Creating A Storage Platform In Your Attic
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Ah yes, coming home from a long day's work to relax and watch someone else do work.
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There is something therapeutic about watching someone else work while relaxing on the sofa. xD
Everyday haha
I am different, before I go work I watch someone else work 😁😁... Cheers
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The long wait is over! Your content is awesome! Thanks for inspiring me to get some work done in my house... :D
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I hope I can find some one like Scott one day to work with. Watching these videos it would be an absolute dream to work everyday in a fun, rewarding environment.
would probably get old real fast though
Very nicely done. Of course the only problem with NZ ceiling spaces is they are not insulated from the roof and, as you pointed out, very hot. I hope they don't intend on storing heat sensitive or delicate items up there.
Want to do the same in my loft. Talking about safety. We now NEED to put in one of those folding ladders in. Two weeks ago I used a normal straight ladder to access our loft. It slipped out from under me when I was at the top, almost fully in the loft. I fell about 2.9m with the ladder. Landed badly with my left foot and fractured my ankle and tore ligaments. Now in a airboot and crutches for 6 weeks! I'm lucky it could have been worse.
If you lay the wood across the rafters like this then you add weight to the roof, fine no big deal thats the whole point so you can add more weight by storing stuff up there.
However if you lay the wood in line with the rafters and bond them together, glue and screw, you made the rafter thicker and the roof stronger. Same amount of wood, more hassle to fit but strengthens the roof instead of using up some of the strength.
I'm assuming you have to run them the whole length?
Enjoyed that one, anything more satisfying than seeing ply flooring being laid over some joists? Just me? 😂
Watching so much Scott brown started to use words like packers at work here in the states.
Nice. That's awesome. I live in Canada, I mostly don't notice how different things are, other then how chill they work.
Yea it’s crazy how easy going, and just relaxed the are. I’m a commercial carpenter my sites can be hectic, and seem to only be quite when I am prepping for a walk thru and final turnover.
I did this about 1/3 of my garage, and used 3/4 “ (1.9cm) plywood, but I didn’t add any studs in between. I looked at yours but couldn’t tell what size plywood you were using? I did this 20years ago and everything is ok. I use the space for storing tires, wheels and various car parts. I have a similar pull down ladder, but mostly made of aluminum, with reinforcing in laminated wood. The builder put the access point in such a way, that I can pull down the ladder, even with all 3 cars in the garage. The garage is attached to my home.
Idk why but the pink lumber always cracks me up.
In my 60's house the original water header tank was sitting on the trusses which isn't cool.
I built two platforms, one for storage and one for the water tanks.
They are now floating above the trusses, with joists sitting in mortared in hangers in the gables at one end and resting on load bearing walls at the other.
Proper job 👍
Excellent added storage area!😎
Y'all must have your load bearing walls packed pretty close together. USA codes wouldn't allow you to put down flooring on top of 2x4 lumber, unless maybe you did 12" on center spanning like 2 feet max.
That’s a pog of a job, I rema couple of years ago adding additional insulation in our loft. Horrible stuff and so hot even in January in France
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I think it's the child in me, but I love the way you say 'Decking'
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Gotta love waking up and hearing “ Scott brown here” just a relaxing reminder that any job can be fun and worth it
I agree. I believe that they put a lot more planning into the work and have quality skilled trades that all of his projects go smoothly. That how he makes great content while doing such amazing work.
Just finished my attic. Storage! Luckely i did it the same way. Greetings from Holland.
In the States we call that Crowning the joists.
It also becomes important for wall studs if you intend to tile or hang cabinets.
A little time spent paying attention pays big dividends when it comes to finish.
Hello. Your videos inspire me to work if it's not difficult then turn on subtitles because I don’t know English.
and you can learn a lot.
good luck with your work.
Tap the CC button on the screen. Captions are autogenerated into English where I live. You may be offered your native language where you live.
They not trusses.It is what is called a close couple roof,Rafters,ceiling joists,and the mid height horizontal members are collar ties.It all acts as a triangle to prevent the weight of the roof pushing the rafters out which would try to force the walls out.
Trusses mimic that idea but are all made in one peice and can span up to 12m in one go.(and more),
In that old system the spans are much less hence the struts and underpurlins. The collar ties are ussually at the same height as the underpurlins.The underpurlins support the rafter mid span and are themseleves supported by the struts which go down onto the walls
This man is the reason I have an apprenticeship in carpentry and joinery
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Love the overhang and forethought. One thing I like to do for areas like that is a little perimeter lip so boxes don’t go flying through the ceiling when things get messy up there
I'm gonna use the two-tshirt advantage! We got a hot one tomorrow
Great job, however I would have laid the insulation in line with the original roof joists rather than in line with your new ones. When you laid the insulation it hops over the original joists causing small voids near the joists. A thermal imaging camera, from the living area, would show greater heat loss in these areas. Maybe not such a big problem in lovely NZ but we need every bit of heat retention over in the UK.
The sign of a true craftsman: finishing the edges.
I did this in my attic space a few months ago, and it’s brilliantly reassuring to see you do it the exact same way!
Me too! Also reassuring to know I’m not the only one who procrastinated doing the insulation, followed by the sweat and toil of doing it! 😂
@@sambos7880 One of the rare jobs suited for the winter 😂
Yes. Bout time Scott saves me from my day
Did you say apprentice!? I can be on the next flight to Auckland!
Not if I get there before u
Scotty, im from nz, when I have to get in ceiling and muck with batts
Like you I wear white suit, but I bring a few old towels, soak them in water, put them around your neck then over your head, tgen white suit on, hood over your head , then mask.
The towels keep you cool and fibreglass fibres stick to wet towel not you,
Works fantastic, bring 2 tshirts
I'm saving this one for later! Cheers mate
@@ScottBrownCarpentry just remember to bring a couple towels, cause if u come out halfway through, then go back up, you can't use same towel as it has fibres on it
5:00 Scott sounding like Darth Vader
Hey Scott! Recently struggled around my attic for a while with putting in insulation, can lights, running new circuits, and installing a beam. I realized towards the end that compression sleeves (like the ones for exercising) are great for working up there. It kept 99% of the insulation off my arms while being up there for hours, and kept me pretty cool. Easy to slip on and off. You still end up getting the rest of your clothes dirty though.
Always gotta wear 2 work shirts no matter what 🤪
rain or shine it’s always a win win 😝😝
Very neat job, I’ve done the same - ideal for suitcases and Christmas decorations storage. 😃👌👏👏👏
The attention to detail you guys put into everything do is amazing.
Loft jobs are always fun and in Oz can be a serious problem with the heat. Have got very close to heat stroke and become quite woosy at times when trying to work up there above 40C. With all that kit on and a fireman's resperator not surprised you were hot. In my experience most apprentice's make even more fuss about doing insulation than you do. I still do most of my own as it doesn't bother me too bad. A lot of the newer stuff is way better than it used to be.
Scott ... you forgot something very important when you lifted the batt insulation and exposed the ceiling gyproc, the wall top plates, wire entrances, additional voids ... etc. With the area now free of insulation it would have been to your advantage - as well as the homeowners - to airseal all the present voids in the attic. l noticed A LOT of dirt on the insulation you lifted. Points toward a real issue with air leakage into the attic space and ultimately a concern in summer and winter ... l recognise the job entailed adding storage decking. But as you know when you open things up in old houses other issues crop up and they need addressed correctly as opposed to covering them over ... Just thought l'd point that out ...
You usually don't air (draft) seal an attic like this, like you're suggesting. That's just asking for a shed load of moisture build-up... Leading to growth of certain stuff you don't want...
Is there a limit on how much coverage you can do this to? so to explain better- In terms of load bearing and added weight to the ceiling/ roof load; is there like a max weight?
Total procrastinating at the beginning. LOL
Hey Scott, I need you and Paerau here to build my home! Thank you for your inspiration! Greetings from Germany
Smoko time finally got to me - I ordered the coffee mug tonight! Now if I could get your Smoko time soundtrack, that would perfectly set the mood for having a cup of coffee and a nice pastry.
th-cam.com/video/L5Hy978N52g/w-d-xo.html enjoy your coffee mate, cheers!
@@ScottBrownCarpentry Is it weird i enjoy your smoko time segments? Got excited when you said smoko time, slightly disappointed this video :P
@@ScottBrownCarpentry just curious,
What thickness ply did you use?
Scott i know what it feels like going into them dirty, dusty hot roofs like that, hey on the bright side at last you didn't have to crawl through it on your hands and knees while running piping and wiring, fitting solar panels would be fun they said.... (memories of working for a plumber haha xD)
Good on ya Scott.......now my client is gonna want me to do the same damn thing.....I should have kept your channel a secret
Haha you're welcome and I'm sorry.
Saved me some googling for a job tomorrow. Champ!
i put a trim board around my platform so boxes couldnt slip over the side
This is exactly what I will be doing at home, this work improves the insulation of the attic and protects the ceiling in the event of water leaking through the roof.
Nice job Scott! (from France)
I hoped for you to build the walls too , but if the owner didn't ask for it, it's ok. Awesome fit for those plywood sheets btw 💪😎
Holy cow, the video production value just went through the roof. Great job! I'm curious to see where things go if you continue to explore this type of creativity in your filming and editing.
buzzing for my smoko time mug
I love the before & after shots. Your expression on the before shot was priceless!
I do that with my daks, always keep a pair in my shop just in case.
Hi, I know what you mean, always keep a spare pair of daks for those shitty jobs! Harera
Do you think Scott that the load on the ceiling joist would crack the plaster joints? Considering that load of the clients items plus being walked on? Wasn’t to clear if you were spaning over the existing ceiling joist that or not! Just curious!
Very good video regarding the new joists and the flooring, not so good regading putting the insulation back. The insulation seemed to be laid undulating across the old joists, leaving tunnels of air either side of the old joists, so effectively only 4" /100mm insulation with large airpaths for heat to escape along lesssening the effectiveness of the insulation. The insulation should have been laid between the old ceiling joists, and a new layer laid across then between the new joists, giving 8" or 200mm insulation overall under the boarding. Still not the currently recommended 12" / 300mm thickness of insulation, but better thabn just 100mm.
I was thinking why don't you have a labourer doing that then I thought ow well you do it all your self sooo and then you said you think its time maybe you will get an apprentice 😂
Attic work always sucks when it's above freezing IMO. Great work on the platform!
"Air gaps" Yeah I know about those... all my woodworking projects have them.
i felt the pain of not wanting to go up there ha top jobe mate
@Scott Brown Carpentry. Thanks for the great lessons Scott. Your attention to details like how you planned and installed the plywood so the owners can add a walls in the attic storage later is neat.
Hope you, Paerau, and your families stay safe and well.
i feel itchy watching this
I know exactly how you feel. A few years back, I insulated my roof with rock wool. Dressed like you in a silly suit and Respirator. This was in winter ( Perth W.A). Nearly collapsed from heat exhaustion. And yes I was drinking like a fish. So a good job...
Snickers trousers 👌
Thanks mate
Ill come apprentice !
That's a $300 bedroom in the Auckland rental market.
Great job y’all all your lacking now is light switch by the entrance with a couple of LED’S
Looks neat tidy and all but storage have to be light and the load spread out he's already put extra load on up there with the 4x2 and plywood hmmm 🤔. correct me if I'm Wong?
I watched this video like 4 times lol.. I need attic storage and I have all trusts.. so I need to do this as well..
Excullunt as usual Scott and Parau
I’ve never seen a video where Scott takes so long to get into it - we’ve all had one of those days 😂
Nobody wants to play with fibreglass bats even with a suit on. It's good to see someone have as much "fun" as I've had doing the same thing.
Horrible job. I've delayed just like that. Doing our own loft, I used marker pen to trace out and cables on the boards. Was extremely useful in years afterwards
Standard for a horrible job like that ... load all the tools and materials up then have a coffee and mentally prepare for the nightmare ahead
@@cuebj i did that also, also did it when i redid our caravan floor (on the ply and then carpet on top) so i or any future owner knows where everything is. Save alot of time if and when you need to get to it
I always wonder about what your old workmates in Scotland would say if you turned up with that Aeropress
I just love watching your videos! I can stop paying for Netflix now and just watch your channel instead. Let me know if you do need an apprentice...
Now my wife wants me to do this to our house.
Hi. Nice bit of finishing using the router to round the edges, its that little bit extra that we all like about your work. Suggestion (past experience), whilst you have the sparky coming next week have him put a couple of lights and a power socket into the roof; it will help the owners when they start putting their junk in the roof and when they have HRV installed it will have somewhere to hook into! Cheers mate. Harera
Loft legs or any generic alternative are good in tight spaces
it's always for the Chrimbo decorations.
One thing I always notice about these old roof structures are that they typically just have a notch in the strut to support the rafters with maybe a single nail through the connection. This is fine for when it's always in compression, as in the case of heavy concrete roof tiles, but when replacement works are done from concrete tiles to corrugated steel roof, it's always a good idea to think about strengthening this connection as there is now the ability for suction wind pressures to form and make the strut go into tension for a bit. Lot's of proprietary products out there to address this, but may be ideal to select one that limits the amount of work you have to do when dealing with old, hard and split-prone timber!
1st t-shirt -> first smoko
2nd t-shirt -> second smoko
3rd t-shirt -> knock off
4th t-shirt -> go home fresh
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What thickness was the ply you used? Was it marine ply?
Couldn't you have laid the ply crossways across the existing joists instead of adding additional joists?
Could the new joists be laid on the 100mm edge?
Thanks in anticipation .
i was curious about this aswell.. laying it across the existing joists
If you lay the ply on the existing ceiling joists, you limit the anount of insulation you can have (just the depth of the joist, so 100mm not the 300mm you should have nowadays) and, as the ceiling joists were only sized for the weight of plasterboard, anything you store on the plywood will have weight, causing the ceiling joists to deflect and very likely the ceiling to crack, normally along the joints in the plasterboard. His soution, if you listen to the video carefully, is to raise the new joist a little bit above the old ones spanning from the top of one wall to the other, so that they don't bear on to the old joists at all, so the ceiling below doesn't crack.
In practice, the new joists will defelect a bit when they are loaded up with boxes and a person walking on them, but probably not enough to worry about.
@@robertsmart7484 yup that's what I did and got 2400x600 flooring to go in.
Elvis Presley hair style !!
Boarding out my loft mate so would you say plywood or Standard OSB board which works out cheaper 👍
Great video. Thinking of doing that at my place. Like the easing of the edge of the ply a the entrance. Nice touch.
Man, going in the attic for work, really does suck. No one likes it, and the temp diff from there and house can easily be 30°; which is pretty amazing if think about it.
I’d say if going up in an attic or crawl space, definitely a 4 shirt job, and even pants/shorts, socks, and underwear….Cuz when come down, YOUR ALWAYS DRENCHED! So love when find a remodel that has a conditioned attic, they so nice and love to be “spoiled”😆
See ya✌🏻
The kind of thoughtful carpentry like leaving that overhang for the wall is what got me hooked on this channel. While not always applicable, watching you has really inspired me to up my carpentry game.
You did good Scott... that was not an easy attic space to work in.
I totally feel you doing anything before tackling the task of cleaning up the attic!
Keep up the good work scott
awesome video bro
Finally
But have you had a meatball potato top pie from the bakers cottage! It’s lovey!
see the mess, put the kettle on 😊👍
Just bring a jig saw up there and cut the notches out
Scott says time for an apprentice, 3000 applicants apply
It’s called a Robertson.
The thought of having so much (insulation) stuff in your house that forces you to wear a mask and protective gear is really not comforting. Nowadays luckily we have great alternatives out of wood fibres around here (Germany). You can work with it easily without having to worry about your health or producing tons of non-recycable garbage. Hope this is available in New Zealand too one day :-)
Where can I find some fancy pink wood?
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