I don’t think either of them are better than the other, it’s just Symantec’s at this point. Obviously kenpo is not traditional Karate, but it does utilize traditional techniques and combines it with another style of martial arts. There is definitely more circular movements and techniques are more complicated movements in Kenpo. I don’t think either is better than the other personally.
I love the final word with Seth. When he said: "Okinawa...", Jesse's mouth immediately opened on reaction to complete the phrase. The only reason he didn't say it straight away was because he is polite and didn't want to interrupt, until Seth gestured him to complete the phrase. Hilarious.
that, "make our own kata" challenge, was one of the most entertaining challenges ever conceptualized. now i want to try that the next time i'm in the gym. thank you sensei jesse for that amazing show of skill and the concept !
They literally played SKATE with martial arts. This is the coolest thing I've made a mental connection between in a long while. This video was awesome!
I love how humble Sensei Seth was during the kata round and how kindly you reassured him when he was frustrated. To me, that’s the beauty of martial art right there. Great moment!
Oohhh Rokas and Seth need to do a colab “I got destroyed by this former Aikido master” and “I used this hidden Aikido technique to crush this American Karate teacher” let’s gooooo
It's so fun getting to spar people that train in a different style than you do. I used to compete in a bunch of "open style" tournaments and we would fight Kung Fu, Shotokan, Isshin Ryu, Kenpo, and Taekwondo practitioners. It was always fun to see what kind of tricks they had up their sleeves or what their specialties were. Taekwondo fighters were always the hardest puzzles to crack. They are so damn fast and their kicks come from everywhere
I haven't practiced shotokan karate for about 13 years. I'm older, less flexible, unfit and out of shape. Your videos have inspired me to seek out a local shotokan club. I want to get back to that feeling where I felt strong and had confidence. Thank you Jesse
I did Shotokan as well. I loved it, but stopped after my instructor left and a family of very arrogant and out of shape people took over. I really like some of the concepts (as my sensei presented them).
@@Mattseak It doesnt matter what style of karate. As long as you train the right way, you can make any martial art work (exept chi-blocking dont try that sh*t)
Two of my favorite Karate guys, along with that Hard 2 Hurt guy. Sensei Seth, I have much love and respect for your skill. However, Jesse's attention to technical nuance is legendary. This guy can not only give you the technical specs of each move but also the history. These are good videos. Please keep them coming.
One thing I would note about American martial Arts is that you have to remember back in the 60s and 70s, a lot of the people bringing the arts into the US were returning service members. So a lot of the training also had influences from their experiences and skills such as more modern defense scenarios and modern conditioning methods.
Ya, just like culture, martial arts has always been changing from taking on new influences, notably the Chinese and Japanese learning things from each other and incorporating what they liked from the other into their own forms. Very cool 😎
I think I know the biggest difference between trad and US karate mindset. Seth mentioned narrow focus, and yes but it comes down to this. American karate classes are almost never longer than an hour, and often only once a week for adults (most dojos here cater to kids). Traditional karate commits much more time to the learning environment.
I am a taekwondo practitioner, but I find so much of your content helpful and relevant to my life. Thank you to both of you for every bit of your knowledge that you continue to share with all of us!
Tae Kwon do specialises in kicks n karate has them too, but slightly different in execution. But a black belt Tae Kwon do admitted to me that the positioning of legs in TKD could result in leg problems later in life Karate has more variety in hand attacks
@RangerMan-yv7rl This is all true. TKD kicks can definitely be done with correct technique AND still safely for joints long term, BUT they are not taught like this in most cases, just the correct technique.
So cool! Somehow this came up for me and I realize why after watching. The mutual respect, the willingness to learn and make mistakes, the aggressive yet controlled manner in which you sparred… Just two capable people learning and growing. It’s a really great thing to watch.
I remember being a hardcore fan of Karate back when I was in high school, but then I kind of lost confidence in it after discovering other martial arts or combat sports like Muay Thai and MMA. I used to do Taekwondo in high school and uni, but felt it was lacking something that oomph that Karate had. Watching your videos, however, restored my confidence in Karate, and I really love the content you make! Thanks for being such a cool and awesome Karate practitioner!
Jesse‘s style reminded me of Machida waiting for the counter not wasting movements as much while Seth looked like Wonderboy in his bouncy movements and angled lead hand strikes.
By the way, I would also love to mention that my greatest highlight from this video is the front kick, roundhouse kick, spinning back kick, side kick, reverse punch, and backfist demonstration from 3:22 to 3:59 because of just how uniquely beautiful each motion on the punching bag was. Seth is sheer power, super strength, and pumped-up and manly virility incarnate when he does those moves. You, dear Jesse, are a phenomenal combination of sterling technique, clear focus, lethal strength, and boundless stamina. The energy you guys give in this highlight is the icing on this beautifully baked and superbly decorated cake.
I teach Karate and own a Dojo with my father in America. I use to constantly try to keep our Dojo away from it being “Americanized” but then realized that is not necessarily a bad thing. As long as you are teaching good, effective karate well and you are being respectful to your students (and their wallets), I guess it does not matter too much if some things are different such as wearing a black Dōgi. What also matters is how your Dojo’s practices and attitudes effect the skill and behaviors of your students. Regardless, love your videos and insight Jesse!
Wish I could find a class that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg here in America been training solo because of the costs but my friends over seas pay only 9$ a month and 30$ a month for their classes and that’s in usd wish I could find something like that here at home
@@CHADCONTEXT it refers to how he positions his leg before and after the kick, like 'chambering' a round in a firearm - it's in position to 'do its thing'
I appreciate the honesty that the trainer had in his answers. He was very direct about how that the fundamental difference in the two styles is rooted in the countries they came from.
So glad to see karateka coming together and having fun while also explaining regional differences of this martial art we love. Much respect to you all.
I’m a BJJ guy….but have done a few years of a couple different martial arts over the years…and I really enjoy your videos. Very informative and fun at the same time. 👍
As a fellow BJJ guy, we can both agree pulling gaurd is the only effective way to survive starting rolling standing up against the judo guy. Lest we get thrown 6 feet.
What an awesome video, guys! What a great way to keep learning. There were zero egos, and both were crazy open for learning. Huge fan of both these channels- I'm a hapkido and muai thai enthusiast. These guys are great teachers and entertainers. Anyone should feel proud to be taught by either of these men! AND Jesse's brother!
I am a red belt in tae kwon do and I’m really enjoying your video. Really figuring out some cool valuable information ! And some really good tips for when I’m teaching
I love watching your videos, been out of Martial arts for along time, got married had kids etc. don't have the free time for it anymore but when i do get the chance to look stuff up your videos always entertain and are very educational!
I'm from Iran and i attended Karate classes for years when i was younger, I remember we were not allowed to say Persian numbers, we had to say them in Japanese and also name of every move and stance we had to say in Japanese, he had to bow to show respect to Shihon when he showed up, and also we had hard discipline punishments like 100 push ups in row on knuckle on asphalt and other things, and the moves we did were very similar how Jesse performed, i haven't attended classes for more than 10 years now but i still can do them after warmup, i'm glad that i was thought the more traditional way
@@kurtsilvinohulsermann1337 not lazy way, but more suitable in realistic situation. They're still disciplined but in a different way. (Proved by many pro fighters coming from the background)
I come from Karate Shotokan, as my Granpa and my dad, both trained back in the years by Sensei Shirai. I love the attitude of both but being honest, Japanese Karate is way more elegant in the movements. The American one seems some kind of applying karate to street fights. However great video and thank you for making it fun and interesting.
@@pedrofernandes6668 What you think of as beautiful movement may not be considered beautiful. Sometimes people use the term Beautiful but what they mean is exaggerated movement with no purpose or something else. Most Karate practiced in the world is not Japanese it is a copy of it.
Jesse…always humble, kind, and a great teacher student. Always learning, sharing, and teaching and growing without shouting and screaming from a pedestal of superiority and mastery.
Both are very good martial artists, love watching and learning from both. Now, I have to say, Jesse is more of the traditional smooth karate that I was taught. I admire Seth’s power as well. Seth just had too much jumping around during the sparring and was winded a little more, where as Jesse was sliding more and more balanced when he attacked. Great video guys! Please do more together!!!
It’s a tie! Both of you learned from each other and that’s a win for both. Great video gentlemen. You two are great examples for our martial arts community. Much respect!
Great video you guys! The snap sound from a heavyweight gi behind each good strike, never gets old. My first Karate teacher, when I was in Yoshukai International, always told me the gi was design that way to let you know when your form is proper.
You're such a technician! I like how the more traditional one looks very clean and precise. For me personally, 'the west' is like a hammer, while 'the east' is like a scalpel.
Maybe it has to do with potential opponents. In the west. The chances of fighting someone much larger then yourself is a lot greater. So there needs to be that strong stopping power in techniques. In the east. Your opponents build would be more within range of your own. So quick efficient techniques are more valued. Just my thoughts.
I think it's difficult to pick out style differences with only two practicioners; sparring especially feels like it's as much based on the individual preferences and strengths as it is on lineage. I've done "traditional" karate sparring before, but people in the dojo had wrestling or boxing backgrounds or even experience with different karate styles prior. I think the label "traditional" makes it seem like the style has remained unchanged since its "creation", but all martial arts change and adapt. The changes just aren't the same as in American karate
I’m a practitioner of kenpo karate, its more of a mma style (mixed martial arts) mixing various chinese martial arts, it doesn’t take as long to learn as traditional karate because something I’ve noticed in traditional karate you drill one move over and over again in different classes, but in kenpo you can learn various moves and combos then go home and drill them in on your free time
That was awesome!. Thank you both for the great video!. It would be really cool to see you guys spar a few rounds to see the differences/strategies, the two of you would come up with. Thank you both for all the great content you guys have put out over the years!
As an Isshin-Ryu karate ka I really enjoyed this comparison. The friendliness was refreshing and the smiles were original. Well done. A lot of videos slander other martial arts but this was just good stuff. Cheers
Loving the content guys. I like the build-a-kata exercise and will talk to my sensei about adding that for training one night. After we cap at a sensible around of techniques, then try to create the bunkai and oiyo for it. Digging the final fantasy victory theme in the video too. I took something away from the sparring too. I saw Seth do two jabs and then a ushiro Geri which I will incorporate into some fun sparring as I need to practice my spin speed and it’s viability in a match/real life situation 👊 thanks again
I learned Uechi-ryu during university many years ago and we kicked through on roundhouse kicks but snapped back front kicks. When I took TKD with my son many years later, they snapped their roundhouse kicks back but kicked through on front kicks. Go figure.
The snap on your spinning back kick seems like it would do much more damage than Seth's which looked a bit more pushy. Both of you did great though! Much respect, love the channel
I’m a runner who does absolutely no martial arts but with great ambassadors like this my mind is opening. High five fellas you represented your schools.
Fun video. I'll be starting up Isshin Ryu soon (boo COVID restrictions). I practiced Tae Kwon Do for 7 years (years ago), so it'll be interesting seeing the difference. I struggled a lot learning Changquan Wushu because of the muscle memory I'd formed in TKD. Doing a front raising kick during warm-ups and having to keep my heel on the ground was so strange. Vertical fist in Isshin Ryu will likely be a challenge. Love seeing varying styles!
Love both these guys. Nice to see Seth doing some Kata and it looked pretty good. But Jesse's Kata is at a special level and he just absords things on the fly really quickly. The kumite looked pretty good from both sides but the lineages are very clear with the footwork etc. This was fun.
Awesome video guys. I took Kenpo when I was much much much younger and when it came to sparring...we threw a lot of leading punches and kicks. I ended up leaving Kenpo after only neing in it for a few months because school took priority but when I got into High School...I got into and stuck with Shidokan Karate until I achieved 1st Dan. I really miss the dojo so i practice kata out in the front yard from time to time
Great video Jesse. I came up in an American karate Dojo and yes we had different color Gi and did birthday parties on the weekend. (My Kyokushin friend laughed at me about this) However, I am proud to say that I came from one of the few gyms that trained kickboxing style/ PKA style. We sparred often and fought hard and not point fighting. Black belt took minimum 10 years. American karate has dropped significantly since the 80's and 90's but there are a few good dojos left. They are just harder to find. Osu.
I started in Kempo, and drifted to my landing at Okinawan karate. There are great elements to combine from each. The way Tadashi Yamashita demonstrates Shorin ryu is a good example of how that blend looks.
16 seconds ago!! Jesse I really like your videos and these collabs with Seth are amazing.Your tips for kicks and kumite are really helpful.Thank you -Yellow belt
I have a background of kung fu but my sifu (teacher) couldn't afford to run his business anymore and he recommended me to kenpo karate which I wasn't sure about doing because of how different it is. But after seeing you guy's spar and do kata, you showed me that kenpo karate is the right way for me to go in the long run. Thank you.
Keep in mind, the stuff that Seth does is not the same as the kempo karate that Ed Parker used to do, which is the one that had the mannequin training where you do, like, 50 strikes all at once, the one that Ed Parker did, actually came from a man named James mitose, it actually has a lot more influence from Chinese martial arts, and it is unrelated to sensei Seth's style of kempo karate, which is mainly influenced by goju ryu karate
Not sure why I started to watch this channel... Combination of great respect to karate history, knowledge, analysis and comparison, irony, sharing your experience and emotions, making your auditory to think? Well done.
Martial Arts has always been great at bringing people together. Learning from each other, caring for each other, it's beautiful and humbling. I'm glad I've dedicated such a large portion of my life to it. While I haven't practiced Karate I respect all forms and disciplines. We should all strive to learn together. Much love for all of you.
Who won… east or west?! 🥋
PS. Subscribe or Seth will kick you! 🦶💥
I think Karate won.
I am your biggelt fan !
Again, a win to your joint audiences. These collabs have been excellent! Thank you.
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Glad to hear!!
"America sells stuff." is a great summary.
Sounds like something you’d say, right?
Why is the reason ancient culture are not preserved on Us, fait accompli and lethal to local culture. 👍🍺
America sells things? That's a claim only China can make.
I don’t think either of them are better than the other, it’s just Symantec’s at this point. Obviously kenpo is not traditional Karate, but it does utilize traditional techniques and combines it with another style of martial arts. There is definitely more circular movements and techniques are more complicated movements in Kenpo. I don’t think either is better than the other personally.
Yooo iceymike
I love how realistic Seth is about the American culture.
How does this guy get no comments in 2 years with 597 likes
It's like watching Ryu and Ken go at in Street Fighter II... but with far fewer hadoken fireballs, and a lot more kata. Great video guys!
Haha and way slower 🤪 Thanks sifu!! 🙏
We need a collab with Sensei Seth, Karate Nerd and Ramsey Dewey!
@@jacobriojas4267 don't forget Captain Krav Maga 😂
@Ramsey Dewey 🤣🤣 This made me laugh 😂 so hard but also brought my childhood memories back at 90’s Arcade Parlours……;”Shoryuken”’
At least 50 percent fewer.
I love the final word with Seth.
When he said: "Okinawa...", Jesse's mouth immediately opened on reaction to complete the phrase. The only reason he didn't say it straight away was because he is polite and didn't want to interrupt, until Seth gestured him to complete the phrase.
Hilarious.
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that, "make our own kata" challenge, was one of the most entertaining challenges ever conceptualized. now i want to try that the next time i'm in the gym. thank you sensei jesse for that amazing show of skill and the concept !
I make up my own kata all the time. I hope to utilize the Kamehameha and Bankai in a sparring match sometime.
I know, right! That looked very challenging. You really had to think on your feet AND remember everything all at once AND come up with something new!
They literally played SKATE with martial arts. This is the coolest thing I've made a mental connection between in a long while. This video was awesome!
How did the "make your own kata" challenge go? Did you do it when you next went to the gym?
That's literally kid level karate...
It's a game of HORSE.
I love how humble Sensei Seth was during the kata round and how kindly you reassured him when he was frustrated. To me, that’s the beauty of martial art right there. Great moment!
I think it’s a sign that Jesse would be a fanatic sensei, and teacher. And dare say, father one day
If you had a gut like Seth you'd be humble too!
Awesome video! So cool you guys finally met. PS: I love the sound the gi makes during Jesse's kata 😎
What about mine?! 😂😂
Thanks Rokas!! What can I say… it’s The Seishin Gi 🥋👊💥
Karate & aikido all talking together....just gonna say...Jin Joong Kwan Hapkido all the way!!! Check it out
Oohhh Rokas and Seth need to do a colab “I got destroyed by this former Aikido master” and “I used this hidden Aikido technique to crush this American Karate teacher” let’s gooooo
@@KARATEbyJesse I've been looking for a heavier weight dogi and that's it, you've sold me on Seishin.... I need to hear the snap!
Jesse seems like a genuinely awesome person, the world's a better place with people like you man
You’re too kind! 🙏
it genuinely is. he's like young schwarzenegger, just a bundle of positive energy, and can-do attitude.
It's so fun getting to spar people that train in a different style than you do. I used to compete in a bunch of "open style" tournaments and we would fight Kung Fu, Shotokan, Isshin Ryu, Kenpo, and Taekwondo practitioners. It was always fun to see what kind of tricks they had up their sleeves or what their specialties were. Taekwondo fighters were always the hardest puzzles to crack. They are so damn fast and their kicks come from everywhere
I haven't practiced shotokan karate for about 13 years. I'm older, less flexible, unfit and out of shape. Your videos have inspired me to seek out a local shotokan club. I want to get back to that feeling where I felt strong and had confidence. Thank you Jesse
Did you sign up
5 months later. Where you at ???
Do kickboxing or muay thai instead
@@certifiedhater3817 Or maybe do something you enjoy, not what every MMA nerd tells you to do.
I did Shotokan as well. I loved it, but stopped after my instructor left and a family of very arrogant and out of shape people took over.
I really like some of the concepts (as my sensei presented them).
I’ll always claim American Karate.. but pineapple on pizza?! 😂😂😂 Thanks for the great time Jesse!!
Thanks Seth for hosting me and Oliver!! 🙏 See you soon again 😄
Pineapple on pizza is like mixing expensive whisky with coke.... it's your pizza so enjoy it however you like! ;-)
You did great! I think you were holding back on your usual intensity!
@@hughK321 I think that is the best way I have ever heard it put.
Pineapple Pizza is originally Canadian, but you can have it..
I think that all styles of karate are interesting. Japanese, American, korean, and European karate, i love them all
Never let your style limit your Karate! 🥋
..... This is the first time a youtuber has commented on my comment and i am so happy right now
But american is best, right?
@@Mattseak It doesnt matter what style of karate. As long as you train the right way, you can make any martial art work (exept chi-blocking dont try that sh*t)
Yes sir! I agree- with the caveat that it’s not McDojo! 😃
Seths sparring tactic to say "Okinawa" is hilarious😂
CRACKED ME UP!
@@horaceholloway 🤣🤣
Two of my favorite Karate guys, along with that Hard 2 Hurt guy. Sensei Seth, I have much love and respect for your skill. However, Jesse's attention to technical nuance is legendary. This guy can not only give you the technical specs of each move but also the history. These are good videos. Please keep them coming.
One thing I would note about American martial Arts is that you have to remember back in the 60s and 70s, a lot of the people bringing the arts into the US were returning service members. So a lot of the training also had influences from their experiences and skills such as more modern defense scenarios and modern conditioning methods.
Like John Kreese in Karate Kid.
Ya, just like culture, martial arts has always been changing from taking on new influences, notably the Chinese and Japanese learning things from each other and incorporating what they liked from the other into their own forms. Very cool 😎
I think I know the biggest difference between trad and US karate mindset. Seth mentioned narrow focus, and yes but it comes down to this. American karate classes are almost never longer than an hour, and often only once a week for adults (most dojos here cater to kids). Traditional karate commits much more time to the learning environment.
Yes, one of the senseis that brought my style to the US was originally a golden gloves boxer, so in the US we incorporate much more boxing than Japan.
I am a taekwondo practitioner, but I find so much of your content helpful and relevant to my life. Thank you to both of you for every bit of your knowledge that you continue to share with all of us!
As a TKD black belt, both you and Seth have really convinced me to learn Karate.
Tae Kwon do specialises in kicks n karate has them too, but slightly different in execution. But a black belt Tae Kwon do admitted to me that the positioning of legs in TKD could result in leg problems later in life
Karate has more variety in hand attacks
@RangerMan-yv7rl This is all true. TKD kicks can definitely be done with correct technique AND still safely for joints long term, BUT they are not taught like this in most cases, just the correct technique.
So cool! Somehow this came up for me and I realize why after watching. The mutual respect, the willingness to learn and make mistakes, the aggressive yet controlled manner in which you sparred… Just two capable people learning and growing. It’s a really great thing to watch.
Love that!
I remember being a hardcore fan of Karate back when I was in high school, but then I kind of lost confidence in it after discovering other martial arts or combat sports like Muay Thai and MMA. I used to do Taekwondo in high school and uni, but felt it was lacking something that oomph that Karate had.
Watching your videos, however, restored my confidence in Karate, and I really love the content you make! Thanks for being such a cool and awesome Karate practitioner!
Jesse‘s style reminded me of Machida waiting for the counter not wasting movements as much while Seth looked like Wonderboy in his bouncy movements and angled lead hand strikes.
Exactly
Go look up Raymond Daniels, Elijah Everill, and Bailey Murphy. They're the kings of what you're describing.
Jesse your movements are so crisp and clean. I love hearing the uniform snap.
You're technique is perfect......
Yes Jesse is a very humble nice n likeable karate expert
This was a great video. I admire how humble and supportive of each other you both were. *Quality* content indeed.
By the way, I would also love to mention that my greatest highlight from this video is the front kick, roundhouse kick, spinning back kick, side kick, reverse punch, and backfist demonstration from 3:22 to 3:59 because of just how uniquely beautiful each motion on the punching bag was. Seth is sheer power, super strength, and pumped-up and manly virility incarnate when he does those moves. You, dear Jesse, are a phenomenal combination of sterling technique, clear focus, lethal strength, and boundless stamina. The energy you guys give in this highlight is the icing on this beautifully baked and superbly decorated cake.
Jesse's technique is impeccable, truly preserving the Art in Martial Art.
I teach Karate and own a Dojo with my father in America. I use to constantly try to keep our Dojo away from it being “Americanized” but then realized that is not necessarily a bad thing. As long as you are teaching good, effective karate well and you are being respectful to your students (and their wallets), I guess it does not matter too much if some things are different such as wearing a black Dōgi. What also matters is how your Dojo’s practices and attitudes effect the skill and behaviors of your students.
Regardless, love your videos and insight Jesse!
100% agree. In our club it's a mixture of traditional and conventional.
@@vksasdgaming9472 absolutely 💯
Wish I could find a class that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg here in America been training solo because of the costs but my friends over seas pay only 9$ a month and 30$ a month for their classes and that’s in usd wish I could find something like that here at home
@@vigilantminecraft8915 ya, unfortunately that would be impossible for any school to survive on here 😬
I'm not interested in the black gi, but will admit that I love the sleeveless gi.
Jesse's kick chambers are a work of art. Love the recent content with the extended martial arts family.
I noticed that, also. Jesse was more precise and 'form perfect' in his motion throughout.
what does "kick chambers" means?
@@CHADCONTEXT it refers to how he positions his leg before and after the kick, like 'chambering' a round in a firearm - it's in position to 'do its thing'
"This is not fast food, This requires PATIENCE" ... That's absolutely CORRECT and what we learn in our dojo.
Nice words, Jesse ❤
I appreciate the honesty that the trainer had in his answers. He was very direct about how that the fundamental difference in the two styles is rooted in the countries they came from.
The snap on your technique is so precise. Beautiful.
All of these collaborations from your trip to America have been so amazing to watch. Thank you so much.
Thank you!! Next up, Thailand 💪
So glad to see karateka coming together and having fun while also explaining regional differences of this martial art we love. Much respect to you all.
I’m a BJJ guy….but have done a few years of a couple different martial arts over the years…and I really enjoy your videos. Very informative and fun at the same time. 👍
As a fellow BJJ guy, we can both agree pulling gaurd is the only effective way to survive starting rolling standing up against the judo guy. Lest we get thrown 6 feet.
What an awesome video, guys! What a great way to keep learning. There were zero egos, and both were crazy open for learning. Huge fan of both these channels- I'm a hapkido and muai thai enthusiast. These guys are great teachers and entertainers. Anyone should feel proud to be taught by either of these men! AND Jesse's brother!
I am a red belt in tae kwon do and I’m really enjoying your video.
Really figuring out some cool valuable information ! And some really good tips for when I’m teaching
I loved the kata game of adding one move after each other as the form starts getting complicated. It was great and I’ll introduce it in my school
I'm loving Jesse's American journey! Been very educational for a heathen like me.
I wonder how much of the difference in technique comes from the fact that Seth also trains Muay Thai.
I didn’t see much Muay Thai in his style... He hid it well! 😇
The fact that Seth goes through the bag, instead of snapping back is a huge Muay Thai influence
@@wesleyLTH Depends tho. Cutting through isn't exactly a Muay Thai exclusive.
@@MT-if1si I'm also seeing flashes of fencing footwork in his jab
@@Aro2001 that's karate
I love watching your videos, been out of Martial arts for along time, got married had kids etc. don't have the free time for it anymore but when i do get the chance to look stuff up your videos always entertain and are very educational!
I really enjoyed this video. That back spinning kick was fire Jesse, and Seth, your soto-uke was something to behold. Thanks guys. Pretty awesome!
I'm from Iran and i attended Karate classes for years when i was younger, I remember we were not allowed to say Persian numbers, we had to say them in Japanese and also name of every move and stance we had to say in Japanese, he had to bow to show respect to Shihon when he showed up, and also we had hard discipline punishments like 100 push ups in row on knuckle on asphalt and other things, and the moves we did were very similar how Jesse performed, i haven't attended classes for more than 10 years now but i still can do them after warmup, i'm glad that i was thought the more traditional way
Old is gold! 🌟
That sounds amazing
american karate seems to be the lazy way (like the automatic gear shift instead of the regular gear change)
@@kurtsilvinohulsermann1337 not lazy way, but more suitable in realistic situation.
They're still disciplined but in a different way. (Proved by many pro fighters coming from the background)
In some of the Europe parts you will find only that style of Karate that preserves the tradition - bowing, counting in Japanese etc etc etc :)
I come from Karate Shotokan, as my Granpa and my dad, both trained back in the years by Sensei Shirai. I love the attitude of both but being honest, Japanese Karate is way more elegant in the movements. The American one seems some kind of applying karate to street fights. However great video and thank you for making it fun and interesting.
OSS !
Pretty movement does not make for good fighting.
@@bighands69 I think the beauty and high standard of the techniques are important... That's why it's called art
@@bighands69 I dunno. A back kick that folds the bag rather than pushes it is going to make an impression on whoever it hits.
@@pedrofernandes6668
What you think of as beautiful movement may not be considered beautiful. Sometimes people use the term Beautiful but what they mean is exaggerated movement with no purpose or something else.
Most Karate practiced in the world is not Japanese it is a copy of it.
Okay, ngl this is actually a great training technique. Thanks for the idea, Jesse-san & Sensei Seth.. 🙏🏻
Awesome!
Jesse…always humble, kind, and a great teacher student. Always learning, sharing, and teaching and growing without shouting and screaming from a pedestal of superiority and mastery.
I appreciate that!
Both are very good martial artists, love watching and learning from both. Now, I have to say, Jesse is more of the traditional smooth karate that I was taught. I admire Seth’s power as well. Seth just had too much jumping around during the sparring and was winded a little more, where as Jesse was sliding more and more balanced when he attacked. Great video guys! Please do more together!!!
I love both of your channels so much! Great collab ❤️ I enjoyed seeing the side by side comparisons 😀
Thank you!!
It’s a tie! Both of you learned from each other and that’s a win for both. Great video gentlemen. You two are great examples for our martial arts community. Much respect!
Love this , great video. Big Osu from Kyokushin student in Sweden
Great video you guys!
The snap sound from a heavyweight gi behind each good strike, never gets old.
My first Karate teacher, when I was in Yoshukai International, always told me the gi was design that way to let you know when your form is proper.
its amazing, how much skill these guys have under they’re belt. its truly incredible!
You're such a technician! I like how the more traditional one looks very clean and precise. For me personally, 'the west' is like a hammer, while 'the east' is like a scalpel.
Nice! 👊
Maybe it has to do with potential opponents.
In the west. The chances of fighting someone much larger then yourself is a lot greater. So there needs to be that strong stopping power in techniques.
In the east. Your opponents build would be more within range of your own. So quick efficient techniques are more valued.
Just my thoughts.
I think it's difficult to pick out style differences with only two practicioners; sparring especially feels like it's as much based on the individual preferences and strengths as it is on lineage.
I've done "traditional" karate sparring before, but people in the dojo had wrestling or boxing backgrounds or even experience with different karate styles prior. I think the label "traditional" makes it seem like the style has remained unchanged since its "creation", but all martial arts change and adapt. The changes just aren't the same as in American karate
Jesse, you know how to bring such positive and fun energy to karate. Thanks for the great videos and motivation. (You’re cool too Seth)
Karate should be fun!! 😄🥋💪
I’m a practitioner of kenpo karate, its more of a mma style (mixed martial arts) mixing various chinese martial arts, it doesn’t take as long to learn as traditional karate because something I’ve noticed in traditional karate you drill one move over and over again in different classes, but in kenpo you can learn various moves and combos then go home and drill them in on your free time
Many Kenpo schools don’t practice basic movements enough, or correctly. In this they could take a hint from traditional karate.
I love the humbleness between you guys
You eating Chicago pizza mixes two of my favorite things to make this my current favorite youtube video of all time.
That was awesome!. Thank you both for the great video!. It would be really cool to see you guys spar a few rounds to see the differences/strategies, the two of you would come up with. Thank you both for all the great content you guys have put out over the years!
I find it so respectful and adorable that you discover all of the different martial arts and karate styles and fight sports
“Not fighting, not sparring, just drilling.” - Seth just perfectly described most American kenpo stylists
Tack så jättemycket, bra video.
Seth was legit. Love this Jesse. Nerd you nailed this version of differences. All both really good.
As an Isshin-Ryu karate ka I really enjoyed this comparison. The friendliness was refreshing and the smiles were original. Well done. A lot of videos slander other martial arts but this was just good stuff. Cheers
I loved the pizza analogy at the end. ;) I admire you both! Blessings.
Glad you understood and enjoyed 😄
That intro 🤣🤣🤣! Loved it! The collab I never knew I wanted!
Glad to hear! 😄
Idk why but your kata has that oomf to it that makes it very lovely to watch
Danke!
Loving the content guys. I like the build-a-kata exercise and will talk to my sensei about adding that for training one night. After we cap at a sensible around of techniques, then try to create the bunkai and oiyo for it.
Digging the final fantasy victory theme in the video too.
I took something away from the sparring too. I saw Seth do two jabs and then a ushiro Geri which I will incorporate into some fun sparring as I need to practice my spin speed and it’s viability in a match/real life situation
👊 thanks again
I learned Uechi-ryu during university many years ago and we kicked through on roundhouse kicks but snapped back front kicks. When I took TKD with my son many years later, they snapped their roundhouse kicks back but kicked through on front kicks. Go figure.
The snap on your spinning back kick seems like it would do much more damage than Seth's which looked a bit more pushy. Both of you did great though! Much respect, love the channel
Not more damage just a different type of damage.
More like Jesse is more of a splash damage while Seth is more penetrating damage, both things hurt
This is, definately, one of the most awesome things I've ever seen!!!
Congratulations for you guys!!!
Greetings from Brazil
The kata game was really enjoyable to watch, very cool to see the body control, creativity and technique
00:06 I mean American karate is obviously superior, it has invisibility belts and if you can't be seen you can't be hit...
Me and my brothers all trained traditional eastern karate and this is actually the first time I've heard America has its own version of karate
Great video! At the end no matter what is your style, controlling timing and distance is the whole science. And... great pizza
It was delicious
Seth’s explanation of American karate is great. Glad he’s super open and transparent about it. It helps with the understanding.
I’m a runner who does absolutely no martial arts but with great ambassadors like this my mind is opening. High five fellas you represented your schools.
Okinawa, ____________________
The birthplace of Karate 🤪
The birthplace of karate
Too interesting! Great video, sensei Jesse!!
Much appreciated 🙏
Fun video. I'll be starting up Isshin Ryu soon (boo COVID restrictions). I practiced Tae Kwon Do for 7 years (years ago), so it'll be interesting seeing the difference. I struggled a lot learning Changquan Wushu because of the muscle memory I'd formed in TKD. Doing a front raising kick during warm-ups and having to keep my heel on the ground was so strange. Vertical fist in Isshin Ryu will likely be a challenge. Love seeing varying styles!
Easily the most humble bro wholesome vid I've seen this month
two very nice and humble guys..had fun to watch this
Love both these guys. Nice to see Seth doing some Kata and it looked pretty good. But Jesse's Kata is at a special level and he just absords things on the fly really quickly. The kumite looked pretty good from both sides but the lineages are very clear with the footwork etc. This was fun.
Loving Seth’s style….fun, humble and I’m very sure dude’s deadly!
Seems like Seth was using more mass and power and Jesse has like a powerful cutting motion and form in the kicks
Awesome video guys. I took Kenpo when I was much much much younger and when it came to sparring...we threw a lot of leading punches and kicks. I ended up leaving Kenpo after only neing in it for a few months because school took priority but when I got into High School...I got into and stuck with Shidokan Karate until I achieved 1st Dan. I really miss the dojo so i practice kata out in the front yard from time to time
Guys, your videos are super fun, you are doing it the way it should be done, training hard, and having fun. Keep up the amazing job you are doing !!!
Great video Jesse. I came up in an American karate Dojo and yes we had different color Gi and did birthday parties on the weekend. (My Kyokushin friend laughed at me about this) However, I am proud to say that I came from one of the few gyms that trained kickboxing style/ PKA style. We sparred often and fought hard and not point fighting. Black belt took minimum 10 years. American karate has dropped significantly since the 80's and 90's but there are a few good dojos left. They are just harder to find. Osu.
I started in Kempo, and drifted to my landing at Okinawan karate.
There are great elements to combine from each. The way Tadashi Yamashita demonstrates Shorin ryu is a good example of how that blend looks.
I agree 100% with your comment. Well said. I am curious to know where you are located? It is interesting to see the places he has traveled to teach.
16 seconds ago!!
Jesse I really like your videos and these collabs with Seth are amazing.Your tips for kicks and kumite are really helpful.Thank you
-Yellow belt
Awesome! Keep going 😄
@@KARATEbyJesse Thank you!
I have a background of kung fu but my sifu (teacher) couldn't afford to run his business anymore and he recommended me to kenpo karate which I wasn't sure about doing because of how different it is. But after seeing you guy's spar and do kata, you showed me that kenpo karate is the right way for me to go in the long run. Thank you.
These two guys are what we need more of on TH-cam.
Keep in mind, the stuff that Seth does is not the same as the kempo karate that Ed Parker used to do, which is the one that had the mannequin training where you do, like, 50 strikes all at once, the one that Ed Parker did, actually came from a man named James mitose, it actually has a lot more influence from Chinese martial arts, and it is unrelated to sensei Seth's style of kempo karate, which is mainly influenced by goju ryu karate
It's a mix of both Chinese and Japanese.
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Which is a fun curiosity considering that Karate itself was heavily influenced by Chinese martial arts.
The ending pizza scene is a metaphor for karate, untraditional pizza/karate can still be delicious/great.
Ahhh, now I want to watch like 10 more minutes of you guys sparring.
100% agree on this.
your ability to go fast and slow is really nice, its something i need to incorporate in my katas
Not sure why I started to watch this channel... Combination of great respect to karate history, knowledge, analysis and comparison, irony, sharing your experience and emotions, making your auditory to think? Well done.
🙏🙏🙏
This final round was almost as tense as the All Valley Under 18 Tournament
Both wins!! I'm your fan. Thanks for demonstration. 🙂👌🥋
My absolute pleasure!!
The kata challenge is interesting - I'd *also* find that very challenging.
Martial Arts has always been great at bringing people together. Learning from each other, caring for each other, it's beautiful and humbling. I'm glad I've dedicated such a large portion of my life to it. While I haven't practiced Karate I respect all forms and disciplines. We should all strive to learn together. Much love for all of you.
As a 43yr old who used to fight, I LOVE your humble approach 💜