Ugh…. Chinese made, plan for a very short!!! Lifespan. The Greenstalk is made in Tennessee- a family endeavor- we need to do our BEST to support made in USA products!
I have the same Vivosun planter and it stays on my deck year round winter and summer (I live in Canada) . I've had it for three years and it's still as good as the first day year I used it. I do cover it for the winter as it gets piled with snow but it's still going strong. I also have 2 Garden Tower 2's and they are awesome but I would like to buy a Green stalk to try them out.
I love my Greenstalk planters. The extra money you spend for the wheeled spinner base is worth it every penny. I roll mine in the garage when a prolonged hard freeze is expected. It is also great when you want the move it out of the blazing sun in August.
Thank you for this video. I’m a visual learner so to see these in real life makes a difference for me. I like the watering convenience of the big one and after seeing it with all the available space, it seems like a great value. I don’t love plastic but there would be no way to handle the tower if it was made of a natural substance and as a space saver, it’s has its value.
The irrigation system for the Greenstalk that was released last year was a gamechanger. I live in the desert where it hits 115-120 in the summer. It's nice to know that my tower gets watered throughout the day even when I'm at work.
Thank. you for sharing this comparison. I have the $1.25 tree version my husband picked up for me a few years back, and they work okay, yet I really appreciate you sharing this comparisons.
Hi. I cover the drain holes with mosquito mesh, and wrap around it with waterproof tape. Water flows freely, and no soil gets thru that would clog the holes.😊
You need the stand with the rollers on it, so you can move the planter around. That way it can get sun to all plants easily. This is my third year planting in mine. You will be removing soil as you go so the plants will fit. I really enjoy mine. It looks as good as when I first bought it. Mine was so top heavy last year that the strong winds blew it over. I got it back together again, and the plants survived and kept growing and going.my son in law put a piece of rebar through it this year, but I’m hoping it doesn’t interfere with the watering system.
I just got my first Greenstalk and also got the rotating base and the roller along with it. Will be nice to rotate it towards the sun whenever it needs it.
Hi ! Great comparison between the 2 products ! 🤣 I bought the one on the right! I am only going to use each one for lettuce and spinach! So they will be perfect and a perfect size ! I will be putting them on plastic chairs outside ! No bending ! I usually grow in buckets from the dollar store, so this was right up my alley ! 🤣🤣🤣! Thank you for the great comparison! Looks are deceiving ! But so was the price 😆! Happy Gardening 💞
Could you do a video of what your growing? Would be good to see veggies and herbs that are more mature. I'm debating on getting a stackable garden. Thanks for the demo!
The little ones are what I but herbs in by my back door just outside the kitchen. That way if I need an herb for a recipe I’m not having to run all the way to the garden. The green stalks are in the garden with my raised beds. I put rebar post in the ground around my green stalk to keep them from blowing over as I live in Florida and well we get strong winds. The small ones I put out in the garden I put flowers to help bring the honey bees in to pollenate the other plants. I have bee keepers all around me and their bees help my garden.
On a deck...you'll want some type of platform to keep the water and soil off you deck underneath the first tier. Greenstalk sells different types. Lighter type soils are better to allow water to drain better top to bottom (ultimate spinner w/or w/o wheels), also so you can rotate your plant sun/shade. Your soil seems very dense. Also, consider lid for water reservoir to keep leaves/dirt out.
I'd think you could get two, or maybe even three, of the little ones and comhine them to make one big one. It would be tippy, but given that it's already made to have a chain going through it, you could get a longer length of chain and use that to stabilize it. Likely not the most practical solution for many people, it's just the perspective of someone who loves to tinker with stuff.
I just ordered a GreenStalk and read several different reviews about some of these vertical towers before ordering. Several people said the less expensive towers did not water the lower tiers well. By the time the water dripped to the layers below, the water source was exhausted and the lower tiers of the planter had to be hand watered. The GreenStalk system had better reviews about the water making it all the way to the bottom layers of the tower. I am curious to see how your experience compares. I am looking forward to receiving my GreenStalk and appreciate the info.
There shouldn't be any surprise in the size of the Vivisun planter. The product description ssys roughly 12" x 12" x 24". Mr Stacky might have been a better comparison. Thank you for the video.
Different products, different purposes. I know people who use both. If you are ever unsure of the plastic quality spray paint for UV protection. I've had items last 10 years with proper protection.
Chain may be to slow the water on its way to bottom. I have a chain from my roof gutter to garden that help water my clematis climbing plant. Does the chain go down the centre watering hole. Just an idea.
There is one very important thing to know about the GreenStalk. It is a plastic that doesn’t leech into your soil, so if you want to plant “ food” products, not a good idea to put them into the cheap, China product. Flowers will probably be fine in the cheaper one.
Each tier of the Greenstalk takes one 40-pound bag of soil? Yikes! It looks cool, though, and I'm very interested but I'm crunching some numbers for it!
That last shot of the comparison is all you need to see the difference. I dont think either are good for pepper plants. Mine grow up to 4ft tall and would flop over and out of both.
@grassrootsgardening Another thing you may want to try is the Aerogarden. It's a compact hydroponics system that can be kept on a small countertop. I thought those were useless, but I have changed my mind. I have two; the sprout and the harvestxl. I have found each has their strengths. The sprout is great for sprouting seeds and growing short plants like salad. The harvestxl grows taller plants like basil. I have a basil plant that is one year old in there, that has seeded twice, and I am starting the next generation before I remove it. I have to say, in the end, you could have three 2 feet plants in the harvestxl before there are too many roots in the water tank. There is nothing like fresh Genovese Basil all year round. I have wondered how the Amazon knock-off compares, too.
For $150, which is more than 'Greenstalk' would have charged you for that planter, you didn't get the SPINNING BASE that comes with it & the OVERFLOW tubing! Pretty sure the component to 'secure' the other product's CHAIN was probably in the bag and the chain itself was intend to be strung through ALL the planters.
The spinning base costs extra from Greenstalk and the tubing comes with that base. You can get the bundle that comes with the Greenstalk planter, the spinning base, the tube, and the wheels for around $200 plus it also comes with a support for trellising plants
The most important thing is, is not to use potting soil. It needs a mix. I have 3 greenstalks that’s I’ve had for 3+ years. Where’s your base? Buy the spinner base and wheels.
You’re not supposed to put that kind of soil in the GreenStalk planters. The company recommends the pro mix and that’s what I’ve always used in my potted plants, and it works beautifully for these green stalk planters. You end up with a lot of problems if you have heavy soil .
Funny you said that. Others have said the same thing and I thought it was right. So I got the pamphlet that came with my new Greenstalk that isn’t put together yet. It says in Step 1, Potting Mix or Potting Soil. Don’t compress. Soils differ and are heavier than Mix. Use lighter soil or add perlite if possible. Potting Mix is preferred.
@@rosemarythyme8595 You said not to use that kind of soil. The company pamphlet that comes in the GreenStalk says to use potting mix or potting soil. How is he not using the right soil. He shows the front of the bag and it says organic potting soil. All potting soils are not equal. So yes, I prefer the Mix. But he did not use garden soil.
sorry - not a good tutorial for filling the greenstalk. Use lightweight, porous growing mix, don't compact it and it's important not to get soil in each of the reservoirs or the drain holes will get clogged and not let the water through. There are better tutorials out there to help succeed with growing in a greenstalk. I do appreciate the comparison between brands, but as a demonstration for setting up a greenstalk, don't recommend. One cubic foot of a lightweight potting mix in each layer won't be nearly as heavy, either.
So would you say most all planters need a lighter soil mix? Not just stackable? Also, I understand your sentiment about tutorials, at least you explained why, but kind of a blanket statement. Each person has their own way some with little experience, and some downright boring. I’ve learned to move along without comment generally yet I have moments when I see misinformation and wish to correct. Most just don’t care or don’t bother with finer details. I endeavor to come across as kind at least but here it’s difficult. Why dont you do one?🙏🏻🤔
That wasn’t rude at all. Actually, it was a great “making mistakes and fixing them,” video. I just received my GreenStalk and ready to make and fix my own mistakes. 😊 Everyone watches more than one video for different views and options. I just ordered the bottom spinner and mover. I love imperfect videos for a big dose of reality. Return email notifications are not available at this time.
Considering how much you'd pay for a plastic planter of each size, it seems like a reasonable price. You'd pay much more for 5 individual planters, plus the watering pans.
Im not impressed with greenstalk vertical growers...have two with all the accessories...what ive learned is you extremely limited with what you can grow in them. Useless for tomatoes cucumbers broccoli large radishes like daikon or any root vegetable..because the process of removing root vegetables are extremely difficult and physically intensive. Also if you dont have them in complete sunlight only a portion of your items will grow...the bottom container will suffer. Additionally mine fell over became the weight over time compressed the paver and u balanced the grower...it fell completely over! What a disappointment disastrous disaster!... also depending on what you put in them these things get extremely rootbound....which eventually forces you to redo them....these suckered are extremely heavy to move and pick up after you fill them....all this to say....imo its only good for herbs..nothing more...garden beds are the eay to go if you want to truly grow vegetables
Ugh…. Chinese made, plan for a very short!!! Lifespan. The Greenstalk is made in Tennessee- a family endeavor- we need to do our BEST to support made in USA products!
The family is super nice, and they build a great product!!
I have the same Vivosun planter and it stays on my deck year round winter and summer (I live in Canada) . I've had it for three years and it's still as good as the first day year I used it. I do cover it for the winter as it gets piled with snow but it's still going strong. I also have 2 Garden Tower 2's and they are awesome but I would like to buy a Green stalk to try them out.
I love my Greenstalk planters. The extra money you spend for the wheeled spinner base is worth it every penny. I roll mine in the garage when a prolonged hard freeze is expected. It is also great when you want the move it out of the blazing sun in August.
Love mine too!
Plugging the hole, was probably the best idea I've seen in videos about the greenstalk....lol nicely done.
Thanks 👍
Thank you for this video. I’m a visual learner so to see these in real life makes a difference for me. I like the watering convenience of the big one and after seeing it with all the available space, it seems like a great value. I don’t love plastic but there would be no way to handle the tower if it was made of a natural substance and as a space saver, it’s has its value.
Glad it was helpful! I am taking some plants home today from the nursery to get it all planted up. Thanks for watching!
This is great for anyone, but especially people who need an alternative for space or physical reasons.
Hey, Star I totally agree Im excited to plant it up soon and see how it grows. Hope you are doing well!
The irrigation system for the Greenstalk that was released last year was a gamechanger. I live in the desert where it hits 115-120 in the summer. It's nice to know that my tower gets watered throughout the day even when I'm at work.
Very cool!
That is the question I was wondering about does it help in the desert?
I liked the tip on lining up the drain holes with each pocket. Many will miss that tip 👊🏻🌻👊🏻
Thanks for watching!!
Oh crap! I totally missed that, I need to fix that tomorrow. I would've missed that in the video too. Thanks for mentioning that! 😅
Thank. you for sharing this comparison. I have the $1.25 tree version my husband picked up for me a few years back, and they work okay, yet I really appreciate you sharing this comparisons.
Like you said they were OK, I sure do love this greenstalk! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I sure appreciate you!
So great that you did this comparison video!! I’m saving up for the Green-stalk vertical planter for SURE!
Thanks for the kind words. The green stalk is awesome, you’ll love it!
They have a great sale every year for mothers day.
I'm sure you will enjoy this Greenstalk the only suggestion is to purchase the Greenstalk base it comes with wheels
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching!!
Turntable and wheels are game changers!
Hi. I cover the drain holes with mosquito mesh, and wrap around it with waterproof tape. Water flows freely, and no soil gets thru that would clog the holes.😊
Great tip!
You need the stand with the rollers on it, so you can move the planter around. That way it can get sun to all plants easily.
This is my third year planting in mine. You will be removing soil as you go so the plants will fit. I really enjoy mine. It looks as good as when I first bought it. Mine was so top heavy last year that the strong winds blew it over. I got it back together again, and the plants survived and kept growing and going.my son in law put a piece of rebar through it this year, but I’m hoping it doesn’t interfere with the watering system.
Thanks for sharing!
I have three greenstalks. A secret I learned was to put something over the opening for overvlow water that connects to the tier above it.
Great advice thank you!!
I’m in love with your yard and am researching vertical growing towers but subbed so I can enjoy your yard.
Awesome! Thank you!
I just got my first Greenstalk and also got the rotating base and the roller along with it. Will be nice to rotate it towards the sun whenever it needs it.
The spinning base it almost a must have!
Thanks for this video. The side-by-side comparison was super useful for making my decision on what one to buy!
Really glad it was helpful for you - thanks for watching!
Thank you, I now know which one to buy. Your video made my choice easy.
Good choice!
Wow!!! What a contrast! Thank you for this
My pleasure!
Love my green stalk!! Planning on ordering another one soon!!
They are awesome!!
That........ Is small. I think that's the one I was looking at, too. Thank you for steering me away from such a small planter. I need room for roots!
It’s OK for herb and flowers. Thank you for watching!
Great comparison! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Hi ! Great comparison between the 2 products ! 🤣
I bought the one on the right! I am only going to use each one for lettuce and spinach! So they will be perfect and a perfect size ! I will be putting them on plastic chairs outside ! No bending ! I usually grow in buckets from the dollar store, so this was right up my alley ! 🤣🤣🤣! Thank you for the great comparison! Looks are deceiving ! But so was the price 😆! Happy Gardening 💞
Great idea!!
Could you do a video of what your growing?
Would be good to see veggies and herbs that are more mature.
I'm debating on getting a stackable garden.
Thanks for the demo!
I’ve got a couple videos showing what we grew in it. Won’t be long and I’ll be planting it for spring 👍👍
I filled my Greenstalk with strawberries. Works great for them!!
@@hmmm..2733 Agree, strawberries would be great for these and herbs.
Love this video… well done!
Thanks so much!
The little ones are what I but herbs in by my back door just outside the kitchen. That way if I need an herb for a recipe I’m not having to run all the way to the garden. The green stalks are in the garden with my raised beds. I put rebar post in the ground around my green stalk to keep them from blowing over as I live in Florida and well we get strong winds. The small ones I put out in the garden I put flowers to help bring the honey bees in to pollenate the other plants. I have bee keepers all around me and their bees help my garden.
awesome!
On a deck...you'll want some type of platform to keep the water and soil off you deck underneath the first tier. Greenstalk sells different types. Lighter type soils are better to allow water to drain better top to bottom (ultimate spinner w/or w/o wheels), also so you can rotate your plant sun/shade. Your soil seems very dense. Also, consider lid for water reservoir to keep leaves/dirt out.
Thanks for the tips! Appreciate you watching
Those are all great tips, some perlite would be helpful. Thanks
I'd think you could get two, or maybe even three, of the little ones and comhine them to make one big one. It would be tippy, but given that it's already made to have a chain going through it, you could get a longer length of chain and use that to stabilize it.
Likely not the most practical solution for many people, it's just the perspective of someone who loves to tinker with stuff.
Cool idea, thanks for sharing!
Should tape up center watering pole. He's been dropping dirt in the whole. This will plug it up. Might have to take apart to clear dirt.
Thought I did
@grassrootsgardening look at you're recording. Sorry but you need to tell people
I just ordered a GreenStalk and read several different reviews about some of these vertical towers before ordering. Several people said the less expensive towers did not water the lower tiers well. By the time the water dripped to the layers below, the water source was exhausted and the lower tiers of the planter had to be hand watered. The GreenStalk system had better reviews about the water making it all the way to the bottom layers of the tower. I am curious to see how your experience compares. I am looking forward to receiving my GreenStalk and appreciate the info.
You’ll love the Greenstalk, they build a quality product!
This is really useful thanks. I'm considering buying a Greenstalk.
They’re awesome!
@@grassrootsgardeningI now have two and reserved a third one.
I had the vivosun planter. It was a great product. I gave it away as I moved but I loved it. You don't use the chain with more than 3 levels.
Yes, I think it will work fine for a small flowers and herbs. Thank you for watching!
There shouldn't be any surprise in the size of the Vivisun planter. The product description ssys roughly 12" x 12" x 24". Mr Stacky might have been a better comparison. Thank you for the video.
Thanks
Do they come with black holes to facilitate gravitational lensing? If not, how does light get to the back?
Spin it around
I believe the smaller stack was meant for the chain to come up from the bottom ??
I think you’re right
@@grassrootsgardening ...can't imagine hanging it though....maybe it's for keeping it secured...who knows 🤣
Different products, different purposes. I know people who use both. If you are ever unsure of the plastic quality spray paint for UV protection. I've had items last 10 years with proper protection.
Good tip!
Chain may be to slow the water on its way to bottom. I have a chain from my roof gutter to garden that help water my clematis climbing plant. Does the chain go down the centre watering hole. Just an idea.
Great point!
There is one very important thing to know about the GreenStalk. It is a plastic that doesn’t leech into your soil, so if you want to plant “ food” products, not a good idea to put them into the cheap, China product. Flowers will probably be fine in the cheaper one.
Good point!
Judging by Volume size I would say they seem to be the same value. I would probably go with green stalk.
Green stalk is way better, thanks for watching!
Each tier of the Greenstalk takes one 40-pound bag of soil? Yikes! It looks cool, though, and I'm very interested but I'm crunching some numbers for it!
Totally worth it!
Wait for a sale. That’s what I did. Miracle grow potting soil in 2 liter size for 9.99 each. Fills two sections
The larger planter is to tall for a wheel cair bounty person but 3 tiers would work ♥️
Still can plant a lot with only 3 tiers. 👍👍
That last shot of the comparison is all you need to see the difference.
I dont think either are good for pepper plants. Mine grow up to 4ft tall and would flop over and out of both.
Gonna try this summer!
@grassrootsgardening Another thing you may want to try is the Aerogarden. It's a compact hydroponics system that can be kept on a small countertop. I thought those were useless, but I have changed my mind. I have two; the sprout and the harvestxl. I have found each has their strengths. The sprout is great for sprouting seeds and growing short plants like salad. The harvestxl grows taller plants like basil. I have a basil plant that is one year old in there, that has seeded twice, and I am starting the next generation before I remove it. I have to say, in the end, you could have three 2 feet plants in the harvestxl before there are too many roots in the water tank. There is nothing like fresh Genovese Basil all year round.
I have wondered how the Amazon knock-off compares, too.
I am Duncan Maina in Nyahururu kenya. I would like to how much it would cost and how to get it.
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Garden Answer uses Green Stalk.
Yeah, she’s got a bunch of them!
For $150, which is more than 'Greenstalk' would have charged you for that planter, you didn't get the SPINNING BASE that comes with it & the OVERFLOW tubing! Pretty sure the component to 'secure' the other product's CHAIN was probably in the bag and the chain itself was intend to be strung through ALL the planters.
👍👍
The spinning base costs extra from Greenstalk and the tubing comes with that base. You can get the bundle that comes with the Greenstalk planter, the spinning base, the tube, and the wheels for around $200 plus it also comes with a support for trellising plants
The most important thing is, is not to use potting soil. It needs a mix. I have 3 greenstalks that’s I’ve had for 3+ years. Where’s your base? Buy the spinner base and wheels.
Yes, the spinning base with wheels is awesome!
Don't forget to remove the plastic hole plugs you put in the self watering system. (I'm sure you remembered to remove the plastic)
Yes, I removed them. Thanks.
😁
I like the smaller one better
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If my math is right, you have 30 grow pods on the big one vs 15 on the dinky one.
I'm taking home some veggies today to plan in it, I think its gonna work great.
I would like to buy one of those little cheap planters to put my annual flowers in to attract more bees and butterflies.
They would be great for that!!
You should have cover the irrigation hole with plastic then uncover it
Thought I did
You’re not supposed to put that kind of soil in the GreenStalk planters.
The company recommends the pro mix and that’s what I’ve always used in my potted plants, and it works beautifully for these green stalk planters.
You end up with a lot of problems if you have heavy soil .
Appreciate the comment. They are doing phenomenal though!😀
❤Awesome!! Good to know. I’ve just heard and saw videos of others having issues by using other soil.
Funny you said that. Others have said the same thing and I thought it was right. So I got the pamphlet that came with my new Greenstalk that isn’t put together yet. It says in Step 1, Potting Mix or Potting Soil. Don’t compress.
Soils differ and are heavier than Mix. Use lighter soil or add perlite if possible. Potting Mix is preferred.
@@sjs9354 the keyword is “potting” soil not garden soil that’s what you wanna stick with.
@@rosemarythyme8595 You said not to use that kind of soil. The company pamphlet that comes in the GreenStalk says to use potting mix or potting soil. How is he not using the right soil. He shows the front of the bag and it says organic potting soil. All potting soils are not equal. So yes, I prefer the Mix. But he did not use garden soil.
Water is likely supposed to go down the chain like a gutter chain.
good thinking!
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You can't use that heavy soil, you may break it down
It worked fine all season
I was dissatisfied with the limitation of what you can plant in the tower. Plus the watering system is not that good.
Sorry you don’t like it but I love mine!
sorry - not a good tutorial for filling the greenstalk. Use lightweight, porous growing mix, don't compact it and it's important not to get soil in each of the reservoirs or the drain holes will get clogged and not let the water through. There are better tutorials out there to help succeed with growing in a greenstalk. I do appreciate the comparison between brands, but as a demonstration for setting up a greenstalk, don't recommend. One cubic foot of a lightweight potting mix in each layer won't be nearly as heavy, either.
Sorry, thanks for watching
So would you say most all planters need a lighter soil mix? Not just stackable? Also, I understand your sentiment about tutorials, at least you explained why, but kind of a blanket statement. Each person has their own way some with little experience, and some downright boring. I’ve learned to move along without comment generally yet I have moments when I see misinformation and wish to correct. Most just don’t care or don’t bother with finer details. I endeavor to come across as kind at least but here it’s difficult. Why dont you do one?🙏🏻🤔
I found it really useful
That wasn’t rude at all. Actually, it was a great “making mistakes and fixing them,” video. I just received my GreenStalk and ready to make and fix my own mistakes. 😊 Everyone watches more than one video for different views and options. I just ordered the bottom spinner and mover. I love imperfect videos for a big dose of reality. Return email notifications are not available at this time.
@@sjs9354 that’s good!!!🙏🏻❤️
There's no comparison. Chalk and cheese.
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more than half the video spent on green stalk not a true comparison
Thanks for watching!
$150 was too much for plastic
I know its an initial investment, but you can grow a ton of plants in a small space and it'll last for years.
Considering how much you'd pay for a plastic planter of each size, it seems like a reasonable price. You'd pay much more for 5 individual planters, plus the watering pans.
I love that rocking chair❤
@@maryl8753 thanks, I worked real hard to recondition it!😀
Im not impressed with greenstalk vertical growers...have two with all the accessories...what ive learned is you extremely limited with what you can grow in them. Useless for tomatoes cucumbers broccoli large radishes like daikon or any root vegetable..because the process of removing root vegetables are extremely difficult and physically intensive. Also if you dont have them in complete sunlight only a portion of your items will grow...the bottom container will suffer. Additionally mine fell over became the weight over time compressed the paver and u balanced the grower...it fell completely over! What a disappointment disastrous disaster!... also depending on what you put in them these things get extremely rootbound....which eventually forces you to redo them....these suckered are extremely heavy to move and pick up after you fill them....all this to say....imo its only good for herbs..nothing more...garden beds are the eay to go if you want to truly grow vegetables
I guess there’s a correct application for items like these. I respect your opinion, but I love mine! Thanks for sharing your experience
Is that one of those never ending "treadmill" pools?
Yes, I love that thing!
I guess you could grow herds and flowers in smaller one greenstalk does look deeper for root and more growth
Yes, I’m sure it would work well for that!