2020 Raptor Plans - Applying 3 Years of Lessons Learned
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- In 3 years of off-roading our 2017 Raptor we made a lot of mistakes and suffered a lot of damage. As we look at planning the 2020 Raptor built we want to apply those lessons learned into the new build. So check out the video as we go over the current plans for the Raptor. Lots of lessons learned so bear with us and check out to the end. We address a lot of your questions here.
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Stopped the video..... went to Urban Dictionary to look up that catchy phrase....."Lime Greeeeeeennnnnn"! I must be getting old. You need to sell Keep it Dirty Off-Road T-Shirts in of course..........Lime Green!
Lime green , I'd fly with it . Lime green wrap on the whole truck . Lol
I reccomend "real" KO2s for tires. The ones that come with the truck, and tires that come with every new vehicle for that matter, are not designed by the tire manufacturers. They are designed by the vehicle manufacturer and come WAY too soft for the tread compound. My first set last 19k miles. Give them another chance if your only experience with bfg is the OEM tires.
Check out the Falken Wildpeak ATs or MTs. They have a great warranty, perform exceptionally well in Rain and Snow. Most importantly, they are great for off roading. However, these are on my Jeep and I've never done any kind of Baja high speed driving.
I've heard good things about the Wildpeak AT's. From other Raptor guys. But yeah a big truck compared to a Jeep or even a Taco impact the performance of the tires big time. A lot of jeep and taco guys swear by the KO2's but they weight 1200 lbs or More less than a truck and will never hit the speeds we do in the Raptors offroad.
man this build is gonna be so sick
Andy Brooks thanks man. Going to take me a while to get it all done, and will probably go broke in the process but she’s going to be a solid truck
I'm running a set of Raceline beadlocks on my Wagon with 37x13.5. They are 0 offset with 5" backspace. They work fine for my truck. The only downside was the wait time. Ive got a black power wagon so stripping is just a way of life. Lucky with the black i can put a gloss glaze and cover most of them up. I lucked into wraping the truck with Xpel but for the truck it almost would of been 11 grand.
Joe Hansen really like the Raceline monsters and it’s a wheel I’m seriously considering. As for paint protection it’s seems like that’s the consensus. Just protect key areas and deal with the rest with wax or regular details
Thank you brother for this video! I have a 2020 supercab that I’m very much looking forward to modifying and with your previous experience I’m excited to see what you will do on this truck!
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Tony
Antonio Aguilar thanks man.
Have you taken a look at the KHC Raptor Torque Arm? I just had mine installed and it's a fantastic piece of gear especially with the rear diff skid plate included. It really locks the rear end down without interfering at all with ground clearance or articulation. No more wheel hop and hwen you step on it there is less delay in power to wheels by reducing the rear axle twist.
Excited to watch the upgrades. Especially the wheels you pick.
Wheels are such a hard choice. So many options and some are very expensive.
No doubt.
Sounds great man. I’ve heard of some downsides to those chamber locks, but I can’t seem to remember what that was. Will let you know if I find that. I have Toyo Open Country RTs, great on and off road. I’ve also heard General Grabber X3s are great, plus the colored lettering adds another look to the truck. Built right stuff is great, I have all of it. I bent one rack because I strapped my heavy 3ton pro eagle jack to it. Don’t do that. :) Matt was nice enough to replace it for me! GearHeads have the best tune so far, I have heard people disappointed with most others but not this one. It handles transmission, any octane gas, etc. then I added their larger Turbos, I theoretically have around 700 hp with that, the tune, intercooler, intake, down pipes, etc. Still working on what to do with the bed, have a bakflip mx4 to keep things secure daily. But that limits the options for tire storage in there. Right now just one tire strapped down with the Britton Bravery fab tire rack. Need something like Krazy House Customs modular rack that can change from one tire under cover flat, to two tires upright for big off roads trips. Look forward to future videos.
Aaron Massey definitely let me know on the drawbacks. I ran my locks for 3 years and only had to do realignment after I lawndarted the truck. For off-road they are great.
That's a lot of plans $$$$$, cant wait to see it all come together. You should look at getting the Innov8 wheels. Those are potentially in my list for this year.
What about adding a diff skid plate? I just added the Foutz Motorsports diff skid and really like how beefy it is.
Ryan Nolan I know man. Going broke building this truck. Innov8 wheels are a dream lost item for the truck. But at a few grand just for the wheels it’s a pipe dream and way too expensive.
As for the diff, in 3 years of off-roading i barely suffered any damage to the rear diff. My biggest problem back there was sand blasting. Eventually I would do a skid plate back there, but not before replacing all the other skid plates first
So you 1st had mentioned the caster camber kit. A must have on the raptor. But then you mentioned the krazy house reinforcement slot eliminator kit. An even better must have item. Wonder if the Krazy house set up could be set up with the slot to use with a caster / camber so you don't have to replace the upper arm. Not sure if that is a good idea or not. Another thing on the Krazy house, I believe you wont be able to reuse the stock skid plate. Forged offroad has a set up that might be worth looking at. Just a thought brother. Gonna be a great build......
David Jordan going to be a bit before I’m ready for the bolt kit, so I’m the mean time I’ll do the cam locks. Right before the bolt kit I’ll do the KHC slot delete reinforcement. At that point adjustment with be with the upper control arms which is better. At for the skid plate, yeah I’m aware and was planning on just drilling and adding some bolts or hopefully have enough for a new bumper by then
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad If you can keep the stock skid plate, that would be good as it is about the only skid that helps to protect the LCA tabs. I think Icon has the only other option with the same protection. Unless you custom make something. Glad to see you are going to figure out how to make the chase rack work. That is the piece that makes the truck yours.
David Jordan thanks man. And agree on the rack. I’m itching to get it back on
falken wildpeak at3ws or wildpeak m/t for tires. I'm surprised you had a bad experience with r1, i just put mine on and they are awesome. The truck stops crazy fast
Yeah man, Not with the abuse I put mine thru. I had better performance for like a month. Then they started to perform just as bad as stock brakes. Brake fade went quick too and you could see that the rotors were a little cooked after a few months. But that was not even the worse part man. Their customer service was just bad trying to get the right parts. 4 attempt to get the right pads and spacers. And they lied twice telling me they send the HD pads when in fact sent me their cheap Basic pads. Will never use them again.
Keep It Dirty Off-Road ah gotcha, I’m not that hard on my truck so hopefully they’ll last a while. I got them from Texas shock works for $480 on Black Friday so I think they’re okay at that price but I’d love to have alcons at some point
Jack Brink yeah, me too
Oil seperator is another great engine mod, Im sure you've heard of them and they work great, i have one on my 2.7
Andy Brooks I have but there is not much info into the benefits of it. Aside from collecting oil. You hear about even on both sides. Turbo engines are designed to burn a little bit of oil and Ive heard that if done wrong it can force the engine to pull timing and reduce power. That alone scared me away from them. I’m sure if done right it will work great. But I have no clue how to find out what’s a good kit.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad JLT
@@spearonehard JLT only makes a single stage separator. With a turbocharged engine you aren't catching oil under boost. You need something like the UPR dual valve system.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad The UPR dual valve system is the ticket. Not possible to pull timing or reduce power. Cleaning the air of fuel will only increase the octane and increase engine life. I've seen a lot of the same garbage about pros and cons and people suggesting a single valve system that is near useless with a turbocharged engine.
Pat I don’t know man, I personally don’t trust catch cans. Even the UPR ones.
Try the Geo landers At tires they have a good grip on and off road quit on pavement and are lighter than the BFG’s
Saud Al Shuaibi thanks, I’ll look into them
I have the RPG Bolt kit. I wouldn’t do it again. Look at Camburg Engineering new Gen 2 front long travel. It’s slick and adds a trick bump stop.
Hason Lavajunk very little feedback available online on the bolt kits. Why wouldn’t you do the RPG kit again? Would love to hear some real world feedback on it.
There is nothing wrong with RPG Bolt kit. It’s been a decent kit for utilizing factory length coilover/bypass. It widened the track another 6” which is not a big deal if you can handle the TT width around town. I also have the RST 18 kit like yours, but +3 Deavers and 3.5 Fox.
If I did it again, why not utilize a kit branded from a legit race company (Camburg) that pushes arms forward 1” so there no rubbing the inner fender well with 37’s, and only increases track 3” wider vs RPG’s 6”. Plus you get their sweet bump stop kit. Camburg’s kit utilizes your stock spindles unlike RPG’s kit, which are definitely sexy strong, but Camburg may add it to their kit.
It looks like you have a good relationship with RPG, so that’s a tough decision. RPG’s kit is definitely old tech long travel though and you have a high tech Raptor.
@@hasonlavajunk9774 You bring up some great points because rubbing is still a problem with RPG's kit if your using 37. Do the pinch welds need to be bent with Hamburgs kit? or does the 1 in forward take that into account? But using stock spindles worry me. They need to be reinforced with a LT kit. Shit they need to be reinforced with the stock kit. I've seen too many of them bend.
The 1” forward arms handle the rubbing issue, however it also depends on which 37” tire you choose. Cut/bend the pinch welds is the smart way to do it. That will help tuck in the inner fender liners if you go with Advanced Fiberglass fenders. Inner liners help keep things clean. Fenders are a must or tires will rub on heavy compression. It will also look funny with tires sticking out so far on stock fenders.
I don’t work for Camburg, but I’ve used their kits in the past and was impressed. This kit is new but tested. Maybe give them a call and see if their kit will come with spindles in near future. Spindles will probably add another 3”, equaling RPG’s track width.
Hason Lavajunk yeah, I’m not so worried about the width. It’s more important to me that it tracks right and the axel angles is not so extreme that the boots keep failing.
Thanks for the info. I’m going to look into them.
Your kid is awesome lol .
Bill Olah thanks man
Lime green 22 inch wheels
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i wish this was my dad
Nice!!! I recommended checking out forged off road for a lot of the stuff you want including the custom skid plates and rock sliders. I'm having them do some custom bumpers, skids, and sliders for me sometime this year. I look forward to seeing your vhf radio install want to see if I can improve my setup. And also curious about your side protection I have lightning blue and am always pin stripping it lol. I got ppf on the hood and front but doubt it would hold up to my abuse lol
SERGIO ACEVEDO forged offroad is a great shop with some cool products. But they are in NorCal and too far away for me. Need to find someone local to make dropping off the truck and checking up on it easy.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad same I wish they were closer it's like a 6 hour drive for me. Also thanks for the heads up on Cobb I was thinking about their stage 1 kit but I like my truck stock tbh. I've heard bad things about rpg customer service in some of my raptor runs but maybe they have gotten better since you seem happy with them. I need to find a good fab shop because I also want to work on a 66 mustang project I'm thinking about so keep us posted.
SERGIO ACEVEDO RPG is a solid shop. But they are small and they are busy. They don’t have time to answer the phone and barely keep up with demand. I’ve found that if you go out and talk to them in person they roll out the red carpet. So I always hit them up in person now and get amazing customer service
I've got a set of white knuckle offroad sliders, they are out of southern California, they make good quality stuff for my dodge
Joe Hansen thanks man. Will have to check them out.
i have the cobb tune and i thought i was going crazy when i noticed the transmission started acting up.
Aaron Luis Arriaga yeah man, it got super annoying. Not putting that crap on my new truck.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad just did the MPT tune, they do the trans as well. The truck is better than ever. This is what I imagined a raptor should be. Check out their reviews, I recommend them 100%.
My R1 rotors work great. Went with different pads though, R1 pads dont have good reviews.
TheHardcoreLife R1 pads are awful and R1had really bad customer service to boot
Looking forward to your build I’m guessing you’re not worried about your warranty?
majestic 12 suspensions warranty will be out the door once I start nodding the back end, but even still the engine and bumper to bumper stuff will still be good
Don’t know what model camera you had but I have had good luck with my Rove r2-4k
majestic 12 I had cheap Go Pro nock offs. They were battery based so very unreliable as a dash camera. I have a new video combing with a highly rated camera that has some great features like error notification when it can’t record
What about air fresheners? That should be up there on your list. You spend the majority of the time on the inside and air quality is of upmost importance.
Joe R. 🤣🤣🤣 I change the cabin air filter often for that very reason
I can’t believe in 2010 on a Raptor such a high end truck my tail gate has a key lock only... no remote lock/unlock... no automatic tail gate drop.. it just seems like something that should of been included on a raptor even for 2010
Kyle Paquette Ford was the first full size truck to do it, and it wasn’t an option till 2015 I think.
Keep It Dirty Off-Road ya that’s unfortunate... hey I heard u say u had your old deavers on a previous truck re arched and beefed up some more. Did u go directly through deaver to get that done?
Kyle Paquette yeah, basically took my truck to them fully loaded and they rearched my HD+4s and added a few leafs to carry the weight better.
I’m selling a set of Method 305 NV wheels from my Raptor for $600. In perfect condition, about 3k miles on them. Didn’t care for the look with my white Raptor. If you’re interested, I’ll send you pics.
Thanks man, Appreciate the offer. But I need something strong. I've seen too many Method wheels grenade on heavy off-roading. What would have bent my Forged wheels would have completely destroyed a set of Methods.
What about frame cut bumpers/dovetail?
That 14 Raptor I briefly talked about it at the end. My first goal is to take care of the suspension, Comms, and carry gear. Essentially the functional and safety stuff. Once all that is done then it’s the style stuff like the bumpers. Really digging crazy house customs new frame cut bumper and SVCs new rear bumper.
Lime green raptor would be sick!!!!!!!!!!
Carl Black almost got the wife to get a mojito Green Jeep. It looked good on the Jeep
Love the wheels would love to buy them from you if it’s not too late
H/C 707 the stock wheels?
You don’t want these man. I actually offroad my truck and the spokes stick out too far. They all have some sort of damage on them now.
Keep It Dirty Off-Road yes I know their stock wheels I don’t off-road that much most of my off-road is around the construction site
U have a cool kid
Bill Olah thanks man 🙏🙏
Did you mean Toyo R/T 'S
My Single Track Addiction 🤦♂️🤦♂️ good catch. Totally spaced on that one since Toyo and Nitto are made by the same company.
No worries. My brain wasn't computing nitto r/t 's. Keep up the great work.
Im looking to do geiser springs with deaver +3 and new front bumper to put 37's on. you think the springs and deavers +3 make the truck leveled? eventually ill do full on mid travel suspension
Dante Di Ciolli Emory yes, but any weight in the back. No.
The Geiser springs wont settle past the 2.5in lift. But Deavers or even icon will settle and sag with weight in the back. Deavers +3 is just 1in over stock and if you carry any gear in the back you may need 2 or even 3 over stock.
As for 37s I have a whole video on that. Even with trimming and bending pinch welds you will see major rubbing. And potentially rip off your fenders offroad. Check out my video here:
How to fit 37's on a Raptor th-cam.com/video/GCuqQMVpAhw/w-d-xo.html
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad You're a pro! I cant thank you enough for the information, hard to find accurate info online. Just watched your 37's video and I might be switching to 35's now hahah I wont need deaver springs if I do that.
Dante Di Ciolli glad it helped. Wish other would be honest about switching to 37s. Even with upgrades fenders you can’t avoid rubbing with 37s.
Are your stock wheels for sale?
Carlos Acevedo no not yet. Still need to find some aftermarket ones
I have a 2018 raptor, and since youre a previous owner, I’m suprised you decided to get another one, I hate the ecoboost motor, it sounds so lame, and its really unreliable, hopefully 2021 they bring back the reliable v8.
Ford is committed to the ecoboost platform. They won’t go to a V8. If they were going to do a V8 we would have seen that engine already in the GT.
There is also nothing close to a Raptor and I beat up my 17 Raptor for 66k miles and had very little go wrong. My 17 was the most reliable truck I’ve had. Those that have problems with the Raptor usually baby it or let it sit in traffic. I find this engine is happiest going down the trails at high revs.
Km3s
KM3s looks very promising. BUT. No long term reviews (cus they just came out a year ago) so no word on how long they will last. If it’s the same compound as the KO2s it won’t be much. I have yet to see any of the off-roader that beat up their trucks on the regular put them on their trucks too. So they are kind of a gamble right now in my mind
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