@@avangardismmif you declare with your mouth “I like big sweaty black balls in my face” then god will summon Tyrone the champion to slap his meat on you
The one real thing that makes 2B2T stand out from the rest is the sheer amount of organically created lore, replete with artifacts, ruins and stories that few MC servers, hell even video game servers in general have whatsoever. The soft economy reset and removing illegal blocks erased a lot of the history of the server and the stories those items tell. There’s nothing wrong with balancing the server to be more playable and enjoyable, but the history scattered everywhere is the one thing that shouldn’t ever be touched as that’s what really makes 2B2T truly unique.
@@shanetestini5547 wow so clever wholesome 100 shut up players have the right to do what they want, it's literally an anarchy server. hause is literally giving the "no rules" server rules now, is it that surprising that people are outraged?
@@yeah1522 That wasnt my point. I was simply asking why it would be different if a player wipes out a historic site rather then the admin. His intention was to improve server performance, not delete the history of the server. Also anarchy should apply to hause master as well. Hes free to make what ever changes he wants. Hes literally the owner of the server. 2B2T isnt truely a anarchy server, hause master has removed people priority que access, and chat privilages for various reason before. Clearly there lines he punishes people for crossing.
@@shanetestini5547 Part of the history of 2B2T is that things are temporary and often destroyed, which in some ways makes the relics and stories people do have more valuable. Also, the destruction of certain bases or items are themselves historically important, and adds to the grand narrative of 2b2t. I personally hate how common griefing is, and cringe when a group blows up a beautiful base that took years to complete, but I’m not a 2b2t player
Unfortunately, Housemaster is just trying to keep the server as "Anarchy Friendly" while preventing Mojang from banning the Server's IP completely. As the most notorious Server for breaking EULA, the Mojang dev have begun work blocking IPs of many servers with even minor offences; instead of you know, letting the community do moderation as they have been for 12 years.
Yeah, you just made that up. 2b2t only breaks the eula for selling priority queues, as under the eula all players need to pay the same price for access (whether that be free or a set cost). And mojang hasn't done anything about that (yet)
Yea no thats BS yes Microsoft are forcing a new eula..... But they so far haven't taken any action.... Plus only the priority queue system breaks it..... Thy don't care if your rocking impact client
It seems reasonable until you realize it serves no purpose, the server size will barely be impacted and the extra memory for it is extremely cheap comepared to the amount made from priority subscriptions.
i think 2b2t gets some unfair blame, mojang recently doubled down on their stupid child friendly rules and i bet 2b2t had to add rules to not be striked by mojang
My inner English teacher is screaming every time you end your intros with "today in this video...". Try ending with a rhetorical question like "Will 2b2t be able to recover from such backlash?". It's much more engaging and confident!
Long term, I think the Minecraft anarchy community as a whole is screwed. Its only a matter of time before Micro$oft decides they need to go and makes a serious attempt at it. It will be interesting to see how other games (Minetest, Vintage Story, Hytale (if/when it releases)) could pull off an anarchy environment.
I don't see why Microsoft would care. 2b2t is just a server. Microsoft taking responsibility for the content of 2b2t would be like Google Chrome taking responsibility for the content of some random website.
@@baileyharrison1030 + remember when blocksmc was blacklisted by mojang? no? because 30 minutes after they had already changed their server ip and since it haven't got any problem
@@baileyharrison1030 Well, I mean that's exactly what they're trying to do. They've already directly gone after servers who make slightly realistic gun weapons, so going after full blown anarchy with all sorts of toxic elements isn't that big of a stretch.
Man, Hytale has been in development since 2014. I don't think we're ever going to get it at this point lmao. It was supposed to come out 2 years ago now
@@Lunabyessame lmao I wish they'd just come out and tell us the truth, that the project has been scrapped because they over promised and can't deliver on what they said they would. That's just my speculation and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case or at least something similar
The harassment and threats rule is probably to curtail legal liability. In a lot of countries, with the wrong folks taking it all seriously (even if it's not) it can end up in court. The owners of 2b2t could end up footing legal bills that make carrying that kind of content just not worth it.
In my opinion, deleting those unused chunks was fine, sure they're a part of history, but they were unused anyways, and you never know, maybe that chunk had an ancient city but because it was generated long before the update it didn't generate.
@@ertgb_ oh, didn't know that, but what about the biomes, a cooler biome might have generated next to your base if chunks are reset. Also, the modified terrain generator was a cool idea, as we could have seen more bases and maybe prevent coord exploits, but Sal just didn't like it because he was a base hunter of some sort. Wish Hause just focused on the major stuff why players are angry such as the economy reset, outlawing duping on an anarchy server and xray prevention
Unfortunately, with how the server is, id be more worried about how microsoft is likely going to ban the IP soon due to EULA changes and a history of EULA and TOS violations. A community complaining to Hausemaster might mean a change, but a community complaining to Microsoft once the server is inevitably taken down, will get no response.
If you have 3 quarters, 4 dimes, and 4 pennies, you have $1.19. You also have the largest amount of money in coins without being able to make change for a dollar.
honestly, I don't think he did it out of any ill will; he just wanted to update the server to 1.19, but he just updated the server in a way that wasn't satisfactory to the player base because most of the changes he made were to reduce the lag and stuff. honestly, I think what should've happened was more communication between him and the player base to set some compromises for the player base.
Agreed. Players became strongly opposed to many good changes due to the presentation. The various owners have ALWAYS removed lag machines, yet the community thought this was something new because of its wording. "Hause" should have kept the chunk trimming and explained how the system really can only target historyless chunks, burying any controversy in what looks like logic but are actually unfalsifiable claims - here's how it works, no you can't inspect the source code, yes it does just so happen to be something we both can agree to. Ultimately it's the server owner's job to keep the server running, and that requires the team to make token efforts to respect the EULA and to discourage server-ruining behavior eg lag machines. All the team has learned from this experience is that they have to baby the playerbase as the anarchy community is too quick to judge.
@@boldCactusladThat still removes many of the tactics players use, and also erase a lot of history of the server. The fact that they are actually untouched by players is a big deal considering what the server's playerbase is known to do. It's also preserved examples of terrain made in that specific version of the game too.
nah plenty of ill will there, an example is he specifically targeted player's stashes especially the pvp stashes which is a core part of 2b2t, imagine all your stacks of 64x enchanted golden apples becomes only 1x unstackable enchanted golden apple, then house was like "lmao just get more" but he doesnt fking disclose that enchanted golden apples are uncraftable and would be basically unobtainable (2% chance for newly generated chests from temples).
2b2t players not throwing a fit when 2 terabytes worth of chunks nobody has ever even seen get deleted and they're told not to dox children online challenge (impossible, apparently)
What a wild ride this has been. After doing some research on all the updated blocks ect. since 1.12, I’m very excited. The only thing that I’m not to happy with is the creeper spawn rate is insane, and I think we’re gonna lose a lot signs unintentionally. In just a few days I’ve already accidentally blown up a a 2015 sign, and I’m very careful. I now use freecam to read signs Lol Great video, and I look forward to the new blocks!
I honestly think the chunk culling should have stayed. The map is getting seriously huge, deleting chunks that no one's actually used would have helped a lot.
Honestly items had to have stayed the same/server had to re-update imo mainly because it set a precedent for nuking them again in the future. Chunk trimming was also a huge thing imo.
It feels like the majority of changes everyone was up-in-arms over were good changes. To be fair, I am not a 2b2t player, so it's not my place to judge.. but I'm curious if a slower rollout of some of those changes might be better for all involved. It's also interesting to point out how many of the changes are literally Mojang/Microsoft threatening action, and Hause responding appropriately, but because the 2b2t community is anarchist in nature - of course they don't accept this. Hopefully they are never punished for this. It's wrong of Mojang/Microsoft so suddenly change and demand that the game be played differently. Once you've sold a game - it isn't yours anymore. All the recent changes destroying the game for long-time players are not okay.
If only that were the case, but in reality even though you paid for the game you don't own it, you just own a license they can alter or even take away from you
The surprising thing is that the better changes got veto'd. You know there'll be a dupe immediately, and with the items already having no value, wtf is the point? Also fucking people over via trails > making the map actually new and exciting.
the new update is pretty cool. only downside is that 50% of hacked clients aren't supported anymore lmao. (unless you want your striders to be magma cubes with a name tag that makes zombie sounds. yes this actually happens.)
I'm an Impact user, and between this and another server I've got friends on coming back up hopefully, I've needed to try and find an alternative. Installing Meteor (It's the closest free client I can think of to Impact) is currently a pain as I'm not a good Fabric mod user
the situation is (mostly) over, SalC1 withdrew and the strikers got what they wanted removed from the update. Anything past this is probably gonna fade away
i really do think it's a good update. not only does it make 2b2t more inviting without making it too inviting so that it doesnt just become a vanilla server, it also alienates the older 2b2t members, so that they stop playing 2b2t and maybe have a chance to go outside again. truly a win-win scenario.
100% sounds like everyone didn't want the server to be as hard as it was intended to be and used monetary coercion to get their easy life back. A lot of what made the server easy were outright glitches simply being fixed. I can't really blame the owner for caving, though. At some point you can't have a server at all if that's how people are going to behave. Hosting ain't free. Great shame cause it sounds like, had people gotten used to it, it would have injected life in to the server again. What's the point of all the history of the server laying around with no one to play on it? Ridiculous. I worry this will create an even worse disaster in the future, too. Now they can get what they want by just flashing their credit cards. That's not going to be something that works out for the best. But the community brought it on themselves.
End of the day money would have been a factor that forced Hause to respond. Servers cost money and if people protest with their wallets change will inevitably happen. However I don't think this will be players 'controlling' Hause, rather I think (and hope) this will be a lesson for Hause. If this was just a simple F2P server then yeah sweeping changes would have gone in fine with no issues but when people pay money for a service you need to be transparent when changes are coming.
I can understand removing blocks and items. Every item adds data to the server and to many items can bog it down, however on a server like this its a bit hard to remove any items.
i love how all the people are raging cause the Owner updated his server. I personally would of never rolled back or anything, I'd of just updated to 1.19 and said 'don't like it, then too fucking bad".
props to Hausemaster for being the bigger man, he just wanted to give the server a fresh breath of air and make it more fun. but it backlashed and he listened. i salute you, Hausemaster
I still physically cringe at seeing 2b2t in any public light, including this video. I had my time there, it got flooded by children, and I'll be glad when it's fully gone. Good riddance
For those mad at 2b2t's server owners over these changes, blame Mojang/Microshaft for their recent Orwellian EULA changes which basically outlawed 2b2t in it's intended form with extreme prejudice. It was either 2b2t become something else entirely or be shut down forever.
The trouble wasn’t exclusive to the 2b2t playerbase, but to all anarchy players. Everyone had to deal with the influx of children begging for kits, only for them to retreat to 2b shortly after-not to mention the unbearable lag they brought.
This is unfortunate. Housemaster should've audited these major changes with his community, made the necessary compromises and implemented them over the span of a few years... It's an ugly stain of an already bad record as a community manager
honestly I don't think he did it out of any ill will he just wanted to update the server to 1.19 but he just updated the server in a way that wasn't satisfactory to the player base cause like most of the changes he made was to reduce the lag and stuff honestly I think what should've happened was more communication between him and the player base to set some compromises for the player base.
i think in the end it worked out for the best, and im glad the owner listened to the community. id been waiting til 1.19 to rejoin the server, and now its good to be back
tbh, I understand why hausemaster implemented the rules. Its not up to him, but mojang. If he doesn't at least appear to be cognizant of the eula agreement, he could have his account and server removed
We would all absolutely love for 2b2t to update to the newest version, however, we don't want unnecessary, banal, and stodgy rules to be introduced and enforced, we would just like the update.
2b2t is not and never was an "anarchy server." It's a vanilla server with no formalized rules. "Anarchy server" is a designation given to servers inspired by the environment this fostered.
I'm fairly confident housemaster is no longer in control of the server and he sold it. The removal of greentext is the biggest giveaway, a 4chan oldfag would never remove it.
Great video Vincent, I really like how you waited to give a more objective and factual observation of the new changes instead of throwing together multiple quick videos while all this was happening. I really wonder where fit is at though… what was the clip at 12:25 from? Is that from a recent stream? Anyways great video.
I find it a bit funny that anarchy server players of all things, expected the server owner to maintain and enforce anarchy like it's a rule to be enforced.
i find it funny that people were up in arms with actual rules being a thing. its disgusting, really, and the people up in arms are exactly the kind of people thats not welcome online.
From all the changes I am in favour of the anti-x-ray. It will force players to either work harder or to discover new creative ways to find ores. When I get to this server I will definitely have hard time finding anything, but it's 2b2t, so players with knowledge of some hacks should be the ones that win. But I am definitely opposed to undoing previous progress, as cheating is totally legitimate way to gather resources on this server. Patching the bugs is OK, but punishing the players that found them first is definitely not.
While the owner and the community both had fair points, I believe the crucial mistake was the immediate changes applied to the server without consulting the community. Like Chat Report. Applied without the opinion of the people. You remember the back clash. I believe rules and changes should have been brought to the players as a Poll, like the owner did for the final fate of the server rollback.
Really its smart for house to listen to the community. There are two definitions of anarchy no rules which would mean a unplayable server full of lag machines and just can’t be or no rulers and would have community based decisions. If you have rules and house being a dictator you aren’t anarchy by any definition.
as a regular const player I think the whole 2b2t was used to the luxuries of a broken economy is VERY true. const's economy is much more scarce than 2b2t's and I'll tell you right now it is very riveting having to think before entering combat with mobs and with players. I was shocked finding out that most of the folks on const were pretty against the 2b2t changes. (barring the huge influx of 2b2t players)
Even though harsher changes new players are eliminated as people wont want to go through the trouble of downloading a specific version of Minecraft just to play 2b2t
Hope this doesn't ruin updates going forward, this ordeal might mean 2B2T will be stuck on 1.12 forever. It didn't sound all bad with the changes, chunk regeneration sounded good, there's literally nothing there so who cares? Plus, modern mechanics like swimming, heck yes. Only really bad was the economy update, removing totems and crystals, ouch. I think that was what set people off, by the time Hause stepped in to offer an undo, they wanted to make it hurt by restoring the chunks too. Maybe if they cooled down, they'd reconsider regenerating chunks.
As a normal player I don't really have any idea about 2b2t's things but personally i think housemaster has left the community almost intact for many years and even if what he did was pretty harsh and fast he still deserves to have some say and yet as it's said money does rule most of things and he probably realized that at this point rather than him the community rules the server
I'm seriously surprised Hause hasn't just scrapped the server yet, since he has many times said that he doesn't enjoy maintaining or moderating the server and threatened that if the donations don't exceed $1000 any month he would just close the server.
really shows how conservative fanbase can ruin a pretty good update most of these changes are actually good like mobs spawning, removing unused chunks so new terrain can generate and the server takes up less space, no phantoms enforcing the rules (even though the rules were always there) and resetting economy are kinda a mixed bag which should've been discussed with a fanbase before updating still, i think it's better than letting the server stagnate in never-changing meta and HUGE world of basically pre-alpha terrain
The "rules" for an anarchy server should be the bare minimum, with "rules" only being established or enforced when, should they not, the server becomes unplayable.
Imagine getting upset that your cheats in an extremely easy game were removed, and crying like a child. Also, I would think chunk culling would be welcomed, since like 80% of the map within a large travel distance were already generated, and no chunk culling largely negates benefit of updating.
i cant but completely agree with housemaster about the chunk trimming salc1 is the most dramatic 40 year old ever, they explicitly said chunks with builds on them wouldnt be affected the server endured years of chunk loading related exploits so there is terrain that was never touched and never will be, trimming those off would make the new blocks easier to obtain get more of those funny terrain generation borders which i personally enjoy since they show the age of the server there was a boom with the elytra where players would just randomly fly around to make the world bigger on purpose and yes haha its funy we break the server hehe, but the file went from gigas to teras in just a few weeks, thats thousands of dollars needed to keep unused files i dont think its wrong to look for ways to improve the gameplay on the server and its sustainability
unrolling chunk trimming means server maintenance cost remains high. consequences: - if amount of priority queue players drastically goes down - server may become unprofitable. what will hause do in such case? - if priority queue players group up again and demand some stupid feature just to fun, like weddings, hause will listen to them again?
I still can’t believe he thought this was a good idea.. but at least he is gonna revert it all.. thankfully. Oh and great video btw! Love the Mario galaxy music as well 😅
Maybe changing to 1.19 would be a good idea erasing untouched chunks, that way you have the best of both worlds allowing old chunks to spawn with the new engine
there's no way shit's going to update ever now, which might not be a bad thing. If haus wants to continue their own interest in the game instead of retiring the server entirely in ten years when the fun stops again he should make a new anarchy server with his update specifications. New revenue stream, new arena to fill with new precedent
Nobody can tell me that is the real haus trying to make some of these changes. Feels weird when ppl talk about haus they actually believe its really him.
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To clarify, since I didn't fully explain it, 2b2t has been reset to the first day of 1.19 without the economy reset and chunk culling.
fix your speech impediment
@1fault no, this is peak gamer speech
Did the timestamps disappeared?
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@@1faultthen don't watch if you don't like it
@@1fault one day someone is going to fix your attitude for you.
the most surprising thing about this whole situation is that fitmc hasn't made a video yet
Honestly, I am pretty sure Fit was in the middle of making one until Hause decided to apologise.
He probably had to scrap his original video after hause went back on the changes
I think fit no longer trust housemaster and let his channel went into archive mode.
At this point, Fit has probably left the server
fit is hause
One of the few times I’d argue Hause buying cocaine is better than wasting his time on this server.
Then how does he get the money to buy the cocaine if the server is a waste of time?
.....become a drug dealer...?@@MrRosco
If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9
@@avangardismmif you declare with your mouth “I like big sweaty black balls in my face” then god will summon Tyrone the champion to slap his meat on you
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The one real thing that makes 2B2T stand out from the rest is the sheer amount of organically created lore, replete with artifacts, ruins and stories that few MC servers, hell even video game servers in general have whatsoever. The soft economy reset and removing illegal blocks erased a lot of the history of the server and the stories those items tell. There’s nothing wrong with balancing the server to be more playable and enjoyable, but the history scattered everywhere is the one thing that shouldn’t ever be touched as that’s what really makes 2B2T truly unique.
Do you have that same view when other players destroy the history of the server?
@@shanetestini5547no
@@shanetestini5547 wow so clever wholesome 100 shut up
players have the right to do what they want, it's literally an anarchy server. hause is literally giving the "no rules" server rules now, is it that surprising that people are outraged?
@@yeah1522 That wasnt my point. I was simply asking why it would be different if a player wipes out a historic site rather then the admin. His intention was to improve server performance, not delete the history of the server. Also anarchy should apply to hause master as well. Hes free to make what ever changes he wants. Hes literally the owner of the server.
2B2T isnt truely a anarchy server, hause master has removed people priority que access, and chat privilages for various reason before. Clearly there lines he punishes people for crossing.
@@shanetestini5547 Part of the history of 2B2T is that things are temporary and often destroyed, which in some ways makes the relics and stories people do have more valuable. Also, the destruction of certain bases or items are themselves historically important, and adds to the grand narrative of 2b2t.
I personally hate how common griefing is, and cringe when a group blows up a beautiful base that took years to complete, but I’m not a 2b2t player
Unfortunately, Housemaster is just trying to keep the server as "Anarchy Friendly" while preventing Mojang from banning the Server's IP completely. As the most notorious Server for breaking EULA, the Mojang dev have begun work blocking IPs of many servers with even minor offences; instead of you know, letting the community do moderation as they have been for 12 years.
Raid Mojang
Yeah, you just made that up. 2b2t only breaks the eula for selling priority queues, as under the eula all players need to pay the same price for access (whether that be free or a set cost). And mojang hasn't done anything about that (yet)
@@petey5009wrong since hacks are also not allowed under eula
Yea no thats BS yes Microsoft are forcing a new eula..... But they so far haven't taken any action.... Plus only the priority queue system breaks it..... Thy don't care if your rocking impact client
@@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131 WRONG a simple Google would debunk that.... But you're too ignorant or stupid to do that
Tbh, the chunk culling logic seems solid, every other change is ridiculous, but i wouldn't mind deleting chunks that literally no one even stepped on.
Idk that seemed like the worst one of all. Seeing a map with chunks where it’s comically apparent it when they were generated kind of adds a lot.
Actually, with this one, I will silently agree. Though, giving players a 1 month heads up about the chunks is most likely necessary
change is hard get used to it.
@@hectormontes7056It would still be obvious when they were generated, reverting has no benefit, but largely neutralizes any benefit of updating.
It seems reasonable until you realize it serves no purpose, the server size will barely be impacted and the extra memory for it is extremely cheap comepared to the amount made from priority subscriptions.
i think 2b2t gets some unfair blame, mojang recently doubled down on their stupid child friendly rules and i bet 2b2t had to add rules to not be striked by mojang
I highly doubt Microsoft would go after adult-themed servers in court...
@@DxBlackwhy wouldn't they, it would be way easier since the proof would be abundant.
@@DxBlack they already went for gta servers and said "no guns allowed"
@@DxBlack they have already before
@@DxBlack they have it says that tall online servers have to at least follow a certain set of rules on microsofts end or they get nuked
My inner English teacher is screaming every time you end your intros with "today in this video...". Try ending with a rhetorical question like "Will 2b2t be able to recover from such backlash?". It's much more engaging and confident!
Long term, I think the Minecraft anarchy community as a whole is screwed. Its only a matter of time before Micro$oft decides they need to go and makes a serious attempt at it. It will be interesting to see how other games (Minetest, Vintage Story, Hytale (if/when it releases)) could pull off an anarchy environment.
I don't see why Microsoft would care. 2b2t is just a server. Microsoft taking responsibility for the content of 2b2t would be like Google Chrome taking responsibility for the content of some random website.
@@baileyharrison1030 + remember when blocksmc was blacklisted by mojang? no? because 30 minutes after they had already changed their server ip and since it haven't got any problem
@@baileyharrison1030 Well, I mean that's exactly what they're trying to do. They've already directly gone after servers who make slightly realistic gun weapons, so going after full blown anarchy with all sorts of toxic elements isn't that big of a stretch.
Man, Hytale has been in development since 2014. I don't think we're ever going to get it at this point lmao. It was supposed to come out 2 years ago now
@@Lunabyessame lmao I wish they'd just come out and tell us the truth, that the project has been scrapped because they over promised and can't deliver on what they said they would. That's just my speculation and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case or at least something similar
The only change I was okay with was the chunk culling. I'm glad things were rolled back
The harassment and threats rule is probably to curtail legal liability. In a lot of countries, with the wrong folks taking it all seriously (even if it's not) it can end up in court. The owners of 2b2t could end up footing legal bills that make carrying that kind of content just not worth it.
In my opinion, deleting those unused chunks was fine, sure they're a part of history, but they were unused anyways, and you never know, maybe that chunk had an ancient city but because it was generated long before the update it didn't generate.
I could be wrong, but it's possible ancient cities could still spawn because the deepslate is all newly generated
POV: Ancient cities generate anyway bc the world height was lowered
@@sethsmith2608 that's not how you use POV
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POV: no one asked frfr
@@ertgb_ oh, didn't know that, but what about the biomes, a cooler biome might have generated next to your base if chunks are reset. Also, the modified terrain generator was a cool idea, as we could have seen more bases and maybe prevent coord exploits, but Sal just didn't like it because he was a base hunter of some sort. Wish Hause just focused on the major stuff why players are angry such as the economy reset, outlawing duping on an anarchy server and xray prevention
watched this stuff happen live, thank god they rolled back to the 1.12 map without any map editing
If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9
@@avangardismm based
Is the game version still in 1.19? Or 1.12?
@@737e7dhs4 Server's on 1.19 now without any modifications made to the map and inventories.
@@737e7dhs4did u figure it out?
its kinda funny how they want anarchy, but only if they are the ones on top. like, thats not what anarchy is brother.
Unfortunately, with how the server is, id be more worried about how microsoft is likely going to ban the IP soon due to EULA changes and a history of EULA and TOS violations.
A community complaining to Hausemaster might mean a change, but a community complaining to Microsoft once the server is inevitably taken down, will get no response.
An violence chemical weapons warfare against Microsoft will be carried out
2B2T alive today. But for how long.
9:27 he should build a rainbow at spawn, would be a good way to show he'd never globally reset again
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@@737e7dhs4 I don't think you get the reference
it would get destroyed instantly
That's hilarious. I love it.
I'm going to be that person and find it funny how angry they get when a rule as simple as don't crash the server is put in place it causes chaos
I think chunk culling was a good idea makes new intresting terrain and allows people to share about their bases
"To have people obtain them again"
_shows clip of a stack of enchanted gapples being returned to 1, an item which has no recipe anymore_
If you have 3 quarters, 4 dimes, and 4 pennies, you have $1.19. You also have the largest amount of money in coins without being able to make change for a dollar.
honestly, I don't think he did it out of any ill will; he just wanted to update the server to 1.19, but he just updated the server in a way that wasn't satisfactory to the player base because most of the changes he made were to reduce the lag and stuff. honestly, I think what should've happened was more communication between him and the player base to set some compromises for the player base.
Agreed. Players became strongly opposed to many good changes due to the presentation. The various owners have ALWAYS removed lag machines, yet the community thought this was something new because of its wording. "Hause" should have kept the chunk trimming and explained how the system really can only target historyless chunks, burying any controversy in what looks like logic but are actually unfalsifiable claims - here's how it works, no you can't inspect the source code, yes it does just so happen to be something we both can agree to.
Ultimately it's the server owner's job to keep the server running, and that requires the team to make token efforts to respect the EULA and to discourage server-ruining behavior eg lag machines. All the team has learned from this experience is that they have to baby the playerbase as the anarchy community is too quick to judge.
I do not agree, after that response to salc1 I think that he did that by his will
@@boldCactusladThat still removes many of the tactics players use, and also erase a lot of history of the server. The fact that they are actually untouched by players is a big deal considering what the server's playerbase is known to do. It's also preserved examples of terrain made in that specific version of the game too.
nah plenty of ill will there, an example is he specifically targeted player's stashes especially the pvp stashes which is a core part of 2b2t, imagine all your stacks of 64x enchanted golden apples becomes only 1x unstackable enchanted golden apple, then house was like "lmao just get more" but he doesnt fking disclose that enchanted golden apples are uncraftable and would be basically unobtainable (2% chance for newly generated chests from temples).
@@randovid1 I mean, he isn’t entirely wrong about getting more since there is duplication methods. But it does feel rather spiteful still.
2b2t players not throwing a fit when 2 terabytes worth of chunks nobody has ever even seen get deleted and they're told not to dox children online challenge (impossible, apparently)
What a ride we had. Great video dude :)
yes it was
hey raaanch!
Hello @@spritzerland658
What a wild ride this has been. After doing some research on all the updated blocks ect. since 1.12, I’m very excited. The only thing that I’m not to happy with is the creeper spawn rate is insane, and I think we’re gonna lose a lot signs unintentionally. In just a few days I’ve already accidentally blown up a a 2015 sign, and I’m very careful. I now use freecam to read signs Lol Great video, and I look forward to the new blocks!
"I now use freecam to look at signs." Good tip.
I honestly think the chunk culling should have stayed. The map is getting seriously huge, deleting chunks that no one's actually used would have helped a lot.
6:56
"brought out *the man* in players"
Lmao Vincent! That's such a funny way to put it, but I whole-heatedly agree
Honestly items had to have stayed the same/server had to re-update imo mainly because it set a precedent for nuking them again in the future. Chunk trimming was also a huge thing imo.
hause's response to salc1 was incomprehensibly based and im honestly kinda sad he apologized
It based to jump on a landmine you know. Based in death.
Most definitely. It goes to show you the amount of manchildren who still play 2b2t
2b2t is now a democracy server
love it that he responds as soon as he starts losing money
It feels like the majority of changes everyone was up-in-arms over were good changes. To be fair, I am not a 2b2t player, so it's not my place to judge.. but I'm curious if a slower rollout of some of those changes might be better for all involved.
It's also interesting to point out how many of the changes are literally Mojang/Microsoft threatening action, and Hause responding appropriately, but because the 2b2t community is anarchist in nature - of course they don't accept this. Hopefully they are never punished for this. It's wrong of Mojang/Microsoft so suddenly change and demand that the game be played differently. Once you've sold a game - it isn't yours anymore. All the recent changes destroying the game for long-time players are not okay.
If only that were the case, but in reality even though you paid for the game you don't own it, you just own a license they can alter or even take away from you
I stopped reading at “I am not a 2b2t player” don’t speak on stuff you have no idea about 🤷♂️
The surprising thing is that the better changes got veto'd. You know there'll be a dupe immediately, and with the items already having no value, wtf is the point? Also fucking people over via trails > making the map actually new and exciting.
Wow! I had no idea it got a rollback! It looks like we get 1.19 with all the benefits and no downsides!
the new update is pretty cool. only downside is that 50% of hacked clients aren't supported anymore lmao. (unless you want your striders to be magma cubes with a name tag that makes zombie sounds. yes this actually happens.)
Using viafabric?
I'm an Impact user, and between this and another server I've got friends on coming back up hopefully, I've needed to try and find an alternative. Installing Meteor (It's the closest free client I can think of to Impact) is currently a pain as I'm not a good Fabric mod user
Security!
@@buizelmeme6288Server is probably running ViaVersion which is the same thing for Folia/Paper
the situation is (mostly) over, SalC1 withdrew and the strikers got what they wanted removed from the update. Anything past this is probably gonna fade away
Lmao the one added rule is "no bullying" and as such "It's not anarchy anymore". Bruh, 2b2t is something uh
i really do think it's a good update. not only does it make 2b2t more inviting without making it too inviting so that it doesnt just become a vanilla server, it also alienates the older 2b2t members, so that they stop playing 2b2t and maybe have a chance to go outside again.
truly a win-win scenario.
100% sounds like everyone didn't want the server to be as hard as it was intended to be and used monetary coercion to get their easy life back. A lot of what made the server easy were outright glitches simply being fixed. I can't really blame the owner for caving, though. At some point you can't have a server at all if that's how people are going to behave. Hosting ain't free. Great shame cause it sounds like, had people gotten used to it, it would have injected life in to the server again. What's the point of all the history of the server laying around with no one to play on it? Ridiculous.
I worry this will create an even worse disaster in the future, too. Now they can get what they want by just flashing their credit cards. That's not going to be something that works out for the best. But the community brought it on themselves.
2b2t players throwing a temper tantrum bc the server was objectively improved will never not be hilarious
bum
Objectively improved?
More like objectively trashed
Fit MC is probably playing on the newest anarchy server in Minecraft now
Yes and it's name is QSMP
THE NEWEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT
The new chunk logic , and the anti cheat measures were actually pretty good changes . The rest of them I understand how the players can be upset .
End of the day money would have been a factor that forced Hause to respond. Servers cost money and if people protest with their wallets change will inevitably happen.
However I don't think this will be players 'controlling' Hause, rather I think (and hope) this will be a lesson for Hause. If this was just a simple F2P server then yeah sweeping changes would have gone in fine with no issues but when people pay money for a service you need to be transparent when changes are coming.
I can understand removing blocks and items. Every item adds data to the server and to many items can bog it down, however on a server like this its a bit hard to remove any items.
i love how all the people are raging cause the Owner updated his server. I personally would of never rolled back or anything, I'd of just updated to 1.19 and said 'don't like it, then too fucking bad".
Hause only reneged after his livelihood was in jeopardy. Just shows what really controls 2b2t, the Almighty Dollar.
props to Hausemaster for being the bigger man, he just wanted to give the server a fresh breath of air and make it more fun. but it backlashed and he listened. i salute you, Hausemaster
I still physically cringe at seeing 2b2t in any public light, including this video. I had my time there, it got flooded by children, and I'll be glad when it's fully gone. Good riddance
For those mad at 2b2t's server owners over these changes, blame Mojang/Microshaft for their recent Orwellian EULA changes which basically outlawed 2b2t in it's intended form with extreme prejudice.
It was either 2b2t become something else entirely or be shut down forever.
The trouble wasn’t exclusive to the 2b2t playerbase, but to all anarchy players. Everyone had to deal with the influx of children begging for kits, only for them to retreat to 2b shortly after-not to mention the unbearable lag they brought.
This is unfortunate. Housemaster should've audited these major changes with his community, made the necessary compromises and implemented them over the span of a few years...
It's an ugly stain of an already bad record as a community manager
Hause forgot how bad he needed those priority queue sheckles and the 2b2t players reminded him of that 🤣
honestly I don't think he did it out of any ill will he just wanted to update the server to 1.19 but he just updated the server in a way that wasn't satisfactory to the player base cause like most of the changes he made was to reduce the lag and stuff honestly I think what should've happened was more communication between him and the player base to set some compromises for the player base.
Hausenberg needed all the shmeckles
@@_sansvisage he did it because of Ill intend cause I said so
i think in the end it worked out for the best, and im glad the owner listened to the community. id been waiting til 1.19 to rejoin the server, and now its good to be back
Frankly, most of the changes seemed completely reasonable.
tbh, I understand why hausemaster implemented the rules. Its not up to him, but mojang. If he doesn't at least appear to be cognizant of the eula agreement, he could have his account and server removed
We would all absolutely love for 2b2t to update to the newest version, however, we don't want unnecessary, banal, and stodgy rules to be introduced and enforced, we would just like the update.
As someone who workd with server management almost every single change here was made because of limitations of the upgrade and foila
Wow holy shit I'm on the vote part, 2b2t is dead, it is not maintainable anymore. Its only limited by housemaster finding something better to do
I still don't think I can ever get over the irony of an anarchy server having things like rules and anti-cheat.
2b2t has always had an anti-cheat lol
2b2t is not and never was an "anarchy server." It's a vanilla server with no formalized rules. "Anarchy server" is a designation given to servers inspired by the environment this fostered.
It took Leo Tolstoy six years to write "War & Peace".
I'm fairly confident housemaster is no longer in control of the server and he sold it. The removal of greentext is the biggest giveaway, a 4chan oldfag would never remove it.
Great video Vincent, I really like how you waited to give a more objective and factual observation of the new changes instead of throwing together multiple quick videos while all this was happening.
I really wonder where fit is at though… what was the clip at 12:25 from? Is that from a recent stream? Anyways great video.
It's from FitMC on Twitch - QSMP Day 160 ~1:53:09
yeah seemingly playing quackitys new SMP server and hasn't been involved with 2b2t as much, we shall see the future
"This is no longer anarchy"
*Words written on this servers tombstone.*
2:55 lego piece death how does one acquire this
whats that map glitch called at 5:03
9:22 holy crap wth even are these glitches ive never seen this before ?
They fleeced the hell out of people that came back to 2b2t and paid for priority queue just to log on and find out it’s no longer an anarchy server.
wooo! Vincent documentary finally dropped!
this should be extremely intresting cant wait to see what the crazy tb2t players do even with the bad apdate
I find it a bit funny that anarchy server players of all things, expected the server owner to maintain and enforce anarchy like it's a rule to be enforced.
i find it funny that people were up in arms with actual rules being a thing. its disgusting, really, and the people up in arms are exactly the kind of people thats not welcome online.
@@matthewbarabas3052 This is a reddit comment.
Another update: "it's anarchy for hausmaster too so he set up very strict rules"
Finally news from 2b2t
From all the changes I am in favour of the anti-x-ray. It will force players to either work harder or to discover new creative ways to find ores. When I get to this server I will definitely have hard time finding anything, but it's 2b2t, so players with knowledge of some hacks should be the ones that win.
But I am definitely opposed to undoing previous progress, as cheating is totally legitimate way to gather resources on this server. Patching the bugs is OK, but punishing the players that found them first is definitely not.
Dude hosts the longest running server. Let's players have complete freedom even sell items out of game. People still complain
I find it wild af! That people would loose their shit for changes as minor as the ones listed on this video
While the owner and the community both had fair points, I believe the crucial mistake was the immediate changes applied to the server without consulting the community.
Like Chat Report. Applied without the opinion of the people. You remember the back clash.
I believe rules and changes should have been brought to the players as a Poll, like the owner did for the final fate of the server rollback.
It's due to Minecraft's EULA.
@@MaoRatto more like 1984
Hause really said “ugh, fine, I guess you are my little golden goose”
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Really its smart for house to listen to the community. There are two definitions of anarchy no rules which would mean a unplayable server full of lag machines and just can’t be or no rulers and would have community based decisions. If you have rules and house being a dictator you aren’t anarchy by any definition.
as a regular const player I think the whole 2b2t was used to the luxuries of a broken economy is VERY true. const's economy is much more scarce than 2b2t's and I'll tell you right now it is very riveting having to think before entering combat with mobs and with players. I was shocked finding out that most of the folks on const were pretty against the 2b2t changes. (barring the huge influx of 2b2t players)
i hope they get rid of global death messages that was one of the good changes
Even though harsher changes new players are eliminated as people wont want to go through the trouble of downloading a specific version of Minecraft just to play 2b2t
2b2t wouldn't have survived a FitMC response video
I knew this would happen when mojang announced chat reporting.
Hope this doesn't ruin updates going forward, this ordeal might mean 2B2T will be stuck on 1.12 forever. It didn't sound all bad with the changes, chunk regeneration sounded good, there's literally nothing there so who cares? Plus, modern mechanics like swimming, heck yes. Only really bad was the economy update, removing totems and crystals, ouch. I think that was what set people off, by the time Hause stepped in to offer an undo, they wanted to make it hurt by restoring the chunks too. Maybe if they cooled down, they'd reconsider regenerating chunks.
housemaster: "I still consider it anarchy, but....."
As a normal player I don't really have any idea about 2b2t's things but personally i think housemaster has left the community almost intact for many years and even if what he did was pretty harsh and fast he still deserves to have some say and yet as it's said money does rule most of things and he probably realized that at this point rather than him the community rules the server
I'm seriously surprised Hause hasn't just scrapped the server yet, since he has many times said that he doesn't enjoy maintaining or moderating the server and threatened that if the donations don't exceed $1000 any month he would just close the server.
it was crazy he allowed the world to be so big i wish he put in a limit it would have limited the size and all
Hausmaster is the Hellen Keller of reading the room
Very well worded and documented, good stuff
Thanks
really shows how conservative fanbase can ruin a pretty good update
most of these changes are actually good
like mobs spawning, removing unused chunks so new terrain can generate and the server takes up less space, no phantoms
enforcing the rules (even though the rules were always there) and resetting economy are kinda a mixed bag which should've been discussed with a fanbase before updating
still, i think it's better than letting the server stagnate in never-changing meta and HUGE world of basically pre-alpha terrain
Wait he rolled it back? wow, after all this time, i might play again
The "rules" for an anarchy server should be the bare minimum, with "rules" only being established or enforced when, should they not, the server becomes unplayable.
I think the rules are a legal thing, it is 2b after all, but I don’t think they actually care. They just don’t want to get sued
Imagine getting upset that your cheats in an extremely easy game were removed, and crying like a child. Also, I would think chunk culling would be welcomed, since like 80% of the map within a large travel distance were already generated, and no chunk culling largely negates benefit of updating.
i cant but completely agree with housemaster about the chunk trimming
salc1 is the most dramatic 40 year old ever, they explicitly said chunks with builds on them wouldnt be affected
the server endured years of chunk loading related exploits so there is terrain that was never touched and never will be, trimming those off would make the new blocks easier to obtain get more of those funny terrain generation borders which i personally enjoy since they show the age of the server
there was a boom with the elytra where players would just randomly fly around to make the world bigger on purpose
and yes haha its funy we break the server hehe, but the file went from gigas to teras in just a few weeks, thats thousands of dollars needed to keep unused files
i dont think its wrong to look for ways to improve the gameplay on the server and its sustainability
But change bad!!!!!
Salc1 is a man child bet he still lives with his parents
unrolling chunk trimming means server maintenance cost remains high. consequences:
- if amount of priority queue players drastically goes down - server may become unprofitable. what will hause do in such case?
- if priority queue players group up again and demand some stupid feature just to fun, like weddings, hause will listen to them again?
Gemmy music used in this video, especially Space Storm Galaxy.
I still can’t believe he thought this was a good idea.. but at least he is gonna revert it all.. thankfully. Oh and great video btw! Love the Mario galaxy music as well 😅
Maybe changing to 1.19 would be a good idea erasing untouched chunks, that way you have the best of both worlds allowing old chunks to spawn with the new engine
there's no way shit's going to update ever now, which might not be a bad thing. If haus wants to continue their own interest in the game instead of retiring the server entirely in ten years when the fun stops again he should make a new anarchy server with his update specifications. New revenue stream, new arena to fill with new precedent
The server is on 1.19 and from what the website said, he will update to later versions as well
@@fastvincent1 oh crud, so is it just an amended update now or did I mishear something from the video?
@@ninjatakes4321maybe roll back to preupdate, and then update again the way people wanted
@@ninjatakes4321
Basically the server was reverted to the first day of 1.19 but without the economy reset and chunk culling
Nobody can tell me that is the real haus trying to make some of these changes. Feels weird when ppl talk about haus they actually believe its really him.
Hausemaster shouldn't've backed down and should have kept going
If 2B2T gets taken down, it should go out as itself. I hope House realizes that.
IV heard housemaster sold the server to another 3rd party