M3 Grease Gun and HK UMP Part 2

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    From Season 1 of TAC-TV, Ken Hackathorn and I compare the M3 Grease Gun with its modern day counterpart the HK UMP.
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  • @michaels5210
    @michaels5210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like. 45 ACP is the ultimate SMG round(for soft targets) because it won’t overpenetrate, it’s VERY easily suppressed, and it’s got that famous knockdown power.

  • @General.Longstreet
    @General.Longstreet 9 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Kens mustache is the business

    • @barnabywylde2224
      @barnabywylde2224 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Terry Wogan no woman has ridden it for the full 8 seconds.

  • @PpAirO5
    @PpAirO5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That mustache is sharper than a katana sword 😄

  • @Riceball01
    @Riceball01 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I was lucky enough to fire a grease gun once in Vegas and two things really stood out to me. One, I was expecting this thing to be very light, it always looked like a light weight gun to me so I was pretty surprised at how heavy and solid this thing actually was. The second thing that surprise me was the recoil, or (relative) lack thereof. Being chambered in .45ACP I was expecting it to kick pretty so I was really surprised at just how light the recoil actually was, probably a result of the weight of the gun.

    • @Bolo2028
      @Bolo2028 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've shot a grease gun as well, and I agree with you. They are really a pleasure to shoot.

  • @PpAirO5
    @PpAirO5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The grease gun has a nice sound when shooting, but the H & K UMP45 just looks awsome 😏

  • @Rosi_in_space
    @Rosi_in_space 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    3:36 "Muricans love .45 ACP, so sell zem guns in zeir beloved .45 ACP "

    • @RedSaint83
      @RedSaint83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly the comment I was going to make, without the accent though. It's pretty obvious that they produce the guns that sell the most, that's capitalism 101 baby.

  • @BATJACJW
    @BATJACJW 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    LAV you have one of the best youtube channels.
    thanks for bringing us these cool guns from history

  • @aocnetwork
    @aocnetwork 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Vickers can you get your hands on the full auto fg42 the second version! We would love to see you break that beast down!

  • @exgrunt-iraq-vetarmo4590
    @exgrunt-iraq-vetarmo4590 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey mate just a quick gday from a ex Australian infantry Iraq vet thats a big fan bro
    love all your videos and just want to say thankyou

  • @jmannz1
    @jmannz1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Grease Gun Rocks!!!

    • @secondthought2320
      @secondthought2320 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      My choice!

    • @bobkohl6779
      @bobkohl6779 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jodi Hansen had an M3 that would eat any ammo except wad cutters. new stuff doesn't impress me

  • @terrythomas5305
    @terrythomas5305 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Framing? Why do we need face close ups and NOT gun closeups?

  • @McBenx
    @McBenx 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi,
    Do you think you could find a Mauser-Selbstlader Model 1916? It's a semi auto WW1 german air force rifle.

  • @Shawtwahla
    @Shawtwahla 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is underrated - these two gentlemen together are a wealth of knowledge and have super interesting conversations. Thank you guys!

  • @nikolaypopov4751
    @nikolaypopov4751 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably one of the most professional channels on TH-cam.Good job guys! If you can chow us more russian guns because they are the top!

  • @mayukhsen8195
    @mayukhsen8195 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the look and feel of a grease gun

  • @Rambizzle454
    @Rambizzle454 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is awesome

  • @ThinTheHerd78
    @ThinTheHerd78 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Can we please just get a static camera? All the camera moves and edits ruin these videos. Other than that it's great.

    • @TheTigerblaze
      @TheTigerblaze 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThinTheHerd78 dammit! now i notice it :/

    • @TheTigerblaze
      @TheTigerblaze 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThinTheHerd78 dammit! now i notice it :/

    • @Tahara-Aichi
      @Tahara-Aichi 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that cameraman kind of sucks

    • @hakeemzahardi9207
      @hakeemzahardi9207 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea kinda hard to focus with all those camera movement

  • @jojothelawman2772
    @jojothelawman2772 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been looking for one for a trunk gun

  • @lefunnyN1
    @lefunnyN1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very interesting vid

  • @701CPD
    @701CPD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that the former SF guy likes the Grease Gun so much. When I asked Don Burgett, WWII combat veteran (Normandy, Holland, Bastogne, Southern Germany) what he thought of the Grease Gun, he called it "a piece of junk."

  • @justdanyeah2103
    @justdanyeah2103 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do the ump 9

  • @Mattebubben
    @Mattebubben 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If u ask me main reason for HK using the 45 alot is Civilan Export.
    The largest Civilan Weapons market for HK is in The US.
    The 45 is very liked in the US (even more so then the 9mm id want to say)
    As such and together with the fact that not every1 else makes guns for 45 made it a good business choice.

    • @usa-rb5fi
      @usa-rb5fi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most gun shops here in my area of the USA have told me that 9 and 45 are considered "high-demand" gun wise. 9 is very popular because ammo is cheaper, and usually the guns are cheaper than 45.

  • @merlin1phantom
    @merlin1phantom 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the UMP, just converted a USC over to the UMP. I have to completely agree 100% LOP is TOO LONG!! Compared to a M16A2 stock it's longer!

  • @Drownedinblood
    @Drownedinblood 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Maybe it's because HK realizes Americans(probably the worlds largest legal market for firearms) has a hard on for .45 ACP and will pick up their guns at their high prices rather than supposedly "learning lessons" in history. That's why 9x19mm is an obsolete cartridge used nowhere in the world right?

    • @everproofvt
      @everproofvt 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ulfbert i love these two disgustingly fat fucks talking about military shit.

    • @Drownedinblood
      @Drownedinblood 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      What legal reason is there to be out of shape? Never heard of this one.

    • @everproofvt
      @everproofvt 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      thiink you misplaced this question, i, as a fit marine, called them fat fucks

    • @Aravzil
      @Aravzil 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *****
      Don't feed this fucking troll dude. He knows.

    • @faffaflunkie
      @faffaflunkie 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ulfbert Why the _fuck_ would _anybody_ want a .45 acp *sub-machine* gun when you _don't need a one shot stop anyway?_

  • @TheMixmastamike1000
    @TheMixmastamike1000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first time you released this video I noticed you grind your teeth... Have you ever cracked a tooth and do you have and remedies... The Kriss vector and sig mpx and the other new one from shot show would be an awesome segment

  • @davosflare7405
    @davosflare7405 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His videos are like commercials for HK.

  • @snteevveetns
    @snteevveetns 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr vickers, you are silly! Which is better? A weapon mass produced for a time of war or a weapon which has decades to be developed and has advantages of modern technology and materials.... ;) thank you for your (continued) service to our country!

  • @efs8786
    @efs8786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:10 I dont think the German engineers looked at grease gun mags, I think they just continued the area of double stack, single feed magazines which exists in Germany since 1918 from the world's first smg, the mp18. Then continued in the mp35, 38 and 40. Obviously American engineers saw how effective single feed mags were, copied em for the grease gun and then h&k just went on with the tradition of German smg mags.

    • @VickersTacticalLAV
      @VickersTacticalLAV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong because none of those previous mags are as reliable as the Grease Gun mag. How do I know ? Because I own all of those guns; every one you mention

    • @efs8786
      @efs8786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok, sorry that I was wrong, the mp 18 didn't even had double stack, single feed magazines, it took luger magazines.But correct me if I am wrong, but I think the mp35 and mp38/40 do have double stack, single feed magazines. I really believe that the grease gun mags are much more reliable, and of course this will base on the fact, that the American engineers didn't wanted to make the same mistake that the Germans did 10 years before, or are there that huge differences between these two types of magazines? From my point of view if seems like the Germans invented this type of mag, then if was perfectionised by Americans and then this idea was reproduced by H&K.
      By the way I really appreciate that you run this awesome channel which is so informative and entertaining in the same time, and that you are communicating with your community. That's the first time I see this that exemplary on a channel that big. Keep goin💪💪

  • @loganpollock1689
    @loganpollock1689 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had the M3A1 and it was a better subgun than people give it credit for. I wish I could get one now.

  • @sovietturtle9881
    @sovietturtle9881 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i dont know about others but i love the M3

  • @Tdinkel1987
    @Tdinkel1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I get a Ken mustache?

  • @1945Ace1
    @1945Ace1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonder how many M3's you can get for the price of an H&K? Hypothetically speaking, if someone already had the machinary and material to build M3's nowdays.

  • @karlmiller1947
    @karlmiller1947 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Closed bolt is good, the grease gun has this opening to allow rain, snow, mud, dirt and rocks into the firing mechanism, not good IMHO.

    • @sorontar5770
      @sorontar5770 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what the dust cover is for, to keep out the snow, mud etc. Open bolt position prevents 'cookoffs' when putting a high volume of rounds through a gun in a short amount of time.

  • @Rick2010100
    @Rick2010100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got drunk by the camera..

  • @user-YuHaoHuang
    @user-YuHaoHuang 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    STILL IMO MP5 LOOKS MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL

  • @jamesellis2784
    @jamesellis2784 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wrappem up .

  • @dangerousfreedom4965
    @dangerousfreedom4965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MP5 is way better than a UMP!

  • @killabee-2384
    @killabee-2384 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love how there actually comparing the M3 to UMP NO SHIT THE UMP IS BETTER ITS a 60+ year old design

    • @grimhunter42
      @grimhunter42 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its not really a fair comparison but it is to measure how the grease gun can keep up to the new ump

    • @BaeBunni
      @BaeBunni 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well the thing is the m3 is still being used. the Philippines modified the M3 to the M3 Specops generation 2 which has a rail and a built in suppressor. And while a large portion is the price range since 40 m3's can be bought and modified for a modern smg, the grease gun still has merit in modern world.

    • @azkrouzreimertz9784
      @azkrouzreimertz9784 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      this show is really stupid but they get a hold of really nice guns so what can u do about it?

    • @redtra236
      @redtra236 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The AR-15 was designed over 60 years ago and it's still in use by civilians and the US military, although it has been improved.

    • @rubberwoody
      @rubberwoody 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not to mention the grease gun was designed to be cheap and arm millions of soldiers

  • @trombitasmilan8545
    @trombitasmilan8545 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys are in SO good shape! :D just like soldiers

  • @jonnybravo3055
    @jonnybravo3055 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always think the grease gun RPM was a little too slow .

  • @Haveyy
    @Haveyy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How can germans never make anything bad i dont get it

    • @hash-slingingslasher1374
      @hash-slingingslasher1374 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +MWG SP33DY
      Volkswagen.
      Hitler's lasting legacy, haha.

    • @Wavemaninawe
      @Wavemaninawe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Germans are responsible for the Eurovision Song Contest.

  • @Fre4kDahKid
    @Fre4kDahKid 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, very inner resting.

    • @hash-slingingslasher1374
      @hash-slingingslasher1374 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Fre4kDahKid
      I know when I learn something new, my innards feel very well rested.

    • @Fre4kDahKid
      @Fre4kDahKid 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Anarcho- Revolutionary
      hahahaha

  • @AZHighDesert2
    @AZHighDesert2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Less talkie, more shootie please!

  • @rdeeeezy
    @rdeeeezy 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic conversation between the two. They are definitely experts.

  • @dannz2603
    @dannz2603 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video but the camera work spoils it, I for one don't like the chopping and changing of views and would like to see more of the guns, but otherwise I learned some stuff from watching. Thank you.

    • @junekomarrano2059
      @junekomarrano2059 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dan NZ Spot on point sir. You said it best. My thoughts too.

    • @dannz2603
      @dannz2603 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Juneko Marrano
      Well I'm glad that it wasn't just me that thought this.
      Have a really good day and thanks for your comment :-)

  • @anderslarsen4100
    @anderslarsen4100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To old men slinging "dude" and "bro" around. Funny.

  • @therealborischang
    @therealborischang 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jibber jabber

  • @drasticfred
    @drasticfred 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    H&K is an British owned company. Money flows to the Brits.

    • @D_us_T
      @D_us_T 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its German, fuck British guns

  • @oddspaghetti4287
    @oddspaghetti4287 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    mp5 is actually so much better than the ump.

  • @twistedsis100
    @twistedsis100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nerds

  • @henningbrown5687
    @henningbrown5687 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't they just make one long video, instead of talking about it for two thirds of little "trilogy?" It's a waste of time to see these guys just gab about the guns.

  • @krissweitzer3196
    @krissweitzer3196 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To much talking not enough shooting!

  • @idbs1984
    @idbs1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    the ump is quite honestly the worst hk product ever produced

  • @stenandersson6704
    @stenandersson6704 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Slow old farts

    • @cardboard_shaft
      @cardboard_shaft 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      each of them have killed more people than you personally know

  • @jerryfanai1629
    @jerryfanai1629 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please talk a little bit less.... And into a bit more action

  • @Kasperbus
    @Kasperbus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vick, please hit the gym, stop eating so much, you shouldnt be this overweight and be in military shows. You can get back in shape, just hit some classes with your army buddies

    • @tastykimchiOFDOOM
      @tastykimchiOFDOOM 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should probably check out his more recent videos first haha.

  • @inakasumi4913
    @inakasumi4913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not fit to make video. Just quit.