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As an uneasy ceasefire continues to hold in Eastern Ukraine, VICE News returns to Donetsk with an exclusive film that follows some of the characters involved in setting up the self-proclaimed state of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR).
In early April 2014, pro-Russia rebels seized the regional administration building and other key institutions in Donetsk, expelling Ukrainian officials and raising their own flag. The rebellion here - and other incidents elsewhere - quickly escalated into a bloody civil war that has left over 2,000 people dead and displaced more than a million.
Filmed over six weeks, this documentary follows the chaotic birth of the DPR as it tries to forge a path to independence and closer ties to Russia.
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you know they are pro Russian when they wear track pants with armor.
Gopnik military
lol.
Stfu
@@Ingen.17 Stfu
@@Ingen.17 #ихтамнет
GIVE ME THE FLAG
GIVE ME THE FLAG
*throws flag*
*flag falls*
BLYAT
@@TheMoneyMavericks with an Motorcycle Helmet, that Looks like a stahlhelm... ahja
@@NaughtyBear1337 M16 helmet = bad person
@@1forest120 the helmet looks like an Mixture out of an M35 and M42 Helmet
Donbass is Ukraine.
@@Johntb100 yes
The events happening now have a much deeper history and tension the more you learn about it. Good documentary here.
Ive been following this series as it came out as no major western media covered it properly my heart breaks seeing it again so many lives wasted for nothing...
@@cannedstarfish6194 Exactly. What those western countries are doing, pumping more weapons into Ukraine, is the opposite of what would help bring negotiations back and peace closer. Unless NATO actually gets involved, the Donbass is independent from Ukraine so I don't see why they still do it unless to fuel the war like they did in Syria - almost exact same, but instead of jihads they use they use the armed forces of Ukraine, which for the most part are not Nazi.
It is true that Russia is the aggressor, but context always matters, *always* Ukraine is simply a pawn in this chess game of west *vs* east.
It should have gone 8 years ago when this war started but the same main media that manipulates also hides information
@@cannedstarfish6194 The problem with that statement is that Ukraine had a government that didn't care about their people's life or rights, that ended up with the revolution in 2014. Then Russia invaded and stole Ukrainian soil. The land that was promised to them when they gave up all their nuclear weapons in the agreement that Russia would never attack their country. The world should 100% continue to send weapons to Ukraine so they can protect their own sovereignty and fight back the dictatorship of Russia and let the Ukrainians get back their own land.
It's ok but it's biased towards Ukraine and not for DPR.
2023 here. I can't help but wonder how many featured in this documentary are still alive.
if more than 0 then I'm not pleased
@@vene4ka It's virtually impossible it's zero....The Donboss "volunteer" battalions were shredded pretty early in the war. Russians used them for mine clearance/machine gun finders before Wagoner brought in the penal battalions. Every fighting age male in this video is most certainly dead/wounded by now.
@@birddt3 As a resident of the republic, I am I want to say that you are half right. Many people died, but some survived. Also, Russia almost did not participate in 2014, only arms supplies
Благодарю за внимание, если прочитали
@@vene4ka by that you also mean people who were held by this terrorists and were shown in the video, so pick your words
Quite a lot. Andrei Ryabinin, nicknamed "Lenin", went through the whole war and remained alive, recently I would like to ask him some personal questions. Roma from the anti-corruption department went to Crimea, Maxim did not join the militia, many protesters stayed at home with their families.
19:17 - pulls out gun
19:27 - realises there’s no magazine
19:30 - realises he’s lost the magazine
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Worst action hero ever
All of it to settle a fucking road rage dispute
they all seem stupid af
Obviously a bunch of thugs working for Putin, Referendum was rigged obviously😩 feel sorry for the poor Ukrainians who literally had no voice to stop this, they were attacking them in the street! This was the start of Putins invasion of Ukraine.
The whole video is Slav meme
It is the real war, your comment is not relatable.
The guy who shot this deserves an oscar. I feel like I'm there. Great reporting too.. I'll miss Vice.
this separatists have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to this people as Ukraine is winning this war and gaining ground everyday, russia just gave Ukraine the power to get rid of Separatism and reclaim the territories that belong to Ukraine, this people were deceived by russia
Vice ain't gone tho. They just uploaded yesterday.
@@Assfucker0001 they announced bankruptcy a few months back but they are still around
@@ramirezjuan0715 fr? Damn that's crazy didn't know that
@@Assfucker0001their reporting has significantly reduced in quality though
“We don’t want war or young guys dying for nothing” welp you got that now
They've been bombed for 8 years. This is not the beginning of the war, it is the end of it.
Exactly
Watched this video more than once and the fellas that can't spell "referendum" nor get the flag right crack me up every time
@@bruno_kunda For such an incompetent group of people, they have been pretty dman successful in overthrowing the Ukrainian government in the region.
@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist because Ukrainians are no better
@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist *Ahem* Russia
@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist its obviously faked wtf. You guys believe this is real?
@@halcyonXT How do you know it's fake? Smartass.
18:02-18:40 is my favorite part. It's even funnier if you know Russian.
This documentary provides such a good context to the current events in Ukraine. Well done Vice
right, this one is different too "8 year before"Donbas documentary, highly recommend
It is horrifying that terrorism and war have taken hold of east Ukraine
You have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to your people has Ukraine is winning this war
yeah its really sickening how russia had so many people already in ukraine before to overthrow them.. and brainwash them all
one sided tho .
"Politics is a prostitute" greatest quote ever
In a way, political candidates do whore themselves out for public approval
29:14 It's just like something straight out of The Office.
I'm thinking we need a Donetsk People's Republic sitcom
LMAO
Imagine if they have talking heads like the office
So it's ethno-nationalism vs ethno-nationalism? Wonderful.
BrainBytes It's a reaction people have when being violently targeted for being loyal to their previous government that was also violently ousted by thugs. And technically, the land was Russian but was given in exchange for several things. But the Ukraine has squelched on their deal so I'd say they're taking it easy on the Ukraine when contractually the land should go back to Russia since the contract is no longer being honored or recognized. Don't you think? Either way, it's between them and no other country should get involved financially or militarily.
I express solidarity to the the DPR, but in the end, they are being used by Putin right now. The communists that made up the republic are losing power in the face of Russia's neoliberalism. The days of the USSR are (sadly) gone.
That said, I recognize Crimea as free from Ukraine, and if the the rest of eastern ukraine wishes, they should be allowed as well.
I'm only concerned this is going to devolve into what my post said: two ethno nationalist sides foghting it out, one side supported by western powers, and the other by Putin.
BrainBytes Hmmm. Well I'm not sad the USSR is not in existence, nor are any of my in-laws currently living in Kiev and Russia. And I'm not sure what you mean by being used by Putin. Would it be bad geopolitically for Putin if the EU grabbed Ukraine? Of course. But it would be equally bad for the people in Ukraine. And culturally speaking it would be the death of any nuclear family values. I guess I'm not seeing how they're being used or exploited when it's mutually beneficial.
But did you not just say that other countries should stay out of this both militarily and financially?
Regarding the USSR, it was the other superpower preventing the US from becoming the sole superpower. It prevented what the US wants right now, military and financial hegemony of american interests around the world. While the USSR has a terrible past regarding human rights violations, I am in the camp it could have been saved, albeit some restructuring (perhaps more of a confederacy).
We're seeing this in NATO's expansion eastward past germany, which Bush H.W and NATO promised Gorbachev wouldn't happen in exchange for a united germany. With the collapse of the USSR, that deal disappeared. The Ukrainian conflict largely stems from NATOs expansion into Georgia and Ukraine, and the pressure it is putting on Russia through this.
In regards to the exploitation by Putin? Like I said, I admire the DPR for standing up against Ukraine's semi-fascist government. But, many of these separatists are former soviet citizens or communists who want to return to the system they had before. Now that the DPR is more tied with Russia, that wing of revolutionaries and leftists no longer have influence, and instead are part of Putin's plans of political posturing and economic neoliberalism.
That's mainly why I don't see it as mutually beneficial, but instead as a lopsided deal for the DPR.
BrainBytes Well the end goal IS to become one with Russia. They simply had to break free first from the Ukraine. Regarding America, it's the NWO (and yes NATO is a big part of that) that Bush was so fond of, rearing its ugly head only now the status quo calls it globalism. The EU was the giant first leap for globalism. The democrats and a good chunk of republicans are huge supporters of this. There is a lot of money to be made in globalism for a circle at the top, the next tier does it in the name of utopia, perfect world, no boundaries, no race, no gender, no class etc. So they work the propaganda and push it through the system in the name of equality and love. Keep both parents working and children raised by the system because it's about 'gender equality'. The rest at the bottom suffer greatly with no voice. This is what ruffles Putin's feathers. Putin is doing his best to model his country, as is China, after the Nationalist and sovereign America circa 1940. But globalism is a poison that seeps into the youth and this strikes fear in nationalist sovereign nations. They see the coming threat. This is why the recent reactions to and policies on homosexuality and pornography have come up in Russia. Russia and China have both stated recently that the US was great once but has completely fallen. There is very little respect left.
It's really funny when you think about it. Trade the word communism for globalism and it's like the US is becoming what Russia was depicted as, and Russia is in the shoes the US was wearing long ago. We now hold the poison dismantling values and governments with corruption.
I did mean what I said about staying out of it. But this does involve Russia at its core. I'm just an average Joe talking, I'm not Secretary of State. America should stay out of this. But our opinions don't even matter so who the fuck are we anyway.
This is like a gmod server I swear
29:37 "politics is a prostitute. It goes with whoever pays more"
I think we've found the main motivation of the Donetsk separatists...
Russia has therefore successfully bribed 4 million people in the Donbass? Props to them
You know, if someone made a movie exactly like this, i would watch it. Its very interesting having a look to the inner situation, the struggle between the different factions, and the aftermath.
You should watch Bloody Sunday (2002)
MAD FOXES (1981)
The aftermatch has began
Donbass (2018)
@@pisvis5746 More like an unexpected twist
mistake by vice. vice typed the lyrics of the russian federation anthem, instead of the ussr anthem which was sung
you're right...you can clearly hear the line, 'along the great path which great Lenin did lead'. This whole report is sketchy as fuck though anyway.
to mount the video is propaganda when you watch the video and remember all the spots where cut these pieces
bruh the people litteraly have the orthodox double headed eagle with a saint in the flag and sing the ussr anthem
@@Manowar_ They're just following Comrade Jesus's teachings
@@terriblehumanbeing8117 based
“They are less than human.” “ They must die” who are they starting to sound like?
th-cam.com/video/S9SOVarOFJk/w-d-xo.html
like ukrains
need not worry anymore, the West has abandoned Ukraine.
@@waffenanimebut they’re not Ukrainian. They’re anti-Ukrainian. What’s the point of your comment?
@@waffenanime but they’re not Ukrainian. They don’t like ukraine. What’s the point of your comment?
Jesus, rusky mir is even worse than I expected.
Haha, is Russian Mir bad because it helps people who wants be with Russia be with Russia ?
@@ludaivanova7916orcs go back to moscow orcbot, people there wanted to live free lives.
ruZZia planting a coup is none of their interest.
Lenin heard the word "revolution" and woke up from his long nap outside the Kremlin
Also they weren't saying Donetsk at 1:32, they're saying DONBAS
Ay it’s supreme leader
Almost comedic but with an underlying charge of hysteria that could turn murderous at any time.
Aged well
Ah, what an accurate prediction.
Historically important piece of work. Thank you to the reporter.
7:26 - are they seriously calling that old couple fascists while an entire mob is harassing them for having different beliefs? Who's the fascist?
10:23 - it's crazy how people can be so hypocrite to accuse Ukraine of being a fascist regime while there's stuff like this where any kind of political opposition, is destroyed and punished with violence. Quite literally like in Nazi germany or Fascist Italy
Keep crying, those territories are Russian.
@@AK-cp6br - bruh I'm not crying, to be fair it seems like you're the one crying, I raised two perfectly reasonable points, to wich you can't or don't want to respond. Showing how close minded, biased and brainwashed you are. You can't even think with your own head. Use your eyes, at 7:26 a mob of people is throwing objects to an old couple while someone else shoves them, only because they have a different opinion. This is not a civil society, this is pure fascism, the complete lack of freedom of speech. The oppression through violence. At 10:23 they're straight up threatening him to break his legs. I honestly feel lucky I'm not as dumb as you lol
i think it was prrobably more about "klev g0vt and their people" which they recognize as being a n*zl-muscle-vanguarded c0up govt when saying that.
and idk about here, but a lot of times early on there were attacks on older ppl during 'commemorations' because they were literally veterans of n*zl gen0cide m4ssacres the UPA or O UN-B did who would come out in uniform, and the g0vt started supporting marches and monuments for them while outlawing s0viet symbols and marches and celebrations and songs, and there were clashes from s0viet descendents who fought the f*sclsts.
possible also this guy was some politician or oligarch or something (many olgarchs funded the early n*zi battalions,like ih0r k0lomoisky, zelenski's financier did). he was wearing a suit and his wife had a really fancy looking handbag. none of the locals seemed to have such nice things on them.
@@AK-cp6brI often wonder if y’all realize how the world views you guys and the many comments similar to yours. You look like a maniac, a homicidal lunatic who, surprisingly, is also retarted.
“Those territories are Russias forever”!
What? Not one territory is fully occupied by Russia, and soon 2 will be fully occupied by Ukraine. I bet you’ve never even stepped foot on the territory you speak of.
Now just imagine that your town was one of these territories and china held referendums with half the town and then declared it Chinese territory forever.
Every day I see multiple comments like yours and it’s shocking. I’d really love for this to happen to you, so you can tell your story on TH-cam letting everyone know what’s going on, and hundreds of Chinese people in china blowing up your comments, ‘too bad! It’s chinas territory now-CRY MORE!!’
Yep
2022 watching this with the Ukraine - Russia war. My heart is bleeding. May Justice go to the people who really deserve it.
Same here. Its hard to find the truth with a biased news.
@@Nanosk3 what news do you watch?
@@Nanosk3 RT or Sputnik?
@@dontcomply5008 I watch a little bit of everything. You can hear mainstream everywhere but I’ll try to find independent news to hear another side.
@@NihilSineRex1881 if RT and Sputnik was the opposite of CNN or MSNBC than the truth could possibly be somewhere in the middle.
мда... люди в масках слушают криминальный рэп, кидают камни в стариков и говорят о "независимости". печально все это.
24:29 "there was no independent verification off the polls and no independent monitors"
Russia, what a beautiful democracy
Lol.. any soul with an ounce of sense has filed these animals wrath. These are truly sub humans scum and their actions have led to more death and suffering than anyone could predict.
@@Hugh-Glass fucking Nazi
@@Hugh-Glass There's that nazi talk again that led to this conflict....
The way homie lost his magazine sums up the entire organization of Donetsk and Luhansk lmao
Brilliant you couldnt make this shite up,, the head of security driving around in a stolen car trying to shoot someone for flipping him the bird, quality
And then taking about how God saved his life because he saw his good doings ...
Priceless delusion
"Are you afraid of something?"
How about the masked guards and the government employee who just threatened bodily injury over stickers? Is that the sort of thing someone should be worried about?
Maybe if the punk didn't belong to USA funded right sector then he would've been treated like your average misdemeanor case.
***** I don't care what someone is suspected of doing. If you want to pretend you live in a free society, they are innocent until proven guilty. Also, in most free societies, having and promoting a political view that is opposed by the current government is not considered a crime.
Don't get me wrong, the US (where I live) fails at this in a lot of ways, but that video was the sort of thing that cops here would at least try to hide, not use it as an example of properly conducted law-enforcement. Actually, that's not entirely true. You should see some of the insane SWAT videos that are used as examples of well-executed raids.
And yes, the US meddles in the affairs of other countries way too much, but that doesn't justify treating some kid like a violent criminal because he happens to agree with a group you don't like.
*****
They didn't get beaten up because they were filming you idiot, how dense are you even? Holy shit.
@@download333 Since you are American, btw I am not Ukrainian nor Russian and I am not affected by this, do you think there is any difference between Russian and American interference, be it by army deployment, overthrowing governments, funding some political parties, etc. I mean, Russian influence is presented as bad, and American and EU as good, but for me ruling a country from the outside is bad no matter who is pulling the strings, so i would like to hear what an American thinks.
@@hamsterman32 Ukraine wants NATO and the EU, funny how they wanted Russia until Russia invaded Crimea
What's with this influx of people who suddenly think they're experts on Russia-Ukraine relations and the history of the two countries? NPC's, the lot of you.
Compared to what, your god-knowledge of these countries?
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Compared to nothing. I don't claim to be an expert, but most people in the west couldn't point to Ukraine on a map if they were asked to.
Notice those who support Ukraine are all young and the ones who don't are older.... Who has seen more since the fall of the USSR.
USSR - famine
notice that there were a lot af protests for ukraine in donetsk and luhansk in 2014, but russia did their best to stop those protests
If i've learned anything as a latvian then it's that arguing with old russian females is as useful as watching the paint dry. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience especially if they outnumber you. There's no reasoning with them.
How is it going in Latvia now ? Your government must be really repressing Russians
@@mrditkovich5817Colonial russians should not be in Latvia to begin with.
@@mrditkovich5817 considering how the Latvian identity survived centuries of Russian repression I'd say that their own repression is very tame
@@C-Farsene_5If they lived centuries of repression they wouldn't be here to begin with. And even if Latvia got repressed, then it's not acceptable to begin with, and we cannot accept that a bullied person becomes the bully.
@@mrditkovich5817 yeah..Latvia and the baltic states were held by Tsarist Russia and later the Soviet Union for a couple hundred years in total, some ethnic groups just hold out longer than others for example the Tatars which have been held by Russians since Ivan the Terrible's Kazan Wars. I get that Latvia shouldn't be so racist to a group who won't always be supportive of Putin's actions, it is a sad situation and hopefully (once Russia stops eyeing the baltics so hungrily) Latvia too would stop being so repressive of the Russians
i love how they claim to be anti fascist but are super fascist
@Muslimcel How ironic look at what they've become, nothing better than NAZI Germany.
@@kobe4212 Bro this crowd is Jan. 6th all day, you live on a different planet
Its fascists against fascists there and both say only the other fascists are fascists hahahaha
@@kobe4212 interesting how you call Democrats fascists but it seems the only people trying to strip others of their personal liberties is the Republicans. Oklahoma just passed a ban on abortions and more states to follow, next it will be women's rights in general. Republicans are bonified ISIS and won't stop until there is Sharia Law. They are worst than Facists they are theocracats.
@@kobe4212 This looked just like January 6th. A bunch of corrupt angry people storming a government building.
Fantastic documentary - summed up by the ten seconds after 4:30 - the head of the anti-corruption department stamping documents then immediately accepting a bribe on camera
You understood it wrong, it wasn't a bribe! They assigned a sum of money to buy a pistolet on black market. After the acception of deal the anti-corruption guy demands to take a look on the purchase. It can be seen at 4:55
so the anti corruption head buying a firearm on the black market is fine then? lmao@@alexeig127
I hope those two student girls are safe. My heart is with them
a bit of sanity in a sea of lunacy
@@tuntematon_hiiri Ukrainan tukeminen on fasismia? Vitun pelle
@@orcho141quite the opposite
The horror of the situation is that pro-Ukrainian people moved to live in Mariupol and the suburbs of Kyiv. Where hell was in 2022.
what a clown you are@@superiorshotgun4348
RIP he lost his favorite beating stick, I feel bad for him.
So sad he can’t beat people with it. So sad. :(
Best part is 'security officer/offical' or whoever that thug is flailing his gun out of the window of his car, threatening some random dude on the road. Best way to explain what this DNR is in just 30 seconds. "Look, it is their head of security, do you have any more questions?"
Yep. I feel sad for those people.
I think he described all ideology of putin: "rules exist for breaking them".
@@letsimage Sounds more like NATO
do your own research about concrete cases @@DMlTREl
Seems like Budanov
It’s weird to watch this in 2024.
They remind me of MAGA morons in 2020
I wonder if even 50% of the people in this video are still alive.
How are they talking now?What has Russia brought for these idiots?Poverty,unemployment, mobilisation, crime,wars.They got what they deserved.
А почему они должны быть мертвы?
@@melhiorlector2680 they're terrorists so it's better dead
@@melhiorlector2680Ukie artillery
If this is not nazism then I don't know what is.
Well, it's certainly not nazism. But it's definetly authoritarian nationalism.
you dont know for sure
Bag full of crabs. Of course there are similarities, just as there are many differences. But you can't label every far-right nationalist movement as being National Socialist just because you feel like it. Because Nazism is an ideology built on very specific ideas which permeates all aspects of the political system.
No it's not Nazism. It's a society of thieves. I don't want to badmouth Donetsk, but a great chunk of those people are descendent from criminals. And most of them are criminals themselves. Why? Well, there a lot of prisons there during the Soviet times, and instead of letting them roam around in a cell, them sent them to mine coal. I mean there are still a lot of normal people in Donetsk but they are not a majority.
Jews
Is the DPR just a country-wide reality-show?
Muggawumps Im from LPR and yes, kind of
Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 12:15
22:57 You bring in a bunch of thieves and thugs into power and act surprised when they act like the wild animals they told you they were.
29:26 Screw you guys, I'm going home!
If these people truly believed what they were doing was the best for their people and country they wouldn't wear masks and ask cameras to go away.
And do referendums without external supervision ...
lmao
u dont hide ur face from ur ppl u hide it from ur enemy
@@abdelhakwinston6200 Yeah exactly
Советую посмотреть на основных участников майдана. Спасибо
truly a relic of an era. ive been a kid when crimea has been annexed and I still remember wathcing bout the crimea's annexation on TV, when I've been on 6th grade. so much time has passed..
That very last sentence he told his little boy said everything
Why are people so stupid? Did they forget? I'm Slav, and when I asked my grandfather how it was when Russians were occupating my country, he just shakes his head and told me that he wishes me never to know.
They sold there soul to the devil, thinking it was god.
'When Russians wre occupying my Nazi country, that demolished millions of Slavs, Russians weren't very nice :(' HAHAHHAHAHA
@@rodricksteal1729 What Nazi country? Chechia? Yugoslavia? Tito fiercely protested Stalin for crimes and rapes committed by the Red Army on ALLIED Yugoslav territory. But Stalin wanted him to close look elsewhere, to pretend it never happened..
oh, what Nazi Germany did on Russian territory cannot be compared with any other crimes. During the siege of Leningrad alone, which lasted more than 800 days, a million people died from hunger, cold and shelling.
@@ionbrad6753Rape? There's no way to prove that. Besides, we've had good relations with Serbia for a long time. We are brothers and sisters with them. There are indeed a lot of Nazis in Ukraine and they are in power who chose Nuland (there are phone records). What about how America bombed Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia and etc.?
USSR also claimed to "just fight with fascism"...
While doing what instead?
Sobakus Well, they of course helped with winning the WW2, but they used anti-fascism card to excuse all their crimes against humanity like sending democratic leaders to prisons or camps. That's the problem of totalitarian systems - it's always someone else to blame for wrongdoings of the government. They always have to have an enemy.
Sobakus Like taking over countries like mine - Bulgaria. Forcing us to pay contributions, and be thankful for putting us on our knees for the last 70+ years. Acting worse than the fascists themselves.
Jacek Neumann Fair point.
Silviya Tsvetanova Could you elaborate on the points you've just made? I'm not aware of any forced payments, any knee-putting or, indeed, anything worse than what the fascists did happening in Bulgaria during the Soviet rule.
Those peoples lived much better during USSR. Much more were killed by democracy in Ukraine, than commies.
12:16 what’s the songs name…
what is the name of the song in 12:18
So basically, Russians kicked out the local rebels and moved in the little green men.
***** Truly revolutionary. What next, deporting Ukranians to North Korean labor camps in some dictator oppression exchange program?
Actually 'the little green men' were in Crimea. And they had the right to be there 'cause of treaty between Ukraine and Russia that was about naval bases.
There in Donetsk locals made everything by themselves hoping Russsia will send them troops. But that would be illegal. So there is no russian army in Donetsk. Only volunteers from Russia, France, Afganistan and some other countries.
Why everyone blames Putin for the shit made by Obama in Ukraine? That's Obama who said americans are exceptional nation and only USA has the right to decide what is right and what is wrong in the world. Look there guys! There's your agressor who sent Blackwater into Ukraine in winter. Of course these guys are private military. But they are taking part in every conflict US started in the world. Speaking of which, would you remind me how many conflicts were started by Russia that are not near russian border-line?
Sergei Shamanski Have you seen the people who showed up at 31:56 ? Because they were Russian soldiers. BTW, the treaty didn't include the seizure of Ukrainian government buildings in Crimea so they were acting criminally as well, just look at VICE videos from that time.
Sergei Shamanski
The treaty covers naval bases in Sevastopol, not government buildings and Ukranian military bases in Crimea. Talking about treaties, Russia signed a treaty as well in 1994 Budapest Memorandums - "1.The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine;
2.The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;"
And isn't it kind of strange how all the supposed local officials are all russians? Also - ura.ru/content/chel/01-10-2014/articles/1036263086.html - 90% of the squad are Russians, locals don't want to fight, they fled or are hiding. This is no civil war, never was. Had Russia not intervened, Ukraine could have had a new government already. And if there was some concern in East Ukraine the elected local officials could have negotiated with the central government.
I am going to pose this question to you. If an armed group of rebels sprung inside of Russia, claimed a bit of land and called it their sovereign country, A - Do you think Russia would use armed forces to reclaim their land? B - Do you think they would be right to do so? Now me personally, the answer to both is yes.
Petr Jaroch Have you seen troopers in crimean operation? Now compare them to this people.
Meanwhile in Scotland nobody was threatend, beaten or killed because he/she wanted to stay with Britain.
crazy how most of the people in this video are probably dead now
You mean the Ukrainians who fought them 😂
alright lil bro whatever u say lmfao. both lpr and dpr elements have pretty much been completely destroyed since shortly after the full scale invasion@@grimmerjxcts2206
What is the background music for the beginning?
"They are monsters. Less than human. They must die." That sounds really fucking familiar.
Yes same to what the Ukrainian army is saying and their nationalist groups.
@@marxismfeminismmaoism9408 surely you are joking
If this doesn't open your eyes to how fragile this world really is. At any minute we could be back in world war and for next to nothing.
comment aged well
Thanks to Americans
@@htatesil4192 thanks to russian aggression, always trying to upend the world order.
@@htatesil4192americans dont even know where ukraine is on a map, the terrorist country right next to ukraine and their fascist Z ombies are a disgrace to humanity and the cause of every war and land grab in the 21st century in this region
whats the song at 12:17 ?
Need some denazification in these regions
Great work! Very informative as well as entertaining - I couldn't stop laughing at 8:20 where they started painting their own flag the wrong way and couldn't spell "referendum". And, the episode where Roma tries to shoot out of his car window and finds out that he has forgotten his ammo - priceless!
I hope everyone who created this abscess on the body of my country is now in hell, which is quite likely with the Russian policy of destroying those involved.
Long live the DPR
Donetsk:"Donetsk People's Republic"
Ukrainian Hyrvnia -50000
That was just hilarious! True nationalist willing to die for a flag they don't know how it looks like even. Weird, to say the least
@@DialecticalMaterialismRocks DPR is Putin's invention
Back when Vice did journalism.
they wanted to live so independently that their flag consists of Russian flag's colour and as you have seen what country they joined in the end. this is true independence?
They made the flag, didn't they? It's similar, but is it the same? If they are seeking independence it is because they have their reasons, if they want to join the Russian Federation, it is because Russia is superior to Ukraine in all aspects, economic, educational, cultural, etc. The fact is that, without the support of Western leaders, Ukraine would not exist today, and will probably cease to exist soon, also due to the deficit in the birth rate. Furthermore, I am a Westerner, but I will never support the taxes that we Westerners pay being used to finance the war of you Ukrainians, even though military financing is starting to lose strength after the failed counter-attack by the Ukrainians.
They wanted to be independent from Ukraine, not Russia. Problem?
"Politics is like a prostitute, it goes with whoever pays more."
Only half smart thing ive heard from these separtists.
z
@@heidyguzman6623 z is your swastika
That quote is 100% true
Russian Seperastists or Nazis Ukranian NAtionalists take your pick. End of the day they all have Russian families. they are all RU.
3:38
Santa claus is coming to town
Lmao😂
28:40 +99999 social credit
Long live Peoples Republic of Belgorod !
What Tf Are You yapping About our Seeds Born out Of Sweedish Women..
"Your body is your collection, want to keep your collection"
Gouky Best quote from the video, apart from all the cuss words used by men lol
What's Good Personally, I liked "wheres my beating stick?" and "fuck his mouth"
wmr0225 those are quite good too
33:48 Probably the best quote of the entire conflict.
Now a legacy of hatred, anger and violence will be left behind and inherited for the little kids of Ukraine, Russia, EU and Malaysia.
A little late, but why Malaysia
@@eminem2996 was wondering about that too... wonder if it has anything to do with the downing of their commercial jet?
@@bengchiatseah3908 Because Our Citizens Are Killed In The Conflict Bruh
@@eminem2996 MH17 plane, a Malaysian civilian aircraft was downed by the DPR
He was talking about the USSR not the joke of a "country" Ukraine is.
What's the name of that song at 07:40 ?
7:00 what these girls think the EU would bring them. I think they were very much misled.
Dugin is facist, an russian facist.
True
It's not their fault
@@ruka.3217 they are "Soros girls" created by Soros without knowing even of hus existence.
They want to be part of the women empowerment purple/pink hair lgqbt EU fasicsts
NOW I FUCKING GET IT!!!!! I understand the whole "russian world" idea! You just have to connect 4 dots: Putin, Yanukovich, Post-Maidan Ukrainian gorverment and DNR(Or russians in general).
Yanukovich was a crook and a thief and UA russians loved him, just like RF russians love Putin, who basically is the same, a crook and a thief. Ukrainians wanted to oust these thiefs out of their lives BUT DNR(Russians) revolted. Why? Because they stand for the same! Thievery, thugishness, corruption. And just look at the new "DNR" goverment! I mean people call russia mafia state, in that case i don't even know how to look at DNR, because atm they are leagues above RF at these things + the whole "wild wild west" mentality of their "goverment"(Thugs, nationalists, fortune soldiers, random drunkards, "cool guys", thieves - in summary people you wouldn't want to meet late at night on the street). Russians just love them and want to be governed by them. Now why they want that is anyones guess
No you didn't get it at all.. The "pro-western" leaders in Ukraine were as corrupt if not more as Yanukovich..
You are spot on mate, these people are not fighting for freedom, they already had it, i can give you a cast iron guarantee that the people in Ukraine have a lot more freedom of expression then the people now living in these places do. It was all bullshit, everyone who tries to stick up for these people will always throw the word Nazi in your face but that was just Russian propaganda the truth is the people of Ukraine wanted rid of a corrupt president and they got it. The people you see here stand for the kind of fucked up behavior that the real Ukrainians wanted to get rid of in the first place.
Konkurs Really, please explain how they are corrupt ??
What If,I say to u Ukranian goverment is Ukranian-nationalistic now,and Ukranian nationalists,don't like russians so much,so eastern Ukraine is fully russian,and they do,watch Russian TV,not Ukranian like in other regions.They support Russia,cuz Ukranian gov-t claimed 3months ago,that they are,going to ban russian language. I think they know what they are struggling for,and u r still blind,cuz u watch vice and vice don't show the situation at all.They show DPR as the empire of evil,and Ukraine as a young democratic country,things are not otherwise,but they are not like vice's describing.
Rebel Bo Ukrainian government is not nationalistic, you russian troll. I am Russian, I live in Ukraine and speak Russian since my childhood. Nobody ever banned me for Russian language. But russian propaganda always uses scary stories about ukrainian nationalists who will kill you just because you speak russian. This is complete bullshit. The fucked up russian TV was one of the reason of this war. With total lies It scarred people so much that they started to kill pro-ukrainian people. And what we see now? They totally ruined their own lives because of their stupidity and completely destroyed business and economics in their region. The main idea of DPR is robbing, stealing, killing and wearing the mask, telling stupid people that you're fighting against fascizm.
LOL Lenin is like screw you guys i'm going home xD
29:14
Now that the worsth thing that could ever happen is happened seeing this made me understand that this war and this whole situation are more complicate than a normal person would think
Yes, but it didn’t have to be. They changed the TV antennas in all the separatist occupied houses to Russian outlets, which spewed lies to them about “Ukrainian terrorist attacks”, like the odessa fire which was specifically mentioned.
How complicated can it be. Fascists invaded Dombass and Crimea in 2014 in disguise. Brought unseen devastation and misery, terrorized the population and raised innocent kids to be meat in a future war. Now those kids are serving the purpouse in a full scale genocide, guided by the war criminal himself and his mafia gang.
Однако Евромайдан вам понравился... Двойные стандарты. Обе стороны бились за независимость, одни бились за независимость от России, другие боролись за независимость от Европы.
@@RolePlay-vy6dtthe difference is that Europe didn’t send soldiers and weapons to euromaidan protesters. Russia has sent soldiers, volunteers and weapons including freaking tanks since 2014.
@@cesverc Sorry but these guys at this point didn't look Russian funded. Barely have weapons and the results of the referendum were damning. Why is the West so interested in keeping these people in Ukraine's hands when they clearly want no parts of it?
It's sad that kids are kind and reasonable than some adults are full of emotions.
6:45
Ukraine/EU: Hot girls
Novorossiya: Old soviet nostalgic aggressive thugs
3:35 damn! Santa's in the mix, wtf?!?
If this is the second biggest city in Ukraine before the invasion and over 80% of the people voted yes in the referendum. Looking at the footage, is not that many that are joining in.
Its Not, the Video even Said Second biggest in eastern Ukraine.
12:15 what is the name of this song
Sounds like something from kino
33:27 Is that supposed to be Stalin?
Luhansk is Ukraine.
@@russiaexitcrimea2203 wrong
Free Donbass
Donetsk used to be called Stalin
@@CottageHound lol
I thought America was fucked. Glad to see Russia is much worse off
America is still fucked.
We're all fucked.
***** No, but all this was caused by Russia. When they decided to invade a sovereign country.
how is russia fucked ? this conflict is happening in Ukraine, but you propably don't even know where that is.
offizieller Kirchenjesus Check out their current economic situation. That's how.
... Not that this video actually shows anything to do with that, mind you.
So basically Ukraine is keeping these people hostage.
How do you loose a magazine 💀💀💀
They declare to fight fascism, while they act as fascists towards those ones who don't share their opinions. Pretty ridiculous.
You need to watch the Vice News series Russian Rilette and there is the true evidence since 2014 not justa war but a systematic genocide of modern times.
sorry for the late reply, but they are absolutely justified in that. they're at war with official government of Ukraine. for example, OSCE has been spying on Donbass for years, people got killed because of that... plus this documentary obviously wants to paint them as crazy separatists. there's always two sides in every story.
@@stvk99 I know how the west lies on their very experts even in courts. The main media is full of lies and propaganda of thier agenda. The nazis it is now normalised on NATO and US. Britain doesn't even practice democracy but autocracy with power transferred by inheritance. You have to analyse and see the evidence. The main media distorts the turth and hides what could thraten tehir agenda, the true they call misinformation. They don't care anymore as they are already on their last mission invasion to Russia. Ukrainia was always on that objective as the excuse to attack Russia vast natural resources like hyenas all against one.
Irony of the Russian invaders
@@reanimationeas342 They aren't invading, they live there.
It's like witnessing the devolution of Human Beings. Totally surreal. Totally frightening.
Makes me never want to travel anywhere near Russia.
Just think about those old fools who beloved in Russia now …. Houses gone probably dead. Nice one
whats the name of this song ? дна Сегодня мне Можно я рад и не рад
12:30
"Stalin did at lot of good things"
uh, ok
Yeah he did...Before him the Soviet Union had the industrial capacity a fraction that of Germany(A few years after after ww1)
In 1938 The soviet union was equal in its industrial capacity to Germany(just before WW2)
He might have achieved results in fairly Pragmatic means but that doesn't mean he didn't achieved good results sometimes...Focusing Always on the negative is not a good thing if you look at all historical leaders you will find many times a more balanced picture then what was made in the education system...
***** you know who else wasnt to bad eh?
Rémi Gauthier I am not saying he wasnt bad but saying he didn't do anything good is a lie...
***** You do realize the same thing could be said for Hitler right?
Rio8D Yes i know...I just hate propaganda...Its my own pet piev...
Last bit was very touching with the dad and his son.
@@bololollek9245 Sad demise of the Ukrainian population
I wonder if some of these hooded DPR men are currently dead?
And they call ukraine nazi
That guy at 12:00 is gonna be really disappointed when people get beaten in Russia for expressing their opinions and are guilty until proven more guilty.
Why do the people running the so called "Donetsk People's Republic" remind me of Trailer Park Boys
anyone know the song at 12:25?
Ah yes, Russia, a place so famous for being tiny and overpopulated, you have to annex new lands to live in it
wasn't russias idea though, it was donetsk and luhansk idean the asked every year sice 2014 and 2022 russia finally did it, they wouldn't have gone further if ukraine would have just given up the regions but yk karma strikes ukraine now.
@@User-dc6sm yeah right, its just that they've sent a few soldiers and provocateurs over there and the main guy in charge of the DNR separating was a known ГРУ agent, but I'm sure the Russians had nothing to do with it, sure buddy))
@@User-dc6smDPR and LPR don't exist. Stop believing lies and realize that the real world is not in your favor.
@@clau0072 because that's a weak states move.
@@User-dc6sm The outcome of Russian nationalism and irredentism on full display.
i love how these guys denounce the EU and its supporters as "fascists", yet they act like fascists...
pff... there's not even freedom of speach..
In the name of diversity and political correctness in the UK they will put you down through hate speech laws and cut throat tactics for anything mildly offensive you say online, freedom of speech is dead practically in western europe thanks to leftist's and globalists in government, not to mention socialists who are not far fetched from actual communist's in ranking positions, they poison our western democracy's although i can agree with you they do indeed act like one party supporter's its not all that different in the EU now aday's for what id expect they would be willing to push next
freedom of speach gives the right for stupid people to speak up.
At 25:19 it says that decision was unanimously in favor of joining the Russian Federation but that paper says decision was about conducting a referendum with 78 in favor and 0 against. There was nothing about joining Russia at all.
exactly
Crimea skipped to membership in the RF while the LPR and DPR went for a independent approach.
It is very absurd that these people thought they were free and independent once reunited with the fascist Russia. Are they blind? Only those in Moscow live in better life while other republics are being slave and in dire poverty. There is no freedom in Russia only authoritarian and oligarchy!
Yup
On the other side there's democratic Ukraine, with the tv channels closed by Zelensky, with the men hunted by the Ukrainian army officers like a dog all over the country.
You don't live in Russia, you haven't visited Russia, you don't even seem to have studied or researched in relation to the 2014 civil war. Russia is superior to Ukraine in every aspect, economic, political, military, educational, absolutely everything! Ukraine is a corrupt country with a presence of fascism in mercenary groups supported by Kiev. Ukraine without help from the West is nothing! we are tired of paying taxes to finance your Ukrainian war. Donbass will have a much better future as part of Russia than as part of Ukraine.
Revisiting the video hits different nowadays. As a person who is from Donetsk it hits quite hard. I still support my people but it's ridiculous since my last comment 8 months ago.
How's life going on there?
@@olbincm pretty mixed. Just hoping the war ends.
@@YoboiLy Same. Good luck man.
@@olbincm much appriciated. Good luck to you aswell
@@YoboiLygoodluck comrade , hoping for a quick victory
I like the Soviet-style interrogation by the pro-Russia commissar who takes the kids' stickers, goes through their cell phones and threatens to beat them with batons all while his brave henchmen hide behind masks.
Отличие от украинского в том , что украинский не угрожает, а бьёт, а здесь просто серьёзная беседа. Знаете, а это очень не маленькая разница.
@@malicbobaгарне порівняння, але воно тільки на словах. А докази, або відео є тільки про допити сепарів. Так само як зараз, російські війська ріжуть та гвалтуют і навіть не соромляться це знімати та оприлюднювати.
@@malicboba Shush vatnik. We have seen what you people do to others.
@@pykakpa6a84 and the ukrainians aren't doing the same thing...? Rhetorical question.