Buyer beware. Honda is putting a bandaid on a deep wound for cost avoidance. They are on a crash course of major lawsuit. Replacing bearings without a known metalurgical issue is a bandaid. The crankshaft is the problem. All this does is buy time until the engine fails again. Honda doesn't want to incur the cost of and engine out crankshaft replacement in every V6 vehicle. This is egregious. People with any sense at all buy a V6 Honda for its known reliability. Now they are failing like clockwork. This is a nightmare for Honda and Honda V6 owners. How the mighty have fallen.
@@NSXavier997 Thanks. I am a retired automotive engineer. Problem is, when a mistake this grave is made, its hard to recover from it because fixing the root cause, i.e. changing every crankshaft would cost Honda 10's of millions of dollars. So they are putting a bandaid on it and honestly, I see this going from bad to worse for Honda. No doubt you are aware of Honda's infamous oil dilution problem on their turbo 4's....low viscosity oil and loose tolerances used for CAFE, direct injected etc. But this issue, making crankshafts wrong? This is a very big deal. Historically the Honda V6 with timing belt 'was' a wonderful engine.
What I have surmised digging around is....the crankshaft bearing journals which interface with the connecting rod bearings, were wrongly machined resulting in a convex shape (also known as a "barrel" shape). This convex shape can create a point load on the mating bearing, leading to higher friction and potentially increased wear and/or galling of the rod bearing. In an ideal scenario, the bearing journals should be perfectly cylindrical to ensure even distribution of load and minimize friction in contact with the rod bearing.
@@NSXavier997 You are so right. And lack of QC to cut corners in terms of cost and time is going to cost Honda/Acura 'big time' not to mention all the distrust of previously loyal customers. Learning if a crank journal is barrel shipped only takes a small straight edge. Word up to owners that take their vehicle in for this crank bearing replacement procedure. Say you are at 80K miles, the dealer pulls it apart and bearings look good. Chances are, you don't have a vehicle with a real bad crank. Ask them 'how the bearings looked'?. If possible ask to see a cell pic of the bearings and of the crank journals as shown in this video. If the bearings were trashed...which occurs for owners that had failure, even with bearings replaced, you want to dump the car because what you really need is a new crankshaft aka engine rebuild...including all the metal in the engine due to shredded bearings including shavings inside the oil pump.
You are clearly a subject-matter expert; you're also fantastic communicator. My car has this recall, and this video was incredibly valuable and insightful. Thank you so much for taking the time. If only this kind of quality and thoroughness were available for more topics on the inter webs.
Great video, it helped me understand the mechanics of what’s been going on with my 2015 TLX SH-AWD. A few years after purchasing the vehicle on occasion while stopped at a stoplight the car would stall/lock up and would NOT restart. Then after restart, started hearing clicking sounds coming from the engine. When I took the vehicle to the dealer, they found metal shaving in rod bearing # 6 and had to replace the block which took around 3 weeks to complete. Then last year Honda sent me a recall for an inspection of the repair.
Fantastically interesting video. Thank you for this and for explaining it so well; you should be a top level mechanics teacher for an auto manufacturer. I'm just a DIYer, but I was riveted to the screen for the entire video. THANK YOU.
Thanks for making this video. Very informative to a potential buyer in the market for an MDX. Helps with knowing what to look for. Hey, tip for other buys. Ask the service center that did the recall to provide a copy of the warranty work order with parts list. They won’t be able to hide if the crank shaft, or other parts were also replaced.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video and I really appreciate the sub. However, just know that the HONDA/ACURA content will be few and far between from here moving forward, as I only intend to post the failures and bad things that happens to these cars. The content on the channel will be heavily focused on PORSCHE 997 Turbo content along with an emphasis on Automotive Enthusiast culture.
@NSXavier997 that's fine.. the bad is the needed info especially since I currently drive only mdx's... 14.. 15.. 19.. 20.. the 19 hasn't been inspected yet.. 20 was end of year 20 and doesn't seem to be part of the recall.. might just upgrade the 19..
Great information for a consumer, like me, shopping for a used MDX. Exactly, what I needed to know before making a decision. Even Honda isn’t impervious to mistakes.
My only complaint when I talked to HR of Acura or who ever was that called, I asked her that they should make some adjustments and give the customer a peace of mind. Told her that I would have gladly paid to have the other bearing replaced instead of 3 con rods and 2 mains. I told her they should have reached out, said, hey, if you want the rest it will be XXX amount. I would have had them replaced.
Appreciate the sub! Just fair warning, I'm only posting Honda/Acura stuff every once in a while. The channel is now centered around the 997 Turbo and overall car-enthusiast lifestyle.
Went in for the recall today. 2018 Acura Mdx. Honestly I wish they just replace my whole engine. I took the car in because it lit up like a Christmas tree all the warning lights came on. Codes were reading misfire in cylinder 3. Service consultant mentioned this might have nothing to do with the recall but that they’ll proceed to perform the recall and see what happens.
I'm currently considering a 2022 ~ 2025 Acura MDX. Should I be concerned with this issue "potentially" occurring on the newer model? Afterall, this J35Y5 variation has been in MDX for such a long time...?
I might put that out there.. don’t want it to seem like I’m airing my dirty laundry though. I’ll have to think of how I’d make a video on that. The videos weren’t deleted, and I can make them public at any time. Who knows… might just randomly see them back on for a day or two.
Thank you for making this informative video. I just took my TLX in today for crankshaft and bearing inspection. Does Honda extend the warranty after the work is completed?
@@NSXavier997 no way! That's nuts. I meant to ask the dealership last week when it was in (for clunking in steering for third time, even after new rack installation) last week. I would expect a whole new warranty.
Just happened to me, 2015 TLX SH-AWD. Last night, car thru a CEL, cyl 5 misfire. Sounded like a boxer engine from a Subaru. Heard the tick-tick-tick-tick when i revved the engine a little bit. Next morning, 20min later, car stalls and shuts off on the road. Car is at 79,9xx miles. Thanks for your video!
No problem! Thanks for watching and I'm glad it was informative for you. Sorry to hear about your car. Sounds like it'll need a crank. Check out my other video on crank replacement if you want to know more about that procedure.
@@ridge_r4cer yea there’s a possibility that they might just be doing a crank. Really depends on the bearing photos that are submitted and reviewed by the bearing inspection team and whether any of the rods are broken.
@ yes let us know how it goes. In all dealerships defense… it’s not really us who makes the call on which repair procedure gets done. It’s American Honda that has the final say.
How are the later model 3.5’s? Like ‘24 & 25 year models? I just bought a 2025 Ridgeline one month ago, just before the recall issue. I’m feeling a little nervous about the purchase. Dad gum it!
So much for a reliable brand, Thank for the info. I wish you would have shown us all the flat rod bearings you took out. I've rebuilt a few engines with a Ford 5.0l V8 just last summer , so i know what i'm looking at. I now drive a 2024 Honda passport as a loaner and it has that infamous J35 , 3.5L V6 engine , So far only 7k miles on it. I got this as a loaner due to My CR-V being recalled for rust on Rear frame rails where lower control arm attaches. They broke the FWD bolt trying to install the reinforcement plates. 07 model. So my car still sits at the dealer and waiting on Honda's decision since July and i'm I'm driving a potential lemon, Great.
Very informative video...Honda/Acura should tell customers to watch this to know what to expect. Just wondering if this is going to have to be done ever so many mile like you mentioned the bmw owners. My girlfriend just had her MDX worked on and they said just bearing replacement but now we are wondering if its just a bandaid fix or do you put in a properly sized rod bearing. I would think a plastic gage check at the very least. Anyway thanks again NSXavier!
@@jcwick0859 It only affects the J35’s that are gasoline direct injected. The weight of vehicles affected are more on the ACURA side, however there is a percentage of HONDA’s affected as well. If you haven’t received a notice, then your vehicle is likely not affected. You can inquire with your dealer to find out for sure.
I have a ? about the J35 recall, have there been any 2016 RDX problems. RDX,s are not on the list as far as I can see. we bought a 2016RDX with 131k and it seem to run fine..
No there are no problems with the 2013-2018 RDX’s. Those have a J35 but the problem in this video is for the J35’s with direct injection. The 2nd generation RDX like the one you mentioned is actually very reliable and I only ever do routine maintenance and repairs on those. Very seldom do I do anything major on them.
Thank you so much for the reply, I feel much better about our purchase now. I love your video's! This RDX has a little vibration when stopped and in gear but smoothes right out in neutral, maybe motor mount? Your thoughts?
Hey bro so iam getting my car fixed with recall and they said that have to change the crack shaft 19 tlx aspec .So now for th future do you think iam going have more problems I only have 40 k miles
All of the cars that we have been replacing crankshafts on seem to be OK afterwards, but keep in mind that this recall just came out and there's no telling what will happen down the line. Me being me... I wouldn't want a car with a replaced crankshaft; but that is only my opinion on the matter.
Good video! How would tell the difference between rod knock and piston slap? Engine has kind of knocking noise 90 seconds after startup and goes away at full warm-up.
Thanks! Rod knock is typically present at all times and piston slap would be present when coming down off a rev. Piston slap is very uncommon and I’ve only really experienced it on an engine my buddy had built with loose tolerances. What you might be experiencing is intermittent oil starvation when cold (as the engine runs it builds oil pressure and the noise goes away).
@@NSXavier997 Thanks, I have a 2022 Pilot, same sound of tinging for about 8 minutes at idle from a cold start [no driving] or a few minutes from a cold start, idle for 2 minutes and drive...so it's related to oil pressure and I assume how hot the oil is and how well it's flowing at it's current temperature, as a hot start (driving, turn off, come back 10 minutes later, no tinging noise) I just wonder from where there sound is generated in the J35, it was never as loud as the J35 in my Accord 2016 V6 which I should have kept if I would've known about the S-VCM back then (i installed it on my Pilot at around 500 miles) Also, the V6 in the Accord sounded so much nicer than my Pilot, my Pilot sounds harsh/discordant in idle. With all these recalls, I seriously thinking of dumping the Pilot and getting an EV (not from Honda.)
@@nickorozco5933 Just found out today that apparently Honda is now under investigation with the NHTSA for 1.4 million cars affected. Good luck everyone. 🫡
Not nearly as much as it should pay I'll tell you that much. I got rid of the DE5 a year ago after I received a cease and desist for my youtube content on it- which is why that video series has gone private.
@@NSXavier997 cease and desist is wild, especially considering other channels operating out of the actual dealerships service shop are modding the hell out of DE5's and other Honda/Acuras. Either way, glad you are still making content.
How did you select connecting rod bearings (brown, green or yellow) specifically for this engine if you did not see the code on the crankshaft. What is the article number of the connecting rod bearing?
@@kerrickthomas9729 If you’re a current owner of one of the affected vehicles, the invoice that you receive after the recall has been performed should have a list of parts used which will reflect if a crankshaft was replaced. If you’re looking at buying a used car with an affected engine, it will require a bit more due diligence but you’d be able to find out by calling the dealership that performed the repair to verify what repair was performed.
My 2019 MDX has this recall and only 26K miles...not making any noise yet...do I take the car to the dealer for the recall work...will they replace all the bearing under the recall? Or they will only do the recall if there is noise.
@@KevinKaussNG call to schedule an appointment or go in person to have the recall done. If your car falls in the VIN range of affected vehicles, then the dealer is required to perform the recall no matter what.
I assume that similar vehicles that were purchased in Canada with J35 engines are also affected by this recall? Are these J35 engines manufactured in one plant and then sent to different assembly plants to be installed?
@@olegbesperstov7074 I think it's the same part # it's just machined differently. The crankshafts are interchangeable between blocks, however, the rod and main bearing selections will change based on the crankshaft being installed. There is a code on the end of the crank which will determine what color bearings to use.
@@NSXavier997 Thank you for your response. However, I still don’t quite understand the purpose of this recall. For example, they took the car, inspected the crankshaft, and replaced the bearings (with new but same type as original) and kept the same crankshaft. What guarantee is there that wear won’t occur in the next 30-60 thousand miles?
@ only some engines are affected, not all. The procedure is this: 1-Tear down to inspect bearings and take photos of them to send to Honda. 2-Honda evaluates the photos of the bearings and decides which repair to do which will either be JUST a rod bearing replacement because there’s minimal wear OR a crankshaft replacement + rod and main bearing replacement because of excessive wear. 3-The Technicians carry out the repair. I have another video that shows crankshaft replacement if you want to check that one out.
I bought a used 2018 tlx awd with 66k miles..2 months ago and i didn't know about this issue. Will i still get covered? Car is running fine for now. Man. Wish i did research before buying 😞 freaking nervous now.
Yes, call any ACURA dealership and ask the service department to check your VIN# for any open recalls. If it is affected, it will be reflected on the VIN status inquiry and they'll let you know.
Honda is under investigation by the NHTSA for bearing failures. Vehicles affected on the Honda side: 1.4 million. You might be seeing a letter in the mail.
Great Video/videos.... My 2017 Honda Accord Touring has the Multi-Point Fuel injection and is not subject to this recall, at least not yet. Do you have any Insite on why this is only for Direct injected V6 engines? The cranks are different, or come from a different factory?
Can't say why your car isn't subject to the recall yet. However, the NHTSA is investigating 1.4 million Honda's for the potential of engine failure. The cranks were improperly manufactured and variances in the crank journals lead to premature bearing failures.
Completely different short blocks and components. J35Z is part# 10002-RK1-A11 J35Y is part# 10002-5J6-A12. J35Z's don't fail in epic fashion the way J35Y's do.
@@NSXavier997I see that they look the same externally. The crankshaft journal sizes, judging by the specifications on the Internet, are the same. I wonder if the gaskets and liners from the Z modification will fit on the Y? We have a problem finding spare parts for the Y modification. The Z engine is more common because it was installed on the Honda Pilot, which is more popular here than the Acura.
Would you still stray away from them if you knew the entire engine had been replaced? My friend is interested in one that has the recall done with whole engine replacement.
Yea I'd be OK with buying one with a replacement engine. The only ones I would absolutely not buy or want to continue owning are the ones with crankshafts that have been replaced.
Honda inspects the bearings electronically. They have us take photos of them and based on their findings determines the corrective action. If it's just bearings replacement then the car can be in and out in a day. If it's a crankshaft replacement then probably a couple days down. Same if an engine needs to be replaced. The problem is that there are so many cars affected that we cant get them in fast enough so customers are booked out for months.
Great video, so i have to take in my 2015 tlx in 2 weeks. Are they going to try and sell me other stuff other than the recall?. Meaning the service writer or sales person.. lol,you know they have to make money somehow..just dont want any surprises. So the recall consists of bearing replacement and obviously engine oil?..thanks.
Thank you. Yes, I won't lie to you when I say that if the Technician working on your car and Service Advisor working with you are actually doing their job, they will most likely bring items to your attention that are due, past due or in need of repair. We're required to do so by law if any item is a safety related concern, and required to provide a thorough multi-point inspection per Dealer Operating Manual (DOM). The bearing recall will include new bearings, a few bits of hardware and gaskets and engine oil if it's an inspection only. Other possible outcomes based on inspection results would be: crankshaft replacement OR engine replacement.
@@NSXavier997 great thanks man.👍,when you get a chance can you make a video on the lane keep assit light?..every so often the light comes on and after a few key starts it dissappear.thanks..
Just had ours done today. They tried to sell us a timing belt and tires. Our tires are new and our car has about another 50,000 miles left on the timing belt. They will try to sell you all kinds of stuff.
@@twothreefour234 The VIN status is updated on each affected car once the recall has been completed. The recall will remain open until it is performed. Franchise and independent dealers are not legally permitted to sell a car with an open recall.
You'll have a higher probability of success taking the car to a dealership for this repair. Personally speaking on behalf of the Dealership I work for and the surrounding Dealerships in my district and zone, we have a high volume of repairs performed in relation to failures thereafter. The percentage of failures that have occurred AFTER this recall has been done has been extremely low. I have done more than these than I can count (and that includes inspections, bearing replacements, crankshaft replacements and engine replacements) and all are still in service in the field with no comebacks or reports of failure (PERSONALLY). That, and the only way to get the recall covered under warranty is to take it to a Dealership. Not to knock your trusted independent shop, but unless they have experience with and do this type of work on a daily basis, the potential for failure is much higher.
Hey all. I'm glad this video is being found helpful to everyone. Let me know on here what other videos everyone might be interested in seeing. Right now, in the shop I can film one of the following: High pressure fuel pump replacement, K24 engine tear down, or do a Technicians review on the '24 ZDX.
@@jalvarez84 A warranty extension was issued for the earlier models with the ZF. The transmission warmer would puncture and cause ATF and antifreeze to mix and damage the transmission, and cause overheating. Some cases were so bad that the entire powertrain required replacement.
I had my bearings replaced and changed the oil after 1,000 miles. I found lots of metal debris at the bottom of the drain bucket. Beware! Check your oil after this repair.
@@NSXavier997 I traded it in on a new Lexus. The Acura service manager accused me of tampering with the oil, lying, and finally blamed me for the problem. Rather than fight that bastard, I dumped the car. It was a 2019 TLX with 30,000 miles in perfect shape.
@@NSXavier997 welp. This comment here pretty much sealed the deal. What would you buy if you wanted a similiar vehicle as my 2020 mdx. As a MVA survivor who still suffers from PTSD from that, I'm scared shitless letting my kid drive my mdx. It's due to have recall inspection in April (originally June, but they keep pushing it off due to parts or loaner cars or whatever).
I opened my factory oil filter and was full large metal particles. I should have kept the oil filter. One of the cheapest part of the engine and went cheap. How can a company know for quality fail. How can trust each mechanic to replace correctly and not do more damage?
Wow so they don’t pull the motor and do it right?! How the hell can you ensure proper balance and clearances? You are putting new bearings on the old crank?! This is some sketchy stuff.
@@MrSupernova111 surprisingly we don’t see too many issues with the 3rd gen RDX. They seem to be super reliable and fairly well built. The only ‘major’ issues with those cars are in the first years (2019-2020) that had massive communication problems for the infotainment. Panoramic sunroofs were also problematic. But the powertrain on that car is pretty stout. I think in the time that it has been out I have only had to replace one or two transmissions and only 1 cylinder head due to overheating. They seem to have ironed out all the kinks in that car and I would feel comfortable buying a 22-25 model. They also drive nice and smooth for being the entry level small SUV.
@@NSXavier997 . I heard about those issues before purchasing my vehicle but I decided those are minor concerns compared to having oil dilution, etc... with the 1.5L turbos. So far so good so we'll see how far I get with this vehicle. I plan to keep it for a long time. Edit: I should add that I also didn't want an EV so Acura was a good choice for me. The other option was Mazda. Cheers!
Speaking as a Technician… I would much rather replace the engine rather than replacing the crank. Everything in the crate engine that you’ll be getting is brand new- even comes with a new timing belt and water pump.
@@NSXavier997 That is really Great news right there! We were on our way back from from South Texas when 2 hours from Dallas the block seized and 💨. My wife didn’t want to believe me when I told her the engine just 💣 ! You know the marital No Way Yes Way 👀 lol Sure enough after towing it the nearest dealership we were informed the catastrophic failure was covered by the recall and we would be receiving a new engine installed and ready to go in roughly 2-3 weeks. Our Acura MDX only had 75400 miles.
Thank you for your video. Please listen to the sound of my engine. Acura MDX 2015. Mileage 50 thousand miles. On the way home, the check engine light blinked. And a knock appeared. I immediately stopped. Connected the scanner. An error occurred misfire in the fifth cylinder. I got home on a tow truck. Suspected of the problem described in the video. Although the sound comes from somewhere above. The day before, I adjusted the valves. At first I thought that they were adjusted incorrectly. I removed the valve covers, all the adjusting bolts are in place, no problems are visible, I checked the gaps - they were all smaller than recommended. The car starts, the knocking sound is not constant. It can disappear altogether for 20-30 seconds. Then it appears again. I think what to do next. th-cam.com/users/shortsNcd1Wejzp3A
Honda has been producing stuff here in America for years with mostly no issues there's still problems with Japan built Honda's as well so saying that it's only American made Hondas is hypocritical.
@@IsaiahSchmitmeyer Every Acura made in America has problems whether its the paint doesn't match the bumper or the dash cracks. There is always something. None of this problems exist when its made in Japan.
When engineers build a model shouldn't they ensure and test an engine before it goes into production. Why should they get paid for not ensuring a part of the vehicle isn't assembled correctly. All vehicles are made with cheaper parts and a lack of quality.
@@rodgerpetrick6502 Yep. They Definitely don’t make them like they used to. I wouldn’t buy any new car today unless it was something high end like a PORSCHE. Primarily why I own 4 cars with the newest one being a 2013. All still running like tops.
@ fair. And this is true. However I can say that without a doubt, that they don’t make them like they used to. Taking Honda completely out of the equation; I would put more faith in a well sorted 1999 BMW M3 outlasting a 2024 BMW M4. It would be more reliable too. I guess I’m just a stubborn car enthusiast stuck in the late 90’s / early 2000’s lol
Buyer beware. Honda is putting a bandaid on a deep wound for cost avoidance. They are on a crash course of major lawsuit. Replacing bearings without a known metalurgical issue is a bandaid. The crankshaft is the problem. All this does is buy time until the engine fails again. Honda doesn't want to incur the cost of and engine out crankshaft replacement in every V6 vehicle. This is egregious. People with any sense at all buy a V6 Honda for its known reliability. Now they are failing like clockwork.
This is a nightmare for Honda and Honda V6 owners. How the mighty have fallen.
@@lukewalker1051 completely agree with this statement and I’m pinning it.
@@NSXavier997 Thanks. I am a retired automotive engineer. Problem is, when a mistake this grave is made, its hard to recover from it because fixing the root cause, i.e. changing every crankshaft would cost Honda 10's of millions of dollars. So they are putting a bandaid on it and honestly, I see this going from bad to worse for Honda. No doubt you are aware of Honda's infamous oil dilution problem on their turbo 4's....low viscosity oil and loose tolerances used for CAFE, direct injected etc. But this issue, making crankshafts wrong? This is a very big deal. Historically the Honda V6 with timing belt 'was' a wonderful engine.
What I have surmised digging around is....the crankshaft bearing journals which interface with the connecting rod bearings, were wrongly machined resulting in a convex shape (also known as a "barrel" shape). This convex shape can create a point load on the mating bearing, leading to higher friction and potentially increased wear and/or galling of the rod bearing.
In an ideal scenario, the bearing journals should be perfectly cylindrical to ensure even distribution of load and minimize friction in contact with the rod bearing.
@@lukewalker1051 Something that plastigauging would catch on assembly. But... you know... they're just throwing these things together to meet quota.
@@NSXavier997 You are so right. And lack of QC to cut corners in terms of cost and time is going to cost Honda/Acura 'big time' not to mention all the distrust of previously loyal customers. Learning if a crank journal is barrel shipped only takes a small straight edge.
Word up to owners that take their vehicle in for this crank bearing replacement procedure. Say you are at 80K miles, the dealer pulls it apart and bearings look good. Chances are, you don't have a vehicle with a real bad crank. Ask them 'how the bearings looked'?. If possible ask to see a cell pic of the bearings and of the crank journals as shown in this video. If the bearings were trashed...which occurs for owners that had failure, even with bearings replaced, you want to dump the car because what you really need is a new crankshaft aka engine rebuild...including all the metal in the engine due to shredded bearings including shavings inside the oil pump.
You are clearly a subject-matter expert; you're also fantastic communicator. My car has this recall, and this video was incredibly valuable and insightful. Thank you so much for taking the time. If only this kind of quality and thoroughness were available for more topics on the inter webs.
@@Ryan-bb8se appreciate it! I’ll try and make more interesting videos like this one
This was fantastic. Thanks for sharing. I'm hoping and praying that my 2023 J35 is not subject to this recall. I've got 15,000 miles on it.
Great video, it helped me understand the mechanics of what’s been going on with my 2015 TLX SH-AWD. A few years after purchasing the vehicle on occasion while stopped at a stoplight the car would stall/lock up and would NOT restart. Then after restart, started hearing clicking sounds coming from the engine. When I took the vehicle to the dealer, they found metal shaving in rod bearing # 6 and had to replace the block which took around 3 weeks to complete. Then last year Honda sent me a recall for an inspection of the repair.
Excellent video presentation! You really know your stuff. Subscribed!
Fantastically interesting video. Thank you for this and for explaining it so well; you should be a top level mechanics teacher for an auto manufacturer. I'm just a DIYer, but I was riveted to the screen for the entire video. THANK YOU.
@@frankobermaier3440 I really appreciate it! Check out my other follow up video which shows crankshaft replacement if you’d like!
Thanks for making this video. Very informative to a potential buyer in the market for an MDX. Helps with knowing what to look for. Hey, tip for other buys. Ask the service center that did the recall to provide a copy of the warranty work order with parts list. They won’t be able to hide if the crank shaft, or other parts were also replaced.
Welcome back. Really enjoy your videos.
Excellent explanation of the recall and the reasons for it.. I'm subscribed now..
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video and I really appreciate the sub. However, just know that the HONDA/ACURA content will be few and far between from here moving forward, as I only intend to post the failures and bad things that happens to these cars. The content on the channel will be heavily focused on PORSCHE 997 Turbo content along with an emphasis on Automotive Enthusiast culture.
@NSXavier997 that's fine.. the bad is the needed info especially since I currently drive only mdx's... 14.. 15.. 19.. 20.. the 19 hasn't been inspected yet.. 20 was end of year 20 and doesn't seem to be part of the recall.. might just upgrade the 19..
Great information for a consumer, like me, shopping for a used MDX. Exactly, what I needed to know before making a decision. Even Honda isn’t impervious to mistakes.
My only complaint when I talked to HR of Acura or who ever was that called, I asked her that they should make some adjustments and give the customer a peace of mind. Told her that I would have gladly paid to have the other bearing replaced instead of 3 con rods and 2 mains. I told her they should have reached out, said, hey, if you want the rest it will be XXX amount. I would have had them replaced.
A extended warranty on the engine and Timing Belt replacement Kit would make me a repeat customer.
Awesome Video Brother . The best one ever
Great video. I’m having this recall work done on my MDX in a few days and this is super helpful.
Mine is in Just today 19TLX
Glad I found your channel brother! U just gain another sub. Thank you for all these informative videos.
Appreciate the sub! Just fair warning, I'm only posting Honda/Acura stuff every once in a while. The channel is now centered around the 997 Turbo and overall car-enthusiast lifestyle.
Thank you very much for the explanation. Very helpful.
Excellent and informative video... My 2018 TLX A-Spec is in today for the rod bearing replacement. This really helped me understand what is going on.
Went in for the recall today. 2018 Acura Mdx. Honestly I wish they just replace my whole engine. I took the car in because it lit up like a Christmas tree all the warning lights came on. Codes were reading misfire in cylinder 3. Service consultant mentioned this might have nothing to do with the recall but that they’ll proceed to perform the recall and see what happens.
I'm currently considering a 2022 ~ 2025 Acura MDX. Should I be concerned with this issue "potentially" occurring on the newer model? Afterall, this J35Y5 variation has been in MDX for such a long time...?
We need a story time video on what happened with the cease and desist dilema! Haha that was wild !
I might put that out there.. don’t want it to seem like I’m airing my dirty laundry though. I’ll have to think of how I’d make a video on that. The videos weren’t deleted, and I can make them public at any time. Who knows… might just randomly see them back on for a day or two.
Thank you for making this informative video. I just took my TLX in today for crankshaft and bearing inspection. Does Honda extend the warranty after the work is completed?
I believe the existing powertrain warranty remains the same - 6 years from the original date of purchase or 70k miles whichever occurs first.
@@NSXavier997 no way! That's nuts. I meant to ask the dealership last week when it was in (for clunking in steering for third time, even after new rack installation) last week. I would expect a whole new warranty.
Just happened to me, 2015 TLX SH-AWD. Last night, car thru a CEL, cyl 5 misfire. Sounded like a boxer engine from a Subaru. Heard the tick-tick-tick-tick when i revved the engine a little bit. Next morning, 20min later, car stalls and shuts off on the road. Car is at 79,9xx miles. Thanks for your video!
No problem! Thanks for watching and I'm glad it was informative for you. Sorry to hear about your car. Sounds like it'll need a crank. Check out my other video on crank replacement if you want to know more about that procedure.
@@NSXavier997 Even if the car wont crank up anymore?
@@ridge_r4cer yea there’s a possibility that they might just be doing a crank. Really depends on the bearing photos that are submitted and reviewed by the bearing inspection team and whether any of the rods are broken.
@@NSXavier997 Gotcha, thank you sir! I hope my local dealer does the right thing.
@ yes let us know how it goes. In all dealerships defense… it’s not really us who makes the call on which repair procedure gets done. It’s American Honda that has the final say.
How are the later model 3.5’s? Like ‘24 & 25 year models? I just bought a 2025 Ridgeline one month ago, just before the recall issue. I’m feeling a little nervous about the purchase. Dad gum it!
within 8 years before they may also be under recall
So much for a reliable brand, Thank for the info. I wish you would have shown us all the flat rod bearings you took out. I've rebuilt a few engines with a Ford 5.0l V8 just last summer , so i know what i'm looking at. I now drive a 2024 Honda passport as a loaner and it has that infamous J35 , 3.5L V6 engine , So far only 7k miles on it. I got this as a loaner due to My CR-V being recalled for rust on Rear frame rails where lower control arm attaches. They broke the FWD bolt trying to install the reinforcement plates. 07 model. So my car still sits at the dealer and waiting on Honda's decision since July and i'm I'm driving a potential lemon, Great.
Very informative video...Honda/Acura should tell customers to watch this to know what to expect. Just wondering if this is going to have to be done ever so many mile like you mentioned the bmw owners. My girlfriend just had her MDX worked on and they said just bearing replacement but now we are wondering if its just a bandaid fix or do you put in a properly sized rod bearing. I would think a plastic gage check at the very least. Anyway thanks again NSXavier!
Only Direct Injected J series are affected?
There are many J35 series nomenclature. My 2011 TSX v6 was built in Japan. I have never heard of this problem or recall.
This only affects GDI J35 engines. Your TSX V6 is port injection.
i havent recieved any notice about this recall i have a j35 honda accord
@@jcwick0859 It only affects the J35’s that are gasoline direct injected. The weight of vehicles affected are more on the ACURA side, however there is a percentage of HONDA’s affected as well. If you haven’t received a notice, then your vehicle is likely not affected. You can inquire with your dealer to find out for sure.
@@NSXavier997 Oh wow what a load off my mind that is. I have a 2014 Accord V6 manual coupe with J35Y2. Guess I dodged this one.
Should I get the recall done if my tlx only has 40k miles and doesn’t make a ticking noise?
I have a ? about the J35 recall, have there been any 2016 RDX problems. RDX,s are not on the list as far as I can see. we bought a 2016RDX with 131k and it seem to run fine..
No there are no problems with the 2013-2018 RDX’s. Those have a J35 but the problem in this video is for the J35’s with direct injection. The 2nd generation RDX like the one you mentioned is actually very reliable and I only ever do routine maintenance and repairs on those. Very seldom do I do anything major on them.
Thank you so much for the reply, I feel much better about our purchase now. I love your video's! This RDX has a little vibration when stopped and in gear but smoothes right out in neutral, maybe motor mount? Your thoughts?
Hey bro so iam getting my car fixed with recall and they said that have to change the crack shaft 19 tlx aspec .So now for th future do you think iam going have more problems I only have 40 k miles
All of the cars that we have been replacing crankshafts on seem to be OK afterwards, but keep in mind that this recall just came out and there's no telling what will happen down the line. Me being me... I wouldn't want a car with a replaced crankshaft; but that is only my opinion on the matter.
You might get a tech just banging it out. I would get rid of it.
I would love to see how to do the turbo J30 engine’s timing-belt and valve cover gasket.
Good video! How would tell the difference between rod knock and piston slap? Engine has kind of knocking noise 90 seconds after startup and goes away at full warm-up.
Thanks! Rod knock is typically present at all times and piston slap would be present when coming down off a rev. Piston slap is very uncommon and I’ve only really experienced it on an engine my buddy had built with loose tolerances. What you might be experiencing is intermittent oil starvation when cold (as the engine runs it builds oil pressure and the noise goes away).
@@NSXavier997 Thanks, I have a 2022 Pilot, same sound of tinging for about 8 minutes at idle from a cold start [no driving] or a few minutes from a cold start, idle for 2 minutes and drive...so it's related to oil pressure and I assume how hot the oil is and how well it's flowing at it's current temperature, as a hot start (driving, turn off, come back 10 minutes later, no tinging noise) I just wonder from where there sound is generated in the J35, it was never as loud as the J35 in my Accord 2016 V6 which I should have kept if I would've known about the S-VCM back then (i installed it on my Pilot at around 500 miles) Also, the V6 in the Accord sounded so much nicer than my Pilot, my Pilot sounds harsh/discordant in idle. With all these recalls, I seriously thinking of dumping the Pilot and getting an EV (not from Honda.)
Nothing to do with this … that sound like vvti
Nothing to do with this … that sound like Vito
How do I know if my 2020 MDX is impacted by the issue. Acura hasn’t said anything and no recalls on mine yet.
@@nickorozco5933 Just found out today that apparently Honda is now under investigation with the NHTSA for 1.4 million cars affected. Good luck everyone. 🫡
I guess I need to get an oil analysis for my 2019 Odyssey. I’m told they have this issue as well.
How much labor time does the recall pay technicians?
Any updates on the DE5?
Not nearly as much as it should pay I'll tell you that much. I got rid of the DE5 a year ago after I received a cease and desist for my youtube content on it- which is why that video series has gone private.
@@NSXavier997 cease and desist is wild, especially considering other channels operating out of the actual dealerships service shop are modding the hell out of DE5's and other Honda/Acuras. Either way, glad you are still making content.
Superb, informative video. Thanks for posting and sharing your knowledge.
The recall said the crank journals were machined to improper dimensions. I'm betting that the clearance is too tight.
How did you select connecting rod bearings (brown, green or yellow) specifically for this engine if you did not see the code on the crankshaft. What is the article number of the connecting rod bearing?
How would you know if the crankshaft was changed specifically as opposed to just bearings?
@@kerrickthomas9729 If you’re a current owner of one of the affected vehicles, the invoice that you receive after the recall has been performed should have a list of parts used which will reflect if a crankshaft was replaced. If you’re looking at buying a used car with an affected engine, it will require a bit more due diligence but you’d be able to find out by calling the dealership that performed the repair to verify what repair was performed.
@@NSXavier997 thanks for the info.
My 2019 MDX has this recall and only 26K miles...not making any noise yet...do I take the car to the dealer for the recall work...will they replace all the bearing under the recall? Or they will only do the recall if there is noise.
@@KevinKaussNG call to schedule an appointment or go in person to have the recall done. If your car falls in the VIN range of affected vehicles, then the dealer is required to perform the recall no matter what.
I assume that similar vehicles that were purchased in Canada with J35 engines are also affected by this recall? Are these J35 engines manufactured in one plant and then sent to different assembly plants to be installed?
So does the Honda replacing the bearings with a new type bearings? If so is it a part number for the new crank bearings?
Same bearings. The problem isn't the bearings, its the crank.
Got you, many thanks! So is it a newer version of the crankshaft then with a new P/N?
@@olegbesperstov7074 I think it's the same part # it's just machined differently. The crankshafts are interchangeable between blocks, however, the rod and main bearing selections will change based on the crankshaft being installed. There is a code on the end of the crank which will determine what color bearings to use.
@@NSXavier997 Thank you for your response. However, I still don’t quite understand the purpose of this recall. For example, they took the car, inspected the crankshaft, and replaced the bearings (with new but same type as original) and kept the same crankshaft. What guarantee is there that wear won’t occur in the next 30-60 thousand miles?
@ only some engines are affected, not all. The procedure is this:
1-Tear down to inspect bearings and take photos of them to send to Honda.
2-Honda evaluates the photos of the bearings and decides which repair to do which will either be JUST a rod bearing replacement because there’s minimal wear OR a crankshaft replacement + rod and main bearing replacement because of excessive wear.
3-The Technicians carry out the repair.
I have another video that shows crankshaft replacement if you want to check that one out.
I bought a used 2018 tlx awd with 66k miles..2 months ago and i didn't know about this issue. Will i still get covered? Car is running fine for now. Man. Wish i did research before buying 😞 freaking nervous now.
its a recall. no time limit, call a local acura dealer and get it done. its free.
Is there a way for me to check if my car is part of the recall?
Yes, call any ACURA dealership and ask the service department to check your VIN# for any open recalls. If it is affected, it will be reflected on the VIN status inquiry and they'll let you know.
I own a 2020 Honda Ridgeline, should I be concerned with the bearings nightmare.
Honda is under investigation by the NHTSA for bearing failures. Vehicles affected on the Honda side: 1.4 million. You might be seeing a letter in the mail.
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Great Video/videos.... My 2017 Honda Accord Touring has the Multi-Point Fuel injection and is not subject to this recall, at least not yet. Do you have any Insite on why this is only for Direct injected V6 engines? The cranks are different, or come from a different factory?
Can't say why your car isn't subject to the recall yet. However, the NHTSA is investigating 1.4 million Honda's for the potential of engine failure. The cranks were improperly manufactured and variances in the crank journals lead to premature bearing failures.
Very informative. Thank you.
When buying one. How do you know if the repair was completed already? It’s crazy how a slim piece of metal can cause so much damage.
Have your local acura dealership run a VIN status inquiry.
Can you please tell me that the crankshafts and short blocks on engines modifications J35Z and J35Y are the same?
Completely different short blocks and components. J35Z is part# 10002-RK1-A11 J35Y is part# 10002-5J6-A12. J35Z's don't fail in epic fashion the way J35Y's do.
@@NSXavier997I see that they look the same externally. The crankshaft journal sizes, judging by the specifications on the Internet, are the same. I wonder if the gaskets and liners from the Z modification will fit on the Y? We have a problem finding spare parts for the Y modification. The Z engine is more common because it was installed on the Honda Pilot, which is more popular here than the Acura.
Would you still stray away from them if you knew the entire engine had been replaced? My friend is interested in one that has the recall done with whole engine replacement.
Yea I'd be OK with buying one with a replacement engine. The only ones I would absolutely not buy or want to continue owning are the ones with crankshafts that have been replaced.
I did my 2007 acura TL type S myself about 3 months ago.
@NSXavier997 What do you think about the 2022-2024 Mdx, have been looking at those but now concerned.
Does this happen with the 2007 Acura RL? I check Acura recalls by using my VIN number but said no recalls reported.
@@demarcustodd4437 no, that car is an example of a good car that Honda produced.
@ thank you for such a quick response. That’s a sigh of relief lol. I just recently got it last month but I love it so far.
Any chance this is caused by "displacement on demand" engines? I have read of piston ring problems with those engines.
I don’t think this issue is directly related to that issue.
So how long is the vehicle in for repair for this recall? If you have to send the bearings to HOA for inspection, I imagine it could be weeks??
Honda inspects the bearings electronically. They have us take photos of them and based on their findings determines the corrective action. If it's just bearings replacement then the car can be in and out in a day. If it's a crankshaft replacement then probably a couple days down. Same if an engine needs to be replaced. The problem is that there are so many cars affected that we cant get them in fast enough so customers are booked out for months.
Great video, so i have to take in my 2015 tlx in 2 weeks. Are they going to try and sell me other stuff other than the recall?. Meaning the service writer or sales person.. lol,you know they have to make money somehow..just dont want any surprises. So the recall consists of bearing replacement and obviously engine oil?..thanks.
Thank you. Yes, I won't lie to you when I say that if the Technician working on your car and Service Advisor working with you are actually doing their job, they will most likely bring items to your attention that are due, past due or in need of repair. We're required to do so by law if any item is a safety related concern, and required to provide a thorough multi-point inspection per Dealer Operating Manual (DOM). The bearing recall will include new bearings, a few bits of hardware and gaskets and engine oil if it's an inspection only. Other possible outcomes based on inspection results would be: crankshaft replacement OR engine replacement.
@@NSXavier997 great thanks man.👍,when you get a chance can you make a video on the lane keep assit light?..every so often the light comes on and after a few key starts it dissappear.thanks..
@@turbofedz8997 Absolutely. Next LKAS camera or RADAR I have in for aiming, I will surely make a video on that.
Great thanks 👍
Just had ours done today. They tried to sell us a timing belt and tires. Our tires are new and our car has about another 50,000 miles left on the timing belt. They will try to sell you all kinds of stuff.
If its not knocking yet how will you know the work was avtually done,?
@@twothreefour234 The VIN status is updated on each affected car once the recall has been completed. The recall will remain open until it is performed. Franchise and independent dealers are not legally permitted to sell a car with an open recall.
Would you suggest letting a dealership handle this or better off to trust a 3rd party shop? I want something this major done right.
You'll have a higher probability of success taking the car to a dealership for this repair. Personally speaking on behalf of the Dealership I work for and the surrounding Dealerships in my district and zone, we have a high volume of repairs performed in relation to failures thereafter. The percentage of failures that have occurred AFTER this recall has been done has been extremely low. I have done more than these than I can count (and that includes inspections, bearing replacements, crankshaft replacements and engine replacements) and all are still in service in the field with no comebacks or reports of failure (PERSONALLY). That, and the only way to get the recall covered under warranty is to take it to a Dealership.
Not to knock your trusted independent shop, but unless they have experience with and do this type of work on a daily basis, the potential for failure is much higher.
Super helpful!
Hey all. I'm glad this video is being found helpful to everyone. Let me know on here what other videos everyone might be interested in seeing. Right now, in the shop I can film one of the following: High pressure fuel pump replacement, K24 engine tear down, or do a Technicians review on the '24 ZDX.
My car is currently in for this recall just wondering if they tell me they have to replace the crank ?
CONNECTING ROD BEARING PART NUMBER
24 zdx would be interesting to me
I’m up for all of them :)
My Milwaukee 3/8 mid torque impact has so much oil on it because of this recall 😂. The plastic bag is a good idea.
You would think they would have you check the bearing clearances!
Nice video
I think they should do a recall for the zf9 transmission.
@@jalvarez84 A warranty extension was issued for the earlier models with the ZF. The transmission warmer would puncture and cause ATF and antifreeze to mix and damage the transmission, and cause overheating. Some cases were so bad that the entire powertrain required replacement.
Seems like certain parts of the engine were over tightened during manufacturing.
Not overtighten but the wrong size bearing
I had my bearings replaced and changed the oil after 1,000 miles. I found lots of metal debris at the bottom of the drain bucket. Beware! Check your oil after this repair.
Good luck to you & your engine. Honda has absolved their liabilities on your engine from here moving forward.
@@NSXavier997 I traded it in on a new Lexus. The Acura service manager accused me of tampering with the oil, lying, and finally blamed me for the problem. Rather than fight that bastard, I dumped the car. It was a 2019 TLX with 30,000 miles in perfect shape.
@@slovack8x54 good move on trading it in. I wouldn’t want to own an Acura these days
@@slovack8x54is Lexus better? They having their own issues and recalls
@@NSXavier997 welp. This comment here pretty much sealed the deal. What would you buy if you wanted a similiar vehicle as my 2020 mdx. As a MVA survivor who still suffers from PTSD from that, I'm scared shitless letting my kid drive my mdx. It's due to have recall inspection in April (originally June, but they keep pushing it off due to parts or loaner cars or whatever).
I opened my factory oil filter and was full large metal particles. I should have kept the oil filter. One of the cheapest part of the engine and went cheap.
How can a company know for quality fail. How can trust each mechanic to replace correctly and not do more damage?
@@dogisluvdogluvs8572 🎲
250 k miles on my mdx
When my tsx wagon craps out I’ll be looking at a Mazda they are built in Japan.
Your tsx will be fine if maintained properly
I don’t know nothing about engines but does the crack shaft affect performance
Wow so they don’t pull the motor and do it right?! How the hell can you ensure proper balance and clearances? You are putting new bearings on the old crank?! This is some sketchy stuff.
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I think I might have dodged a bullet with a '23 RDX. I knew the 1.5L turbos had problems so I purposely avoided those.
@@MrSupernova111 surprisingly we don’t see too many issues with the 3rd gen RDX. They seem to be super reliable and fairly well built. The only ‘major’ issues with those cars are in the first years (2019-2020) that had massive communication problems for the infotainment. Panoramic sunroofs were also problematic. But the powertrain on that car is pretty stout. I think in the time that it has been out I have only had to replace one or two transmissions and only 1 cylinder head due to overheating. They seem to have ironed out all the kinks in that car and I would feel comfortable buying a 22-25 model. They also drive nice and smooth for being the entry level small SUV.
@@NSXavier997 . I heard about those issues before purchasing my vehicle but I decided those are minor concerns compared to having oil dilution, etc... with the 1.5L turbos. So far so good so we'll see how far I get with this vehicle. I plan to keep it for a long time.
Edit: I should add that I also didn't want an EV so Acura was a good choice for me. The other option was Mazda.
Cheers!
Super light weight oil ..0W-20
Nothing to do with it..
Acura has to replace my entire engine 😢
Speaking as a Technician… I would much rather replace the engine rather than replacing the crank. Everything in the crate engine that you’ll be getting is brand new- even comes with a new timing belt and water pump.
@@NSXavier997 That is really Great news right there! We were on our way back from from South Texas when 2 hours from Dallas the block seized and 💨. My wife didn’t want to believe me when I told her the engine just 💣 ! You know the marital No Way Yes Way 👀 lol Sure enough after towing it the nearest dealership we were informed the catastrophic failure was covered by the recall and we would be receiving a new engine installed and ready to go in roughly 2-3 weeks. Our Acura MDX only had 75400 miles.
Update!! We already have our car back with a brand new engine!!!😎💪🏽
How long was the entire process? I'm on the same boat@@ThePaccarWhisperer
How much you got for that 2.2 with alignment 😂😂😂
@@browncaca 2.2 is a little too rich for Honda to be paying their techs.
Please. Put your goggles On! :)
Thank you for your video. Please listen to the sound of my engine. Acura MDX 2015. Mileage 50 thousand miles. On the way home, the check engine light blinked. And a knock appeared. I immediately stopped. Connected the scanner. An error occurred misfire in the fifth cylinder. I got home on a tow truck. Suspected of the problem described in the video. Although the sound comes from somewhere above. The day before, I adjusted the valves. At first I thought that they were adjusted incorrectly. I removed the valve covers, all the adjusting bolts are in place, no problems are visible, I checked the gaps - they were all smaller than recommended. The car starts, the knocking sound is not constant. It can disappear altogether for 20-30 seconds. Then it appears again. I think what to do next. th-cam.com/users/shortsNcd1Wejzp3A
There is a huge difference between 100 thousand ,,, Hondas has 1.4 millions Huge diferent
That what happens when Honda Japan outsources their stuff to America.
Look at toyota 😢
Honda has been producing stuff here in America for years with mostly no issues there's still problems with Japan built Honda's as well so saying that it's only American made Hondas is hypocritical.
@@IsaiahSchmitmeyer Every Acura made in America has problems whether its the paint doesn't match the bumper or the dash cracks. There is always something. None of this problems exist when its made in Japan.
This was my thought. The Japanese quality culture faded away at Honda America.
Japanese made Corolla GRs are literally burning themselves to the ground.
When engineers build a model shouldn't they ensure and test an engine before it goes into production. Why should they get paid for not ensuring a part of the vehicle isn't assembled correctly. All vehicles are made with cheaper parts and a lack of quality.
@@rodgerpetrick6502 Yep. They Definitely don’t make them like they used to. I wouldn’t buy any new car today unless it was something high end like a PORSCHE. Primarily why I own 4 cars with the newest one being a 2013. All still running like tops.
@ fair. And this is true. However I can say that without a doubt, that they don’t make them like they used to. Taking Honda completely out of the equation; I would put more faith in a well sorted 1999 BMW M3 outlasting a 2024 BMW M4. It would be more reliable too. I guess I’m just a stubborn car enthusiast stuck in the late 90’s / early 2000’s lol
@@Jazz16-we1qc teleportation....or cancer. I'm sure many will still choose teleportation even being told of the risks.
Never buying another Honda .
@@antolismirnoff5513 I wouldn’t go that far… I’d say I wouldn’t buy another Honda right now.
@@NSXavier997 I was excited about the new Passport, but I'm betting it will also be recalled in a few years.
Ridiculous decision , you never made a mistake
Bullshit repair. Honda should do the right thing and install new short blocks at min.
There is a huge difference between 100 thousand ,,, Hondas has 1.4 millions Huge diferent