One of the best, most concise, and informative histories of the Gold Dust Trio and the origin of modern pro wrestling. Except for one thing... Stecher (or Stetcher) is pronounced "Stecker".
6:45 - Fun fact : Greco-Roman was invented by Jean Exbrayat , a former Napoleonic Soldier, with the name *Flat Hand Wrestling* ==> As a matter of fact, it's was called _French Wrestling_ And also, in French Boxing, we also use *Parisian Wrestling* : that is freestyle/Greco throws & takedown to slam the opponent to the ground.
What do I think? I think you found your new gimmick! In the words of Biff Tannen: You know your history. Very good. And truth be told, back in the late 20s/early 30s, my great-grandfather was a shooter (up here in the Dakotas). He used to let guys challenge him, going bar to bar, to make money. Few generations later, I trained under Severn, idolized Thesz, and became an indy guy - wanting to pursue submission grappling (til my health tanked). It's funny how the past can have such a profound effect on 1 person, or an entire industry.
Just discovered your channel via some wrestling history searches. I listen to all the Cornette podcasts. His Drive-Thru USED to be all about fan questions & we’d learn a lot. But, they’ve fallen off, with that, in place of reviewing modern shows. There’s soooo many between WWE & AEW alone, that’s basically all they DO now. But, that being said…LOVING your channel. I love learning pro wrestling history. There’s just SO many interesting figures in soooo many interesting happening, occurrences, & stories. Thank you, good sir!
Analytical and factual. These are the outstanding features of this channel. Other channels are too much opinionated and immature. Keep up the good work.
Lou Thesz has his book on Amazon/Kindle. Its amazing how a lot of those 100 year old catch wrestling books still have useful information. A lot you can just download. But what kind of MMA do you expect to learn from a 100 year old book? Ed "Strangler" Lewis went blind towards the end of his life. His eyes were infected from a dirty mat. He taught Lou Thesz everything he knew. Lou Thesz came from this era, where shooting was dying and working was becoming a thing. I recommend his book.
Okay, that was impressive research, and impressive showmanship. Good pacing, but... But you can't just tell us that they pushed mid-card guys with personality, and not name names or at least give us a taste of the wild stories long forgotten. This would become an important part of wrestling's mainstream success - every promotion that ever succeeded, had to make you care passionately about fights that'd never get anywhere near the gold. And this is information that's really hard to come by. Most histories I've read start with: "And then one day, Gorgeous George invented the modern heel, out of nowhere." And with some digging, you can find the first foreign monster heel. And that's about it.
I've heard some of this information and knew the names of these three men, but never put together and showing the connections like this. I didnt realize they pretty much controlled professional wrestling at the time. Great job once again, Dave.
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so. I try to have a different channel to talk about things in a different way. Always nice to be appreciated
Also interesting their effects on the shoot side because a few years later catch wrestling was on the verge of being banned due to a few instances of combatants being killed during a catch wrestling match (or some rumors stay that boxing promoters of the time fabricated or caused the death through paid off refs to give catch wrestling a bad rap so boxing could take over) so they pretty much saved catch wrestling by going into a work.
@@DaveKnowsWrestling it was just a rumor but it is kind of weird catch wrestling has had more deaths than MMA and jujitsu put together you know and let's not pretend also most promoters are scumbags even to this day
In all seriousness, I feel like Indiana Jones coming across a golden historical artifact. And speaking of historical golden artifacts, I may never look at Goldust the same way again.
I remember the documentary back in the late 90s or early 2000 on A&E Wrestling, it was in that I first heard of the Gold Dust Trio. Glad to see this and being reminded again.
It can be hard, but there are reliable places out there and when you do the research certain things just start lining up and that is usual a good place to start. Also the book The Fall Guys is great for this particular subject
I'm hoping there's more information on great channels like yours. I'm trying to find any promotional materials or pictures of my grandfather, who wrestled as a local mid-carder in the Southwest during the 30s
@@DaveKnowsWrestling too true, too true. I’m always looking for matches from the past, the older the better, and am always amazed at how the craft has evolved. All the innovation and “less is more” in-ring action just really appeals to me. Just wish more survived or was recorded to begin with. What I wouldn’t give to see a prime Hackenschmidt or Gotch match as it happened.
Sorry I don't have the money for patron right now bc u make such great content that u should have way more paying customers then u do as soon as I can I will become a supporter thanks to u and ur team for always doing great work
Dave, I've been watching some of the early WCW shows that were produced by Crockett Promotions. There was a guy that was tag team partners with Rick Rude called tge Raging Bull Manny Fernandez. Later, when WCW was sold to Turner, there was a job guy called Manny Fernandez. Any idea if they are the same guy? They don't look anything alike. Thanks for the great videos!
@@DaveKnowsWrestling That's kind of curious. Why is it that guys like him, Brad Armstrong, Pistol Pez Whatley and Buddy Landel did well under the NWA banner, and not so well under WCW?
@@DaveKnowsWrestling IF you can call Russo a "mind". And Herd wasn't much better. He gave Armstrong some of the dumbest gimmicks of his career. Wow, the more you think about it, WCW really did have only 1 or 2 DECENT managers.
I can see now that WWE had just as rich a lineage as WCW did it’s just it seems that modern WWE forgets that. I assume VKM named Dustin Rhode’s Goldust character in 95 taking the name from The Gold Dust Trio?
![The Gold Dust Trio [1] Working the Marks.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/te51tO8RSD8/mqdefault.jpg)
![The Gold Dust Trio [1] Working the Marks.](/img/tr.png)
This is the content that separates you from the other wrestling channels and why I follow. Keep up the good work, you're awesome!
Thank you so much for the compliment, means a lot
I'd love to see a video on the foundation of the AWA. I can't get enough of the early wrestling years.
I already have one so you're in luck
One of the best, most concise, and informative histories of the Gold Dust Trio and the origin of modern pro wrestling. Except for one thing... Stecher (or Stetcher) is pronounced "Stecker".
6:45 - Fun fact : Greco-Roman was invented by Jean Exbrayat , a former Napoleonic Soldier, with the name *Flat Hand Wrestling* ==> As a matter of fact, it's was called _French Wrestling_
And also, in French Boxing, we also use *Parisian Wrestling* : that is freestyle/Greco throws & takedown to slam the opponent to the ground.
What do I think?
I think you found your new gimmick!
In the words of Biff Tannen:
You know your history. Very good.
And truth be told, back in the late 20s/early 30s, my great-grandfather was a shooter (up here in the Dakotas). He used to let guys challenge him, going bar to bar, to make money. Few generations later, I trained under Severn, idolized Thesz, and became an indy guy - wanting to pursue submission grappling (til my health tanked).
It's funny how the past can have such a profound effect on 1 person, or an entire industry.
BTTF quote is always good by me
I absolutely LOVE whenever you do history videos
Thank you so much for the kind words. Always grateful for you being here
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Don't be TOO grateful yet, I gotta remember to hop onto the Patreon 😅
Any support, verbal or otherwise is appreciated
Just discovered your channel via some wrestling history searches. I listen to all the Cornette podcasts. His Drive-Thru USED to be all about fan questions & we’d learn a lot. But, they’ve fallen off, with that, in place of reviewing modern shows. There’s soooo many between WWE & AEW alone, that’s basically all they DO now.
But, that being said…LOVING your channel. I love learning pro wrestling history. There’s just SO many interesting figures in soooo many interesting happening, occurrences, & stories.
Thank you, good sir!
Great all around presentation!
Love the cinematic vibe.
Your narrative is always articulate & spoken with clarity.
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so
HOLY COW I DIDNT KNOW SANDOW WAS BORN IN MY TOWN
DANG WE GOT SOMETHING GOOD HERE
SANDOW
MONSOON
BRODIE
ME
COLIN DELANEY
Well Emma, now you got something else to show town pride for
One of the best Wrestling Channels on TH-cam, along with Wrestling Bios
Thank you for saying so. And Ryan is good company to be involved with
aka the origins of worked pro wrestling awsome video dave keep it rocking my man
Dope upload, love it when somebody does videos of the Gold Dust Trio. Your other History videos are great, as well.
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so. I am very glad that you enjoy the history videos, they are fun to make as well
Analytical and factual. These are the outstanding features of this channel. Other channels are too much opinionated and immature. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate the recognition. Thank you for the compliment
Lou Thesz has his book on Amazon/Kindle. Its amazing how a lot of those 100 year old catch wrestling books still have useful information. A lot you can just download. But what kind of MMA do you expect to learn from a 100 year old book? Ed "Strangler" Lewis went blind towards the end of his life. His eyes were infected from a dirty mat. He taught Lou Thesz everything he knew. Lou Thesz came from this era, where shooting was dying and working was becoming a thing. I recommend his book.
First video I’ve seen from this guy. Incredible job
Thanks so much. I appreciate you taking the time to say so
Dude I love such vids 🍃 Thanks for such a informative video
You are welcome. Thank you for enjoying them
Okay, that was impressive research, and impressive showmanship. Good pacing, but...
But you can't just tell us that they pushed mid-card guys with personality, and not name names or at least give us a taste of the wild stories long forgotten. This would become an important part of wrestling's mainstream success - every promotion that ever succeeded, had to make you care passionately about fights that'd never get anywhere near the gold.
And this is information that's really hard to come by. Most histories I've read start with: "And then one day, Gorgeous George invented the modern heel, out of nowhere." And with some digging, you can find the first foreign monster heel.
And that's about it.
Super cool to learn about these kinds of things, great video!
Thanks for saying so and yes I think this is a really interesting topic
Awesome video! Thank you very much!
I've heard some of this information and knew the names of these three men, but never put together and showing the connections like this. I didnt realize they pretty much controlled professional wrestling at the time. Great job once again, Dave.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it to be put in a useful context
Thanks Dave! Another excellent, informative video! This type of content is my favorite!
See ya at the next stream!
Glad you enjoyed it, the history videos are always fun
Dave always brings it i would love it if he did a Christmas based episode!
I have.. they tend to not get as many views
@@DaveKnowsWrestling oh ok cool
You really have a great channel,Such a eye opener as well!
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so. I try to have a different channel to talk about things in a different way. Always nice to be appreciated
Hey Dave could you do a video on the history of The Shining wizard please and thank you. Your videos are awesome and educational thank you.
9:23 I just now spotted a wild WCW above the 2 heads on that ticket.
Just come across this guy's vids pretty on point.
Hey, you did it! Great job as always.
Thank you very much for saying so
Dave im disappointed for you not ending with, and thats why you should never forget the.................golddust.....trio.
Also interesting their effects on the shoot side because a few years later catch wrestling was on the verge of being banned due to a few instances of combatants being killed during a catch wrestling match (or some rumors stay that boxing promoters of the time fabricated or caused the death through paid off refs to give catch wrestling a bad rap so boxing could take over) so they pretty much saved catch wrestling by going into a work.
The things that promoters used to say and do back then huh
@@DaveKnowsWrestling it was just a rumor but it is kind of weird catch wrestling has had more deaths than MMA and jujitsu put together you know and let's not pretend also most promoters are scumbags even to this day
In all seriousness, I feel like Indiana Jones coming across a golden historical artifact. And speaking of historical golden artifacts, I may never look at Goldust the same way again.
I think this is real interesting myself, the history of wrestling can be real fascinating
I remember the documentary back in the late 90s or early 2000 on A&E Wrestling, it was in that I first heard of the Gold Dust Trio. Glad to see this and being reminded again.
Glad you enjoyed the video
You looked real snappy in that 1920s outfit.
The trick is the plastic hat.. that's what really jazzes it up
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I would never have known it's plastic.
Yet another HIGHLY educational video!! How do you learn all this?? I can never seem to find two agreeing (or reliable) sources on anything!
It can be hard, but there are reliable places out there and when you do the research certain things just start lining up and that is usual a good place to start. Also the book The Fall Guys is great for this particular subject
Cool video dave!
I'm hoping there's more information on great channels like yours. I'm trying to find any promotional materials or pictures of my grandfather, who wrestled as a local mid-carder in the Southwest during the 30s
Doing the wrasslin’ Lord’s work, too many fans have forgotten the roots, myself included.
I look at it that forgetting your roots means you get to discover it again
@@DaveKnowsWrestling too true, too true. I’m always looking for matches from the past, the older the better, and am always amazed at how the craft has evolved. All the innovation and “less is more” in-ring action just really appeals to me.
Just wish more survived or was recorded to begin with. What I wouldn’t give to see a prime Hackenschmidt or Gotch match as it happened.
Please do a video on Joe Stecher.
Sorry I don't have the money for patron right now bc u make such great content that u should have way more paying customers then u do as soon as I can I will become a supporter thanks to u and ur team for always doing great work
Thank you, I appreciate the support even if it's just in kind words. And no team just me here
“2 men laying down and holding each other all night long “ 😂😂😂😂
Inoki was a latter day Goldust trio rolled up in one.
Dave
Another ☝️
Thank you Olive
Slam Bang Wrestling, Crash TV before Crash TV!
Fall Guys by Marcus Griffin and Ed Lewis: Facts Within a Myth by Steve Yohe provide great insights into this period in time.
Yes that is a great book
Great story and video
outstanding vid
Thank you for taking the time to say so
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Love what you do here, Dave.
thanks
where did you get the photo @6:48 ? Only asking because this looks like my old Hs
Good video
Dave, I've been watching some of the early WCW shows that were produced by Crockett Promotions. There was a guy that was tag team partners with Rick Rude called tge Raging Bull Manny Fernandez. Later, when WCW was sold to Turner, there was a job guy called Manny Fernandez. Any idea if they are the same guy? They don't look anything alike. Thanks for the great videos!
They are in fact the same. I also met him btw
@@DaveKnowsWrestling That's kind of curious. Why is it that guys like him, Brad Armstrong, Pistol Pez Whatley and Buddy Landel did well under the NWA banner, and not so well under WCW?
Well just remember the minds in charge of WCW, from Herd to Russo
@@DaveKnowsWrestling IF you can call Russo a "mind". And Herd wasn't much better. He gave Armstrong some of the dumbest gimmicks of his career. Wow, the more you think about it, WCW really did have only 1 or 2 DECENT managers.
I can see now that WWE had just as rich a lineage as WCW did it’s just it seems that modern WWE forgets that. I assume VKM named Dustin Rhode’s Goldust character in 95 taking the name from The Gold Dust Trio?
Yes his name is derived from it, but it had nothing beyond that
Awesome
I like a noisy ring with springy ropes like the AWA had.
WWE's now the OG main wrestling company. WWE owns all wrestling companies and that includes Japanese wrestling.
Wtf are you babbling about
10:32 who is that guy, he’s huge
It's a statue not a real person
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I see thank you