Maybe its cause he wants to show the best accelerations, due to the weight of the cars, if he would have full tank, the cars would be more heavy and less acceleration capable..if you know what i mean😄
The difference is, the diesel is always equally fast. If you shift up at 3000 rpm and just drive normally, it's as fast as it's gonna get. The petrol needs to be revved to redline if you want it to be as fast as it can be. That's why the diesel feels faster and is faster in everyday driving, and far more effortless to go fast in. 320d feels like it has at least 50-60hp more than 320i. Petrol can only keep up with diesel when you redline it and full throttle it and look like you're insane making a lot of noise. Diesel is just fast by default, no extra effort needed.
Nah, because diesel engine without turbo is weak. That feeling you are having that it is 50 hp more in diesel is just because you have turbo. If you have diesel without turbo you are gonna see. And even without turbo in petrol car in this video its pretty close. If 320i had turbo like it has nowdays.... Turbo is super important because of torque.
Its not equally fast, it just feels faster because you got huge torque in low revs. If you rev the engine out, a equal Petrol engine (lets say 335d and 335i) is faster on paper
@@enfantterrible4868 true, you get more torque with diesel but with petrol you get more horsepower per litre. Torque is important but its a tricky thing, you feel like you are going fast but you arent so fast as you think. Bmw 320i e90 without turbo is 170hp and f30 320i has a turbo and it has only 15 horsepower more, because they want diesel and petrol to be close in performance. If they put sam settings on both,petrol is much faster.
@@gigel99324 320i is 6, m54b22, or m52(tu)b20. 320d is 4. The only 6 cylinder diesel is the 330d. But you can easily hear that the petrol is a i6 without looking at any numbers
From 120km/h it’s clearly petrol territory. But actually impressive how close the 320 models were. And what’s almost more interesting how much less the Diesel sipped during the acceleration, the Petrol always was on the upper limit while the Diesel needle was more often in the upper quarter (especially at the end)
That is the point tho. Petrol engines get more torque in upper revs, which is why they dominate in racing. Diesel engines got lots of torque in the lower revs, which is why most trucks/haulers go diesel.
@@lukemeh1783 Ok thank you for that. Even more impressive for the petrol without the turbo then. I got a 2019 2 litre petrol turbo in my 430i, the 420d i think got a 2 litre diesel. So for the f32 both petrol and diesel has 2 litre turbo, 180 something hp for the diesel, 252hp for the petrol version.
Stock cars, maybe. But with a very cheap modification, you can remove the DPF of the diesel, remap the CPU and gain 10-20% increase in performance right away while still keeping the car as reliable as stock. While on benzin fuel, you can't practically do nothing cheap to increase performance. And the diesel will run faster, have more torque low and mid range revs, and consume almost half as much fuel. So, no real debate in my mind. BTW I drive X3 3.5sd mapped to around 330 hp. Beating almost everything from traffic light to traffic light on street asphalt - less grippy I mean.
@@wildyracing1 there is always that one guy... "Oh my diesel is fAsTeR". Cool We talking stock cars. Diesel will be quicker off the line, but slower as speed increases. I prefer High end power than low end torque in sports car. Diesel is great to daily and to race someone from lights to lights once a while. I really don't care about economy, how much torque you got etc. I honestly don't wanna hear again about how diesel is better, because u think it is. Drove it, never liked it as much as petrol no matter what power /torque. You like diesel, that's FINE, but I don't give a fuck. I like my gasoline. And if diesel would be N/a there wouldn't be an easy way to increase performance. Diesel is ez to add power just because they all turbo. If petrol is boosted stock, it can easily be tuned to 20%+ power increase too.
" Very cheap modification" Swap with 2JZ :) Whatever you do, petrol engine is always faster because of its nature. Yes you can travel with diesel engine like a 19th century train.
Diesel are great for daily driving. you can go from point A to point B cheap and yes you can play a bit between traffic lights.but if you want power and some more fun then petrol engines are a must
It's kind of the opposite. Diesel engines are slower at acceleration but they have much more NM (brute power) than petrol engines. What i mean is diesels can carry more and heavier stuff with ease. Petrol engines are just fun to drive and that's all to it. Also, diesel engines are. Much more heavier than the petrol ones. Thus, petrol engines are much more suitable for driving in the city, especially in the crowded ones and the diesel engines are more suitable for driving on the highway or driving from a city to another.
@@stefaneduard8169 yes diesel engines are heavier but as you say because the have much more torque than a petrol engine their bigger mass is not a problem for pulling off of lights.moreover with diesel engines you can achieve higher mpg's which is usefull for city driving.when you are on the highway petrol engines are better because there is less engine noise
@@alexandrosbouris9587 It's the complete opposite. Diesels are meant and built for large distance monotonous driving for the system to perform under optimal efficiency and to withhold ecological standarts. If you're driving quick short burst (city driving) with a diesel, be ready for it to gunk up reasonably quickly. Not only that but it also heats up slower that way and makes it less fuel efficient than a petrol that way.
Diesel is always weaker than petrol, diesel always needs a turbo to get the car's performance on petrol. Diesel always needs a turbo to achieve petrol performance!
320d 150hp 320i 170hp ... I count the diesel an overall winner. Well aware of the differences 11 years ago when I got my 3 series, I choosed diesel, I still would.
Only if u want slight lower consuption,if you want fun and adrenalin,all day petrol... You need to add that diesel is having a turbo,petrol dont,so yeah,overall winner for me is 320i
The 20d goes faster up till 100kmh , It's got speed and power where you need it the most , without too much fuss and with half the fuel consuption its the 20D for me all the way...nobody really cares about top end speed unless you do races regulary on autobahn.
@@KaufDirGeld Between me and my friend we had like 6 of the 2.0d and I don't know in what universe is that engine on 6.5l urban hahaha and the 320i i also know it 12-14l
Agreed 100% Diesel much quicker acceleration up to motorway speeds that's what counts off the line it's effortless and much more reliable and engine will last longer. PLUS gets nearly twice the mpg! ... It's a No Brainer Diesel is better hands down in all areas!
@@sinblago Nope. Sedan should mostly be heavier, since it has more parts than the coupe. If you check the weight of e46 sedans and coupes, sedans are between 1,285-1,655 kg and coupes are 1,285-1,555 kg. So highest spec sedan is a 100 kg heavier than a highest spec coupe. Other than that, they're pretty much the same weight.
@Mr330d of course 320d can reach 160kp/h but it is not about topspeed but acceleration and wide powerband which 2.0 r4 doesn't have in my point of view. for crusing down the autobahns 2.0d is too weak I would say.
Mr330D.. In most cases in ireland 160klph is too fast. But if am dtiving your 330D in lucan Bypass N4 up to celbridge i can whip it up to 200kph and over with no problem.. Had my e46 320d remapped years ago and it is really very limited car. Won't go over 200kph..
Torque can be converted in hp so there are two units of power when you compare a car performance those two need to be equal. In this case 20 hp more for the petrol but 100 nm more for the diesel , this comparation is pretty fair. You can’t say petrol has 20 hp more and forget about the diesel torque which is plenty over the petrol. Petrol cars are faster in any situation especially when they are turbocharged like the big v8’s and v10’s when they get a lot of torque due to turbocharging , there is no diesel around bcs they can get not nearlly as much hp as a petrol gets from a big engine.
Everyone saying "It should be more even, use the lower power petrol engine." I agree. We should also turbocharge the petrol engine. It will be even faster then top end than this one is, and can be just "StAgE 2" remapped as well, same as the diesel.
Diesel is not made for performance... All remaps and the turbo are added to make the car driveable... Now if you are such a bad driver that you want to compare yourself to a diesel engine and whine about them having stock turbos smaller than your PP.. Oh well dude you a sick kid
Diesel is always weaker than petrol, diesel always needs a turbo to get the car's performance on petrol. Diesel always needs a turbo to achieve petrol performance!
also diesel consumption is 2 times less than petrol and it have ovet 100 NM more than petrol. I don't say that one is better than other. It depend's what you want or what you need.
@@zapalony5312 Not really a 2 times better consumption in modern engines anymore. But there is still some. But they produce more NOx gases. But yes, as you said. Depends on your preffered use case.
@@dannulik Yes but i'm afraid modern engines would not stand 700k KM. Old petrol/ diesel engines are better because you can fix it and you don't have to spend 7-20k € on new engine. And ofcourse it depend's of how you ride, service and parts/ fuel quality. But 700k km to bmw should be nothing.
@@zapalony5312 Modern tracks do a lot more than 700k km. Old engines are to some extent easier to fix. But they are less powerfull and a lot less efficient. BMW were known to not be very reliable in the past decade (2000-2010). I would say that today most EU manufacturers are on par when it comes to engines (bad pieces from time to time).
yeah it does. I have E46 with petrol inline six engine approaching 300.000 km, still runs great and burns no oil. All cylinders have very good compression (tested)
torque band on diesel engines starts to drop on 3k and drops miserably over 4k, on lower gears you still take advantage of the big difference in ratio, but in higher gears you have to shift earlier to get maximum accaleration, it is a weak point of diesels (they can be easely tuned to increase performance and beat the petrol, but the hi rev band will always be disappointing, they shine elsewhere)
Diesel is always weaker than petrol, diesel always needs a turbo to get the car's performance on petrol. Diesel always needs a turbo to achieve petrol performance!
꧁NERO꧂ hold on your horses 😂 Normal petrol cars are pretty bad. My 3l twin turbo diesel at just stage one wipes e92 M3 so the petrol ones need turbos as well. They might catch up at top end but by then you long gone. Twins are different and you get all that performance with really good fuel consumption. Petrol it’s the king yes but in sports cars. Daily ones petrol ain’t worth it
V3N0M 640d. Направихме лек ремап само до 370кс и 700nm. Върнахме я от 389 да сме сигурни, че няма да имам грижи със скоростната кутия. На мен също ми се кара бензин но не виждам смисъл, освен ако не е мапнато М4. Карам си MV-то и май няма да се засилвам за м-ки, че ще ми дойдат в много разходите и няма да се справя 😂 Мотора и без това върви повече
First time I see LCI having a tacho like this, my, as do most LCI's have red line at 5k not 4,5 so this might not even be the 110kw one but the 100kw version...
@@MartijndeRondeDesigner And the RPM of the engine is not big difference? One can go up to 7k RPM and the other barely reach 5k RPM. And when you add vanos things change. If you check the car specs of the E46 models for example lets compare the 316i(116 Hp, 175 Nm) with 318D(115 Hp, 265 Nm).Both are 4 cylinder engines with almost the same HP. On paper the 318D should destroy the 316i because of the torgue but the 0-100 accelaration difference is 0.2(and diesel car is 75kg heavier) (according to auto-data.net). So the accelaration is pretty much the same of both cars despite of the torgue
E90 163hp - same engine as E46 320d, heavier car, still 7hp less than 320i. Same acceleration. Remap E46 to same hp as the 320i and he will blow it away.
the e90 bmw is a better comparison cause the 320i and 320d is both 4 cyl 2 litres, but there the diesel would certainly win, the petrol version is either 148 or 168 hp and diesel is 177 or 184.
You choke the gasoline at the end of the revolutions in diesel there is a different moment but you also have to pull it higher. I did not take this test fairly
Jefe pues ese diesel lo llevas quemado o no has querido pisarle la aguja de consumo no la tenias al 20l y el gasolina si yo temgo un e46 320d 136cv y sube mas rapido la aguja de velocidad un diesel no tiene nada que envidiarle a un gasolina y menos estos motores. Gracias
320d is really KILLED by stragulated exhaust, not to mention his turbine exductor measure about 36mm.. all exhaust gases have to leave engjne tru a hole of 36mm even at full load.. and also there's a wheel inside 😂 By the way, that 320d could be remapped in 30minutes and will humiliate hard way that 320i which can do nothing to improve so fast and cheap the performances :)
No matter how fast it is, the 320d sounds like crap and feels like an ordinary diesel. The 2.2 petrol six cylinder is quick enough (assuming it works with all 170 hp), makes a beautiful sound, and it feels great when driving. I'd still have a 320i, any day, any time
@@FStan-co8vv sounds as crap?! Maybe your one. If using proper camshafts, turbo, exhaust.. sounds waaay better than your asthmatic 2.0 n/a. My 1.9 DIESEL sounds right NOW better than your n/a in load, also push harder at (top) 6000rpm than your fuel engine 🤣 (i got dyno anyway). I suppose you do not refer how sounds at idle, because nobody care about (my exhaust sound waay better than your n/a 2.0 even at idle🤣). By the way.. it is uploaded here a movie with one diesel E90 build in my country by some guys from iasi.. it is 3.0, indeed.. but check to see how pushing a proper modified diesel and how sounds (CompleteCHIP youtube, that mate name is Dragos)
@@napraznicul No, it doesn't sound better than the petrol. Whatever car sounds better is entirely a matter of personal preference, and in my opinion, a petrol 6 cylinder has a much more pleasant sound frequency. If you prefer the sound of tractor rattle and bogged down farts, it's your personal opinion and you're entitled to it, no problem. But some of us have different tastes and we utterly hate that sound, and that's why me (and many others) still prefer the petrol six. Also, my 320i is a 2.2, not a 2.0 like you said. Do you think your 4 cylinder diesel sounds better than an "anemic" six cylinder M5 E34 ?
@@FStan-co8vv i don't give a fuck how sounds vs a stock S38, but is faster than that e34 🤣. As i said above.. if for you matter how sounds at iddle ("farts" and other stupid ideas.. by the way, those big block drag prepaired american motors with 2500-3000bhp sound the same- but is bad, isn't it? 😂.. only your 100bhp engine sounda good🤣) that mean you use the car in tre parking place only, so i wish you succes at shopping and be careful to not be late home.. your mother could become mad on you🤣🤣
@@napraznicul you think you're faster than an M5 S38 hahaha. That M5 can actually go fast with no modifications, and also while making a pleasant sound. And no, your diesel doesn't sound like a drag racing V8 AT ALL, not even at idle, let alone at revs, you must be deaf if you think it does. I never said ONLY my engine sounds good. Obviously, there are so many engines that sound good (like V8s, like the S38, etc etc) and many engines that sound better than mine. But not a 2.0 diesel with a loud exhaust that screams 5000 rpm like a dodged horse fart. I got a friend who owns a tuned 320cd (~200 HP) and even he admits my car sounds a lot better than his diesel hahahaha but that he wouldn't buy one because of the fuel consumption. And I don't have "100 bhp" either lmao. Stop being childish and accept not everyone likes the dreadful sound of a sport-piped tractor
@@mrpoopybutthole6314 exactly that was his point.They used the m54 with 170hp instead of the m52 with 150 hp. Both were used in the e46 so if you want to compare if diesel or petrol is faster you should use one with the same hp Personaly i found this better,because you can see that the 20hp less diesel can keep up until 100/120 km/h
Hows possible there is no other warning light showing up except DCS. Mine E46 2.0 LPG Bj2000 shows Handbrake,ABS, Engine, Water cooling, parking lights ect. May i should repair something after 350.000km
As said difference is in mpg you measure how much miles you go on a single gallon. While at L/100km it measures how much litres you expend to go 100 kilometres. In other words higher numbers are better for mpg, while lower numbers are better for L/100km.
th the difference in kilometeres on the dash i mean c'mon the diesel almost had 300k vs the other car just a bit more then half of the diesel version.165k kilometres
There is almost 120000k mileage difference between the 2 cars, even then the Diesel performed really well. Not really a fair test to be honest but thanks for sharing. Also why does it sounds like that you are speaking from the the toilet ?
@@fuckyourmom4305 maybe because power falls like a mf after 4200-4300 rpm dont know if it would make a difference (because power drops off but if you change gear early maybe you are to low in revs idk) but that was his point i think
@@assi2assi You make a valid point brother! Every car has a top torque limit and every driver should know that point and its there that you want to shift gears not earlier and definitely not latter! And thats why less and less manuals are being produced!
El problema no es que uno ande más que otro el problema es que el gasolina le pisas ella aguanta porque la presión de los inyectores es menor que la del diesel y el diesel tienes dos tipos el que tiene una bomba que mueve varios inyectores y el que tiene el famoso inyector-bomba que como se te rompa uno vale 1000 € y verdaderamente consumir si te vas a un 3500 centímetros cúbicos gasolina turbo y aún 3500 centímetros cúbicos diésel turbo el gasolina si es mismo modelo tiene más revoluciones y sueles tirar más el diésel rompe antes si le pisas
your diesel is broken, block the EGR open the engine take out all that gunk and put everthing togheter and it will go to 160 without a problem, after that it will go to 200 but more slowly
Agree! The 320d will always sound like shit, no matter what exhaust you put on it. The 6 cylinder diesel in the 330d sounds better, but still not as good as 6 cyl petrol
It's not a good test. Because the diesel car has got double km or miles than gasoline. The compression loss of the diesel car engine with almost 300k km has to be high...
@@Reculse Test it as much as you want and floor the pedal to the asphalt but don't expect it to go 5k rpm after 120kmh. Diesel is good at launch cus of the torque but after that its a straight downhill. And i can assure you that if the petrol was turbocharged, not even a 330d would stand a chance!
Pogledaj u zadnjem test lik ubaci u 5 brzi u pri 3000 okretaja normalno da ce biti sporijii, gledaj benzinca zabio kazaljku od goriva hoce da probije a kod dizela na 18litara,vjerovatno benzinac u 4 brzini
Am I the only one thinking he needs to put fuel in those cars?
no, they are likely show/seldomly driven cars. the fuel will go off, especially the diesel
Maybe its cause he wants to show the best accelerations, due to the weight of the cars, if he would have full tank, the cars would be more heavy and less acceleration capable..if you know what i mean😄
Less fuel = less weight 🧠👈🏻
I heard if you use Blinkers on a BMW,
BMW sends 2 former Secret police members to Beat you up.
I drive a BMW and I can confirm this
The difference is, the diesel is always equally fast. If you shift up at 3000 rpm and just drive normally, it's as fast as it's gonna get. The petrol needs to be revved to redline if you want it to be as fast as it can be. That's why the diesel feels faster and is faster in everyday driving, and far more effortless to go fast in. 320d feels like it has at least 50-60hp more than 320i. Petrol can only keep up with diesel when you redline it and full throttle it and look like you're insane making a lot of noise. Diesel is just fast by default, no extra effort needed.
That's true, but petrol is way more fun on track and sounds better :)
Nah, because diesel engine without turbo is weak. That feeling you are having that it is 50 hp more in diesel is just because you have turbo. If you have diesel without turbo you are gonna see. And even without turbo in petrol car in this video its pretty close. If 320i had turbo like it has nowdays.... Turbo is super important because of torque.
Torque is King 👑. Diesel is 👍
Its not equally fast, it just feels faster because you got huge torque in low revs. If you rev the engine out, a equal Petrol engine (lets say 335d and 335i) is faster on paper
@@enfantterrible4868 true, you get more torque with diesel but with petrol you get more horsepower per litre. Torque is important but its a tricky thing, you feel like you are going fast but you arent so fast as you think. Bmw 320i e90 without turbo is 170hp and f30 320i has a turbo and it has only 15 horsepower more, because they want diesel and petrol to be close in performance. If they put sam settings on both,petrol is much faster.
man this r6 engine sound is my favourite. how it roars on the top end, wanting for more
german vtec :D
cringe
You realize they're both 4 cylinders
@@gigel99324 320i is 6, m54b22, or m52(tu)b20. 320d is 4. The only 6 cylinder diesel is the 330d. But you can easily hear that the petrol is a i6 without looking at any numbers
The secret to less fuel pump replacements is:
Floor it in 1st 2nd and 3rd a few times on your cruises 👍🏼
From 120km/h it’s clearly petrol territory. But actually impressive how close the 320 models were. And what’s almost more interesting how much less the Diesel sipped during the acceleration, the Petrol always was on the upper limit while the Diesel needle was more often in the upper quarter (especially at the end)
That is the point tho. Petrol engines get more torque in upper revs, which is why they dominate in racing. Diesel engines got lots of torque in the lower revs, which is why most trucks/haulers go diesel.
Are we comparing Apples with Apples though? They may both be called ‘320’ , but are they both 2000cc or similar?
Are they both naturally aspirated?
@@gottliebdee263 Both 2 litre, both turbo I would say?
@@truxton1000 e46 only had NA petrol engines, 320i is 2.2 I6 320d is 2.0 I4
@@lukemeh1783 Ok thank you for that. Even more impressive for the petrol without the turbo then. I got a 2019 2 litre petrol turbo in my 430i, the 420d i think got a 2 litre diesel. So for the f32 both petrol and diesel has 2 litre turbo, 180 something hp for the diesel, 252hp for the petrol version.
After 120 it's all just petrol action!
Stock cars, maybe. But with a very cheap modification, you can remove the DPF of the diesel, remap the CPU and gain 10-20% increase in performance right away while still keeping the car as reliable as stock. While on benzin fuel, you can't practically do nothing cheap to increase performance. And the diesel will run faster, have more torque low and mid range revs, and consume almost half as much fuel. So, no real debate in my mind. BTW I drive X3 3.5sd mapped to around 330 hp. Beating almost everything from traffic light to traffic light on street asphalt - less grippy I mean.
@@wildyracing1 there is always that one guy... "Oh my diesel is fAsTeR". Cool
We talking stock cars. Diesel will be quicker off the line, but slower as speed increases. I prefer High end power than low end torque in sports car. Diesel is great to daily and to race someone from lights to lights once a while.
I really don't care about economy, how much torque you got etc. I honestly don't wanna hear again about how diesel is better, because u think it is. Drove it, never liked it as much as petrol no matter what power /torque.
You like diesel, that's FINE, but I don't give a fuck. I like my gasoline.
And if diesel would be N/a there wouldn't be an easy way to increase performance. Diesel is ez to add power just because they all turbo.
If petrol is boosted stock, it can easily be tuned to 20%+ power increase too.
wildyracing1You can also modify 320i for chep
Diesel cars has longer transmission than gasoline because they have more torque and can achieve high speeds
" Very cheap modification" Swap with 2JZ :) Whatever you do, petrol engine is always faster because of its nature. Yes you can travel with diesel engine like a 19th century train.
🔥🔥🔥 330i vs 330d
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Diesel are great for daily driving. you can go from point A to point B cheap and yes you can play a bit between traffic lights.but if you want power and some more fun then petrol engines are a must
It's kind of the opposite. Diesel engines are slower at acceleration but they have much more NM (brute power) than petrol engines. What i mean is diesels can carry more and heavier stuff with ease. Petrol engines are just fun to drive and that's all to it. Also, diesel engines are. Much more heavier than the petrol ones. Thus, petrol engines are much more suitable for driving in the city, especially in the crowded ones and the diesel engines are more suitable for driving on the highway or driving from a city to another.
So diesels are really not great for daily driving, except if you drive for hundreds or thousands of kilometers daily. Haha
@@stefaneduard8169 yes diesel engines are heavier but as you say because the have much more torque than a petrol engine their bigger mass is not a problem for pulling off of lights.moreover with diesel engines you can achieve higher mpg's which is usefull for city driving.when you are on the highway petrol engines are better because there is less engine noise
@@alexandrosbouris9587 It's the complete opposite. Diesels are meant and built for large distance monotonous driving for the system to perform under optimal efficiency and to withhold ecological standarts. If you're driving quick short burst (city driving) with a diesel, be ready for it to gunk up reasonably quickly. Not only that but it also heats up slower that way and makes it less fuel efficient than a petrol that way.
truth is that diesel engines are better at everything (except sporty driving)
Now make 330i vs 330d ☺️
Want?:)))
@@muldix sure mate! That's gonna be awesome 🤗
@@muldix and 335i vs 335d :0
Diesel is always weaker than petrol, diesel always needs a turbo to get the car's performance on petrol. Diesel always needs a turbo to achieve petrol performance!
@@Tom_Cruise_real Are you a bot???
320d 150hp 320i 170hp ... I count the diesel an overall winner. Well aware of the differences 11 years ago when I got my 3 series, I choosed diesel, I still would.
Only if u want slight lower consuption,if you want fun and adrenalin,all day petrol... You need to add that diesel is having a turbo,petrol dont,so yeah,overall winner for me is 320i
@@StrahinjaRadinovic After you own both or own one and have access to the other you see what you give vs what you get.
@@lucianvasile7300salut.
Ce sa aleg dintre 320D si 320i? Care merita din cele doua in anul 2023? Vreau putere pe drum lung intins
Sal
@@AndrewTate-nf2id daca vrei putere si faci multe drumuri lungi in afara, ia un 330d. Parerea mea e ca 320d nu merita, n-are nici un farmec
The 20d goes faster up till 100kmh , It's got speed and power where you need it the most , without too much fuss and with half the fuel consuption its the 20D for me all the way...nobody really cares about top end speed unless you do races regulary on autobahn.
Hahah the 2.0d is like 8,5/9,5l in the city and is a DIESEL
@@ognjenz2456 its 6,5L for me here while the 320i hovers around 12L
@@KaufDirGeld Between me and my friend we had like 6 of the 2.0d and I don't know in what universe is that engine on 6.5l urban hahaha and the 320i i also know it 12-14l
Agreed 100% Diesel much quicker acceleration up to motorway speeds that's what counts off the line it's effortless and much more reliable and engine will last longer. PLUS gets nearly twice the mpg! ... It's a No Brainer Diesel is better hands down in all areas!
my 320ci does 9.5l in city
The petrol engine has two more pistons and 200 cm more displacement,but diesel keep up very well
I think that can keep up very well because diesel engine has a turbocharger and the petro enginel is atmospheric
☀️❎☀️@@danielcalatravacalatrava6887
Turbocharged vs Naturally aspirated aswell. So it's the petrol that performed really well to be honest
320ci is coupe, 320d iz limo, 320cd accelerate faster than 320d
@@lazarpetrovic8118 no it doesn't
I think fair comparison would be a older 2.0l petrol with 150 hp.
This one is 2.2l
I totally agree, but there are not videos like that damn.
And it's also the 320d (sedan) being compared to the 320ci (coupé). I assume the ci is a bit lighter.
@@joaoa13portugal coupe is always heavier then sedan.
@@joaoa13portugal could be lighter then diesel.
@@sinblago Nope. Sedan should mostly be heavier, since it has more parts than the coupe. If you check the weight of e46 sedans and coupes, sedans are between 1,285-1,655 kg and coupes are 1,285-1,555 kg. So highest spec sedan is a 100 kg heavier than a highest spec coupe. Other than that, they're pretty much the same weight.
Thanks for the video, what engine versions were this? I'm asking because theres a 136hp and a 150hp diesel and a 150hp and a 170hp petrol.
Have you even watched the video? It is literally written on screen, Diesel: 150hp, 2.0 I4 turbocharged; Petrol: 170hp, 2.2 I6 N/A
In most cases well in Ireland anyway 160kmh is highest you go in most situations so 320d is plenty
Chibinha it's also 120 there
Chibinha german autobahn is german autobahn 👌🏼
Man I miss my e46 320d 😔 only paid €400 got 6 months out of until a nice cop took it off me for no insurance. He was sound enough to let me go though
@Mr330d
of course 320d can reach 160kp/h but it is not about topspeed but acceleration and wide powerband which 2.0 r4 doesn't have in my point of view. for crusing down the autobahns 2.0d is too weak I would say.
Mr330D.. In most cases in ireland 160klph is too fast. But if am dtiving your 330D in lucan Bypass N4 up to celbridge i can whip it up to 200kph and over with no problem.. Had my e46 320d remapped years ago and it is really very limited car. Won't go over 200kph..
The petrol car has 20hp more, so those accelerations are normal. It would have been more interesting to compare 320d with 320i 150 ps
Andrei Ionescu 320i petrol is shitty engine :((
@@muldix but Acceleration is equal to 2.0 m52 and I think in e36 this engine is really not bad
plus here on the vide petrol engine is coupe. this also make some difference.
Slovakia Sky no difference in weight.
Torque can be converted in hp so there are two units of power when you compare a car performance those two need to be equal. In this case 20 hp more for the petrol but 100 nm more for the diesel , this comparation is pretty fair. You can’t say petrol has 20 hp more and forget about the diesel torque which is plenty over the petrol. Petrol cars are faster in any situation especially when they are turbocharged like the big v8’s and v10’s when they get a lot of torque due to turbocharging , there is no diesel around bcs they can get not nearlly as much hp as a petrol gets from a big engine.
I6 2.2i 125kW, 320d 110kW....If 320d was tuned to 125kW it would go same as I6, maybe eaven better
Exactly and 320d it’s on 280000 km the 320ci its only 164000
320i has worse start, rpm was bellow 2k
Everyone saying "It should be more even, use the lower power petrol engine." I agree. We should also turbocharge the petrol engine. It will be even faster then top end than this one is, and can be just "StAgE 2" remapped as well, same as the diesel.
Faster you say ? Let’s test a twin turbo diesel like mine and twin turbo petrol 😁 Then lets remap then and the petrol starts loosing drastically
Diesel is not made for performance... All remaps and the turbo are added to make the car driveable... Now if you are such a bad driver that you want to compare yourself to a diesel engine and whine about them having stock turbos smaller than your PP.. Oh well dude you a sick kid
Clear win for petrol, imagine 320i + turbo
well what can i say, diesel will always be slightly slower than petrol. Not to forget that to be performing a Diesel always needs a turbo
Yet a petrol needs to be high revving in order to perform.... Rather have a turbo, remap and 50mpg when I want it over a noisy guzzler
This is a 150hp diesel vs 170h petrol engines
@@MrTheBlastGamer thats the earlier 136 hp Diesel engine. Not the 150hp one.
136HP in my opinion too, its too slow i have 150HP and its alot faster.
@@Asghan92 you can see it by the redline starting at 4.6k rpm. Yours should start at 5k
160000km vs 280000km
For this Diesel engine in nothing 280.000km, I see 450.000km on this engine and run fine
I like how everyone is fighting in the comments which engine is better😄😁
I am just curious about the temperature difference. Will it make any difference about performance ?
320 I gas tank empty.... The legend said he wasn't able to go to petrol station after that...
:-D :-D :-D weight savings.
Diesel is always weaker than petrol, diesel always needs a turbo to get the car's performance on petrol. Diesel always needs a turbo to achieve petrol performance!
It doesn't need any kind of supercharger. It just needs to be bigger volume (which superchargers simulates).
also diesel consumption is 2 times less than petrol and it have ovet 100 NM more than petrol.
I don't say that one is better than other. It depend's what you want or what you need.
@@zapalony5312 Not really a 2 times better consumption in modern engines anymore. But there is still some. But they produce more NOx gases.
But yes, as you said. Depends on your preffered use case.
@@dannulik Yes but i'm afraid modern engines would not stand 700k KM.
Old petrol/ diesel engines are better because you can fix it and you don't have to spend 7-20k € on new engine. And ofcourse it depend's of how you ride, service and parts/ fuel quality. But 700k km to bmw should be nothing.
@@zapalony5312 Modern tracks do a lot more than 700k km. Old engines are to some extent easier to fix. But they are less powerfull and a lot less efficient. BMW were known to not be very reliable in the past decade (2000-2010). I would say that today most EU manufacturers are on par when it comes to engines (bad pieces from time to time).
0:34 ik this car's old but our 2.0l diesel(2015 b8 passat variant) does like 5-7liters/100km at 140-160
Yeah, but he's flooring it, not going eco
@@vivisio27 well yeah thats true
That bouncing consupmtion needle on diesel is not normal, also it is kinda slower than it should be.. maybe its not in top condition anymore.
320 m47 on 190k still pulls like a train
Diesel has 286.000 KMs and petrol has 162.000 KMs. I'd wonder if the petrol engine would perform the same after those KMs
mine does
286 or 162 is nothing for both engines
yeah it does. I have E46 with petrol inline six engine approaching 300.000 km, still runs great and burns no oil. All cylinders have very good compression (tested)
Surely the extra 120k miles on the clock of the diesel should count for something.
100%
Kilometers
only kilometers :-))))
2:01 why did you let off the acceleration on the diesel?
He shifted into 5th gear, but it was obviously way too soon to do that
torque band on diesel engines starts to drop on 3k
and drops miserably over 4k, on lower gears you still take advantage of the big difference in ratio, but in higher gears you have to shift earlier to get maximum accaleration, it is a weak point of diesels (they can be easely tuned to increase performance and beat the petrol, but the hi rev band will always be disappointing, they shine elsewhere)
Yes 110kW vs 125kW
150 CP vs 170 CP
AND???????
It's time to buy second hand straight-six guys, they are slowly disappearing...6 and 8 cylinders engines are endangered species
diesel was faster to 60 they where equal to 80 and the petrol was slightly faster at 100 and anything past that it destroyed the diesel.
Diesel is always weaker than petrol, diesel always needs a turbo to get the car's performance on petrol. Diesel always needs a turbo to achieve petrol performance!
꧁NERO꧂ hold on your horses 😂 Normal petrol cars are pretty bad. My 3l twin turbo diesel at just stage one wipes e92 M3 so the petrol ones need turbos as well. They might catch up at top end but by then you long gone. Twins are different and you get all that performance with really good fuel consumption. Petrol it’s the king yes but in sports cars. Daily ones petrol ain’t worth it
@@YordanHristooov Интересно. Каква е колата и мощността, че ми е любопитно?
V3N0M 640d. Направихме лек ремап само до 370кс и 700nm. Върнахме я от 389 да сме сигурни, че няма да имам грижи със скоростната кутия. На мен също ми се кара бензин но не виждам смисъл, освен ако не е мапнато М4. Карам си MV-то и май няма да се засилвам за м-ки, че ще ми дойдат в много разходите и няма да се справя 😂 Мотора и без това върви повече
V3N0M нормален бензин без турбо до около 430-440кс просто е много бавничък и му трябва да стигне поне 200 за да се завърне в играта.
Diesel at 280.000 Patrol is at 160.000
diesel 150 patrol 170 hp
WTF :D
u didnt compare the nm tho... the diesel has 330nm vs the petrols 210nm thats a big fckin difference
@@MartijndeRondeDesigner during acceleration more important is power not torque
@@micha895 meeh its kinda both really fckin important especially accalerating out of a corner for example
First time I see LCI having a tacho like this, my, as do most LCI's have red line at 5k not 4,5 so this might not even be the 110kw one but the 100kw version...
@@MartijndeRondeDesigner And the RPM of the engine is not big difference? One can go up to 7k RPM and the other barely reach 5k RPM. And when you add vanos things change. If you check the car specs of the E46 models for example lets compare the 316i(116 Hp, 175 Nm) with 318D(115 Hp, 265 Nm).Both are 4 cylinder engines with almost the same HP. On paper the 318D should destroy the 316i because of the torgue but the 0-100 accelaration difference is 0.2(and diesel car is 75kg heavier) (according to auto-data.net). So the accelaration is pretty much the same of both cars despite of the torgue
E90 163hp - same engine as E46 320d, heavier car, still 7hp less than 320i. Same acceleration. Remap E46 to same hp as the 320i and he will blow it away.
Should I buy 323i 170 hp or 320d 150hp??? For trips🎉
320d for better fuel consumption
the e90 bmw is a better comparison cause the 320i and 320d is both 4 cyl 2 litres, but there the diesel would certainly win, the petrol version is either 148 or 168 hp and diesel is 177 or 184.
that 320d is sick. has some problmes mine had 200 so easy
You choke the gasoline at the end of the revolutions in diesel there is a different moment but you also have to pull it higher. I did not take this test fairly
Jefe pues ese diesel lo llevas quemado o no has querido pisarle la aguja de consumo no la tenias al 20l y el gasolina si yo temgo un e46 320d 136cv y sube mas rapido la aguja de velocidad un diesel no tiene nada que envidiarle a un gasolina y menos estos motores. Gracias
320d is really KILLED by stragulated exhaust, not to mention his turbine exductor measure about 36mm.. all exhaust gases have to leave engjne tru a hole of 36mm even at full load.. and also there's a wheel inside 😂
By the way, that 320d could be remapped in 30minutes and will humiliate hard way that 320i which can do nothing to improve so fast and cheap the performances :)
No matter how fast it is, the 320d sounds like crap and feels like an ordinary diesel. The 2.2 petrol six cylinder is quick enough (assuming it works with all 170 hp), makes a beautiful sound, and it feels great when driving. I'd still have a 320i, any day, any time
@@FStan-co8vv sounds as crap?! Maybe your one. If using proper camshafts, turbo, exhaust.. sounds waaay better than your asthmatic 2.0 n/a. My 1.9 DIESEL sounds right NOW better than your n/a in load, also push harder at (top) 6000rpm than your fuel engine 🤣 (i got dyno anyway). I suppose you do not refer how sounds at idle, because nobody care about (my exhaust sound waay better than your n/a 2.0 even at idle🤣).
By the way.. it is uploaded here a movie with one diesel E90 build in my country by some guys from iasi.. it is 3.0, indeed.. but check to see how pushing a proper modified diesel and how sounds (CompleteCHIP youtube, that mate name is Dragos)
@@napraznicul No, it doesn't sound better than the petrol. Whatever car sounds better is entirely a matter of personal preference, and in my opinion, a petrol 6 cylinder has a much more pleasant sound frequency. If you prefer the sound of tractor rattle and bogged down farts, it's your personal opinion and you're entitled to it, no problem. But some of us have different tastes and we utterly hate that sound, and that's why me (and many others) still prefer the petrol six. Also, my 320i is a 2.2, not a 2.0 like you said. Do you think your 4 cylinder diesel sounds better than an "anemic" six cylinder M5 E34 ?
@@FStan-co8vv i don't give a fuck how sounds vs a stock S38, but is faster than that e34 🤣.
As i said above.. if for you matter how sounds at iddle ("farts" and other stupid ideas.. by the way, those big block drag prepaired american motors with 2500-3000bhp sound the same- but is bad, isn't it? 😂.. only your 100bhp engine sounda good🤣) that mean you use the car in tre parking place only, so i wish you succes at shopping and be careful to not be late home.. your mother could become mad on you🤣🤣
@@napraznicul you think you're faster than an M5 S38 hahaha. That M5 can actually go fast with no modifications, and also while making a pleasant sound. And no, your diesel doesn't sound like a drag racing V8 AT ALL, not even at idle, let alone at revs, you must be deaf if you think it does.
I never said ONLY my engine sounds good. Obviously, there are so many engines that sound good (like V8s, like the S38, etc etc) and many engines that sound better than mine. But not a 2.0 diesel with a loud exhaust that screams 5000 rpm like a dodged horse fart. I got a friend who owns a tuned 320cd (~200 HP) and even he admits my car sounds a lot better than his diesel hahahaha but that he wouldn't buy one because of the fuel consumption. And I don't have "100 bhp" either lmao. Stop being childish and accept not everyone likes the dreadful sound of a sport-piped tractor
Unfair, the real battle is bmw e46 320d 2.0 150hp Diesel vs bmw e46 320ci 2.0 M52 150hp
Roujan Vktr that’s what they did. Also the 320 doesn’t have an m52 or the m52tu it has the m54b20.
Nope,the petrol is the best of course,disel have turbo and petrol no.
;)
@@mrpoopybutthole6314 exactly that was his point.They used the m54 with 170hp instead of the m52 with 150 hp. Both were used in the e46
so if you want to compare if diesel or petrol is faster you should use one with the same hp
Personaly i found this better,because you can see that the 20hp less diesel can keep up until 100/120 km/h
marc blub yup, no contest here really, even it all up and the diesel willl piss all over the petrol like a mofo. Don’t forget 2 less pistons as well!
What an emotions in diesel 😄. Petrol only
ci 125 kw vs d 110 kw
IMO 320d did a good job
320d is 286k km and 320ci 160k haha
ci 4,5 °C vs. d 9,5°C
Actually, low temperature for an aspirated engine is an advantage when it comes to power curve.
Bmw 320Ci 2.2L 170hp 2.0L have a 150hp
This is 2.0d 136hp not 150, 150hp goes past 180 like nothing.
Hows possible there is no other warning light showing up except DCS. Mine E46 2.0 LPG Bj2000 shows Handbrake,ABS, Engine, Water cooling, parking lights ect. May i should repair something after 350.000km
Patrick Landfarth 😂😂😂
And this warning light is on only because we switched of DSC to maximize acceleration. No faults at all 😛
@@muldix Traction control was the first thing which stopped working but I don't need it anyway while i love to drift at any season 🤣
Please please please do a bmw X5 3.0d 2005 sport edition. Woopsie didn't realise that it was already made.
Hussein Hussein Kumbarov already done, try to explore our channel bro :)))
320d 286.850 km 320ci 162.475
Do a remap chip tuning on diesel, than it is chalenge for petrol.
Put a turbo on the petrol engine, do a remap chip tuning, than challenge a diesel.
Only petrol. Diesel - tractor
the diesel siunds quieter even at 200
True story man
Have you ever heard a proper 6 inline diesel ? Tractor my ass
they have a resistant diesel engine, they are for work not for playing races
Now do 330ci vs 330d
Turbo vs atmosphefric..
Put the better atmospheric do you have, the L6 Petrol just still best
What's the fuel on the right one
No,no,no,noo 320d just remap it whit racechip and you will see the difference! And sprint booster is amazing too.
They just don't make them like they used to
Why is the redline on diesel between 4.5 and 6 and on petrol 6.5 and 7 ??
Caus petrol has higher rounds per minutes, altho diesel has more power at lower rpm´s
after 150 the diesel wasnt fully accelerating.....look at economizer.
Man, diesel torque is much higher than petrol, i cant understand how sucks against lower torque petrol?
Shouldn't the mileage gauge go down when your flooring it, I'm confused by the numbers.
As said difference is in mpg you measure how much miles you go on a single gallon. While at L/100km it measures how much litres you expend to go 100 kilometres. In other words higher numbers are better for mpg, while lower numbers are better for L/100km.
Faut pas oublier que le compteur de vitesse d'un diesel est faussé une foix a fond il a une différence de 5 a 10 klm/h
320d 136 PS vs. 320i 170 PS?
No 320d 150 hp 320i 170hp
it's 320d 150 hp, can you read?
I have Bmw 320d e46 coupe 110kw, it goes way faster then this diesel... I was drived 215kmh and could go 225 230 easy
zvat cu ti policiju
di si ga 215 vozio?
Ovo je bila trka do 200 na sat, ne ko može veću brzinu postići
Thanks!
Diesel 160kmh 14l/10??? throtle...:)..
Fuck diesel man no matter whats faster or has better fuel economy. Had both 320i, 320d e46 and id never use a diesel again 😂 M54❤
Hhh true
th the difference in kilometeres on the dash i mean c'mon the diesel almost had 300k vs the other car just a bit more then half of the diesel version.165k kilometres
Diesel have almost 300k km and the petrol had almost half so the diesel done a great job
There is almost 120000k mileage difference between the 2 cars, even then the Diesel performed really well. Not really a fair test to be honest but thanks for sharing. Also why does it sounds like that you are speaking from the the toilet ?
on the diesel shouldnt u be shifting a tiny bit earlier ?
Why would he?
@@fuckyourmom4305 maybe because power falls like a mf after 4200-4300 rpm
dont know if it would make a difference (because power drops off but if you change gear early maybe you are to low in revs idk) but that was his point i think
@@assi2assi You make a valid point brother! Every car has a top torque limit and every driver should know that point and its there that you want to shift gears not earlier and definitely not latter! And thats why less and less manuals are being produced!
temperature difference makes difference
El problema no es que uno ande más que otro el problema es que el gasolina le pisas ella aguanta porque la presión de los inyectores es menor que la del diesel y el diesel tienes dos tipos el que tiene una bomba que mueve varios inyectores y el que tiene el famoso inyector-bomba que como se te rompa uno vale 1000 € y verdaderamente consumir si te vas a un 3500 centímetros cúbicos gasolina turbo y aún 3500 centímetros cúbicos diésel turbo el gasolina si es mismo modelo tiene más revoluciones y sueles tirar más el diésel rompe antes si le pisas
your diesel is broken, block the EGR open the engine take out all that gunk and put everthing togheter and it will go to 160 without a problem, after that it will go to 200 but more slowly
I would like diesels ... Maybe ..If I were def !!!
Agree! The 320d will always sound like shit, no matter what exhaust you put on it. The 6 cylinder diesel in the 330d sounds better, but still not as good as 6 cyl petrol
People crying about 320d being slower no shit Sherlock 320d 4cyl diesel vs 320i 6cyl petrol 😂
170cv > 150 cv
It's not a good test. Because the diesel car has got double km or miles than gasoline. The compression loss of the diesel car engine with almost 300k km has to be high...
That's why they don't make race cars on diesel fuel.
They do. Peugeot 908 HDi either with a 3.7l V8 or a 5.5l V12, the Audi R10, R15, R18 TDI etc, JCB Dieselmax and a Seat Leon in the WTCC.
why is that 320D so slow? i have 320D 100kw in stock, and in worst condition and it has way more power than this 320d in video
The 320d is not flored after 160 (check the fuel counter)
Желязко Пехливанов it’s flored. It consumes less than 20 liters per 100 kilometers with full gas while going fast
@@muldix If i remember i will test it tomorrow.
@@Reculse Test it as much as you want and floor the pedal to the asphalt but don't expect it to go 5k rpm after 120kmh. Diesel is good at launch cus of the torque but after that its a straight downhill. And i can assure you that if the petrol was turbocharged, not even a 330d would stand a chance!
Petrol sounds lovely diesel sounds like a tractor
Is the 320d 6 Zylinder?
Nein
I'm definitely petrol fan, but tbh. Diesel has 286k km and petrol 162k km... a bit not fair...
LOL 320i 170hp 0-100 8.2, 320d 150hp 0-100 8.9. Totally dumbasas in comments.
No me cuadra algo 🤔🤔 si os fijáis en la aguja del turbo el 320d no está a tope como la del 320ci puede que dejara de acelerar a fondo al 320d 🤔🤔🤔
No es del turbo, es la aguja del consumo de combustible (l/100 km)
M54b22 or M52 engine?
Ok i seen it B22
Diesel 286000, le turbo ne doit pas souffler fort qu’à l’origine……. Par rapport à l’essence qui a beaucoup moins de kilomètres
Nyugi emberek, azért üres a tankjuk mert a " versenyre" nem akartak + 50 liter üzemanyagot cipelni ~ 50 kg plusz súly sokat számít :D
BMW харош! Как не крути. ;-)
EN: BMW is great! Doesn't matter how you rotate it. (Russian idiom)
😂😂😂😂😂
Petrol is great but expensive as fuck in europe and consumption is ridicoulous compared to diesel, no to mention they last less km.
150hp vs 150 or 136 vs 150?
110km diesel vs 125kw petrol
Koja je kilometraža na 1 a koja na 2 om bmwu, sve u svemu dizel power
dizeeeeeel
Pogledaj u zadnjem test lik ubaci u 5 brzi u pri 3000 okretaja normalno da ce biti sporijii, gledaj benzinca zabio kazaljku od goriva hoce da probije a kod dizela na 18litara,vjerovatno benzinac u 4 brzini
There is 100k miles on the speedo diffrents on the engines not a fair test at all
Omg i'd oversprint you both easily with my 1.0TSi 😂, yet waiting to be chipped from 200 to 250nm.. can't wait for that..
Benzynę dusisz na obrotach do końca w dieslu jest inny moment ale też go trzeba pociągnąć wyżej. Nie potraktowałem uczciwie tego testu.
Not fair, diesel has turbo. Petrol atmosphere
True BMW driver
Diesel 2.0 150cv gasolina 2.2 170cv.... no está equilibrado...
Same year :-) both 20 versions... Nothing wrong
@@muldix diesel 150hp vs gasolina 150hp good comparation, 150hp vs 170hp MALA COMPARACIÓN... AQUÍ Y EN PQUIN...😂
The diesel has 286k km and the petrol one has 165 k km not fare
😂 take the EGR out, block the "abgas-retour"-klappen, buy a new turbo and you'll have a monster-diesel at your foot ;)
i have that car :D that 320D in stock,and i can tell you it has much more power than this on the video :D
Monster diesel, but 320d sounds like crap compared to a 6 cylinder petrol
@@FStan-co8vv than pay for the actual gas price 🤪
@@נאווק604 Yep, that's exactly what I'm doing every day hahaha
@@FStan-co8vv 🤦🏻♂️🤣