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I've seen the extended and comprehensive video on this vehicle. I'm not easily impressed but I'm blown away by the luxury. Tech. Capability of this thing. As the owner of a chinese GWM Cannon ute. I'm ready to sign up now
Unfortunately here in Canada the government wants to subsidised the model T EV's that the legacy brands are selling, and have hammered Chinese cars with 100% tariffs, so we miss out on the high tech Chinese cars which are or could be sold for less money than the EV's or ICE cars that we have access to.
Its a matter of 3-4 years before tesla catches up to them. Till then buy cheap 2nd hand tesla and in 6 yrs self driving future will be real than no1 needs cars.
And Poiverre wants to end EV subsidies which will make things even worse. Conservatives are trying their hardest to destroy local Canadian car industry by undermining EV car sales, Trudeau is trying to make sure Canadians only have access to overpriced or crap EVs. With politicians like this who needs enemies?.
When comparing trunk space between brands, beware that Tesla use a different set of parameters which results in a figure 30-40% higher. Tesla specification states trunk volume is 870 litres (which is 300 litres more than vehicles of similar wheelbase!). German motoring body measured the Model y using the commonly used parameters and the figure is 540 litres. assets.adac.de/image/upload/Autodatenbank/Autotest/at6259-tesla-model-y-maximum-range-awd/tesla-model-y-maximum-range-awd.pdf
Sam, given the pricing of the 7x, the Tavascan about to be released and model Y juniper due early next year, why did you by the G6 already? Can you also talk about living with the G6? Has it met expectations etc.
Any chance you can quote in Aussie dollars (first) then USD… as you mention range in klms (but not miles) - or simply do both, as you sometimes do in other posts 🤙
For those of you touting that Tesla has higher profit margins compared to Chinese automakers, Tesla fattens its profit margins by selling in the US market where there is very little competition and they get billions of dollars of government carbon credit subsidies. Tesla generated $45B in sales in the US and $22B of sales in China in 2023. Yet the number of cars sold in each country was very similar, 655K sales in US and 603K sales in China in 2023. Thus the profit margin is CLEARLY much lower in China. If BYD had the same access to the US market as Tesla has to the Chinese market, it's profit margin would almost certainly be at least equal to if not higher than Tesla.
@@oxidalpha6350 I don't think the US would let BYD build a factory here. Ford and CATL were planning a joint venture to build batteries, but US politicians rapidly put a stop to that.
I keep seeing this spewed all over the internet, yet Musk says it's not true. In fact he has suggested the US stop the credits as it would only help Tesla.
Macan ev turbo is better. Has nearly same range with less good battery technology. So this means macan is more efficient. With this battery in macan it would be masterpiece.
We are seeing extraordinarily good cars at great prices hit the market. We have been reading of a slowdown in the rapid growth rate of electric cars - perhaps this will be the dynamic of a new growth spurt?
My question on the 7X: which models have adjustable air suspension? When it comes to Mexico what charge standard. Mexico has not forced compliance to North American charging standards.
Closer to $53,000AUD for the base model because it will undercut the Model Y price here. I reckon $60,000 for the long range. Still a lot for a new brand.
@@robsengahay5614 Zeekr is supposedly going to price themselves as a premium brand here in Australia. I’d love it if they priced themselves around $53k for the base, it’s the model i’d be going for personally!
They will complain again because none f these chinese brands really earn money. Nio makes has a loos of 2.3 billion every year since 2017. if they want to earn money prices have to go up
Now they are banging on about low resale values without realising that would mean really good value in the used car market 3 years down the road for all of those who are keen to get in an EV but cannot shell out the cost of a new one. Of course if you are planning on buying new and keeping the car then resale value isn’t that relevant.
That’s what I will do . The electric cars go for 500 miles easily so buying a 3 year old one is a no brainer.. The trepidation in the ev market is partly because the technology is progressing so fast . An iPhone lasts 5 years but costs 1000 bucks. An ev in 5 years time will be so so much better than today . People can’t afford that risk profile and so hold off.
@@joeblue2492 I buy reconditioned iphones. They aren’t the latest but still are good for a few years. It’s all about utility. If you are looking at a car as a daily commute vehicle or a local runaround (maybe the household 2nd car) and you have a small budget you can buy a used EV or a used ICE. Look at all the running costs and compare which will cost you the most to own and run. I would be surprised if the EV wasn’t going to save you money in comparison.
Have a great road trip w. your boys Sam, gonna be so fun. I’m still waiting for refreshed Model Y, I have more confidence w. warranty and longevity of business. Unless you know something I don’t. Seem to be well not dissing Tesla, but really really stroking Zeekr (which I’m a huge fan of) and Xpeng (also a great car).Model Y tested and proven so that’s that for me….. again have a great time w. your boys. Happy for you I. This distressing time in your family. Adelaide.
Far better than anything Tesla has ever offered and for a lower price. If Tesla can't step up its game, the only thing that will allow their car business to exist are tariffs and embargoes.
Tesla can compete in the Chinese market because they have access to Chinese batteries which is at the heart of making EVs competitive not only with other EVs but with ICE. So Tesla biggest threat isn't from China... but from the American government. If US politicians shut off Teslas access to Chinese batteries (like they recently pressured Ford to drop CATL) it will damage Tesla's global competitiveness in EVs
@@marianbiznesu1899 Software is important all things being equal but batteries are what make or break. I think something like 40-50 percent of Tesla batteries are made in China. As China has pulled ahead in battery tech Tesla will become even more dependent on China to stay competitive. The primary reason the big three can't compete in EV sector today is because the American government keeps hounding them not to use Chinese batteries. If they try to do the same to Tesla, American car industry is in big trouble. As EVs replace ICE globally they will have no market to sell even ICE to. That's why so many ICE car factories are closing in China. At least in China, its reached the tipping point where ICE is better value for many common use cases. There are still some range anxiety issues but those should be ironed out in the next couple of years as next gen evs and ev chargers are rolled out.
What, you can't add 50%? There are over 190 different countries on this planet with as many different currencies. Sure Sam is Aussie but he probably has more foreign watchers than locals. Pretty much all international trade is in USD it makes sense to use a universal standard on a global channel and let people work out their local exchange rate themselves.
Hey Sam, nice car absolutely. In another TH-cam clip, an Australian guy explains why Australia does not charge high import-taxes on Chinese EV' s. Because Australia is the biggest lithium producer in the world and China imports 100 times more lithium from Australia(to produce the EV-batteries) than 10 years ago.. And Australia has not a 'local" brand(Holden??); Europe and USA has several own brands. Never been in Australia, but i think was "all" German,Japanese and Korean brands. Speaking of petrol and diesel cars. Work on busy airport, but for myself i'm not so a frequent flyer. 75/80% here are transfer passengers. Australia from here about 27 hours flying, pffff And..it's sad for the 30.000 people in Germany they get fired next year. I like VW,(and all German brands) had a Polo and Golf long time ago. And yeah it's not cheap. Now i have an old Fiesta and it's a nice small car; easy to fix as well. Had a lot of Fords in the past, even the Escort.
Even in the cities . The Tesla superchargers in Australia are no where neet 800 volt . I saw a geeky charger of 800 volts in Melbourne on the weekend in front of a dealer
Electric Viking leaves out the cost of the 5 year 0% financing on Model Ys, which is like a huge price cut to consumers. That and the overall Chinese EV market growing at 40% a year is what is allowing Tesla to keep sales just above last year up till now. But now we get these new levels of competition, including the new Neo Onvo, and life gets very, very bad for the Model Y. They may get a bump from the facelift, but that will disappear rapidly with the new competitors, including the Xiaomi SUV. Without that 0% financing Tesla sales would be falling.
When are all these vehicles coming to Europe, such a liberty the powers that be are trying to tax the hell out of them to make their own cars more competitive on price
How? Macan ev turbo is better than this car with nearly same range and worse battery than this. So this means ev macan is more efficient and was also released last year. I dont see innovation in this car.
Not yen but yuan (means chinese dollar), also called rmb (renminbi means chinese currency). Sometimes people may pronounce yen or yuan similarly but there is a difference if you pronounce them correctly
Tesla has very efficient engines, aerodynamic chassis, use gigacasting and light materials - hence the difference. BYD car have quite conservative design, and use apparently no gigacasting. Eventually, BYD will have to implement new technologies to stay competitive.
stil dont get it why yo bought a xpeng when it is the only one with not vehicle to load build in and that knowing you just got a massive solarplant, its kinda stupid
You keep comparing zeeket to Tesla! Chinese vehicles do not hold a candle to anything made by Tesla! You’ll find out the hard way by owning one….hahaha
Dude any ev with less than 500 mile range is a piece of crap End of story. untill humans can drive long distances without charging problems, they will never transition to evs .Battery charging availability is at least 5-10 years away.
Not really mate , the average daily commute for an Aussie is 30 kilometres, so almost all EVs would suit us , it’s only a small minority if people who would suit longer range EVs
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Already have solar, its not going to do shit about charging a car at night... no battery system I can afford will charge a EV in any meaningful way.
I've seen the extended and comprehensive video on this vehicle. I'm not easily impressed but I'm blown away by the luxury. Tech. Capability of this thing. As the owner of a chinese GWM Cannon ute. I'm ready to sign up now
How long you own canon for mate and is it giving you any problems?
@@Phoenixgamingnp2 years. 30,000kms
It is fantastic. No issues at all.
Unfortunately here in Canada the government wants to subsidised the model T EV's that the legacy brands are selling, and have hammered Chinese cars with 100% tariffs, so we miss out on the high tech Chinese cars which are or could be sold for less money than the EV's or ICE cars that we have access to.
Its a matter of 3-4 years before tesla catches up to them. Till then buy cheap 2nd hand tesla and in 6 yrs self driving future will be real than no1 needs cars.
And Poiverre wants to end EV subsidies which will make things even worse. Conservatives are trying their hardest to destroy local Canadian car industry by undermining EV car sales, Trudeau is trying to make sure Canadians only have access to overpriced or crap EVs. With politicians like this who needs enemies?.
When comparing trunk space between brands, beware that Tesla use a different set of parameters which results in a figure 30-40% higher. Tesla specification states trunk volume is 870 litres (which is 300 litres more than vehicles of similar wheelbase!). German motoring body measured the Model y using the commonly used parameters and the figure is 540 litres. assets.adac.de/image/upload/Autodatenbank/Autotest/at6259-tesla-model-y-maximum-range-awd/tesla-model-y-maximum-range-awd.pdf
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Wow! It's so cheap when compared to the price of a ice vehicles.
As battery prices fall battery energy density improves…… its fixinta get good!!!
This Zeeker 7X is so impressive
Hi Sam, Please make a video about your G6 as well. Today I test drove a long range, I really liked it. A. from The Netherlands
7X looks great as does the G6. Pricing sounds brilliant if you are right.
Hey mate. Do you know or is there any information about when this Zeekr 7x will come to Australia? Based in Perth WA.
Appreciate your time and info
Insane aggressive pricing to wipe out combustion cars
It prob would still be worth it at 27.5% tariff in the US if they were set fairly!
Dude, this thing has double wishbone air suspension and can lift to 230mm! This is sick! Thats more clearance the BYD Shark
Zeekr is a brand I will be difinetly considering.
Looks really nice.
Don't you think, instead of going for Xpeng, you should have got Zeekr 7X?
After all, they financed your trip to China too 🤔
do you feel better now for saying that.Have a lovely happy day !
He's also getting a Zeekr X for his partner
@@gregbrown81 wrr
This car is the new benchmark for others to meet. 🤩
Sam, given the pricing of the 7x, the Tavascan about to be released and model Y juniper due early next year, why did you by the G6 already?
Can you also talk about living with the G6? Has it met expectations etc.
Do these new NMC batteries have the same degradation issues that the old one have? Should i not buy this in favour of a car with an LFP battery?
I am more concern about the 100kw ncma battery which has worse logevity and might be not as safe as LFP battery. What do you think about that?
Legacy auto should be very worried.
Any chance you can quote in Aussie dollars (first) then USD… as you mention range in klms (but not miles) - or simply do both, as you sometimes do in other posts 🤙
For those of you touting that Tesla has higher profit margins compared to Chinese automakers, Tesla fattens its profit margins by selling in the US market where there is very little competition and they get billions of dollars of government carbon credit subsidies.
Tesla generated $45B in sales in the US and $22B of sales in China in 2023. Yet the number of cars sold in each country was very similar, 655K sales in US and 603K sales in China in 2023. Thus the profit margin is CLEARLY much lower in China.
If BYD had the same access to the US market as Tesla has to the Chinese market, it's profit margin would almost certainly be at least equal to if not higher than Tesla.
If byd is willing to produce in usa with us sallarys than why not.
@@oxidalpha6350 I don't think the US would let BYD build a factory here. Ford and CATL were planning a joint venture to build batteries, but US politicians rapidly put a stop to that.
I keep seeing this spewed all over the internet, yet Musk says it's not true. In fact he has suggested the US stop the credits as it would only help Tesla.
3.8 seconds is very good!
Macan ev turbo is better. Has nearly same range with less good battery technology. So this means macan is more efficient. With this battery in macan it would be masterpiece.
@@oxidalpha6350The Macan will cost 3 times as much too
Are you aware of the prices or are you just trolling? @@oxidalpha6350
We are seeing extraordinarily good cars at great prices hit the market. We have been reading of a slowdown in the rapid growth rate of electric cars - perhaps this will be the dynamic of a new growth spurt?
Is there any idea of prices for Xpeng G6 in Australia ? Has the price been released ?
Not yet . I signed up for notifications and will test drive and then probably buy one
My question on the 7X: which models have adjustable air suspension? When it comes to Mexico what charge standard. Mexico has not forced compliance to North American charging standards.
The top model.
standard on top spec, 3000 usd for other spec
Are you canceling your order for xpeng?
Why quote process in USD if America can't get these Chinese cars?
I wonder if they could build them here to avoid tariffs and give the USA more EV choices?
To let American consumers know how much Japanese, German and American car companies pamper them
Chinese cars are banned
@@ionsula141 I don’t think they are banned. They are just placing tariffs on them to make them too expensive to be a viable option.
Can’t see this price translating dollar conversion in Australia, starting will probably be around 70k
Closer to $53,000AUD for the base model because it will undercut the Model Y price here. I reckon $60,000 for the long range. Still a lot for a new brand.
@@robsengahay5614 Zeekr is supposedly going to price themselves as a premium brand here in Australia.
I’d love it if they priced themselves around $53k for the base, it’s the model i’d be going for personally!
At Sally's corner I normally charge @350Kw
Don't quote AUD but please say USD after you quote prices. Otherwise too confusing for us Aussies.
Now that the complaining about high EV prices is over, expect people claiming no one wants them because they're cheap.
They will complain again because none f these chinese brands really earn money. Nio makes has a loos of 2.3 billion every year since 2017. if they want to earn money prices have to go up
@@oxidalpha6350Not in all cases. Cost could drop, R&D could drop and scale could rise.
Now they are banging on about low resale values without realising that would mean really good value in the used car market 3 years down the road for all of those who are keen to get in an EV but cannot shell out the cost of a new one. Of course if you are planning on buying new and keeping the car then resale value isn’t that relevant.
That’s what I will do .
The electric cars go for 500 miles easily so buying a 3 year old one is a no brainer..
The trepidation in the ev market is partly because the technology is progressing so fast . An iPhone lasts 5 years but costs 1000 bucks.
An ev in 5 years time will be so so much better than today . People can’t afford that risk profile and so hold off.
@@joeblue2492 I buy reconditioned iphones. They aren’t the latest but still are good for a few years. It’s all about utility. If you are looking at a car as a daily commute vehicle or a local runaround (maybe the household 2nd car) and you have a small budget you can buy a used EV or a used ICE. Look at all the running costs and compare which will cost you the most to own and run. I would be surprised if the EV wasn’t going to save you money in comparison.
But does seeker make right hand drive
Have a great road trip w. your boys Sam, gonna be so fun. I’m still waiting for refreshed Model Y, I have more confidence w. warranty and longevity of business. Unless you know something I don’t. Seem to be well not dissing Tesla, but really really stroking Zeekr (which I’m a huge fan of) and Xpeng (also a great car).Model Y tested and proven so that’s that for me….. again have a great time w. your boys. Happy for you I. This distressing time in your family. Adelaide.
Any idea when the Zeeker 7X will be available in Australia? Think it might cost in the range of AUD$63K to AUD$75K.
I think your price estimate is bang on. Will see if they undercut tesla though. No news on date probably q3/q4 next year
Hoping you are correct.
Okay, I am buying more ZK stock
Far better than anything Tesla has ever offered and for a lower price. If Tesla can't step up its game, the only thing that will allow their car business to exist are tariffs and embargoes.
Tesla can compete in the Chinese market because they have access to Chinese batteries which is at the heart of making EVs competitive not only with other EVs but with ICE. So Tesla biggest threat isn't from China... but from the American government. If US politicians shut off Teslas access to Chinese batteries (like they recently pressured Ford to drop CATL) it will damage Tesla's global competitiveness in EVs
Teslas' advantage is software i.e. FSD.
@@marianbiznesu1899 Software is important all things being equal but batteries are what make or break. I think something like 40-50 percent of Tesla batteries are made in China. As China has pulled ahead in battery tech Tesla will become even more dependent on China to stay competitive.
The primary reason the big three can't compete in EV sector today is because the American government keeps hounding them not to use Chinese batteries. If they try to do the same to Tesla, American car industry is in big trouble. As EVs replace ICE globally they will have no market to sell even ICE to. That's why so many ICE car factories are closing in China. At least in China, its reached the tipping point where ICE is better value for many common use cases. There are still some range anxiety issues but those should be ironed out in the next couple of years as next gen evs and ev chargers are rolled out.
How much is the XPENG G6 ? AUD ?
60k for long range
If US cannot access these EVs products please don’t mention it in USD. And Sam, as an Australian please quote in Australian dollars AUD
USD is still the most common currency and 4 me is convenient to talk about prices in USD. Australia is relatively small population.
It’s because his Chanel is global, and in and it’s much easer to work out quickly the dollar price than all the other global currencies.
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What, you can't add 50%?
There are over 190 different countries on this planet with as many different currencies. Sure Sam is Aussie but he probably has more foreign watchers than locals. Pretty much all international trade is in USD it makes sense to use a universal standard on a global channel and let people work out their local exchange rate themselves.
Just use USD. We can do the maths …
How much was your xpeng?the ozzie website still has no price
price is only for people who pay for it :)
Price will be condirmed in next couple of weeks, but the long range is thought to be around 60k AUD
@@rilefe but he pick one up few days ago. So what did the @electricviking pay
@@MarsOzzie maybe he got a loan car. First commercial shipment in Australia is 4 weeks away
@@rilefe who know
Soon there will be a day when ICE drivers will be like a turtle tucking it's head back in. These cars will be amazing !
And when that day comes, I'm going to have a good laugh watching far right idiots trying to pretend they supported EVs all along.
Hey Sam, nice car absolutely. In another TH-cam clip, an Australian guy explains why Australia does not charge high import-taxes on Chinese EV'
s. Because Australia is the biggest lithium producer in the world and China imports 100 times more lithium from Australia(to produce the EV-batteries) than 10 years ago..
And Australia has not a 'local" brand(Holden??); Europe and USA has several own brands.
Never been in Australia, but i think was "all" German,Japanese and Korean brands. Speaking of petrol and diesel cars.
Work on busy airport, but for myself i'm not so a frequent flyer. 75/80% here are transfer passengers.
Australia from here about 27 hours flying, pffff
And..it's sad for the 30.000 people in Germany they get fired next year.
I like VW,(and all German brands) had a Polo and Golf long time ago. And yeah it's not cheap.
Now i have an old Fiesta and it's a nice small car; easy to fix as well. Had a lot of Fords in the past, even the Escort.
Xpeng review please
This car is competition and targeted at Li auto L6. Onvo is targeted at Tesla model Y.
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These fast charging speeds are mainly pointless in rural Australia... I cant wait to try and charge a $70K+ EV on my 50amp mains connection.
Even in the cities . The Tesla superchargers in Australia are no where neet 800 volt .
I saw a geeky charger of 800 volts in Melbourne on the weekend in front of a dealer
The biggest difference is FSD
Price is insane. Should easily be priced at usd70-80 k not 40.
Electric Viking leaves out the cost of the 5 year 0% financing on Model Ys, which is like a huge price cut to consumers. That and the overall Chinese EV market growing at 40% a year is what is allowing Tesla to keep sales just above last year up till now. But now we get these new levels of competition, including the new Neo Onvo, and life gets very, very bad for the Model Y. They may get a bump from the facelift, but that will disappear rapidly with the new competitors, including the Xiaomi SUV. Without that 0% financing Tesla sales would be falling.
Is the 5years 0% interest thing an in America? I don't see it here in Australia
@@Daybyday_improvement China and in the US (I think its 1% in the US)
When are all these vehicles coming to Europe, such a liberty the powers that be are trying to tax the hell out of them to make their own cars more competitive on price
Cangragulations for the new ev you deserve it god bless you more
Yuan or Yen
Price pending I want one
Sam, the Model Y standard range has a WLTP range of 533kms, therefor a greater range then the Zeekr 7X.
Real world test show 7X range of 655.3 km, spec 705 km.
The metal coming out of China is insane
How? Macan ev turbo is better than this car with nearly same range and worse battery than this. So this means ev macan is more efficient and was also released last year. I dont see innovation in this car.
I start to get confused when he start saying Yen instead of Rmb 😂. Anyway those are price in China, in other countries they wont be price like that.
Sorry, not yen, but RMB..
Not yen but yuan (means chinese dollar), also called rmb (renminbi means chinese currency). Sometimes people may pronounce yen or yuan similarly but there is a difference if you pronounce them correctly
Tesla has very efficient engines, aerodynamic chassis, use gigacasting and light materials - hence the difference.
BYD car have quite conservative design, and use apparently no gigacasting.
Eventually, BYD will have to implement new technologies to stay competitive.
It has a glass roof. This will cook our brains in the Australian summer. Another one that will not go on my shortlist!
Get a dark window tint on the roof glass.
Get removable shades.
It has automatic shade so it should be good.
Is like dangling candies on front of bunch kids that cant have any...Bolt and Leafs...are u kidding in 2025??
way everebody compare with Tesla, because Tesla is the best.
Old car👎👎👎
Don’t get your love for Chinese down there??
It's ducking sexy.
Whats Korea doing?
Mainly Hyundai and Kia
U mfers can hate on Mr Elon if u want to but as th world improves IT WONT AGE WELL
🥱
You know how ridiculous this is. I built a 185 room 4 star hotel and my electricity usage cap is 550kw.
Curious what your comment has to do with this video?
@@trythis2821 one car charging at 500kw vs one 185 room hotel capped at 550kw seems lopsided.
stil dont get it why yo bought a xpeng when it is the only one with not vehicle to load build in and that knowing you just got a massive solarplant, its kinda stupid
What you mean?
Kinda stupid ,, YEP Sam sure is more than a little slow
The XPeng G6 has V2L at max 3.3KW. Maybe you mistaken it for the Model Y.
Never buy Chinese.
No Volvo V90, no BMW iX3, no Mini? 😂😊
You keep comparing zeeket to Tesla! Chinese vehicles do not hold a candle to anything made by Tesla!
You’ll find out the hard way by owning one….hahaha
of course Tesla is good, all made in China too!
Not to mention they use the best battery, CATL.
This charges 300 miles in 10.5 minutes, Tesla is an inferior product at this point.
TBH, Teslas now look stale, boring and dated, not to mention poor quality interior.
You tried many chinese cars and teslas so you know that for fact or just empty talk?
Dude any ev with less than 500 mile range is a piece of crap End of story. untill humans can drive long distances without charging problems, they will never transition to evs .Battery charging availability is at least 5-10 years away.
Not really mate , the average daily commute for an Aussie is 30 kilometres, so almost all EVs would suit us , it’s only a small minority if people who would suit longer range EVs
@@jasoncarmichael4540 well good luck taking a trip from Adelaide to Sydney then))
@@coolandmellow plenty of evidence owners do that now , with no problems at all , open your eyes 👀
Ev lol
@@coolandmellow never been to Adelaide, never driven to Sydney myself , but as a child was driven from there to Bne , but thanks for your concern