So freaking underrated. Literally recorded my video yesterday with the EV-RE20, cloud lifter, and the top handle. I added the small rig accessory to the top handle to "sure" it up. It is so nice to record directly in camera when I don't feel like syncing in post.
old comment, but since you have the Smallrig handle thingie, have you gotten good use out of it? I just ordered an Fx30 and the smallrig handle accessory 4830 "back bit" for it too since I've heard people managing to break the top handle when it's on it's own due to it being just plastic. Having XLR's hanging off the top in particular without low profile angled connectors is a potential snag hazard, had that with other cameras with top handle XLR.
Just picked up an FX30 (coming from the older Blackmagic Cinema line) and went with the bundle with the top handle - definitely a much-needed accessory in my world. I'm a musician and I do demos on my channel of audio effects units with synths, drum machines, and samplers, and the idea of recording 4 channels of audio EMBEDDED in my video is going to make editing SO MUCH faster/better than syncing up my H4n files. Was super pumped to learn that the handle did 4ch audio. Excited to start using this thing! Appreciate your content btw!
Hey man. Quick question for you. Do you find the quality of the audio via the top handle is similar to running it through an interface? Basically I have been using an interface for my 2 mic video podcast setup. But if this thing works it would save me a huge ball ache of having to connect the mics through an interface into the laptop. Especially on location.
@@HeywoodandStuff It's absolutely good enough for TH-cam! I mean probably not as good as the highest end stuff, but it just depends on your standards. I wouldn't use it to record my album, but I've been happy with it for my videos. If you check out any of the videos on my channel, I'm using it to record the line audio from my music gear and my Beta 58a at the same time, with a free channel to spare.
I didn’t want the one with the top Handle at first but man it was a need for sure more than I thought. Perfect when shooting podcast, live streaming and run an gun work.
I just send back my fx30 back this morning and switched to fx3 much better camera although I’ve liked the fx30 but I prefer to get the real best of Sony! It is a real pleasure watching you videos easy to understand than you .
Sir I love your videos. Especially the one about the Slog color correction and white balancing on the fx3. You describe very easy steps to check and setup everything. I have seen many other videos before and it seems like other TH-camrs make the process way too complicated by using external hardware and monitors to setup the exposure on the camera. I like your approach more. Thanks a lot for sharing.
Awesome videos Josh! I think that the XLR-K3M, although not as sexy as the "top handle," is more versatile than the handle--especially for those of us who have Fs7's, a7siii, etc... Also, I'm not a fan of mounting an external monitor on top of the handle, growing the rig upwards and tending towards making the camera front heavy. With a SmallRig half cage, and the XLR-K3m (and a few odds and ends) you can mount an external monitor more in line with the FX30's touchscreen directly below--counterbalancing the rig and lowering the external closer to the flip out. Yes, you lose the cool handle, but in my world; most of the action is better covered from my chest up to eye level... Happy to share my FX30 setup.
Thanks! Yeah, pros and cons of both. It really depends on how you plan to use the camera. I do prefer the top handle for run and gun stuff like I showed in the video, but I agree the XLR-K3M is more versatile overall. Glad we have options!
Josh, amazing video and thank you! I'm a Sony stills shooter but I'm finding a need for video. You video explained to me the basic setup I'm looking at and for that thank you again!
Thanks Josh, for a great video. I want to plug sound from a mixer. I see at around 4:30 I have to choose Line Input level. What kind of cable do I use from the mixer ? XLR, 1/4 inch or RCA? Do I plug OUT or IN from the mixer ? Thank you!
Awesome vid! Thanks, Peace! Hi from downtown Montreal! I have become another one of your devoted subscribers! Sony Cinema Line is interesting to me. I'm a long time Nikon type. Vlog with a Nikon Z30, which I like. Bought a BMCC6K Pro for the price point. I am an elderly newbie film maker. I love the cams I have, but Sony is really cutting edge in supplying what creator's need. Thanks for the learning!
Great in-depth explanation. Thank you. Have you noticed a difference in audio quality using the same mic on the FX6 (direct to camera XLR) and the FX3 top handle, going through the hot shoe?
I have to say, I still prefer recording into my Zoom H6 and using a shotgun mic to capture reference audio. separating your audio sources helps avoid the pain if something does go wrong. Plus syncing in Premier is super easy nowadays and editing raw 48 /24 audio in Audition is way better than messing around in Premier trying to use the essential sound panel.
Thanks for explaining so well, helped a lot. I just got Deity S-mic2S for fx3 for run and gun shoot. I am getting lots of handling noise through mic, is there a way to get around this?
Great video and insight! Thanks!. Would you recommend the Sony ECM-MS2 microphone to pair up with this top handle xlr? or which xlr mic would you recommend better? cheers!
Just bought this combo with the Sony mic handle. Is it normal for the mount where the microphone is mounted to be squishy and moves a bit? I’m assuming yes to make it shock proof
Thank you so much, this video is great! Just a question: If I choose the 4 channel recording, is it possible, to record with Input 1 and Input 3 simultaneously? I thought about a shotgun mic for input 1 and a lav for input 3 :)
Hey man, I'm curious if it's possible to use a shoe ribbon adapter, much like you'd see for a remote flash in photography to attach to the handle. Basically I have a FX3 in a static position mounted above my desk facing down. I prefer keeping it in the small rig cage I have for it. What I'd want to do is use a ribbon shoe apdater from the audio port on the top middle of the camera to the audio handle then mount the audio handle on my overhead. Do you think this is possible? I can't really find information about others doing this. Thanks in advance
I see one problem though. On the FX3 the audio levels are clearly displayed on the screen. You can see where they fall in regards to 12 DB. On the FX30 the readings are so small you cannot tell where the readings fall.
Hi Josh, I`ve been trying to find a low-profile monitor setup for my FX3 with top-handle. But I can`t figure it out. I always end up too tall. It looks like a tower. Did you find something? GREAT videos by the way :)
Thank you- this is a great vid! One question though... On my FX3, if I have a sony xlr shotgun mic plugged into the 2 xlr inputs and a Rode Wireless Pro rx plugged into input 3 for two lav mics, what should the input select switch be set to? Or does it even matter if the audio in the menu is set to 4 channel?
On the fence on the fence!!!! So, can you talk about the pre-amps on the unit? I'm struggling with either grabbing the xlr top handle with the FX30 or using the cash to pick up the Rodecaster Duo on release in July. I know the Duo offers the ability to tweak the sound quality and add effects to the mic (NT1 Gen 5), BUTTTTT, I do like the idea of not having to match audio in post. Is that the main question people ask themselves haha? My use case will be in office talking head, streaming/zoom calls and the odd single podcast. Thanks in advance and you've got a new sub! Great content. Peter, Vancouver.
The pre-amps are average. Not amazing but not awful. The convenience is great though and you won't have any sync issues when streaming because the audio and video get send together to your computer.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks a mil for the reply. Can there be synch issue when streaming? I was looking at the streamer x and Ecamm live set up. Looks like it streamer x provides one audio/video source into ecamm. Thanks again, ordered body only in the end. Am I going to regret this? Haha. Cheers.
@@peteroates37 I haven't used the Streamer X so I don't know how it handles that. If you are sending audio and video separately into your computer they will not sync up. You will have to go into Ecamm and set a manual delay. You can always buy the XLR handle separately later if you change your mind. I have done streaming a lot of different ways and personally always prefer to send the audio into the camera to avoid syncing issues.
I buy an FX3 XLR Top Handle for my a7IV(I use Adapter plate SmallRig MD4019)And it works well, I'm satisfied!..But when I turn on 4 channels, and connect a microphone to input 1 (or 2), and a wireless microphone to input 3, then it doesn’t work for me not to write to the camera 3 and 4 channels. And if I select 4-channel sound in the menu, then I see that channels 3 and 4 are not active .... What am I doing wrong?... ..., sorry for my English.
Great video! I just got the fx30 with the top handle. Just a quick question: if I’m holding the handle with my right hand, how can I enable the recording function with my left.
@@Josh_Sattin Lol! Don't know how I missed that great button.... Yet one more reason I love this camera. Your channel has become my "go to" resource. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for this video. As a warning for musicians and audio guys I have to say the preamps are not good and produce a lot of noise. A solution is to use an external preamp with a lot of gain and go into the Line Input at 0dB and very low input volume. But even then it‘s not going to catch up with the Zoom F3.
Hey Josh! Thanks so much for the video! Quick question, I have my rode ntg4+ connected into ch1 and my shure VP83 shotgun mic in the input 3 with the 3.5mm. I switched the back input to the very top so that input 3 goes to ch 1,2. so far, i think im correct. now to adjust the audio for the 3.5mm, i would still adjust it under input 3 correct? or does that now switch to input 1 controls. thanks!
Hey Josh, absolutely life saving review! Thank you so much. Instant sub. I have an AVX mic and when I put the INPUT on the MIC position, it doesn't work... I have to use MIC +48v (Phantom power) which is really weird as the AVX is powered by internal batteries... Am I missing something?
@@Josh_Sattin cool, I was afraid it could damage the mic if adding the camera power to the internal battery power… but well, as it didn’t work any other way either, I guess it was the way to go …
That is strange, cause that is the purpose of batteries... when needing phantom power in the mic. Otherwise, if a "normal" mic, then it should have worked directly plugged in the camera, like my lav mic.
@@WEHAVETHISDREAM it’s strange indeed .. when I plug in a “classic” Senheiser receiver (those that works with AA batteries) I don’t need phantom power .. but the AVX receiver , I do .. maybe the battery is too small and serves for the radio signal but needs extra power either way
Really good and helpful video thanks - I’ll sub. Didn’t actually answer what I wanted to find out though! 😂 I do weddings and typically use zoom H1s with lav mics for most of my audio, but always looking for backup options and was wondering how good the audio would be from a microphone attached to the handle and about 15-20 feet away from the speaker - I would assume not great? I’m thinking wedding ceremonies on a tripod that distance from the couple.
Hey. Do this handle use battery power? I mean if I will use it with my fx30 the battery will run out quicker? Maybe it depends on the mic which I will use? If yes, what if I will be using "rode video mic micro" with an adapter? It will still use my fx30 battery power? Thanks in advance
So it appears that the level control labeled INPUT 3 is actually the level control for input 3 and 4? (There are 4 independent channels, but only 3 controls, right?)
I tried setting it up, but I got static and noise. I ended up using the 3.5 mic without the top handle. I'm not sure why, but I get cleaner audio without it.
Josh, what do you recomend to use in the shock mount for an fx3 as an all around situation mic, run and gun and also studio work ? usually the talent is like 5m or 5feet away from the camera, Sennheiser MKH 8070 or Sennheiser MKH 8060 or Sennheiser MKH 418 S or your beloved MKH 50-P48 ?
@@Josh_Sattin Can it be bought with black rather then the red mic holders? And can a wind shield protector thing be found without RODE printed on it? I like everything clean without adverts all over it. It just looks quite tacky imo. I see on your desk no RODE display on the mic.
When using the xlr on the fx3, I have a shure sm7b with a focusrite and sound colloid filter, do I also connect the cloud filter to the fx3? And the focus rite?
It depends on what I'm doing. For simple quick setups or run and gun I would use the top handle. If I need a lot of audio inputs and am doing something more elaborate than I would consider external audio. For most things I do, the top handle is great.
Indeed, I'd go for the recorder unless only one mic is to be used, and it may as well be on the camera. For me I want every option, and would take the F6 first over the handle. I have g4 levs already.
I dont know what I did but my top handle just stopped working or I accidentally hit something. i just recorded with no sound lol. Going to troubleshoot
Hello, Mr. Sattin! Can you take the audio unit off the handle? For situations when you do not need to record any audio... and might just leave the unit home, to not... have it on top all the time?
Thank you so much for the excellent video Question I have a shot gun mic and wireless lav. Can I put shot gun on and link ch 1 and 2 and then add a wireless lav and input to channel 3? If so what do I slide the input selector to ch1.ch2 or ch3. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Yes you can do that. Make sure you have 4 channel audio turned on inside the camera. On the back handle switch set it to In1 and have the linked switch turned on channel 2 on the side.
I find it bizarre that anyone would choose to not get the top handle. The audio input option is priceless. My biggest gripe after excessively working with the FX3 is the lack of a REC button. It has the interface to send 24bit audio, there must’ve been room for a programmable button or two. Would save a lot of awkward fiddling to hit the other REC buttons
I am debating with myself between NO handle and YES handle. I do not do audio stuff, normally, but I did have a project from a client, where I had to use a Tascam recorder. DaVinci can match the audio pretty easily and all... but, not having the need for an external recorder, could be cool. BUT, I do not know how often I will have clients like those...
Hello Thank you for your kind explanation and guidance. It's a comment from a year ago contents, but there's something I can't solve, so I'm inquiring. For my fx3 camera, I set the ni shoe 2ch setting on camera and input1.input2 on XLR. Then when I check the file I recorded on premier pro, the sound is confirmed on audio channel 1 to stereo, is there any way to make it appear on audio channel 1 and channel 2 mono respectively? The context can be strange because it's a question through a translator. I'm sorry about this.
Finally a Video that actually explain the top handle. Thank you.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I just picked up a FX3 and this actually helped me to understand some things about the handle and the mic. You got a subscriber out of it. Thank you
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching and for the support!
So freaking underrated. Literally recorded my video yesterday with the EV-RE20, cloud lifter, and the top handle. I added the small rig accessory to the top handle to "sure" it up. It is so nice to record directly in camera when I don't feel like syncing in post.
old comment, but since you have the Smallrig handle thingie, have you gotten good use out of it? I just ordered an Fx30 and the smallrig handle accessory 4830 "back bit" for it too since I've heard people managing to break the top handle when it's on it's own due to it being just plastic. Having XLR's hanging off the top in particular without low profile angled connectors is a potential snag hazard, had that with other cameras with top handle XLR.
@@noth606 I use it all time. Especially filming pee wee football games
I can't believe how thorough and well explained this video is! Thank you!
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Just picked up an FX30 (coming from the older Blackmagic Cinema line) and went with the bundle with the top handle - definitely a much-needed accessory in my world. I'm a musician and I do demos on my channel of audio effects units with synths, drum machines, and samplers, and the idea of recording 4 channels of audio EMBEDDED in my video is going to make editing SO MUCH faster/better than syncing up my H4n files. Was super pumped to learn that the handle did 4ch audio. Excited to start using this thing! Appreciate your content btw!
You are going to love the top handle. It makes my life a lot easier. Thanks for watching!
Hey man. Quick question for you. Do you find the quality of the audio via the top handle is similar to running it through an interface? Basically I have been using an interface for my 2 mic video podcast setup. But if this thing works it would save me a huge ball ache of having to connect the mics through an interface into the laptop. Especially on location.
@@HeywoodandStuff It's absolutely good enough for TH-cam! I mean probably not as good as the highest end stuff, but it just depends on your standards. I wouldn't use it to record my album, but I've been happy with it for my videos. If you check out any of the videos on my channel, I'm using it to record the line audio from my music gear and my Beta 58a at the same time, with a free channel to spare.
@@Duskmos thank you dude. Very much appreciate this!
@@HeywoodandStuff Happy to help!
I didn’t want the one with the top Handle at first but man it was a need for sure more than I thought. Perfect when shooting podcast, live streaming and run an gun work.
Yeah, it's super helpful. Thanks for watching!
When live streaming with this as a webcam with the xlr mic in the Camera does the audio work too?
sweetwater xlr for the W. Great Video. Thank you for your time.
Josh, great detail about the mic cable. And handle extension. Thanks!
I just send back my fx30 back this morning and switched to fx3 much better camera although I’ve liked the fx30 but I prefer to get the real best of Sony! It is a real pleasure watching you videos easy to understand than you .
For real?
I am also debating...
I mean... I would buy the FX3 ANYTIME!
But... the MONEY!!!
And I am not getting money in, regularly...
Sir I love your videos. Especially the one about the Slog color correction and white balancing on the fx3. You describe very easy steps to check and setup everything. I have seen many other videos before and it seems like other TH-camrs make the process way too complicated by using external hardware and monitors to setup the exposure on the camera. I like your approach more. Thanks a lot for sharing.
You are very welcome. Glad the videos are helpful for you and thanks for watching!
@2:35 it's important to note the switch will help the battery last much longer. The audio handle pulls quite a bit of power. Nice video Josh!
Thank you for helping me understand the switches/settings on the FX3-XLR mic.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Josh, I am grateful...THANK YOU I am just getting started and your instructions/comments were more helpful than you know!- Again-Thank You
You are very welcome. Glad the video was helpful for you. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video been watching all your fx30 content I think I’m sold
Thank you! It's a solid camera for sure!
You're a beast my friend. Love watching your tutorials. I always learn so much. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Awesome videos Josh!
I think that the XLR-K3M, although not as sexy as the "top handle," is more versatile than the handle--especially for those of us who have Fs7's, a7siii, etc... Also, I'm not a fan of mounting an external monitor on top of the handle, growing the rig upwards and tending towards making the camera front heavy. With a SmallRig half cage, and the XLR-K3m (and a few odds and ends) you can mount an external monitor more in line with the FX30's touchscreen directly below--counterbalancing the rig and lowering the external closer to the flip out. Yes, you lose the cool handle, but in my world; most of the action is better covered from my chest up to eye level... Happy to share my FX30 setup.
Thanks! Yeah, pros and cons of both. It really depends on how you plan to use the camera. I do prefer the top handle for run and gun stuff like I showed in the video, but I agree the XLR-K3M is more versatile overall. Glad we have options!
Thank you, my go to source for learning more about my new gear in between shoots.
Josh, amazing video and thank you! I'm a Sony stills shooter but I'm finding a need for video. You video explained to me the basic setup I'm looking at and for that thank you again!
Glad the video was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Josh you’re so good at explaining and teaching. Just got this handle for my a7iv and your video is really informative and helpful ❤
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
Just what I was looking for! You're the freakin' best Josh
So cool you found this video and was helpful for you. Your videos often help me out so much too! 👊
Shooting a documentary in the next month and this has helped tremendously in planning.
Excellent. Thanks for watching!
just received my NTG5 for my FX3. Subscribed, super helpful!
Thanks for the support!
Very useful and informative, thank you. Going to be ordering an FX30 with top handle to accompany my A7siii.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I have the exact same rig (only a different cable, but I'm buying it now)
Thanks Josh, for a great video. I want to plug sound from a mixer. I see at around 4:30 I have to choose Line Input level. What kind of cable do I use from the mixer ? XLR, 1/4 inch or RCA? Do I plug OUT or IN from the mixer ? Thank you!
Very helpful - thank you!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the info, exactly what I was looking for!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Awesome vid! Thanks, Peace! Hi from downtown Montreal! I have become another one of your devoted subscribers! Sony Cinema Line is interesting to me. I'm a long time Nikon type. Vlog with a Nikon Z30, which I like. Bought a BMCC6K Pro for the price point. I am an elderly newbie film maker. I love the cams I have, but Sony is really cutting edge in supplying what creator's need. Thanks for the learning!
Thank you so much for watching and for the support. I appreciate it!
@Josh Sattin You earned it!
Great in-depth explanation. Thank you. Have you noticed a difference in audio quality using the same mic on the FX6 (direct to camera XLR) and the FX3 top handle, going through the hot shoe?
Thank you! So much value here. Much appreciated!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Never said this to a stranger but I love you lol. 😂 Thanks man!!
Great video! Thanks, now I know how to use my XLR K3M :)
You're welcome. Glad the video was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Nicely explained !
Nice run true of the handle. Thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Very thorough and informative. Thank You.
Thank you so helpful 🙏🏽 Subscribed
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and for the support!
Amazing work! Love it!
Thanks for watching!
I have to say, I still prefer recording into my Zoom H6 and using a shotgun mic to capture reference audio. separating your audio sources helps avoid the pain if something does go wrong. Plus syncing in Premier is super easy nowadays and editing raw 48 /24 audio in Audition is way better than messing around in Premier trying to use the essential sound panel.
Hi, may you kindly drop a link to the xlr short cable please ?😊
I love how detailed you explained about the mic
It’s in the description of the video
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Excellent info. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for explaining so well, helped a lot. I just got Deity S-mic2S for fx3 for run and gun shoot. I am getting lots of handling noise through mic, is there a way to get around this?
Great video and insight! Thanks!. Would you recommend the Sony ECM-MS2 microphone to pair up with this top handle xlr? or which xlr mic would you recommend better? cheers!
Just bought this combo with the Sony mic handle. Is it normal for the mount where the microphone is mounted to be squishy and moves a bit? I’m assuming yes to make it shock proof
thanks for this video! now.... what are the micro USB port for?
Great video, thank you!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
It would be nice if the adapter had a built in mic, like Canon C100.
I need to get one soon!
For sure man! Great to have XLR inputs.
What settings do you use on the Sennheiser? I have the same set up but I want the best audio quality
Thank you so much, this video is great! Just a question: If I choose the 4 channel recording, is it possible, to record with Input 1 and Input 3 simultaneously? I thought about a shotgun mic for input 1 and a lav for input 3 :)
Great video!!
Thanks!
Hey man,
I'm curious if it's possible to use a shoe ribbon adapter, much like you'd see for a remote flash in photography to attach to the handle.
Basically I have a FX3 in a static position mounted above my desk facing down. I prefer keeping it in the small rig cage I have for it. What I'd want to do is use a ribbon shoe apdater from the audio port on the top middle of the camera to the audio handle then mount the audio handle on my overhead. Do you think this is possible? I can't really find information about others doing this.
Thanks in advance
I see one problem though. On the FX3 the audio levels are clearly displayed on the screen. You can see where they fall in regards to 12 DB. On the FX30 the readings are so small you cannot tell where the readings fall.
Hi Josh, I`ve been trying to find a low-profile monitor setup for my FX3 with top-handle. But I can`t figure it out. I always end up too tall. It looks like a tower. Did you find something? GREAT videos by the way :)
are the 4 channels of audio saved separately for post mixing or is it just one?
Hi. Cool Video. Thanks. Do I record one or two audio tracks if two microphones are connected (one XLR, one TRS)?
Thank you- this is a great vid! One question though... On my FX3, if I have a sony xlr shotgun mic plugged into the 2 xlr inputs and a Rode Wireless Pro rx plugged into input 3 for two lav mics, what should the input select switch be set to? Or does it even matter if the audio in the menu is set to 4 channel?
On the fence on the fence!!!! So, can you talk about the pre-amps on the unit? I'm struggling with either grabbing the xlr top handle with the FX30 or using the cash to pick up the Rodecaster Duo on release in July. I know the Duo offers the ability to tweak the sound quality and add effects to the mic (NT1 Gen 5), BUTTTTT, I do like the idea of not having to match audio in post. Is that the main question people ask themselves haha? My use case will be in office talking head, streaming/zoom calls and the odd single podcast. Thanks in advance and you've got a new sub! Great content. Peter, Vancouver.
The pre-amps are average. Not amazing but not awful. The convenience is great though and you won't have any sync issues when streaming because the audio and video get send together to your computer.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks a mil for the reply. Can there be synch issue when streaming? I was looking at the streamer x and Ecamm live set up. Looks like it streamer x provides one audio/video source into ecamm. Thanks again, ordered body only in the end. Am I going to regret this? Haha. Cheers.
@@peteroates37 I haven't used the Streamer X so I don't know how it handles that. If you are sending audio and video separately into your computer they will not sync up. You will have to go into Ecamm and set a manual delay. You can always buy the XLR handle separately later if you change your mind. I have done streaming a lot of different ways and personally always prefer to send the audio into the camera to avoid syncing issues.
I buy an FX3 XLR Top Handle for my a7IV(I use Adapter plate SmallRig MD4019)And it works well, I'm satisfied!..But when I turn on 4 channels, and connect a microphone to input 1 (or 2), and a wireless microphone to input 3, then it doesn’t work for me not to write to the camera 3 and 4 channels. And if I select 4-channel sound in the menu, then I see that channels 3 and 4 are not active .... What am I doing wrong?... ..., sorry for my English.
Great video! I just got the fx30 with the top handle. Just a quick question: if I’m holding the handle with my right hand, how can I enable the recording function with my left.
Thanks. Button number 6 on the front.
@@Josh_Sattin Lol! Don't know how I missed that great button.... Yet one more reason I love this camera. Your channel has become my "go to" resource. Keep up the great work!
What happens if I have two DJI transmitters and I want to connect those 4 microphones?
Thank you for this video. As a warning for musicians and audio guys I have to say the preamps are not good and produce a lot of noise. A solution is to use an external preamp with a lot of gain and go into the Line Input at 0dB and very low input volume. But even then it‘s not going to catch up with the Zoom F3.
Can't wait till where technology gets to where we get quality xlr accessories like these that aren't the size of the camera themselves.
That would be sweet! We need a smaller sized pro audio standard.
@@Josh_Sattin We already do. It's called Dante and uses ethernet cables (not super portable though). There's also mini-xlr which isn't as bulky.
Thank you very much brother
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Hey Josh! Thanks so much for the video! Quick question, I have my rode ntg4+ connected into ch1 and my shure VP83 shotgun mic in the input 3 with the 3.5mm. I switched the back input to the very top so that input 3 goes to ch 1,2. so far, i think im correct. now to adjust the audio for the 3.5mm, i would still adjust it under input 3 correct? or does that now switch to input 1 controls. thanks!
Will it work fine when teleprompter used? Does it have enough space put teleprompter on Lens like Sigma F1.4 16mm?
Hey Josh, absolutely life saving review! Thank you so much. Instant sub. I have an AVX mic and when I put the INPUT on the MIC position, it doesn't work... I have to use MIC +48v (Phantom power) which is really weird as the AVX is powered by internal batteries... Am I missing something?
You are very welcome. Yeah, I do think you need phantom power for some reason. Easy enough though.
@@Josh_Sattin cool, I was afraid it could damage the mic if adding the camera power to the internal battery power… but well, as it didn’t work any other way either, I guess it was the way to go …
That is strange, cause that is the purpose of batteries... when needing phantom power in the mic.
Otherwise, if a "normal" mic, then it should have worked directly plugged in the camera, like my lav mic.
@@WEHAVETHISDREAM it’s strange indeed .. when I plug in a “classic” Senheiser receiver (those that works with AA batteries) I don’t need phantom power .. but the AVX receiver , I do .. maybe the battery is too small and serves for the radio signal but needs extra power either way
@@Superjeanmarc Pffff... I have no idea.
Really good and helpful video thanks - I’ll sub. Didn’t actually answer what I wanted to find out though! 😂 I do weddings and typically use zoom H1s with lav mics for most of my audio, but always looking for backup options and was wondering how good the audio would be from a microphone attached to the handle and about 15-20 feet away from the speaker - I would assume not great? I’m thinking wedding ceremonies on a tripod that distance from the couple.
You're welcome. You will get better audio quality the closer you can get the microphone to the subject.
All that review but no audio examples? How are the preamps sound?
Hey. Do this handle use battery power? I mean if I will use it with my fx30 the battery will run out quicker? Maybe it depends on the mic which I will use? If yes, what if I will be using "rode video mic micro" with an adapter? It will still use my fx30 battery power? Thanks in advance
So it appears that the level control labeled INPUT 3 is actually the level control for input 3 and 4? (There are 4 independent channels, but only 3 controls, right?)
the dials on the unit are not front facing....is there any way of controlling the audio levels from the camera while using the XLR inputs?
I tried setting it up, but I got static and noise. I ended up using the 3.5 mic without the top handle. I'm not sure why, but I get cleaner audio without it.
attenuation should be set to 10db. this reduces the volume-sensitivity of the mic...is also what Sony recommends...
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the support!
I have almost everything in my cart. I'm wondering, Is there a place for me to plug in headphones to listen to the audio?
The camera has a headphone jack.
Hi, One more thing! The Micro USB Port in the XLR-H1 handle!!! What is for?!?
i came for the same reason!
@@patamuslo69 any idea?!
@@WissamTerjman not yet, and really curious, i connected to computer and is NOT a usb compliant audio interface 🤷
How do I get my deity s mic to fit in the holder?
is the fx30 xlr handle the exact same to the fx3 handle?
I believe so.
Josh, what do you recomend to use in the shock mount for an fx3 as an all around situation mic, run and gun and also studio work ? usually the talent is like 5m or 5feet away from the camera, Sennheiser MKH 8070 or Sennheiser MKH 8060 or Sennheiser MKH 418 S or your beloved MKH 50-P48 ?
My favorite all around mic is the Rode NTG5 - geni.us/Yi7A5S
@@Josh_Sattin Can it be bought with black rather then the red mic holders? And can a wind shield protector thing be found without RODE printed on it? I like everything clean without adverts all over it. It just looks quite tacky imo. I see on your desk no RODE display on the mic.
So how do you hook a mic up to a fx30 ? That’s the only thing I’m having issues with and how to turn it on with full storage ready to record for hours
When using the xlr on the fx3, I have a shure sm7b with a focusrite and sound colloid filter, do I also connect the cloud filter to the fx3? And the focus rite?
Hey Josh, would you still use the top handle over a external recorder?
It depends on what I'm doing. For simple quick setups or run and gun I would use the top handle. If I need a lot of audio inputs and am doing something more elaborate than I would consider external audio. For most things I do, the top handle is great.
Hey when recording basketball i can still hear myself do you know how to fix that
What is the micro usb port under the handle for?
The problem is the cost, it's enough for buyer to get latest 32bit float recorder like Zoom F3/F6
Indeed, I'd go for the recorder unless only one mic is to be used, and it may as well be on the camera. For me I want every option, and would take the F6 first over the handle. I have g4 levs already.
where does this "second audio track" show up...when I open resolve and go to fairlight I see one track...
I dont know what I did but my top handle just stopped working or I accidentally hit something. i just recorded with no sound lol. Going to troubleshoot
Hello, Mr. Sattin!
Can you take the audio unit off the handle?
For situations when you do not need to record any audio... and might just leave the unit home,
to not... have it on top all the time?
Unfortunately you can not remove the audio interface from the handle.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks!
Do you know what the micro USB under the main part of the handle does? Its there, has a cover, and is undocumented?
Quick question.. could I connect an SM7B mic directly into the handle since it has phantom power? Or do I need a cloudlifter?
Nevermind… you answered my question 2min later in the video 😂
Im having trouble mounting the handle. Anyone else? Any suggestions - gotta be missing something. Just wont fit
Thank you so much for the excellent video Question I have a shot gun mic and wireless lav. Can I put shot gun on and link ch 1 and 2 and then add a wireless lav and input to channel 3? If so what do I slide the input selector to ch1.ch2 or ch3. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Yes you can do that. Make sure you have 4 channel audio turned on inside the camera. On the back handle switch set it to In1 and have the linked switch turned on channel 2 on the side.
@@Josh_Sattin great... thank you so much for your time!
I find it bizarre that anyone would choose to not get the top handle. The audio input option is priceless.
My biggest gripe after excessively working with the FX3 is the lack of a REC button. It has the interface to send 24bit audio, there must’ve been room for a programmable button or two. Would save a lot of awkward fiddling to hit the other REC buttons
Oh yeah, a record button on the top handle would have been amazing!
I am debating with myself between NO handle and YES handle.
I do not do audio stuff, normally, but I did have a project from a client,
where I had to use a Tascam recorder.
DaVinci can match the audio pretty easily and all... but,
not having the need for an external recorder, could be cool.
BUT, I do not know how often I will have clients like those...
Does anyone know what the micro usb port is for on the Sony XLR handle?
Hello! Can I record sound directly to the built-in microphone FX3 and ECM-B1M hotshoe mic?
I don't think that is possible since to have 4 channel audio you need the XLR top handle.
Is there a way for me to connect a USB microphone directly to my FX30? Like the Sennheiser Profile
Unfortunately not that I know of. That mic is made to plug into a computer via USB.
@@Josh_Sattin Gotcha. Thank you
Hey where did you get your lamp from in the back?
Ikea
@@Josh_Sattin Thank you!
my audio skills are so bad....I might just by that new zoom m3 with 32 bit and sit it on top of the $500 xlr handle.
are the top handles the same for both the fx3 and fx30 ? and are they interchangeable? (could an fx30 audio handle also be used on the fx3)
Yes.
Hello
Thank you for your kind explanation and guidance.
It's a comment from a year ago contents, but there's something I can't solve, so I'm inquiring.
For my fx3 camera, I set the ni shoe 2ch setting on camera and input1.input2 on XLR. Then when I check the file I recorded on premier pro, the sound is confirmed on audio channel 1 to stereo, is there any way to make it appear on audio channel 1 and channel 2 mono respectively?
The context can be strange because it's a question through a translator. I'm sorry about this.
I unfortunately do not use Premiere Pro so I can't offer you any guidance with this.