It takes a high level of critical thinking to be able to see things as you do. Don’t be discouraged by all the contrary comments. JWs have to justify their fears, their passivity, their willingness to be enslaved and deceived to themselves and they do so by criticizing others. What you’re doing with this channel is important, needed, and much appreciated. I hope you continue!
Well said. I have a friend who is waking up to the JW's, ex-elder like yourself, and he says it all the time... What if they're right? The mind control runs deep.
Yes I am a ex JW I used to be so strongly indoctrinated. But I catch myself asking myself what if they are right. But once I look at the bigger picture, I know they are not ❤
Well said and explained brother. I'm with you 💯 percent. They are wrong period. I used to have that feeling also. Not any more. I feel sorry for those that do. Produce more videos. They are needed. Many blessings to you and family from The Father and Son. Ismael, Kingdom Christian Witness of Jah from sunny 🌞 Puerto Rico.
@@JIM-xf4omNo religion is right the are good and bad aspects in all religions. All religion's have a agenda it's really not that difficult to understand. Religion is just the middle man between you and God god or a HP
Because of one's beliefs...... If Jehovah IS GOD'S name, why can't it be used in our worship....???? You speak of the sins JW's do but forget the sins of the OTHER so called Christian churches, priest and alter boys....???? Ministers having relations with people of their church....???? Rember we are all sinners, we were born that way....And WE ALL can succumb to the desires that the devil puts in front of us. But now we have people that are trying to get richer posting on You Tube. Dude you have to get a LOT of people watching your video,,,,,,, I'm sure Jehovah will bless you in your endeavor to dis-credit his name.......(sarcasm)
Only the evil he does at one point in this life like the Pharaoh got wiped away for idol worship and hurting people and got put into hell you are right because if we fault ourselves and keep transgressing after the truth has came to us and we don't repent and do better then it is our fault that we go to hell not God's
People are free to believe what they choose. I don't know of any religion that is perfect because they are created by man. I honestly don't know exactly how I feel about these people but I admire them for their work as ambassadors for their belief. In some ways I think I have always had a place in my heart for them. The ones that I know are wonderful people.
The court ruling in Norway regarding continued approval as a recognized church has shown that they are only interested in the millions of euros they have lost through generous donations. Money even causes JW to suddenly find the right Bible passages (which of course have always been there) in order to change the principle of "shunning."
100 % right! After 30 years in this sect I too have flashbacks but ten minutes of reading the Gospel and seeing Jesus teaching and acting shows me that by no means he would ever be a JW.
Wrong because God said anyone see his face will die......Satan is not even afraid of Jesus ,he even ask Jesus to bow down to him......He would do that to God.................
I was born into and raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I was baptized in 1972, when I was 12, my "decision." I have been disfellowshipped twice, once for 22 years and I am currently disfellowshipped for the second time, for several years now. I even was baptized into and a member of the Baptist Church for awhile, during my first disfellowshipping. I am presently physically disabled from a traffic accident 2 years ago, and I am single, live alone. My older brothers are JW elders, and we all live distances from each other. Of course, they want me to return. I don't know what to do. I don't know WHAT to believe anymore. I still have a feeling that they are right, because of their stance on pagan holidays, political neutrality, talking to people about God's Kingdom hope, not tolerating the practice of any form of sexual immorality, the resurrection hope, paradise earth, etc. I have always lived in a state of unending conflict. Here I am 64 years old, no family, no real companionship, no real hope for the future. Maybe I can just keep trying to stay in the present and stop worrying about it. I have never, EVER, felt truly free. I occasionally attend a JW meeting at the local Kingdom Hall. I enjoy being there. I can still walk with a cane and drive. Thanks for considering this long epistle. 🙂
Hello, my friend and brother. Like you, I have been out for over ten years and have continued to attend meetings and conventions on some level. Regarding your post, I would simply urge you to continue reading your Bible. Through prayer and supplication, Jehovah will answer you with what direction to go in one way or another.
@hmapp I've read through all your different comments below. To me, it is very clear you are a current JW posing as an ex and working to prop up the GB and the Org. I can understand why you do this. All the comments and arguments by JWs on these sites are being refuted and burnt by logical answers. The more you all tried the more JW lies were getting exposed. Hence, someone higher up in the Org has thought of this new and 'brilliant' tactic. You ppl never learn. Deceit and lies are so much a part of you and your culture and identity as JWs. Pls try this somewhere else.
@@hmapp I've read through all your different comments below. To me, it is very clear you are a current JW posing as an ex and working to prop up the GB and the Org. I can understand why you do this. All the comments and arguments by JWs on these sites are being refuted and burnt by logical answers. The more you all tried the more JW lies were getting exposed. Hence, someone higher up in the Org has thought of this new and 'brilliant' tactic. You ppl never learn. Deceit and lies are so much a part of you and your culture and identity as JWs. Pls try this somewhere else.
I agree 100% with you. I don't want to worship a God that was all for ethnic cleansing and the murder of innocent men, women, and children who were just living their lives. Flash forward, I wouldn't want to be the beneficiary of a beautiful house on the water in a serene setting for all eternity at the expense of 8.5 Billion lives in the greatest slaughter in the history of the universe. It always bothered me that so many JW's had no problem, and actually smile, with the thought of living forever as everyone else on earth dies, so long as they get their paradise - truly disgusting. Give me a life to live and I will live it my best way possible, and then come what may.
@@JIM-xf4om They just changed the teaching so that now some of the people of Noah's day and Sodom and Gomorrah MAY now be resurrected. Unfortunately, they still had to drown along with their families and all the animals...hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Reminds me of the Josiah video they put out in 2019 where his friend asked him,'What is Baal is real?' He said why would he worry about that when he wasn't? Zero percent chance JWs are God's people. I no longer have any fear of an Armageddon punishment.
Caleb, I am surprised at your conclusion! I have been out for over ten years, but what the Bible was urging the Israelites to do regarding the scriptures cited and your conclusion that life in the new world or system-you know the terms we used 🙂-you are satisfied with "Living one lifetime" here in this demoralized world! Wow, that shows a lack of maturity and spiritual growth. I was in for forty years, but I have grown so much spiritually and developed so much more emotionally. I look forward to the new system and, as the bible says, the 'REAL LIFE ". I appreciate your honesty!
I am happy you are finding your way back. I hope to do the same thing at some point. I have lived with so many conflicted feelings for many, many years. 🙂
I am happy you are finding your way back. I hope to do the same thing at some point. I have lived with so many conflicted feelings for many, many years. 🙂
@@timnicholas1832 Thanks. Although I have been out for over ten years, I have been at the meetings and conventions on some level. The one thing I have learned clearly is that Jehovah doesn't leave his sheep as long as there is an effort to stay connected to him.
Thank you so much for the kind words . I was brutalized by this group . Wife and I loved with out hesitation. When she needed help to overcome alcohol she was brutal df I was part of their damage. I see today a whole differant wonderful God outside these control religions and doctrines. Thank you so much
That’s the exact phrase that my JW mom told me over 20yrs ago, ‘Vic, what if we’re right! I would never take that chance on leaving jworg, as we’re so close before Armageddon comes!’ And that was way back in 2004!
Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.The JW’s are wrong watch Sam Shamoun debate jw’s in the Bible it clearly says Jesus is the Alpha and Omega.Read Isaiah 53 that verse is way before Jesus existed.
I left the JW cult before I ever questioned their practices because I figured I must be one of those ppl who does not belong. Now that I have thought objectively about things and realized how harmful their beliefs are I’m also convinced that they do not worship a loving god. Like Neil Degrasse Tyson said roughly: god is not all powerful or not all good. If god is our heavenly father why does he allow suffering when he can take it all away in an instant? No normal, loving parent would allow their child to suffer on purpose. All this to say if JWs are right, I will happily be smite down because I refuse to worship a god like Jehovah.
I recently had this discussion with my brother. He was saying how King David was imperfect and made mistakes, but he was still still chosen by God. To that I replied, so does that mean that all religions of Christendom could be God's channel and they are just imperfect and make mistakes? Of course he felt that this was an unfair comparison. 😂
5:50 "I would much much rather live one lifetime being loving than earn an eternity by being cruel" Can't get any clearer than that 👏 When you read the Bible without any apologetic publication alongside it, just the Bible, there is no way anyone could desire to worship such a cruel God...
Rev 21:1-5 You wouldn't want to be in that new world? Caleb unfortunately you have a become one of Satan's desciples and truly apostate. I will pray that you come to your senses and repent for your apostasy as the merciful loving God Jehovah would forgive and forget... as you already know this Bible truth.
@jeffmccoy9656 True love and compassion shouldn’t require the extermination of more than 99.9% of humanity. If God values love and mercy, I believe living lovingly toward all people reflects that better than preaching an upcoming global genocide. If that’s apostasy, so be it - I choose love over condemnation.
It’s been proven that all religions are made up. There’s no real evidence of the supernatural. Only things that we interpret as such and add “agency” Two things that should be explained as other things such as psychological phenomenon, physiological things, natural occurrences in nature, etc. Evolution of religion is something people should look into. Overtime humans adopted different ideas to explain the unexplainable.
After I left the Org I asked a business associate/ friend who had also left(years before I did) if he ever wondered if Watchtower might possibly be right. His answer was yes he had. And then he said that after thinking about it he came up with ‘if Watchtower is right that one day the world will only be populated by Jehovah’s Witnesses then I’d rather be dead’. So that makes at least 3 of us😁
Their god is Satan! Jesus said the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one. Take comfort in Jesus’s example and message, who said that these things must happen, but don’t be afraid! And don’t for a second think that Satan isn’t smart enough to have influenced the bible record and those who wrote some of those books! People underestimate Satan, thinking they are smarter and protected! Sorry, but that’s just not true. Religion is not the way! If I, in all my imperfection, can think the smartest way to turn people against god is to form religions, then just know he’s way smarter! Stay true to Jesus’s message, love, love and more love!
I first left in the early 80s, no internet so I was just acting on my gut. I re-studies in the 90s only to confirm my gut was good. It was not until I had access to Reddit when I stopped having those nagging feelings though.
The prerequisite for having Gods approval is to be a sedevacantist Catholic until such time as God appoints a new Pope if he so wills, or takes the Papal office for Himself, it is also necessary to be obedient to Christ & to pray the Holy Rosary & the Hail Mary frequently. Only the 15 decade Rosary, not the luminous mysteries. I don’t even care how crazy or unpopular this is, the truth is as described by Most Holy Family Monastary.
4:44 Think about this though Caleb. God hates sin so much that every human since the beginning of human kind have died. Since the flood, mankind’s general lifespan is 70 or 80 years. That is judgement from God. God even sacrificed His own son to save the world. God is sovereign, and is in complete control, but since the resurrection of Christ, He has told everyone who belongs to Him to listen to, and obey Christ. This is the only way to salvation.(Acts 4:11,12) JW’s do have the devil as their father, but of coarse they are not alone. Some have left and now serve God in Spirit and Truth.
well Who resurrected Jesus according to the apostles in a world that peopel dont even know who listen prayers Acts 5:30 The God OF OUR FOREFATHERS raised up Jesus, Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of OUR FOREFATHERS, has glorified his Son and Servant, Jesus Our Father and Father of Jesus, Jehovah [the God of Abraham] gave his name to Moses in the Old Testament. Exodus 6:3 King James Bible And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. John 8: 54 Jesus answered [to the JEWS]: “ If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, the one WHO YOU [Jews] say is.. YOUR GOD [JEHOVAH]
I have a question that burns within me. I first studied in 1972 but eventually got baptized in 1977. I was convinced it was The Truth. I have special pioneered, moved countries and travelled the world with it. I've established congregations in served in different lands. Every country I visited I preached in it. I have studies with over 100 that became JW's themselves. I had my moments of doubt particularly as WT Study conductor in 1995 with the change in the generation. Then 2015 with David Splanes nonsensical change. My question is. Was this ever the Truth when I first became a JW and at some point has the gb has turned apostate? Or was it always a lie? This plagues me.
I feel the same too 😢 we are all God's children that's all we need to know , the mind control runs deep , I worship God my way , been truthful and kind , i don't but my trust in earthly men gov body , take care all the best it's not the end it's the beginning , life his for living 🙏🤗
@@Sonia-dg7ux I totally agree. Whether there is a god is open to debate now I think. I am so happy I’m not long on the rat wheel. I just think now that religion and god are all a big money spinning con. We have to be loving and kind to each other that’s the whole purpose. I’ve found that people I used to class as “worldly” and under Satans influence are great kind people.
@@Sonia-dg7ux so nice to live without the feelings of always not doing enough and the guilt that goes with it. So happy to have achieved happiness and peace of mind and heart
I totally agree with you, and although I have been out for a little over ten years, those GB members who have errored have to answer to Jehovah. And if Jehovah has allowed it I accept but they will have to answer for their action, you keep doing right by his standards, not men 🙂👍
What does one believe when there seems to be nothing left to believe in? I truly believe there was a creator. But god?? Idk that I believe there is one anymore. What if the whole Bible is a lie??
I think some of the bible maybe correct . It may contain some historical facts, but the reat is just a collection of fables .. There maybe intelligence out there, but I certainly don't think there is a " loving" God . We have to find our own way to live happily .
It’s like you’ve never read God’s word. I don’t understand your reasoning. Just because you feel something is wrong, doesn’t make it wrong. We don’t know the full extent of those “wicked” events you speak about, and nor do we see the bigger picture, back then or in the future - He can take lives, but He can also give life back. You’re living in a very different time where you have no idea what it’s like to fight for your life like people in nations did back then. So, you’re telling me your stance would be that of “JWs” back then, you’d rather have your children be harmed by your enemies than protect them through warfare! To your point about giving your children life - you and your wife didn’t give them life - you enabled life through a complex pathway - you were given the gift of enabling life. You have no clue about giving life. Many of your points about Watchtower are valid, but the ones about God are seriously flawed. It’s like you’re finding justification for living however you want to live. I get the feeling there’s more beneath the surface here and I don’t want to come out here and say why I think that is as I could be wrong. But there’s definitely more than meets the eye. Things that are hidden.
Whether JWs are right or wrong, i feel like the argument here given is based on or can be used against any religion who puts faith in the Bible. Reading pasaages like the ones cited always make me question why God allowed and even demanded things to happen the way they did.
I was all on board with you UNTIL this video. The JW’s have a lot of things wrong with them and their theology (especially on the prophetical side of the house), however, I believe that the BASICS are correct. If Jehovah says that something must happen, then it must happen. The Sovereign God of the Universe is allowed to make the rules.
Yea, as it's your conclusion, it's very unlikely that this story will fillfill, but in 1000 years or let' say 50.000 years we will look to Jehova again, or maybe another god, I hope we can dismantel this horrorsstory from the Old Testament and live in peace th-cam.com/channels/zPU7cPUFkY5DSsye_DA5xg.html
God made the sun, but it sucks cuz it's super hot. God made humans, but we grow sick and die. Jw is truth, but evil rules the earth. The Bible is in The Legend of Zelda.
I think the correct question would be what if the Witnesses were right about certain things? They cant be right with their track record. You still will have to enter Heaven as a child (a beginner) and being a JW doesn't lean the scales in your favor. Now from a living perspective its not worth being a JW your whole life when you only get one bite of the apple of life.
😂 one thing that always intrigues me about ExJW community is that all your videos sound like people trying to justify their actions and deep down you know that not Everything about being a JW is bad.
I don’t think Caleb ever implied that everything JWs do is bad. But even if they do some things right and are generally nice people, that doesn’t make the religion right.
It's because the mind control is hard to shake, and I for one have to watch these videos every night to free myself from the control. I am glad there are people willing to make these videos . Some are better than others, but if it helps them, then good for them, and if they get good enough to make some money from it, that's a bonus
@@freebird197 Trust me is not mind control ....every time i want to be one of them i get kick out for or disfellowship for not following God rule now a cult will never let me leave ,I just have hard time giving up my worldly way like looking at porn..i want to be a Jehovah witness so so bad.....................
Ah... While I admit that the New World Translation is wrongly translated and leaves its readers with a lot of false doctrine, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Rejecting God because you don't like the marching orders that He gave to the Israelites is going too far. While we may not understand why God acts the way He does, we do have to assume that it is right and just for Him to do so. The Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong about a lot of things. Jesus IS God. The Holy Spirit is a person, not a "Force", and He is also God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all one God in three persons. Hell is a real place. Souls continue to exist even after a person dies. We know this because Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Since He IS their God, that means that even though their bodies have died, their souls live on. I could go on, but you get the point. The NWT is a corruption of the Bible, not a translation. Even so, they are not wrong on EVERY point. Yahweh did destroy the world with a flood. He did destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. He did destroy Pharaoh's army when they pursued Israel into the Red Sea. He did tell the Israelites to drive out and destroy the Canaanites from the land that He had promised to Abraham and his descendants. Likewise, after many years of wickedness and idolatry on the part of the Israelites, He chose Assyria and Babylon to drive Israel out of Canaan and into exile for a time. God is just, and His punishments are just. It is important to remember, though, that God does not want to punish. He wants to bless us. The reason that He sent His Son was so that we could be redeemed and restored to fellowship with Him. In the end, He intends to make a new heaven and a new earth, and to live among the redeemed in a New Jerusalem. He is a God of mercy first, and judgement last.
That's the thing about THIS religion. What THEY say goes!! In order to THINK AND BELIEVE as you do, we have to reprogram and build up from the bottom up. Our entire lives have been scripted, and to research and understand as you do( very well understanding) does not come without judgment or damnation. He's getting his emotions out and as time goes on things will prosper for him and others who left. Understand, it may SOUND absurd, but imagine being in this CULT. It f*ks up our entire life. Give him grace❤
Learn about Islam brother you seem very smart and the Quran is perfect and will help you understand the real God not a evil God that they think we are accountable for our actions. God wouldn't ever say to murder children or hurt woman only the ones hurting you aka self defense
It takes a high level of critical thinking to be able to see things as you do. Don’t be discouraged by all the contrary comments. JWs have to justify their fears, their passivity, their willingness to be enslaved and deceived to themselves and they do so by criticizing others. What you’re doing with this channel is important, needed, and much appreciated. I hope you continue!
Well said. I have a friend who is waking up to the JW's, ex-elder like yourself, and he says it all the time... What if they're right? The mind control runs deep.
I am a Satan worshiper but after talking to the witness I want to join them......................
@@JIM-xf4om so Satan didn’t give you all the success in the world and unlimited drugs and sex?
Yes I am a ex JW I used to be so strongly indoctrinated. But I catch myself asking myself what if they are right. But once I look at the bigger picture, I know they are not ❤
@@JIM-xf4omwhy??
@@CandyMomOf3 Then who is.hmmmmmmmmmm
Well said and explained brother. I'm with you 💯 percent. They are wrong period. I used to have that feeling also. Not any more. I feel sorry for those that do. Produce more videos. They are needed. Many blessings to you and family from The Father and Son. Ismael, Kingdom Christian Witness of Jah from sunny 🌞 Puerto Rico.
1879, 1914, 1925, 1975, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die!" - 1920. JWs have never been right.
The Generation of 1914 Will Not Pass Away. Cover of Watchtower May 15, 1984.
Then tell me what religion is the right one....................
@@JIM-xf4omwhy does there have to be a right one?
@@JIM-xf4omwhy is that relevant?
@@JIM-xf4omNo religion is right the are good and bad aspects in all religions.
All religion's have a agenda it's really not that difficult to understand.
Religion is just the middle man between you and God god or a HP
Yes bro. Xtreme obedience. God never abuse noone. Man does.
Because of one's beliefs......
If Jehovah IS GOD'S name, why can't it be used in our worship....????
You speak of the sins JW's do but forget the sins of the OTHER so called Christian churches, priest and alter boys....???? Ministers having relations with people of their church....???? Rember we are all sinners, we were born that way....And WE ALL can succumb to the desires that the devil puts in front of us. But now we have people that are trying to get richer posting on You Tube. Dude you have to get a LOT of people watching your video,,,,,,,
I'm sure Jehovah will bless you in your endeavor to dis-credit his name.......(sarcasm)
Only the evil he does at one point in this life like the Pharaoh got wiped away for idol worship and hurting people and got put into hell you are right because if we fault ourselves and keep transgressing after the truth has came to us and we don't repent and do better then it is our fault that we go to hell not God's
People are free to believe what they choose. I don't know of any religion that is perfect because they are created by man. I honestly don't know exactly how I feel about these people but I admire them for their work as ambassadors for their belief. In some ways I think I have always had a place in my heart for them. The ones that I know are wonderful people.
You know what, as a born in JW, now ex one, I can't agree to "People are free to believe what they choose". I wasn't, without serious consequences.
Yes. The vast majority ARE wonderful, sincerely good people. 🙂
Yes. The vast majority ARE wonderful, sincerely good people. 🙂
The court ruling in Norway regarding continued approval as a recognized church has shown that they are only interested in the millions of euros they have lost through generous donations. Money even causes JW to suddenly find the right Bible passages (which of course have always been there) in order to change the principle of "shunning."
100 % right! After 30 years in this sect I too have flashbacks but ten minutes of reading the Gospel and seeing Jesus teaching and acting shows me that by no means he would ever be a JW.
God does not try us with evil things ....case closed 😂😂😂
To know what God is like we only have to look at Jesus - Colossians 2 v 9 💕
Wrong because God said anyone see his face will die......Satan is not even afraid of Jesus ,he even ask Jesus to bow down to him......He would do that to God.................
You are correct, to know what Jehovah is like, we look at his Son. perfect reflection of what God is like, his personality.
I was born into and raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I was baptized in 1972, when I was 12, my "decision." I have been disfellowshipped twice, once for 22 years and I am currently disfellowshipped for the second time, for several years now. I even was baptized into and a member of the Baptist Church for awhile, during my first disfellowshipping. I am presently physically disabled from a traffic accident 2 years ago, and I am single, live alone. My older brothers are JW elders, and we all live distances from each other. Of course, they want me to return. I don't know what to do. I don't know WHAT to believe anymore. I still have a feeling that they are right, because of their stance on pagan holidays, political neutrality, talking to people about God's Kingdom hope, not tolerating the practice of any form of sexual immorality, the resurrection hope, paradise earth, etc. I have always lived in a state of unending conflict. Here I am 64 years old, no family, no real companionship, no real hope for the future. Maybe I can just keep trying to stay in the present and stop worrying about it. I have never, EVER, felt truly free. I occasionally attend a JW meeting at the local Kingdom Hall. I enjoy being there. I can still walk with a cane and drive. Thanks for considering this long epistle. 🙂
Hello, my friend and brother. Like you, I have been out for over ten years and have continued to attend meetings and conventions on some level. Regarding your post, I would simply urge you to continue reading your Bible. Through prayer and supplication, Jehovah will answer you with what direction to go in one way or another.
@hmapp I've read through all your different comments below. To me, it is very clear you are a current JW posing as an ex and working to prop up the GB and the Org. I can understand why you do this. All the comments and arguments by JWs on these sites are being refuted and burnt by logical answers. The more you all tried the more JW lies were getting exposed. Hence, someone higher up in the Org has thought of this new and 'brilliant' tactic. You ppl never learn. Deceit and lies are so much a part of you and your culture and identity as JWs. Pls try this somewhere else.
@@hmapp I've read through all your different comments below. To me, it is very clear you are a current JW posing as an ex and working to prop up the GB and the Org. I can understand why you do this. All the comments and arguments by JWs on these sites are being refuted and burnt by logical answers. The more you all tried the more JW lies were getting exposed. Hence, someone higher up in the Org has thought of this new and 'brilliant' tactic. You ppl never learn. Deceit and lies are so much a part of you and your culture and identity as JWs. Pls try this somewhere else.
@hmapp Thank you for the encouragement.
You are expressing my own thoughts and questions!!!!!Keep on making such videos!!!
Nice to see you posting again !! Please keep these very informative videos coming❤
I agree 100% with you. I don't want to worship a God that was all for ethnic cleansing and the murder of innocent men, women, and children who were just living their lives. Flash forward, I wouldn't want to be the beneficiary of a beautiful house on the water in a serene setting for all eternity at the expense of 8.5 Billion lives in the greatest slaughter in the history of the universe. It always bothered me that so many JW's had no problem, and actually smile, with the thought of living forever as everyone else on earth dies, so long as they get their paradise - truly disgusting. Give me a life to live and I will live it my best way possible, and then come what may.
Lots of people were good when they died in the great flood....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@@JIM-xf4om They just changed the teaching so that now some of the people of Noah's day and Sodom and Gomorrah MAY now be resurrected. Unfortunately, they still had to drown along with their families and all the animals...hmmmmmmmmmmmm
@@JIM-xf4om look up the floodstory of the epic of gilgamesh. It is older then the biblical flood story.
Reminds me of the Josiah video they put out in 2019 where his friend asked him,'What is Baal is real?' He said why would he worry about that when he wasn't? Zero percent chance JWs are God's people. I no longer have any fear of an Armageddon punishment.
Caleb, I am surprised at your conclusion! I have been out for over ten years, but what the Bible was urging the Israelites to do regarding the scriptures cited and your conclusion that life in the new world or system-you know the terms we used 🙂-you are satisfied with "Living one lifetime" here in this demoralized world! Wow, that shows a lack of maturity and spiritual growth. I was in for forty years, but I have grown so much spiritually and developed so much more emotionally.
I look forward to the new system and, as the bible says, the 'REAL LIFE ". I appreciate your honesty!
I am happy you are finding your way back. I hope to do the same thing at some point. I have lived with so many conflicted feelings for many, many years. 🙂
I am happy you are finding your way back. I hope to do the same thing at some point. I have lived with so many conflicted feelings for many, many years. 🙂
@@timnicholas1832 Thanks. Although I have been out for over ten years, I have been at the meetings and conventions on some level. The one thing I have learned clearly is that Jehovah doesn't leave his sheep as long as there is an effort to stay connected to him.
So far all your videos echo my sentiments exactly. I only wish my husband would pause to consider these issues!😢
Haven’t they said the world was ending like 50 times now?..
Thank you so much for the kind words . I was brutalized by this group . Wife and I loved with out hesitation. When she needed help to overcome alcohol she was brutal df I was part of their damage. I see today a whole differant wonderful God outside these control religions and doctrines. Thank you so much
That’s the exact phrase that my JW mom told me over 20yrs ago, ‘Vic, what if we’re right! I would never take that chance on leaving jworg, as we’re so close before Armageddon comes!’ And that was way back in 2004!
Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.The JW’s are wrong watch Sam Shamoun debate jw’s in the Bible it clearly says Jesus is the Alpha and Omega.Read Isaiah 53 that verse is way before Jesus existed.
I left the JW cult before I ever questioned their practices because I figured I must be one of those ppl who does not belong. Now that I have thought objectively about things and realized how harmful their beliefs are I’m also convinced that they do not worship a loving god. Like Neil Degrasse Tyson said roughly: god is not all powerful or not all good. If god is our heavenly father why does he allow suffering when he can take it all away in an instant? No normal, loving parent would allow their child to suffer on purpose. All this to say if JWs are right, I will happily be smite down because I refuse to worship a god like Jehovah.
Very well said! Thank you. Agree 100%.
Another great video! Ending was perfect 😂
If JW is right, then Caleb is toast. Samuel Herd will be coming for Caleb 😆.
I recently had this discussion with my brother. He was saying how King David was imperfect and made mistakes, but he was still still chosen by God. To that I replied, so does that mean that all religions of Christendom could be God's channel and they are just imperfect and make mistakes?
Of course he felt that this was an unfair comparison. 😂
Wow, good insight!
5:50 "I would much much rather live one lifetime being loving than earn an eternity by being cruel"
Can't get any clearer than that 👏
When you read the Bible without any apologetic publication alongside it, just the Bible, there is no way anyone could desire to worship such a cruel God...
Rev 21:1-5 You wouldn't want to be in that new world? Caleb unfortunately you have a become one of Satan's desciples and truly apostate. I will pray that you come to your senses and repent for your apostasy as the merciful loving God Jehovah would forgive and forget... as you already know this Bible truth.
@jeffmccoy9656 True love and compassion shouldn’t require the extermination of more than 99.9% of humanity. If God values love and mercy, I believe living lovingly toward all people reflects that better than preaching an upcoming global genocide. If that’s apostasy, so be it - I choose love over condemnation.
They're not!
Then who is................
@@JIM-xf4omdon’t look for who’s right in the here and now. If Christ is right, go with that.
@@johnhelms1485 Exactly. Why does it have to be a specific group? It was a specific group before Christ- the Israelites, and they SUCKED.
It’s been proven that all religions are made up. There’s no real evidence of the supernatural. Only things that we interpret as such and add “agency” Two things that should be explained as other things such as psychological phenomenon, physiological things, natural occurrences in nature, etc. Evolution of religion is something people should look into. Overtime humans adopted different ideas to explain the unexplainable.
What if pigs can fly when we’re all sleeping?
After I left the Org I asked a business associate/ friend who had also left(years before I did) if he ever wondered if Watchtower might possibly be right.
His answer was yes he had. And then he said that after thinking about it he came up with ‘if Watchtower is right that one day the world will only be populated by Jehovah’s Witnesses then I’d rather be dead’.
So that makes at least 3 of us😁
Nah no Armageddon, overlapping generation, not inspired and so on
Your reasoning reminded me of what the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius said about living a good life. Check it out!
Their god is Satan! Jesus said the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one. Take comfort in Jesus’s example and message, who said that these things must happen, but don’t be afraid! And don’t for a second think that Satan isn’t smart enough to have influenced the bible record and those who wrote some of those books! People underestimate Satan, thinking they are smarter and protected! Sorry, but that’s just not true. Religion is not the way! If I, in all my imperfection, can think the smartest way to turn people against god is to form religions, then just know he’s way smarter! Stay true to Jesus’s message, love, love and more love!
I first left in the early 80s, no internet so I was just acting on my gut. I re-studies in the 90s only to confirm my gut was good. It was not until I had access to Reddit when I stopped having those nagging feelings though.
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I love you.
Exactly it doesn’t matter! No one has it right. Don’t listen to me, I am likewise no one.
The prerequisite for having Gods approval is to be a sedevacantist Catholic until such time as God appoints a new Pope if he so wills, or takes the Papal office for Himself, it is also necessary to be obedient to Christ & to pray the Holy Rosary & the Hail Mary frequently. Only the 15 decade Rosary, not the luminous mysteries. I don’t even care how crazy or unpopular this is, the truth is as described by Most Holy Family Monastary.
Jesus wasn't exaggerating when he said the path to life was narrow.
4:44 Think about this though Caleb. God hates sin so much that every human since the beginning of human kind have died. Since the flood, mankind’s general lifespan is 70 or 80 years. That is judgement from God. God even sacrificed His own son to save the world. God is sovereign, and is in complete control, but since the resurrection of Christ, He has told everyone who belongs to Him to listen to, and obey Christ. This is the only way to salvation.(Acts 4:11,12) JW’s do have the devil as their father, but of coarse they are not alone. Some have left and now serve God in Spirit and Truth.
well Who resurrected Jesus according to the apostles in a world that peopel dont even know who listen prayers
Acts 5:30 The God OF OUR FOREFATHERS raised up Jesus,
Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of OUR FOREFATHERS, has glorified his Son and Servant, Jesus
Our Father and Father of Jesus, Jehovah [the God of Abraham] gave his name to Moses in the Old Testament.
Exodus 6:3
King James Bible
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
John 8: 54 Jesus answered [to the JEWS]: “ If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, the one WHO YOU [Jews] say is.. YOUR GOD [JEHOVAH]
I have a question that burns within me. I first studied in 1972 but eventually got baptized in 1977. I was convinced it was The Truth. I have special pioneered, moved countries and travelled the world with it. I've established congregations in served in different lands. Every country I visited I preached in it. I have studies with over 100 that became JW's themselves. I had my moments of doubt particularly as WT Study conductor in 1995 with the change in the generation. Then 2015 with David Splanes nonsensical change. My question is. Was this ever the Truth when I first became a JW and at some point has the gb has turned apostate? Or was it always a lie? This plagues me.
I feel the same too 😢 we are all God's children that's all we need to know , the mind control runs deep , I worship God my way , been truthful and kind , i don't but my trust in earthly men gov body , take care all the best it's not the end it's the beginning , life his for living 🙏🤗
@@Sonia-dg7ux I totally agree. Whether there is a god is open to debate now I think. I am so happy I’m not long on the rat wheel. I just think now that religion and god are all a big money spinning con. We have to be loving and kind to each other that’s the whole purpose. I’ve found that people I used to class as “worldly” and under Satans influence are great kind people.
@mikekent1490 💯 agree I'm glad to , I'm going to enjoy the rest of my life , without been judged they made me a nervous wreck 😔
@@Sonia-dg7ux so nice to live without the feelings of always not doing enough and the guilt that goes with it. So happy to have achieved happiness and peace of mind and heart
I totally agree with you, and although I have been out for a little over ten years, those GB members who have errored have to answer to Jehovah. And if Jehovah has allowed it I accept but they will have to answer for their action, you keep doing right by his standards, not men 🙂👍
Your ways are not my ways and your thoughts my thoughts. Isaiah 55:8,9. The mosaic law was far stricter, than what JWs practice today.
Hi Caleb! Good job on your post. You are on the right track.
It does matter being good is an achievement of this world not an achievement with God........................
What does one believe when there seems to be nothing left to believe in? I truly believe there was a creator. But god?? Idk that I believe there is one anymore. What if the whole Bible is a lie??
I think some of the bible maybe correct . It may contain some historical facts, but the reat is just a collection of fables ..
There maybe intelligence out there, but I certainly don't think there is a " loving" God .
We have to find our own way to live happily .
It’s like you’ve never read God’s word. I don’t understand your reasoning. Just because you feel something is wrong, doesn’t make it wrong. We don’t know the full extent of those “wicked” events you speak about, and nor do we see the bigger picture, back then or in the future - He can take lives, but He can also give life back. You’re living in a very different time where you have no idea what it’s like to fight for your life like people in nations did back then. So, you’re telling me your stance would be that of “JWs” back then, you’d rather have your children be harmed by your enemies than protect them through warfare! To your point about giving your children life - you and your wife didn’t give them life - you enabled life through a complex pathway - you were given the gift of enabling life. You have no clue about giving life. Many of your points about Watchtower are valid, but the ones about God are seriously flawed. It’s like you’re finding justification for living however you want to live. I get the feeling there’s more beneath the surface here and I don’t want to come out here and say why I think that is as I could be wrong. But there’s definitely more than meets the eye. Things that are hidden.
You better get back to the Kingdom Hall before they catch you.........
Those that get it...GET IT! Let him feel as he wants, just as you do…
what do you believe now?
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Whether JWs are right or wrong, i feel like the argument here given is based on or can be used against any religion who puts faith in the Bible. Reading pasaages like the ones cited always make me question why God allowed and even demanded things to happen the way they did.
Interesting. Although why not just save the world time and say your now an atheist and don't follow any religion.
He talking like a witness still
I was all on board with you UNTIL this video. The JW’s have a lot of things wrong with them and their theology (especially on the prophetical side of the house), however, I believe that the BASICS are correct. If Jehovah says that something must happen, then it must happen. The Sovereign God of the Universe is allowed to make the rules.
How do you know whats written in the Bible is true
Was Jesus not a loving man ?? He did a lot of good things ..their God is different
Jesus condoned the Flood together with the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah. Both genocidal actions, so hardly loving in my book.
Western men have become way too soft
Yea, as it's your conclusion, it's very unlikely that this story will fillfill, but in 1000 years or let' say 50.000 years we will look to Jehova again, or maybe another god, I hope we can dismantel this horrorsstory from the Old Testament and live in peace th-cam.com/channels/zPU7cPUFkY5DSsye_DA5xg.html
God made the sun, but it sucks cuz it's super hot.
God made humans, but we grow sick and die.
Jw is truth, but evil rules the earth.
The Bible is in The Legend of Zelda.
I think the correct question would be what if the Witnesses were right about certain things? They cant be right with their track record.
You still will have to enter Heaven as a child (a beginner) and being a JW doesn't lean the scales in your favor. Now from a living perspective its not worth being a JW your whole life when you only get one bite of the apple of life.
I hope this guy is not make TH-cam money for this video.....................
😂 one thing that always intrigues me about ExJW community is that all your videos sound like people trying to justify their actions and deep down you know that not Everything about being a JW is bad.
Amen ...an I am a worldly person............
I don’t think Caleb ever implied that everything JWs do is bad. But even if they do some things right and are generally nice people, that doesn’t make the religion right.
It's because the mind control is hard to shake, and I for one have to watch these videos every night to free myself from the control.
I am glad there are people willing to make these videos . Some are better than others, but if it helps them, then good for them, and if they get good enough to make some money from it, that's a bonus
@@freebird197THAT part!!❤
@@freebird197 Trust me is not mind control ....every time i want to be one of them i get kick out for or disfellowship for not following God rule now a cult will never let me leave ,I just have hard time giving up my worldly way like looking at porn..i want to be a Jehovah witness so so bad.....................
What if Jehovah's Witnesses Are Right?
Then everyone will have a chance to live forever on the EARTH....!!!!
Ah... While I admit that the New World Translation is wrongly translated and leaves its readers with a lot of false doctrine, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Rejecting God because you don't like the marching orders that He gave to the Israelites is going too far. While we may not understand why God acts the way He does, we do have to assume that it is right and just for Him to do so.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong about a lot of things. Jesus IS God. The Holy Spirit is a person, not a "Force", and He is also God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all one God in three persons. Hell is a real place. Souls continue to exist even after a person dies. We know this because Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Since He IS their God, that means that even though their bodies have died, their souls live on. I could go on, but you get the point. The NWT is a corruption of the Bible, not a translation.
Even so, they are not wrong on EVERY point. Yahweh did destroy the world with a flood. He did destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. He did destroy Pharaoh's army when they pursued Israel into the Red Sea. He did tell the Israelites to drive out and destroy the Canaanites from the land that He had promised to Abraham and his descendants. Likewise, after many years of wickedness and idolatry on the part of the Israelites, He chose Assyria and Babylon to drive Israel out of Canaan and into exile for a time. God is just, and His punishments are just.
It is important to remember, though, that God does not want to punish. He wants to bless us. The reason that He sent His Son was so that we could be redeemed and restored to fellowship with Him. In the end, He intends to make a new heaven and a new earth, and to live among the redeemed in a New Jerusalem. He is a God of mercy first, and judgement last.
That's the thing about THIS religion. What THEY say goes!! In order to THINK AND BELIEVE as you do, we have to reprogram and build up from the bottom up. Our entire lives have been scripted, and to research and understand as you do( very well understanding) does not come without judgment or damnation. He's getting his emotions out and as time goes on things will prosper for him and others who left. Understand, it may SOUND absurd, but imagine being in this CULT. It f*ks up our entire life. Give him grace❤
@@Xoxo-mh9zr Of course. I'm afraid it just freaked me out a little when it sounded like he might reject God. I'm afraid I overreacted. My apologies.
I watch a channel of an ex fundamental Christian and she asks the same questions we all do, like does god want us to be robots?
@@JohnWear-j4v It's cool. I understand both sides. All good😁
Learn about Islam brother you seem very smart and the Quran is perfect and will help you understand the real God not a evil God that they think we are accountable for our actions. God wouldn't ever say to murder children or hurt woman only the ones hurting you aka self defense