Honda CRF300L rally review, Is it as good as they say?
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Honda CRF300 rally review, Is it as good as they say?
Honda CRF300 Rally: Where the dirt ends and road begins, the CRF300L Rally is waiting to bring adventure bike capability to your everyday commute. The nimble design and plentiful low-end power combine with smart features for an ideal transportation solution through busy streets and bumpy trails. The bodywork is inspired by Dakar Rally racebikes, which means it looks as good as it performs. The tall windscreen provides solid protection against the elements. And the long motocross-style seat gives you all-day comfort and allows you to easily move around in the saddle. If you have a dual sport that’s even lighter and more affordable in mind, make sure you check out our honda CRF300L.
Honda CRF300L:
Balance is the key when riding any motorcycle. And we’re not talking about just balancing on two wheels: We’re talking about the balance between size, weight, power and handling that makes some bikes great-like the new Honda CRF300L. Based on our previous CRF250L, for 2021, it gets a larger engine with more torque and a whole host of chassis and suspension refinements. What you end up with is one of the best-balanced bikes ever for on- and off-road use. Perfect for weekend trail rides, it’s also among the best choices ever for commuting or urban transportation. And if you’re looking for a version with a windscreen and Dakar-inspired bodywork for a little more weather protection, make sure you check out our new CRF300L Rally.
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After watching Noraly beat the bejeebies out of her 300 Rally from the bottom of the world all the way to the top I bit the bullet and bought a brand new one. I’m 70 years old, 6’1”, 215 lbs and this bike is absolutely the best bike I’ve ever owned. (And I’ve owed many from Honda 90s to Vintage Indian Chief, Cx500, etc etc etc) It carries my weight easily, maintains 80 mph on the interstate when I need it too and gives a comfortable ride on the old logging and other back roads I like to ride. My bike is bone stock and it’s going to stay that way other than maybe a change in tire and possibly chain and sprocket setup when mine are worn out.
Everyone I run into out on the road admires my Rally to the point of envy….even Harley riders. The 78-80 mpg is so amazing….and with the fuel gauge no more fuel anxiety!!!. Would I recommend you buy one? Not a chance, you go buy whatever suits your needs. But my Rally fits mine perfectly and could well be the last bike I ever buy , I have absolutely zero buyers remorse, only pure satisfaction 😎😎😎
Good for you! I’m 63 year old, 5’ 10” on a good day and around 200 lbs and climbing (I’m trying to slow that down). Good to hear of your experience! I have been on a waiting list for several months and still waiting, but hearing of your highway experience gives me confidence that it can handle my load and camping equipment!
Thank you for sharing!
@@ggs0605 I contacted every Honda dealer for a 300 mile radius assuring each dealer that I had cash in hand and would immediately travel the distance as soon as I was contacted saying one one available. About 10 or 12 days later Sheridan Motor sports called and said they had one on the floor and ready to go. I phoned them with credit card in hand, put $500.00 down agreeing I’d be there within 2 hours. That afternoon I was home with my brand new 300 Rally.
My brother has the 250Rally . He weighs in at about 320 lbs and his bike carries him just fine with stock suspension . On a long hard highway climb I’ll pass him but he’ll still maintain 50 mph on the steep climb. I was riding his 250 Rally down in Yuma last winter and we road for hours between 75-80 mph with no problem. ( he was riding his 1800 Gold Wing). That trip was a real inspiration to buy my 300 Rally. No regrets at all. 😎
Well..6’-2”…185lbs. Left it stock…throw on bags..rock and roll. Fuck, I carry a cot at wawona 6 person tent! I glams off my bike! Stock bike with all my shit did awesome in Moab.
Just what I wanted to hear. 73 all kinds on off drags cruiser... glad you posted. 195# 5'11" Would it ride iwth my wife 5'6" 128# ?? thx
@@kong3 I don’t do 2 up anymore on any bike. I take my own risks by myself. But each to their own.
I bought a Rally 2 months ago after a trip with my 1200GS in Spain. On my trips I like to get on unfamiliar tracks and discover new routes but it has the drawback that you can get to a point where a GS can't keep up or you drop it too many times. I have even had to sleep next to the bike due to exhaustion after lifting it too many times. With the Rally that fear disappears, you dare more and at the same time you enjoy enormously reaching isolated places where there is no possible help if problems arise. I think that at 60 years old I have found the ideal combination for the adventure trips I like: a GS and a Rally ... depending on how I wake up in the morning.
I have a 300 rally also. I've done some engine mods, tires and tubliss system. But the best so far is the rally raid level 2 suspension kit front and rear. It has made an incredible difference. The bike can handle more weight for camping and higher speeds off road. It's kind of expensive, but makes this bike so much better. It's getting closer to the perfect all-rounder light adventure bike a lot of us want.
I bought a Rally back in July 22. I am brand new to motorcycles but plan on driving this bike from Oregon to Patagonia in February. (An Itchy Boots in Reverse). I also plan on building a TH-cam channel too as I have a passion for filmmaking and travel.
As a beginner I find this bike fits my needs. I have rode some of my friends bikes (SWM 500 / DR650) and I do envy the power to weight ratio on those bikes. But all in all I think this motorcycle is highly capable and well suited for going wherever you want to go.
I loaded up the bike with gear and took it on the sand dunes and definitely bottomed out hard when trying to climb the steep inclines of the dunes at speed. But I was still able to keep up with my friends. And their bikes were the limiting factors for fuel range at the end of the day. I plan to upgrade the suspension to hold my gear and upgrade the air filter.l to make it easier to clean.
So far I love this bike and this channel. I really appreciate the perspectives covered here and I find it logical and relevant for me. Thank you for putting in the time to help build this community, your videos are great!
I also have the 91 stock improved setup from 550 performance and I feel a noticeable difference in the bike. I plan on taking the stock ECU on my trip as a spare just in case if I run into bad fuel. But overall I recommend the 91 stock improved upgrade for the price.
@Jacob Lum well Jacob, I am excited for you! If you're gonna do that long of a ride I would check out rally raid products in the UK. They have been great to work with. I would love to follow your trip. Let me know if I can help further. Take care
Sounds amazing, Cant wait to get my suspension installed. I xrayed it the other day for fun lmao
Agreed. Have Tubeliss as well as Rally Raid Level 2 and its a game changer Offroad, and even on road the suspension makes a massive difference in terms of control and comfort.
What do you weigh and what spring do you get?
I have the Rally. I was amazed and surprised at just how good the soft suspension is............Granted I do not do hard core off roading but handles single track and rough stuff very well. I have learned to stand up where I think the suspension will bottom out. So no complaints whatsoever from me. It is a great bike. Good independent review without the BS.
Thank you for your input. I agree 100%
I feel like after riding it with how aggressive of a rider I am being on enduro bikes and sportbikes racing motocross etc my entire life the suspension was Wayy too soft I was blasting through trails on my buddies and I rode it pretty hard good bike just wasn’t for me ended up getting a ktm exc 500
I've had the Rally for a few months now, with abt 3500 miles on it. I got it as an ultralight ADV, and not as a heavier dirt bike. The extra tank capacity was the clincher for me, over the regular 300L, but I like the wind protection also, and the fact that the dash is farther out in front. I just don't understand the extra faring underneath. I got it with the ABS, which I like for extended rides on windy gravel roads and on fire cuts in the mountains. I ordered it with the luggage rack and the 12V power socket, then added a tank bag and a top box for luggage, and a set of Acerbis handguards. Want to get the Moskow Moto soft luggage setup in the spring.
I bought it mainly for trips in the Idaho mountains lasting a few days or so, and I think it hits all the desirable points for that role, just as you said. I also find myself using it for commuting, up to 65 MPH, because of its superior gas mileage. AND it burns regular gas. My heavy cruiser gets only 40 MPG and uses only premium, whereas the Rally gets me 60 to 75 MPG and uses regular.
The suspension doesn't bother me, but then I'm not the type of rider whose catching a lot of air, nor pushing hard in the really technical stuff.
I didn't think I'd really want ABS, but I wanted to try it. Now I use the ABS for what the sports car drivers refer to as "threshold braking", but on gravel roads. ABS does it better than your human limitations would allow, and I've come to like using it (occasionally) in that way when pushing the limits on gravel.
So as I was riding home today, I passed a neighbor in his 4 x 4, canopied pickup, towing a trailer, and on the trailer was his Honda 90 Trail bike. And I immediately saw that THAT is why I bought the 300L Rally. He had to have his "mothership" (pickup and trailer) to get his trail bike to the trails. But all I have to do is hop on my trail bike, ride it on the highways to the trail, and without stopping just go ahead into the trails. WAY easier and WAY simpler, WAY faster, WAY less expensive, and I have everything with me during an overnighter in the mountains, and don't have to worry about my pickup and trailer sitting out, unattended someplace in the woods far away from me.
MAN, that's a huge difference, which I can see that a LOT of people still do not quite appreciate, or haven't thought through when choosing a bike. When more people catch on to the "No Mothership Needed, and You Can Still Hit the Single-Track" concept, then this class of bike will be selling like popcorn. No ramps, no loading and unloading, no tying down and untying, yadda yadda yadda, just for a ride on the mountains, AND 60 to 75 MPG!, with a bike that's vastly lighter than a typical ADV bike, so you know you can pick it up when you inevitably drop it. AND I know a guy who'd love to come riding into the mountains with my friend and me, but since he has a 1200 GS he doesn't want to risk dropping it. And THAT, ladies and gents, is why the CRF 300L Rally, or some other "dual sport with tank range", or "ultralight ADV". It can go where ever the big GS can go, but the big GS can NOT go everywhere the Rally can go, at least not so confidently.
I'm 64 years old, but still really enjoy my heavier bike (Vulcan 1600)(730 lbs), so long as I'm not wanting to get into the mountain fire and logging roads with it. The older guys I know who have problems with heavier bikes are the ones who never really learned to control the bike at low speeds, and therefore have a harder time balancing it on launch or coming to a stop. Strength is NOT required to control even the heaviest bike, but good balance and a thorough understanding of low speed control are very much required. For one thing, you're counter-steering all the time, at all speeds, right down to the moment of stopping, but most people don't understand how that could be, so they get it wrong, and can't really control the bike without struggling and occasionally dropping it. So after having bad habits, they get older and then feel that their strength is no longer enough to make up for those bad habits they've been riding with for 40 years. I see it in several of the Harley guys I ride with. Also, people who are on the typical cocktail of prescription meds are probably not going to have their full sense of balance that they'd normally have. So stay healthy, and stay away from the drug-pushers (doctors)!
I agree with you for sure. I got back into ridding at 61 years old after a 35 year break and I am now 71 years old and Ridding a CRF300L Rally.
Great video. I am short, 5’ 6”, 140 pounds and a new rider and am considering a 300 L or Rally. I am a little concerned it will be tall for me until I learn more skills. I live in Colorado and plan to ride Jeep trails in the mountains - challenging, steep rocky trails, and desert trails in Utah. Another option for me would be an XT250. Either one I’d probably buy used rather than new.
Question..when is your next book coming out..lmao!!😂
Picking up my grandson 2024 CRF110F for Christmas. I accidentally 😂 bought myself a 300L Rally! Pick them up in December. Can’t wait and I’m a new subscriber. Let’s Go!
Hi Andrew, I've watched a number of your videos and appreciate them. I was amused at a couple of things in your review of the Honda CRF300L Rally. You referred to "older guys at 60". I was one of the first in the west to be lucky enough to get one of the plain CRF300L's and I am 71. I had dirt bikes around much of my life. I kept a half dozen around when my son was growing up (I had a little moto cross track in my yard. My yard is 20 acres). I lost my wife to cancer 14 years ago and my son moved off to college the next. I got rid of all the dirt bikes and got a Harley Softail Heritage Classic. I love that bike but started missing the dirt a couple of years ago. When I was looking for what would be best for me I came up with the Honda CRF250L. Of course that was when they changed to the CRF300L and I wanted new. I did a lot of thinking about the rally vs the L. and feel I have my Harley for t he longer road trips and live in the mountains of the northeastern tip of California so I wanted something for the dirt, trails, single track, camping in the mountains etc. After watching reviews such as yours, please like Itchy Boots, etc I feel I did pick the best for me. I feel the CRF300L has all the power I need. Regarding the suspension, I weigh about 150 and feel the stock suspension is find for me (and I do ride on some challenging terrain). I do think I picked a perfect bike for me to do most anything I want in the mountains and I can legally ride it on the road to trails when needed. I really love my CRF300L. Thanks again for your youtube videos
Owner opinion: I changed the front and rear suspension to K-tech ( I am 6'2" 265lbs) great upgrade worth it. It doesn't bottom out. I have zero issues with the weight of the bike. It feel light to me. The 550 ecu and exhaust will also improve performance. If you are looking for a bike to have fun riding that reliable this bike is for you. If you are looking for a super fast bike this might not be for you.
I just got a Rally a month ago as my first bike and it's fantastic. I'm 6'1 and about 195. I'm absolutely loving the fuel efficiency, range, and smoothness of the Rally. I had read that the headlight was better than the stock 300L headlight, and like you said, it definitely provides excellent visibility at night. I'm going to stick with the stock tires since I'm mainly commuting on it right now, but when it's time for new rubber, I plan on trying the IRC Battle Rally TR8's.
Just completed a 32 day 7,500K trip in Thailand with a friend on a CRF250L and he borrowed my CRF300 Rally. Some off road, less travelled roads and a blast on these bikes. I also have a NC750X DCT with only 264,000 Kilometres but I'm loving the CRF more and more. Great Video. I recently travelled to Laos as well on my CRF250L Solo , I think my videos on my channel show exactly why this bike is so practical.
After watching ITCHYBOOTS put 49000 kilometers on her bike, It was surprisingly reliable. the CRF300 Rallye had the longest service interval which appealed to Noraly considering the Brazil to Patagonia to Alaska run. Now, I'm just to big for the bike. I'm 6'6"285. So I weigh more than her and her kit. For what she did 200lbs for person and kit is all I'd consider possible.
But she upgraded the suspension and the output sprocket shaft has worn out.
And her bike is running way too lean.
@@DigiMannen And when was that diagnosed? in CA for sys update and Alaska on the lean plug. Are you an experienced rider? I couldn't imagine NOT updating my suspension on ANY bike that I'd ride for thousands of miles. If you saw the reason she bought the CRF300 vs. the 450... and there is a video about that. She's 40k into the ride and was looking for parts and service all along the route. It's a rare bike that doesn't need tweeking out of the box.
@@muddypawsadventurer7775 I have been riding bikes for 40 years, no suspension upgrades on my KTM bikes I have owned since 2003.
Not on the BMW's before that.
And I would say I ride my bikes pretty hard and my tires seem to wear really fast.
It has been mainly Adventure type rides for the last 20 years.
@@DigiMannen then you must have a hard on about Honda's being a KTM rider.... I don't understand your bitch... Like I said I'm 6'6" and 285... There's not a bike that I ride that doesn't need tweeking.
@@muddypawsadventurer7775 I have owned a few Hondas, but that was 2-stroke MX bikes CR250R's.
I bought my wife a KTM 390 Adventure after realizing the stock suspension was awful on the CRF300L.
And I can say that I can run the KTM way faster on gravel roads before the suspension gets weird, not like the CRF, which felt like riding a pogo stick or a small undertone moped.
Honda could have made the CRF so much better by making the rear shock and fork to it easy to just swap the springs.
Great video! I have had a number of bikes in my motorcycle riding so I am not new at this. I had a 250L and sold it and really missed it but I moved on. My last "big" bike was an Africa Twin. I loved the bike but hated the weight. So, my thought was, hey, I had a 250L and loved it I'll sell the AT and try to get my hands on a 300L Rally. Well, my dealer just happened to have one not spoken for so I grabbed it. I have the Rally a year now and added a few things, one of which was a K-Tech rear shock/spring. It made a big difference. The Rally reminds me of my AT but a lot lighter. It rides like a big bike without the weight. It was a good decision. I just turned 70 last month and have no regrets about selling the AT. I do love the Rally and it inspires confidence especially without the extra weight. On an unrelated note, I purchased my first ever scooter this past summer. A Suzuki Burgman 400. It's a BLAST! I know that scooters have a stigma and MC riders look down at scooters but at my stage I'm all about enjoyment and fun. At present I have a Triumph Bonnie, a 300 Rally and the Burg.
An interesting perspective Andrew. I've set up my Rally for places that are too challenging to my Africa Twin. I will be doing river and creek crossings and single trails as well as tussock tops in the New Zealand's South Island using upgraded suspension that will carry Giant Loop Great Basin rackless luggage for remote camping. I will be using full off road tyres on holiday. Finally I would like to thank you for your most interesting and helpful series.
I'm fixing to buy one. I'm 54 and an experienced rider. Great video and ty for review.
To reckon or not to reckon. That is the question? (I reckon)
i have a honda 300 rally in thailand 2023 and i have upgraded both the front and back suppension, exhaust and added a ECU what a great bike and a great video thanks
I bought a Rally back in July 2022 and I plan to take it on a trip from Oregon to Patagonia in February. A reverse itchy boots trip.
I am brand new to motorcycles and this bike fits my needs. I do envy the power to weight ratios of my friends bikes (SWM500 / DR650) but at the end of the day the Rally gets me wherever I want to go. I was able to keep up with my friends and their gas mileage and fuel range seemed to be more of the limiting factor on our ride.
Loaded up with gear there is not much suspension travel for me and I bottomed the bike out hard going too fast off-road or specifically when trying to hit sand dunes at speed to make it to the top.
All in all I love this bike and your content! I appreciate the perspective and practical advice you provide. Great videos! I plan on making a TH-cam channel soon covering my adventures because I have a passion for travel and videography.
Thanks for all the tips and encouragement to new riders. And for putting in the time to invest in an ADV / Dual Sport community.
That was the most informative video on this motorcycle that I have watched. I'm in the U.K. 64 yrs old and wanting to get back into riding motorcycles after a 34yr gap. I don’t want anything too heavy. I'm not interested in going fast. I just want a bike which is fun, frugal and looks good too. The Honda cfr300 rally just ticks so many boxes!
I am a keen cyclist on the road and also mtb on the trails and I just see this motorcycle would be a smooth transition to getting back into motorcycles.
Thanks Andrew for a great video 👏👍
I am a 53 year old owner of a Kawasaki KLX 250f. I am constantly upset by having to come back home to refuel. I live in the middle of nowhere and there is only one gas station 1.5 miles from my house and then the next one either way is 30 miles. I am convinced this is the bike for me because I want to drive to neighboring states (I live in western ND) and then go off road, camp, hangout for a few days, etc.
Did you ever get your 300? (I’m near Mandan)
300 Rally 66 years old road dirt and street all my life. New front fork set up and rear for 100 kg stage 1 ecu 550 performance aftermarket exhaust made by me Handel bars al bash plate bigger foot pegs luggage rack new tyres levers new foot stand plate tail tidy better air filter folding mirrors cost $ 2500 NZ. Biker bits sell lots of aftermarket parts at good prices. Totally different bike to ride the bike feels more planted handles great well worth the money with the mods
No trouble whatsoever watching this review to the conclusion...for me, even a bit longer would've been welcomed. Was already sold on a 300L Rally before this video...now you've made want two of 'em!
Thank you for this review...it answered all questions I had about the Rally, and quite a few I hadn't considered.
Haha well I am glad you found value in my video!
I've been riding for 52 years, I'm thinking about getting one to these rallies 300 hondas. I've had every kind of bike known to imagenation It's probably not too soft. There's just a handful of people who ride in the rocks out in the desert, but most of us ride in the middle, Pennsylvania in the New England states, so God bless everyone.
I just bought a Rally. Just finished my first 99 mile shake down ride. 80 miles on road, about 20 on mixed gravel road. Some of the gravel was thick and fresh which was a little squirrelly at first.. this was my first ride. I’m headed out for a 5 day adventure trip next week in the Olympic mountains. I’ll comment back when I return. I have really enjoyed your videos. Very well presented solid information. Thank you.
watched to the and, never mind to the "heart" speech. but seriously -- love your work. I'm an older rider on the other side of the Atlantic who only started riding in second lockdown as a way of staying sane. It was exercise... I started watching you regularly when you got your 300l even though what i really wanted was a Rally. Super glad you got a Rally now. I really appreciate this review and just wanted to say LYW. (love your work)
I have a 250RL. Essentially the same bike with 3 less hp than the 300. It was my first bike and I put 1500 miles on it before I outgrew it. Having no basis of comparison I really loved the bike. It is silky smooth, extremely comfortable, looks cool, and can tractor up any trail without too much fuss. It sips gas but has a relatively small tank even on the Rally. It is just a really tame bike for moderate riding. Once I started to push things a little harder is where its shortcomings start to pop up. It is a heavy bike for its engine, and it carries its weight high, making it feel even heavier. It will go, and can keep up with traffic but just barely and you have to ring its neck to get up to speed. You can run it full throttle through 1st 2nd, and third and just be keeping up with traffic leaving a light. The suspension although soft and compliant does more harm than good when on a bumpy trail. It like riding a pogo stick at speed, better slow way down and crawl over the whoops because it bucks and can upset your stability. When stopping , due to the terrible front suspension, the bike nosedives. When accelerating the bike noses up, and at night the headlight shines up or down when accelerating or decelerating. I bought a KTM 690 Euduro after test riding it. The 690 weighs about the same, but has excellent suspension, and carries its weight low, making it feel better balanced. I am not a fast rider by any stretch but the 690 really shines where the 250 falls short. I understand that the 250LR can be upgraded but in the end, it is still small displacement heavy bike. The 250LR is a fantastic little bike, depending on what you use if for. It has excellent build quality and is perfect around town commuting and trails. It has its limitations which is the reality that alot of reviewers will gloss over. Cheers and happy riding.
Australia here. Mine arrives in March, I'm a 57yo rider who had a 22 year break, came back to riding with a sports tourer about 4 years ago, but I cut my teeth on an XL500R and the dirt has been calling me. Can't wait to have this bike that won't be trying to kill me every time I twist the throttle. Yes I watched all the way thru!
I own a Rally and love this bike. I am 152 LB 30" inseam and 5'9" tall and I am 71 years old. I have 20 years riding experience and have owned many other bikes. I have ridden this bike off road and have not had much of a problem with the suspension there but I have had issues on the highway when loaded down with 4 days worth of camping gear. So I am going to look into upgrading the suspension. As for the stock tires they are awful off road and I am going to change them to D 606's. I love the gas mileage on this bike I get 70 to80 MPG all the time. I have had no problem on the freeway either. It will do 70 MPH with out to much problem all though there is not much left to pass at that speed but I only get on the freeway when I absolutely have to. So I hope this information is helpful to those considering buying this motorcycle.
Great job laying out your mods, why you did them, and how they work in conjunction with each other. It's rare to get a full explanation like that. The doors to the dealer are beckoning me!
Haha well, If you can find one I would say you will love it.
I'll be picking my 300 rally in the next two days. I've been watching reviews for a while now and yours is the most comprehensive I've seen. I'm an 81 year old expat living in the Philippines. When I first arrived here I bought a Honda scooter, meh. The subdivision where I live has bad roads that is not conducive to an expat. So I bought a Honda xrm 125 farm bike. the bike is made in the Philippines for the Philippines. I thought that it would solve my road problems. Turns out it is a piece of trash, thus the 300 rally. Once I ride it a bit I'll give you a shout. Thanks again for a terrific review!
Yes, I am in the process of buying a CRF 300 rally. I have owned and ridden multiple Harley Davidson's, those were heavy with super squishy suspension. The rally will be a so nice change. You don't take an HD off road, even gravel roads is super sketchy.
As someone else said in the comments here, the ktech front and rear is ample for this bike, 220lbs without kit so I needed it. I off road on the rough stuff, it drops ok and I do long miles getting places, commute daily, it's a great all rounder for the money. It is no rocket but does the job. I've done 6k+ miles, in UK weather, its kept in a damp shed (i need to sort it lol) the exhaust is rusty but everything else is good, I have put pannier rack and back rack on it, outback motortech, the extra weight is worth the ability to carry what you want and crash it without worrying about the exhaust.
I have put barkbusters on but... they'll do.
Tire wise, stock were ok, I use Pirelli MT21s, have a pair of Siracs for winter..
Waiting for some more choice in road legal exhausts, Arrow does one but its expensive, and I know nothing about ECUs and don't want to be cutting up airboxes. As always it was good to hear your take on the Rally.. this is just my thoughts on it.
I have one fully stock (plus crash bars) with ABS & love it. I am 53 years old, 5'-10" 178 pounds & it handles nicely for me. I only occasionally ride it in U.S. Forest, though. I was one of the first ones to get one in July 2021 but have less than 100 miles on it with an average of 12 miles per hour. Wife enjoys riding it with me, too. She is 5'-7" 145 pounds. It handles us both with no issues.
Good video. I'm a 59 year old retired guy. Rode when I was younger. This past February I finally found and purchased a CT125 Honda Trail. I enjoyed it more than I thought. I put almost 3100 miles on it this year. Only thing is, on the Highway, when I have to get on one, I struggle to get 55mph out of it depending on the grade. That is the only reason I am looking at the Rally. I weigh 215 and I'm 6'0''. The problem I am running into, and you addressed it. I cant find one in stock anywhere. Same problem I had with the little CT125. Looks like It would suit my needs pretty well. I haven't rode a CRF300 as of yet. If the CT was available in a say 175 or 200 I would be totally happy with it. Its been a fun little bike and gets 120mpg for me.
Hi I bought my rally in Greece it would never idle it would cut out at 2000 revs,I had to wait 3 months for an electrical part which regulates the idle speed when it was fitted it was exactly the same!somewhere on a CRF forum I read this guy had the same trouble,he eventually found the problem a cracked spark plug cap and surely enough mine was cracked allowing the lead to short onto the cylinder head only at low revs,now it's fine,I also changed to 80/20 tyres as it wouldn't hold a straight line on the tarmac and finally to reduce helmet buffeting I added three washers behind the windscreen bottom screw allowing wind to pass behind the screen equalising the inside and outside win pressure doing this cut down 80% of the buffeting,hope this has been helpful,ride on people!
Bought the rally last year in May. First bike ever and I would say it was on the heavier end at first but I grew with the bike and it has definitely made me a better rider. Front suspension was one of the first things I upgraded as I started to ride more aggressively. I am definitely looking to upgrade to a DRZ400 or Honda XR650 after I drop my rally a few more times and get better. These are almost in the same weight class as the rally but with some more power to get me out of situations the rally might bearly get me out of 😅
Well of you have the money look into a KTM690
I'm used to street bikes and cruisers. A coworker was selling his 300L with 200 miles on it. I was curious so I gave it a test ride. Ran it through a field and hopped a couple curbs and what I call "the giggle factor" took over. That's when I know it's a keeper. Pulled the trigger and take delivery next week. Pretty excited
I have a 300L and have put on 11400 kms. Both on and off road the bike has served me well. No big issues. Adjusted preload, put in a Cyclops LED headlight, seat concepts saddle, rack & rotopax fuel container are most of my mods. Just added a windshield as well. After over 8000 kms on the IRC tires, I replaced them with Mitas 50/50 tires. Great bike. Good value. Thanks for the good videos.
I am loving mine after a few mods. Rolled over 5,500 miles since June with mostly daily miles and a few Offroad days. The Oxford Heated Grips are keeping me rolling with temps in the 30s here but I refuse to take my truck to work anymore. Its just so much more fun on the little Rally.
You also benefit from the great gas mileage when you use it as a little commuter.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Very true. Usually between 65-80MPG depending on how hard I'm flogging the little bike. Im saving hundreds a month compared to my Lexus 4x4 that gets around 13mpg
I watched the whole vid, love your content. I just bought the 300l a few months ago because of your vids☺️.
Well thank you for all of your support.
great review. I have CRF250 rally, upgraded suspension, and will take on everything that I want to do and more.
Nice, I never rode one. I did do a 300L vs 250L side by side video though.
I bought a rally a few months ago with 49 miles on it and was stock. My biggest advice to anyone is to ride it for a while before you mod it. There are a lot of good mods out there but it's pretty nice as is. I've added a rack and that's it. Riding mostly on pavement in the city.
I agree 100%, thanks for the comment.
Waiting on my 300 Rally now!! Thanks for the vid. Very excited
I’m 70 and couldn’t pick up my Harley up by myself anymore. I downsize to the crf300L loving it . I know the suspension is soft. The only thing I miss is the forward controls , grunt, and sound. But I still get some air in my face. And definitely never use a windshield.
Very good review. I am going off road for 45 years now. A soft suspension with a 30% of negative travel is best for touring and modest speeds on the trails. But people who mix up our nature with a race track won’t understand….
I have a Rally and I did the 550 performance as well and I love it.
I know it has been a year but I am looking seriously to purchase a 2024 model. I have been looking at this model for quite some time and believe it will be good for the variety of riding I want to do. Years ago I owned a 1974 350XL and loved and wished I would have kept it. I have a feeling the ride on this one is far superior and maybe even the power. If you have any other comments I would be happy to hear as these have just become available in my area finally.
I just got a 2021 Rally last week and I love it. I read a ton of comments complaining about the suspension, but it’s not that bad unless you are going to do some pretty serious off-roading. I’m 6’2” 240 lbs and I don’t feel the bike bottoming out when I go over bumps. It’s all about how you ride I guess. I know it’s a relatively small displacement bike, but I wish it had a little more torque throughout the entire range. I don’t have to be poppin 3rd gear wheelies, but I wish it had a little more pull in the 3rd and 4th gears. Overall I LOVE the bike and would recommend it to anyone looking for an all around, Swiss army style bike.
Short rider here 5'6'' 160lbs, looking at options for first bike ever. I was looking a lot into the Tenere 700 but the more I read and watch the rally 300 I think it would be more suited. Will have to wait for the nice season up here in Canada for test drive, also Yamaha dealers are VERY scarce in my area. Will be doing moslty comune trip for work, bit of adventure once in a while and some off road trails maybe 10% of the time. I enjoyed your video keep em coming!
I'm about your size and have a triumph tiger 800 and hate how tall and top heavy it is, great bike, I can ride it, but have definitely hurt myself in the past riding it and having to lift it. Tenere is even taller, also top heavy. go with the lighter bike, and definitely get something that is serviceable in your area. I run into this with the triumph a lot with closest dealership around at an hour and a half away. such a hastle.
I have the Rally, i put a 550 performance ECU (stock improved) and outback motortek crash bars. i love this bike , saving gas as i use it for commuting to work.
Did you notice a performance upgrade on the stock improved?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad possibly a little , but mostly got it for the shut off thing that was happening when you let off the throttle and get back on it. Gas mileage did suffer slightly too.
I absolutely love my 300 Rally which I use 100% on road, doesn't have the power of my previous KTM 690sm but the fun factor is the same👌
I'm 46, 6'3" and weigh about 245lbs. I have experience riding old xr 250s back in 90s. I'm really considering the Rally but I was worried about it not fitting me. You've answered many of my questions and am excited to get riding this spring after getting my license.
I cant really say how it will fit you since Im 5'10" but I think it will do well.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad one guy said it'll be too small and I should go for the KLX 300, but I really like the features of the Rally way better. Any thoughts?
@@RichyRich-eo9uk well the KLX300 is the exact same size.. lol seat height, controls and all lol. I did a video of the KLX300 and CRF300 side by side last year.
I am 6'4 and it is smallish bike. It can be adjusted but it is still a small bike, which is the fun part when you are riding it.
Im 6' and 260+. Im a new offroad rider, and to make enough room for me I had to add offset risers and a new handlebar setup. Now it feels great when standing. Its also comfortable for a longer street ride. Will be doing more mods, but I think its a great choice!
My riding buddies and I ride KTM/Husky, Beta,BMW dual sport and adventure bikes. 7 of us just did an 8 day mountain tour in northern Vietnam.
We rode CRF 300Ls. We had a TOTAL blast. It’s so much more fun over-riding a slow bike than under-riding a fast bike. There were sections on the road and off-road where we left our guide behind cuz we were having so much fun.
I have a 300 Rally in the Philippines which is perfect cuz I ride it like I do off-road but I don’t have to worry about getting a ticket.
I’m modding it up with 550 Performance so it’s gonna be a blast.
One comment: my 890 feels just like my 500…except when I have to pick it up.
Well done ! Best review of this bike I’ve seen.
Thanks 👍 I am glad you enjoyed it!
I agree pretty much with this review
The 300 rally was my first Honda after riding only BMWs
After 1500 miles the Honda is for sale and I purchased a 95 R100 GS Bmw
No complaints now
You can pay $10k for a lighter bike with a better suspension if you want to go fast. It’s a dual sport trail bike for $6k, $7k in the Rally. If you really want to you can upgrade the suspension for $1000 or less and still be money ahead. You also won’t get near the gas mileage with the $10k+ bikes.
Agreed.
8000km's on rally here; Just a headup. Outback motortek's bash plate doesn't require butchering the fairing. Their crash bard and luggage racks are awesome to! Also, "to now"
But their crash bars don’t protect the lower fairing on the Rally at all. I would had rather given my money to outback, but after dropping my bike once or twice, I learned that lower crash bars suited my needs better.
@@airadaimagery692 with ll their bash plate and bars are well suited for my mild(ish) tet'ing.
Wow! That was easily the best review I've seen on the L/Rally. Subbed.
Hey thank you! One of the first videos I did on the channel 2yrs ago was the 300L review. Check it out if you havent.
th-cam.com/video/21MM-_iJhbA/w-d-xo.html
I watched the video to the end. I don't own a 300 rally. I just love your content.
Thank you Kurt, you are awesome!
Trek Ethos has a video of going 1,000 miles in one 24 hour period on the CRG300L Rally. Highway speed 70 - 80mph for hours at a time with fuel consumption of 50-55mph at those speeds. No hiccups. The bike steady without problem. AMAZING performance and endurance. I would not be concerned to take this bike anywhere. I will be looking for one.
That's a solid bike. I went to test ride one today and it was sold already.
Thanks for showing the ramp up from 40 to 70 mph. That's the sort of real metric that matters way more specs alone.
No problem, I have actually ran a baseline 4 times before and after I did the mods. I will have more information on my ECU video coming soon.
I'm a former MX, enduro, and supermoto racer. I want to get a Rally, bore it to around 350cc, pipe, ecu, air box mod, remove the smog stuff, weight reduction, and make the suspension able to rage through whoops with my 200 pound ass on it and then ride it to work during the week and then go race it from time to time. Basically I want to turn it into a sleeper bike that makes people say WTF. I did something similar with my old 2012 KLR650 and podiumed in a local hare scramble race. I was tired as hell afterward but it was fun
Sounds like it will be a beast, tho she will be heavy for the races.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad no problem. I blitz my 2018 KLR650 around off road so the Rally will be an MX bike compared to the KLR. I also podiumed a local hare scramble on a pumped to the balls 2012 KLR. Call me nuts but I love using dual sports to F with people lol
I have a 2021 Crf 300L Rally stock motor exhaust and front suspension added a Hyperpro rear spring made a big difference to me and less expensive love my rally👍 nice informative vid 👍👍
Nice, Congratz on the awesome bike.
Good viddy. I have a WR250R and my buddy has a 300 Rally. We went on a 600 mile overland weekend trip and I could tell he had an advantage over me with the down low torque on rocky hill climbs. Top end on HWY was the same. When I rode his, I was disappointed about the soft suspension and how wide the tank was. I (6"4") could not get comfy with my long legs. Also, the WR feels a bit more snatchy on the throttle where the Rally is super smooth.
hey Andrew, just want you to know I appreciate you, your videos without question are in a class of their own, professional, entertaining, top notch information and I always watch each one all the way through, cheers!
Thank you so much Brad your support means a ton. I am glad you enjoy and I will try to keep making content that you will find entertaining in the area of Dual sport motorcycles.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Andrew, thanks so much, I've been actively riding 91 Honda XR600R since new, but am seriously considering CRF300L,, appreciate you...cheers
Thanks for that Andrew. I'm in The Netherlands with a BMW g650 Xcountry and contemplating my next bike. I ride TET, commute 50kms to work and back and during my vacation head down to the Spanish Pyrenees. That leaves me weighing up between the cb500x or the crf300l or Rally. I enjoy your channel and it has helped me to narrow down my choice. Keep up the good work!
Great video. I am sold. Picking up a 300L tomorrow.
I have had mine for about 5 days and about 20 minutes a day on trafficless neighborhood streets learning how to ride it. So far it’s a balance of excitement and anxiety. My big problem is making a turn from a stop requires a clutch/throttle synchronization which I have not mastered yet as obvious from jerky response I am getting.
I have had my CRF 300l for two riding seasons now. I want to chime in on experience I have had with the suspension. I am 205lbs and had the preload adjusted to the max setting. This made a huge difference in the sag and stroke of the shock allowing it not to bottom out. The bike came set up on the softest setting which was ridiculous from the factory. If you are expecting a motocross bike feel, and want to ride in areas that are torn up with whoops and deep sand you will not be happy with this bike no matter what you do with it. It is not what the bike was designed for. Where this bike shines is on forest type trails and light enduro areas. It took me a while to figure out where it shined and now I love it. It will go on any adventure and get you back without having to haul it on a truck. I have even grown fond of the softer suspension as it is super comfortable for long rides on and off road. The shock isn’t that easy to bottom out if you stand and use your legs like you would on any bike on jumps and whoops since it has quite a bit of travel. I have owned many types of dirt bikes and atvs and this one is by far my favorite!
I'm 65 years old and just took my first ride on my new 2024 Rally on some back road trails and roads. Love it! I am coming from a Tenere 700 that is too much bike for me when the riding gets technical. I rode thru some mud holes, sand sections and rocky bits and this bike is a dream! On the T7 I would have been shi$ing myself. I'm 6'2" and 200 llbs and so far the only required upgrade that is needed is handlebar risers. I found it very difficult to stand on the stock bike. I've also ordered the YSS rear shock replacement as the bike is so soft it is funny. I want to do some BDR's on this bike so a better rear shock will be appreciated. I'm also going to replace the gear shifter lever and brake lever as they are rather comical in their construction. But what a bike!!
My rally with me 6’2”…200. I loaded it up and no problem. I ran out of power on highway needed full throttle to hold 70. But…plenty fast enough. Cruised well though…nice wind protection. Love that u r judging the bike for its intended purpose! Yes this is the ultimate BDR type machine.
Thanks, and yeah I do with this bike exactly what it is designed for.
I bought the rally version just for commuting and very light offroad. Mostly what I was after is good mpg, i made 74.1mpg on the last tank. I'm 5'11" and 155 lbs so the suspension isn't an issue.
Thank you for your input!
Nice video. I liked it all the way through. I've also heard great things about the Cogent shocks and their service backing. I look forward to your review video after you put it on.
I have the 250 Rally, living in New Zealand. I LOVE it! Although its my first bike, i am riding it pretty hard, through the rough and rocky, unforgiving NZ terrain. Through rivers, up mountains, powering up steep hillclimbs, over jumps and on long road trips. It does everything really well, and handles any terrain. The bike always gets me back out of any situation. Its light enough to pick up alone and its tough.
Its a great value bike. and because its relatively cheap, im not too afraid of dropping it ( its taken a beating) .
I will do the suspension upgrade, im not heavy (70kg) but jumping can bottom out and rebound is an issue.
Love the 250 Rally! Going on 2 years. Made a trip down to Big bend and back. Rally made it a súper easy ride.
Outstanding review, with so much detail.
On the subject of road speed, I am a 66 year old that has been steadily downsizing for some time. I only do road, not much off road opportunity in my part of Germany.
I asked myself, "what's my normal top speed". Typically 60mph. So any bike that can do 20% more than that, is fast enough. Ride a 350 Enfield at the moment but would love to add a Rally to the stable.
You are rather persuasive..
That was us 😀 Really enjoy your videos. We have a pair of 300Ls now.. in addition to the Groms 👍 If we didn't have the T7s the Rallly would be the one for sure.
Yes! I loved your series, I binged watched the whole thing. Doing the TAT on the groms had to be a huge task.
I got my 2023 Rally about a month ago it was a 23 left over, I really love it suits me just fine . WV. I’m 65 got rid of my DR 650, the pig.
Do you miss the power of the 650?
@ not really I love the dependability
Just put a deposit down on a 300 Rally to be delivered just after Memorial Day... Thanks Andrew. You sealed the deal for me. --Tripp
Awesome! let me know when you get it, it will be a great day.
Yup This Was Me Today ON My New 2 Day Old XR 150LS . This Thing Is Too Much Fun . I Had More Fun In 1st & 2nd Gear OffRoading Than ON The Highway In 5th Gear . I Never Realized A Low CC 1 Cylinder Bike Could Be So Much Fun .
Haha yeah, sometimes it is more fun to ride smaller bike fast then a bigger bike slow.
I watched it all. You are my weight, and ride like I do. People who say the suspension is too soft are riding much faster on rough terrain.
This guy always talks sense. Just want I've been looking for, thanks! 👍🏽😉
Two-year rider. Outridden my Honda Phantom Shadow with aching butt after 50 miles. Time for longer distance and lighter bike. I think this one is it. Yup. Made it to the end. First timer.
Great video. I just purchased the 300 rally and my first impressions are this: The seat is hard and the pegs are small. I'm 210 lbs and with the preload cranked all the way, the suspension is livable. The pegs will get my attention first. I also own a Harley Davidson Pan America so I'm used to a bigger, heavier bike and find this thing to be a breeze to throw around. Heavy? No way! My reasoning for this bike was its lightweight. Simply to play in the woods with and still be able to ride it on the road. Also, Pulling a boat with my truck camper, I should be able to get this lightweight bike onto a front hitch carrier where the Pan America is just too big and heavy to do so.
Okay I’m over 50 and always a Street Rossi until I got an XR 150 L now I’m contemplating on buying a CRF 300 rally. I’ve been waiting to see if they come out with a 450 but that seems not to be the case. I see CF Moto came out with a 450 and I think that is the sweet spot for us American writers that are pushing 250 and more. Do you know McDonald’s size? LoL I love the idea of the range and everything about this bike. I watch dork in the road TH-camr make killer content as well and now I’m watching years and you do a great job.
UK. 300 Rally, on delivery: expected March 2023. 6500 GBP stock. Thanks, good to have your appraisal.
Awesome! and congratulations.
Thanks for the video, watched it to the end - as a beginner in off roading with a 300L most of the mods you suggest aren/t really necessary for me. Its the basic mods that I felt more important like the boot frame protectors, a bash plate and uprated hand guards as the basics. But it's great that there is so much you can do to upgrade - and thanks for highlighting areas I wouldn't have even thought of.
Does the rally need boot frame guards or just the L?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Only having the L I don't know. But it certainly helps frame scratch on the L
Having a 300L after 2300 miles that I did this summer, I can confirm that the weight is so well balanced that you don't even notice the 310lbs or so. The suspension though, the OEM suspension is not as bad as I thought it would be. Maybe because I set the preload before taking my first ride! But it is a bit soft but I don't think the spring is much of an issue. I find that the dampening on the shock is what bothers me the most after gaining some experience with this bike. The bouncyness when hitting bumps just gets dizzying after a long day riding. But to be honest for what the stock suspension is, it has been pretty adequate so far doing some light trails.
Yeah, for most people they will be on road most of the time and the stock suspension is not bad for that.
You’ve come to almost all the same conclusions I did for my review. People seriously misunderstand this bike. I’ve started a deep dive series on showing the capabilities of the bike and trying to explain to people what’s going on mechanically and what to adjust for different types of ride
Andrew, I really enjoyed the video, stayed to the end, and let you know as requested. I am not sure if the 300 Rally is the one for me but your video has moved it back into a strong spot on my list of contenders for my next bike. Thank you and wish you much success with your channel.
Thank you James!
I have a 300 Rally, and I 100% agree with the assessment about the stock tires! If you're new to offroad riding (like I am), get some 10/90 tires to get some offroad confidence. I did the Kenda Trackmaster on the front and the Tusk D Sport on the rear, and its night and day difference! So is upgrading the suspension. Racetech front, K Tech rear springs made a huge difference for me offroad and trail riding (heavier than average rider). My buddy was watching me ride with the stock suspension and it was just compressing going over anything technical. With the upgraded springs, the suspension cycles like it should. I'm looking at this bike as my do anything bike. I can really only have one bike, so if I can trail ride it, BDR it, and street ride it, to me its the Swiss army knife of bikes! Looking forward to a lot more riding next season!
Great content Andrew, Im new to motorcycling and have been honing in on my personal goals for a bike. As a new rider who wants a light weight ADV for BDR camping and house to fire road camping this looks like a winner in my book. Low price, lower seat height, not too powerful to scare a new rider, and highly capable out of the box. I think Ill be purchasing one this summer.... Thanks again for the review. I stayed on until the end... and tbh it was because where you ride has some pretty cool trails and it was good to see the CRFs capability on the terrain
Watched the entire vid -- best Rally review out there!
Thank you!
this is on top of my list for next bike purchase , thanks for such a detailed breakdown , and as you asked i stayed till the end 🙂
Thanks for the video. I'm just north of 50 and haven't been on a bike in some time. We're moving out to the country this year and I am wanting something for putting around town, a little interstate use (very little) and some dirt/gravel roads. The Rally is really intriguing.
Excellent content. I watched all the way until the end. You have a great delivery, combined with authenticity and obvious expertise and experience in the subject matter. Thanks for your time doing these videos, they are very helpful. More please!
In terms of being fit for purpose it's the best bike on the road today.
My old 250 rally had a bent chassis that made it lean left, rusted out steering head bearing and flat rear tier due to the tube disintegrating but in that condition it still had better road handling than most road bikes out there or at least the 17 or so other bikes that I have ridden.
It just leans deeper and it's more stable per lean angle. It eases in and out of traction so smoothly you won't even notice it. You don't have to worry about things like body position or finessing of the throttle or handlebar, you just let it drop sideways, kick a leg out and twist the throttle all the way and the bike does the rest.
Sure it's slow and the gearbox is agricultural and the brakes lack persuasion and the suspension is mush,
but Honda got the basic geometry of the bike right. Everything else is just noise
Damn how did you bend it?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Got hit by a car
@@omgelvis damn.. glad you still ride.
Hello I'm new,ish to motorcycling at 43 years of age, but allways wanted a bike I have an apriliasx 125 with wintergrip2 tyres as I travel in all weathers including snow rain and ice and love it, I've had the bike nearly a year and have many bikes in my likes list, for instance, tenere660,700 or bmwf800, obviously bit big for a 2nd bike, but I do like the crf300 rally especially after watching season 6 of itchy boots on TH-cam traveling thousands of miles on her crf300rally, so it's had a real workout and very capable bike and will be my first bike after passing my test, I love it and can't wait to have one 👍
I own a rally in australia, i daily ride it and absolutely love it. I also own a 23 KTM 300 TPI.
I imagine someone who owns a ktm would say this bike is heavy. I imagine someone who owns a africa twin/BMW or tenere would say this is incredibly light.
The suspension does need doing. The problem i had with it was going down a rocky trail. The suspension would spring down and my frame would smash the rock i was going down, similarly upward but not as much. You could argue i was where the rally shouldnt be, but with suspension it would actually perform in most enduro situations (am very amateur, probably just a small hill to others). If you plan on only riding on road or a dusy/sandy trail dont bother. But if you wanna do something a little spicey that you dont want your mum/mrs to know get the upgrade.
Only other thing that needs doing is a small extension on your windscreen so your head doesnt get smashed by wind on the highway. I also had a moment going up a steep hill where the windscreen touched my nose. I am now aware that could have been a disaster so hopefully you are now aware too.
Taking mine across country stock. Suspension soft like a caddy. I don’t jump it…it works just fine to see the country out of the box. 6 speeds with huge gas tank! Good lights! All round good egg
I agree 100%