Well said by CJI, Article 370 hearing
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- Well said by CJI, Article 370 hearing
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It good to see CJI has on the back of his mind understood that peace finally prevailed in J&K
Come to jammu and ask people.. media mein toh acha dikhta hai... hum jammu wale bjp ko vote deke ro rahe hai
@@LibraryloversSirf J&K m kyu, poore India k harr state m log ro rhe hain. Toh kya kare sabko alag karde? Sabko ek alag constitution de de ? Mtlb kuchh bhi
@@keshavjha5091
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you are a super idiot @supratimnag7844 ... CJI is doing his work according to the constitution...one of the most important responsibilities of sc is to settle disputes between state and union. j&k is an ut with a legislature like delhi.
@@civilmind1589stop misleading people.
His final words are precious ‘sovereignty was ceded to the union’. Basically he is saying, the state can’t be ABOVE the union when it comes to borders or otherwise.
End of story.
True
Sahi hai, pants ke upar janghiya nahi pahan sakte except in fantasy 😂
"completely" being the operative word
@@SoumyaSarkar Kapil Sibal including his full funded whole team would be bowled out in front of the whole stadium! 🇮🇳
Both articles 370 and 35A were unconstitutional 'ab initio' because both these provisions introduced into the Constitution were secessionist laws. Only one thing is ultimate in India that "Nothing, here means 'nothing' in this Universe can challenge or threaten the Safety & Integrity of India. In any Situation or Condition the Parliament of India Does not/Cannot Cede (surrender) its powers (right to maintain/ensure the Safety & Integrity of our country India, by any means/methods) to any entity in this Universe" FULL STOP! 🤔🇮🇳
This whole hearing is a useless.
The decision has been made, everyone will come to terms with it because that is how it should have been in the 1st place. Abrogation of this law just made people of J&K ‘normal’ like anyone else in India. The sad part of this is the passage of this law that made the people of this state ‘special’.
That specialness has resulted in the mess we see today for the last 50 years.
Thank you Modi. Time to move on to UCC, 2-child policy, NPR, ban on burqa/hijab, elimination of waqf board and minorities commission, removal of the word ‘minorities’ from constitution and so much more….
How can they be standing there and not feel ashamed? this is so basic. it was "Temporary".
Vested want it Permanently
Haha😂 you will tell us what the interpretation should be, I bet you don't know your elbow from your backside.
It's just so simple, right?
@@IndianArma bhai you are in a good hand. Imagine you being a completely separate country how could you manage your economy. Khane k vandhe ho jayenge aur wo us paar se jo hamle hoge wo alag. Don’t you realise all this or are you being paid for all this propaganda?
@@NishaChauhan-cl9hd bhen I am not kashmiri.
Beig from the KASHMIR valley, i agree with cji. Federalism should never exceeds sovereignty.
May allah bless hum. We are Indian muslims, and will always remain Indians
Are there any hindus left in valley?
@@woozie1637Terrorists drove them away. We can't simply blame the common men of the valley.
@@sudhakar7889 who is the terrorists working for and which religion they belong to why didn't they hunt down their ummah brother's. Who is the common man who knows which white cap and black tent will go boom ola hu Uber 💥💥. Did they stop terrorists , no and are you asking why their group members kelled hindus and they supported, no you are asking me not to blame the benifiters of genocide who are happy inside. Who are you are you the direct descendant of stupid FK Ghandhi who don't realise how brainwashed his hindus become.
Those are the actual words ; Sovereignty is the matter which is completely ceded to the union❤
Sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity should always be maintained and it can go above federalism 👍🙏🇮🇳
True, and 370 has nothing to do with sovereignty. Is Nagaland not part of India, they also have state constitution?
@@deepakkumarjoshiNagaland don't have separate constitution but have some extra rights under 371
@@pranjalsoni1743very nice brother
Nation comes first and rest comes next.
@@Winalimpandits comes first
I respect present CJI for his beautiful Judgements. I feel proud his Personality.
The CJI did a great job in countering the arguments with valid points. ❤
No Kapil Sibal to confuse the bench, then all of a sudden: BOOM !
_"one thing is very clear: _*_sovereignty was ceded completely to the union of India_*_ "_
Chomu ceded hota hai
@@rizwandar8025aagaya katwa
@@rizwandar8025 Are you kashmiri shia muslim?
@@onlynationalist no
@@onlynationalisteverything is not about Hindu Muslim. The most ant India people see things this way. Are you a chomu?
Lawyer - I have been paid to let J&K slip back into turmoil again.
Judge - Dude, am not letting that happen - whatsoever 😊
PERIOD!!!
These people are wasting time. This petition should have been dismissed it away and it should have declared that 370 is gone for ever. What is good for our country cannot be debated. The discussion we find is mostly on procedural matters
Bro discussion is good. After this discussion, the matter of 370 is officially dead. Any party bringjng it up in future will become anti national
Great answer by cji sir g Salute
Parliament is Supreme in making law. States can not supersede the power of the Parliament.
Can parliament make Uttar Pradesh a union territory? 😂 States also have right, they are not slaves.
@@deepakkumarjoshiyes under article 3 up can be made a ut..infact india is an indestructible union of destructible states.
😂😂😂😂 without kashmir...
@@deepakkumarjoshiwhy not? If you produce the bill and get majority in its support
At this point, these lawyers are just racking up consulting fees on hourly basis :)
Question is who are paying the fees. Expenses must be around 1 crore per day
No doubt they would get remuneration in different modes through NGOs. You understand which kind of NGOs?
😂😂
Result should come before 2024 election
@@onlynationalistSoros bootlickers. Good for the lawyer to rake in the dollars to our country 😂😂😂
How , How calmly Mr.cji was handling?
I expected a hammer 🔨 throw to the lawyers by
Mr.Cji.
Salute CJI scotching the overhead ordinances.
Best CJI in recent times
The Kapil sibal Lawyer saying that the concurrence of the Party is required. Means His Highness Raja of J & K has to come ? Bhool jao Kapilji . India and Indians have to decide . For that we have Parliament and elected Government with absolute Majority and a strong judicial system to protect that. Let wisdom prevail . Jai Hind.
@0:26 soveregnty wasnt ceded to the union of india .it was stolen ....as the accession treaty didnt sign away soveregnty ...but this treaty was rejected by the republic ..giving no protection.guarantee in return ..
That is theft ( of soveregnty not given to the union ) and fraud...upon the beneficiary of the treaty ie the people of the princley states ..
This is what we see in godhra, delhi riots, sikh riots in delhi , gangrape in godhra and manipur...people are not safe as they have no written giarantee from a state of protection ...and has thus a licence to commit fraud..
The CJI admits to this fraud
This fellows dances according to their Akka
people of jammu kashmir will decide their own future. not you ok. you are nobody to us
@@paapkishtwaermaiyya chodkr bhaiya paida kr degi Indian Army jyada chuu chaa kiya to😂😂
@@paapkishtwaer👍
CJI u have good understanding of the law.
If u stop being woke and be India at heart, you will make a lave good Legacy like your father.
Kapil chibal will even twist this by saying we know 1 is not equal 2, but untill and unless 2 says he is not equal to 1,we have to consider 1 is equal to 2,one side maths teacher says 1 is not equal to 2 listen to me but chibal will say no i will not agree because 70 years ago we agreed in our school that 1 is equal to 2,so we have to believe it untill unless 2 says I am not equal to 1😂😂
This belief system built up by family run khangress who wants them to believe Gandhi's instead of Firoz Khan's ancestors and on top Brahmin . Only slaves can accept such analogy
🤣🤣🤣
Only Kabil Sibal will understand this.
thats so accurate🤣🤣
1 is not equal to zero. 2 is also not equal to zero.
So, as per article KS-1.2, 1 = 2.
That's all my lord.
Nail in the head by CJI H' Chandrachud. Soverinty is complete in cas of J&k
Lawyer - This is the constitutional law.
Judge - Read the law again in front of me and tell me what you didn't understand.😂
The core question whether a state came to GOI with the appeal to save the state from invading army of pakistan and then signing the accession to India which sacrificed the lives of jawans can impose special privilege of 370 and impose 35A to GOI is wholly untenable. That the accession of whole state J & K even after 75 years still remain unfulfilled. The seeker ( J&K ) can't have special privilege after so much sacrifice GOI had to endure . That is gross injustice to all other states willing signed the form of accession.
Very good discussion.Let us wait and watch till the end of hearing
Great CJI 🎉 Congradulatioms 🎉
Unfortunately all the councils for petitioner have vested interests but not the national interest, splicing the constitution to bits & pieces. J&K is absolutely peaceful now. The attempt is to reverse it.
Who is paying for this. Crores of Rupees??
@@birajaprasadmohanty2159 Anti indian congress..
Once a law is enacted in the parliment it can not be reversed but can only be amended?
@@birajaprasadmohanty2159 Exchequer
Congress, due to election going to conduct next year, congress want to derail the peace in Kashmir, to gain political interest.
That argument of Art. 252 is a great point
@0:26 soveregnty wasnt ceded to the union of india .it was stolen ....as the accession treaty didnt sign away soveregnty ...but this treaty was rejected by the republic ..giving no protection.guarantee in return ..
That is theft ( of soveregnty not given to the union ) and fraud...upon the beneficiary of the treaty ie the people of the princley states ..
This is what we see in godhra, delhi riots, sikh riots in delhi , gangrape in godhra and manipur...people are not safe as they have no written giarantee from a state of protection ...and has thus a licence to commit fraud..
The CJI admits to this fraud
Good to see CJI's stand on the matter. It should never come back
CJI wasn't prepared for Kapil Sibal but now he seems to have done his homework and come prepared
Nope sibal was just loud and aggressive that's all his points don't stand
@0:26 soveregnty wasnt ceded to the union of india .it was stolen ....as the accession treaty didnt sign away soveregnty ...but this treaty was rejected by the republic ..giving no protection.guarantee in return ..
That is theft ( of soveregnty not given to the union ) and fraud...upon the beneficiary of the treaty ie the people of the princley states ..
This is what we see in godhra, delhi riots, sikh riots in delhi , gangrape in godhra and manipur...people are not safe as they have no written giarantee from a state of protection ...and has thus a licence to commit fraud..
The CJI admits to this fraud
Kapil Sibal is boisterous and his clients too.
Nice explanation of CJI
What is this lawyer saying.. if state has precedence over the Government of India.. what will happen to the country???
If Parliament cannot make Laws for the Nation what then can it do ??? Appeal to the Ego of some Lawyers and take their Concurrence .... Would lawyers ever agree to anything ??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
CJI is smart. Outsmarted oversmart lawyers.
Kudos to🙏 the CJI.
There are too many Indians who do not like a big powerful united Bharat .
Honorable CJI knowledge is unbeatable, we have proudly Says "he is a man for centuries"
Thanks for these arguments
Very well to Hygienic judgement for 370,and to save India by the people's Democracy. God provided your idealige to move 🙏 right ✅ way. Amen ♥.
Soverignity and ambedkarsindian constitution and basicstructure if constitution is more important now and not modijis constitution
as i have said before, those opposing 370's abrogation dont have problem with abrogation perse, but rather with the fact that modi abrogated it....had congress did it(hypotheticallt ofcourse....they wont antagonise their muslim votebanks ever), very same people would be singing paeans for congress....🤣🤣
Where is kapil chibal the modern jaychand.
THIS CJI IS PUBLICITY HUNGRY. NOT INTERESTED IN ENFORCING JUDGES ACCOUNTABILITY!
Why CJI is taking intetest in this matter. He should throw thid case out as there sre many casrs outstanding for years. I have k own some cases are 40 yeats old and hasn"t hearing. So its whom you know. Pappu had his hearing within weeks. Shame on our SC system.
India is first
State under union of India
India is one indian laws must be equal to all States.
We cannot understand why the court has accepted the pitition for hearing. It's matter of country,'s interest. J&K joined India after independence and that is final.
Fudamental of Accesion was conditional dude. J & K will stay as an independent Territory with Defence, Finance and Foreign affairs be dealt by the host nation. Rest it was upto the people of Jammu kashmir to decide through plebicite.
I am very glad to see how CJI knows removal of article 370 actually completes the union process of Bharat as one country. And any disturbance would then allow other state break india forces to start murmuring.
All laws should be as per the national integrity . If no such laws are not there . those should be made. Abrogation of article is in favour of nation. In name of construction permission it should not be restored again.
Good decision by CJI.
The petitioner and his lawyers must not forget that unification of sovereignty at some stage now the present stage cannot be ignored and procrastinated under a pretentious smoke screen of state concurrence ! What do they mean by state concurrence when the very sustenance of state and its maintainence is by the government treasure for 76 years . The state cannot be treated as a royal princely manner starving other 29 states slogging to support it.
Salute Sir ..godblessu Ur Honor
I think all the article/Law should be feed into IndiaGPT using LLM . Courts will immensily benefit during these debates.
Bad idea, bots are biased af, can't use em for serious matters like in courts where one mistake can cost lives. LLMs are probabilistic, we need determinstic AI for courts which can be done with simple rules based classic logic, no need to go for fancy models like LLMs.
…and one day a smart hacker will extract biased outcome once the system starts fully using it
It can definitely help the judges, and speed up the process but LLMs on their own can be very unpredictable and biased. So with human supervision it can act as an advisor to the judges and Lawers.
@@atishbhattacharya3473 exactly but a normal deterministic software will definitely help. Whole constitution infact is predicate logic based which can be encoded in a computer program I believe. There are already research papers on this, only problem is interpretation part.
@archerverse13 then according to u
The whole world is investing in Advancing as well as implementing latest AI ,Machine learning
LLM ,
BLOCK CHAIN TECHNOLOGY
ECT ARE ALL FANCY
And these western companies
Some of them r investing
In double digit billions of US Dollars
So they r all stupid
SINCE THESE R PROBABLISTIC
SO THEY MAY TAKE ERRONEOUS
DESCISION
?.
INC backed petitioners talking of Referendum in Jammu& Kashmir, Sovereignty of Jammu&Kashmir.
What has this Party turned into fgs.
Article 370 is a TEMPORARY provision of Constitution of India and it is a matter of Indian Constitution not the Constitution of JK and entire part of Indian Constitution (excluding Basic Structure) is amendable following due amendment procedure of Parliament, as such, Article 370 may also be amended.
His all decisions are excellent 👍👍👍 he is better than today whole Govt
Well
If any agreement, identity of any community either challenges the sovereignty of India or does not allow the sovereignty to take decision for the betterment of the larger section of the society then that agreement will cease to continue and that community will be taught to become Indian.
some judges keep cherry picking by their interpretation is really not conducive for healthy delivery of justice which keep getting delayed.CJI rightly clarified the apt posn crystal clear,is comprehended easily by commoners even.
Its right to apply 370 article back for sovereignty of the valley
Post 1947, when Pakistanis & Tribals were banging J&K left & Right & Srinagar was to be lost to raiders, It had two options be sovereign & Get Banged up by Raiders or be with India, let go of Sovereignty & Save your people.
Once you are Saved, now you want Sovereignty. Shame on These So Called Lawyers advocating for reinstating of Article 370.
Good discussion ❤
Definitely well said Sir, CJI
When they agreement between india and JK is on only three issues, foreign affairs, communication, and defense. Then how can a parliament redefine the matter related to sovereignty without the Concurrence of state legislature?
CJI completely flattened anti *********
Even if case fails they are paid in crores... By showing their faces we all came to know who are against and who are in favour...
The CJI is a rational person, not influenced by political ideologies and their subsequent policies
Simple, there can not be two sovereign in one boundary.
Final will be
Removal method was illegal but.........
Extension of ED chief was illegal but........
What happened in maha is illegal but........
Same as previous rulings.
Zaffar sahab the great....
The way Vikas Divyakirti sir explained cleared this issue long back.
Already removed. State has moved on. Waste of time legal hearing. Too late.
Good
When accession happened in 1947 with India was unconditional and 370 was not there at that time.
Seeing the current J&K situation, peace and prosperity, why these opposition buggers are opposing abbrogtion of article 370, just for there personal interest
Sir u have given us a very important lesson .."that arm ur argument with rationale,logic,reason,and intellect and know ur text and u r invincibilly just "thanku sir I learnt a valuable lesson ..godblessu Sir
Where these people has gone when AP was separated.
These big people where they are?
CJI is a sensible nationalist who is driven to serve citizens of India within the purview of the constitution. My prediction is this verdict will go in favour of BJP government but he will urge to conduct elections soon.
What a waste of money and time
This became a issue of union of India sovereignty vs article 370.
Now we are thinking supreme court is emeni of nation why not country interest first?
Long live mr Chandrachud ❤️❤️❤️
The true saviour of this beautiful country
Honourable CJI Sir,
One should have guts for removing the article 370. It was done. Kindly dont entertain to reverse that. I request you to clear the path to get even POK. With Regards...
Law makers of parliment who are the will of countrymen are the one who decide about artical 370, not through courts or lawyers.
Well I mean it was a petition law is already cemented it's a petition to undo it
What's going on in SC, when the matter was already settled in parliament. Parliament is the supreme body and court has no power to revoke the law and if there is any ambiguity in implementation, court can suggest measures without hampering the spirit of the law for parliment attention. Validity of the law in the light of constitution should not be questioned by the S.C.
I am just wondering what would be the State of India if Sibal is the CJI
I also thought like that yesterday if Kapil Sibel were CJ and the case before him. I did yoga for an hour and prayed almighty such thoughts do not come to my mind.
Ha ha ha....its very simple . what india was before 1947 , the same will b d fate of india
The horror..
If only Sibbal was CJI, INDIA have had only slaves of " The dynasty
SIBBAL would have slave leader.
I was there in chief court ....arguments from both side were excellent
I don't see any videos for the supporting side. Were they not recorded?
@0:26 soveregnty wasnt ceded to the union of india .it was stolen ....as the accession treaty didnt sign away soveregnty ...but this treaty was rejected by the republic ..giving no protection.guarantee in return ..
That is theft ( of soveregnty not given to the union ) and fraud...upon the beneficiary of the treaty ie the people of the princley states ..
This is what we see in godhra, delhi riots, sikh riots in delhi , gangrape in godhra and manipur...people are not safe as they have no written giarantee from a state of protection ...and has thus a licence to commit fraud..
The CJI admits to this fraud
Why the constiturnt assembly of j&k didn't clear its stand on article 370 making it permanent. The assembly ceased to exist keeping article 370 temporary.
India is a union of state and federal in nature....
Modi has done enough to make it centralised.
Court should finally declare that no more petitions are welcome by any means and everything is scrapped !
Yeah we are not federal country. His last words summarises everything. Only union government is sovereign not state govt.
Moreover, all the people must settle down in Kashmir so that Muftis and Abdullahs will keep quite. Kashmir does not belong to Kashmiris alone. It is integral part of India and anyone can settle there.
I just Studied Polity for State PSC but I feel like I have more understanding then these Lawyers arguments.
Yes pl cji hand it over
कोर्ट अभी भी अंग्रेजी से मुक्त नहीं हो पाए हैं।
English main explanation jyada asan hota Hain dusro ko samjana Hindi main jyada bolna padata hain jaise ki tuze samjana 😅 #modibhakt
What does he mean Kashmir was never an integral part of India this man is a villian !!
Waste of time
Waste of time
Waste of time
This could have argued 2019 ,
Why now? Ias officer withdrew his
Petition every way kashmir developing it's economy tourism
Kids going regular schools and colleges life is much better than
Past years
CJI and infact all participants forget that the State was independent of British suzerainty even before India was granted independence. The Instrument of Accession is thus a Treaty, and any change in the relationship has to be by mutual agreement and not unilateral
What should not be lost is the will of the people.
The soul of any amalgamation is joining of hearts
One can play with words ad infinitum
Of steam rolling agendas we want no part
Will of the people? No where in history of human kind has this been etched permanently.
@@bindra1731
In the transient world nothing is permanent but God's will
Faith moves mountains and those who just wont sit still
It's the stay at home sons of the soil
Who let the world pass them by
But a true seeker is not confined to narrow spaces
Will find a way to maks wings and will fly
CJI is right
Ram Ram
When the parliament abrogated law 420 and joined Kashmir with India, why the Indian judiciary thr Supreme Court is discussing this issue, is it not correct to join Kashmir with the mainstream India? I do not understand the Indian judiciary?
Ramadoss
When the abrogation of article 370 had become a law after the President 's sig what is the need of accepting the challenging petition by our SC and prolonging the hearing for so many days? Is it only for benifitting the traitor Kapil Sibbal?
Five judges are engaged in technical aspects for fortnight. Later deliberation on Delhi Service Act will take place & so on. Meanwhile high profile case like bail to Teesta, Rahul will be heard. It is high time seprate appointment be made for exclusive dedicated bench shall be prescribed for such cases. In one day, a judge may dispose 50 cases also. Public has lost faith on judiciary. More than 3 cr cases are pending for +10 yrs.