There seems to be some confusion regarding two topics - 1) Aryan Migration & 2) Existence of a man named Yeshua who came to be known as Jesus Christ. Here are some links for your perusal so that you don't comment the same thing again and again: economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/steppe-migration-to-india-was-between-3500-4000-years-ago-david-reich/articleshow/71556277.cms?from=mdr www.indianembassytehran.gov.in/eoithr_pages/MTc, www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/sanskritavestan.htm www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died caravanmagazine.in/perspectives/vedic-people-new-dna-evidence-india-history
@RahulBajaj-ov3hz I am not a Christian, buddy. None of my parents were. Their names were Ashok & Kanta. They were all Hindus. They just gave me a Scottish name. I make these videos because this "religion thing" could never get into my head. At least watch stuff before you shit on it.
I didn't delete your comment. Rather it was held for review by TH-cam for some reason. I published it and then replied to it. I love how ignorant people accuse people of "being funded", having "greed for money", etc. I have two points for you: 1. You understand that people have a mind of their own. I am sure you don't have one and it's someone else, probably at the shaakha, who tells you what to think. But other people have opinions - they don't always need to be funded. 2. Do you even know how funding of propaganda works? I have less than a thousand subscribers here and less than 5k followers on Instagram. Who, in their right mind, would pay me to do anything? Hell, my content doesn't even earn money from TH-cam. Thoda toh padh le bhai khud ko embarass karne se pehle.
Bro please don't believe in the nonsense which is shown in tv serials. The tv serials based on Ramayan show monkeys throwing stones in the sea, but in reality, the vanaras were not monkeys. They were 'van' means forest and 'nar' means man. I.e forest living men. And also, they didn't just throw stones to build ramasetu. They built it by tying large sized wooden logs and branches of trees together to build it. Just read the original version of Ramayana written by Valmiki once.
Please note, the Aryan invasion/migration theory has already been debunked. The vedic literature has been proved to be internal writings rather than externally influenced (as per you, Aryan). Get your research on history right.
@ashishhembrom3905 Read my comment again. I didn't say history from Vedic literature. I only said Vedic literature. And as for history that I have mentioned, it is about the Aryan invasion/migration, which you clearly got mixed up.
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ARYAN MIGRATION IS FALSE• Inconsistencies in Dating: The proposed migration timelines clash with the dating of Vedic Sanskrit (generally placed between 1500-1000 BCE). There wouldn't be enough time for a well-developed language like Vedic Sanskrit to emerge if the migration happened later. Detailed Analysis of Scenarios with Rebuttals: Scenario 1: If the Migration Occurred Around 2000 BCE • Contradiction: This scenario creates a significant gap between the migration and the established dating of Vedic Sanskrit (1500-1100 BCE). • Rebuttal: A well-developed language like Vedic Sanskrit wouldn't have enough time to evolve within such a short timeframe after a supposed migration. This inconsistency weakens the argument for a large-scale migration introducing the language. Scenario 2: If the Migration Occurred Between 3000-2000 BCE • Contradiction 1: This scenario widens the gap between the migration and Vedic Sanskrit. • Contradiction 2: It predates the Andronovo culture (2100 - 1200 BCE), a potential source region for Indo-European speakers. • Contradiction 3: This scenario suggests the Indus Valley Civilization was largely built by the "Aryans," contradicting the migration theory itself, which proposes the "Aryans" encountered a developed civilization upon arrival. • Rebuttal: These contradictions cast doubt on the feasibility of a large-scale migration at this time period. The lack of archaeological evidence for such a migration further weakens this scenario. Scenario 3: If the Migration Occurred Between 1800-1500 BCE (Mostly proposed) • Contradiction 1: This scenario contradicts archaeological findings like the Sinauli site (2000-1800 BCE) which shows elements associated with the Vedas pre-dating the proposed migration. The site has yielded evidence of chariots, helmets, and swords, all artifacts commonly associated with Indo-European cultures. This presence of these elements pre-dates the proposed migration timeline for the Aryans. • Contradiction 2: Genetic evidence suggests a degree of continuity in the populations of Northwest India during the proposed migration period, arguing against a large-scale replacement of the existing population. • Rebuttal: These contradictions highlight the inconsistencies in the timeline and the lack of evidence for a massive population displacement. These contradictions highlight the inconsistencies in the timeline and the lack of evidence for a massive population displacement. The presence of these Indo-European cultural elements at Sinauli before the proposed migration weakens the argument that the Aryans introduced them. Opponent's Proposals and Rebuttals: • Earlier Existence of Vedic Sanskrit: Some argue for an earlier date for Vedic Sanskrit to bridge the gap with the migration. However, there's no clear archaeological or linguistic evidence to support this claim. • R1a1a Haplogroup: The presence of the R1a1a haplogroup (associated with Indo-European speakers) in South Asia is used to support the migration. However, this genetic marker could be explained by earlier migrations or independent development of Indo-Aryan languages within the region. Genetic evidence suggests some gene flow, but not necessarily a large-scale population replacement. R1a1a might have been in Indian subcontinent before the proposed migration of Aryans or might originated there. Evidence for Indigenous Development: • Archaeological Continuity: Sites like Bhiranna( 3500-2200 BCE one of the oldest site), Mehgrah (7000-2600 BCE), Lothal (2400-1900 BCE), and Rakhigarhi (5500-1900 BCE) show cultural continuity across time periods, suggesting internal development rather than a sudden cultural shift caused by a large-scale migration. The presence of elements associated with the Vedas in pre-migration archaeological sites further weakens the migration theory. Additionally, symbols like Swastikas (exact dates vary, but found across Indus Valley Civilization sites) and seals depicting deities (both male and female) dating back to at least 3500 BCE have been found at Indus Valley Civilization sites, suggesting these concepts were well-established within the indigenous population and predate the proposed Aryan migration (2000-1500 BCE). Fire altars found at Kalibangan (2800-2600 BCE), Lothal (2400-1900 BCE), and Banwali (2000-1700 BCE) may further highlight the continuity of ritual practices in the region. • Recent excavations at Rakhigarhi revealed a 5,000-year-old jewelry-making factory, showcasing advanced craftsmanship in ancient South Asia. This finding suggests a well-established culture with sophisticated metalworking skills predating the proposed Aryan migration around 1800-1500 BCE. • This revision includes tentative dates for the Indus Valley Civilization sites and the Indus seals depicting deities. It emphasizes the significant time gap between these findings and the proposed Aryan migration, strengthening the argument for indigenous development. • Genetic Continuity: Reports suggest genetic continuity in the Indus Valley Civilization over 8000 years, challenging the idea of a large-scale migration replacing existing populations. • Linguistic Analysis: Linguistic analysis of Dravidian and Indo-Aryan languages suggests long-term contact and potential substrate influence, which aligns better with a model of interaction and internal development rather than a complete linguistic replacement. • Lack of Evidence for Migration: The absence of strong archaeological or linguistic evidence for a massive influx of people weakens the Aryan migration theory. There are no clear archaeological signatures of a large-scale migration event. The Term Aryan The term first appears in the Vedas, suggesting an origin within South Asia rather than with migrating people. Assigning "Aryan" to the Sinthashta culture (2100-1900 BCE) lacks clear linguistic support, challenging its application to archaeological contexts. There is no evidence of Sinthashta speakers calling themselves “Aryans”. Fact that we have NO evidence of what language they spoke there and same goes for Andronovo culture. The Indo-Iranian branch should given a new term. Vedic Sanskrit(Vedas) is still oldest known the Branch indo-iraninan so term needs a logical term which should have a balanced credit. - Max Müller's interpretation linking Aryans with invasions and racial hierarchies is criticized for Eurocentric bias and lack of empirical evidence. Conclusion: The Aryan migration theory faces significant challenges with inconsistencies in dating, lack of strong archaeological evidence, and emerging genetic and linguistic data. While the presence of Indo-Aryan languages and some cultural elements suggests interaction, the evidence points towards a more nuanced understanding that emphasizes internal development, cultural exchange, and potentially smaller migrations over time Shifting Focus: The focus in this field has shifted towards alternative models that consider: • Cultural Interaction: Interaction and exchange of ideas between existing populations could explain the spread of cultural elements associated with the Vedas. • Internal Development: The possibility that Indo-Aryan languages emerged within the Indus Valley Civilization or nearby regions is gaining traction (current evidence) • Smaller Migrations: Smaller migrations or interactions with populations carrying the R
Okay, buddy. Didn't have to copy paste a full article - just send the link like a normal person. Now hear me out - even if steppe migration timeline is off, migration still happened. And how does this change what I said about the magical stuff in Ramayan?
"Migration still happened" Did you read anything he said? The migration theory is no longer at the forefront of possible explanations for what happened during the time period. Be a little more open to comments which is clearly not the case, evident from the hints of passive aggression in your replies. Again, you should read more about why the aryan migration theory is most likely a farce.
@@TheIanPanda go see the genetic report of India.... r1a1 dna said to be only availble to aryans of north India was found in south Indians... source:NIH... which just proves the theory was always bogus.... it was a theory just to divide india into north and south....
Yes. It's totally false to compare the 2. Jesus was historical, Mohammad was historical, Adi Shankaracharya was historical, Ramanujacharya was historical. But Allah is mythological, Angel Gibrael is mythological, God is mythological, Ram is mythological, Shiva is mythological. These can be legendary (a mixture of mythology & history) but far from being actually historical. Flying donkeys in Qur'an, changing water to wine in Bible, splitting the Nile in Old bible, flying chariots & someone carrying a mountain by his hand in Ramayana... These things are 100% Mythological and there's not a single evidence to prove any of these. Religious people should understand that History & Science does not work depending on their "emotions & faith". They can "believe" whatever the hell the want to believe in. In no way will such things be accepted by other people. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
3:24 Ques;tioning is e;asy. F;inding a;nswer is h;ard. No m;atter wh;at we d;o, we c;an't pr;ove Ra;mayana archae;ologically as the tim;e p;eriod is m;uch o;ld.
Is that the only thing standing in the way? What about the fact that Ramayan has a bunch of magical and fantasy elements, which can't be true - which means even if those characters ever existed, they have been heavily allegorised/ exaggerated. That makes the story mythology, NOT history. It's as simple as that. Same applies to Jesus Christ - the moment you bring in miracles and resurrection, it stops being historical and goes into the realm of mythology.
@dustudent1637 - No, buddy. That's how history works. Homer's epics Iliad and Odyssey are not considered history. Neither can our epics be - because there's no EVIDENCE.
Citing some links for you to check out: economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/steppe-migration-to-india-was-between-3500-4000-years-ago-david-reich/articleshow/71556277.cms?from=mdr www.indianembassytehran.gov.in/eoithr_pages/MTc, www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/sanskritavestan.htm caravanmagazine.in/perspectives/vedic-people-new-dna-evidence-india-history Aryan Invasion theory was dropped, not migration. And even if we refute all these evidence and say that Hindus were always there, then also - there's ZERO evidence that Ramayan was real.
@ggautamr4677 - Don't believe it. Who cares! I just mentioned that contemporary writing of that period mention a man of that description - didn't you watch the video?
What is your argument exactly? Nobody saw Modi being born either. But he exists and he is a man. Do you think I am a Christian? Didn't you watch the video? This is a poor way to troll, buddy!
I understand your point. I was atheist myself before (currently not). I don't recommend anyone to believe in what literally written in this ancient text. Like they are all pov in someways. Mostly they are metaphorical, kinda of like poem. The concept of god is like an 'conspiracy theories' The more you believe in the more it will feel like this is true The less you believe in the more you feel yaa that's all just made up and fake. Atlast let's just live with peace and harmony, no matter who or what you believe in.
@@FluxinateMythology means pure fictional story, history means pure factual scenario, a legend has some aspects that are factual and some that are fiction
@@HDB41I think they're "highly extrapolated" legends meaning a conflict of 2 villages of a thousand people over lands dispute inspiring someone to write Mahabharata(in which crores of people have fought)
" I hate it when people do not call their own beliefs mythology and instead call it history, when people do not blasphem against their own beliefs and call it fake, and reject my beliefs in evolution as truth no matter what, just because I give them proof. Grrhhh other people believing in what they want and say that Mahabharat is history and not mythology, grrrrhhhhhh arrrrgggghhhhh, people saying that they do not believe that evolution is true even if I give them proof arrrrgghhhhhhh. Also I support everyone's freedom of speech and right to their own opinion. " Wow, Atheists make so much of sense, getting angry when we speak our beliefs, but say we are easily offended when we get angry when they speak their beliefs, and saying that they believe in Freedom of Speech and Everyone's rights to say whatever they want as long as it is respectful and does not hurt others, and their rights to expression their own opinions and beliefs, but when someone speaks something that these people do not believe in, or rejects something that they do believe in, then they get all like " arrrrgggggghhhhhhh! " Wow no hypocrisies whatsoever or at all.
Agree. Par waise current scenario mein Jai Shree Ram bhi bas political naara ban ke reh gaya hai. Ram jaisa banna koi nahi chahta. Bas Ram ke naam pe Raavan wale kaam ho rahe hain.
@@Shiningbracelet yes obviously will blame the religion when it will promote war , hate , casteism etc get all hindus scriptures a glance . all you find is a bloodshed , !!
Title: In this series, I am mad at you for not believing in the Evolution and Aryan Invasion Theory that of which I believe in, but make fun of others beliefs and tell them they are wrong and feel free to even make fun of them.
Sure, Jay Shree Ram - as long as you admit he's a legend, a part of a great piece of mythology. I am all for appreciating the good things about his character, but if you say Ramayan is historical, I will laugh at you. No offense.
What funny language are you writing? Does your keyboard insert 'ok' after every sentence arbitrarily? Why would I debate with Sadhguru, a conman? Also, if you're so fond of meditation, do it yourself - stop giving unsolicited advice.
@@TheIanPanda better believe in a legend then to believe of a middleastern man, who knows if he had mental disorders and heaven and hell is just fiction, there aren't any proof about them anyway and it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not the main aim religion isn't just to answer who was creator, it is much more than that, it gives the culture and shape to the land, gives connection to what your forefathers were, gives you an identity (just look at identity crisis of pakistan), and unity through out the diverse land of bharat. Also the concept of religion of western and eastern philosophies are totally different. one focuses on fear of judgement day and other focuses on attaining moksh by living a virtous life
Christianity is not completely based on those ideas alone... It is also based on teachings like sacrifice is the greatest virtue, love thy enemy, 10 commandments etc...when u r comparing religions, just do a comparison on the teachings rather than on the so called "miracles".
All religions talk about good values and virtues. The video isn't a comparison - and if Christianity isn't about Christ, then why don't you believe in Islam? Same God.
The same God, may be, but different teachings...that's the point...I don't believe in their God because there are many people who are misguided by the teachings of that religion or maybe the teachings are corrupted... similarly the other religion which says, for example, you can take whatsoever path to reach your aim... I cannot teach my children that because tomorrow they will cheat in exams, clear it and say our God approves of it. Jesus Christ made his life a message .. His last prayer was to forgive his enemies. Now you can argue saying that it never happened... ok there's no prob..but the teachings or the message that he gave is what matters and what I personally hold as important. If you are willing to give away your life for the sake of others then you are a God... That's ultimately the message. And i don't think there is any other religion which teaches that.
@@TheIanPanda In Christianity the miracles are secondary.. you eliminate all the miracles from the Bible and still you will tend to respect the character of Jesus Christ. Real christians are not exactly trying to learn how the miracles are done..they are trying to reach a level in life where it is possible for them to love the people who hate them. Also, the crucifixion is far far far more important than the resurrection.
You don't think there's any other religion that teaches that? Okay, I have a question. Were you born Christian? If yes, then you were not even allowed to explore other theologies, even for academic purposes. So it is rich when you say other religions don't teach it. You don't know any other religion. Your faith is the result of early indoctrination. And I don't have a problem with you practicing your faith - the problem comes when you start saying it is the only true way. Hope you understand the point I am making.
@cj-KL08 - Okay, then why do you need to spread the religion and use the miracles as a justification to convince people that Jesus was son of God? These philosophical takes would be valid if your faith wasn't so commoditized. Anyway, that's not even what the video is about.
Your concept might be true….but you need to do more research before putting the video….Half knowledge will land you in trouble…. Also, no person born on this planet is a god or no god born on this planet is a human which explains that your mind is your friend and enemy….when it controls you then you are a human and when you control it then you are closer to that eternal laws of nature or so called God or the force …! Neither jesus nor ram nor krishna was a god who arrived from the skies , but a human born on this planet ruled the people, understood the existence of oneself rather than leaving the same planet empty handed and gave the knowledge of true self and purpose of life…person lifting the mountain, breaking the river, resurrection of a person is for those followers who gets washed away and believes in faith rather than true understanding
What needs more research according to you? All you gave was religious gyaan. I don't deem that scientific or worth researching. If you think I quoted some wrong information, I'll be happy to check. But otherwise, what new information are you providing?
@abhish8805 - So according to you, only people with science degrees can be rational? As as far as "before I even consider" is concerned, who are you? You don't wanna believe in what I'm saying, then don't. You think the world is waiting for YOUR validation and approval? Such entitled outlook.
Lol guy has literally pinned a comment with links to articles where genetic research supports steppe pastoral migration hypothesis. But I guess it's too much work to read, right? 🤣🤣
What you believe in, does not matter. Science and evidence point out towards Aryan migration theory. That is different than Aryan Invasion theory. There was no invasion, agreed. But there definitely was migration and intermixing of the natives with the Aryans to various extent.
evide3nce is there that Lord Jesus existred on earth. don't mock a true god Lord Jesus is the only Lord who rose up after 3 days of death. ram didn't rose up,nor any other god so,don't make your gods a suibject of mockery here
@TheIanPanda when you are highlighting your God,it is OK. But when I am highlighting my God,what is your problem? Your religious belief is popular only in India But most beloved religious belief in the whole world is Christianity So,don't vomit illogical words.And also get a full knowledge
@ayanpahari3393 - Did you even watch the video before commenting? Lol! I did not highlight any God. I am an atheist, buddy. I speak about rationality. I clearly said that while there's recorded evidence of a religious character like Jesus, such evidence does not exist for Ram. And it is also a fact. there's literally no real evidence of Jesus's resurrection. You can believe whatever you want to. But when you start saying my God is real and your's isn't to people, you are being stupid. And that's the kind of thinking that ultimately leads to religious extremism. And I stand against religious extremism.
@TheIanPanda you liked a comment jai shree ram Specially,in your thumbnail,You mentioned Jesus as a normal but ram as a God How do you call yourself an atheist? You are a hindu
Firstly, I didn't like any comments. Secondly, my thumbnail is designed for my audience, which being in India is 80% Hindus. But all of this is irrelevant, since you jumped to defend Christianity, without even watching the video? By continuing this argument, you're just making your stupidity and ignorant more conspicuous.
Your theory of migration itself is debunked so what you believe or refuse to believe does not matter. You are just another youtuber who is trying to make your living just by presenting your beliefs and your opinions. The only good thing is that you choose Hinduism, try choosing Christianity and Islam for that matter and call it mythology and fictional and try to prove that by your logic, opinion and theories and see what happens then ..
@@TheIanPanda they come from east afghanistan or west pakistan not from steppe.... coming from steppe is just isnt possible geographically due to himalayas and hindu kush mountains....
Who debunked ?? shinde and his team .. ?? there study paper itself doesn't reveal much about debunking migration .. yes there interview claims were dubious which was much influenced by the sitting govt. ideologies .. !! shinde and team took u turn from there 2018 final report while publishing there 2019 harrapan genome ancestory report study report.
Do you just comment without watching the video? God of this land? It doesn't matter which specific delusion your forefathers subscribed to, I'm saying they were all wrong.
Still there is no proof for evolution, As far as know it was theory without any logical proof. same way Sri Ram was human, but he will become god for me bcs he have values which i don't. As per your logic if i say something bad (i don't want use the word) about you should not hurt bcs your good. You people take mic and hurt other beliefs any belief i mean christinaity or hindu or etc we should not react to it. Go to any lady/boy and say s**t/b*****d ask her/him to not react bcs she is not a s**t/b****d
Good to have different point of view. Even I decline the fictional things from our epics. I bow down to Ram because of character not because he is with me, blessing me or he is God. And for your information Sanatan supports both theist and atheist philosophies. Don't revolve your thoughts around current Hinduism. It is currupt. The OG sanatan lost somewhere because of Ibrahamic impositioning. I am suprised to see those internet articles yet you haven't seen any article debunking aryan invasion theory.
This whole "current Hinduism is corrupt" argument has one problem - any religion (if you agree that God is a man-made construct) is what the people practice. So regardless of what you think it was designed as, Hinduism is what the people do with it today. Same logic applies to caste system as well. And as far as Aryan Migration - here's a recent update on that: caravanmagazine.in/commentary/what-media-reporting-ancient-dna-results-says-about-our-times The Indian scientists are giving contradictory statements from the findings of the papers they themselves were a part of. Why? That's easy to guess - to align with the Sangh parivaar. But hey, you believe whatever suits you.
@@TheIanPanda Brother, I said Hinduism is corrupt. Hinduism never existed before the invasion of Islamist rulers. Corruption started even before the invasion and it is because no one is interested to know the goals of Sanatan. I am not seeing you should know cause it's an individual choice. Because of incomplete understanding, the current so-called "Hinduism" is corrupt. There is no enforcement of ideology in Sanatan.
Nopes . in ramayan atheists are compared to thieves . in veda it is asked to kill & Punish all non vedic believers . bro read your scriptures first .. !! it is neo - hinduism which is claiming theist and athiest .
Let me see how much unbiased you are? Make videos on Mohammed and Islam as well with same criticism. If you cannot, accept the Hinduphobia existing today and put a prominent disclaimer in every video of yours that you refuse to criticise Islam because of fear of extremists.
Explore the channel. There's already video where I have said that about Islam. And guess what - no Muslim threatened me. I am bored of people like you coming up and talking as if Hindus are victims. Just this week, a mosque was attacked, a church was attacked, Muslims were lynched - all by Hindu outfits, but you want to believe there's Hinduphobia. Hindutvavadi Hindus are the perpetrators here, not the victims.
@@TheIanPandayeah your right I believe good and bad people are everywhere and in every religion or country But Hindus always victimize themselves Like their own TH-camr said it (Dhruv Rathee)
The real comparison would be between Noah and Ram/ Krishna. Jesus was a real perosn who existed. But Noah and the flood is mythology. In fact much of the old testament legends of adam and eve and Abraham are mythology
There's no comparison here. I just dealt with two different analogies based on someone's comment. And the topic is the magical stuff in these books, which I deem fictional. This video is not a study of religion at all.
@abhish8805 - Show me your degree in theology before giving gyaan in the comment section. 😂 I love trolls like you - you come and desperately leave multiple comments on my videos, and then tell me you won't believe me. Then just go away from the video - why are you engaging with it?
Abhijit Chavda is NOT a historian. His credentials are fake. Aryan invasion theory is regarded as incorrect, but steppe pastoral migration has been supported by genetic evidence. Linguistic studies also point to the same.
Sorry that i took u seriously 😂. Plz do ur work on whatever u believe in if it means you believe that God Doesn't exist. Or i believe the god exists. Truth is we both agree believers of what we don't actually no.
Are you atheist or agnostic, sir? I would highly recommend you check out inspired philosophy's video on the historic evidence of Jesus's resurrection, sir! Second would be to hopefully debate him (inspired philosophy) on the matter... Also last question, what sort of making you refuse the existence of a creator? Is it evidence? Secondly like let's say the creator of this universe whoever may it be shows up to you...would you be open to believe? my question is simple words is..if there is solid evidence of any religion....would you be atleast open to it? or deny it? even if it's true? Thank you!! Have a nice day
I am a rationalist. I believe that no religion has any true idea about a creator. Call it whatever you want. If a creator appears some day, sure, I'll believe there's a creator. But the religions would still be man-made delusions. Because think about it, all religions believe that humans are somehow special. But in the scheme of the universe, or even earth for that matter, we are small and insignificant. So thinking that someone who created all this, is sitting somewhere watching us and hearing prayers and judging our actions - that's just stupid. And no, I don't want to "debate" with anyone. I believe religions are stupid but if someone wants to practice his/her delusion and keep it to themselves, I don't mind. The problem comes when people want others to align with their delusions.
@@TheIanPanda I see, I'm glad you're at least open-minded unlike many other atheists...but i would highly recommend you read the book "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel and at least watch the video I recommend about the historic evidence of the crucifixion and the resurrections by inspired philosophy as he made a ton of good points...if you could refute them then that would be nice to hear as well
@@Alphain Why would I go to so much pain to believe in these things? I sure will check this video out when I have the time, but I recognize that a lot of people have put in a lot of work to validate Christian beliefs - it still does not make them true.
Funny. A MAN called Yeshua did exist, buddy. I'll give you that. But he was neither born of a virgin, nor did he come back after dying. The miracles are all made up - and if you disagree, then you'll have to concede that all miracles happened - even the ones described in Ramayan.
Okay buddy. I could also claim Krishna is real - you will meet him some day and you'll have to explain why you let a bearded Jewish man influence you away from Krishna.
An american professor of University of Michigan told me that every infrastructure and the the concept of a new religion was chalked out to be different from existing Hinduism(then). Like if Hinduism has idol worship, the new one should not have it. If like the churches in Europe looks like a certain way, now the churches in Usa lets say should look different. So it can be inferred that all of it is just to dissent.
I am currently struggling between Atheism and Hinduism Would love to have a some conversations with you regarding some of my doubt I really wanted to have a discussion but there no way around and the rest of the people get easily offended
No need to ask anybody. You are a free person. Try and experiment with whatever you feel is right for you... Explore, dig deep and evaluate, if you are not feeling it you should most likely quit it... Personally, I'd say religion(of any kind, preferably one that offers more liberty) is much better than atheism which can get very depressing with time(speaking with experience here)
he talks as if he is God!! N knows everything…… Be aware one day you have to meet God… you will know how small you are…. then!! Trying Poor cheap ways to get views….. sorry bro!!
Which God will I meet? I think you mean Jesus. But my folks thought I'd meet Shiva. Muslims think I would meet Allah. Ever considered the possibility that you are wrong and you're spending your life in a delusion? I already know I'm small and insignificant. It's you who think you were made in "God's image". Stay tuned for my next video - it is gonna cover Christianity!
Sir, all I would say is, calling the son of god as "nonsense" , didn't sound right to me... I respect your views, thoughts and facts, but straight away defaming Jesus and our supreme lord in heaven...was just not right as few people have been sent to jail, just because they cracked a harmless joke on a Hindu deity. sir, I don't care, what u say about other religions.... but all I would humbly ask is, for you to be a little cautious for not hurting people's sentiments and beliefs .
Don't watch the video. Simple. But if you do, then be ready for your beliefs to be questioned. Can't handle that? That's a YOU problem. When Christians go around calling every other God of every other religion "false Gods", why do you expect others to respect your God? Because it says so in the Bible? Why do you believe the Bible and not Greek Mythology? You are Christian only because you were indoctrinated early. If this outraged you, please don't watch the next video I'm going to drop.
@@TheIanPanda Sir, Your dismissive and provocative response only serves to further disrespect and inflame the situation. While you have every right to question and critique, doing so with outright insults is unacceptable. Criticism can be done respectfully. Disparaging someone's deeply held beliefs reflects a lack of basic respect. When Christians express their faith, it is to share, not to dismiss others. Dismissing my beliefs as indoctrination undermines the personal experiences that many, including myself, have gone through. You accuse Christians of calling other gods "false," yet your defense of your opinions in the same dismissive manner makes you no different. If someone made a disgusting claim about something you hold dear, wouldn't you feel the same anger and frustration? Wouldn't you seek respect? You posted this video for what? To be seen, to be heard, to be liked? It was meant to reach people. Disrespecting others' faiths only deepens divides. If your goal is open dialogue, start by respecting those you engage with. Lastly, if you think my beliefs are not worth respecting, then your videos are not worth watching. Don't worry, you won't find me watching them.
@Eshita_Joseph - Could have just left. Why waste so much energy typing such long comments. I just said the son of God bit is nonsense - that's not an insult. All religions except Christianity have the same opinion. Anyway, I really don't know who watches or doesn't watch my video, till they comment. So...best if luck for your future endeavours! 😂
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There seems to be some confusion regarding two topics - 1) Aryan Migration & 2) Existence of a man named Yeshua who came to be known as Jesus Christ.
Here are some links for your perusal so that you don't comment the same thing again and again:
economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/steppe-migration-to-india-was-between-3500-4000-years-ago-david-reich/articleshow/71556277.cms?from=mdr
www.indianembassytehran.gov.in/eoithr_pages/MTc,
www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/sanskritavestan.htm
www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died
caravanmagazine.in/perspectives/vedic-people-new-dna-evidence-india-history
@RahulBajaj-ov3hz I am not a Christian, buddy. None of my parents were. Their names were Ashok & Kanta. They were all Hindus. They just gave me a Scottish name. I make these videos because this "religion thing" could never get into my head. At least watch stuff before you shit on it.
I didn't delete your comment. Rather it was held for review by TH-cam for some reason. I published it and then replied to it. I love how ignorant people accuse people of "being funded", having "greed for money", etc.
I have two points for you:
1. You understand that people have a mind of their own. I am sure you don't have one and it's someone else, probably at the shaakha, who tells you what to think. But other people have opinions - they don't always need to be funded.
2. Do you even know how funding of propaganda works? I have less than a thousand subscribers here and less than 5k followers on Instagram. Who, in their right mind, would pay me to do anything? Hell, my content doesn't even earn money from TH-cam.
Thoda toh padh le bhai khud ko embarass karne se pehle.
Bro please don't believe in the nonsense which is shown in tv serials. The tv serials based on Ramayan show monkeys throwing stones in the sea, but in reality, the vanaras were not monkeys. They were 'van' means forest and 'nar' means man. I.e forest living men. And also, they didn't just throw stones to build ramasetu. They built it by tying large sized wooden logs and branches of trees together to build it. Just read the original version of Ramayana written by Valmiki once.
Please note, the Aryan invasion/migration theory has already been debunked. The vedic literature has been proved to be internal writings rather than externally influenced (as per you, Aryan).
Get your research on history right.
Sorry history from vedic literature? That's the same as History from the Quran, Bible or the Torah or history from the Illiad for that matter.
@ashishhembrom3905 Read my comment again. I didn't say history from Vedic literature. I only said Vedic literature.
And as for history that I have mentioned, it is about the Aryan invasion/migration, which you clearly got mixed up.
They are all lies buddy - every holy book claiming to have knowledge about God, the creator - including the Quran. They are all man made.
🤣🤣🤣 There are a lot of Non_Religious independant books, articles & videos that have debunked the idea of either
👌the existence of such a person,
🙏or the place of such events
✊️or the timing of these events...
...so forget the manipulations & distortions on "What & why if anything like this happened..."
🤣🤣🤣 Jews had stories of such a Messiah with long hair & beard entering Jerusalem on a 🫏 donkey, centuries before this is claimed to have happened... and all f th stories in the 📕 are either from older books or collected from local folk tales.
👌🙏✊️ Making God's out of heroes was, is & will always be the oldest reason for religious beliefs,
👏👏👏 The aabrahamics just went a step further, laying out rules, getting offended, discrimination against non believers etc... all of these etched into each staunch believer... exactly as is from their 📕 📗 📘 respective books.
🤣🤣🤣 If you truly want to study a belief or concept... 🪔🙏 Go talk to the hundreds of thousands of pastors & bishops converting people in South America, Africa & Asia... by fooling, evangelist miracles, bribing, quackery, fear... by hook or crook... just like Al_Taqiya jeehaad... increasing population to do political jeehad...
🪔🙏 Go check its effects on human lives... 👌 Check if crime, corruption, discrimination, hatred, drug abuse, poverty, respect for other beliefs, pain, disease, misery... has increased or decreased...🪔🇮🇳🚩
🪔👌🙏✊️🪔 Also study the expansion in history...
🤣🤣🤣 Was it really by studying, understanding, realising 📗📕📘 a book translated, manipulated & distorted from an alien language,...
🤣🤣🤣 or was it by 🔪 force & by killing millions... in croosades & jeehaads... and are they ashamed or proud of such history...
@Aneeshh-sy8fz all religion are lies.
ARYAN MIGRATION IS FALSE• Inconsistencies in Dating: The proposed migration timelines clash with the dating of Vedic Sanskrit (generally placed between 1500-1000 BCE). There wouldn't be enough time for a well-developed language like Vedic Sanskrit to emerge if the migration happened later.
Detailed Analysis of Scenarios with Rebuttals:
Scenario 1: If the Migration Occurred Around 2000 BCE
• Contradiction: This scenario creates a significant gap between the migration and the established dating of Vedic Sanskrit (1500-1100 BCE).
• Rebuttal: A well-developed language like Vedic Sanskrit wouldn't have enough time to evolve within such a short timeframe after a supposed migration. This inconsistency weakens the argument for a large-scale migration introducing the language.
Scenario 2: If the Migration Occurred Between 3000-2000 BCE
• Contradiction 1: This scenario widens the gap between the migration and Vedic Sanskrit.
• Contradiction 2: It predates the Andronovo culture (2100 - 1200 BCE), a potential source region for Indo-European speakers.
• Contradiction 3: This scenario suggests the Indus Valley Civilization was largely built by the "Aryans," contradicting the migration theory itself, which proposes the "Aryans" encountered a developed civilization upon arrival.
• Rebuttal: These contradictions cast doubt on the feasibility of a large-scale migration at this time period. The lack of archaeological evidence for such a migration further weakens this scenario.
Scenario 3: If the Migration Occurred Between 1800-1500 BCE (Mostly proposed)
• Contradiction 1: This scenario contradicts archaeological findings like the Sinauli site (2000-1800 BCE) which shows elements associated with the Vedas pre-dating the proposed migration. The site has yielded evidence of chariots, helmets, and swords, all artifacts commonly associated with Indo-European cultures. This presence of these elements pre-dates the proposed migration timeline for the Aryans.
• Contradiction 2: Genetic evidence suggests a degree of continuity in the populations of Northwest India during the proposed migration period, arguing against a large-scale replacement of the existing population.
• Rebuttal: These contradictions highlight the inconsistencies in the timeline and the lack of evidence for a massive population displacement. These contradictions highlight the inconsistencies in the timeline and the lack of evidence for a massive population displacement. The presence of these Indo-European cultural elements at Sinauli before the proposed migration weakens the argument that the Aryans introduced them.
Opponent's Proposals and Rebuttals:
• Earlier Existence of Vedic Sanskrit: Some argue for an earlier date for Vedic Sanskrit to bridge the gap with the migration. However, there's no clear archaeological or linguistic evidence to support this claim.
• R1a1a Haplogroup: The presence of the R1a1a haplogroup (associated with Indo-European speakers) in South Asia is used to support the migration. However, this genetic marker could be explained by earlier migrations or independent development of Indo-Aryan languages within the region. Genetic evidence suggests some gene flow, but not necessarily a large-scale population replacement. R1a1a might have been in Indian subcontinent before the proposed migration of Aryans or might originated there.
Evidence for Indigenous Development:
• Archaeological Continuity: Sites like Bhiranna( 3500-2200 BCE one of the oldest site), Mehgrah (7000-2600 BCE), Lothal (2400-1900 BCE), and Rakhigarhi (5500-1900 BCE) show cultural continuity across time periods, suggesting internal development rather than a sudden cultural shift caused by a large-scale migration. The presence of elements associated with the Vedas in pre-migration archaeological sites further weakens the migration theory. Additionally, symbols like Swastikas (exact dates vary, but found across Indus Valley Civilization sites) and seals depicting deities (both male and female) dating back to at least 3500 BCE have been found at Indus Valley Civilization sites, suggesting these concepts were well-established within the indigenous population and predate the proposed Aryan migration (2000-1500 BCE). Fire altars found at Kalibangan (2800-2600 BCE), Lothal (2400-1900 BCE), and Banwali (2000-1700 BCE) may further highlight the continuity of ritual practices in the region.
• Recent excavations at Rakhigarhi revealed a 5,000-year-old jewelry-making factory, showcasing advanced craftsmanship in ancient South Asia. This finding suggests a well-established culture with sophisticated metalworking skills predating the proposed Aryan migration around 1800-1500 BCE.
• This revision includes tentative dates for the Indus Valley Civilization sites and the Indus seals depicting deities. It emphasizes the significant time gap between these findings and the proposed Aryan migration, strengthening the argument for indigenous development.
• Genetic Continuity: Reports suggest genetic continuity in the Indus Valley Civilization over 8000 years, challenging the idea of a large-scale migration replacing existing populations.
• Linguistic Analysis: Linguistic analysis of Dravidian and Indo-Aryan languages suggests long-term contact and potential substrate influence, which aligns better with a model of interaction and internal development rather than a complete linguistic replacement.
• Lack of Evidence for Migration: The absence of strong archaeological or linguistic evidence for a massive influx of people weakens the Aryan migration theory. There are no clear archaeological signatures of a large-scale migration event.
The Term Aryan
The term first appears in the Vedas, suggesting an origin within South Asia rather than with migrating people.
Assigning "Aryan" to the Sinthashta culture (2100-1900 BCE) lacks clear linguistic support, challenging its application to archaeological contexts. There is no evidence of Sinthashta speakers calling themselves “Aryans”. Fact that we have NO evidence of what language they spoke there and same goes for Andronovo culture. The Indo-Iranian branch should given a new term. Vedic Sanskrit(Vedas) is still oldest known the Branch indo-iraninan so term needs a logical term which should have a balanced credit.
- Max Müller's interpretation linking Aryans with invasions and racial hierarchies is criticized for Eurocentric bias and lack of empirical evidence.
Conclusion:
The Aryan migration theory faces significant challenges with inconsistencies in dating, lack of strong archaeological evidence, and emerging genetic and linguistic data. While the presence of Indo-Aryan languages and some cultural elements suggests interaction, the evidence points towards a more nuanced understanding that emphasizes internal development, cultural exchange, and potentially smaller migrations over time
Shifting Focus:
The focus in this field has shifted towards alternative models that consider:
• Cultural Interaction: Interaction and exchange of ideas between existing populations could explain the spread of cultural elements associated with the Vedas.
• Internal Development: The possibility that Indo-Aryan languages emerged within the Indus Valley Civilization or nearby regions is gaining traction (current evidence)
• Smaller Migrations: Smaller migrations or interactions with populations carrying the R
Okay, buddy. Didn't have to copy paste a full article - just send the link like a normal person. Now hear me out - even if steppe migration timeline is off, migration still happened. And how does this change what I said about the magical stuff in Ramayan?
"Migration still happened" Did you read anything he said? The migration theory is no longer at the forefront of possible explanations for what happened during the time period. Be a little more open to comments which is clearly not the case, evident from the hints of passive aggression in your replies. Again, you should read more about why the aryan migration theory is most likely a farce.
It's a fact
@@TheIanPanda go see the genetic report of India....
r1a1 dna said to be only availble to aryans of north India was found in south Indians...
source:NIH...
which just proves the theory was always bogus....
it was a theory just to divide india into north and south....
@@TheIanPandaHave you checked the recent excavation of Sinauli where a Tribe existed with Swords, Weapons and Chariot almost around 1900 B.C.E
Yes. It's totally false to compare the 2.
Jesus was historical, Mohammad was historical, Adi Shankaracharya was historical, Ramanujacharya was historical.
But Allah is mythological, Angel Gibrael is mythological, God is mythological, Ram is mythological, Shiva is mythological. These can be legendary (a mixture of mythology & history) but far from being actually historical.
Flying donkeys in Qur'an, changing water to wine in Bible, splitting the Nile in Old bible, flying chariots & someone carrying a mountain by his hand in Ramayana... These things are 100% Mythological and there's not a single evidence to prove any of these.
Religious people should understand that History & Science does not work depending on their "emotions & faith". They can "believe" whatever the hell the want to believe in. In no way will such things be accepted by other people. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
Agree. That's what I say.
Those were not flying donkeys bro 🙄🤦
3:24 Ques;tioning is e;asy. F;inding a;nswer is h;ard.
No m;atter wh;at we d;o, we c;an't pr;ove Ra;mayana archae;ologically as the tim;e p;eriod is m;uch o;ld.
Is that the only thing standing in the way? What about the fact that Ramayan has a bunch of magical and fantasy elements, which can't be true - which means even if those characters ever existed, they have been heavily allegorised/ exaggerated. That makes the story mythology, NOT history. It's as simple as that. Same applies to Jesus Christ - the moment you bring in miracles and resurrection, it stops being historical and goes into the realm of mythology.
@TheIanPanda
Y;es n;ot w;hole R;amayana is t;rue. B;ut dis;carding it as ov;erall my;th w;ill on;ly be stu;pidity.
@dustudent1637 - No, buddy. That's how history works. Homer's epics Iliad and Odyssey are not considered history. Neither can our epics be - because there's no EVIDENCE.
@@TheIanPanda
G;reek sou;rces m;ention Por;us's army ch;anting n;ame of t;heir anc;estor "Herakles"(ha;re krish;na). N;ame of b;irth pl;ace of Kr;ishna "Methora", "Kleisobora" a;nd Jobaresh(Ja;muna) h;as al;so b;een men;tioned in the;ir lang;uage.
Chan;dogya Upa;nishad a;lso men;tion th;at.
Pa;nini al;so m;entions hi;s n;ame.
Pa;tanjali al;so.
Y;asko al;so.
Ya;jurveda al;so.
In T;amil N;adu, th;ose pl;ace a;re s;till wor;shipped wh;ere R;ama him;self w;alked. up;on.
Com;parison w;ith Ill;iad a;nd Od;yssey lo;oks d;ull.
@@TheIanPanda
G;reek sou;rces m;ention Por;us's ar;my ch;anting n;ame of t;heir anc;estor "Herakles"(ha;re krish;na). N;ame of b;irth pl;ace of Kr;ishna "Methora", "Kleisobora" a;nd Jobaresh(Ja;muna) h;as al;so b;een men;tioned in the;ir lang;uage.
Chan;dogya Upa;nishad a;lso men;tion th;at.
Pa;nini al;so m;entions hi;s n;ame.
Pa;tanjali al;so.
Y;asko al;so.
Ya;jurveda al;so.
In T;amil N;adu, th;ose pl;aces a;re s;till wor;shipped wh;ere R;ama him;self w;alked. up;on.
Com;parison w;ith Ill;iad a;nd Od;yssey lo;oks d;ull.
First of all, Aryan invasion/migration theory is wrong. bro
Citing some links for you to check out:
economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/steppe-migration-to-india-was-between-3500-4000-years-ago-david-reich/articleshow/71556277.cms?from=mdr
www.indianembassytehran.gov.in/eoithr_pages/MTc,
www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/sanskritavestan.htm
caravanmagazine.in/perspectives/vedic-people-new-dna-evidence-india-history
Aryan Invasion theory was dropped, not migration. And even if we refute all these evidence and say that Hindus were always there, then also - there's ZERO evidence that Ramayan was real.
@@TheIanPanda also there is no correct evidence that we can believe christ exist
@@TheIanPanda who had seen christ born
@ggautamr4677 - Don't believe it. Who cares! I just mentioned that contemporary writing of that period mention a man of that description - didn't you watch the video?
What is your argument exactly? Nobody saw Modi being born either. But he exists and he is a man. Do you think I am a Christian? Didn't you watch the video? This is a poor way to troll, buddy!
I understand your point. I was atheist myself before (currently not). I don't recommend anyone to believe in what literally written in this ancient text. Like they are all pov in someways. Mostly they are metaphorical, kinda of like poem.
The concept of god is like an 'conspiracy theories'
The more you believe in the more it will feel like this is true
The less you believe in the more you feel yaa that's all just made up and fake.
Atlast let's just live with peace and harmony, no matter who or what you believe in.
Agree.
Agreed ❤
Agree 👍
And even if anyone believe in any religion I don't understand what is their end goal?
Someone’s faith shouldn’t hurt you
My lack of faith also shouldn't hurt them.
@@TheIanPanda Hurt whom?
Who are them?
Whoever's faith you think shouldn't hurt me.
@@TheIanPanda Why do you think it does?
@@TheIanPandano it doesnt hurt me.
They are neither History nor mythology, they are legends.
Mythology
@@FluxinateMythology means pure fictional story, history means pure factual scenario, a legend has some aspects that are factual and some that are fiction
@@HDB41spiderman god Fr 🫡🫡🫡
@@HDB41I think they're "highly extrapolated" legends meaning a conflict of 2 villages of a thousand people over lands dispute inspiring someone to write Mahabharata(in which crores of people have fought)
Ironman too 😂
" I hate it when people do not call their own beliefs mythology and instead call it history, when people do not blasphem against their own beliefs and call it fake, and reject my beliefs in evolution as truth no matter what, just because I give them proof. Grrhhh other people believing in what they want and say that Mahabharat is history and not mythology, grrrrhhhhhh arrrrgggghhhhh, people saying that they do not believe that evolution is true even if I give them proof arrrrgghhhhhhh. Also I support everyone's freedom of speech and right to their own opinion. "
Wow, Atheists make so much of sense, getting angry when we speak our beliefs, but say we are easily offended when we get angry when they speak their beliefs, and saying that they believe in Freedom of Speech and Everyone's rights to say whatever they want as long as it is respectful and does not hurt others, and their rights to expression their own opinions and beliefs, but when someone speaks something that these people do not believe in, or rejects something that they do believe in, then they get all like " arrrrgggggghhhhhhh! " Wow no hypocrisies whatsoever or at all.
Christian=money making business 💰
Explanation bad me deta hu
Jai shree ram 🚩
Agree. Par waise current scenario mein Jai Shree Ram bhi bas political naara ban ke reh gaya hai. Ram jaisa banna koi nahi chahta. Bas Ram ke naam pe Raavan wale kaam ho rahe hain.
@@TheIanPandayes 🙌
People spread hate in the name of religions
@@TheIanPanda
And o
Some people's biggest problem is they blame religions not the person who have done the crime s
@@Shiningbracelet yes obviously will blame the religion when it will promote war , hate , casteism etc
get all hindus scriptures a glance . all you find is a bloodshed , !!
@@TheIanPandaJai Sree Ram is the slogan of Resistance against Parasite Civilizations like the Abrahamic Cults
Title: In this series, I am mad at you for not believing in the Evolution and Aryan Invasion Theory that of which I believe in, but make fun of others beliefs and tell them they are wrong and feel free to even make fun of them.
जय श्री राम 🙏🚩
Sure, Jay Shree Ram - as long as you admit he's a legend, a part of a great piece of mythology. I am all for appreciating the good things about his character, but if you say Ramayan is historical, I will laugh at you. No offense.
What funny language are you writing? Does your keyboard insert 'ok' after every sentence arbitrarily? Why would I debate with Sadhguru, a conman? Also, if you're so fond of meditation, do it yourself - stop giving unsolicited advice.
@@TheIanPanda better believe in a legend then to believe of a middleastern man, who knows if he had mental disorders and heaven and hell is just fiction, there aren't any proof about them anyway
and it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not the main aim religion isn't just to answer who was creator, it is much more than that, it gives the culture and shape to the land, gives connection to what your forefathers were, gives you an identity (just look at identity crisis of pakistan), and unity through out the diverse land of bharat.
Also the concept of religion of western and eastern philosophies are totally different.
one focuses on fear of judgement day and other focuses on attaining moksh by living a virtous life
@@TheIanPandaDo you believe Jesus is a myth?
@@TheIanPanda Ok, sit and laugh. You are not the one who decides history. Jai Shree Ram
Intellingence discovered in 1900s,
People before 1900s.:
so true
Good one, buddy. Care to counter my points? Or you're happy being a troll?
@@TheIanPanda good one
Christianity is not completely based on those ideas alone... It is also based on teachings like sacrifice is the greatest virtue, love thy enemy, 10 commandments etc...when u r comparing religions, just do a comparison on the teachings rather than on the so called "miracles".
All religions talk about good values and virtues. The video isn't a comparison - and if Christianity isn't about Christ, then why don't you believe in Islam? Same God.
The same God, may be, but different teachings...that's the point...I don't believe in their God because there are many people who are misguided by the teachings of that religion or maybe the teachings are corrupted... similarly the other religion which says, for example, you can take whatsoever path to reach your aim... I cannot teach my children that because tomorrow they will cheat in exams, clear it and say our God approves of it.
Jesus Christ made his life a message .. His last prayer was to forgive his enemies. Now you can argue saying that it never happened... ok there's no prob..but the teachings or the message that he gave is what matters and what I personally hold as important. If you are willing to give away your life for the sake of others then you are a God... That's ultimately the message. And i don't think there is any other religion which teaches that.
@@TheIanPanda In Christianity the miracles are secondary.. you eliminate all the miracles from the Bible and still you will tend to respect the character of Jesus Christ. Real christians are not exactly trying to learn how the miracles are done..they are trying to reach a level in life where it is possible for them to love the people who hate them. Also, the crucifixion is far far far more important than the resurrection.
You don't think there's any other religion that teaches that? Okay, I have a question. Were you born Christian? If yes, then you were not even allowed to explore other theologies, even for academic purposes. So it is rich when you say other religions don't teach it. You don't know any other religion. Your faith is the result of early indoctrination. And I don't have a problem with you practicing your faith - the problem comes when you start saying it is the only true way. Hope you understand the point I am making.
@cj-KL08 - Okay, then why do you need to spread the religion and use the miracles as a justification to convince people that Jesus was son of God? These philosophical takes would be valid if your faith wasn't so commoditized. Anyway, that's not even what the video is about.
Your concept might be true….but you need to do more research before putting the video….Half knowledge will land you in trouble….
Also, no person born on this planet is a god or no god born on this planet is a human which explains that your mind is your friend and enemy….when it controls you then you are a human and when you control it then you are closer to that eternal laws of nature or so called God or the force …! Neither jesus nor ram nor krishna was a god who arrived from the skies , but a human born on this planet ruled the people, understood the existence of oneself rather than leaving the same planet empty handed and gave the knowledge of true self and purpose of life…person lifting the mountain, breaking the river, resurrection of a person is for those followers who gets washed away and believes in faith rather than true understanding
What needs more research according to you? All you gave was religious gyaan. I don't deem that scientific or worth researching. If you think I quoted some wrong information, I'll be happy to check. But otherwise, what new information are you providing?
@abhish8805 - So according to you, only people with science degrees can be rational? As as far as "before I even consider" is concerned, who are you? You don't wanna believe in what I'm saying, then don't. You think the world is waiting for YOUR validation and approval? Such entitled outlook.
Lol guy literally beleives in aryan migration theory and calls himself fact checker ....!
😂😂
Lol guy has literally pinned a comment with links to articles where genetic research supports steppe pastoral migration hypothesis. But I guess it's too much work to read, right?
🤣🤣
What you believe in, does not matter.
Science and evidence point out towards Aryan migration theory. That is different than Aryan Invasion theory. There was no invasion, agreed. But there definitely was migration and intermixing of the natives with the Aryans to various extent.
evide3nce is there that Lord Jesus existred on earth.
don't mock a true god
Lord Jesus is the only Lord who rose up after 3 days of death.
ram didn't rose up,nor any other god
so,don't make your gods a suibject of mockery here
Another ignorant Christian. Go peddle this nonsense to someone that cares.
@TheIanPanda when you are highlighting your God,it is OK.
But when I am highlighting my God,what is your problem?
Your religious belief is popular only in India
But most beloved religious belief in the whole world is Christianity
So,don't vomit illogical words.And also get a full knowledge
@ayanpahari3393 - Did you even watch the video before commenting? Lol! I did not highlight any God. I am an atheist, buddy. I speak about rationality. I clearly said that while there's recorded evidence of a religious character like Jesus, such evidence does not exist for Ram.
And it is also a fact. there's literally no real evidence of Jesus's resurrection. You can believe whatever you want to. But when you start saying my God is real and your's isn't to people, you are being stupid. And that's the kind of thinking that ultimately leads to religious extremism. And I stand against religious extremism.
@TheIanPanda you liked a comment jai shree ram
Specially,in your thumbnail,You mentioned Jesus as a normal but ram as a God
How do you call yourself an atheist?
You are a hindu
Firstly, I didn't like any comments. Secondly, my thumbnail is designed for my audience, which being in India is 80% Hindus. But all of this is irrelevant, since you jumped to defend Christianity, without even watching the video? By continuing this argument, you're just making your stupidity and ignorant more conspicuous.
Your theory of migration itself is debunked so what you believe or refuse to believe does not matter. You are just another youtuber who is trying to make your living just by presenting your beliefs and your opinions. The only good thing is that you choose Hinduism, try choosing Christianity and Islam for that matter and call it mythology and fictional and try to prove that by your logic, opinion and theories and see what happens then ..
I literally did that in this very video. I have pinned the links about steppe pastoral migration. I guess your comment is apt for your handle.
@@TheIanPanda they come from east afghanistan or west pakistan not from steppe....
coming from steppe is just isnt possible geographically due to himalayas and hindu kush mountains....
Who debunked ?? shinde and his team .. ?? there study paper itself doesn't reveal much about debunking migration .. yes there interview claims were dubious which was much influenced by the sitting govt. ideologies .. !! shinde and team took u turn from there 2018 final report while publishing there 2019 harrapan genome ancestory report study report.
Kudos to you . ☺️
Thank you!
Jesus is not god of this land..my forefathers prayed for god of this land. Respect.
Do you just comment without watching the video? God of this land? It doesn't matter which specific delusion your forefathers subscribed to, I'm saying they were all wrong.
Still there is no proof for evolution, As far as know it was theory without any logical proof. same way Sri Ram was human, but he will become god for me bcs he have values which i don't.
As per your logic if i say something bad (i don't want use the word) about you should not hurt bcs your good. You people take mic and hurt other beliefs any belief i mean christinaity or hindu or etc we should not react to it.
Go to any lady/boy and say s**t/b*****d ask her/him to not react bcs she is not a s**t/b****d
Great stuf brother
Thanks. Very obvious stuff. But these days, you actually need to spell it out for people.
Good work👏🏻 keep doing
Thanks ✌️
Good to have different point of view. Even I decline the fictional things from our epics. I bow down to Ram because of character not because he is with me, blessing me or he is God. And for your information Sanatan supports both theist and atheist philosophies. Don't revolve your thoughts around current Hinduism. It is currupt. The OG sanatan lost somewhere because of Ibrahamic impositioning. I am suprised to see those internet articles yet you haven't seen any article debunking aryan invasion theory.
This whole "current Hinduism is corrupt" argument has one problem - any religion (if you agree that God is a man-made construct) is what the people practice. So regardless of what you think it was designed as, Hinduism is what the people do with it today. Same logic applies to caste system as well. And as far as Aryan Migration - here's a recent update on that:
caravanmagazine.in/commentary/what-media-reporting-ancient-dna-results-says-about-our-times
The Indian scientists are giving contradictory statements from the findings of the papers they themselves were a part of. Why? That's easy to guess - to align with the Sangh parivaar. But hey, you believe whatever suits you.
@@TheIanPanda Brother, I said Hinduism is corrupt. Hinduism never existed before the invasion of Islamist rulers. Corruption started even before the invasion and it is because no one is interested to know the goals of Sanatan. I am not seeing you should know cause it's an individual choice. Because of incomplete understanding, the current so-called "Hinduism" is corrupt. There is no enforcement of ideology in Sanatan.
Nopes . in ramayan atheists are compared to thieves . in veda it is asked to kill & Punish all non vedic believers . bro read your scriptures first .. !! it is neo - hinduism which is claiming theist and athiest .
The miracles of the Bible are real
Whatever helps you sleep at night!
@@TheIanPanda
I have experienced it myself.
And I have experienced the presence of a dragon in my backyard. Do you believe me?
@@TheIanPanda
You'll see one day!
@@TheIanPanda Oh!! thats where my pet dragon ran off to. Anyways, I wish a steady and incredible growth for your channel.
Let me see how much unbiased you are? Make videos on Mohammed and Islam as well with same criticism. If you cannot, accept the Hinduphobia existing today and put a prominent disclaimer in every video of yours that you refuse to criticise Islam because of fear of extremists.
Explore the channel. There's already video where I have said that about Islam. And guess what - no Muslim threatened me. I am bored of people like you coming up and talking as if Hindus are victims. Just this week, a mosque was attacked, a church was attacked, Muslims were lynched - all by Hindu outfits, but you want to believe there's Hinduphobia. Hindutvavadi Hindus are the perpetrators here, not the victims.
@@TheIanPandayeah your right
I believe good and bad people are everywhere and in every religion or country
But Hindus always victimize themselves
Like their own TH-camr said it
(Dhruv Rathee)
Excellent
mythology also means myth = fiction
Subscribed... Be consistent bro
I will try. Thanks for subscribing!
Appreciate 🎉❤ keep it up
Thank you, I will...
The real comparison would be between Noah and Ram/ Krishna. Jesus was a real perosn who existed. But Noah and the flood is mythology. In fact much of the old testament legends of adam and eve and Abraham are mythology
There's no comparison here. I just dealt with two different analogies based on someone's comment. And the topic is the magical stuff in these books, which I deem fictional. This video is not a study of religion at all.
Yes jesus is real god
No. Galactus is the only real God. 🤣
@abhish8805 - Show me your degree in theology before giving gyaan in the comment section. 😂 I love trolls like you - you come and desperately leave multiple comments on my videos, and then tell me you won't believe me. Then just go away from the video - why are you engaging with it?
U should see Abhijit chavda and many historian even British historian debunked Aryan theories
Abhijit Chavda is NOT a historian. His credentials are fake. Aryan invasion theory is regarded as incorrect, but steppe pastoral migration has been supported by genetic evidence. Linguistic studies also point to the same.
Why aren't you on twitter...😮
Never got a hang of twitter. Did start putting stuff out on Threads recently though.
Sorry that i took u seriously 😂. Plz do ur work on whatever u believe in if it means you believe that God Doesn't exist. Or i believe the god exists. Truth is we both agree believers of what we don't actually no.
That's a good attitude to have. People don't always need to agree on everything to be civil to each other.
Ramayan is history. Laugh at me boi.
I sure will laugh at you. But then, you don't even know the spelling of 'boy', so such ignorance is expected. Ha ha.
@@TheIanPanda haha. It is slang.
See, we both had a good laugh!
Are you atheist or agnostic, sir?
I would highly recommend you check out inspired philosophy's video on the historic evidence of Jesus's resurrection, sir!
Second would be to hopefully debate him (inspired philosophy) on the matter...
Also last question, what sort of making you refuse the existence of a creator? Is it evidence? Secondly like let's say the creator of this universe whoever may it be shows up to you...would you be open to believe? my question is simple words is..if there is solid evidence of any religion....would you be atleast open to it? or deny it? even if it's true?
Thank you!! Have a nice day
I am a rationalist. I believe that no religion has any true idea about a creator. Call it whatever you want. If a creator appears some day, sure, I'll believe there's a creator. But the religions would still be man-made delusions. Because think about it, all religions believe that humans are somehow special. But in the scheme of the universe, or even earth for that matter, we are small and insignificant. So thinking that someone who created all this, is sitting somewhere watching us and hearing prayers and judging our actions - that's just stupid.
And no, I don't want to "debate" with anyone. I believe religions are stupid but if someone wants to practice his/her delusion and keep it to themselves, I don't mind. The problem comes when people want others to align with their delusions.
@@TheIanPanda I see, I'm glad you're at least open-minded unlike many other atheists...but i would highly recommend you read the book "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel
and at least watch the video I recommend about the historic evidence of the crucifixion and the resurrections by inspired philosophy as he made a ton of good points...if you could refute them then that would be nice to hear as well
@@Alphain Why would I go to so much pain to believe in these things? I sure will check this video out when I have the time, but I recognize that a lot of people have put in a lot of work to validate Christian beliefs - it still does not make them true.
Of course Jesus real and rest are myth
Funny. A MAN called Yeshua did exist, buddy. I'll give you that. But he was neither born of a virgin, nor did he come back after dying. The miracles are all made up - and if you disagree, then you'll have to concede that all miracles happened - even the ones described in Ramayan.
@TheIanPanda of course Jesus is great
waiit i wanna add something more i think you miss something also
Jesus is real you'll meet him one day
Okay buddy. I could also claim Krishna is real - you will meet him some day and you'll have to explain why you let a bearded Jewish man influence you away from Krishna.
@@TheIanPandano he doesnt meet anyone😂 this shows that on what ground you have left hinduism. LMAO.
Well i dont really care what is truth yeah i love the teachings... But ghost exist and how mantras works dear..?
Our culture says to be a human. Karam decides everything
What do u think about kalyug??? Is it true kalyug or kali purush
The story of kali or how he effect raja parikshit...
An american professor of University of Michigan told me that every infrastructure and the the concept of a new religion was chalked out to be different from existing Hinduism(then). Like if Hinduism has idol worship, the new one should not have it. If like the churches in Europe looks like a certain way, now the churches in Usa lets say should look different.
So it can be inferred that all of it is just to dissent.
What is the context of this? What are you talking about?
I am currently struggling between Atheism and Hinduism
Would love to have a some conversations with you regarding some of my doubt
I really wanted to have a discussion but there no way around and the rest of the people get easily offended
You can DM me on Instagram. Although, I am no guru. I can tell you about my experiences though.
No need to ask anybody. You are a free person. Try and experiment with whatever you feel is right for you... Explore, dig deep and evaluate, if you are not feeling it you should most likely quit it... Personally, I'd say religion(of any kind, preferably one that offers more liberty) is much better than atheism which can get very depressing with time(speaking with experience here)
he talks as if he is God!! N knows everything……
Be aware one day you have to meet God… you will know how small you are…. then!!
Trying Poor cheap ways to get views….. sorry bro!!
Which God will I meet? I think you mean Jesus. But my folks thought I'd meet Shiva. Muslims think I would meet Allah. Ever considered the possibility that you are wrong and you're spending your life in a delusion?
I already know I'm small and insignificant. It's you who think you were made in "God's image".
Stay tuned for my next video - it is gonna cover Christianity!
Sir, all I would say is,
calling the son of god as "nonsense" , didn't sound right to me...
I respect your views, thoughts and facts, but straight away defaming Jesus and our supreme lord in heaven...was just not right
as few people have been sent to jail, just because they cracked a harmless joke on a Hindu deity.
sir, I don't care, what u say about other religions....
but all I would humbly ask is, for you to be a little cautious for not hurting people's sentiments and beliefs .
Don't watch the video. Simple.
But if you do, then be ready for your beliefs to be questioned. Can't handle that? That's a YOU problem.
When Christians go around calling every other God of every other religion "false Gods", why do you expect others to respect your God?
Because it says so in the Bible? Why do you believe the Bible and not Greek Mythology? You are Christian only because you were indoctrinated early.
If this outraged you, please don't watch the next video I'm going to drop.
@@TheIanPanda Sir,
Your dismissive and provocative response only serves to further disrespect and inflame the situation. While you have every right to question and critique, doing so with outright insults is unacceptable.
Criticism can be done respectfully. Disparaging someone's deeply held beliefs reflects a lack of basic respect. When Christians express their faith, it is to share, not to dismiss others. Dismissing my beliefs as indoctrination undermines the personal experiences that many, including myself, have gone through.
You accuse Christians of calling other gods "false," yet your defense of your opinions in the same dismissive manner makes you no different. If someone made a disgusting claim about something you hold dear, wouldn't you feel the same anger and frustration? Wouldn't you seek respect?
You posted this video for what? To be seen, to be heard, to be liked? It was meant to reach people. Disrespecting others' faiths only deepens divides. If your goal is open dialogue, start by respecting those you engage with.
Lastly, if you think my beliefs are not worth respecting, then your videos are not worth watching. Don't worry, you won't find me watching them.
@Eshita_Joseph - Could have just left. Why waste so much energy typing such long comments. I just said the son of God bit is nonsense - that's not an insult. All religions except Christianity have the same opinion. Anyway, I really don't know who watches or doesn't watch my video, till they comment. So...best if luck for your future endeavours! 😂
Please do it with @VIMOH and also give reply to @hyperquest from vimoh side
Why should I get into their e-lafda? Anyway, Vimoh already handled it - with his trademark grace. I doubt I'd be able to be as patient. Ha ha.
@@TheIanPanda ya but mei soch rha ki app hyperquest and vimoh ko apne channel pr stream kra dete debate k liye but koina your choice is good too
Nah...not my niche.