Thanks James! What is also scary is when a desperate pastor or other speaker absent-mindedly grabs one of the worship vocalist's mics from their stand. Not only do we throw off the EQ and gain tuning for that vocalist, we also have to contend with the possibility the mic itself walks away with the person. Trying to standardize and simplify the process for working it out on the fly is gold.
Coaching. After all, they don’t know the problem it causes unless someone tells them. Don’t be frightened to tell people stuff like that. Make a special stand for the announcements / random speaker mic, bottom half of an old mic stand works a treat. Show them where it is and leave the mic turned on if you like, all our guys know where to turn the mic on/off, it’s drilled into them. In short, you know how to do your job they should know how to do there’s.
Thank you so much! This has been my life for over 2 years. Different speakers. Different dynamics. Different techniques. Frustrating really. But this really really helps :)
A little coaching goes a long way. I tell my speakers, don’t talk to the person next to you talk to the person on the other side of the hall, THEN hold the microphone just under your chin. All the other stuff and bob’s your uncle. PS Great tutorial, I’m looking into this in more detail next week.
Clarity is king (though He is King, haha) at our church, and with a poorly treated room with bad resonances between 230-415, this is our handheld EQ (looks drastic, but it works well with most voices (also, I obviously can’t stand the bass heavy “radio voice”): HPF @ 208 -4.5 @ 232 Q .7 -6.7 @ 404 Q .8 -7.2 @ 5.38 Q 2.3 -6.7 @ 9.04 Q 2.4 This is on an XR18. There is the stock de-easer inserted, but it does very little before it does too much, so it is not much help, hence the HF cuts. Thanks for this important topic, and extremely well handled…the entertainment included was an excellent bonus. 😂
Hi James. Great info! Maybe this is a video idea. Do you have or could you make a quick non technical 5 minute tutorial that we could share with speakers and vocalists that shows them how and why to hold and speak into a microphone for best results?
Our system is not tuned very well so it is very “sub” heavy for vocals and those pops and plosives are super distracting. I use the dynamic eq built into the cl5 and just low shelf those louder pops and it makes a massive difference
I really love how detailed and in depth this video is! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
A Sound Empire Proclamation - Henceforth, the low shelf filter shall always be referred to as the "BBQ Fork".
I love it! 😂
Thanks James! What is also scary is when a desperate pastor or other speaker absent-mindedly grabs one of the worship vocalist's mics from their stand. Not only do we throw off the EQ and gain tuning for that vocalist, we also have to contend with the possibility the mic itself walks away with the person. Trying to standardize and simplify the process for working it out on the fly is gold.
yeah that gives me the shivers just thinking about it
Coaching. After all, they don’t know the problem it causes unless someone tells them. Don’t be frightened to tell people stuff like that.
Make a special stand for the announcements / random speaker mic, bottom half of an old mic stand works a treat. Show them where it is and leave the mic turned on if you like, all our guys know where to turn the mic on/off, it’s drilled into them.
In short, you know how to do your job they should know how to do there’s.
Great insight and nice job breaking it down into simple straightforward ways to handle the situation.
Thanks man!
Thank you so much!
This has been my life for over 2 years. Different speakers. Different dynamics. Different techniques. Frustrating really. But this really really helps :)
You're very welcome! I"m stoked the video has helped you!
Thoughts on Silk for an option similar to C6?
Thanks for video. Can i learn sound engineer from you?
Hey James.... Bill from High Rock. Good stuff. Keep 'em comin'! Hope you are well.
Thanks Bill! Great to hear from you!
LOL, You are having too much fun with Shelly's voice! :)
lol yeah i especially loved the number of dietary options required
A little coaching goes a long way. I tell my speakers, don’t talk to the person next to you talk to the person on the other side of the hall, THEN hold the microphone just under your chin. All the other stuff and bob’s your uncle.
PS Great tutorial, I’m looking into this in more detail next week.
Very sound advice! It's always best to get it right at the source (the source being the person speaking into the microphone).
Thank you very much!
We have a guy who holds the mic at his chest pointing at his chin. Thats just habit now. 😅
yeah unfortunately those habits can be really hard to break
Amazing job explaining how to use a handheld! The different demonstrations are great
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed them!
Clarity is king (though He is King, haha) at our church, and with a poorly treated room with bad resonances between 230-415, this is our handheld EQ (looks drastic, but it works well with most voices (also, I obviously can’t stand the bass heavy “radio voice”):
HPF @ 208
-4.5 @ 232 Q .7
-6.7 @ 404 Q .8
-7.2 @ 5.38 Q 2.3
-6.7 @ 9.04 Q 2.4
This is on an XR18. There is the stock de-easer inserted, but it does very little before it does too much, so it is not much help, hence the HF cuts.
Thanks for this important topic, and extremely well handled…the entertainment included was an excellent bonus. 😂
I'll tell Butch you said hi :)
Hi James. Great info! Maybe this is a video idea. Do you have or could you make a quick non technical 5 minute tutorial that we could share with speakers and vocalists that shows them how and why to hold and speak into a microphone for best results?
Thank you so much! That's a great video idea - I'll jot that down for sure!
Our system is not tuned very well so it is very “sub” heavy for vocals and those pops and plosives are super distracting. I use the dynamic eq built into the cl5 and just low shelf those louder pops and it makes a massive difference
Nice work. Clearing up the low end definitely makes a huge difference!
Hi Attaway Audio I love your channel. Can you share how to mix low energy or low power voice of singer and preacher ?
Hey there, I'm glad to hear it! That sounds like a good video idea. I'll look into making a video about this - thank you!
@@AttawayAudio We all have singers/preachers with good voices, but sometimes their power feels too low. cant wait your next video!
I love Vocal Rider. I use it on every mix/video I do.
Nice! It's definitely a must-have!