NEVER thought this video would pop off like this so I want to address a couple common questions. 1. Why an X3D chip if you don’t game all too much? Why not used 5900x? Fair point, but I felt more comfortable buying brand new off the shelf and getting the best of both worlds instead of risking a used chip, which I’ve had varied experiences with used parts in the past. Plus I still link up with some guys here and there for a game night so it’s not a complete waste. 2. Why lower your refresh rate from 144hz to 100hz? I didn’t my mean prolong in the sense that the parts would die faster if set at 144hz. I meant “prolong the usefulness of my parts”, because my original config had an easier time pumping a consistent solid 100fps with the more demanding-ish games I play as opposed to 144fps. At 144hz I would notice stutters and drops that felt less comfortable to me than just cruising at 100hz. 3. 650W isn’t enough for a new GPU? Like I said I’ve been out of the hardware world for about 5 years and haven’t been SUPER interested in a new card. I did eye up some 7800XT’s since the price was attractive and I saw minimum recommended power of 700W. Then many in the comments said to look into 4070’s it 4070 Supers, which will be O.K. with 650W. I like to be decently above the minimum recommendations personally, in the past I was definitely an over clock tinkerer. These days it seems like everyone just runs on auto settings so maybe a 4070 or Super would be alright. THANK YOU for the random sudden influx of views and comments. I APPRECIATE it and welcome your inputs and discussions! I’m not an expert in anything by any means lol.
your 650w PSU would cover a 4070 although some 4070 models use the 12 volt highpower plug. if you choose a model with this connector type, make sure your PSU is ATX 3.0 in spec. if your current PSU isnt ATX 3.0, then simply select a 4070 that has standard PCIE 6+2 connectors
@@jeremyhunter5954 Most cards come with the adapter for two standard pci-e 6+2 to the high power adapter. Its been long enough since the connector melt downs that I suspect the oem adapters being sold with new cards are ok. 4070 super is still a good card as long as you can get it for a reasonable price. Holiday season wiped supply out for a bit as well as limited supply due to 5000 series about to launch. You can argue both ways about upgrading right now. While we are at the end of the cycle for gpus if the tariffs hit big when the new administration takes office then expect huge cost increases on all electronics. So the potential for shortages and huge price hikes is just around the corner which means waiting for new designs could be a mistake if you have a strict budget.
Look for a resonably close microcenter store. They typically have some good deals and its a nice change of pace to actually go into a place versus the online ordering we've all been converting to. I just refreshed a machine and the 5700x3d was $179 and the 5800xt was $199 there. Its an hour drive for me but good to fill time on a saturday and you can get parts on a whim. You can also order online and just pickup at their counter if you prefer to avoid people. Also returns process is easy there. They didn't give me the run around on a flaky video card so I was pleased with their service. While your stuttes could have been the video card not keeping up I would also highly advise to buy a few display port cables and try them. Sometimes high refresh rate (especially on my 4k monitors) need better cables. I had to go through a couple because they caused strange problems. Keep the cable length as short as you can get away with. I am not familiar with your editing software (i use power director) but many you can enable gpu encoding. I've done some testing and when enabled it cuts my cpu processing in half or more (you can use the resource monitor in windows). In my case nvidia cards are the most compatible and is cuts my render times in half. So see if you have that option and if so enable it and try it out. Some will argue that cpu encode is better quality but you can try both methods and see the results for yourself. In my case I saw no difference in quality and youtube will lower the quality some anyway. Have fun with your refreshed machine!
Holdon. Wait for RTX 5070 or RX 9070 XT. Reviews coming soon. For RTX 50 GPUs should be around the end of January or first half of February. Also‚ you might be able to catch a 4070/4070 Super or RX 7800 XT on a discount‚ or even lower price on used market. OFC‚ if no other crisis will f things around again (like Crypto did).
Are you running infinity fabric and memory controller 1:1? Most of the chips stops at 3800MHz, unless you really have a super-golden CPU you're probably not running in sync with the memory
@andrexskin Yup HWInfo shows frequency at 4000MHz and infinity fabric at 2000MHz. Ran Steel Nomad and Time Spy with no issues. Also been playing Wukong and POE 2.
This is my level of pc hardware "enthusiasm". Sensible, minor upgrades, older games, etc. I'll give ya a sub for a while and see where this goes. Greetings from frozen hell, Alaska. Don't let ur meat loaf.
BTW, I got 650w psu too and it run fine with 5700x3d/ 7900xt. My Video card is slightly under volt/under clock to keep the heat down. 5700x3d is a beast in gaming. Enjoy your new CPU Bud!
I’m putting together a 7800xt and 5600x as we speak. I probably should have went with the 5700x3d like you but as this is my first build ever, I decided to spend less on the CPU on the first go and then upgrade after I get comfortable with using a PC again.
The 5700 X3D is a fantastic upgrade if you are still on am4. With that 1070 TI gpu, you're not going to see a huge increase in gaming performance simply because the GPU is the bottleneck. But you will experience much smoother frame rates regardless of that. Nice video thank you for sharing.
Agree! And thank you for the kind words. You’re right about the 1070Ti. I just didn’t want to drop close to a grand in one shot giving everything a good tune up. Originally I was looking at some 7800XT’s but after a handful of comments I might eye up a 4070 or super instead
@@the_over_thinker_ If you can spring for it the 4070 Ti Super is a great card, but of course really solid raster performance is available via the 7800XT if you're not interesting ray-tracing etc.
@@distiking Agree but I don't think NVIDIW will release a 50 series WITHOUT increasing prices - that's been their pattern so why wait if you're just going to pay more for LESS again? i.e. low tier cards performing at higher prices when 40 series cards had more features for less.
My wife and I did the same. I was in a 2017 build with R5 1600 @3,9ghz 16go ddr4 and gtx1080. My wife had a R5 2600@stock 16go ddr4 and rtx 2060 built in 2019. Just yesterday I upgraded both with 5700x3d +2x16go ddr4 exam same kit as you. You can't even imagine the change, it is night and day difference. I was on intel before and when ryzen showed up, I knew I had to build a new PC, so with my x370 board from 2017, I can still be up to date, thanks to AM4. I love it. Next step is the GPU for both of us, probably and 7800xt with new gpus coming, maybe prices will be good. Awesome value frames per money per year if you ask me. AM4 ruled those last 7 or 8 years. I will wait for AM6 now to rebuild our PCs and hope it will last more than a decad with lil upgrade along the run 😊
I was eyeing up some 7800XT’s too, but I’m undecided what the next move will be at this point. Gonna wait a couple months. It’s nice you got a wife that’s into some nerd stuff too. Hold on to her!
Pretty nice upgrade. I'm probably going to stay on am4 until am6 comes out and matures a little. Rocking a ryzen 7 5800x3d, 32 gb of ram, and an rtx 3080. I'll occasionally play newer harder to run games, but I mainly play games from the late 2000s to early 2010s. Still the best era of games imo. Just finished gta 4 and man what an amazing game it is!
tbh you would need a bigger GPU to justify moving off AM4, and then you just end up moving to 4k gaming I got a 4090 and that's what happened to me as it was mostly idling at 1440p. Even then a 5800x3d is fine, and the gains from faster CPUs at 4k is marginal.
@@teos17 So 550w is fine ? Like if I pair a 3070 ti and 57003dx or with a 7800xt. I thought these cards don't actually use much power but there are spikes that's why you need 700w or something
@@qamararfin7534 it is recommended to use i bit higher wattage for the spikes for sure yes, but regarding the specific model i use and since is platinum it can handle it pretty well, the 400w is the regular gaming session and it can spike up to 450w but it's very occasionally. Better not to use less than 700w especially if its a non brand or a bit low quality
I just went from a R 5 3600 with 16GB ram and GTX 1080 FTW2 to a R7 5700x with 64GB ram and RTX 4080 super on an ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus Wifi 2 motherboard, I am very very happy with the results and do not see myself upgrading anytime soon. I play on an ultrawide 3440x1400 LG OLED G39 monitor and get anywhere from 135 to 295+ FPS depending on what game I am playing at the time!!!! Great video by the way!!!!!
@@michaeldejesus7576 the 3600 is legendary I feel like every am4 user bought one. I did back in 2020 and I only replaced it in 2023 when my workloads changed, I am still using it to run MacOS on it, still going strong
I have a 5800x3d and honestly.. I pity people who have the upgrade bug, always staying on top, worrying about performance during a time where optimization is not something most devs care about lately. AM4 is a perfectly fine and capable platform. I love it. Oh btw: im rocking a 650w power supply with a 3070 ti lol. Undevolted it though, because that GPU gets loud and hot. You're more than fine keeping your power supply.
I also replaced my 3600X for the 5800X3D a year back, and it was definitely noticeable. I don't really game much either but the stuttering i had with the 3600X were no longer there. Brought new life to my AM4 system.
I upgraded from a 3700X to 5700X3D earlier this year and the upgrade in games especially 1% lows was HUGE, stuttering eliminated, later in the year I upgraded from 5700XT to 4070 Super and 16gb to 32gb ram, now that upgrade was immense, the 4070 Super uses exactly the same power as the 5700XT (220w) and even lower undervolted (well under 200w) with no loss in performance, I used my old parts to upgrade my stepsons PC which he only uses for Fortnite and Football/F1 manager with the 3700X and 5700XT, gotta love AM4's longevity. Great video, good luck with your channel. 👍
I'm on the same boat, I'm upgrading from an AMD 2700x. To me, it's just wild that I can still purchase components that are up to today's specs with a motherboard that is about 7 years old. While I think the 5700X3D will be the last upgrade for the AM4 platform (personally), it's amazing I was able to get about 10 years from every other component. I feel like for the past 20 or so years, everytime I put a PC together within 3 years or so it was completely obsolete! Can't wait! Just upgraded my bios last night to make sure I can just pop in the chip and I'm G2G.
HAHAHAHA The Vegas part is so REAL. Vegas pro user here! I thought I am the only one who's experiencing frequent crashes and pressing ctrl + s every 5 seconds
Tell me about it man, lol. Maybe if I stop ignoring the “upgrade to Vegas PRO (whatever number)” it’ll stop as much. But I don’t post enough stuff to feel good dropping the dough. Cash can be tight these days
Couldn’t agree more. I’m definitely a bargain deal and incremental type of guy. With how customizable computers are I’ll definitely be doing upgrades piece by piece
@@the_over_thinker_ Up until this year I was that kind of computer user - but I had the capacity to fully platform upgrade and haven't looked back. But it is the way to go when AMD had such long term shelf life for it's platform support re CPUs.
AM4 has been a brilliant platform for me. I switched from a Z70 that started as a 3rd gen i5 but ended up stuck for much of it's life as a 4th gen i7. I bought a B450 Tomahawk Max PCB because a friend was upgrading their 1700 to a 3700X back in Nov 2019 and sold me the 1700 for 80 Quid. By the time I sold the PCB, DDR3 and SATA M2 drive I more or less got the upgrade for the £100 I paid for the board. Faster core for core chip than the i7 and 8 of 'em, DDR4 and an NVMe, blew me away with how much faster the computer was for so little money spent. I've only replaced the CPU once so far, I swapped the Zen part for an R5 5500, it was about 100 quid a year and a half ago. I have upped the RAM to 32GB since, and added more SS storage. Oh, and one of those cheap Thermalright tower coolers (it's all you need up to 8 cores on AM4, especially on the 3D chips). I have been thinking of one of these chips, as my computer's final Pokemon evolution to just keep me ticking over until I get a look at AM6.
5 years & a half? Sir, u actually had a great am4 platform serves u so well. Perhaps now another 5 years. Before a major upgrade like am5 (or intel). Being that said, AMD doing great work there. Congratulations on ur upgrade.
Just yesterday I did a really meaningless upgrade (on paper) from 5600x to 5700X3D. I play a couple of CPU heavy games and already felt like I got my money's worth: in The Finals my avg fps rose about 10-15% but my 1% lows are probably 30% higher, and because of that, the game is feeling a lot smoother. GPU (3070ti) utilization is also around 93-96% whereas previously it was 85-90% majority of the time because the CPU was keeping me from getting those sweet, sweet frames. FAT32 works with up to 32 gig drives. Thank the gods my bios upgrade went smooth as butter. I really hate troubleshooting HW stuff since I'm not well versed in all that stuff. Looking at your upgrade from the productivity side, a 5700x or 5800x would've probably been a marginally better upgrade, since those CPUs seem to do better in productivity benchmarks I've seen. Higher clock speed maybe? Tho the 3D cache is really good for gaming and is definitely the better choice in the long run. Why did I write all these obvious things in a really long comment by youtube standards? For the algorithm, I guess? Good, tight editing and pleasant sound. All the best to you and everyone else who happens to read this comment.
at the start of the video, i thought it was gonna be some shit, low subscriber channel, but a few minutes in, i absolutely love the pacing and editing. also having your monitor at 144hz 24/7 won’t affect your parts at all
I gotcha, I meant that I lock it at 100hz since the older parts had an easier time pumping out a consistent framerate. At 144hz I was noticing some dips
@@the_over_thinker_you can set your refresh rate to the max, most games will have an fps limiter, or you can use MSI afterburner with riva tuner to lock the frame rate of games specifically. Locking the max frame rate in games can really help with those dips and it will be smoother and not stress the hardware as much
Gave my brother my old 5600x and swaped to a 5800x3d last year and Im really happy with the preformance for the little amout of cash invested. Hope to keep using it with good results for atleast 2 more years :)
So happy upgraded my 3600/ 3060ti to 5700X3D/ 7800XT with the same B450 motherboard. This will last another 2 years at least playing 1440p game in good fps
Thank you! Originally I was looking at some 7800XT’s which recommend 700w, but many others in the comments were saying to look at 4070’s and supers on the Nvidia side. Not sure what the choice will be, but it’s probably a couple months out at least. I’ll keep those options in mind too
I appreciate the prompt response! The good thing and bad thing about now is the all the options. However, upon reviewing and some personal experience, older amd has the vram and bang for buck. That being said l’m not biased as l was more nvidia in the past and have both brands. That being said, we all might have intel gpus if time and restocks?! lol only time will tell! Sorry for the long response and have a good night!
As someone who was super resistant to switch to Resolve from Premiere for several years, I gotta say it was FAR easier and nicer to move over than I was expecting. It's similar to learning how to drive. The car you drive is different than the other cars on the road, but all the important parts are where they belong and they all still work in pretty much the same way. I still have more to learn but I'm confident I can get it all down no problem. My latest videos are in Resolve and you wouldn't even know something changed.
Resolve would definitely be my first choice and I have given it an attempt in a few times in the past. With enough time and practice I’d definitely get used to it
The 650W Platinum PSU you have is more than enough for a new GPU in my opinion. I have a 650W Gold PSU and I just recently got an RTX 4070. There was only one game that would always crash my computer at least once but I did a really simple undervolt to decrease power consumption and now it runs perfectly. Just something to keep in mind. Great video though! I also got that same CPU along with my new GPU upgrade 👍
650 is almost the bare minimum. you should probably go with 750 or 800 to be safe. don’t get me wrong, anything above 1000 watts is pretty pointless, but if you’re gonna run a card like that, 650 watts is kinda low
I will keep that in mind whenever I’d get around to swapping out the 1070Ti. Depending on what looks good at the time I’ll search up a wattage calculator and see what makes the most sense
@@hoodlesss I use 550w PSUs on two of my systems. One system is based on a 13400f and a RX 7700 XT GPU (230w TDP). The other system is a 5700x3d and a RX 6700 XT (Also 230w TDP). Even when you take the power spikes into consideration these 550w PSUs still has plenty to go on. The reason GPU manufacturers recommend oversized PSUs is because they don't know what systems people have. Most CPUs are between 65w-100w. However, something like an i9 14900K can go well past 200 watts. PSU calculators are pretty accurate I've found. As long as you have a modern good quality PSU then there is no need to go for insane wattage. A good/decent 650 watt PSU can easily drive a RX 7900 XTX or a RTX 4080 Super.
@@larsenmats to handle that amount of power at that little wattage, you would most likely need a platinum or higher psu. just going for a gold 750 or 800 would be cheaper and more reliable than a 650 platinum imo. everyone obviously has their own opinions, so i think it’s up to the person. me personally, i would go with a higher wattage psu just to be safe. i can also upgrade in the future without having to worry about getting another power supply
@@hoodlesss nope. Bronze is fine. most decent 550w PSUs can deliver between 520 to 550w on the +12v. Systems like I described over typically max out at 350 watt max usage. But more normal up to 300 watts. So you'd still have 200 to 250 watts headroom. No need to go for huge PSUs when not needed.
Just built my new PC. Ran a prebuilt for 8 years with an i7-7700K with a GTX 1060ti in it. New PC I built has a 5700X3D. Currently have it paired with an RX7600 but eventually going to be getting a 7800XT. I couldn't be happier. Only going to be playing 1080p but I'd rather have too much than not enough.
The new amd and nvidia gpus will be releasing soon. I'd highly recommend you wait until the benchmarks for the new cards come out so you can get good value for your money and all the new tech those new cards come with. This is also for anyone who is looking into buying a new card for theyre rigs. Great vid btw, Hope to see more of this style of content in the future.
you can also shrink the partition size in windows to anything smaller than 4gb. Leave the remainder as unallocated space. You will be able to format the partition to FAT this way.
Loved the video, and my own journey with PCs has some parallels with yours, CPU and GPU :) On your PC - The 5700x3d won't do much with the 1070Ti but it will now handle a much more powerful GPU. Though I do find things get smoother. - You could use something like "PBO2 Tuner" with the 5700x3d but in my own tests the 5700x3d is pretty well setup and benefit is marginal (my 5700x3d is at -30 all cores will run at 4050Hz maxed out, 13700 in CBR23 vs stock at 13600) - Power wise your CPU+bits will probably be around 150w, which leaves you 500w for a GPU. And if you undervolt the GPU you will get smoother performance and easily come in under 300w. However, the PSU needs 2x8pins and I suspect 650w won't have these. - I'd look at a RTX3080 or similar level as this is a great 1440p experience. That's what I have paired with my 5700x3d in a cheap B550 board. Look at AMD unless you need raytracing. How high could you go? Well in my main PC I run a B550+5800x3d+RTX4090+4k Monitor, and it does great. I don't see much benefit upgrading the CPU yet as my monitor (LGC2) tops out at 120Hz and that's fine for my old eyes. BTW my 4090 pulls 350w tops as I have it undervolted, and I lost only a few % performance. On the USB flashback thing - I always run a "Clean" on the usb via DISKPART, that has fixed some problems I have had (just make sure you don't clean your PC drives) BTW my original cheap MSI B450 board is still in operation with a 5800x (don't ask) and my old 1070Ti. It started with a 2600x which I broke, then 3700x.
Thank you for the insight! I’m definitely more of a gradual upgrade kind of guy instead of dropping a big wad of cash all at once so there’s still time to decide. I didn’t expect this little video to get the attention it has already. Lost of good information in these comments though which is great!
@@the_over_thinker_ Hopefully you get some subs. And I am very much an upgrade person too.. and I seldom throw old stuff away until it becomes totally useless. BTW I got the 5700x3d for £112 prior to Xmas, off AliExpress, which was like a bargain I could not pass up and worst case I lost £112. AM4 must be one of best value platforms ever.
Loving my 5700x3D ❤ massive improvement to City Skylines which I play the most 😂 the 5600 gave me massive stutters in that game. Handed it down to my sister along with my RX 5600XT. Now I use my old R5 3600 + GTX 960 for work 😊 and 5700x3D for games ❤
Thank you sir. I was looking into some video cards from the red team also. Haven’t made a decision yet. A couple months will pass before I do, most likely. Cheers for delivering great products geared for the average folk out here!
im still using r5 5600G with 32gb ram.... well it does my work well. but for some reason my ram dont want to run 3200Hz and running 3000Hz, when i change it to 3200Hz the pc shows blue screen. hope someone can help me with this. 🙂🙂
Just upgraded many family PC's this season and had similar experience. MSI B450 with a 2600x to a 5800x (hand me down cpu). No boot. It was a 2018 bios. Had to pop in the 2600 and flash and then swap in the 5800x. Another machine was a msi 470x that has a 3600x that was upgraded to a new 5700x3d. That one went smooth other than I tried to do a traditional overclock using PBO and after 30 minutes of failing to get the bios to overclock I found out the 5700x3d is basically a locked chip. Only could tinker with power draws. These two machines were then pitted against each other in cinebench and the 5800x (overclocked with PBO) handily beat the 5700x3d as expected (something like 15800 to 13700 in R23). So this video's main criteria (video editing with gaming secondary) would have been better served by a 5800x or 5800xt ($199) which is only $20 more than the 5700x3d currently at microcenter. As far as the 64gb ddr4 upgrade in the video the timings on that memory were not great and I am not sure that the additional speed of 3600 would beat 3200 with tighter timings. Might be able to run that ram at 3200 with tighter timings.
You can tune the 5700x3d using PBO2 Tuner software, but the results are minimal. I gained ~100pts in CB-R23 though temps are lower. (use corecycler to test if doing that) With the 5800x it is definitely worth spending the time to undervolt each core. Not least because the MSI B450 VRM can get hot (depends on which board). I run a 5800x on a B450M PRO-VDH and with its little heatsink and undervolting it does fine, cooled by a Freezer 36 air cooler.
@@surfx4804 Since these are going to be passed down to nephews I didn't want to use a software tuner. More things to have to troubleshoot later. I bios tune and prime95 (overnight run) until I hit around 75C max which leaves headroom for when they don't blow the dust out of the systems. I have 3 5800x and the one 5700x3d that are moving on (b450, 470x, and two b550 boards) and I spruced them up with new cases and new arctic liquid freezer iii 280's. So a few hundred extra per machine and they will live on for the next 3-4 years until I do my own (personal, wife, daughter, work pcs) next refresh.
It's a solid CPU, for sure. However, you could still upgrade your GPU to something within a similar TDP of around 150W - 200W. For instance, the RX 6800 16GB from AMD would be a worthwhile upgrade, as the used market for these cards is within the $400 range, while performing over 70% better. Just an option.
FAT32 in Windows has maxed out at 32GB historically. They lifted the restriction in August, but it is exclusive to Windows 11 (I think). As i understand it the format maxes out at 2 TB, so it was just Windows being Windows.
Originally I was looking into an AMD 7800XT but after a handful of similar comments I started eyeing up 4070’s and Supers. Like I said in the vid I haven’t kept up much with hardware for about 5 years and didn’t realize those cards were still pretty efficient. I thought they’d be in the 750w range. Thank you for the recommendation!
@@the_over_thinker_ Yeah cards are still plenty efficient you just gotta research a bit, the 4070 Super is vastly better than base 4070 though, it basically gives you 3090 levels of performance with nearly half the tdp, it's also better for productivity in general compared to AMD cards.
I have a friend who uses R5 5600 6800xt with 650w psu, there will be no problem. Although new GPUs are more powerful, they are also efficient. Today, the new "RX 9070XT" will be introduced and if its price is reasonable, it will be the next generation suitable GPU.
I got 5700x3d for $150 which was a steal, also recently bought a used 3070 and it works fine with my bronze 620w psu, so you will be fine I guess. The 4000 series is even more power efficient. I upgraded from 2600 ryzen and gtx 1070. I love how much mileage I got from my original parts.
@@YummyCore I like your last sentence. That’s my mentality m too. I get a lot of satisfaction knowing I’ve stretched my dollar for many years with a given item
@SciK. No, not even slightly. I play around 120-170fps all day no problem. 1% lows around 100-111 when at around 120-130 and around 128 1% lows around 150-170
Great choice from 3600x. I upgraded to 5700x3d too with 450mobo. 32ram for gaming with 7900xt. No Intel or Ngreedia anymore. AMD cares unlike Ngreedia.
I was running a 5700x3D and 6800xt with evga gt 650 for months but got a good deal on 1000w so I upgraded to that . I had the 6800xt oc and undervoted . That uses more than the 7800xt
I started with a 3600x + 2070super back in 2020, then i found out most games were bottlenecking the 3600 so i got a R9 5900x and finally got my self a 3090, my dream GPU
damn bro i started with a ryzen 3 3200g and a gtx 1650 SUPER back in 2020. Even then it wasnt that bad until the APU couldnt handle anything I threw at it anymore.
in general, you rarely need x3d unless you need really high framerates (usually at 1080p gaming). some video editing benefits from it, but it is minor compared to more power and more threads of a regular R9
I agree. While games weren't my highest priority when considering this upgrade, I do prefer higher frames over higher resolutions. Plus I still game SOMETIMES just not as much as I did as a teenager. A lot of people in the comments seem confused why I went X3D instead of a vanilla 5700X or 5800X. The price was just too attractive, and I get the better if both worlds as far as productivity and games. If I just wanted better game performance obviously a new GPU would've come first. I also didn't expect this vid to pop off like this at all lol. But it's cool to see a lot of discussion going on in here!
Hey I use the 5700x3d and I have it paired with a 7800xt. I ALSO have a 650w psu with it and have 0 problems. If you truly wanted to upgrade you would be fine as long as you didn’t jump to like a 4080 or something crazy high end
hey just wanted to check you said you need a new power supply for a new graphics card? the 1070 ti that you use has a tdp of 180w, a 4070 i.e. has a tdp of 200w. i strongly doubt you need a new PS for 20w more tdp. the 5700x3d paired with a 4070 is a strong combo. but if you only play older games anyway it doesnt matter i guess.
Your last sentence is my philosophy at this point. I don’t have an interest in spending the money right now in that when I won’t see an immediate benefit
when performing a BIOS update with many diff types of thumb drives (i have the same PNY drive you have), you should go into partition manager and create a second partition with a capacity of 16gb or less. format the 16gb partition as fat 32 (this option will appear with the smaller partition size. then you can copy your renamed BIOS image and use the flashback button
Just a heads up that you CAN format that USB drive to FAT32. Windows natively does not allow it to a certain size. But there are plenty of ways to circumvent that. Do note that it takes forever to format.
I don't know if Vegas had the option (i use Adobe After Effects and Premiere), but for me, moving the cache folders to a separate cheap ssd made a huge difference in performance. Maybe you can give it a try.
I too am planning to upgrade my 5600X to a 5700X3D, since I'm also planning to upgrade my RTX 3070 to maybe the upcoming RX 9070 XT. My 5600X will bottleneck current generation GPUs. I'm still sticking with my AM4 platform and will probably get a new build when AM6 comes out. I'm only aiming to play upcoming titles (Spiderman 2, FF7 Rebirth) in 1440p optimised max settings. The 8GB of VRAM of my 3070 is finally holding me back. Can't even use High Textures on Indiana Jones and The Great Circle...
3:05 man i understand you completely, i've been using Vegas since i was 14 (almost 15 years ago) and i swear i dread learning any new editing program even if it is miles better just because i know vegas like i know myself lol
I don’t even edit all that much to be fair too lol. You’re right I could have gotten a 5900x for a similar price. But for me there’s value in getting a brand new part and get the best of both worlds. Just in case I get that itch to dabble more in newer games again. Plus I still link up with some of my guys for a game night too, so I don’t see it as a complete waste. I just meant that gaming isn’t my highest priority right now
you 100% can cap at 144hz, id even buy a cheaper 1080p 240hz monitor and use that. i got mine for 140$ on amazon and its very nice. id even consider an rx 7600 for around 250 it has a TDP of 165w and your 5700x3d has a TDP of 105w which would be perfectly fine for your power supply. you'd have a beast of a pc for a while
@@the_over_thinker_ yes. That is true. But I've had them work on any. Not sure why somebody made it that way, but 5 hours of research for my son and I had a random on Reddit with that as his answer. The only time AM4 made me disappointed.
Switched aswell from a R5 3600+16gb 3000mhz to 5700x3d+32gb 3600mhz on my Asus B450F Gaming 2. Funny though, when I bought the R5 3600 during the pandemic. The price was same as I bought my 5700x3d last month. 😂
I'm on i7 8700k+gtx1080 rn and thinking about upgrading to 5700x3d and cheapest mobo I can find (spending around 270€ for both). Many friend suggest me to go directly to am5 without 3d but I insist that, as I play mainly Tarkov, it's almost crucial to have 3d. What do you think?
5700x3D best cheapest upgrade, you have the rendering stats in description haw much frames has the video? only for kompare with my rendering with ryzen 5 5600g and kdenlive at linux
@@8BitRetroRabbit I just checked and only 10,753 frames. Real life video I prefer 24fps especially with 4K. Not because it’s “cinematic” but because it takes up less space lol. Plus if I ever want to do a twinge of slow motion I can set the camera to 30fps and slow it down 20%. I rarely do that but the option’s there
@@the_over_thinker_ how can it have only 10k? okay ... ah 30fps thats why (: my ryzen 5 5600g needs 22min for my videos (its music videos it have more fps/frames 40-50k depends on length at 7min songs its round about 8-14k frames and i need 8minutes (no i not upload in 4k i just tested it in 4k for 4k is my LTE connection much to slow max i can use is 1080p with compressed files i render with 25-45fps normal and at rendering i have at 1080p 22-250-2000fps depends on renderer and resolution (: yes in linux you render with cpu not like windows with gpu good to know i think i upgrade too too the 5700x but because im on linux not the 3D its mosttoimes useless in linux)
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How high temps you hit? I jumped from the same cpu to a 5800x3d using the same cooler. Enjoy.
One could call this setup unbalanced, but i ran the same 1070 Ti with a ryzen 7700x for a good 6-7 months because the 1070 Ti was all I could afford. Played Battlefront II 2017 pretty well at 1050p (when it didnt trip the overvoltage protection due to my shitty 650w evga n1 psu) once i went 1440p the game dropped to
I was kind of eyeing up a 4070 / 4070 super. Thought about an AMD GPU for a little bit like 7800XT but I’m undecided still. Probably won’t drop the money on it for another couple months or so
@@the_over_thinker_ Out of those options, I’d say the 7800 XT but that all depends on the pricing of the 9070 XT- if that card ends up being good value, I’d take that in a heartbeat.
02:45 I don't think anything except God can prevent Sony Vegas from crashing. yet it's still my favourite. also you can install an auto save plugin for Vegas.
Looks good, but for you... 5900x would have been better. And it costs pretty much excactly the same (currently about 200€) I upgraded three 2700x based systems, two with 5800X3D and one with 5900x. The 5900x beats the former in everything i play(some games would still be better on the X3D parts) and absolutely demolishes the 5800x3d in production. Sad no reviewers show it anymore. it has 2/3 of the v-cahce of the X3D (instead of 1/3 like single CCD chips), but much higher clock speeds. My systems regularly boosts to 5+ Ghz and can handle 4.8 all-core with PBO. Regardless.. a great upgrade :)
You could easily run a 4070 Super on that psu (It's a quality psu, always checks amps of the psu and video card, just as important as watts) even a used 3070 would be quite an upgrade. I'd even run a vanilla "stock" 3080 on that psu. Ryzen cpu's sip power so you can use a "bigger" video card than if you were using an Intel cpu. For mining, I've been using a 3090 on a 700W psu and 2 x 3060ti's on a 650w psu for a couple of years with no issues. My gaming rig is a 5800x3d and 4090 on a 850w psu.
Woah! I’ll keep that in mind. Like I said in the vid hardware is something I’ve been away from for years now and felt power is something to be a little more generous with. I’ll take your word for it though along with many others and look into some options
You dont need to upgrade your PSU. Its quality unit and it will be good for todays mid range GPUs.. I own 5800x3d for two and half years and it serves me well. Try to undervolt your 5700x3d, it will work cooler with higher boost clock...
How do you spell “🤷🏽♂️” lol I thought about making a quick vid on mixing ram DIMMs. Plenty of people have done it before, but I never have. Other than that I don’t have an immediate use. I doubt I’ll throw together another rig using the parts since it’ll just sit and take up space
5700x3d is fine, it's pretty much a 5800x3d just slightly less. I'm not sure if it's great for productivity but it's good. You should see a reduction in time which is great that you have. For the games you play, 1070 is also fine. I'm skipping the AM5 platform altogether after upgrading to the 5800x3d. I might have to upgrade my graphics card bu that can kinda wait until next year or year after.
NEVER thought this video would pop off like this so I want to address a couple common questions.
1. Why an X3D chip if you don’t game all too much? Why not used 5900x?
Fair point, but I felt more comfortable buying brand new off the shelf and getting the best of both worlds instead of risking a used chip, which I’ve had varied experiences with used parts in the past. Plus I still link up with some guys here and there for a game night so it’s not a complete waste.
2. Why lower your refresh rate from 144hz to 100hz?
I didn’t my mean prolong in the sense that the parts would die faster if set at 144hz. I meant “prolong the usefulness of my parts”, because my original config had an easier time pumping a consistent solid 100fps with the more demanding-ish games I play as opposed to 144fps. At 144hz I would notice stutters and drops that felt less comfortable to me than just cruising at 100hz.
3. 650W isn’t enough for a new GPU?
Like I said I’ve been out of the hardware world for about 5 years and haven’t been SUPER interested in a new card. I did eye up some 7800XT’s since the price was attractive and I saw minimum recommended power of 700W. Then many in the comments said to look into 4070’s it 4070 Supers, which will be O.K. with 650W.
I like to be decently above the minimum recommendations personally, in the past I was definitely an over clock tinkerer. These days it seems like everyone just runs on auto settings so maybe a 4070 or Super would be alright.
THANK YOU for the random sudden influx of views and comments. I APPRECIATE it and welcome your inputs and discussions! I’m not an expert in anything by any means lol.
your 650w PSU would cover a 4070 although some 4070 models use the 12 volt highpower plug. if you choose a model with this connector type, make sure your PSU is ATX 3.0 in spec. if your current PSU isnt ATX 3.0, then simply select a 4070 that has standard PCIE 6+2 connectors
@@jeremyhunter5954 Most cards come with the adapter for two standard pci-e 6+2 to the high power adapter. Its been long enough since the connector melt downs that I suspect the oem adapters being sold with new cards are ok. 4070 super is still a good card as long as you can get it for a reasonable price. Holiday season wiped supply out for a bit as well as limited supply due to 5000 series about to launch. You can argue both ways about upgrading right now. While we are at the end of the cycle for gpus if the tariffs hit big when the new administration takes office then expect huge cost increases on all electronics. So the potential for shortages and huge price hikes is just around the corner which means waiting for new designs could be a mistake if you have a strict budget.
Look for a resonably close microcenter store. They typically have some good deals and its a nice change of pace to actually go into a place versus the online ordering we've all been converting to. I just refreshed a machine and the 5700x3d was $179 and the 5800xt was $199 there. Its an hour drive for me but good to fill time on a saturday and you can get parts on a whim. You can also order online and just pickup at their counter if you prefer to avoid people. Also returns process is easy there. They didn't give me the run around on a flaky video card so I was pleased with their service. While your stuttes could have been the video card not keeping up I would also highly advise to buy a few display port cables and try them. Sometimes high refresh rate (especially on my 4k monitors) need better cables. I had to go through a couple because they caused strange problems. Keep the cable length as short as you can get away with. I am not familiar with your editing software (i use power director) but many you can enable gpu encoding. I've done some testing and when enabled it cuts my cpu processing in half or more (you can use the resource monitor in windows). In my case nvidia cards are the most compatible and is cuts my render times in half. So see if you have that option and if so enable it and try it out. Some will argue that cpu encode is better quality but you can try both methods and see the results for yourself. In my case I saw no difference in quality and youtube will lower the quality some anyway. Have fun with your refreshed machine!
Now it seems like the main thing people worry about is underclocking.
Holdon. Wait for RTX 5070 or RX 9070 XT. Reviews coming soon. For RTX 50 GPUs should be around the end of January or first half of February.
Also‚ you might be able to catch a 4070/4070 Super or RX 7800 XT on a discount‚ or even lower price on used market. OFC‚ if no other crisis will f things around again (like Crypto did).
I am staying on AM4. Recently upgraded to 4000MHz Ram on a R5 5600X3D. Happy with the results.
Are you running infinity fabric and memory controller 1:1?
Most of the chips stops at 3800MHz, unless you really have a super-golden CPU you're probably not running in sync with the memory
max is ~3800mhz at 1:1
@andrexskin I am actually running infinity fabric at 2000MHz and so far it has been stable with no issues.
@@D71Gaming did you test it?
Well as long as it works should be okay, got an unicorn
@andrexskin Yup HWInfo shows frequency at 4000MHz and infinity fabric at 2000MHz. Ran Steel Nomad and Time Spy with no issues. Also been playing Wukong and POE 2.
This is my level of pc hardware "enthusiasm". Sensible, minor upgrades, older games, etc. I'll give ya a sub for a while and see where this goes.
Greetings from frozen hell, Alaska. Don't let ur meat loaf.
Amen brother 🤝🏼 I don’t know where we’re going, but I appreciate the kind words
Loved the video and this coment! ❤
BTW, I got 650w psu too and it run fine with 5700x3d/ 7900xt. My Video card is slightly under volt/under clock to keep the heat down. 5700x3d is a beast in gaming. Enjoy your new CPU Bud!
I just upgraded from a 5600x and a 6700xt to a 5700x3d and a 7900xtx. I now feel comfortable waiting for AM6
I’ll be right behind ya! I didn’t feel like dropping all the money in one shot to do a GPU too. Maybe gonna wait a couple months
@@the_over_thinker_ wait for the 8000 series gpu from AMD
@@JoeyYTB it is a 9070 not 8900
I’m putting together a 7800xt and 5600x as we speak. I probably should have went with the 5700x3d like you but as this is my first build ever, I decided to spend less on the CPU on the first go and then upgrade after I get comfortable with using a PC again.
@piza122 9070 ? what are u talking about my brotha 🙏
Watched this twice. Presentation, delivery, very no nonsense. Glad you're getting an influx of views! Cheers!
You’re too kind. Thank you
The 5700 X3D is a fantastic upgrade if you are still on am4. With that 1070 TI gpu, you're not going to see a huge increase in gaming performance simply because the GPU is the bottleneck. But you will experience much smoother frame rates regardless of that. Nice video thank you for sharing.
Agree! And thank you for the kind words. You’re right about the 1070Ti. I just didn’t want to drop close to a grand in one shot giving everything a good tune up.
Originally I was looking at some 7800XT’s but after a handful of comments I might eye up a 4070 or super instead
@@the_over_thinker_ If you can spring for it the 4070 Ti Super is a great card, but of course really solid raster performance is available via the 7800XT if you're not interesting ray-tracing etc.
@@the_over_thinker_ 7800xt is a workhorse. Battlefront 2 nets me about 100fps at 4k max.
@@MarkHyde i would wait a couple of hours and see what nvidia will present. the 4070 ti is a pricey upgrade for that setup.
@@distiking Agree but I don't think NVIDIW will release a 50 series WITHOUT increasing prices - that's been their pattern so why wait if you're just going to pay more for LESS again? i.e. low tier cards performing at higher prices when 40 series cards had more features for less.
My wife and I did the same. I was in a 2017 build with R5 1600 @3,9ghz 16go ddr4 and gtx1080. My wife had a R5 2600@stock 16go ddr4 and rtx 2060 built in 2019. Just yesterday I upgraded both with 5700x3d +2x16go ddr4 exam same kit as you. You can't even imagine the change, it is night and day difference. I was on intel before and when ryzen showed up, I knew I had to build a new PC, so with my x370 board from 2017, I can still be up to date, thanks to AM4. I love it. Next step is the GPU for both of us, probably and 7800xt with new gpus coming, maybe prices will be good. Awesome value frames per money per year if you ask me. AM4 ruled those last 7 or 8 years. I will wait for AM6 now to rebuild our PCs and hope it will last more than a decad with lil upgrade along the run 😊
I was eyeing up some 7800XT’s too, but I’m undecided what the next move will be at this point. Gonna wait a couple months. It’s nice you got a wife that’s into some nerd stuff too. Hold on to her!
Pretty nice upgrade. I'm probably going to stay on am4 until am6 comes out and matures a little. Rocking a ryzen 7 5800x3d, 32 gb of ram, and an rtx 3080. I'll occasionally play newer harder to run games, but I mainly play games from the late 2000s to early 2010s. Still the best era of games imo. Just finished gta 4 and man what an amazing game it is!
tbh you would need a bigger GPU to justify moving off AM4, and then you just end up moving to 4k gaming
I got a 4090 and that's what happened to me as it was mostly idling at 1440p. Even then a 5800x3d is fine, and the gains from faster CPUs at 4k is marginal.
@@surfx4804 I might upgrade to the 5070 ti if the performance jump is good enough and hand down my 3080 to my brother.
@@CoolCraig31 Yea that would be a good fit. Raw performance looks like 4070 Ti + 20% which is almost a 4080, and you get better RT and FG.
that 650W is FIIIIINNNNEEEEE with even a 7900XT / 4070S. No sweat
Exactly, even my seasonic 550w 80+ platinum runs at ease the 5700x3d 7800xt with max 400w consumption, no sweat at all
@@teos17 So 550w is fine ?
Like if I pair a 3070 ti and 57003dx or with a 7800xt.
I thought these cards don't actually use much power but there are spikes that's why you need 700w or something
@@qamararfin7534 it is recommended to use i bit higher wattage for the spikes for sure yes, but regarding the specific model i use and since is platinum it can handle it pretty well, the 400w is the regular gaming session and it can spike up to 450w but it's very occasionally.
Better not to use less than 700w especially if its a non brand or a bit low quality
You should definitely have more headroom than needed when choosing a psu
@@teos17 what about Corsair VS 550 80 plus.
I just went from a R 5 3600 with 16GB ram and GTX 1080 FTW2 to a R7 5700x with 64GB ram and RTX 4080 super on an ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus Wifi 2 motherboard, I am very very happy with the results and do not see myself upgrading anytime soon. I play on an ultrawide 3440x1400 LG OLED G39 monitor and get anywhere from 135 to 295+ FPS depending on what game I am playing at the time!!!! Great video by the way!!!!!
@@michaeldejesus7576 the 3600 is legendary I feel like every am4 user bought one. I did back in 2020 and I only replaced it in 2023 when my workloads changed, I am still using it to run MacOS on it, still going strong
I have a 5800x3d and honestly.. I pity people who have the upgrade bug, always staying on top, worrying about performance during a time where optimization is not something most devs care about lately.
AM4 is a perfectly fine and capable platform. I love it.
Oh btw: im rocking a 650w power supply with a 3070 ti lol. Undevolted it though, because that GPU gets loud and hot. You're more than fine keeping your power supply.
if they can fix the driver overhead issue, the intel b580 would be a very nice upgrade for that system
Not with a B350 motherboard (PCIe3).
@@RANDOMNATION907 All AM4 chipsets except x570 and b550 are only pcie 3.0, it runs fine.
@@Ray-dx2pf No sh!t, Sherlock. ARC cards run like absolute Crap on PCIe3 limited systems.
I also replaced my 3600X for the 5800X3D a year back, and it was definitely noticeable. I don't really game much either but the stuttering i had with the 3600X were no longer there. Brought new life to my AM4 system.
I upgraded from a 3700X to 5700X3D earlier this year and the upgrade in games especially 1% lows was HUGE, stuttering eliminated, later in the year I upgraded from 5700XT to 4070 Super and 16gb to 32gb ram, now that upgrade was immense, the 4070 Super uses exactly the same power as the 5700XT (220w) and even lower undervolted (well under 200w) with no loss in performance, I used my old parts to upgrade my stepsons PC which he only uses for Fortnite and Football/F1 manager with the 3700X and 5700XT, gotta love AM4's longevity.
Great video, good luck with your channel. 👍
I'm on the same boat, I'm upgrading from an AMD 2700x. To me, it's just wild that I can still purchase components that are up to today's specs with a motherboard that is about 7 years old. While I think the 5700X3D will be the last upgrade for the AM4 platform (personally), it's amazing I was able to get about 10 years from every other component. I feel like for the past 20 or so years, everytime I put a PC together within 3 years or so it was completely obsolete!
Can't wait! Just upgraded my bios last night to make sure I can just pop in the chip and I'm G2G.
HAHAHAHA The Vegas part is so REAL. Vegas pro user here! I thought I am the only one who's experiencing frequent crashes and pressing ctrl + s every 5 seconds
Tell me about it man, lol. Maybe if I stop ignoring the “upgrade to Vegas PRO (whatever number)” it’ll stop as much. But I don’t post enough stuff to feel good dropping the dough. Cash can be tight these days
@@the_over_thinker_ True. It is expensive yeah, I have Vegas 18 and my CPU is an i7 from 2013 (Xeon E3-1270 v3). So that might be the reason why
love love love this cpu! am4 will last forever with this little beast.
Thank you for this informative video
Excellent video and often affordable incremental upgrades are the way to go when solid sales deals are available imo.
Couldn’t agree more. I’m definitely a bargain deal and incremental type of guy. With how customizable computers are I’ll definitely be doing upgrades piece by piece
@@the_over_thinker_ Up until this year I was that kind of computer user - but I had the capacity to fully platform upgrade and haven't looked back. But it is the way to go when AMD had such long term shelf life for it's platform support re CPUs.
AM4 has been a brilliant platform for me. I switched from a Z70 that started as a 3rd gen i5 but ended up stuck for much of it's life as a 4th gen i7. I bought a B450 Tomahawk Max PCB because a friend was upgrading their 1700 to a 3700X back in Nov 2019 and sold me the 1700 for 80 Quid. By the time I sold the PCB, DDR3 and SATA M2 drive I more or less got the upgrade for the £100 I paid for the board. Faster core for core chip than the i7 and 8 of 'em, DDR4 and an NVMe, blew me away with how much faster the computer was for so little money spent. I've only replaced the CPU once so far, I swapped the Zen part for an R5 5500, it was about 100 quid a year and a half ago. I have upped the RAM to 32GB since, and added more SS storage. Oh, and one of those cheap Thermalright tower coolers (it's all you need up to 8 cores on AM4, especially on the 3D chips). I have been thinking of one of these chips, as my computer's final Pokemon evolution to just keep me ticking over until I get a look at AM6.
Yes you need a smaller capacity usb for Fat, 32gb iirc.
5 years & a half? Sir, u actually had a great am4 platform serves u so well. Perhaps now another 5 years. Before a major upgrade like am5 (or intel). Being that said, AMD doing great work there.
Congratulations on ur upgrade.
Just yesterday I did a really meaningless upgrade (on paper) from 5600x to 5700X3D. I play a couple of CPU heavy games and already felt like I got my money's worth: in The Finals my avg fps rose about 10-15% but my 1% lows are probably 30% higher, and because of that, the game is feeling a lot smoother. GPU (3070ti) utilization is also around 93-96% whereas previously it was 85-90% majority of the time because the CPU was keeping me from getting those sweet, sweet frames.
FAT32 works with up to 32 gig drives. Thank the gods my bios upgrade went smooth as butter. I really hate troubleshooting HW stuff since I'm not well versed in all that stuff.
Looking at your upgrade from the productivity side, a 5700x or 5800x would've probably been a marginally better upgrade, since those CPUs seem to do better in productivity benchmarks I've seen. Higher clock speed maybe? Tho the 3D cache is really good for gaming and is definitely the better choice in the long run.
Why did I write all these obvious things in a really long comment by youtube standards? For the algorithm, I guess? Good, tight editing and pleasant sound. All the best to you and everyone else who happens to read this comment.
Not a bad increase for yourself! Especially if you sell the 5600x to eat some of the upgrade cost
As someone with a 5600x i really hate reading this comment 😂
at the start of the video, i thought it was gonna be some shit, low subscriber channel, but a few minutes in, i absolutely love the pacing and editing. also having your monitor at 144hz 24/7 won’t affect your parts at all
I gotcha, I meant that I lock it at 100hz since the older parts had an easier time pumping out a consistent framerate. At 144hz I was noticing some dips
@@the_over_thinker_ There is no point in doing that, you're just losing the desktop smoothness. Instead, install RTSS and limit in-game fps.
@ I’ll have to look into that, I’m not familiar with RTSS
@@the_over_thinker_ Don't bother with rtss, completely destroys ur 0.1 lows just having it on
@@the_over_thinker_you can set your refresh rate to the max, most games will have an fps limiter, or you can use MSI afterburner with riva tuner to lock the frame rate of games specifically. Locking the max frame rate in games can really help with those dips and it will be smoother and not stress the hardware as much
Gave my brother my old 5600x and swaped to a 5800x3d last year and Im really happy with the preformance for the little amout of cash invested. Hope to keep using it with good results for atleast 2 more years :)
So happy upgraded my 3600/ 3060ti to 5700X3D/ 7800XT with the same B450 motherboard. This will last another 2 years at least playing 1440p game in good fps
same but with 4070 super and same mobo, does it run stable with the B450?
I’d suggest getting a 6700xt or 6800 with the power supply you have. You’ll have plenty for the year’s upcoming. Great episode, keep up the good work!
Thank you! Originally I was looking at some 7800XT’s which recommend 700w, but many others in the comments were saying to look at 4070’s and supers on the Nvidia side. Not sure what the choice will be, but it’s probably a couple months out at least. I’ll keep those options in mind too
I appreciate the prompt response! The good thing and bad thing about now is the all the options. However, upon reviewing and some personal experience, older amd has the vram and bang for buck. That being said l’m not biased as l was more nvidia in the past and have both brands. That being said, we all might have intel gpus if time and restocks?! lol only time will tell! Sorry for the long response and have a good night!
As someone who was super resistant to switch to Resolve from Premiere for several years, I gotta say it was FAR easier and nicer to move over than I was expecting. It's similar to learning how to drive. The car you drive is different than the other cars on the road, but all the important parts are where they belong and they all still work in pretty much the same way. I still have more to learn but I'm confident I can get it all down no problem. My latest videos are in Resolve and you wouldn't even know something changed.
Resolve would definitely be my first choice and I have given it an attempt in a few times in the past. With enough time and practice I’d definitely get used to it
Awesome content! Looking forward for more!
weird that you wouldn't update bios directly from well... bios as u did in the end, considering u already had a working cpu
The 650W Platinum PSU you have is more than enough for a new GPU in my opinion. I have a 650W Gold PSU and I just recently got an RTX 4070. There was only one game that would always crash my computer at least once but I did a really simple undervolt to decrease power consumption and now it runs perfectly. Just something to keep in mind.
Great video though! I also got that same CPU along with my new GPU upgrade 👍
650 is almost the bare minimum. you should probably go with 750 or 800 to be safe. don’t get me wrong, anything above 1000 watts is pretty pointless, but if you’re gonna run a card like that, 650 watts is kinda low
I will keep that in mind whenever I’d get around to swapping out the 1070Ti. Depending on what looks good at the time I’ll search up a wattage calculator and see what makes the most sense
@@hoodlesss I use 550w PSUs on two of my systems. One system is based on a 13400f and a RX 7700 XT GPU (230w TDP). The other system is a 5700x3d and a RX 6700 XT (Also 230w TDP). Even when you take the power spikes into consideration these 550w PSUs still has plenty to go on. The reason GPU manufacturers recommend oversized PSUs is because they don't know what systems people have. Most CPUs are between 65w-100w. However, something like an i9 14900K can go well past 200 watts. PSU calculators are pretty accurate I've found. As long as you have a modern good quality PSU then there is no need to go for insane wattage. A good/decent 650 watt PSU can easily drive a RX 7900 XTX or a RTX 4080 Super.
@@larsenmats to handle that amount of power at that little wattage, you would most likely need a platinum or higher psu. just going for a gold 750 or 800 would be cheaper and more reliable than a 650 platinum imo. everyone obviously has their own opinions, so i think it’s up to the person. me personally, i would go with a higher wattage psu just to be safe. i can also upgrade in the future without having to worry about getting another power supply
@@hoodlesss nope. Bronze is fine. most decent 550w PSUs can deliver between 520 to 550w on the +12v. Systems like I described over typically max out at 350 watt max usage. But more normal up to 300 watts. So you'd still have 200 to 250 watts headroom. No need to go for huge PSUs when not needed.
I upgraded from a 2600x that would always run at like 100 degrees, huge upgrade for gaming
I just upgraded from 5600 + RTX 2070 + 16GB to 5700X3D + RTX 4070 + 32GB! Prolonging my rig as much as possible
Just built my new PC. Ran a prebuilt for 8 years with an i7-7700K with a GTX 1060ti in it. New PC I built has a 5700X3D. Currently have it paired with an RX7600 but eventually going to be getting a 7800XT. I couldn't be happier.
Only going to be playing 1080p but I'd rather have too much than not enough.
Maybe consider a nice 1440p screen if you like visuals over fps. Often this can be a great upgrade to the whole experience.
@@surfx4804 yeah I MIGHT get a better monitor after I get my 7800XT. Currently using a 27 inch 1080p curved monitor
I went full AMD for my recent build 7600x3d and 7600 xt GPU, amazing combo all built for less than 1200 usd
The new amd and nvidia gpus will be releasing soon. I'd highly recommend you wait until the benchmarks for the new cards come out so you can get good value for your money and all the new tech those new cards come with. This is also for anyone who is looking into buying a new card for theyre rigs.
Great vid btw, Hope to see more of this style of content in the future.
Thank you! I’m just winging it and still figuring out what this channel is. Glad you enjoyed it
great choice
you can also shrink the partition size in windows to anything smaller than 4gb. Leave the remainder as unallocated space. You will be able to format the partition to FAT this way.
Loved the video, and my own journey with PCs has some parallels with yours, CPU and GPU :)
On your PC
- The 5700x3d won't do much with the 1070Ti but it will now handle a much more powerful GPU. Though I do find things get smoother.
- You could use something like "PBO2 Tuner" with the 5700x3d but in my own tests the 5700x3d is pretty well setup and benefit is marginal (my 5700x3d is at -30 all cores will run at 4050Hz maxed out, 13700 in CBR23 vs stock at 13600)
- Power wise your CPU+bits will probably be around 150w, which leaves you 500w for a GPU. And if you undervolt the GPU you will get smoother performance and easily come in under 300w. However, the PSU needs 2x8pins and I suspect 650w won't have these.
- I'd look at a RTX3080 or similar level as this is a great 1440p experience. That's what I have paired with my 5700x3d in a cheap B550 board. Look at AMD unless you need raytracing.
How high could you go? Well in my main PC I run a B550+5800x3d+RTX4090+4k Monitor, and it does great. I don't see much benefit upgrading the CPU yet as my monitor (LGC2) tops out at 120Hz and that's fine for my old eyes. BTW my 4090 pulls 350w tops as I have it undervolted, and I lost only a few % performance.
On the USB flashback thing - I always run a "Clean" on the usb via DISKPART, that has fixed some problems I have had (just make sure you don't clean your PC drives)
BTW my original cheap MSI B450 board is still in operation with a 5800x (don't ask) and my old 1070Ti. It started with a 2600x which I broke, then 3700x.
Thank you for the insight! I’m definitely more of a gradual upgrade kind of guy instead of dropping a big wad of cash all at once so there’s still time to decide.
I didn’t expect this little video to get the attention it has already. Lost of good information in these comments though which is great!
@@the_over_thinker_ Hopefully you get some subs.
And I am very much an upgrade person too.. and I seldom throw old stuff away until it becomes totally useless.
BTW I got the 5700x3d for £112 prior to Xmas, off AliExpress, which was like a bargain I could not pass up and worst case I lost £112. AM4 must be one of best value platforms ever.
Loving my 5700x3D ❤ massive improvement to City Skylines which I play the most 😂 the 5600 gave me massive stutters in that game. Handed it down to my sister along with my RX 5600XT. Now I use my old R5 3600 + GTX 960 for work 😊 and 5700x3D for games ❤
I’ll have to try it out with City. Haven’t touched that one in a while
As an engineer at AMD your video makes me smile. We want our customers to be happy at all price points!
Thank you sir. I was looking into some video cards from the red team also. Haven’t made a decision yet. A couple months will pass before I do, most likely. Cheers for delivering great products geared for the average folk out here!
Just upgraded my 5700g to the 5700x3d 🎉
im still using r5 5600G with 32gb ram.... well it does my work well. but for some reason my ram dont want to run 3200Hz and running 3000Hz, when i change it to 3200Hz the pc shows blue screen. hope someone can help me with this. 🙂🙂
Just upgraded many family PC's this season and had similar experience. MSI B450 with a 2600x to a 5800x (hand me down cpu). No boot. It was a 2018 bios. Had to pop in the 2600 and flash and then swap in the 5800x. Another machine was a msi 470x that has a 3600x that was upgraded to a new 5700x3d. That one went smooth other than I tried to do a traditional overclock using PBO and after 30 minutes of failing to get the bios to overclock I found out the 5700x3d is basically a locked chip. Only could tinker with power draws. These two machines were then pitted against each other in cinebench and the 5800x (overclocked with PBO) handily beat the 5700x3d as expected (something like 15800 to 13700 in R23). So this video's main criteria (video editing with gaming secondary) would have been better served by a 5800x or 5800xt ($199) which is only $20 more than the 5700x3d currently at microcenter. As far as the 64gb ddr4 upgrade in the video the timings on that memory were not great and I am not sure that the additional speed of 3600 would beat 3200 with tighter timings. Might be able to run that ram at 3200 with tighter timings.
You can tune the 5700x3d using PBO2 Tuner software, but the results are minimal. I gained ~100pts in CB-R23 though temps are lower. (use corecycler to test if doing that)
With the 5800x it is definitely worth spending the time to undervolt each core. Not least because the MSI B450 VRM can get hot (depends on which board). I run a 5800x on a B450M PRO-VDH and with its little heatsink and undervolting it does fine, cooled by a Freezer 36 air cooler.
@@surfx4804 Since these are going to be passed down to nephews I didn't want to use a software tuner. More things to have to troubleshoot later. I bios tune and prime95 (overnight run) until I hit around 75C max which leaves headroom for when they don't blow the dust out of the systems. I have 3 5800x and the one 5700x3d that are moving on (b450, 470x, and two b550 boards) and I spruced them up with new cases and new arctic liquid freezer iii 280's. So a few hundred extra per machine and they will live on for the next 3-4 years until I do my own (personal, wife, daughter, work pcs) next refresh.
It's a solid CPU, for sure. However, you could still upgrade your GPU to something within a similar TDP of around 150W - 200W. For instance, the RX 6800 16GB from AMD would be a worthwhile upgrade, as the used market for these cards is within the $400 range, while performing over 70% better. Just an option.
FAT32 in Windows has maxed out at 32GB historically. They lifted the restriction in August, but it is exclusive to Windows 11 (I think). As i understand it the format maxes out at 2 TB, so it was just Windows being Windows.
A 4070 Super would work perfectly fine with that PSU, it's basically the fastest card that can safely run on a 650W PSU
Originally I was looking into an AMD 7800XT but after a handful of similar comments I started eyeing up 4070’s and Supers. Like I said in the vid I haven’t kept up much with hardware for about 5 years and didn’t realize those cards were still pretty efficient. I thought they’d be in the 750w range. Thank you for the recommendation!
@@the_over_thinker_ Yeah cards are still plenty efficient you just gotta research a bit, the 4070 Super is vastly better than base 4070 though, it basically gives you 3090 levels of performance with nearly half the tdp, it's also better for productivity in general compared to AMD cards.
i went with 850w for my 4070S for power efficiency and a native 12VHP cable
I have a friend who uses R5 5600 6800xt with 650w psu, there will be no problem. Although new GPUs are more powerful, they are also efficient.
Today, the new "RX 9070XT" will be introduced and if its price is reasonable, it will be the next generation suitable GPU.
I sidegraded to the 5700x3d from a 5800x. The biggest difference is the .1 fps is higher so my games feel way smoother.
I got 5700x3d for $150 which was a steal, also recently bought a used 3070 and it works fine with my bronze 620w psu, so you will be fine I guess. The 4000 series is even more power efficient. I upgraded from 2600 ryzen and gtx 1070. I love how much mileage I got from my original parts.
@@YummyCore I like your last sentence. That’s my mentality m too. I get a lot of satisfaction knowing I’ve stretched my dollar for many years with a given item
I did the same thing!! haha
Totally fine. Your PC is probably consuming maybe 350w total at full CPU & GPU load.
does your 3070 have stuttering issues on games like warzone?
@SciK. No, not even slightly.
I play around 120-170fps all day no problem.
1% lows around 100-111 when at around 120-130
and around 128 1% lows around 150-170
Great choice from 3600x. I upgraded to 5700x3d too with 450mobo. 32ram for gaming with 7900xt. No Intel or Ngreedia anymore. AMD cares unlike Ngreedia.
Great video!! Love to see a realistic parts upgrade, not everyone needs a 4090 for their daily use.
Thanks! I’m definitely not made of money. I search for the bargain upgrade! Glad you enjoyed it
I was running a 5700x3D and 6800xt with evga gt 650 for months but got a good deal on 1000w so I upgraded to that . I had the 6800xt oc and undervoted . That uses more than the 7800xt
650W is really capable, you could afford to run a 4070 SUPER
Vegas pro works fine for me. I got a ryzen 5600x and works well. 32gb ram and no issues .
What version do you run my man? Probably not Vegas 15 if it works that well lol
I just picked one of these on AliExpress for $140 which has got to be the best value cpu of all time.
Not bad at all! Hope you enjoy your time using it
You could upgrade from the 1070 ti to the 4070 with that PSU, it only uses 20 more watts
this is like a friend - went from R5 3600 and RTX 2060 to R7 5700x3d and an RX 7800xt.
I was looking into 7800XT’s also
A quality it is.🎉
I started with a 3600x + 2070super back in 2020, then i found out most games were bottlenecking the 3600 so i got a R9 5900x and finally got my self a 3090, my dream GPU
damn bro i started with a ryzen 3 3200g and a gtx 1650 SUPER back in 2020. Even then it wasnt that bad until the APU couldnt handle anything I threw at it anymore.
@SciK. The beauty of the AM4 platform still make it a viable upgrade path even today, happy to have invested in AMD's AM4 rather than intel
@raevod6361 I upgraded to am5 but yes that’s very true.
What do you think the bottleneck would be on a 5700x3d? Thinking about upgrading from a 2060 to 5080
in general, you rarely need x3d unless you need really high framerates (usually at 1080p gaming). some video editing benefits from it, but it is minor compared to more power and more threads of a regular R9
I agree. While games weren't my highest priority when considering this upgrade, I do prefer higher frames over higher resolutions. Plus I still game SOMETIMES just not as much as I did as a teenager. A lot of people in the comments seem confused why I went X3D instead of a vanilla 5700X or 5800X. The price was just too attractive, and I get the better if both worlds as far as productivity and games. If I just wanted better game performance obviously a new GPU would've come first.
I also didn't expect this vid to pop off like this at all lol. But it's cool to see a lot of discussion going on in here!
Kicking around throwing one of these in to replace my 5600x, PC runs really well overall with a 3070 and 64gb ram.
Went from a 1600x to a 5700x3d, safe to say it was a decent upgrade 😁
keep up the videos please
Hey I use the 5700x3d and I have it paired with a 7800xt. I ALSO have a 650w psu with it and have 0 problems. If you truly wanted to upgrade you would be fine as long as you didn’t jump to like a 4080 or something crazy high end
I just upgraded from an R5 1600 to the R7 5700X3D. I’m still rocking a GTX 1080 and games are not as choppy anymore!
I've never gotten the BIOS button to work. I just gave up when I read "You need an old thumb drive. Newer ones won't work."
Still running a 970 from 2025 for poe2, it does maps at 12-24fps 😅
Hopefully upgrading my whole setup this year
hey just wanted to check you said you need a new power supply for a new graphics card? the 1070 ti that you use has a tdp of 180w, a 4070 i.e. has a tdp of 200w. i strongly doubt you need a new PS for 20w more tdp. the 5700x3d paired with a 4070 is a strong combo. but if you only play older games anyway it doesnt matter i guess.
Your last sentence is my philosophy at this point. I don’t have an interest in spending the money right now in that when I won’t see an immediate benefit
when performing a BIOS update with many diff types of thumb drives (i have the same PNY drive you have), you should go into partition manager and create a second partition with a capacity of 16gb or less. format the 16gb partition as fat 32 (this option will appear with the smaller partition size. then you can copy your renamed BIOS image and use the flashback button
which cabinet you have bro
Just a heads up that you CAN format that USB drive to FAT32. Windows natively does not allow it to a certain size. But there are plenty of ways to circumvent that. Do note that it takes forever to format.
I don't know if Vegas had the option (i use Adobe After Effects and Premiere), but for me, moving the cache folders to a separate cheap ssd made a huge difference in performance. Maybe you can give it a try.
I have tried that actually, and it does seem to help. But this swap has already helped a lot
I too am planning to upgrade my 5600X to a 5700X3D, since I'm also planning to upgrade my RTX 3070 to maybe the upcoming RX 9070 XT. My 5600X will bottleneck current generation GPUs. I'm still sticking with my AM4 platform and will probably get a new build when AM6 comes out. I'm only aiming to play upcoming titles (Spiderman 2, FF7 Rebirth) in 1440p optimised max settings. The 8GB of VRAM of my 3070 is finally holding me back. Can't even use High Textures on Indiana Jones and The Great Circle...
3:05 man i understand you completely, i've been using Vegas since i was 14 (almost 15 years ago) and i swear i dread learning any new editing program even if it is miles better just because i know vegas like i know myself lol
I have the 2600 now I’m pretty new to PC gaming or PCs in general and I’m scared to death of upgrading the bios so I can put a nvme SSD in there
Wondering why you went with the X3D with 3D Vcache instead of more cores if you dont game much?
I don’t even edit all that much to be fair too lol. You’re right I could have gotten a 5900x for a similar price. But for me there’s value in getting a brand new part and get the best of both worlds.
Just in case I get that itch to dabble more in newer games again. Plus I still link up with some of my guys for a game night too, so I don’t see it as a complete waste. I just meant that gaming isn’t my highest priority right now
@the_over_thinker_ Fair enough.
i have 600w psu any suggestion for gpu to pair with this 5700x3d
Im pretty sure u can go up to 4070 ti super/7900XT and should be fine.
Hey uh man you got a new sub AKA me!
what are your idle temperatures?. i have like 60-70 C°, and i dont know if its normal in this cpu because my system cooler is very good
you 100% can cap at 144hz, id even buy a cheaper 1080p 240hz monitor and use that. i got mine for 140$ on amazon and its very nice. id even consider an rx 7600 for around 250 it has a TDP of 165w and your 5700x3d has a TDP of 105w which would be perfectly fine for your power supply. you'd have a beast of a pc for a while
One thing you may have missed is several AM4 bios drives need to be a USB 2 speed. I have one specifically just for AM4 bios updates.
Correct, the first time I plugged in the stick I actually didn’t notice that, but there was a port dedicated to the BiOS flash
@@the_over_thinker_ yes. That is true. But I've had them work on any. Not sure why somebody made it that way, but 5 hours of research for my son and I had a random on Reddit with that as his answer. The only time AM4 made me disappointed.
u can partition like 32 or even 64gb of storage and format it to fat32, so u can update bios without a flash drive
Switched aswell from a R5 3600+16gb 3000mhz to 5700x3d+32gb 3600mhz on my Asus B450F Gaming 2.
Funny though, when I bought the R5 3600 during the pandemic. The price was same as I bought my 5700x3d last month. 😂
I'm on i7 8700k+gtx1080 rn and thinking about upgrading to 5700x3d and cheapest mobo I can find (spending around 270€ for both). Many friend suggest me to go directly to am5 without 3d but I insist that, as I play mainly Tarkov, it's almost crucial to have 3d. What do you think?
5700x3D best cheapest upgrade, you have the rendering stats in description haw much frames has the video? only for kompare with my rendering with ryzen 5 5600g and kdenlive at linux
@@8BitRetroRabbit I just checked and only 10,753 frames. Real life video I prefer 24fps especially with 4K. Not because it’s “cinematic” but because it takes up less space lol. Plus if I ever want to do a twinge of slow motion I can set the camera to 30fps and slow it down 20%. I rarely do that but the option’s there
@@the_over_thinker_ how can it have only 10k? okay ... ah 30fps thats why (: my ryzen 5 5600g needs 22min for my videos (its music videos it have more fps/frames 40-50k depends on length at 7min songs its round about 8-14k frames and i need 8minutes (no i not upload in 4k i just tested it in 4k for 4k is my LTE connection much to slow max i can use is 1080p with compressed files i render with 25-45fps normal and at rendering i have at 1080p 22-250-2000fps depends on renderer and resolution (: yes in linux you render with cpu not like windows with gpu good to know i think i upgrade too too the 5700x but because im on linux not the 3D its mosttoimes useless in linux)
How high temps you hit? I jumped from the same cpu to a 5800x3d using the same cooler. Enjoy.
you could easily upgrade to a 4060ti or perhaps 5060 when it comes out and if it has similar power draw as the 4060,
AMD is amazing, without their Ryzen we would be buying Intel that is 3-5x more expensive than it's price now
One could call this setup unbalanced, but i ran the same 1070 Ti with a ryzen 7700x for a good 6-7 months because the 1070 Ti was all I could afford. Played Battlefront II 2017 pretty well at 1050p (when it didnt trip the overvoltage protection due to my shitty 650w evga n1 psu) once i went 1440p the game dropped to
(Im oxiti8 on battlefront II if you ever spotted me on the us virginia servers)
I was kind of eyeing up a 4070 / 4070 super. Thought about an AMD GPU for a little bit like 7800XT but I’m undecided still. Probably won’t drop the money on it for another couple months or so
@@the_over_thinker_ Out of those options, I’d say the 7800 XT but that all depends on the pricing of the 9070 XT- if that card ends up being good value, I’d take that in a heartbeat.
02:45 I don't think anything except God can prevent Sony Vegas from crashing. yet it's still my favourite. also you can install an auto save plugin for Vegas.
Might have to do that. Ctrl+S is muscle memory at this point. Every now and then though I'll lose a few minutes of progress
Looks good, but for you... 5900x would have been better. And it costs pretty much excactly the same (currently about 200€)
I upgraded three 2700x based systems, two with 5800X3D and one with 5900x.
The 5900x beats the former in everything i play(some games would still be better on the X3D parts) and absolutely demolishes the 5800x3d in production.
Sad no reviewers show it anymore. it has 2/3 of the v-cahce of the X3D (instead of 1/3 like single CCD chips), but much higher clock speeds. My systems regularly boosts to 5+ Ghz and can handle 4.8 all-core with PBO.
Regardless.. a great upgrade :)
You could easily run a 4070 Super on that psu (It's a quality psu, always checks amps of the psu and video card, just as important as watts) even a used 3070 would be quite an upgrade. I'd even run a vanilla "stock" 3080 on that psu. Ryzen cpu's sip power so you can use a "bigger" video card than if you were using an Intel cpu. For mining, I've been using a 3090 on a 700W psu and 2 x 3060ti's on a 650w psu for a couple of years with no issues. My gaming rig is a 5800x3d and 4090 on a 850w psu.
Woah! I’ll keep that in mind. Like I said in the vid hardware is something I’ve been away from for years now and felt power is something to be a little more generous with. I’ll take your word for it though along with many others and look into some options
You dont need to upgrade your PSU. Its quality unit and it will be good for todays mid range GPUs.. I own 5800x3d for two and half years and it serves me well. Try to undervolt your 5700x3d, it will work cooler with higher boost clock...
Not sure you mentioned it but is there a reason you are still in windows 11?
sooo what are you going to do with the old ram
How do you spell “🤷🏽♂️”
lol I thought about making a quick vid on mixing ram DIMMs. Plenty of people have done it before, but I never have. Other than that I don’t have an immediate use. I doubt I’ll throw together another rig using the parts since it’ll just sit and take up space
@the_over_thinker_ that's actually a pretty good idea, do it.
well if you don't need em send em my way lol 😭
Arc B580 12GB could be fire if bought at MSRP
5700x3d is fine, it's pretty much a 5800x3d just slightly less. I'm not sure if it's great for productivity but it's good. You should see a reduction in time which is great that you have. For the games you play, 1070 is also fine. I'm skipping the AM5 platform altogether after upgrading to the 5800x3d. I might have to upgrade my graphics card bu that can kinda wait until next year or year after.