I'm really excited to use it! I haven't opened the fixture kits yet because I wanted to show the unboxing. No one fully appreciates this table until they see it in person. Great job building quality products that make fabrication better, thanks.
Many people balk at the price of Fireballs fixture tables. I’d look at it like this. This table is as close to a reference slab that you can get, without buying the granite slab. Woodworking, furniture building, concrete form work and metal fabrication are just some of the areas that could benefit from having a near perfect reference build platform. Just make a sacrificial top, for when you want to use it for anything not metal fab. Thanks for the video!
Congratulations on your new welding table! Your son will be able to hand it down to your grandson, I would not be surprised to see your great grandson using it too. It's Made in America!
Nice job. I just went through this with a much smaller Sigmund table that’s 3 x 4 and weighs “only” 500 pounds. Fortunately I was able to use my stacker that lifts 880 pounds. Otherwise, your experience mirrors my own. I needed to take the same steps you did, and it also took me several hours. Getting the pallet off the bottom corners was the most difficult and time consuming thing. I had to push the top off the side of the pallet and saw the end off with my electric chain saw, then do the same to the other side. Then I could lift it enough to put the legs on. It’s interesting but it seems that none of these manufacturers give even one page of instructions. My problem is that there is a circle of holes on a ledge on the bottom, like yours, but only two are used with 16mm bolts. It was fun figuring out which holes were the right ones. Enjoy your table.
@@rustedox3174 even a smaller one is very useful. Once you get used to it you can begin to imagine everything you can make. Fixtures are easy to do on a mill and if you need something special that’s expensive, or not made, well, there you go!
I wish I had a shop so that I could own such a great table. Well done Sir, and your Son has exceptional skills in that little Cat. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Thanks and happy holidays. 20 years ago, I was making wood projects in the driveway of my garage-less apartment in the snow; I would not want to start there again. I am extremely grateful for my current setup and that my kids want to enjoy it with me.
May space is maxed out at the moment, but we are moving into a bigger house soon. One of these will be in the new house. What a beauty! So functional it makes welding fun again. Without a decent table, I struggle so much.
That's definitely a Very Sturdy, Welding Table. I'm sure it came with a decent price tag attached. But, IF you have a need for table like this. The price starts to become less important. I'm sure it will be a real asset in your shop 👍
Great video thanks for posting. I am awaiting delivery of my Fireball table with great anticipation. I am going to be building my own base and need to attach casters temporarily to the top. Could you tell me the size of the top of the legs, the part that directly contacts the table top, as well as the on center distance of the holes, you had mentioned M10 in the video for size? Keep posting!
Thanks for sharing. The table looks amazing. The guy in the other set-up video seems to use his table as a grinding bench, or catch all. It will be nice to see some videos of the table actually being used for fixturing and welding.
Very nice video! I'm sure that table will come in very handy. Lord knows I wouldn't mind having one here in the smithy. If I might make a suggestion, get a copy of the Ashley Book of Knots. Over the years, I've seen a consistent pattern amongst us builders - we've tended to forget that rope is amazingly handy stuff. It wasn't too long ago that rope was used to move the world, including heavy equipment like that. Knowing how to splice a line, making a grommet or lifting strap just the size you need, is incredibly handy around the shop, and today's modern plastic ropes are tremendously strong.
@@rustedox3174 The ABoK is considered the bible of knot-tying and well worth having around the shop. Modern lifting straps and ratcheting gadgets are nice, but more often than not.... good ol' rope works better because you can use it for other things, in other ways. Plus, it's a great thing to get kids involved. First Class Amateur has a great TH-cam channel that shows a slew of ways that rope can be used in everyday activities you'd never think about.
I was able to get a nearby business to come over as soon as the truck arrived and unload it with their forklift. Their forks weren't quite long enough, so I lifted and pulled it out far enough so that the forklift could get it from the side.
I love finding excuses to spend time with my kids, especially when they can gain new experiences and skills. I added the adjustable legs and caster options, so it was $8,900. There was a deal when I bought mine, where I got free shipping, unfortunately, that only applied to table, not to the heavy fixture kits.
I caught the table on a free shipping special. The accessories cost me $250 to ship from CA to ID. They weren't included in the free shipping, which was a little annoying because they came strapped to the top of the table. In theory, it saved me some money until I justified adding more fixtures.
I’m so glad this didn’t end poorly…. But legitimately why would you not block off under the table before installing the legs (a) and (b) why did you raise the legs to the desired height before installation, forcing yourself to lift the table even higher than necessary when your skid steer was already maxed out. Holy crap man. I know things are easier when you’re looking from a 3rd person perspective but this could have been really bad. Load shift, hose pop, operator mistake… all made nearly impossible with the addition of blocking underneath.
Hello from The Duke City. I’m looking forward to watching future videos with your new awesome welding table. Thanks for sharing! Is welding/fabrication/machining a hobby or is it in your line of work? Also where are you located?
I almost got transfered to Albuquerque years ago and was delighted that I was able to stay in Idaho. Glad I got to visit, but I wasn't ready to leave the mountains and reservoirs. My previous fabrication had all been for personal projects. As I picked up better skills and tools, I decided I would like to move toward getting a commercial fabrication shop setup. I would eventually like to hire someone and I figured if the collection of tools is good enough, there would be less temptation for an employee to run out and compete.
I just ordered several tonnes of pellet feed making equipment and it’s the same thing EVERY SHIPMENT! Wood costs too much so shipping boxes and pallets just don’t make the trip. If you are ordering heavy steel…get out your welder and a spray paint can! Though my ‘cheap’ streak would just never let me part with $11k (or even $9k for a blem) for a welding table unless fabrication was my whole life.
...until my skid steer tipped over. The tabletop without legs weighs 2,650lb and the Cat 226b3 is rated for 1,500lb. A bigger machine would have made the job much simpler.
The casting had some voids that got revealed when the table was machined flat. On mine, there are some patches of pits on the apron. Doesn't seem to have any negative affect, other than cosmetic, and that is very minor.
Took more time and hassle than it should have just to get it off the truck, very little evidence that a "pallet" had ever existed under it. Truck driver was sure cussing it.
@@rustedox3174 Had to come back to see what I said, only to realize I forgot, lol. But in hindsight, coming back here again, I now realize I'm also jealous. I'd definitely steal that out of your garage if I had a good truck and flatbed trailer, and a good forklift handy. I'd be silently in and out like an evil fart in the wind! 😎 Such a nice table.
Awesome! Exited to see what you build with it!
I'm really excited to use it! I haven't opened the fixture kits yet because I wanted to show the unboxing. No one fully appreciates this table until they see it in person. Great job building quality products that make fabrication better, thanks.
Awesome table. My favorite part of the video was seeing the kid run the skidsteer! Start'em early.
"Start'em early" is a motto that too many have forgotten or never learned. Train them and trust them and they do amazing things
Many people balk at the price of Fireballs fixture tables. I’d look at it like this. This table is as close to a reference slab that you can get, without buying the granite slab. Woodworking, furniture building, concrete form work and metal fabrication are just some of the areas that could benefit from having a near perfect reference build platform. Just make a sacrificial top, for when you want to use it for anything not metal fab. Thanks for the video!
Congratulations on your new welding table! Your son will be able to hand it down to your grandson, I would not be surprised to see your great grandson using it too.
It's Made in America!
That had not even crossed my mind, but is an exciting thought.
Nice job. I just went through this with a much smaller Sigmund table that’s 3 x 4 and weighs “only” 500 pounds. Fortunately I was able to use my stacker that lifts 880 pounds. Otherwise, your experience mirrors my own. I needed to take the same steps you did, and it also took me several hours. Getting the pallet off the bottom corners was the most difficult and time consuming thing. I had to push the top off the side of the pallet and saw the end off with my electric chain saw, then do the same to the other side. Then I could lift it enough to put the legs on.
It’s interesting but it seems that none of these manufacturers give even one page of instructions. My problem is that there is a circle of holes on a ledge on the bottom, like yours, but only two are used with 16mm bolts. It was fun figuring out which holes were the right ones.
Enjoy your table.
You'll keep finding new uses for the table, they're amazing. Glad you got one
@@rustedox3174 true. I also use some welding fixtures on my mill.
that is one more toy I'd like to get eventually@@melgross
@@rustedox3174 even a smaller one is very useful. Once you get used to it you can begin to imagine everything you can make. Fixtures are easy to do on a mill and if you need something special that’s expensive, or not made, well, there you go!
Good job, Derrick. When you fly solo, your problem-solving abilities will improve.
For better or worse that is true
I assume the skid steer operator is your son, he did a great job!
I wish I had a shop so that I could own such a great table. Well done Sir, and your Son has exceptional skills in that little Cat. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Thanks and happy holidays. 20 years ago, I was making wood projects in the driveway of my garage-less apartment in the snow; I would not want to start there again. I am extremely grateful for my current setup and that my kids want to enjoy it with me.
May space is maxed out at the moment, but we are moving into a bigger house soon. One of these will be in the new house. What a beauty! So functional it makes welding fun again.
Without a decent table, I struggle so much.
It has been amazing for woodworking projects as well. Good luck at you new place.
You know it's a great welding table when your out of breath unpacking the legs lol .... Congratulations on the table
Nothing quite like equipment that will still be kicking around long after I'm dead
That's definitely a Very Sturdy, Welding Table.
I'm sure it came with a decent price tag attached.
But, IF you have a need for table like this.
The price starts to become less important.
I'm sure it will be a real asset in your shop 👍
As I move toward getting a legitimate shop setup, I think it will be invaluable. thx
Great video thanks for posting. I am awaiting delivery of my Fireball table with great anticipation. I am going to be building my own base and need to attach casters temporarily to the top. Could you tell me the size of the top of the legs, the part that directly contacts the table top, as well as the on center distance of the holes, you had mentioned M10 in the video for size?
Keep posting!
2yrs late but I'm thinking by now it it would of looked blemished anyways? Great video!!
The blemishes I've added are more noticeable
Man are lucky! Years from now that will still be a desirable set up
It required more than a few sacrifices, but I love excellent tools that will last indefinitely.
Nice table man, totally jealous.
It has been awesome for metal and woodworking projects. Dual use if that helps in justifying it.
Bolt a clevice to side of table and set on its side. Attach legs. Bolt the clevice to top of table and flip over on legs. Thank you for the video
Thanks for sharing. The table looks amazing. The guy in the other set-up video seems to use his table as a grinding bench, or catch all. It will be nice to see some videos of the table actually being used for fixturing and welding.
I'm guessing he's got better skills but I'll keep learning
Very nice video! I'm sure that table will come in very handy. Lord knows I wouldn't mind having one here in the smithy. If I might make a suggestion, get a copy of the Ashley Book of Knots. Over the years, I've seen a consistent pattern amongst us builders - we've tended to forget that rope is amazingly handy stuff. It wasn't too long ago that rope was used to move the world, including heavy equipment like that. Knowing how to splice a line, making a grommet or lifting strap just the size you need, is incredibly handy around the shop, and today's modern plastic ropes are tremendously strong.
I love and know knots, but that's an impressive collection
@@rustedox3174 The ABoK is considered the bible of knot-tying and well worth having around the shop. Modern lifting straps and ratcheting gadgets are nice, but more often than not.... good ol' rope works better because you can use it for other things, in other ways. Plus, it's a great thing to get kids involved. First Class Amateur has a great TH-cam channel that shows a slew of ways that rope can be used in everyday activities you'd never think about.
Were you able to pull the table off the truck with your skid steer? Did it handle the weight long ways?
I was able to get a nearby business to come over as soon as the truck arrived and unload it with their forklift. Their forks weren't quite long enough, so I lifted and pulled it out far enough so that the forklift could get it from the side.
Very cool that you had your son help you with the skid steer. What did the blemish table cost you?
I love finding excuses to spend time with my kids, especially when they can gain new experiences and skills. I added the adjustable legs and caster options, so it was $8,900. There was a deal when I bought mine, where I got free shipping, unfortunately, that only applied to table, not to the heavy fixture kits.
We have 12 brand new welding tables with 19mm holes in our factory, the price is 1500USD.(EXW). The size is 54x30 inches.
I get the feeling you live in ID somewhere. We used to live in Eagle
You do know Idaho
Is that rust underneath the table? What’s that color?
No rust at all, just dark from the casting I believe
@ definitely getting one in that case! But the table doing good after 2 years of purchase mate?
@VCR0010 I have used it for so many tasks in addition to metal fabrication. I love it
Nice video subscribed. Jason at fireball makes great products !
Thanks
How much did they charge for shipping
I caught the table on a free shipping special. The accessories cost me $250 to ship from CA to ID. They weren't included in the free shipping, which was a little annoying because they came strapped to the top of the table. In theory, it saved me some money until I justified adding more fixtures.
Your son drives that better than some guys I’ve met.
I've seen some of those guys too
Those are great tables!
Worth the wait and the price
Flatness is a thing of beauty.
It's amazing, I'd love to see the tool that was big enough to get the job done
I’m so glad this didn’t end poorly…. But legitimately why would you not block off under the table before installing the legs (a) and (b) why did you raise the legs to the desired height before installation, forcing yourself to lift the table even higher than necessary when your skid steer was already maxed out.
Holy crap man. I know things are easier when you’re looking from a 3rd person perspective but this could have been really bad. Load shift, hose pop, operator mistake… all made nearly impossible with the addition of blocking underneath.
To be clear. No hate. Just my observation
Hello from The Duke City. I’m looking forward to watching future videos with your new awesome welding table. Thanks for sharing! Is welding/fabrication/machining a hobby or is it in your line of work? Also where are you located?
I almost got transfered to Albuquerque years ago and was delighted that I was able to stay in Idaho. Glad I got to visit, but I wasn't ready to leave the mountains and reservoirs. My previous fabrication had all been for personal projects. As I picked up better skills and tools, I decided I would like to move toward getting a commercial fabrication shop setup. I would eventually like to hire someone and I figured if the collection of tools is good enough, there would be less temptation for an employee to run out and compete.
@@rustedox3174 exciting plan! Good luck!
You can throw a plate of half inch between the castors and the leg bottoms
Probably won't get that ambitious now, thx
@@rustedox3174 Fair, I suppose that is a lot easier said than done, haha. Good stuff.
@Max Adamski it would be for me with my current tools and skills
You’d think a table like that would include a few accessories. Even the cheapo at Harbor Freight comes with a few clamps.
That would be nice
I pick up in middle pick up put end legs on
that would be a nice way of doing it
Looks like a great thing to store a bunch of shtuff on.
just like every other flat surface in the shop.
Why did you use Locktight,
Not needed?
You're right, the lock washer should be enough. Felt like going overkill that day
@@rustedox3174 I’ve seen studies that show lock washers don’t help.
I just ordered several tonnes of pellet feed making equipment and it’s the same thing EVERY SHIPMENT! Wood costs too much so shipping boxes and pallets just don’t make the trip. If you are ordering heavy steel…get out your welder and a spray paint can! Though my ‘cheap’ streak would just never let me part with $11k (or even $9k for a blem) for a welding table unless fabrication was my whole life.
Never say never, I think it will be useful beyond just metal fabrication. Although doing woodwork on this thing might get me burned at the stake.
If only the table had some holes in you could bolt a tab to and lift with a strap and the plywood would just fall out of the way...
That would have been fantastic and would have prevented some scratches I made on the legs
All you had to do was pick it from the middle with your forks spread out as far out as you could... would've made it a 30minute job...
...until my skid steer tipped over. The tabletop without legs weighs 2,650lb and the Cat 226b3 is rated for 1,500lb. A bigger machine would have made the job much simpler.
Blemish table ? What the meaning
The casting had some voids that got revealed when the table was machined flat. On mine, there are some patches of pits on the apron. Doesn't seem to have any negative affect, other than cosmetic, and that is very minor.
$8500
A nice system if you do a lot of that kind of work
Fireball did a nice job with it. It might be against some fabricators code, but it will get used on wood projects as well.
that plywood style pallet is not suitable for the weight of this table 😂😂
Took more time and hassle than it should have just to get it off the truck, very little evidence that a "pallet" had ever existed under it. Truck driver was sure cussing it.
In my day, we didn't need skid steers to lift our fixture tables. Back when men were men.
That cost a lot of money
It did
you're doing it wrong
Possibly
@@rustedox3174 Had to come back to see what I said, only to realize I forgot, lol. But in hindsight, coming back here again, I now realize I'm also jealous. I'd definitely steal that out of your garage if I had a good truck and flatbed trailer, and a good forklift handy. I'd be silently in and out like an evil fart in the wind! 😎 Such a nice table.