I'm happy you like it! I'm working on a new review comparing an inexpensive enclosure with an expensive one. Should be posted in two days. Thanks for watching!
Thanks again for watching! No worries, I was actually in the Apple Store this afternoon buying some things. I spoke with one of the folks there and she wasn't clear on the chips currently in the computers. She was thinking the 16 inch MacBook Pro had an M3 Ultra chip but of course the top chip available in that computer is the M3 Max. I am waiting for the Studio with the M3 Ultra and I hope it's here by June! There are so many different specs it's hard to keep up with! I have a couple more videos coming up in the next few days. Sebastian is a happy, energetic little guy. When he crashed out on the couch for a nap I had to get the picture!
Short answer is they need wiggle room for buffer as well. You will never get a full 40gbs speed. But the right ssd you are using with this type of enclosure will determine the speed and write speed. For this enclosure go with the WD SN850X, speed should be around 2800-2900 both read and write.
Thanks! I plan another test with a different ssd shortly. I hope to see even better results with the new ssd card although I'm very happy with what I'm getting with the Crucial card. Thanks for watching!
it's the intel controller chip in this box (which is pretty much the same as orinco and other boxes, same chip same solution) that reserves bandwidth for other function, new boxes come out with ASM2464 controller does not reserve bandwidth and can achieve higher throughput but I heard that chip has some thermo issues. will wait for more reviews before buying those.
True and I wasn't really expecting the 4800 they claimed and while I'm perfectly happy with the speed I'm getting, more speed is always better. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching. That could certainly be the problem. I also have a Crucial X10 which claimed up to 2000 MB/s but it's actually about the same speed as the X8 I got previously (about 980 MB/s). When I contacted the tech support email they replied that the ports on the Mac Studio will support Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.1. They said to get the rated speed I would have to use a USB 3.2 gen 2 port. I think this is a problem from BOTH companies. Crucial should support Thunderbolt and Apple should support ALL USB C protocols on a computer that sells for $4K.
Hi, I just have ordered a similar setup. At first, I almost ordered X10 pro SSD, but then learned it would be limited by 600mb/s on M3 MacBook Pro because of not supporting TB4 by the ssd. Then I learned about M2/TB4 setup and was tempted by crucial M2 plus (4800) over M2 (3600). I took the latter bcs TB4/case will not go over 3000 mb/s.
In the end I only used the 1.0 mm strip and it's working great. I do keep the fan funning when I'm editing video and the case stays pretty much at room temperature. Thanks for watching!
That is the speed of the thunderbolt ports and unless my math is wrong that would calculate out to a theoretical max of 5,000 Mbytes/sec but as I said I'm very happy with the speed I'm getting.
I don't think you're getting the full 32gbps (I know it says 40gbps, but these ACASIS cases are not true USB4) because the Crucial P3 Plus won't reach those speeds in an enclosure for whatever reason. Maybe due to the lack of DRAM cache? Not sure. Or maybe it's the controller. I just tested a Crucial P3 (non-plus) 4TB and got around 2250 MB/s read and write. I put in a Samsung 980 PRO 2TB and it went up to around 2750 MB/s read and write.
Thanks for the information! I have a WD card arriving on Wednesday and plan to test it in the same enclosure along with another enclosure I have coming as well. In addition I'm going to try the Crucial SSD card in the new. enclosure. Thanks for watching!
I've been seeing a lot of reviews of the Acasis enclosure lately. Having to guess which thermal pad to use is a little unnerving for me. How well do they hold up?
Thanks for watching! I just used the standard pad that came with the SSD. One major reason I chose this enclosure was the fan. The noise is not a factor and the case stays absolutely cool to the touch.
Hy im pretty sure that the usbc thunderbolt 4 ports are on the back of the ultra m1 which is a magnificent machine , the front they are only usbc 20 giga bit speed which im pretty sure of , could you do the test again this time plugging into the back champ cheers !
Hi Nick! Thanks for watching. On the Studio M1 Max (and the M2 Max) the front ports are usb c 3.1. On the Ultra version of both Studio computers all six ports are Thunderbolt 4.
I hadn't connected it to the iPhone 15 Pro Max but did when I saw your comment. I couldn't get the iPhone to mount the drive. Normally with an ssd connected it shows in the app when taking a video but this one didn't. I'll see if I can find out why. Thanks for watching!
Those test don't tell the full story. They only use 1gig. If you write files that are much larger and sustaining(50-100gig and up) You'll find speed drops significantly. The problem is your consumer based SSD drive. There's a small section that is super fast, hence the fast speed you see in your test. The large majority of your drive are super slow. Most times slower than than cheap micro SD cards. Once you use up the fast portion, the rest is krap. The ssd manufacturers pull a fast one on us and the youtuber people tricked us into thonking well get superior performance all around all the time. Those enclosures are a waste of money since your drive will never let you reach their full potential. Just get the cheap $15 and put in a large thermal pads that covers the whole drive. It should keep the unit warm instead of hot. Your speed is no worst than the expensive 40gihz units with the fan eventbo the ones with the fan will be cooler to the touch. But no performance gain in long sustaining write or read uses. The biggest limit factor after the SSD drive is your USB-A or usb-C cords and the ports. Maybe different on Mac.
Great review. Thanks Ed 😊
Thanks for the review Ed. Great job!
Thanks for watching! Sorry it took me sooooo long to reply!
Excellent work!
The performance outcomes for this device:
Solidigm P44 Pro 1TB - Read/Write speeds: 2780/2765 MB/s.
I will be posting a review of the WD 850X with a different model Acasis enclosure in a couple of days.
Love your channel, Ed, great stuff!
I'm happy you like it! I'm working on a new review comparing an inexpensive enclosure with an expensive one. Should be posted in two days. Thanks for watching!
@@ed-tech-review Oh that's excellent, thanks! I'm currently in the market for one of these, so I look forward to it, cheers!
Wow I stand corrected thank you for your reply great video , your dog looks so relaxed look forward to watching future content.
Thanks again for watching! No worries, I was actually in the Apple Store this afternoon buying some things. I spoke with one of the folks there and she wasn't clear on the chips currently in the computers. She was thinking the 16 inch MacBook Pro had an M3 Ultra chip but of course the top chip available in that computer is the M3 Max. I am waiting for the Studio with the M3 Ultra and I hope it's here by June! There are so many different specs it's hard to keep up with! I have a couple more videos coming up in the next few days. Sebastian is a happy, energetic little guy. When he crashed out on the couch for a nap I had to get the picture!
Short answer is they need wiggle room for buffer as well. You will never get a full 40gbs speed. But the right ssd you are using with this type of enclosure will determine the speed and write speed. For this enclosure go with the WD SN850X, speed should be around 2800-2900 both read and write.
Thanks! I plan another test with a different ssd shortly. I hope to see even better results with the new ssd card although I'm very happy with what I'm getting with the Crucial card. Thanks for watching!
it's the intel controller chip in this box (which is pretty much the same as orinco and other boxes, same chip same solution) that reserves bandwidth for other function, new boxes come out with ASM2464 controller does not reserve bandwidth and can achieve higher throughput but I heard that chip has some thermo issues. will wait for more reviews before buying those.
Writes are buffered before writing to memory cells, reads must access the memory cells first.
and another subscriber --> really enjoyed your video! Best wishes from GerFew (*formerly known as GerMany, he he)
Thanks for watching! I'm happy you enjoyed it!
Bottle neck of the Acasis drive is the problem. It supports upto 40 Gbps meaning 4000 Mbps.
And if a NVME external ssd claims 5000 MBPS its always 1000 to 12000 Mbps slower sad reality 😢.
True and I wasn't really expecting the 4800 they claimed and while I'm perfectly happy with the speed I'm getting, more speed is always better. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching. That could certainly be the problem. I also have a Crucial X10 which claimed up to 2000 MB/s but it's actually about the same speed as the X8 I got previously (about 980 MB/s). When I contacted the tech support email they replied that the ports on the Mac Studio will support Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.1. They said to get the rated speed I would have to use a USB 3.2 gen 2 port. I think this is a problem from BOTH companies. Crucial should support Thunderbolt and Apple should support ALL USB C protocols on a computer that sells for $4K.
Hi, I just have ordered a similar setup. At first, I almost ordered X10 pro SSD, but then learned it would be limited by 600mb/s on M3 MacBook Pro because of not supporting TB4 by the ssd. Then I learned about M2/TB4 setup and was tempted by crucial M2 plus (4800) over M2 (3600). I took the latter bcs TB4/case will not go over 3000 mb/s.
Lovely video thanks. Did you use both thermal pads or only one? If only one, which one? Thanks again.
Thanks for watching. I only used the .5 MM thermal pad.
thanks a lot sir
You're welcome and thank you for watching! I'm working on two more ssd enclosure reviews which should be uploaded in the next week.
Thx Ed!
You bet! I enjoy doing these videos and just generally learning new products!
Thanks!
My Mac Studio M1 Max 32/512
WD850 4Tb 2780/2775. TBU 405 Pro enclosure
Samsung 4Tb 990 Pro. 2818/2833 TBU 405
you remember when hdd's were wrapped in the same kind of things..
Thank you, did you use both strips in the end ? Or should I order more strips , would a 3 mm strip be better than having a sum of 1.5 mm ? Thank you.
In the end I only used the 1.0 mm strip and it's working great. I do keep the fan funning when I'm editing video and the case stays pretty much at room temperature. Thanks for watching!
Speed for external drives are limited by the thunderbolt and usb 4 40Gbps theoretical
That is the speed of the thunderbolt ports and unless my math is wrong that would calculate out to a theoretical max of 5,000 Mbytes/sec but as I said I'm very happy with the speed I'm getting.
I don't think you're getting the full 32gbps (I know it says 40gbps, but these ACASIS cases are not true USB4) because the Crucial P3 Plus won't reach those speeds in an enclosure for whatever reason. Maybe due to the lack of DRAM cache? Not sure. Or maybe it's the controller.
I just tested a Crucial P3 (non-plus) 4TB and got around 2250 MB/s read and write. I put in a Samsung 980 PRO 2TB and it went up to around 2750 MB/s read and write.
Thanks for the information! I have a WD card arriving on Wednesday and plan to test it in the same enclosure along with another enclosure I have coming as well. In addition I'm going to try the Crucial SSD card in the new. enclosure. Thanks for watching!
Nice video, but you really don't need the background music
nice video
Thanks so much! I have two more videos on this type of storage I'm working on. It just seems there aren't enough hours in the day!
@@ed-tech-review oh it seems you are overbusy.
I've been seeing a lot of reviews of the Acasis enclosure lately. Having to guess which thermal pad to use is a little unnerving for me. How well do they hold up?
Thanks for watching! I just used the standard pad that came with the SSD. One major reason I chose this enclosure was the fan. The noise is not a factor and the case stays absolutely cool to the touch.
Hy im pretty sure that the usbc thunderbolt 4 ports are on the back of the ultra m1 which is a magnificent machine , the front they are only usbc 20 giga bit speed which im pretty sure of , could you do the test again this time plugging into the back champ cheers !
Hi Nick! Thanks for watching. On the Studio M1 Max (and the M2 Max) the front ports are usb c 3.1. On the Ultra version of both Studio computers all six ports are Thunderbolt 4.
Can you suggest between Asus Rog String Arion SSD Enclosure with Samsung 990 pro SSD and SanDisk E81(2000Mbps) external SSD?
I will try to get these SSD cards for a future test but no guarantees. Thanks for watching!
What about using two external drives and combining them using software RAID? Better performance?
That could work. It will be a couple of months before I can get to it but I'll try that for a future test. Thanks for watching!
are you able to connect it to your phone and copy more than 1.5GB data without it failing?
I hadn't connected it to the iPhone 15 Pro Max but did when I saw your comment. I couldn't get the iPhone to mount the drive. Normally with an ssd connected it shows in the app when taking a video but this one didn't. I'll see if I can find out why. Thanks for watching!
Anyone knows why the speed difference is so significant?
I am puzzled why write speed is higher than read speed. I seems it would be the other way around. Thanks for watching!
@@ed-tech-reviewcould write speed be faster because of caching?
Those test don't tell the full story. They only use 1gig. If you write files that are much larger and sustaining(50-100gig and up) You'll find speed drops significantly. The problem is your consumer based SSD drive. There's a small section that is super fast, hence the fast speed you see in your test. The large majority of your drive are super slow. Most times slower than than cheap micro SD cards. Once you use up the fast portion, the rest is krap. The ssd manufacturers pull a fast one on us and the youtuber people tricked us into thonking well get superior performance all around all the time.
Those enclosures are a waste of money since your drive will never let you reach their full potential. Just get the cheap $15 and put in a large thermal pads that covers the whole drive. It should keep the unit warm instead of hot. Your speed is no worst than the expensive 40gihz units with the fan eventbo the ones with the fan will be cooler to the touch. But no performance gain in long sustaining write or read uses.
The biggest limit factor after the SSD drive is your USB-A or usb-C cords and the ports. Maybe different on Mac.