【Karate vs Jiu-Jitsu】What will happen? Let's verify!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Tatsuya Naka (Karate) ・Yuki Nakai (Jiu-Jitsu)
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that is so cool! first i thought there is anyway no subtitel.. so i was still watching in japanese like everytime 'xD. Great thing is that materialarts is an own language which i know! :) .. Thank you for all your work, i enjoy it so much. You feel like a part of my family, far away..
Is it possible to come to you for training
Estoy muy agradecido con ustedes.
Gracias!!
A Karate vs oldschool Judo take could be very interesting too, with a lot of standing work.
Thanks for your enormous work!
One can easily notice they're not only masters, but utterly noble and respectful warriors.
I can notice the heartfulness here.
One of them is former MMA fighter
@@malakatan3235 Nonsense. neither of them is treating this as a 'survival situation', so what you see is pure ART, not reality.
The respect between them is more powerful than their techniques.
良いこと言うねぇ〜
The Founder of Yoseikan did all Japanese styles and some Chinese Kung fu aswell as Western boxing.
FACTS 💯
🙊🙊
it's more politeness than respect
The problem for a Karateka sparring a Jiu-Jitsu guy is that the Karateka has to pull his strikes while the grappler can go full strength. In this kind of sparring, to make it more even, the grappler must respect the strikes potential to do damage and back off when strikes are thrown. This Jiu-Jitsu Sensei is pretty good at respecting the strikes which makes the sparing beneficial for both of them.
And every time a Jiu-Jitsu guy gets on his butt spreading his legs wide open is an invitation to give him a punch. This will never happen in a sparring of course. But will happen in a street fight. Karate guys however also have issues. Just like in any martial art which is practicing extensive leg strikes (Karate, Thekwondo), Karate guys often end up on the flow after trying to do a spinning hock kick. It is okay if the strike was successful and the opponent was knocked down. But it makes you a simple pray if you missed or if the fight is not one on one. Karate guys also keep their hands low leaving their head unprotected. This is not an issue in a spar with JJ guys, but is a serious flaw in a spar with another striker like a boxer or a Muai Thai practitioner.
@@Alex-kr1eg Karate guys can hold that hands low because of the extended distance between opponents. With a closer distance, the hands should go up. Mr. Machado is a Karate guy, but for a long time fighting in the UFC, he was hit fewer times than anyone else.
@@donelmore2540 This is actually a great point. A large part about styles that use a lot of kicks is that the ideal distance would be further and make a lower guard necessary. It's funny actually, in older bare knuckle boxing, they so used lower guards since body shots were typical compared to head hits.
@@skyereave9454 Thanks! Back in the day, I would do Jiyu Kumite with my middle level, Chudan, well protected and over the course of sparring I would slowly open up a Chudan target. When my opponent went for the opening, I would counter before they got their attack off. People thought I was really fast, but really they just took the bait I dangled in front of them. LOL
Says every karate guy ever. But the thing is, punchers rarely land hard strikes on a grappler. They always try to hit them as they close, but as any grappler will tell you, those strikes rarely hurt very much, because for a punch to hurt it has to extend, and it will never extend to the right distance because the grappler is closing too fast for that to work. Every puncher thinks he is going to just knock out a grappler when the grappler closes, but every time the puncher ends up on his back, getting choked out or submitted. If MMA has proven anything, it's that you can't get by on just one set of techniques: every grappler should learn to strike, and every striker needs to at least learn the basics of grappling and submissions. Otherwise you're just begging to get choked out or submitted.
The amount of respect between them is proportional to their martial arts skills.
Karate, Judo, Jiu Jitsu, Aikido are all Japanese martial arts and they are like brothers it's nice see these Masters training together.
Depends.... Karate have it's roots deep in the chinese Martial Arts, specially about striking, while Ju-jitsu and it's "descendants" (like Judo and Aikido) are mainly throwing or submission moves.
Yes, they're all japanese but their influences are different.
I practice both styles and love them equally. Both styles are great to learn together. Striking + Grappling = a better martial arts.
I hear you but I'd like to add my humble opinion that Karate (as it's popularised in the West) such as Shotokan is simply a branch of Jiu Jitsu as is Aikido as is Judo. I would consider them an advanced 'school' of Jiu Jitsu but I appreciate all martial arts for what they may bring and what you may learn.
Pax
@@conmcgrath7174 Karate comes from Okinawa, having its' roots in White Crane Chinese martial art. It was developed as a Okinawan self-defense, for they had forbidden to carry weapons.
Jujutsu, on the other hand, developed on mainland Japan as a softer martial art of Samurai, to disarm, hit vital points, dislocate... From Jujutsu; Judo, Jiu Jitsu and Aikido had birth - the latter also influenced by Daito-ryu.
@@theoldleafybeard Cheers 'Beard' (if I may call you that?). You are probably better informed than I. I made a broad statement and should have recognised the distinction between Okinawan Karate and the more mainstream styles so popularised in the west; Shotokan being a good example (there is a case made by some, that Shotokan is little more than an evolved military drill? I apologise now to practitioners of Shotokan everywhere, it's not my intention to cause offence).
I do know of the historical ties between Okinawan karate and mainland China, that it is specific to the White Crane style exclusively, well, I'm just not qualified to give any reasonable opinion though I do believe it is likely.
If I had my 'do-overs' I would love to explore both? It would be more than interesting to see where the separate styles merge and where they differ (and why?).
Alas my misspent youth is, well, spent!
Thanks for the reply and the gentle correction.
Martial arts in general is a fascinating subject and so very much more if you engage with a pure heart.
To all practitioners, my respect. I have a question relating to styles and an all too frequent 'blinkered approach' (like this is the only style and everybody else is wrong), it's this; is it the vehicle, is it the journey or is it the destination that is most important?
Meantime, enjoy the trip!
Respect and Pax vobiscum.
@@conmcgrath7174 Shotokan is a traditional Okinawan style 🙏⛩️.
Many Karate schools today barely teach traditional Shotokan , it's all some watered down derivative mix of styles with a basic "Shotokan" base or other karate style.
When I trained Shotokan in the 80s it took years and years to achieve belts.
These days , you can be a black belt at 8-10 years old after a few years , which in my opinion is ridiculous.
As mentioned previously , Jiu Jutsu has its roots based from the Samurai period as a method of close quarters and disarming methods .
Both are beautiful and incredibly strong arts when used in combination.
Cheers mate 😉🤘
@@GUARDIANA01 I hear you, the days when a black belt actually meant something have been spoiled by 'mc-dojo's' and belts for sale.
Respect and Pax
I am pretty impressed by how precise and accurate he is with his strikes. He can go pretty hard and fast and stop right before contact. Great control. 👍
everyone can punch hard controll takes skill
that's actually a super important karate aspect, we spar at full speed with no protective gear, and most of the time everyone goes home without any serious injuries because every single move is controlled.
he's a master not a mere practitioner :)
Yuki Nakai was one of the best fighters I've ever seen for his size back in his day. A true legend!
Indeed. The guy fought heavywheights, truly brave
Congrats from Argentina. Respect, no ego of grand master or superiority involved, just two guys respectfully reviewing their form of fighting. Nice video. We need more of this type of attitude.
"This is known as the Inoki vs. Ali form."
Lol, good sense of humor on that guy.
Agree. Great reference to a classic fight! Of course, it was only the restrictive rules that made Inoki fight that way.
Always one of my favorite TH-cam channels.
I love these videos. I am also a shotokan practitioner (JKA). In my dojo we also spar with other martial arts like judo, ju jitsu & taekwondo (their dojos are in the same building). It’s very important for karatekas to know what techniques to use against each of the art.
こういう立ち会いは組技側はタップされるまで本気出せるけど、立ち技側はケガさせる気で打ち込むわけにいかないというのが難しいですよね
お二方が本気で仲悪かったらより興味深い対決になりそうです
As duas artes marciais são incríveis, tanto o karatê como o jiu-jitsu são sem igual, a eficiência existe nas técnicas de ambas as lutas
Concordo
Vídeo incrível. Dois verdadeiros Mestres que deixaram os seus egos lá fora, que se respeitam e se admiram mutuamente. Uma verdadeira lufada de ar fresco! Muito agradecido!
Sakuraba solved the Inoki situation back in Pride when fought Royler Gracie. Just kick his legs to the point he can't maintain his open guard anymore
Yuki Nakai and Sensei Naka!! Two legends!! BJJ and Karate are unstoppable together!! Osu!!
Imagine if Karate and BJJ practioners interacted like this more often in other parts of the world.
It's nice knowing it's at least possible though!
Lyoto Machida 😁
Fearless Martial Arts in west grove pa teaches this.
Yuki Nakai! Never going to be a balanced fight if Yuki Nakai is on the other side. He's a true martial arts fighting master.
Most in this comment section have no earthly idea who he is. They're talking about "just jab the BJJ guy in the eye". LMAO. Oh, how truly ignorant they are...
I really enjoy comparing how this karate sensei reacts to the jiu jitsu sensei with how other styles of karate might respond to the same situations. It's very interesting that you can have so many similarities in the art between the karate styles, but the different mindsets/approaches/strategies to the fight make the styles distinct.
That was a lot of fun to watch. Great experts at their styles having fun with each other!
I think that doing some sparring with taekkyeon rules as a drill would help fighters kick without being taken down.
They win with a kick to the head or a takedown, and they aren't allowed to retreat while facing their opponents. This makes them able to fight up close, and they have to kick and rechamber quickly or the opponent will catch their leg and take them down.
Sem dúvida ,essa apresentação de técnicas de estilos de lutas diferentes nos traz uma visão de respeito de cada modalidade. Oss
Falou tudo,osu...
I like as they are talking and explaining..
they're like
oooooooo oooooo
😂😉👍
The respect and sincerity is very humbling and a feel-good vibe. They are genuinely interested in learning and exploring and trading and sharing ideas. Not just trying to dunk on each other.
that moment at 2:46 I was grinning because that's the setup for 1 of the few takedowns from the ground I know, not many ground techniques in Chinese martial arts, but that's 1 of them.
There is fully array of ground techniques in CMA. Just not as well known as the stricking arts.
@@ehisey in which style please?
Some of the monkey (mine happens to be one) and ape styles have full complements of ground grappling. There is a python system. Some branches of chin na are ground based. Shaio jaio is of course a full on throwing system like judo. Fukian has a complement of throws and take downs from the ground though mostly a ground and pound, it gave rise to the "rising and falling" style which is was similar to jujitsu. It is rarer these days, some of the reasons are cultural, some nationalistic (to avoid looking like Japanese methods), there was the great lose of styles around the cultural revolution and Japanese occupation. Much like Karate and TKD which had a complement of ground skills up to the mid 1900's when it's focus shifted mostly to stand up, these sunsets have mostly been ignored or forgotten. BJJ it self is something of an anomaly with it's extreme focus ground submissions even among grappling arts. Most Chinese grappling is going to be closer to Judo, catch or sambo.
I'm a big fan of Yuki Nakai. Much respect sir!
I feel like one reason that BJJ guys have the advantage because every guy can throw a haymaker but most people don't know grappling beyond a rugby tackle. Give a good BJJ guy a month of striking and he's pretty dangerous... Or give a karate black belt a couple months of grappling and he's not bad either. As a karate black belt, I've been training in BJJ for the last 2 months. Today I just beat a 4 stripe white belt in points (if you know the main positions that's enough). But then I had to tap cuz my ear started bleeding (got a small tear from the scrambles).
The laying on the ground is good for combat sports where attacks to the groin aren't allowed, but I wouldn't try it on a self defense situation because the attacker could step on the balls from that position.
What an excellent video and the answer is one on one in a fight situation the BJJ athlete will most likely grab on and submit even the best karate fighter, but in the street where there could be multiple people involved the last place you want to finish up is on the ground, getting a sucker punch or kick to the head. Karate is the better defence in a scramble, there are some beautiful fast techniques in this video and as always the best strategy, throw 100% and run away, absolutely no shame in surviving and not getting hurt.
Young people today don't specialise in a single combat sport, if you learn BJJ as a child go join a boxing or kick boxing club and feel what it is like to get punched and kicked and vice versa.
Easily the best video on TH-cam
グラップラー対ストライカーは誰もが想像した事ある夢の戦い
The cameraman seemed to *really* enjoy that one.
quanta riqueza em um só vídeo, bom demais! oss.
ほんとそれな！
@@ichiromurata9054 oss!
A questão é a rapidez de cada lutador, esse mestre de karatê é muito bom, muito rápido, os golpes dele são fortes
Such a good video! What a constructive and insightful comparison. One of my favorite parts about martial arts is that there is always more to learn.
Всегда приятно видеть работу двух Мастеров!
それな！
this was one of the best videos ive ever seen, thanks for this what a fun experiment by two pros
muito bom... obrigado 👏👏👏
Excelente video. La verdad que la velocidad las técnicas el respeto y ambas disciplinas me parecieron excelentes. Felicitaciones tienes demasiado profesionalismo. 👏👏👏💪💪💪. Literalmente están muy entrenados. Mis respetos desde Argentina.
2:56
Nuts are wide open for a trampling!
Nakai grande lenda do jiu jitsu e o karateca é muito inteligente
Exactly why I enjoy the. Combined practice of taekwondo and judo combined with Hapkido. But without full contact, Karate is at a disadvantage, and if any grappler goes to the ground, well in real world, just walk away….
中井さんほんと海外でもレジェンドなんだなあ。
Great video. This a really to share experience and knowledges, between two different martial arts. I really like the respect between the two increidibles masters. Two legends. Osu!!
This is why i love asians, no ego, only respect.
Another over looked reason BJJ is more dangerous than other martial arts is because they aren't just ground game they also have take downs too which is the stand up. So they have all the ground and some stand up while karate guys just have stand up.
If Karate man was using 100% power when striking I think he would have KOed
That’s Yuki Nakai, after his eye got gouged out he continued to fight.
Rickson Gracie respected him so much that during their match he refused to punch him. He called him a true warrior.
What a compilation, mind-blowing theories and thought! Grand manner of improving to occasions 🙏🕊️☯️
Native Spanish speaker writing. Are the subtitles generated automatically? I ask because the subtitles don't make sense. But, they do help to understand what you guys are talking about. Great video!
Wow! I love this. Thank you guys!
Naka actually knows some basics of grappling. That was a nice sprawl he did
ESO HACE LO BELLO DE LAS ARTES MARCIALES SUS DIFERENTES TÉCNICAS Y CONOCIMIENTO EN LA PRÁCTICA.
FELICITACIONES 👍👍
This is great, I love this. All respect and a genuine desire to experience each other's style.
Naka is one another level.
The Karateka is obviously "giving face/respect" to his Jujutsu "opponent" (the Karateka is of the Shotokan School which is reknown for its VERY FAST VICIOUS ATTACKING TECHNIQUES (which we did not see)
Witam was dużo czasu pracy i wysiłku poświęciliście by nabrać takich umiejętności jakie macie gratuluje wam 🤝
And that's why both skills are needed in a real fight. Very nice guys. Great video.
The guy writing around on the floor gets stomped between the legs in the groin by the guy standing up, game over...
Thanks for the translation but would be nice
To see them try
A truly interesting exchange. Thanks.
If it was for real the karateka in full attack mode could have knocked out or disabled the ju jitsu guy very quickly IMO.
Both styles are self defence styles so they are waiting for each other. If you attack you are more open.
Karate é muito eficiente na luta.em pé, por isso que eu acho que o Karate deve treinar luta no chão.
São duas técnicas e estilo de luta diferentes,um luta agarrando e puxando pro chão,outro luta batendo e nocauteando, parabéns aos dois pela habilidade de ambos e técnica,e pela cordialidade 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻ossu
No way, in your dreams, only Whit Mae Geri or kizami tzuki, tyako tzuki
Traditional Okinawan karate (as opposed to Japanese) includes the same grappling and ground fighting techniques as jujutsu/jujitsu. In the early 1920s, Funakoshi helped develop and promote karate that emphasized strikes and kicks and eliminated grappling (many say to resemble boxing as Japan sought “Westernization.” So what this video actually shows are the two sub-disciplines of traditional karate.
Karate shorin ryu es?
@@lucaspisculichi I train in Shito-ryu, which incorporates techniques from Shuri-te, Naha-te, and Tamari-te (Wado-ryu and Goju-ryu). Shorin-ryu is the 1933 name for the school based on Shuri-te. Shito-ryu shares many kata and kihon with Shorin-ryu. Shito-ryu also includes kobudo (weapons). I don’t know if Shorin-ryu does.
dude how about that stance swapping and guard pulling what an exhilarating exchange!
Very thanks
Дякую Вам шановнi майстри!)))
Karate implements weapons, and is more about striking effectively than grappling. It has a clear advantage if you have multiple attackers. Jiu jitsu has an upper hand for one on one if a fight goes to the ground, but that makes some assumptions like not being knocked unconscious or completely disoriented trying to close distance on someone that knows how to hit effectively.
Best thing you can do is incorporate the methods of both into a condensed form to adapt to any situation.
Muita ciência envolvida dois estilos fantásticos
Naka Sensei's real power is in devastating attacks which he has to hold back.
I think we all already know "what will happen", so I'll pass on watching thank you 👌
Karate fighters are better in street and free fights. As a combat sambo ex-competitor it was always harder for me to fight against karate, kyokushin and muay thai fighters. Even in close combat you can use elbows and knees against jiu-jitsu . In my opinion bjj is overestimated... My deep respect for Naka Sensei and Nakai Sensei .
As a Sambo guy it would likely be easier for you to deal with Jiu jitsu,
But a fight is chaotic in nature and the styles, expertise and body types will have a dramatic affect on the outcome.
I think of the different styles more like tools you'd use for a construction project. It's not that one tool is just better than the others, it's like they are all designed to be used for certain situations and each have their own strengths and weaknesses.
成り立ちが違うからね
@@crazykubla There is a big difference between sambo and combat sambo . In combat sambo grapling is may be 40% or even less. Fast strikes, elbows , knees, even shoulders and head-ram can be used for preparation for close range advance and deploying throw technique ...
@@ichiromurata9054 ? English please!
☯️🙏 my thoughts also .
When he lay on the ground 🤣🤣
I would look for a rock 💥 or go for a foot lock.
It's so weak it belongs in MMA/UFC.
Muito bom o vídeo.
Karatê e Jiu-jtsu são duas artes marciais eficazes.
Osu!
amazing, two killers sharing information to spread love and knowledge
関節相手には本気で打撃を与えないと中々解りにくいと思いますよね
中先生がシャドーで入れた1発がどれ程の重みがあるか？ってのが分からないと、、、、、、、
その1発を耐えるかも知れないし落ちるかも知れない
シャドーで入れた蹴りが落ちるかも知れないし耐えるかも知れない
永遠のテーマですよね
Se fosse uma luta real, KARATÊ teria chance, mas como ele n podia atacar seriamente, ele ficou bem na desvantagem, já que os ataques dele são explosivos, 1 Soco uma queda, o Jiu Jitsu pode imobilizar facilmente e parar a técnica pra n machucar o alvo, mas imagina uma sequência do Mestre de Karate...
Não teve luta amigo, eles tavam trocando técnicas. Nenhum dos dois estava tentando ganhar
凄い世界ですね🤩🤩🤩
That's the reason the modern Brazilian jiujitsu can't sparr or fight with other arts , it evolved to a grappling art only , the Gracie's jiujitsu is better for this , cause they have the fighting vale tudo in their curriculum, the Rickson , Rorion Relson Royce , Ralph Gracie they have a street jiujitsu way the others like Renzo are more sport jiujitsu and this can't fight or sparr against other striking arts , this is the difference between the old Gracie jiujitsu and the new Americanized jiujitsu each lost the striking part of the Gracie jiujitsu and the fighting aspect of the art against all other arts like they did in the beginning.. this new jiujitsu couldn't do what Royce Gracie did in the early UFC, not a chance ...
0:57 Yuki Nakai mostrando a "levantada técnica". Existem evidências dessa técnica na Capoeira antes de aparecer no Jiu-jitsu Brasileiro.
Yuki Nakai mostrando la "levantada técnica". Hay evidencia de esta técnica en Capoeira antes de que apareciera en Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.
Yuki Nakai showing the "technical stand up". There is evidence of this technique in Capoeira before it appeared in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.
Jujitsu students know basic punches and kicks as well, so Karate wins lest the Jujitsu student can strike his opponent and force him into the ground game.
Respect for both masters🙏
Well depends on what game you’d be playing. It’s like trying to box a boxer and you being a grappler or kicker. He’s gonna knock you out.
You make him play your game, by your rules.
They are powerful when combined though!!!
I train both. Just in case...
Both excellent practitioners in their art of self defense 🔥👍
This is why training in multiple different arts is useful. Yes you may be great at stand up fighting, but what to do if your opponent pins you to the ground? You don’t have a ground game.
Exelente demostración .
Excellent video!!oooosss!!
The Kaka dogi well twice is well good enough gracious serving to do it for us. Of course, if you actively teach, you need permission from Superiors to do so.
im happy seen this interchange bless for both of them
الوضعية التي يقف بها لاعب الكراتي جيدة جدا فهي تعطي توازن مثالي يصبح صعب على الخصم إسقاطه بسبب وضعية الوقوف بلنسبة للكراتي
Was a fun video to watch. That said, the question of Karate vs Jiu Jitsu, is one that's been effectively solved for decades now.
It's not a matter of who wins in a 1 vs 1 (most times it'll be jiu jitsu), but a matter of what each style has to offer.
Jiu jitsu does not by any means provide everything karate does combat wise
I like your channel, think you’re a good dude, and think karate (when trained right) can be an effective striking art. But we’ve all seen the Gracie challenge videos and UFC 1-4. We know how this goes.
what happened to the swift kick to the face?
that is a beautiful looking dojo