original EM waves
@@BETA_user7 i didn't even think of that, thanks for another argument against jjk fans
@@noonespecialtbh there are tons of anti feats that debunks weakened Sukuna being SoL.
Sukuna got hit by sound based attack when Beast Amber Kashimo launched his first attack.
Also he failed to dodge Jacob's Ladder which is light based attack
Most overrated behind demon slayer and my hero
W vid personally fine with island level domain since a domain uses more energy than even the strongest attacks.
Fax they need to stop overrating that city lvl verse
W video and scale
Your speed scaling is so absurd gege himself stated that the maki statement was a mistake and gojo unaliving the 1000 curses in 300s doesnt prove anything since unaliving someone takes way more time than just running also he has to look out for humans so he doesnt unalives one by accident
Jjk power system is trash. From day 1 they introduce all these grade levels for all of them to be relevant anything below a special grade is a joke .In the end season one special grade curse spirits other than the disaster curses were basically trash
Im with you about the fact of JJK verse is no planetary level, but there is at least 2 feats that describes it as contry
First, is the Gojo declaration saying that an special grade sorcer requires to be able to destroy a country, depending of the traduction this can change, but it would be unlogic if he refers to a military or social level cause Kenjaku could only using special grade curses could defeat the milicy of USA and to be a first grade sorcer you just need to can defeat various special grade curses, so, say that a special grade is equal to a first grade is unlogical
Second, Tengen mantain every barrier that hides the schools in all Japan, and youngs Gojo and Geto are supously able to defeat him, also, a very injured Kenjaku could do it
Anyway, this was a very great video and logical debunking, if you found something to say that im wrong, pls tell. Sorry if you can't understand something, english is not my mother tongue
Take over a country, not destroy a whole country, that's what they meant
@@KnOwnUN01_ As I explained, it changes in every traduction, un spanish at least much says "destruir", that means "destroy" and i already explained why it refers in literal mode
@@gologod5233 Japanese is the original
5:39 How was this calculated?
Probably take his weight and see the force needed to resist the gravitational pull
Full calcs?
Kenjaku literally stated on panel yuki black hole would have destroy the planet. Even if we look at the radius of event horizon of that black hole it has far more than the mass of earth as if earth was made into black hole it would only be size of golf ball.
Kenjaku only survived because of tengen barrier and his own anti gravity technique. Him surviving is mostly due to writer not knowing how black hole works. Still that did not take away anything from black hole. Also black hole don't disappear after destroying town level as it will continue accumulating mass and nothing can stop not even sun the only way to stop them is loss of energy that is in outer space and that can take millions and billions of year depending upon its size.
Also there is yorozu perfect sphere which is stated to have infinite density,
I never said the black hole isn’t planetary. And I perfectly explained in the video why no one scales to it. And the perfect sphere is just hax
@@D.bunk_ My bad then I thought you scale it to town level and yes nobody scale to it that's true.
It's joever
can make genos vs gojo (adult) who would win
pretty sure gojo still slams due to infinity
Genos can't bypass infinity
I don’t agree with some of this but I do think planetary is a far stretch. But you still can make an argument for it being planetary just gonna say my thoughts. But why sht on jjk and kny when we got naruto, dbz, and csm fans saying some of out landish sht to hype their characters. Tho I won’t say jjk isn’t overhyped and scale I just think why are we targeting jjk specifically when we already have fandoms saying this sht about their verse heck even mhs is overrated and hyped.
I’m not good enough on either dragon ball or Naruto scaling to make an actual debunk of those series. And I honestly didn’t know csm was being overhyped. Plus I’m more of a new gen series scaler so that’s why I go over that more
@@D.bunk_ I am and their overhyping the sht out of featless characters just cause they look cool and powerful, dbz fans always on gokus dk, and naruto fans overhyping their villains to uni or solar System
@@Future_jiraGoku solos 99% of verses though lol, he is bare minimum low multiversal and nonillions of times faster than light.
Can you do luffy vs jjk verse
Fodder verse ?
Yorozu perfect sphere is universal lol
No
Perfect Sphere isn't releasing infinite joules/newtons it got slammed by City level Sukuna
@@BETA_user7 ladies and gentlemen we have a knew clown
Creation ≠ stats
Also you have to prove to me that other characters have equal ap and don't just say they upscale, yoruzu abilities stats and powers have been well shown that she's only large town level and a lightning timer, you have to prove to me that this isn't an outlier
@@thefarmer6541 it's not creation ≠ stats It's hax ≠ stats
There's characters who scale to their creation like the demon king or chaos from the seven deadly sins
Anyway
I'm not saying she's physically universal (strength, durability...) I'm saying that she have universal level AP via the perfect sphere which something that can one shot even perfect cell and some random kid think she's a fodder
gojo still solos 🫸🫷
Shigaraki still wins
@@akita.1s you're gonna be in a chokehold buddy
@@Copiium..I will touch you
@@Copiium..so scary lol
And he became Go/jo
jjk characters when no hax 😭😭😭😭😭 city level fodders
😆 So true.
Dawg, hax are supposed to carry. Its like saying Luffy is carried by his DF or Deku is carried by his Quirk :Sob
@@JMM-ke7br wtf bro 😭😭 those are just normal abilities bro thats not finding a way to get rid of the effects of your actions
Yeah and Goku carried by his stats,
@@thefarmer6541 statistics are stats that you use to prove that one is better than another. being carried by stats is basically you blatantly telling me he is stronger
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Nah man sorry
They cap at city lvl in my opinion
Agreed.
🤡🤡🤡bruuuh
Fr 0:01
Deku just blitzes.
Rip to JJK scaling.
Jjk cap at continental and that’s like top 3-5
Nobody from Jjk passes Town level, let alone City level and higher(Besides Yuki's black hole ofc, and still, she doesn't even scale to it)
@@Someone-dg8qt I never said she does I’m saying the jjk verse is weak but that is down play on a whole other lvl
@@WISTSU Their island level at best 💀
@@BSRejector5613 sure buddy
@@WISTSU What? You got proof? Show it to me then 🗣🗣