Honda CRF300L Rally and Tenere 700 Review and Comparison - Which Adventure motorcycle is best

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  • @MotorcyclesOffroad
    @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @AddyAdderson
    @AddyAdderson ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The fact that you're comparing a 300 cc bike to a 700 cc bike is a huge endorsement to the smaller bike from word one. Even more so when you know the 700 is one of the finest motorcycles available today.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Believe it or not, This comparison is something many people are torn over. Most people can only have one motorcycle and these two are highly sought after. I guarantee this video helps a lot of people out and will get a ton of views in the first few weeks alone.

    • @AddyAdderson
      @AddyAdderson ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad It's a fine video and I have no doubts many will want to see it. I was just commenting on the extraordinary nature of the comparison. I think you're making a good observation here.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OK well thank you. Like your YT icon btw its like an @ symbol with a scull? did you make it yourself or does is it from something I dont know about?

    • @berntsteinmetz8564
      @berntsteinmetz8564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hmm - but that is actually a realistic question to me !
      thx for the Vid !

    • @DYiyoMatic
      @DYiyoMatic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was actually torn between these two. Availability made me buy the 300 rally used. Thanks for this review and yes I agree with the fact that the 300 and 700 are compared is a win for the 300.

  • @martinseel2837
    @martinseel2837 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Riding offroad since nearly 40 years I bought myself a T7. And by far, the best bike i ever owned. Loved every minute riding this bike. Then i got the idea to take part at a dersert rallye in marroc. So i started preparing myself, did lots of training, managed to get faster and faster. I was really happy with myself. I was able to use the huge power of the bike offroad. It was amazing. Until i crashed, finding myself in the gravel, destroyed....just one week before the rallye starts. One year preparation for nothing. No i have to wait for a year until my body is recovered. So i have the time to watch your hole video .......and maybe go for a 300

    • @zurielsss
      @zurielsss ปีที่แล้ว

      Ouch that sucks. hope you are recovering and will get a new bike afterwards

  • @SirMo
    @SirMo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm probably in the minority, but I actually like the asymmetric headlights on the Rally. It gives Honda that quirky approachable non intimidating look. CRF300L Rally looks beautiful to me.

  • @chriscopeland1318
    @chriscopeland1318 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Honda front end weird light thing is my FAVORITE part of it. Makes it look like a weird alien. Love the front HA!

  • @victorshteinberg6042
    @victorshteinberg6042 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks, finally a review that is not kissing the ass of the brands and properly informative and comparative thanks again.
    I was wandering which of this to buy as my second bike for light off-road & touring, your vid. definitely going to the "save" folder to rewatch when the time comes.

  • @tommym6248
    @tommym6248 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have both a 250L Rally and an Africa Twin and I love having options. I've camped and done day trips with each of them and it just depends what kind of mood I'm in and how technical the terrain will be. For longer trips with more highway, I go with the Africa Twin and would use the Tenere if that's what I had.

  • @DavidSteele-q6b
    @DavidSteele-q6b ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video.. I have just swapped my t7 for a 300 rally.. previously had a 300l.. swapped that for a ktm excf 350.. in my opinion.. the 300 rally is the best option.. you can't use the extra power most of the time.. I still have the ktm.. but it has limited uses compared to the rally.. and I found the t7.. very top heavy..

  • @armyofshea7941
    @armyofshea7941 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice shout out to Itchy Boots! Enjoyed the content, keep it up.

  • @KentwoodWarrior
    @KentwoodWarrior ปีที่แล้ว +6

    More road travels T7, more off-road travels 300LR.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To a point, I also think experience has something to do with it as well.

    • @KentwoodWarrior
      @KentwoodWarrior ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad most of the fun places we ride, you’re just not gonna take an adv bike. Ya just ain’t lol. The rally however, would be doable. Power isn’t everything.

  • @FriesyRider
    @FriesyRider ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The ideal solution would be having the T7 for the road and the Honda for THE real trip. Need to check my savings...

  • @mcoop571
    @mcoop571 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent timing for me, I have the hots for a 300L but I’m going to look at a T7 tomorrow. Pretty sure I’m gonna stick with the lighter (and much more thrashable) 300L as most of my serious road miles are done on a Goldwing. Thanks Andrew for the most excellent content!

    • @keshmo12
      @keshmo12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I ride a honda 450L. Checked out a t7 and it was so heavy. I fall down too much and my 450L feels heavy to pickup on the side of a hill.

  • @tarjas
    @tarjas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude the rally is a heavy pig. My XT250 smokes it on single track and it is a heavy pig. Geez.

  • @scottlandmcc
    @scottlandmcc ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love my 300 Rally! Great video dude!

  • @dimitriskarkanis6568
    @dimitriskarkanis6568 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honda 750 transalp is up and shining
    Repeat the comparison please

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not got a chance to ride that one yet, maybe one day. I did just pick up a DR650.

    • @stryker3203
      @stryker3203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How’s the DR compare?

  • @theowerle1638
    @theowerle1638 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You own a subscriber… what a great review!
    I have a 2023 KTM 1290 Super Adv R, fully deck out… but is a very very scary beast of a bike when doing a BDR, so Im buying a 300 rally to learn more and I dont care if I drop it. In resume the 300 will make you a better rider even if you already own a top of line bike.
    Thank you man!!!

  • @stevenkirkey9796
    @stevenkirkey9796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heart says yamaha, wallet says Hondie

    • @stevenkirkey9796
      @stevenkirkey9796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Had the honda 3 weeks so far , almost hit break in
      Love it

  • @canadianfortruth
    @canadianfortruth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i pay 120 a MONTH for my T7 canada b.c.

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's exactly what I'm talking about I had a 21 Africa twin adventure sport & that bike was sketchier than shit riding it off-road!! I traded it in no problem for my 250 rally & haven't looked back since, yeah I gave up 🛣️ riding but gained a bike that I can go off-road comfortably with

  • @PeterVred
    @PeterVred ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved this review! Every bit of it. You really covered it all, for both bikes.
    I retired in 2020, and wanted a bike again, 29 years after I sold my last one, a Suzuki TS250. I read Ghost Rider, that got me interested in Adventure models, particularly the T7, but there were none to be had😢. I wound up getting a new 2019 Africa Twin for the same price though, a good deal, but a heavy monster of a bike.
    2-1/2 years, 36,000 miles, and 4 sets of tires later, I do still love the AT, but at 69, and having lost weight and muscle (long COVID), I can no longer pick it up. I only feel the most confident off roading when I have help along, which isn’t all that often, as my friends mostly all still work. So to give me something to toss around, I began looking for a CRF300L Rally, but could only find a non-ABS 300L standard. So I bought it, and have warmed up to it, and it filled the bill for my intentions at a reasonable price.
    Recently I got to test ride a used Rally, and of course, loved it, but not enough to pay $1800 difference trading in the 300l.
    Your review really means a lot to me, and it didn’t disappoint in any way. If I could do it all over again, I’d have bought the T7 first, then the Rally. I seem to often wind up with second or third best, but I’ve still had a great time getting back into biking with my two Hondas, and will continue until I am not able. See you out there!!

  • @Konski82
    @Konski82 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watched the whole video. I have an Africa twin and looking at getting a small off road. 300 Rally is the best pick from what I am seeing.

  • @white-rider
    @white-rider 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, I noticed you have a Puig windscreen on the T7, and that's what I went with too. How does the Honda's stock windscreen compare? Is it more like Puig, or like stock T7's?

  • @mikeschlup5279
    @mikeschlup5279 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Uncork the Honda, improve the suspension and maybe a 350 kit...bingo...all good...

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if any such kits will come out.

    • @212driller
      @212driller ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad if it did I would seriously consider this bike, I just need a bit more power. Hoping for that unicorn Japanese made 450cc rally style dual sport to snap into existence.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@212driller even a small bore kit would make the 300L exponentially better then the WR or the KLX300. The reason for that is the honda os stroked where the KLX was bored already. So when you go like a 20 or 30 over bore it would make something a lot more powerful. Of course you would probably need to install.bigger injectors and have a tune to match.

  • @SK69europe
    @SK69europe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome, thx! that was exactly what I needed as I'm planning on buying a CRF300 here in Thailand. thx bro

  • @charliem5332
    @charliem5332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really good review. I've the old 660z and a new 300 rally. I feel like I've the best of both worlds now. Love what the rally is opening up to me now riding wise.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many people call it heavy but for what it is the rally is actually light for its class.

  • @gregweeks4980
    @gregweeks4980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't typically make comments, but both bikes are beautiful. I just happen to think that the Honda rally is the best looking of most motorcycles I have seen these days. I also like the high fender. And I don't mind the squinty eyed headlight of the Honda.
    I have never ridden either one of these motorcycles, but I bet twisting the throttle on the Yamaha is a lot of fun.
    I even have a good time on my Honda trail 70, but I also have the DRZ E. Although here in Texas I had to install a cooling fan for the radiator. My trail text speedometer was telling me my engine was about to melt.
    Thanks for the comparison

  • @danstevens2204
    @danstevens2204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry mate the anti squat is just a story. The counter shaft is in that position because that’s how it was designed and manufactured prior to the T7. I love mine, makes the yz feel like a toy when I swap

  • @duncdunc76
    @duncdunc76 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was some good info and perspective nice job man👍 And anyone wondering why you would compare these 2 bikes before the vid probably has a better understanding of why, if they watch the full vid. So many peeps out there want power and comfort for the street riding but also want the agility and offroad performance for the dirt and ya gotta compromise somewhere. So knowing which type of riding you do most plus what you can and can't live with and or handle will help you decide between these 2 bikes, that I agree are probably being cross shopped by a lot of people.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha well Im still going to get a ton of people saying they dont know why this video exists ect. I dont care tho, the people who want to see a different perspective or who like my content will enjoy that video and that is who its for.

    • @duncdunc76
      @duncdunc76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad for sure👍

  • @Lawofhonor
    @Lawofhonor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hated my Tenere 700. Sold that thing in 6 months.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha I think I had it for 2 years, sold it to try different bikes.

  • @ray8328
    @ray8328 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I found your review very balanced and informative for anyone considering either motorcycle or any dual sport vs adventure. I’ve a CRF250L and a BMW F850GS. Everything you said is correct. Technical Off-road light is right, therefore the CRF. On road the adventure motorcycle is great. Every motorcycle is a compromise and there is no unicorn.

  • @zurielsss
    @zurielsss ปีที่แล้ว

    Only Americans / Chinese / Indians get defensive if we say their stuff / country is not perfect
    The rest of the world are mature enough to know nothing is perfect😃

  • @benedictceli7871
    @benedictceli7871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That rally would be perfect here in Philippines. Thank's for the great video.
    Ben Celi PI

  • @TerraMagnus
    @TerraMagnus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    /buys two CRF300L’s for the cost of one T7 so a friend can ride with me.

  • @alharris1508
    @alharris1508 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video, thanks.
    I would love the 300 Rally but unfortunately it's not available in 🇿🇦.
    I purchased a 2006 Gen 1 KLR 650 & it's pretty cool...

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently Honda SA are bringing in the Rally version with their 2023 allocation. I got the 300L in July, and Honda dealer said they would bring in the Rally next year due to the interest they have received.

  • @schrodingersmechanic7622
    @schrodingersmechanic7622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    300L owner here. Never had my hands on a T7 but my impression is that the T7 is geared more towards experienced dirt riders. My 300 is powerful enough to get through anything in my way while remaining very forgiving and being light enough to be tossable. I commented to a friend while it was parked that if it fell over I'd be more upset about my helmet sitting on the seat falling than the bike itself. It's geared well for it's power, acceleration is good and it retains enough power in 6th gear to run most highway speed limits. Running wide open I got about 45mpg on the highway at 75mph and 65 mpg when running a more reasonable 60mph. The extended service intervals are what sold me over larger dirt oriented bikes.

  • @williamhudson3208
    @williamhudson3208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking to purchase next year. I think you sum up well. Still don’t know what to buy but very close to the Honda. Happy Christmas.

  • @CraigSmith568
    @CraigSmith568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This if a fair comparison. Personally I would choose the Yamaha since I ride more on-road and it would do any off-roading I do. I will say that fuel injection and a six speed over a carb and five speed doesn't make a real difference to me. I have both and I just don't think one makes enough difference to sway my decision when choosing a bike. Very few carbureted bikes made today anyway. I always thought there wasn't anything wrong with a petcock and having a reserve, but without that I do think a low fuel light is nice. A gear indicator really doesn't matter much to me either. If I try to shift and it doesn't go into another gear I know I'm in either low or high gear. One feature I do like is that the bike settings stay where you set them when you turn to bike off and on. Once I set up the bike I usually never change it again. It's a real pain to have to turn off ABS or traction control every time you shut the bike off. Nice video.

  • @lexios.s8151
    @lexios.s8151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WATCHED Until the end Andrew. Amazing and very helpful!!! Thank you 💚🙏🙏🙏

  • @MuscleBandit
    @MuscleBandit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both great bikes. I kinda prefer the little Honda due to it's affordability and low maintenance character as well as other benefits you listed. I would probably go with the Tenere' though, due to my use mostly being on road and also Ryan F9 did an amazing review which sold me on it and caused some bias!!
    Great vid as always buddy, I enjoyed every second. Cheers from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @marcochavanne
    @marcochavanne ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want both ♥

  • @sctenz
    @sctenz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! My brother in law has the CRF300 Rally, and it's a really nice bike. But being over 250 lbs, I think my next bike is the T7 or Tuareg.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know you didn't ask for it but if you want my advice, the only bike I think can be the sweet spot is the KTM690 ENDURO. Great power, light, great service intervals.

  • @josephdavis823
    @josephdavis823 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cant find the headlight youre looking to upgrade to. Do you have a link for it?

  • @retiredbiker
    @retiredbiker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and loved the intro. Been riding for 50+ years and I’m currently on a HD Pan America. Started in the dirt as a kid and went to the street as an adult and then the big barkaloungers as an old man. The Harley came out with their adventure bike and now I’m back in the dirt. And loving it. I’m giving the 300 rally some serious thought as a second bike just because the big adv bike doesn’t like the sand and mud that’s so prominent here in Florida. It does it, don’t get me wrong, but it’s a lot of bike to pick back up.

  • @bullseyeprecision
    @bullseyeprecision ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best informative videos I’ve seen. Thanks for your input👍

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I am happy you found the video useful. I put a ton of time into it.

  • @victorresendez2652
    @victorresendez2652 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good review, keep up the reviews, rides, mod suggestions etc… I love bikes and having someone like you, take the time, effort, videoing splicing editing etc… says a lot ❤, having options ( multiple bikes ) is the best !

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment, and in time I will keep them coming.

  • @MrBigPipesYT
    @MrBigPipesYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good honest review. For the T7. Aftermarket exhaust + Tail Tidy can save weight gained from added crash bars. Catalytic converter delete saves even more. Saving ~16lbs should be doable. The weight and high center of gravity are my biggest gripes for the T7. The Tuareg 660 improves on this. I couldn't find a Tuareg 660 locally new or used when I was in the market and they were out of my price range compared to the T7.
    T7 takes it in looks and the sound is among my personal all-time favorites. The T7 sounds absolutely wicked which begs to be blipped and ripped. The T7 is a respectable street bike with sleeper like sound and acceleration. It adds to the fun factor. The higher curb weight of the T7 is an advantage for highway in terms of stability/comfort and for a street bike, the weight is on the lower end of the spectrum. The extra power of the T7 is a huge benefit on the street over the CRD300L.
    In terms of looks. The T7 does a great job of encapsulating a unique aggressive modern/futuristic mix of street and Dakar without going full transformer which I was never a fan of. It's styled along the lines of modern hypercars or an aggressive rally converted Tesla. For a Honda the CRF300L is a bit more aggressive, but I find it a bit safe/boring as is tradition for Honda. Doesn't look bad by any means, but it's not as attractive to me compared to the T7.
    For me it would come down to price or weight. For a newer rider or someone not needing the extra power. I'd go for the CRF300L. I'd get the CRF300l over a KLR650 but would get a T7 over a KLR650 and pretty much everything besides a Tuareg 660. Anything more than that is out of my price range.
    The T7 is nearly twice the price of the Honda. It's less bike but it's better value compared to the T7. However the T7 is right behind it in value. In terms of practicality the CRF300L is going to be a more useful all around tool but the added highway comfort of the T7 makes up for it. But the T7 is an absolute beast of a machine and the added performance is a great value on the T7.
    I'd like to see how the T7 stacks up to the TransAlp. I suspect it would be similar to the T7 vs CRF300L comparison, coming down to use case.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      "I suspect it would be similar to the T7 vs CRF300L comparison" I did this comparison as well a year earlier. I have never had the chance to rude the Tuareg yet.

  • @streddaz
    @streddaz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I'm leaning towards a Tenere 700 as I've had dirt bikes in the past so something that is more capable on the road would be nice but still able to go poking around up gravel roads that would be beyond a road bike.

  • @frankleal1557
    @frankleal1557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, thank you.

  • @AlpineTreeCare
    @AlpineTreeCare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm now wondering whether I should buy a CRF300 Rally or GASGAS ES700, KTM 690 Enduro R or 701? All of which weigh the same as the Honda but have the power of the Yamaha! Any thoughts? Thanks for a great review it certainly helped me to get this far.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      So I guess you are saying price is not an issue? What do you plan to do with the bike?

    • @AlpineTreeCare
      @AlpineTreeCare ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad Price does come into it but it's not my main criteria. I have a large 200kg+ adventure bike which I plan on keeping. However, I do want to do more off road (techy single track and rock gardens) which due to my skill level isn't suited to 200kg. My problem is that I have to do many tarmac miles to get to trails hence the larger displacement bikes (690 et.al) are more appealing. However, I actually wonder whether the Honda would be a better bike Off road due to its engine characteristics especially when going slow! I like slow tractoring progress in tricky conditions.The larger bikes have lots of torque but high in the revs which I don't think will suit my style and terrain ( I'm guessing).

  • @mdlcasi2000
    @mdlcasi2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you need to make content but - comparing a 300 w a 700? that is so ridicules.. compare it w a 250 to maybe even a 450

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not about needing to make content its about making content for my viewers. You may thing it is ridicules but if you look at the comments you will see a ton of people thanking me for the video saying their choice is between these particular 2 bikes side to side.

  • @fcalin21
    @fcalin21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Overhyped brands both of them. Kove and Zontes will mop the floor with the known brands. We need to be honest with ourselves.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂 thank you for posting a comment to give me a good laugh today!

  • @SmokinZen
    @SmokinZen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    T7 and KLX300 best combo

  • @Bscott-390
    @Bscott-390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Very helpful. I gotta find me a Rally. Thanks for your work.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad you liked it! Thanks for taking the time to comment.

  • @nedwillis6702
    @nedwillis6702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazingly informative video!

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, and thank you for taking the time to watch/comment.

  • @TWTourist
    @TWTourist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m also looking at the 300 rally as a play bike. And to increase my off road skills. I have a ATASESDCT for adventure touring and a C14 for sport touring.

  • @BoyFindsTako
    @BoyFindsTako 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison, but I had to own both to see for myself. I love duel sports, Between my brother and I, we have the T7, KLR650, DRZ400S, CRF300L, CRF250L, KLX250, KLX230. I enjoy all of them, the two bikes that stand out after riding them are the T7 and the CRF300L, they both show what gear your in, both have a gas gauge, love the T7 power, and how adjustable the suspension is in the T7. The conclusion riding all of these Moto’s is you need a T7 and a CRF300L. They are completely different but you need both for different reasons.

  • @dustindewind3210
    @dustindewind3210 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6'2" and 230lbs,,,only one choice for me,,,picked it up 3 weeks ago 👍💝

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you like it so far?

    • @michaelvass1970
      @michaelvass1970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t talk in cryptic. What was your choice

    • @dustindewind3210
      @dustindewind3210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad ,,love it, one of those bikes you have to look back at as you walk away from. The one you make excuses to take “just one more quick ride “

    • @matts7975
      @matts7975 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Six feet, 220 lbs on my Rally. I pass big guys standing beside their bigs bikes laying on the ground all the time.

  • @dimitriosthalassinos945
    @dimitriosthalassinos945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, keep them coming.
    I just purchased my 2022 rally and can't wait to ride it. 🍻

  • @Streamlines
    @Streamlines 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:35 why is this specifically mentioned? As far as I understand this was specifically mentioned by Yamaha in their marketing material, but it's, as far as I can see, also just a healthy frame geometry design that is applied in most motorcycles, even on the CRF 300 Rally

  • @carlbayard8729
    @carlbayard8729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great. review Andrew truly enjoyed the ride along

  • @Frakaphoto
    @Frakaphoto ปีที่แล้ว

    very informative. as I break my L16 vertebra Trying to put on a GS1250. honda 300 will make it. Husky 701 is way too expensive to run with valve check

  • @joed899
    @joed899 ปีที่แล้ว

    I currently ride a WR450 and CBR1000rr fireblade. I'm looking to get rid of both as I've ridden the fireblade for 95,000 km and I just really don't like the WR. Looking at videos like this where the tenere is $10,000 US kills me as in australia it's $20,000. That makes it almost cheaper to buy from america and ship it out. I'm really wanting a Tenere as I do a heap of highway trips (600 km a week) but still want to go on mini adventures. So thanks for the insight. I was looking a t the Africa twin but I think the Tenere might be the go.

  • @spamyak
    @spamyak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a beginner on a budget about 50 miles from the nearest decent trail. Should I start with a used DR650 or stretch my budget to a CRF300L Rally?

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where is you location? Height and weight?

    • @spamyak
      @spamyak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad 5'10 180lb in the Atlanta area. Last bike was a CRF100 when I was a kid.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spamyak I think the rally is the better choice for you. You will love the fuel injection, the gear indicator, the fuel indicator, the long range, and the light clutch pull mixed with the slipper clutch will protect you from aggressive down shifts.

  • @canadianfortruth
    @canadianfortruth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    went from a 230 sm honda 2003 to cb500x 2020 to a 2022 Tenere 700 in 2 years !2020 summer was my first year riding .just love the T7

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats awesome! well welcome to the world of riding.

  • @killepitsch9726
    @killepitsch9726 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    550 ECU is illegal in Europe.

  • @tomkruger3496
    @tomkruger3496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those rally towers are really cool, but surprisingly expensive.

  • @billcotton1551
    @billcotton1551 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review and comparison! That sure looks like the Pine Barrens in this video.

  • @augustbrante8117
    @augustbrante8117 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Medellin Colombia and the mot scene here is crazy! For the city riding and this is the first real city I have lived in. The population is about the same as Phoenix AZ but in 10% or 15% of the footprint. So highrises everywhere you look. For city riding, I have a Yammie Bolt 950 w/hines pipe so people know I'm there. Here going the wrong way on a one-way street or riding up on the sidewalk is the norm. It's actually a blast once you get used to it. There's an ex-pat riding group I belong to that takes long rides and daily rides to pueblos throughout Colombia. Bcs my bike is street-oriented I just go on the hwy based ones. However, the hwys here are NOT even close to US hwys. Potholes and landslides are everywhere and in the pueblo to control speed they have speed bumps that vary in size. One of the Guys had the rally equivalent and he rode with ease on our last ride. I ended up getting into a fairly bad accident on my bike (labor is super cheap here and my bike is going to cost me $1,000 USD to fix) my ribs on the other hand will take a few more weeks to get better! Sorry for the long story. I need to get myself an off-road bike and looking at both the Rally and Yammy 250 XT. Already have a big bike so not going to even consider the Tenere. Thanks for vid!!!

  • @SethJayson
    @SethJayson ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun comp. Rally's on order, but I am starting think it won't show up this year. Really want the smaller, lighter bike, but with the range and windscreen. Outside of slower rural roads, I don't anticipate doing any of the more traily-stuff on it, just gravel, non-crazy double and single track. If I can't get the rally before summer riding season -- leaning toward the Tuareg. Not really interested in the little KTM.

  • @brandonwoodruff7248
    @brandonwoodruff7248 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I ever trade/sell my WR250R I might actually just get the 300-Rally and remove/sell the fenders, since it looks so good without them.

  • @jeffreypackham5761
    @jeffreypackham5761 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did watch your vid to the end. You forgot to mention the terrible suspension on the Honda . Apart from that, a great video well worth watching. 😊

  • @backontwowheels9469
    @backontwowheels9469 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that the new 300 rally is taller than the Tenere.
    In 2020 when i was looking to get back onto a bike after a 37 year lay-off my dream was the Tenere. As soon as there was one in the nearest Yamaha dealer I was up there to sit on it and that’s where the dream bubble was burst, at 5’6” I could barely touch the tips of my toes, ballerina style on the ground.
    After the disappointment I was looking for another option and the CRF 250 rally was on a deal so brought one over the phone while working in Holland, which was then delivered when back in the UK at the start of covid, it was tall but there was enough sag for me to get the balls of my feet down.
    After running it in, i took it back out to Holland and loved going out on it at the weekends, well i did for a month because it was stolen.
    So now I looked for a replacement, after a 6 hour ride on the CRF to Holland I soon realised that the seat was not ideal for long distance, so I ended up buying a Triumph Tiger900 Rally Pro (I know I could have picked a shorter version GT or even the GT low but hey, you have seen how cool the Rally Pro looks right!!
    So that was October 2020 and I took it out into Europe where I was working making 800+ mile journeys on numerous occasions. The Rally Pro is ideal for mile crunching and if you have the skill set it is a demon off road too (I don’t have the skill set)
    Most of my time was spent on the road 99.9%, so on 1st March I pick up a new bike, one that I can flat foot, a Triumph Speedmaster Chrome edition.
    I know its not adventure, but i hardly went off road when i had one.
    I will just have to get myself a small capacity dual sport too, to go off road with.
    Oh and I am sixty so hey I need to be careful yeah!
    All bikes are great and hey who knows I may get some knobbly tyres on the speedmaster yet.

  • @LuckyNikitaBoba
    @LuckyNikitaBoba 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Give me that heart!

  • @bchdds
    @bchdds ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a t7 thinking I was going to off-road with it, sold it a month later. It's very top heavy, feels heavier than an africa twin dct even though it's much lighter. It lays completely flat when on it's side which makes it difficult to pick up. It's great for gravel roads but you need to be an advanced rider to make it off road.

  • @BeyondWrittenWords
    @BeyondWrittenWords ปีที่แล้ว

    300L is much lighter, consumes much less fuel, goes into tight places as smaller bike. Heavy big bikes suck in real life off roading, they get stuck etc etc

  • @thomasniesar1898
    @thomasniesar1898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review. I’m looking to downsize from my KTM 790 adventure to a dual sport and having a hard time making a decision - the drz400 and crf300 rally are top of my list. (I’m just kind of looking for a replacement for my old XT 500. ) you really hit all the right notes and questions I have. Thank you!

  • @alinn.4341
    @alinn.4341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, I've ridden the T7 and I have a 300L. WIth a rear shock the 300L can be fun offroad. The T7 just feels way too heavy for anything more than some gravel road.

  • @dalereed8493
    @dalereed8493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I pretty well much always watch the video from beginning to end fully but one little bug bear is regarding the CRF 300 Raleigh notifications you mentioned to really open the bike up and transformer would be great to see a video before and after showing the evidence like acceleration to a certain speed dyno test power of miles per gallon results and anything else that would be educational about the comparison before and after the big free upgrades

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have something like that coming. Where I testing a stock road pull from 10mph to 60mph 4 times and a 40 to 70 4 times. Now with the upgrades I will do it again and see the difference.

    • @dalereed8493
      @dalereed8493 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad awesome Look forward to it as you could just prepare to somebodys stock version 👌👌

  • @terrymeyer4248
    @terrymeyer4248 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it really comes down to what you want to do on a motorcycle. Both of these bikes are very capable and worth the price. I own the crf300l myself, but see the advantages of either of these bikes. I do shorter rides and like the lightness of the 300 to whip around off road trails. The fuel mileage is great to. Love the Channel!

  • @Mikt25
    @Mikt25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My CRF300L Rally was looking at me like: o_0

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha it does that. I was really thinking of going for a rally tower to change the looks a bit.

  • @RobWilliamson-gc9jw
    @RobWilliamson-gc9jw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched the entire video!! It is great and I am torn on which bike to get!

  • @atrenthillman
    @atrenthillman ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched the end and I think I will go with the Honda 300 rally. Thanks again. When you talk about all the other bikes you have / own. Let's me know that you are not just trying to sale one over the other. I have found a rally close by my home town. Hopefully I can get it when I get home. In five more weeks. 🤞🙏

  • @thumpersquid
    @thumpersquid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I always watch your entire video. I'm a big dual sport fan and a fan of your channel. Ride on brother!

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and thanks for all the support. I was over at your channel a little while ago and saw all you videos were gone?

    • @thumpersquid
      @thumpersquid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad Yes. I might upload some of them again after some editing and maybe make more content in the future. I just felt my videos were bad and that I can do better. Embarrassed I guess.

  • @daveduncan798
    @daveduncan798 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion, neither of these are off road bikes, I've ridden both and feel they are typical dual purpose bikes, one heavy and one manageable. .....neither is good off road and neither is that good on road, although they are better on road where I think they are safer.

  • @jamesmealing5753
    @jamesmealing5753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whole thing😊

  • @ColoradoCox
    @ColoradoCox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The comparison is NO COMPARISON.

  • @CHP26
    @CHP26 ปีที่แล้ว

    ride the CRF300 and the Africa twin Adv dct! the crf 300 is much better offroad and much easier to drive! that's why the Africa twin onroad is the goodfather of touring bikes! it can also be used off-road, built like the tenere! but for a "non" pro they are just way too heavy in the field. Lg CHP#26

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the Tenere is more so built for offroad then AT but yea they are big.

  • @hookinwithheine
    @hookinwithheine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick brotha

  • @kostasrestas
    @kostasrestas ปีที่แล้ว

    At aesthetics senction i see that lowered the tenere too much..isnt fair..

  • @hickokaviation2249
    @hickokaviation2249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video! Looks like fun having both of those.

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I am super lucky. I also have a Street legal KDX200 2 stroke.

  • @kanapkazpasztetem
    @kanapkazpasztetem ปีที่แล้ว

    as for the styling, I actually the offset lights on the Honda - they look kinda goofy but fun while these on Tenere are not that "eye catching"

  • @jonny530
    @jonny530 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @kevinhill818
    @kevinhill818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and comparison Andrew! I have one of the heavier weight "ADV" bikes for road/gravel touring but looking to drop the pounds for something that makes more backcountry sense. Time to book some test rides on the CRF and T7 I think. Have a fab week and thanks again :)

  • @Mike.93
    @Mike.93 ปีที่แล้ว

    yamaha tenere better

  • @justingoodger5383
    @justingoodger5383 ปีที่แล้ว

    What bike would you take on the Full Trans American trail? Planning a solo trip next year. Including this bike or others, including KTM 890,690. Thankyou in advance.(FJR Last Bike).

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  ปีที่แล้ว

      If I was doing a long trail I would take the 300L rally.
      th-cam.com/video/mWBgLCSLQnk/w-d-xo.html

  • @loomspace
    @loomspace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What type of accent does this guy have? Great review. 👍

    • @MotorcyclesOffroad
      @MotorcyclesOffroad  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@loomspace try and guess? Tho I didnt think I had one lol

    • @loomspace
      @loomspace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotorcyclesOffroad North Carolina by way of Philadelphia? 😆🤷‍♂️

  • @glennrowe2961
    @glennrowe2961 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had my Tenere for 18 months now, and can’t argue with any of this 👍

  • @xpllmmff
    @xpllmmff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    which of two bikes do you feel more approachable for adv newbies (for those who do wish to step into and take the challenge of some hard trails) CRF300L rally or KLR650 (they are similar in horsepower and price)

    • @TheWrigle
      @TheWrigle ปีที่แล้ว

      Crf all day. I had a klr, then switched to a t7. The t7 is better than the klr is off road. The klr has the low power of the crf, and the high weight of the t7. Less suspension travel or ground clearance than either. Really the worst of both. If I were to do it again I would start on a crf 300l rally to build up some skill before picking up the t7. In the end I may end up owning both.

  • @mikehuffaker3593
    @mikehuffaker3593 ปีที่แล้ว

    At first I thought it wouldn’t be a good comparison with a 300 and a 700 but it really was. I’ve always wanted one of these Hondas, they seem like great bikes, but I do a lot of highway miles. Currently I’m riding a Moto Guzzi Stelvio. Great bike for my needs, but can be heavy in town. But the weight really helps on the highway at high speeds.
    Sorry for the rambling. Good video all the way through.

  • @josephgeorgeejr7039
    @josephgeorgeejr7039 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually really like the factory headlight on the honda!!