Breaking into a tight line NO EXTRA GEAR - Is this hardest Level 3 rope rescue?

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  • @TheRopeAccessChannel
    @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Well.. What do you think? A lot of hard work. I prefer to continue the 1:1 counterbalance it seem like a lot less work and resets and quicker to.

  • @hugotripp
    @hugotripp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Hard work! And I hope we agree that working like that inside a silo should never ever be considered... Prerigged pulley system or winch for passive work inside holes

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Hugo :-)
      We are 100% in agreement on that one! for sure!!

  • @claudeanthony468
    @claudeanthony468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your work mate, its great to practice all types of rescue scenarios on our jobs every system that we set up is on a rescue set plan so the system is mostly ready for rescue not many rope access technicians work of a rescue plan set up its the best way 🙂 Im enjoying your demos

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear, thank you!!
      That is the way I work too. There is always a rescue system prepared

  • @isaacnoel4022
    @isaacnoel4022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this, just found your channel and I’m very thankful as a brand new rope tech.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beautiful! Welcome to the ropes world😉🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @julienrivollet3654
    @julienrivollet3654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi ! I always have a capture pulley on my harness (the new Minitraxion to be precise) and a LOV3.
    LOV3 is really the key for everything.
    Just to be sure to never have to do all that hard job except for my L3 refreshments ! 😅
    Nice video Alex, as usual! 😉
    I wish you a happy new year.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy new year to you to Ju 😃😃
      And thank you🙏🏼🙏🏼
      Normally I also carry a few pieces of gear extra that make a rescue like this a lot easier if it would happen. I just make sure they dont by rigging for rescue 😜😜😜

  • @kiwionarope
    @kiwionarope 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a 118kg man, I usually weigh more then those on the line I need to break into so counter balancing them is easy, this is one of my favourite rescues I need to do.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      haha i can imagine!! In my last reassessment I did a lot of exercise with a big dude weighing 115kg.. I had a blast counterbalancing him and proving that it is mostly technique as I find it fairly easy to do with my own 77kg..

  • @paulnosek714
    @paulnosek714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the video man ❤ always good to see the old ways

  • @romangarcia7757
    @romangarcia7757 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    skill in handling PPE, knowledge and coordination. Greetings

  • @johanburger4454
    @johanburger4454 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Epic!!!Keep up the great work mate

  • @RopeLab
    @RopeLab 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Perhaps not taught anymore under IRATA, but it is still a requirement for SPRAT level 2 evaluations.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for that Richard. It is a good skill to learn. I'll update the description with this info🙏🏼

    • @maulidmrisho7745
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  • @charliebath8497
    @charliebath8497 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really nice all ways learning from your videos mate 😊

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you that is great to hear!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @simonthomson1631
    @simonthomson1631 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man you did well to demo such a cluttered rescue and not one pulley! I used to teach it but never on video and posted online so good on ya! I know you prefer the 1:1 (as do I) but how about just using the hand jammer anchored in the same way as the descender and roll the rope over a biner or pulley above the jammer? I prefer that style of 1:1 since the descender has so much friction. You would need a second rope clamp or Prussik to haul the rope into the jammer. As you say, plenty of ways to do it but it feels efficient to me. Nice work!

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much 🙏🏼
      That is exactly the way I show in the second video on this subject. (not out yet). I use a pulley and a Tibloc for that one extra.
      By the way I was not counterbalancing through the descender, but footloop over a biner. Like you say, the friction through the descender would be horrendous!

  • @aerialrescuesolutions3277
    @aerialrescuesolutions3277 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. Thank you, Alex.

  • @lewisrichards6572
    @lewisrichards6572 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video!

  • @samuelroos4769
    @samuelroos4769 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Could you make a comparison of this rescue with a little extra gear (think like a rollclip and a tibloc kind of gear, stuff you could easily always leave on your harness.maybe even a micro traxion) to see What kind of a time difference it would make? Maybe also one where you just use the 1:1 counter balance? Would be amazing! Groetjes!

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, great question. I am filming a few versions of this rescue. Next one will be similar to your example, one with a bit more and one with a setup perfect for this.
      By the way, just for your info. If I would use the counterbalance I showed in the first few steps, it would take about 15/20 steps and about 5 minutes depending how tired you want to get ;-). So it can be quite quick. With pulley set up it will be about the same just less tiring. I'll see if I can really do it at speed without explaining in one of the video's.

  • @MDee-n9z
    @MDee-n9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is crazy i think. Are there ways to simply it?

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes there are haha. This is just to show that it is possible to do with no real extra gear. However, prevention is the first. More gear second. Protraxxion, clutch, rd2 all make this a lot easier. Next up would be to get an extra rope for the hauling system. Way easier and breaking into the tight line is no issue anymore. That said, I still think it is a good skill to possess for any level 3

  • @zanecourie3545
    @zanecourie3545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Haha. Remember doing this a few reassessment ago. Assessor had me doing this mid-rope, apparently I needed the extra challenge. Still feel the burn

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha He must have had a bad day! What a horrible and unrealistic test. Fun to try though!!

    • @zanecourie3545
      @zanecourie3545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel The main issue I had was unable to really "move" much, due to literally being confined. Ended up using every piece of equipment, even stripping cows tails to add as additional points

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yes of course, You are really stuck in the two ropes with nothing to push of against. Normally you would be at the anchor points and have some fixed space like a beam or the steel strops.
      I am going to try it when I get the chance. You know what, I think I might make a video of the first try just to show me stumbling around hahaha

  • @musafirbychoice
    @musafirbychoice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big👍❤ 😅. Nice and clear señor

  • @patg14
    @patg14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how you avoid saying petzl regarding a descender that would have to be locked

  • @gemmawatson6100
    @gemmawatson6100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work! Always a chunky rescue that one, the re roped progress adjust making life just that little bit easier

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely👍🏻👍🏻. I was thinking that when I was editing the video... I should have done with just two cowstails and my chest ascender to make it really minimal gear.

    • @gemmawatson6100
      @gemmawatson6100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel I did my level one just at the time when the order came to stop towing shunts, so never had to break in using minimal gear from that era, but every little progression has made life easier and safer. At this point I reckon the main purpose of doing these is to serve as a potent reminder to rig for rescue 🤣

  • @CriticizePerfection
    @CriticizePerfection 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great channel

  • @thebull54kp
    @thebull54kp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use the same harness setup he uses a top Croll s and a Falcon harness.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is a great combo👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @thebull54kp
      @thebull54kp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel I agree

  • @AbseilerPainting
    @AbseilerPainting 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate your self challenges on the fly. Retrospect is easy, expecially from the armchair. I'm aware there's heaps of variations/ways to do rescues. Just wondering how that rescue may have worked with the Spark, if you instead had a croll/chest ascender on the rope coming out the tail end of the Spark, so still 1:1, although counter weight , instead of counter balnance. My unknown would be the friction on the cam, verses your displayed counterbalance. Not sure which would be easier. I assume that would still be kosher using croll for counter weight out of the Spark, as it's rated for 2 @250kg. Nicely done on the videos btw, thanks.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks :-)
      If I would have done it that way it would have been a lot heavier. Even the 3:1 setup I was using was probably more like a 1,5:1 with all the friction in play. With a descender like the Spark or Rig you need approximately 3 times the force to move a weight. I made a complete video on that.
      th-cam.com/video/uq7AhJYXOQ4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F9t5lcosqJUvOELh
      If I am using a Clutch or Pro Traxion for this than I would do what you propose for sure. That said it is possible for sure. Just heavier throught a cammed descender
      In this setup with no extra gear for me a counterbalance 1:1 over a carabiner feels the lightest.

  • @niletucker17
    @niletucker17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Alex, love the channel! I recently ordered a 2m petzl jag to make my rescues a bit easier than this but I’m wondering if the 1m could be more ideal than have a 2m. Do you have any advice on this, please?

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Nile, I think the 2 m Jag is a lot more versatile. Especially with a little rope stretch, the short one can actually too short. Now you have some room to move. Twice as much room actually ;-)

    • @niletucker17
      @niletucker17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel Thank you so much, that was my thought process! Keep up the awesome work!

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niletucker17 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @anothertrojanrabbit
    @anothertrojanrabbit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about doing Leigh Greenwood 's 'Singapore special '. It's similar, just with knot bypass as well. 😅

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dont know who Leigh is and I like him already hahaha. Must be a sadistic SOB ;-).
      I will do this for sure and I will film it first try to see how far I get !
      Thanks for the inspiration !!!

    • @markweedon5678
      @markweedon5678 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be great to see a video on the Singapore special.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markweedon5678 I can’t wait to try it haha. Video is coming in a few weeks👍🏼

  • @felixd1127
    @felixd1127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, is it possible to make a video for rescue of a guy doing route setting in a climbing gym. Using only his 2 ropes ?
    Highly appreciated 👍

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I could! That can be a fun one!! Great suggestion.
      I don't know how route setters work these days. When I used to do it, it was just one rope and a Grigri. The rope would be tied off at the bottom on 2 bolts usually with an F8 and ABK to load share.
      If you can share some more background information I can make a better video.
      Ropes tied off at the bottom or not, static or dynamic rope. Type of harness, what back up device, what descender and who would be performing a rescue with what type of gear.

    • @felixd1127
      @felixd1127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel
      Hello,
      I'm glad you'd like to take up the topic.
      here we go:
      Today, we’re a bit more professional ;-)
      We work with two static ropes.
      Both attached at the top of the route.
      One with a rig attached to ventral attachment (lower one).
      The other rope goes with an absorber and ASAP to the sternal point (upper).
      Harness, (eg) AVAO BOD
      Other Gear:
      Ascension, Connect Adjust, Absorbica-Y with easy hook open,…
      For rescue: Petzl Jag
      Scenarios:
      1 Rescue during Ascension.
      We go up the wall to fix the ropes for setting at the top with Absorbica-Y, clipping in the carabiners of the lanyard into quicklinks of the quickdraws of the route.
      Both static ropes (and one for the pulley system for the material boxes) are on gear loops of the harness.
      A guy, who wants to rescue his buddy cannot use the ropes
      2 Rescue during setting
      The 2 static ropes are useable.
      The guy who is performing the rescue has alle gear as mentioned above, as well as a Petzl Jag system (and a smartphone watching your videos😀😀)
      Thanks a lot

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@felixd1127 why can’t you use your buddies ropes? That would mean the rescuer needs to climb up safely and install his own new set right?

    • @felixd1127
      @felixd1127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel
      Well, first scenario is, prior route setting , when the guy climbs first up to the top of the route. All ropes are fixed the gear loops of the harness . Therefore they can’t be used in a rescue.
      I try to find a link to a instruction video . Don’t know if the link is deleted here , automatically. It’s from Vimeo platform

  • @pabsanti75
    @pabsanti75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hey i´m great follower of this channel, i´ve a question why don´t you use gloves? is there any specific reason?

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi, great to hear ;-)
      I'll answer you with a question. Why would I need gloves???

    • @richardflores8283
      @richardflores8283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As for myself, I like to feel the grain of the rope and I am able to grasp it better when we have to undo a knot.@@TheRopeAccessChannel

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When working I usually wear gloves. When climbing and training usually not.

    • @pabsanti75
      @pabsanti75 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel we´re used to see the common instructor saying to wear gloves even if there´s only training in order to feel how is it, but you have a point... thanks i´m anxious to see the next video, i hope to see you in mexico one day

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It should be risk assessed. When I am mounting an antenne with m6 bolts, gloves decrease dexterity to much. When I am grinding I wear gloves, when needlegunning I wear thick gloves with extra shock- or vibration protection. It just depends if it is dangerous work.. I have a friend who calls gloves “bitch mittens” and I somewhat agree with him.. We need some calluses and a small cut doesn’t do much. I don’t call that dangerous. Personally, if we are climbing around, I see no reason to wear gloves. You do you! Unless of course we are climbing around a rusted structure with rusted sharp edges everywhere. So risk assessed each time

  • @adrianochoa1465
    @adrianochoa1465 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What kind of cámara do you have ??

  • @michellemaire-d1y
    @michellemaire-d1y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your video Alex
    I’’ve just a question : what kind of shoes do you use ? safety shoes? I try to find safety shoe that are not to big to be efficient with a foot loop. Can you give me a piece of advice?

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi thank you for your question.
      In this video I am not wearing safety shoes. Normally I do wear them though. I have been wearing the Lowa Seeker S3 boot for at least 10 years. I like them so much I order a new pair every 2 or 3 years without hesitation. I run two pair at the same time. One for really dirty work, one for normal work. The new pair becomes the clean work one and the older pair becomes the dirty work one. For me they fit so good that once I went for an unplanned hiking trip and I only had my work boots in the van. I walked on them for 5 hours and 20k. No problem at all. That said... Shoes are very personal. These fit my feet very good

    • @michellemaire-d1y
      @michellemaire-d1y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Alex ! Thank you for your kind and very compréhensible reply. Thank you for your videos 🤩

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michellemaire-d1y you are welcome 🤗

  • @mikelCold
    @mikelCold 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How long can you be passed out from whatever was in the silo?

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on what was in it and how you are suspended...

  • @alotl1kevegas860
    @alotl1kevegas860 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is a cow tail just basically a lanyard?

    • @marklucas2548
      @marklucas2548 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cows tails are just a dynamic rope tied in a fashion that gives you 3 (2 long 1 short) lanyards.
      You can also buy pre-terminated lanyards such as perzl Jane lanyards, or adjustable lanyards such as petzl grillons.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, a cowstail is the name we use for our personal and/or device lanyards. They can be bought with fixed lenghts or knotted from EN892 dynamic rope. It could be as simple as a single rope with 2 f8 knots and arms length, or like what I have on other harnesses, is tying with a bulls nose to create 2 long ones and one short one. @accesstechniques used to have a video on that one. You tie as many as you want ore what is useful for a certain job.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍🏻👍🏻

  • @patg14
    @patg14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to put my edelrid fuse backup on a loaded rope recently and the rope deformed, making it impossible. Wish I had an asap after that.... Or had seen this video

  • @ChrisTietjen_00
    @ChrisTietjen_00 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was very good to see all of the changes and steps involved with an idea of how it all works together. Hard to really grasp it in one go around with so much clutter but still instructive. Hopefully the dummy just passed out from exhaustion and is still alive.😂

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am sorry to inform you the dummy is still a lifeless PoS that gets into trouble all the time..... hahaa

  • @jubi3050
    @jubi3050 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm feeling you dude,
    Sometimes its have to be done with whats left on the belt.😅
    So i do some sessions, time to time, like we've trained at the Fire Fighter (hardcore)... just with an eight, prusiks, pulleys and some slings... was a hard day😂

  • @kingkong14166
    @kingkong14166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is breaking into tight line still in the syllabus?

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not in the IRATA syllabus. I think in SPRAT it still is

  • @MrSqwidg
    @MrSqwidg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Near miss. no lanyard on the mic 😂

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

    • @richardflores8283
      @richardflores8283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRopeAccessChannel you know a neat miss is a potential accident. =}

  • @64251973rrg
    @64251973rrg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The perspective of the video is a simulation of rescue operation but the process of preparing the equipment is too long and lots of in necessary gears associated with the process and it’s confusing

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      In necessary gear?? I said in the video the why of it. This is the most minimum amount of gear possible for this rescue. Only what we have on the harness. Less gear is not possible to perform this. It is far from ideal and not the way to do in real life We would have a dedicated rescue set standby. That said, no matter what method, this rescue is always cluttered and confusing. you are suspended on the same point of the CS and are hauling there too. There is very little space available. That said, if you find this confusing then it may be over you head....
      Also over the length... I am filming and explaining. Of course it is long. For everyone who complains about the speed, I invite you to show me a video where you do the same thing and quicker with similar gear.... Good luck

  • @maggiopd
    @maggiopd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't found a good video that shows a potential hard rescue.
    Casualty falls of the edge, while it's on a safety lines with just cows tails on it.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the rescue goes down, or does it go up? Otherwise it is just a simple lower compared to raise over the edge. The solution would be similar to the aid climb rescue video here on the channel

  • @mattie9481
    @mattie9481 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s not that hard

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have heard many people say something else about it. And on the old assessment form it was the hardest I think. The hardest doesn’t mean it is difficult. Just that the other ones are easier. The least easy doesn’t sound so right. 🤪

  • @VALERYAN581
    @VALERYAN581 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🥱⏱,make window rescue