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you took all these golfers and some Phil Jackson.. You could go for Shaq and other guys who failed when they were facing free throw shooting :) But anyway really great topic :)
I'm unsubscribing because I know youre not going to mention her brother being the reason she didn't perform.....her brother was involved with some big time drug Lords and he screwed them over and they want their stuff back and they made legit threats towards her and the rest of the fam
Happened to me a while ago so I did some research and found out there's a thing called 'Lost Move Syndrome', which is "a psychological condition in which athletes find themselves unable to perform a skill that was previously automatic". I've been doing flips on a trampoline for pretty much all my life, one time I wanted to do a triple full (which was no effort usually) and my body somehow went for a double flip mid twisting. Scared the shit out of me. After that I couldn't triple anymore, took a little break and later that day I even forgot how to do a simple backflip... Took months to even get a single full again and start building from there. It finally took me more than a year to get back to my previous level. This also happened a second time which thankfully only took me 3 weeks to recover from. For me it definitely was a lack of confidence and overthinking everything, which made me try to do the flips 'manually' instead of on 'auto pilot' and that doesn't work.
Been doing parkour since 2012 and in 2017, I've seen myself slowly "decaying" as I was losing all my flips, the first was the backflip (which I used to do everyday, on every ground), then sideflip. It's been 5 years that I can't do a single flip on hard ground, and it hurts (I mean for the self-esteem as all my friends keep progressing) so much I had to stop. But your story has motivated me to get back to it. Thanks !
this happened to me after i landed on my neck doing a double twist. took me a year to get it back. when trying to perform it again (while the ability is still missing) it was just a blank sheet in my mind, i couldnt figure out how twisting worked in my head.
Ive done gtramp for 5 years and I know exactly what its like. The feeling when you lose all sense of awareness in the middle of a flip, nothing beats that fear. I went from doing quads to barely doing doubles nowadays.
I had a similar experience when I was younger. Im a gymnast and one time when I was learning a front tuck with a half out I messed up and it ruined all of my front tumbling completely. I couldnt even do a regular front tuck, I'd either pull out and couldn't make myself do it or I automatically accidentally did a scary and poor tucked half twist. Eventually after like 6 months I got my front tuck back by building all the way back up from a forwards roll. It took ages to build the confidence back but now my front tumbling is far more comfortable than backwards
I'm a pro guitar player and stuggle with focal dystonia. It stalled my career for years. For anyone suffering from this stuff the best explanation I've ever heard is from an expert named Ruth Chiles. I have a bandmate who got the dreaded focal dystonia and with all the info that's out there now, was able to get over it in a little under a year!
The first time I read about focal dystonia was in an article on Billy McLaughlin. He was an amazing fingerstyle guitarist and could no longer perform the pieces he wrote and played for years. After a lot of therapy an training, he switched to playing left handed. He had to start all over. Now he's even better than he use to be.
@@Greybruh rock solid my man. Keep calling our this mental fomo social media brought upon us. 'I am a professional fish wrangler and my ceo of my electric car company and my sisters mother in law all suffer from lying dystonia.'
I was a gymnast for 16 years. I struggled with the "Twisties" too and it totally destroyed my chances of going on to higher level competition. It's sad for sports like golf and baseball, but in gymnastics, if you twist when you don't mean to, you could seriously injur yourself. I was happy to see Simone Biles blow up when this happened because this condition deserves more recognition. People used to just tell me "don't twist", like it was just that easy
Damn, what gymnasts are you around? My sisters have been in gymnastics since they could walk and continued into their mid teens. Both had twisties at one point and it was taken pretty seriously, especially for my younger sister who competed at a high level.
I was a gymnast for 14 years. One day I came in, everything normal, untill I had to do a front flip. Just a normal front flip. I just could not land on my feet no matter what. Under rotate, over rotate, on floor an a trampoline, all the same. The coach thought I was messing with him as I could land everything else normally. This went on for about 4 weeks, when one day I landed normally and it was like a skill being switched back on. After that the problem thankfully never reoccurred
@@baguette6969 It's absolutely nuts, and I think it's something a person can't truly understand unless they unfortunately go through it themselves. I would literally inadvertantly throw twists in the middle of double flipping elements. I would also just lose certain skills randomly, some of them I spent years trying to recover and never got them back. It blows my mind how you can spend years perfecting a skill, only to have it magically disappear right before your eyes.
I am by no means a psychologist but this is what it sounds like to me. When you overthink something, specifically a physical action, you're using your conscious brain to "manually" control every movement which you often can't keep up with. When you're in a flow state, a lot of work is being done by your subconscious/unconscious which I guess has a lot more processing power. It's like when you're conscious that you're breathing - you can never quite get your breathes right because you're used to it being controlled by your subconscious and you're not actually consciously that familiar with the process.
but the question is why after decades of training this happens SUDDENLY and is irreversible. people don't manage to just get out of it like normal. i sometimes get caught up with breathing or walking yea, but eventually my brain clicks back into place and i can do it fine again. this is not possible for these athletes
@@reidleblanc3140 I thought the same as Gerg, and what you point out may be bc they cannot go back to subconcious processes, I mean each time they try it again, since there's the fear of "it" coming back, selfconciousness hits and "it" happens again. I think a way to disprove this hypothesis is to know if any of these athletes went through a "non-selfconciousness" training and failed. Also, since proprioception is linked with memory, and we all know we can have memory problems, then it could also be a proprioception memory problem.
The mental 'flip' happens because the flow state is disrupted by the awareness of what's at stake. It could happen from not having enough mental strength, lack of focus in challenging situations.. and could even be from gluten intolerance - no joke, there's plenty of literature on it. It's a growing epidemic in mental health. Read 'Grain Brain' by neurologist Dr. David Perlmutter. I also think that the more modern culture of "expressing one's feelings" has reduced an individual's mental practice and ability to create an internal mental boundary between the task at hand and any strong new emotions that may arise in a particular high stress circumstance. Which has also led to a rise in ADHD and similar disorders.
I been doing parkour for almost 12 years already and like a year ago and out of sudden I totally forgot how to do a cork while I was practicing how to dub cork. It took me like 6 months to get my cork back cause I had to go through the basis once again until I had the confidence to do it. Now I know what it was thanks Jimmy!
You've essentially renamed the phenomenon of "choking", also often described as "thinking too much". However, it's a bit more complicated than simply "thinking too much". What accompanies racing thoughts and too much thinking is fear, anxiety, and the threat of shame. Thinking alot is not inherently bad, but it tends to happen when athletes or performers begin to question their abilities and their self-worth. Losing their craft would essentially result in a loss of self-worth AKA shame, because their sport or ability is the primary foundation upon which they've built their lives. Their minds then anxiously monitor and anticipate movements that were once "free-flowing", "natural", and "second-nature", and movements suddenly becomes "rigid", "awkward", and "segmented". They could be the most skilled of athletes or virtuosos, but if their lives' are built on the shaky, unstable, and waning foundations of ephemeral talents and constantly straining toward the highest of standards---their uncertainty and volatility will show in their movements.
It isn’t choking, it’s mental. A good example is Chuck Knoblach or however you spell it. Chuck was a perennial all-star on his way to the HOF. He was a second baseman and couldn’t throw to first base, the easiest throw you can make at his position. The more you think of accuracy, the worse your throws.
I have a gymnast child. It made me sick to see all the hate Simone got. People just dont understand. Its not like playing golf in a bad state of mind and just embarrassing yourself.
Lewis Hamilton: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Tyson Fury: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Ronaldo: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Serena Williams: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Even the blind can see Simone is proving a point only. Total unsportsmanship.
@@marvinracer88 It’s not illegal, it’s for her adhd, that she’s been taking since she was a child. It’s just illegal in some other countries(including japan). Also, as far as I’m aware the William sisters have never been caught doping, unlike numerous Russian athletes.
I defo sometimes suffer from performance anxiety, pissed me off so much. How i got over it (kind of) is i stopped caring about how i looked, i stopped caring about letting others down and i just focused on what needed to get done. This also translates to collaboration efforts in med school. When i think too hard about how i look im so timid and say the dumbest things but when i focus on my learning and understanding i actually perform better. And of course the more confident in my skills i am the less anxiety with performance i have. Thanks for this video it really made me sit down and reflect
great vid dude. as a musician/vocalist, it happens all the time!! especially during music play exams/try outs. all your skills kinda just go away when you're out on the spot. just like the guy in the comments said, the flow state is disturbed when one is overthinking about every technical detail. if you want to perform best on the spot, it's a balance between things you learnded and becoming one with flow. very hard - only happens with right vibes. vibes are everything.
the zero zero scoreboard thing you mentioned is what our American football coach would say every halftime. Its about keeping yourself competitive if you are winning and keeping you calm if you're loosing.
This is very relatable as a classical trumpet player. during solo performances the mental anxiety is absolutely crippling, but you get past it using centering techniques (visual habits, postural habits, a consciously directed ritual) which bring your attention back to the direction of the music and away from meta reflections on how the performance is going.
Oh maybe a related phenomenon as well, I read that concert pianists can lose their ability to coordinate their fingers individually when the brain regions which manage each finger grow so large that they begin to overlap with one another. This is a neurologically issue which essentially comes from over training and hyper-stimulating the brain in recruitment towards a specific task
I ride bmx and i had about a 3 week span where I couldn't remember how to backflip anymore. Literally one of the worse feelings I've ever felt literally sent me into a spiraling depression and eventually my dad helped me through it and I finally got the confidence to go out and do it again and I landed it perfect It was just a big mental block
Good on ya! I know how you feel. For me it was flipping off of stuff into water. Was at a buddies pool once, went for a backflip like I done 100 times, landed on the edge of the pool, and broke some ribs.... After this, I COULD NOT front, or back flip into a pool. LITERALLY like I lost the muscle memory. I'd try and try and be doing these super wonky frontflips. One day, i decided, fuck it I'm just gonna commit to a back dive (like half back flip) and after a few attempts of twisting, I was able to do it again. And then i could backflip again like it was second nature.
Thats when you practise another trick. You so into learning the movement and you are so focused to it hard to switch to other movment already lock in your memory. same goes when you try one trick, a grind or something, and you try 100 times. its hard for instant kickflip muscel memory.
or when you slam hard on a trick that should be easy and then you lose all confidence in that trick and cant do it anymore. i have a huge mental block with back 50s after slamming insanely hard on an over waxed box.
@@adrianc6534 Back 50's are so scary for no damn reason. Had them on lock for years. They were my warm up grind, and now. It's a trick i'll do if i'm feeling confident.
It’s something that a lot of people don’t understand because it’s really hard to relate to.. I struggled with that.. for 7 years I couldn’t do a laché.. I would alway do a flyaway instead… 😳
When you become expert at something, it becomes subconscious and so you don't need to consciously think about it. This enables you to perform well because you can take into account many variables at the same time. Choke happens in high stakes moments because you can't help using conscious thought to try to improve your performance, but this ends up making you perform worse because you fixate on a single variable instead of the big picture and is not the way you've trained. I think that the yips is just a form of choke. You know you're overthinking and will perform worse and your brain tries to stop you performing the action at all. Double-think is what top experts do to avoid choke, by tricking themselves into not feeling they're in a high stakes moment.
@@peterboneg Thought so The way you explained it above felt very reminiscent of the Authers writing style so I couldn't help but take a guess. If you have any recommendations on other books, I'd happily take them. Currently listening to "mastery" by Robert Green - not usually a fan of his works as a whole due to how monotonous they can feel (as a result of many, many examples) but mastery has stood out to me so far. Also found "A dictionary of body language" by Joe Navarro as an easy read if you're looking for something short and sweet to come back to every now and again.
@@reelgesh51 thanks, I've not heard of those. I'd recommend one of the earliest books on this subject called The Inner Game of Tennis. It's specifically about tennis but can be applied to really anything. Another good one is The art of learning by Josh Waitzkin, who was an expert in chess before becoming an expert in tai chi. The thing I took from that last book is to vary the way you train as much as possible and take tips from many different disciplines.
@@peterboneg You're actually the second person to recommend the art of learning to me. Guess I really need to get a move on then haha Thank you so much, hope the books I've recommended turn out to be interesting for you :) - can already tell I'll be having a blast Something I should mention about mastery if you do ever decide to give it a read is the book can feel more like a history book. The author constantly references his theorems and beliefs through historical examples, so much so the book can often feel tiring and not to the point. I personally found many of these analogy's extremely helpful as I myself enjoy learning about history but more importantly the examples given give a glimpse into the success of artists, scientists, poets, mechanics and doctors. Which personally helped me broaden my perspective and made his "rules" clearer and malleable. I'd recommended perhaps getting it "free" on audible if you haven't as listening to the historical devices on the way to work can be quite relaxing at times - reminds me I'm not the only one feeling the way I do etc. In any case forgive my long-winded comment - I often get carried away and hope you have a pleasant day :)
This is such an interesting phenomenon... And I'm sure it's something everyone can relate to in some way. We all have a moment of second guessing ourselves... But the muscle spasms while writing is something that happens to me and I never gave it much thought other than putting it down to not writing by hand much anymore. It's like I forgot how to write for a few seconds... Great work Jimmy! You're smashing it with these!
Dude, you're on a run with the your video upload frequency!! And I love watching all of them, they're good entertainment while doing mundaine every day tasks
I’m so glad jimmy brought this to me and so many other’s attention! This definitely happens to me and it’s very frustrating! So thanks for the tips and explanation 😊
This ended the career of Chuck Knobloch, Yankee 2nd baseman. He suddenly couldn't throw to 1st base. He would throw the ball into the stands. They had to move him to left field just so he couldn't overthrow it. He saw a sports psychologist, but could never fully recover. The fans called him Blockhead.
This is SOOO relatable as a musician! I'm a drummer and I have indeed experienced moments of the yips, a lost beat, missing your cymbal. it takes a moment to re configure and get back to your flow in order to not mess anyone else up. The whole thing is a revolving door of " wait. what. oh no. wait. what?".
I just asked if drummers can be affected. Then I saw your post. I was wondering if being ambidextrous would protect someone from the yips. I think my father had this. He was a snooker player and one day he lost his ability to hit the ball. He said that his arm refused to move.
I felt sad for the Darts guy, you can see it in his face, that he wants to release the dart, but it just wasn’t happening. The guy was about to burst into tears.
I experience this when drawing and it always happens when i'm perfecting the sketch lines or more so inking them. I tell myself how important this next stroke is and not to mess it up... then I make the stroke and mess it up. Stay loosey goosey
OMG I've just realised the Yips is what had happened to me in skateboarding! I started skating at the age of 13 and practiced every day. I was learning ollies after a week. But then I fell on my arm and almost dislocated my elbow. The injury healed after a month or two but after that I lost ALL ability to skate! I kept practicing almost every day for a year. Or two. Then I kept practicing regularly but less frequently for few more years. And during ALL this time I didn't progress ONE bit. I still couldn't even do the most basic of ollies. Eventually I just had to stop skating all together (thank God parkour came to my life after that) But, yes, it's a confidence thing. I don't know if there were any physiological changes in my nervous system after that fatal fall but it just felt like my body was TERRIFIED of falling again so I couldn't force it to attempt anything new on the skateboard.
I had the Yips in skateboarding.. A trick I had done 100,000 times flawlessly. As it was a easy required trick called a "Rock to fakie". People constantly told me mine where so clean.. then I lost them... I could not do that single trick anymore... everything else was fine. Was so strange... I forced myself to relearn it in baby steps but man that was annoying... Cool to know it has a name.
In the typing community, one of the most common and popular ways of measuring or practicing your skill is through tests with limits. Most people I've asked around who practice this style end up "choking" or falling just short of personal bests when they realize they're going at a record pace and the test is about to end. I experienced this myself a few days ago, when I was going at a record pace (but unaware of it) and not worrying at all about my results which ended up getting me a new personal best. A few minutes after, I went again but this time with a clock timing me down and a speed indicator, and I was FAR more nervous than the previous attempt, even though it was about the same speed and it had the same importance. Examples of this are everywhere such as in videogames like Osu! and others. This problem is EVERYWHERE.
I used to do a lot of flips on tower jumps when i was 12-18. But somehow i forgot how to do them and became scared to perform those actions. I recently started building up from smaller heights again, scary stuff
Hes trying to make youtube a full time job, problem is parkour on youtube isnt worth any money whatsoever. Its why motus charge for anything they put out anymore...
Parkour is a pretty tough topic to post consistent videos on in mini documentary style after a while. Jimmy did a banging job keeping it parkour only for as long as he did, plus he obviously enjoys branching out into other topics and is getting great at it.
Great video on a really interesting topic. I just remembered a school badminton league game where I had about 8 game points and lost with some really simple mistakes. I'm really bad at closing out games of table tennis even against my brothers.
Actually crazy. I've had moments in video games where high pressure moments in multiplayer matches cause my hands to completely go numb and then I can't even perform the thing I need to perform. I first noticed this when I was getting my first fire cape in Runescape. Actually crazy this has a name.
LMAO thats hilarious because I experienced the same.. You actually know what helps fighting Jad? Saying the moves he does out loud. Your brain registers things better when it hears you repeat what it just saw. Its weird but the second I did it, prayer switching was much easier.
@@mihailmilev9909 I think if anything it'll be hard to get it out of a lot of people. Some may just chock up their reflexes getting worse to just getting older. Sounds like an interesting story for someone out there to start looking.
Although really uncommon, the case in basketball with Markelle Fultz of the Orlando Magic is a really fascinating one. After recovering from a chronic shoulder injury he had no idea how to shoot the ball in a live game setting anymore. Which is insane because he was drafted #1 overall for being a reliable instant 3 level scorer with as polished a skillset as a college guard can come with. That is probably the most extreme version of basketball YIPS I can think of.
I remember that, since he was drafted by the Philadelphia 76ers, and I don't think anyone in Philadelphia was mad at him which is actually pretty rare for Philadelphia
Phillie fucked up markelles shot … they had him see a shooting coach trying to get him to release the ball higher and faster as they worried he’d be unable to get shots of consistently at nba level despite showing elite shot making ability at college …
Finnaly I know why thank you so much. Ive been a freerunner for going on 6 years not too extreme just back flips and the most i got was a back 360 flat. Then i just couldnt do it anymore. I couldnt bring myself to go over my head again. I bet if i turned my brain off and didnt think i could but i cant get into that state again its been years ive sadly given up.
I play esports pretty competitively (top 5k or so). For me I've definitely been suffering through something like this lately. I was at a relatively low rating and just wasn't able to win. I couldn't even do the most basic of tasks that even an average player can do. So thank you for this video.
Dont think too much and just remember you're dope, happened to me after a bad death in dayz once, for awhile I couldn't even play any fps any where near my previous skill level. Had to build my confidence again in planetside then it just kinda came back
I suffered all my life from anxiety. In golf it became performance anxiety and under pressure I would have a very difficult time! Ended up giving up the game in competition! Never could overcome it!
Having played competitive pc games for years, I got to a point where I was very, very good, but found a wall that I was stuck at, trying to improve. I started analyzing every single thing I would do, and started developing things like the yips. My mouse wouldn't feel right. Things would tug wrong. Clicks felt out of sync. I know how this feels. It's terrible when something you've done for years and years in a fluid, "clean" feeling starts to feel "dirty" and doesn't execute properly.
Thank you for making a video like this, Jimmy. A lot of info in this video explains why I lost the ability to do most of the freerunning stuff I was able to do 3 years ago.
It use to happen to me in every activity I could do without my mind being active or "present". The same way i did the moves automatically one day i automatically forgot. I discovered i could not do too much of the same thing for very long periods of time.First time it happened to me it was in soccer, I thought i went stupid. Literally i could not kick the ball straight. For one month stopped playing soccer and started learning basketball. Once i got soccer out of my mind and "body" and came back to it fresh, both my mind and body were actively conscious of soccer and all went away. So if by any chance you are suffering something similar forget about what you cannot do and try a new sport or activity that engages you and requires no effort to be "present". Once the mental pathways have been flushed with new moves and abilities going back to the old is way easier and effortless.
For a case study of performance anxiety, you should check out the rhythm game osu! As you play, a combo gradually builds up and it resets to 0 if you miss once. This means some players playing very hard beatmaps get heart rates over 170bpm and their hands shake like mad. Many top tournament players have talked/written about nerves, consistency, and the mental game.
I was a division 1 gymnast. The "twisties" can cause you to lose track of where you are in the air because your mind gets ahead of what you're doing (mind moving faster than the rate of the execution of whatever it is you're doing). I certainly wouldn't call it a dystonia. Simone was probably under a lot of pressure. Blaming her departure all on "The twisties" was an odd choice by the media.
The yips happen when you've done everything you need to do, when you are where you need to be, the next step is simple and you've done it a thousand times before. Only this time everybody's eyes are focused on you and you alone, your mind goes blank and you have no muscle memory. Commonly referred to as a fear of winning. It normally only happens on the biggest of stages.
I have experienced this very recently and still im struggling with it. From this video I actually found out I had this. 2 months ago I joined my first pro football academy which is a massive thing to do. Huge step forward in my career. For about a week I was on my A game but then all of a sudden during a training session I no joke forgot how to kick the ball. I was one of the best coming in and then boom out of the blue I was playing like ive never played football before in my life. My performance lately has been so terrible my coach had to pull me out of sessions and games because I simply couldn't compete. At times I really worry that I will get kicked from the club and my career would colapse, but watching this video and reading some comments gave me some hope as I am now aware that this is a phase that I will get pass but it also allowed me to look back and realise why I was having the yips. My confidence is non existant. One bad session caused me to feel pressure and then that caused a domino effect. My team mates made fun of me as im known as the 'shit new guy'. I am the joke of my club and the worst part is that all this is happening during my most important moment in my career. I wanna reach out to a sports psychologist or any sort of psychologist to speak out and crack open my mind and issues but my parents think that its just unnecessary and I now feel like I dont have much options. I even get anxious for training sessions as if they were a big game. I just wanna feel and play like I used to, with confidence, happiness and without thinking much. Someone help, i am struggling.
at this point just go back to your roots and play for fun. theres no help in overthinking your performance since it makes it worse and also makes the sport unenjoyable. you have nothing to lose at this point so might as well loosen up a bit and maybe you will end up gaining your confidence back
I had something similar happen when I was out on anti depressants about 6 yrs ago. I got off them within 2 or 3 months but I developed a yip for certain fine things I try to do with my hands. I used to tech deck at a pretty high level and I can't even flick an Ollie anymore.
have you guys seen space jam? The yips? No! Its a group of aliens stealing their athletic abilities so that they can beat a team of looney characters in basketball game
Hi Jimmy, Good point! I play squash and when I used to compete, I would get nervous over the simplest of shots, I knew how easy I could win them but I choked and played a different shot or something worst. I would naturally choke in the sport during the beginning of the match, I would serve the ball out about 5 times and hit the ball out, whether hitting the tin or hitting it too high, or just missing. I always ended up winning by a little. A way that helped me to get out of that nervous wreck zone is to establish a routine. Music never worked for me, especially rap or hip hop, nothing that pumps me up. I need total and complete utter silence. Then I get nervous but accept that feeling and tell my self it is okay. I use two mantras, just have fun/this is for fun, and keep calm and carry on. These mantras were great and helped me play better after the first 8 minutes of the match, I stopped overthinking and just played, I used more of my instincts and I won.
that is actually so interesting, i literally know the exact thing. 1 day i just couldnt do volleyball serves anymore, did it everyday and then it was just poof gone, 1 year later i still cant server a volleyball
WHAT?! this is a thing? I had been playing soccer since 5 years old. Select teams. Loved the sport so much! One year, I just forgot how to kick the ball with any lift. I couldn’t clear the ball! I could run and do everything else. Not bragging. Truly. But I was one of the best on that field at all times. I practiced constantly. My coach had me separated from the rest of the team, with the assistant coach(!) just kicking the ball against a wall for 2 hours a day! I just could not kick like I had been kicking for 10 years prior! It took an entire season to rectify. I have never even heard of anything like this until this video. I played 25 years ago! Great video and Thankyou!!
on the topic of badminton, in high school when we played i had never played it before but form the first time i picked up the racket i was literally the best player between the 2 classes that did p.e. together. i had no idea how it was, i was destroying people more so than i did in other sport than i ever had...people thought i was an expert. we didnt have a badminton team at our school so once school ended i just never played again because at the time i never seen people really take it to serious and knew no one who really played where i was from
I may have subscribed under this video but I subscribed to see your rollerblading updates. Keep that alive and keep kicking butt! Ye ye ye ye ye ye ye ye ye ye ye
Rick Ankiel is my favorite example of the yips. He was a very good pitcher, but suddenly lost control and kept throwing wild pitches. Eventually he had to switch and become an outfielder. The kicker is as an outfielder he became known for arguably the best arm in baseball. He could hit the strike zone from the outfield wall, about 400ft away, but not from the pitcher's mound that's only about 60 feet away.
Grew up playing multiple sports having success in most. Have always been laid back, never very anxious at all, and performed my best in high pressure situations (multiple buzzer beaters, insane comebacks in tennis, and so on). One day in college when I was 20 playing flag football for fun, I dropped back to throw a football and could not throw a spiral for the life of me. It wasnt even one of those wobbly spirals, it was wobbling so bad i couldn't throw past 30 yards, in highschool I could throw 60 yards. Took 2 years and then it just started clicking again. Never over thought about technique, was always self taught, it just clicked and I can throw again. Have never had any mental disability of any kind and never took sports seriously, just had fun. Still can't explain why I just stopped being able to throw a football for 2 years of my life.
Fact about Steve Blass' yips, it's heavily implied even by Steve himself that his yips were caused by the tragic death of Roberto Clemente who passed on December 31st of 1972. Clemente passed attempting to send aid to hurricane victims in Nicaragua.
Something of this sort happens to me when I'm writing sometimes. All of a sudden I'll forget how to make a letter or be unable to start my signature. I always chalked it up to the fact that I rarely physically write anymore, like with pen and paper.
I’m an artist and musician and I have experienced this before. Sometimes this is triggered when you leave the flow and become conscious of your surroundings. It feels like your body isn’t doing what you need it to. It’s very weird and scary
I know a guitarist who had a similar issue whenever they had to perform - their hands just wouldn't play the notes properly. They told their doctor and he prescribed them a beta blocker, it stops some of the physical symptoms of anxiety like a racing heart and it worked like a charm. Supposedly some lawyers also take them when they have an important part of a case to argue. Not sure if they're suitable for high intensity athletetics though.
The yips sounds a lot like stuttering, when I was a kid I was fairly good at speaking my home language, but when I was introduced to school I didn't know much English so I had major anxiety from any interaction, it totally messed me up. My parents thought I got brain damage/stroke or something, since I couldn't even make full sentences in the language I already spoke. Luckily once I hit my teens my parents realized it wasn't going to go on its own and took me to group therapy for kids with speech impediments, where they concentrated on relaxation and confidence building rather than anything physically wrong.
You commented about missing this shot in badminton, because of feeling the importance of this point (game point). I've often had the same thing in football (soccer), when i was about to score (in amateur leagues). Sometimes my mind would go blank, and i wouldn't really know what to do, how to position my body, where to shoot, even though i practiced this same kind of position all the time. Most of the time would recover and score, but a fair number of times, i would miss what would otherwise be an easy goal, because of that weird feeling.
I've experienced this as a racecar driver. It's so weird... It's like one minute you can perform at this most optimum level of performance, then the next it's like you're back to square one learning all over again. Can be extremely frustrating and demoralizing.
Oh yeah I definitely can get the 'yips' when I realise the value and reliance of something I've worked hard to learn or value about myself, it always comes from over thinking not instinct, but being overly thoughtful is just part of trying to conceive of every possible way to improve and questioning if what you're doing is the best way to do it and then the instinct goes out the window. It takes me 1 month + to make a youtube video, and when I upload and take in all that has gone into it I often toy with the thought that I might not be able to recreate that as it's been a considerable amount of time since I started that process fresh, but ofcourse the instinct and taking things as they go makes it seem too easy, I can't speak for the condition of not being able to come back ever, but I certainly get that feeling and can need a mental break to come back to baseline
I read about something like this years ago, specifically in relation to musicians who play string instruments. From what I recall, it's basically a result of being too focused and practicing too hard. Similar to how your muscles get stronger in a particular way from particular kinds of physical activities, your brain tries to reshape itself to suit whatever you're doing. What seems to happen with some musicians, though, is that the parts of the brain involved in controlling their fingers start to "expand" to the point of overlapping, leading to interference between different fingers. They'll touch a string with one finger and feel it in a different finger, then try to move one finger and involuntarily move another one as well. For full-body activities like gymnastics, I can imagine it feeling like you've just forgotten how to make your body do what it's supposed to do.
The most similar case i had was related to cubing. I'm not a professional speed cuber or something like that, i do it for fun, one day i decided to solve a cube after 2 years without touching it and my muscle memory worked fine until i forgot how to do a J Perm (it's quite a long algorithm), i looked a tutorial and got my muscle memory back after 1 min, BUT literally the next day i couldn't do it, even following the tutorial i was struggling. Took me 3 hs to do a J Perm without thinking of doing it.
Here's a modern version for you. I ride a Onewheel XR for 5 years now. Been hit run like 5 times not at fault. Dislocated shoulder, broken ribs broken spine, vertebra pushed out. I've had drivers intentionally hit me I've had drivers try to run me over like they're pushing me down the road try to run me over not like they tried and just drove past. I'm not trying to show off I'm just getting at the point that I can take beatings get back up and keep going if not having to heal and the between time but I'm not afraid of getting back on and doing it again it's my point. Now I've nose dived my OWXR before. But for weeks after I heal it takes me time to get used to leaning forward and pushing through the fear of injuring myself. I just can't ride over 18 mph it's a lack of confidence. But after 2 weeks go by and all my injuries are fully healed my confidence comes back and then I can shoot down the road at 20 plus mile an hour again. I wear a full face helmet full body armor some of the most expensive reactive armor on the market and the shit works. I'm not crazy I don't have a death wish I just don't wish to quit a sport because someone else is bad at driving. An making a right hand turn without looking right before you hit the gas and the pedestrian/bike/scouters. I have a very bright red and blue flashing light have a strobe light going off but yet none of this stuff works if the person isn't even looking both ways or intentionally trying to hit you.
This is really true for a people who solve rubiks cubes fast, every time they realize a position is a potential personal best breaker or even world record at the higher levels they freak out and put on an extremely bad performance.
A friend of mine did his phd on dystonia in the hands. Very interesting subject that impacts way more people than you'd think especially in jobs that require a lot of writing.
My daughter was a team GB acrobatic gymnast British champion and ranked 2nd in Europe she grew up in the gym and is the reason I now love watching people do parcour after seeing them go big or going home in the safety of the gyms but anyway my daughter got hit with the yips after qualifying for the world's in a mixed pair fighting the block nearly destroyed her mentally and after managing to fight the bloke to go and not let the other gymnast down she unfortunately left the spot and more than that she never started tried parcour :(
For the psychological yips, I think it tends to become a feedback loop of conscious processing that interferes with performance which should ideally be an unconscious process. If you ask an athlete what they are thinking about during a bout of top tier performance in "Flo-State", they will most likely say nothing. Conscious processing is too slow and usually only useful during the learning phase of a skill.
I played a lot of tennis on the club level. One year I tried a new racquet. I hated it, but trying it out, my body I "forgot" how to lob. My body just refused to do it. It became an awful problem because in warm ups, you have to hit the opponents easy lobs so they can warm up their overhead. I just couldn't lob. Some opponents tnought I was faking, but I wasn't. I took lessons, I did everything I know to do and finally one day, I could lob again. Until I saw this video, I had no idea this was a "thing".
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you took all these golfers and some Phil Jackson.. You could go for Shaq and other guys who failed when they were facing free throw shooting :) But anyway really great topic :)
I'm unsubscribing because I know youre not going to mention her brother being the reason she didn't perform.....her brother was involved with some big time drug Lords and he screwed them over and they want their stuff back and they made legit threats towards her and the rest of the fam
Happened to me a while ago so I did some research and found out there's a thing called 'Lost Move Syndrome', which is "a psychological condition in which athletes find themselves unable to perform a skill that was previously automatic". I've been doing flips on a trampoline for pretty much all my life, one time I wanted to do a triple full (which was no effort usually) and my body somehow went for a double flip mid twisting. Scared the shit out of me. After that I couldn't triple anymore, took a little break and later that day I even forgot how to do a simple backflip... Took months to even get a single full again and start building from there. It finally took me more than a year to get back to my previous level. This also happened a second time which thankfully only took me 3 weeks to recover from. For me it definitely was a lack of confidence and overthinking everything, which made me try to do the flips 'manually' instead of on 'auto pilot' and that doesn't work.
Been doing parkour since 2012 and in 2017, I've seen myself slowly "decaying" as I was losing all my flips, the first was the backflip (which I used to do everyday, on every ground), then sideflip. It's been 5 years that I can't do a single flip on hard ground, and it hurts (I mean for the self-esteem as all my friends keep progressing) so much I had to stop. But your story has motivated me to get back to it. Thanks !
this happened to me after i landed on my neck doing a double twist. took me a year to get it back. when trying to perform it again (while the ability is still missing) it was just a blank sheet in my mind, i couldnt figure out how twisting worked in my head.
Ive done gtramp for 5 years and I know exactly what its like. The feeling when you lose all sense of awareness in the middle of a flip, nothing beats that fear. I went from doing quads to barely doing doubles nowadays.
I had a similar experience when I was younger. Im a gymnast and one time when I was learning a front tuck with a half out I messed up and it ruined all of my front tumbling completely. I couldnt even do a regular front tuck, I'd either pull out and couldn't make myself do it or I automatically accidentally did a scary and poor tucked half twist. Eventually after like 6 months I got my front tuck back by building all the way back up from a forwards roll. It took ages to build the confidence back but now my front tumbling is far more comfortable than backwards
well thats horrifying
I'm a pro guitar player and stuggle with focal dystonia. It stalled my career for years. For anyone suffering from this stuff the best explanation I've ever heard is from an expert named Ruth Chiles. I have a bandmate who got the dreaded focal dystonia and with all the info that's out there now, was able to get over it in a little under a year!
The first time I read about focal dystonia was in an article on Billy McLaughlin. He was an amazing fingerstyle guitarist and could no longer perform the pieces he wrote and played for years. After a lot of therapy an training, he switched to playing left handed. He had to start all over. Now he's even better than he use to be.
I'm the guitarist in a band, got a gig next week come to think of it, never actually had this but interesting to read about it
no you dont, everyone has everything now a days. You have it and a band mate has it? Hmmm seems legit..
I've been playing bass for 20 years and have it too.
@@Greybruh rock solid my man. Keep calling our this mental fomo social media brought upon us. 'I am a professional fish wrangler and my ceo of my electric car company and my sisters mother in law all suffer from lying dystonia.'
I was a gymnast for 16 years. I struggled with the "Twisties" too and it totally destroyed my chances of going on to higher level competition. It's sad for sports like golf and baseball, but in gymnastics, if you twist when you don't mean to, you could seriously injur yourself. I was happy to see Simone Biles blow up when this happened because this condition deserves more recognition. People used to just tell me "don't twist", like it was just that easy
Damn, what gymnasts are you around? My sisters have been in gymnastics since they could walk and continued into their mid teens. Both had twisties at one point and it was taken pretty seriously, especially for my younger sister who competed at a high level.
@@Maaad-maaan men's gymnastics
I was a gymnast for 14 years.
One day I came in, everything normal, untill I had to do a front flip. Just a normal front flip. I just could not land on my feet no matter what. Under rotate, over rotate, on floor an a trampoline, all the same. The coach thought I was messing with him as I could land everything else normally.
This went on for about 4 weeks, when one day I landed normally and it was like a skill being switched back on.
After that the problem thankfully never reoccurred
@@baguette6969 It's absolutely nuts, and I think it's something a person can't truly understand unless they unfortunately go through it themselves. I would literally inadvertantly throw twists in the middle of double flipping elements. I would also just lose certain skills randomly, some of them I spent years trying to recover and never got them back. It blows my mind how you can spend years perfecting a skill, only to have it magically disappear right before your eyes.
@@matthewW97 It gets to a point where you're scared of trying it again, because you know you are only going to get hurt
I am by no means a psychologist but this is what it sounds like to me.
When you overthink something, specifically a physical action, you're using your conscious brain to "manually" control every movement which you often can't keep up with. When you're in a flow state, a lot of work is being done by your subconscious/unconscious which I guess has a lot more processing power.
It's like when you're conscious that you're breathing - you can never quite get your breathes right because you're used to it being controlled by your subconscious and you're not actually consciously that familiar with the process.
but the question is why after decades of training this happens SUDDENLY and is irreversible. people don't manage to just get out of it like normal. i sometimes get caught up with breathing or walking yea, but eventually my brain clicks back into place and i can do it fine again. this is not possible for these athletes
@@reidleblanc3140 I thought the same as Gerg, and what you point out may be bc they cannot go back to subconcious processes, I mean each time they try it again, since there's the fear of "it" coming back, selfconciousness hits and "it" happens again.
I think a way to disprove this hypothesis is to know if any of these athletes went through a "non-selfconciousness" training and failed.
Also, since proprioception is linked with memory, and we all know we can have memory problems, then it could also be a proprioception memory problem.
You absolutely right, i 100pc agree, you are not a psychologist.
I have deffinitley experienced something like this before
The mental 'flip' happens because the flow state is disrupted by the awareness of what's at stake. It could happen from not having enough mental strength, lack of focus in challenging situations.. and could even be from gluten intolerance - no joke, there's plenty of literature on it. It's a growing epidemic in mental health. Read 'Grain Brain' by neurologist Dr. David Perlmutter.
I also think that the more modern culture of "expressing one's feelings" has reduced an individual's mental practice and ability to create an internal mental boundary between the task at hand and any strong new emotions that may arise in a particular high stress circumstance. Which has also led to a rise in ADHD and similar disorders.
I been doing parkour for almost 12 years already and like a year ago and out of sudden I totally forgot how to do a cork while I was practicing how to dub cork.
It took me like 6 months to get my cork back cause I had to go through the basis once again until I had the confidence to do it.
Now I know what it was thanks Jimmy!
parkour!
Same, cork is the move I train the most but sometimes I just kinda forget how to do it.
You've essentially renamed the phenomenon of "choking", also often described as "thinking too much". However, it's a bit more complicated than simply "thinking too much". What accompanies racing thoughts and too much thinking is fear, anxiety, and the threat of shame. Thinking alot is not inherently bad, but it tends to happen when athletes or performers begin to question their abilities and their self-worth. Losing their craft would essentially result in a loss of self-worth AKA shame, because their sport or ability is the primary foundation upon which they've built their lives. Their minds then anxiously monitor and anticipate movements that were once "free-flowing", "natural", and "second-nature", and movements suddenly becomes "rigid", "awkward", and "segmented". They could be the most skilled of athletes or virtuosos, but if their lives' are built on the shaky, unstable, and waning foundations of ephemeral talents and constantly straining toward the highest of standards---their uncertainty and volatility will show in their movements.
It isn’t choking, it’s mental. A good example is Chuck Knoblach or however you spell it. Chuck was a perennial all-star on his way to the HOF. He was a second baseman and couldn’t throw to first base, the easiest throw you can make at his position. The more you think of accuracy, the worse your throws.
I have a gymnast child. It made me sick to see all the hate Simone got. People just dont understand. Its not like playing golf in a bad state of mind and just embarrassing yourself.
Good that she didn't attempt. A bad attempt in gymnastics can end pretty badly.
Yeah, Simone got my respect shes only like 4‘7 yet she is the best gymnast in the world
Lewis Hamilton: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Tyson Fury: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Ronaldo: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Serena Williams: I got a mental break down, i need to stop half way. Even the blind can see Simone is proving a point only. Total unsportsmanship.
Half of the hate was due to her consuming illegal substances with permission. Same goes for the williams sisters.
@@marvinracer88 It’s not illegal, it’s for her adhd, that she’s been taking since she was a child. It’s just illegal in some other countries(including japan). Also, as far as I’m aware the William sisters have never been caught doping, unlike numerous Russian athletes.
I defo sometimes suffer from performance anxiety, pissed me off so much. How i got over it (kind of) is i stopped caring about how i looked, i stopped caring about letting others down and i just focused on what needed to get done. This also translates to collaboration efforts in med school. When i think too hard about how i look im so timid and say the dumbest things but when i focus on my learning and understanding i actually perform better. And of course the more confident in my skills i am the less anxiety with performance i have.
Thanks for this video it really made me sit down and reflect
Ngl I thought you were talking about another type of "performance anxiety"
As a musician this happens a lot, but normally it fixes itself by just not thinking about it
great vid dude. as a musician/vocalist, it happens all the time!! especially during music play exams/try outs. all your skills kinda just go away when you're out on the spot. just like the guy in the comments said, the flow state is disturbed when one is overthinking about every technical detail. if you want to perform best on the spot, it's a balance between things you learnded and becoming one with flow. very hard - only happens with right vibes. vibes are everything.
the zero zero scoreboard thing you mentioned is what our American football coach would say every halftime. Its about keeping yourself competitive if you are winning and keeping you calm if you're loosing.
This is very relatable as a classical trumpet player. during solo performances the mental anxiety is absolutely crippling, but you get past it using centering techniques (visual habits, postural habits, a consciously directed ritual) which bring your attention back to the direction of the music and away from meta reflections on how the performance is going.
Oh maybe a related phenomenon as well, I read that concert pianists can lose their ability to coordinate their fingers individually when the brain regions which manage each finger grow so large that they begin to overlap with one another. This is a neurologically issue which essentially comes from over training and hyper-stimulating the brain in recruitment towards a specific task
4:59 'Eric Bristow' not 'Eric Bostow'
5:09 'Stephen Hendry' not 'Stefan Hendry'
I ride bmx and i had about a 3 week span where I couldn't remember how to backflip anymore. Literally one of the worse feelings I've ever felt literally sent me into a spiraling depression and eventually my dad helped me through it and I finally got the confidence to go out and do it again and I landed it perfect It was just a big mental block
Good on ya! I know how you feel. For me it was flipping off of stuff into water. Was at a buddies pool once, went for a backflip like I done 100 times, landed on the edge of the pool, and broke some ribs.... After this, I COULD NOT front, or back flip into a pool. LITERALLY like I lost the muscle memory. I'd try and try and be doing these super wonky frontflips. One day, i decided, fuck it I'm just gonna commit to a back dive (like half back flip) and after a few attempts of twisting, I was able to do it again. And then i could backflip again like it was second nature.
In Skateboarding you can sometimes forget a trick you have on lock. Those tricks can later come back when you dont think about it that much.
Yeah you just do it on a whim and have them on lock again
Thats when you practise another trick. You so into learning the movement and you are so focused to it hard to switch to other movment already lock in your memory. same goes when you try one trick, a grind or something, and you try 100 times. its hard for instant kickflip muscel memory.
or when you slam hard on a trick that should be easy and then you lose all confidence in that trick and cant do it anymore. i have a huge mental block with back 50s after slamming insanely hard on an over waxed box.
@@adrianc6534 Back 50's are so scary for no damn reason. Had them on lock for years. They were my warm up grind, and now. It's a trick i'll do if i'm feeling confident.
Bruh I literally had shuv-it’s and then I lost them
It’s something that a lot of people don’t understand because it’s really hard to relate to.. I struggled with that.. for 7 years I couldn’t do a laché.. I would alway do a flyaway instead… 😳
Don't worrie, lache and flyaway is the same
Oh no that’s such a struggle 😂
Your channel just keeps getting better and better brotha 🎃💯🎃
When you become expert at something, it becomes subconscious and so you don't need to consciously think about it. This enables you to perform well because you can take into account many variables at the same time. Choke happens in high stakes moments because you can't help using conscious thought to try to improve your performance, but this ends up making you perform worse because you fixate on a single variable instead of the big picture and is not the way you've trained. I think that the yips is just a form of choke. You know you're overthinking and will perform worse and your brain tries to stop you performing the action at all. Double-think is what top experts do to avoid choke, by tricking themselves into not feeling they're in a high stakes moment.
Have you read bounce the myth of talent and the power of practice?
@@reelgesh51 I have! Matthew Syed. Good book.
@@peterboneg Thought so
The way you explained it above felt very reminiscent of the Authers writing style so I couldn't help but take a guess.
If you have any recommendations on other books, I'd happily take them. Currently listening to "mastery" by Robert Green - not usually a fan of his works as a whole due to how monotonous they can feel (as a result of many, many examples) but mastery has stood out to me so far.
Also found "A dictionary of body language" by Joe Navarro as an easy read if you're looking for something short and sweet to come back to every now and again.
@@reelgesh51 thanks, I've not heard of those. I'd recommend one of the earliest books on this subject called The Inner Game of Tennis. It's specifically about tennis but can be applied to really anything. Another good one is The art of learning by Josh Waitzkin, who was an expert in chess before becoming an expert in tai chi. The thing I took from that last book is to vary the way you train as much as possible and take tips from many different disciplines.
@@peterboneg You're actually the second person to recommend the art of learning to me. Guess I really need to get a move on then haha
Thank you so much, hope the books I've recommended turn out to be interesting for you :) - can already tell I'll be having a blast
Something I should mention about mastery if you do ever decide to give it a read is the book can feel more like a history book. The author constantly references his theorems and beliefs through historical examples, so much so the book can often feel tiring and not to the point. I personally found many of these analogy's extremely helpful as I myself enjoy learning about history but more importantly the examples given give a glimpse into the success of artists, scientists, poets, mechanics and doctors. Which personally helped me broaden my perspective and made his "rules" clearer and malleable.
I'd recommended perhaps getting it "free" on audible if you haven't as listening to the historical devices on the way to work can be quite relaxing at times - reminds me I'm not the only one feeling the way I do etc.
In any case forgive my long-winded comment - I often get carried away and hope you have a pleasant day :)
This is such an interesting phenomenon... And I'm sure it's something everyone can relate to in some way. We all have a moment of second guessing ourselves...
But the muscle spasms while writing is something that happens to me and I never gave it much thought other than putting it down to not writing by hand much anymore. It's like I forgot how to write for a few seconds...
Great work Jimmy! You're smashing it with these!
Look man. Ima make this simple for you. She wasnt on adderal in china.
@@mattk8810 lol Think you replied to the wrong comment mate
Seing that dart player struggling and feeling his pain just crushed my heart
Dude, you're on a run with the your video upload frequency!! And I love watching all of them, they're good entertainment while doing mundaine every day tasks
in gymnastics trampolining it is very common you can go from doing triple flips to not even being able do a single flip
I’m so glad jimmy brought this to me and so many other’s attention! This definitely happens to me and it’s very frustrating! So thanks for the tips and explanation 😊
Wow, a week ago I was wondering what happened to you. Now you are rolling out videos daily. Nice to see them. Really well-told stories.
He put away his glasses
This ended the career of Chuck Knobloch, Yankee 2nd baseman. He suddenly couldn't throw to 1st base. He would throw the ball into the stands. They had to move him to left field just so he couldn't overthrow it. He saw a sports psychologist, but could never fully recover.
The fans called him Blockhead.
This is SOOO relatable as a musician! I'm a drummer and I have indeed experienced moments of the yips, a lost beat, missing your cymbal. it takes a moment to re configure and get back to your flow in order to not mess anyone else up. The whole thing is a revolving door of " wait. what. oh no. wait. what?".
I just asked if drummers can be affected. Then I saw your post. I was wondering if being ambidextrous would protect someone from the yips. I think my father had this. He was a snooker player and one day he lost his ability to hit the ball. He said that his arm refused to move.
I felt sad for the Darts guy, you can see it in his face, that he wants to release the dart, but it just wasn’t happening. The guy was about to burst into tears.
I experience this when drawing and it always happens when i'm perfecting the sketch lines or more so inking them. I tell myself how important this next stroke is and not to mess it up... then I make the stroke and mess it up. Stay loosey goosey
OMG I've just realised the Yips is what had happened to me in skateboarding!
I started skating at the age of 13 and practiced every day. I was learning ollies after a week. But then I fell on my arm and almost dislocated my elbow. The injury healed after a month or two but after that I lost ALL ability to skate!
I kept practicing almost every day for a year. Or two. Then I kept practicing regularly but less frequently for few more years.
And during ALL this time I didn't progress ONE bit. I still couldn't even do the most basic of ollies.
Eventually I just had to stop skating all together (thank God parkour came to my life after that)
But, yes, it's a confidence thing. I don't know if there were any physiological changes in my nervous system after that fatal fall but it just felt like my body was TERRIFIED of falling again so I couldn't force it to attempt anything new on the skateboard.
Your story structure is on point bru! Great docs! Always engaging
I had the Yips in skateboarding.. A trick I had done 100,000 times flawlessly. As it was a easy required trick called a "Rock to fakie". People constantly told me mine where so clean.. then I lost them... I could not do that single trick anymore... everything else was fine. Was so strange... I forced myself to relearn it in baby steps but man that was annoying... Cool to know it has a name.
Wow God bless you. Thank you for explaining this. This happened to me many times playing soccer. One time I almost froze completely.
In the typing community, one of the most common and popular ways of measuring or practicing your skill is through tests with limits. Most people I've asked around who practice this style end up "choking" or falling just short of personal bests when they realize they're going at a record pace and the test is about to end. I experienced this myself a few days ago, when I was going at a record pace (but unaware of it) and not worrying at all about my results which ended up getting me a new personal best. A few minutes after, I went again but this time with a clock timing me down and a speed indicator, and I was FAR more nervous than the previous attempt, even though it was about the same speed and it had the same importance. Examples of this are everywhere such as in videogames like Osu! and others. This problem is EVERYWHERE.
touch grass man
@@kekekekekeke2918 🤡
competitive typing? 😹
Typing fellow
I can't even describe how much this video helped me!
Much much love!!!!
I used to do a lot of flips on tower jumps when i was 12-18. But somehow i forgot how to do them and became scared to perform those actions. I recently started building up from smaller heights again, scary stuff
only the OGs remember when we had actual parkour content lol
Yea
Hes trying to make youtube a full time job, problem is parkour on youtube isnt worth any money whatsoever. Its why motus charge for anything they put out anymore...
Parkour is a pretty tough topic to post consistent videos on in mini documentary style after a while. Jimmy did a banging job keeping it parkour only for as long as he did, plus he obviously enjoys branching out into other topics and is getting great at it.
Wow, hit him where it hurts
I aint complaining
6:36 that crowd reaction though
Great video on a really interesting topic.
I just remembered a school badminton league game where I had about 8 game points and lost with some really simple mistakes.
I'm really bad at closing out games of table tennis even against my brothers.
The darts player cracking on live television 4:41 really breaks my heart to see
Actually crazy. I've had moments in video games where high pressure moments in multiplayer matches cause my hands to completely go numb and then I can't even perform the thing I need to perform. I first noticed this when I was getting my first fire cape in Runescape. Actually crazy this has a name.
LMAO thats hilarious because I experienced the same.. You actually know what helps fighting Jad? Saying the moves he does out loud. Your brain registers things better when it hears you repeat what it just saw. Its weird but the second I did it, prayer switching was much easier.
@@CB-rv2lj Yes! That did help a lot.
@@CB-rv2lj that's crazy
@@Stuyk wow. We need more research and attention on this as well lol. Are there esports players who got the yips?
@@mihailmilev9909 I think if anything it'll be hard to get it out of a lot of people. Some may just chock up their reflexes getting worse to just getting older. Sounds like an interesting story for someone out there to start looking.
Really goes to show how little we know about our own brains and how they work. Real interesting stuff to think about, good vid.
My older brother has dystonia and I'm so so grateful to you for bringing it to light thank you
Always putting out interesting videos, often like "small scale documentaries", well done.
Although really uncommon, the case in basketball with Markelle Fultz of the Orlando Magic is a really fascinating one. After recovering from a chronic shoulder injury he had no idea how to shoot the ball in a live game setting anymore. Which is insane because he was drafted #1 overall for being a reliable instant 3 level scorer with as polished a skillset as a college guard can come with. That is probably the most extreme version of basketball YIPS I can think of.
I remember that, since he was drafted by the Philadelphia 76ers, and I don't think anyone in Philadelphia was mad at him which is actually pretty rare for Philadelphia
Phillie fucked up markelles shot … they had him see a shooting coach trying to get him to release the ball higher and faster as they worried he’d be unable to get shots of consistently at nba level despite showing elite shot making ability at college …
Finnaly I know why thank you so much.
Ive been a freerunner for going on 6 years not too extreme just back flips and the most i got was a back 360 flat. Then i just couldnt do it anymore. I couldnt bring myself to go over my head again. I bet if i turned my brain off and didnt think i could but i cant get into that state again its been years ive sadly given up.
I play esports pretty competitively (top 5k or so). For me I've definitely been suffering through something like this lately. I was at a relatively low rating and just wasn't able to win. I couldn't even do the most basic of tasks that even an average player can do. So thank you for this video.
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Wow
Dont think too much and just remember you're dope, happened to me after a bad death in dayz once, for awhile I couldn't even play any fps any where near my previous skill level. Had to build my confidence again in planetside then it just kinda came back
play some real sports instead
@@ymiph6802 how about you do something other then attacking random people in the internet
I suffered all my life from anxiety. In golf it became performance anxiety and under pressure I would have a very difficult time! Ended up giving up the game in competition! Never could overcome it!
Having played competitive pc games for years, I got to a point where I was very, very good, but found a wall that I was stuck at, trying to improve. I started analyzing every single thing I would do, and started developing things like the yips. My mouse wouldn't feel right. Things would tug wrong. Clicks felt out of sync. I know how this feels. It's terrible when something you've done for years and years in a fluid, "clean" feeling starts to feel "dirty" and doesn't execute properly.
Thank you for making a video like this, Jimmy. A lot of info in this video explains why I lost the ability to do most of the freerunning stuff I was able to do 3 years ago.
Poor you
Pretty sure running doesn’t have yips
@@wyattstringer.1 Freerunning? Also mistaken for Parkour?
@@kirumizumi shit, free running mean parkour?
@@kirumizumi shit my bad, I thought you meant like jogging or something
It use to happen to me in every activity I could do without my mind being active or "present". The same way i did the moves automatically one day i automatically forgot. I discovered i could not do too much of the same thing for very long periods of time.First time it happened to me it was in soccer, I thought i went stupid. Literally i could not kick the ball straight. For one month stopped playing soccer and started learning basketball. Once i got soccer out of my mind and "body" and came back to it fresh, both my mind and body were actively conscious of soccer and all went away. So if by any chance you are suffering something similar forget about what you cannot do and try a new sport or activity that engages you and requires no effort to be "present". Once the mental pathways have been flushed with new moves and abilities going back to the old is way easier and effortless.
For a case study of performance anxiety, you should check out the rhythm game osu! As you play, a combo gradually builds up and it resets to 0 if you miss once. This means some players playing very hard beatmaps get heart rates over 170bpm and their hands shake like mad. Many top tournament players have talked/written about nerves, consistency, and the mental game.
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I was a division 1 gymnast. The "twisties" can cause you to lose track of where you are in the air because your mind gets ahead of what you're doing (mind moving faster than the rate of the execution of whatever it is you're doing). I certainly wouldn't call it a dystonia. Simone was probably under a lot of pressure. Blaming her departure all on "The twisties" was an odd choice by the media.
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The yips happen when you've done everything you need to do, when you are where you need to be, the next step is simple and you've done it a thousand times before. Only this time everybody's eyes are focused on you and you alone, your mind goes blank and you have no muscle memory. Commonly referred to as a fear of winning. It normally only happens on the biggest of stages.
I have experienced this very recently and still im struggling with it. From this video I actually found out I had this. 2 months ago I joined my first pro football academy which is a massive thing to do. Huge step forward in my career. For about a week I was on my A game but then all of a sudden during a training session I no joke forgot how to kick the ball. I was one of the best coming in and then boom out of the blue I was playing like ive never played football before in my life. My performance lately has been so terrible my coach had to pull me out of sessions and games because I simply couldn't compete. At times I really worry that I will get kicked from the club and my career would colapse, but watching this video and reading some comments gave me some hope as I am now aware that this is a phase that I will get pass but it also allowed me to look back and realise why I was having the yips. My confidence is non existant. One bad session caused me to feel pressure and then that caused a domino effect. My team mates made fun of me as im known as the 'shit new guy'. I am the joke of my club and the worst part is that all this is happening during my most important moment in my career. I wanna reach out to a sports psychologist or any sort of psychologist to speak out and crack open my mind and issues but my parents think that its just unnecessary and I now feel like I dont have much options. I even get anxious for training sessions as if they were a big game. I just wanna feel and play like I used to, with confidence, happiness and without thinking much. Someone help, i am struggling.
Hang in there bud, keep at it.
at this point just go back to your roots and play for fun. theres no help in overthinking your performance since it makes it worse and also makes the sport unenjoyable. you have nothing to lose at this point so might as well loosen up a bit and maybe you will end up gaining your confidence back
Thank you for uploading this freaquantly!❤
I'm goign through this with dirt jumping my MTB right now....this video helped.
I had something similar happen when I was out on anti depressants about 6 yrs ago. I got off them within 2 or 3 months but I developed a yip for certain fine things I try to do with my hands. I used to tech deck at a pretty high level and I can't even flick an Ollie anymore.
Nah dude, it’s just space jam monsters doing all of this bro.
Wow mate, your video editing has really improved and youve got a great channel. Cheers.
Some people can handle pressure and some people claim they can until the lights come on
have you guys seen space jam?
The yips? No! Its a group of aliens stealing their athletic abilities so that they can beat a team of looney characters in basketball game
Hi Jimmy, Good point! I play squash and when I used to compete, I would get nervous over the simplest of shots, I knew how easy I could win them but I choked and played a different shot or something worst. I would naturally choke in the sport during the beginning of the match, I would serve the ball out about 5 times and hit the ball out, whether hitting the tin or hitting it too high, or just missing. I always ended up winning by a little. A way that helped me to get out of that nervous wreck zone is to establish a routine. Music never worked for me, especially rap or hip hop, nothing that pumps me up. I need total and complete utter silence. Then I get nervous but accept that feeling and tell my self it is okay. I use two mantras, just have fun/this is for fun, and keep calm and carry on. These mantras were great and helped me play better after the first 8 minutes of the match, I stopped overthinking and just played, I used more of my instincts and I won.
You should do a video on the opposite of "the yips". An explanation on how athletes can get in "the zone" and play at god like levels!
that is actually so interesting, i literally know the exact thing. 1 day i just couldnt do volleyball serves anymore, did it everyday and then it was just poof gone, 1 year later i still cant server a volleyball
WHAT?! this is a thing?
I had been playing soccer since 5 years old. Select teams. Loved the sport so much!
One year, I just forgot how to kick the ball with any lift. I couldn’t clear the ball!
I could run and do everything else.
Not bragging. Truly. But I was one of the best on that field at all times. I practiced constantly.
My coach had me separated from the rest of the team, with the assistant coach(!) just kicking the ball against a wall for 2 hours a day! I just could not kick like I had been kicking for 10 years prior!
It took an entire season to rectify.
I have never even heard of anything like this until this video. I played 25 years ago!
Great video and Thankyou!!
on the topic of badminton, in high school when we played i had never played it before but form the first time i picked up the racket i was literally the best player between the 2 classes that did p.e. together. i had no idea how it was, i was destroying people more so than i did in other sport than i ever had...people thought i was an expert. we didnt have a badminton team at our school so once school ended i just never played again because at the time i never seen people really take it to serious and knew no one who really played where i was from
Jo i like this everyday uploading thanks for the effort :)
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Loving these back to back to back videos :)
Rick Ankiel is my favorite example of the yips. He was a very good pitcher, but suddenly lost control and kept throwing wild pitches. Eventually he had to switch and become an outfielder.
The kicker is as an outfielder he became known for arguably the best arm in baseball. He could hit the strike zone from the outfield wall, about 400ft away, but not from the pitcher's mound that's only about 60 feet away.
Grew up playing multiple sports having success in most. Have always been laid back, never very anxious at all, and performed my best in high pressure situations (multiple buzzer beaters, insane comebacks in tennis, and so on). One day in college when I was 20 playing flag football for fun, I dropped back to throw a football and could not throw a spiral for the life of me. It wasnt even one of those wobbly spirals, it was wobbling so bad i couldn't throw past 30 yards, in highschool I could throw 60 yards. Took 2 years and then it just started clicking again. Never over thought about technique, was always self taught, it just clicked and I can throw again. Have never had any mental disability of any kind and never took sports seriously, just had fun. Still can't explain why I just stopped being able to throw a football for 2 years of my life.
Fact about Steve Blass' yips, it's heavily implied even by Steve himself that his yips were caused by the tragic death of Roberto Clemente who passed on December 31st of 1972. Clemente passed attempting to send aid to hurricane victims in Nicaragua.
As a musician for 10 years, this happens to me too and is common amongst musicians too.
Something of this sort happens to me when I'm writing sometimes. All of a sudden I'll forget how to make a letter or be unable to start my signature. I always chalked it up to the fact that I rarely physically write anymore, like with pen and paper.
I’m an artist and musician and I have experienced this before. Sometimes this is triggered when you leave the flow and become conscious of your surroundings. It feels like your body isn’t doing what you need it to. It’s very weird and scary
As a gymnast i have lost my ability to flip until having to completely re-learn it, despite flipping for years
I know a guitarist who had a similar issue whenever they had to perform - their hands just wouldn't play the notes properly. They told their doctor and he prescribed them a beta blocker, it stops some of the physical symptoms of anxiety like a racing heart and it worked like a charm. Supposedly some lawyers also take them when they have an important part of a case to argue. Not sure if they're suitable for high intensity athletetics though.
The yips sounds a lot like stuttering, when I was a kid I was fairly good at speaking my home language, but when I was introduced to school I didn't know much English so I had major anxiety from any interaction, it totally messed me up. My parents thought I got brain damage/stroke or something, since I couldn't even make full sentences in the language I already spoke. Luckily once I hit my teens my parents realized it wasn't going to go on its own and took me to group therapy for kids with speech impediments, where they concentrated on relaxation and confidence building rather than anything physically wrong.
3 videos in 2 days! Enjoy that Stella man!
You commented about missing this shot in badminton, because of feeling the importance of this point (game point). I've often had the same thing in football (soccer), when i was about to score (in amateur leagues). Sometimes my mind would go blank, and i wouldn't really know what to do, how to position my body, where to shoot, even though i practiced this same kind of position all the time. Most of the time would recover and score, but a fair number of times, i would miss what would otherwise be an easy goal, because of that weird feeling.
I love the classic "This video is brought to you by squarespace."
I have had this thru MANY Different times in many different activities. Skateboarding, cooking, writing, baseball, so many things...
I've experienced this as a racecar driver. It's so weird... It's like one minute you can perform at this most optimum level of performance, then the next it's like you're back to square one learning all over again. Can be extremely frustrating and demoralizing.
Jimmy, these daily uploads are so awsome!
I shoot 3D archery among other stuff but target panic is the same situation just called something different.
Oh yeah I definitely can get the 'yips' when I realise the value and reliance of something I've worked hard to learn or value about myself, it always comes from over thinking not instinct, but being overly thoughtful is just part of trying to conceive of every possible way to improve and questioning if what you're doing is the best way to do it and then the instinct goes out the window. It takes me 1 month + to make a youtube video, and when I upload and take in all that has gone into it I often toy with the thought that I might not be able to recreate that as it's been a considerable amount of time since I started that process fresh, but ofcourse the instinct and taking things as they go makes it seem too easy, I can't speak for the condition of not being able to come back ever, but I certainly get that feeling and can need a mental break to come back to baseline
I read about something like this years ago, specifically in relation to musicians who play string instruments. From what I recall, it's basically a result of being too focused and practicing too hard. Similar to how your muscles get stronger in a particular way from particular kinds of physical activities, your brain tries to reshape itself to suit whatever you're doing. What seems to happen with some musicians, though, is that the parts of the brain involved in controlling their fingers start to "expand" to the point of overlapping, leading to interference between different fingers. They'll touch a string with one finger and feel it in a different finger, then try to move one finger and involuntarily move another one as well. For full-body activities like gymnastics, I can imagine it feeling like you've just forgotten how to make your body do what it's supposed to do.
The most similar case i had was related to cubing. I'm not a professional speed cuber or something like that, i do it for fun, one day i decided to solve a cube after 2 years without touching it and my muscle memory worked fine until i forgot how to do a J Perm (it's quite a long algorithm), i looked a tutorial and got my muscle memory back after 1 min, BUT literally the next day i couldn't do it, even following the tutorial i was struggling. Took me 3 hs to do a J Perm without thinking of doing it.
Here's a modern version for you.
I ride a Onewheel XR for 5 years now.
Been hit run like 5 times not at fault.
Dislocated shoulder, broken ribs broken spine, vertebra pushed out.
I've had drivers intentionally hit me I've had drivers try to run me over like they're pushing me down the road try to run me over not like they tried and just drove past.
I'm not trying to show off I'm just getting at the point that I can take beatings get back up and keep going if not having to heal and the between time but I'm not afraid of getting back on and doing it again it's my point.
Now I've nose dived my OWXR before. But for weeks after I heal it takes me time to get used to leaning forward and pushing through the fear of injuring myself.
I just can't ride over 18 mph it's a lack of confidence. But after 2 weeks go by and all my injuries are fully healed my confidence comes back and then I can shoot down the road at 20 plus mile an hour again.
I wear a full face helmet full body armor some of the most expensive reactive armor on the market and the shit works.
I'm not crazy I don't have a death wish I just don't wish to quit a sport because someone else is bad at driving. An making a right hand turn without looking right before you hit the gas and the pedestrian/bike/scouters.
I have a very bright red and blue flashing light have a strobe light going off but yet none of this stuff works if the person isn't even looking both ways or intentionally trying to hit you.
This is really true for a people who solve rubiks cubes fast, every time they realize a position is a potential personal best breaker or even world record at the higher levels they freak out and put on an extremely bad performance.
A friend of mine did his phd on dystonia in the hands. Very interesting subject that impacts way more people than you'd think especially in jobs that require a lot of writing.
5:00 aww man the guy trying to throw the darts. I felt for that guy. he was going through it
My daughter was a team GB acrobatic gymnast British champion and ranked 2nd in Europe she grew up in the gym and is the reason I now love watching people do parcour after seeing them go big or going home in the safety of the gyms but anyway my daughter got hit with the yips after qualifying for the world's in a mixed pair fighting the block nearly destroyed her mentally and after managing to fight the bloke to go and not let the other gymnast down she unfortunately left the spot and more than that she never started tried parcour :(
Vids getting soo good 💯
For the psychological yips, I think it tends to become a feedback loop of conscious processing that interferes with performance which should ideally be an unconscious process. If you ask an athlete what they are thinking about during a bout of top tier performance in "Flo-State", they will most likely say nothing. Conscious processing is too slow and usually only useful during the learning phase of a skill.
I played a lot of tennis on the club level. One year I tried a new racquet. I hated it, but trying it out, my body I "forgot" how to lob. My body just refused to do it. It became an awful problem because in warm ups, you have to hit the opponents easy lobs so they can warm up their overhead. I just couldn't lob. Some opponents tnought I was faking, but I wasn't. I took lessons, I did everything I know to do and finally one day, I could lob again. Until I saw this video, I had no idea this was a "thing".