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  • @SteveEh
    @SteveEh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The way it's set up now reminds me of how an air hammer works, I believe the valving is internally built into the piston. Interesting to see the progression of this.
    Thanks for the content!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I checked that out mate - it is also very similar to the Tesla earthquake machine

  • @Cooliemasteroz
    @Cooliemasteroz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That’s another good one. It brought back a memory of when I used to service and repair portable autoclaves (steam sterilizers). They use a reciprocating air pump driven by a shaded pole motor to provide filtered positive air pressure during the driving cycle. Unfortunately due to the compact design the pump was close to a hot chamber and the motor bearings and pump wouldn’t last very long. The solution was a a linear air pump. No more problems. They were made by a Japanese company called Nitto in case you’re looking for a good linear air pump.

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roll on Robbie.. you got it going now! outstanding!.. lets see what we end up with at the end of this growth project! This is rather exciting..

  • @OKFrax-ys2op
    @OKFrax-ys2op 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to rebuild pneumatic operated diaphragm pumps for waste water, they used a similar valve system and it worked quite effectively with compressed air, and were super durable and ran for years without servicing.

  • @DeliciousDeBlair
    @DeliciousDeBlair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I came up with a design with the valve and the cylinder operating coaxially, but it did not prove to be worth my effort to build it due to the amount of precision required and some other issues, while it was not immediately needed for anything I am doing at the moment.
    I find a vane motor is far superior, because it needs no valves, pistons, gears, crank shafts or flywheels to be balanced, timed, assembled, or add drag to the final design.
    A vane motor spins in the one desired direction, consistently, with no need for anything but the air flowing from one aide of the offset chamber to the other.
    While there really is no simpler of a motor out there than the gear motor, but the gear motor is hindered by clearances issues which the moving [ 'floating' if you will, and it indeed usually is in some designs , although occasionally backed by some kind of a spring in other designs] vanes have little trouble with because they in fact slide in and out of pockets [r some might say notches] that keep them in place and in alignment so that they stick out just enough to trap some of the air pressure moving by and convert that movement into rotational torque and therefore movement.

  • @gnomishengineer5300
    @gnomishengineer5300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was just watching some stirling engine videos when it occurred to me most of the common designs are exactly the linear to rotary movement you mentioned. Immediately put a different understanding of what I was looking at structurally. Thanks.

  • @OKFrax-ys2op
    @OKFrax-ys2op 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m looking forward seeing your future work on the Linear generator!

  • @markhodgson2348
    @markhodgson2348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great idea got me thinking aswell notepad time to get all thoughts out of my head,linear generation mmmmm nice ,look forward to see where you are going with this

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol - yes - sometime I have to write stuff down just because my head gets so full I can't sleep

    • @markhodgson2348
      @markhodgson2348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering lol me too

  • @geodeaholicm4889
    @geodeaholicm4889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    your mind is very innovative & fertile, lots of practice no doubt helps, & you're stimulating a lot of thought in viewers.
    quick fix for more air to run the motor; use your teenager. :-)

  • @aeh8446
    @aeh8446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Again, wonderful, quite similar to some of my prior thinking re: cylinder action, linear generator...
    Also, while a departure, I have pondered similar, or possibly producing pneumatic power, via the wind tower generator with no turbine, only the motion of the tower rocking in the wind... The further away from the tower center, the more vertical stroke (travel) increases... A series of coils and magnets arranged in a circumference about the center may be interesting...

  • @CreativeCircuits
    @CreativeCircuits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    +Rob
    Good job mate, that is exactly what I was thinking all along. This could also be used as a method for refrigeration using magnets and the metal Gadolinium by means of Magnetocaloric Effect. It is a much more efficient way to create hot and cold for the use of both. You could use the sun and wind to store additional energy that this linear motor would produce and use stored air to run this. The method of using air as a battery for storing solar and wind I feel is an untapped or at least not fully explored method of energy storage.
    I have explored this quite extensively and there is even an historic and somewhat suppressed method of generating high pressure air using an old apparatus called a Trompe. A Trompe produces high pressure air just by the natural flow of water from a higher place down into a lower in ground basin, the water pulls in air at the top that would have a collection of tubes or straws if you will, and this air then gets pulled down with the water and ends up in the in ground basin that has a rounded top or cover that collects this air and is compressed and then can be utilized and stored.
    I am currently in a early stage of creating a tower and Trompe and a ram pump as well as a low temperature heat engine and even utilizing the very air produced to have an air lift to pump water from the final basin back up into the tower for repeated cycles. This produced air can reach high pressures and can be stored in tanks to power many things and air is quite less expensive as a battery for energy storage than a chemical battery. The idea is to marry these various technologies to produce a complete self sustained energy plant that can also be used for many other mechanical needs. You can convert the solar and wind energy to air by simply using a compressor powered by these to use this energy at a time when the sun or wind is not available.

    • @Peter-bv3wo
      @Peter-bv3wo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent thinking, I just became your subscriber, collaboration of ideas is always the best...

    • @CreativeCircuits
      @CreativeCircuits 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dean-hs3vq Yes, I know this tech has been around since the early part of the century but has been left undeveloped all of these years until around 2014 and now they are working on the improvements of this with other metals and less expensive magnetocaloric substances. But more important, as I pointed out, is that we combine many of these technologies together along with many of the forgotten ones and utilize linear motors and air as a battery and an energy source that can be stored and used to power nearly everything we find useful as well as electrical generation.
      We can lower our load demands by coupling the use of air to power many of our devices and harvest electrical energy from it to have an abundance of available electrical energy when we have to power things that we do not use air for.
      Cheers to you my friend!

    • @CreativeCircuits
      @CreativeCircuits 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Peter-bv3wo Thank you Peter! Yes, absolutely! When we all come together to collaborate our minds and forget the human nature of GREED we can take all of humanity to another level altogether. I have many developments that I will soon be sharing with the world and soon will have this platform to share these things and to hope to keep our abundance and wealth of our minds and collective spirits moving forward all while I try to break the chains that enslave us all of the mindset of corporate money systems.
      These improper thinking systems of seeking wealth and money causes us all to suffer by slowing or suppressing completely the growth and keeping the knowledge in the hands of those that wish to control us and feed off of us as debt slaves.
      If we can put away this indoctrination of putting money over the prosperity of all of us just for a moment, we can begin to see with clarity how free we can become as we all are empowered to be self reliant and slave to no man or system. We can take the value back away from the false imaginary value of money and put True value back into the Human effort of each of us as this is where the true wealth is alive and thrives.
      If we all can produce our own well being then we can be free to help one another and then we would not be subject to the sorts of social experiments or money grabs or changes to economy we find ourselves in today. We would not find ourselves subject to or listening to those that claim authority over us because we will have our own empowerment to thrive and prosper without these authorities!

    • @Peter-bv3wo
      @Peter-bv3wo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CreativeCircuits All very good ideas and I really look forward to them, I would like to send you some pictures of a zinc battery that I have been working on but I will need an email from you, and if it isn't to much troublecould you give me your fist name as I hate the idea that I have to refer to you as creative circuits.....

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree mate - I feel there could be much more done on this - I have always been fascinated by tromp systems - I will check out your channel - cheers

  • @toml.8210
    @toml.8210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes; the wheel, gearing, shafts, and cams made all other machines needed for living and progress possible, and led to the machine age. James Burke had several programmes on it in his TV shows.
    Maybe a consultation with James watt might she light on the problem?

  • @nathanieljames7462
    @nathanieljames7462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a cool project!

  • @thomasmoore4576
    @thomasmoore4576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can use the exhaust of your vacuum cleaner and get your hair volume very easily

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you know - it never occurred to me lol - thanks for the tip mate - I'll rig something up

  • @sierraecho884
    @sierraecho884 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It´s not only the ICE which can be used as range extender with less loses from cranks and such but also a free piston striling engine. Those are truly fascinating, cheap, work without any oil and use clean outside combustin which is much more energy efficient compared to the ICE.

  • @aquarionh2o132
    @aquarionh2o132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Air source: Large tank that you can pressurize using a simple bicycle pump (max 150psi). Large volume, low pressure. Then, if you wanted, you could put a regulator in the output (to say 50psi as the output pressure), and you’d have a system that is able to run for X amount of time as needed.😎👍

  • @MerwinARTist
    @MerwinARTist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with a metal spring is that over time with the constant flexing .. the metal will fail. So I offer two ideas .. one is to have an air cylinder (like a syringe) that builds pressure to push back at the end of the stroke .. that might be difficult to tune .. so the second idea is to use two magnets that oppose each other .. so there would be a natural bounce back. You're always interesting .. love the mad scientist laugh .. it's so much better than burning the house down! lol 🤣👍

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol - for sure - tbh I was thinking of a gas spring myself - cheers

  • @your_utube
    @your_utube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating stuff. Just gets better and better all the time. Just love it. Thanks Robert. Electrically operated valve perhaps? Maybe even fed by the electricity generated? Also reminds me of the old doorbells.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly what I was thinking mate and position sensing the piston with a few coils the length of the tube

  • @gominosensei2008
    @gominosensei2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is one more thing that could make it absolutely multiple times more fascinating:
    replace your lungs in testing these things with a pair of low pressure high volume bellows moving up and down in the background!

  • @wombstr3tch3r
    @wombstr3tch3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wave air pump would generate 24/7...and 2 small springs inside cylinder might work

    • @Barskor1
      @Barskor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are going to have a wave pump you might as well just have it work the magnet up and down the coil shaft but if it has excess kinetic energy then capturing pressurized air for additional use running the air piston is a good idea.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea

  • @JSabh
    @JSabh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an idea for your return spring. Use a balloon, cut a small hole for both ends of the valve body ( Like you did with the NASA free piston heat engine). Attach the rubber balloon material to the valve body with the rod from the valve through the holes. That should act as your restriction and spring. Cheers, Cool project mate.

  • @venkateshks6664
    @venkateshks6664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More is that I think it would look very elegant with magnets instead of springs.

  • @RuneRelic
    @RuneRelic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compressed air is a spring.
    Thats one of the good things about suing a 4 stroke with 4 pistons.
    There should in theory always be one air spring/damper in operation.
    The trick of course is to have that air damper exert a greater opposing pressure than the driving force, as the piston approaches the wall.
    Rather than have the direct control offered by a crankshaft/camshaft.
    Although a chamber spring could suffice or an eletromagnetic brake.
    The problem you get then is the magnitude of the linear motion is related to the force.
    Thats a problem if you have valve that are linear position dependant.

  • @MACLADILLY
    @MACLADILLY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Robert, really enjoying the various projects. Here's a thought: I brewed 5 gallons of beer and the yeast reaction in the fermentation bin (with airlock) was excessive (my mistake in terms of good brewing practice) but it made me think 'with the correct yeast environment (sugars/temperature) in a sealed container with a small valve outlet (like the airlock), if the yeast was fed as required, would it be possible to either use the gas pressure from the container to run something like an air engine or would it be possible to store the pressurised gas (in a pre existing gas bottle or tank'. I am taking a gamble here, as I am NOT a scientist...

  • @Buzzhumma
    @Buzzhumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Rob And junior, doing some content on improving fish activated carbon would be great if that seems like a good idea as its cheap. i only know of sodium hydroxide and also zinc chloride method . Would be very useful i think .

  • @AdrianP247
    @AdrianP247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about some strong magnets on the inside of the piston, to push off the plug before it reaches the full stroke? One with north pole, mounted inside on one end. Another on the plug facing the other magnet (north pole facing the "piston end" magnet) then do the same on the other end of the piston.
    Might have enough strength to repel the piston at the end of the stroke?
    The Sliders (with a metal strip on the bottom) could also be set up on a copper tape "track"? The Sliders might also be able to generate current from that linear motion.
    Just some thoughts.
    Keep up the good work, Robert!

  • @Barskor1
    @Barskor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Trompe is a method to pump and compress air using falling water with the right set up you can have a hydroelectric generator and an aerogenerator using the same kinetic source.

  • @AdricM
    @AdricM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone picking this up and looking just for the free piston style motor. might think about driving the valve via magnetic push pull. as well Robert, might consider putting magnetic bumpers on the piston housing for a quick turnaround and hopefully conservation of mass. especially if you are planning on putting magnets on the piston anyway. (may also solve the starting position problem.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is older, but I just had an idea, of using a couple small pistons, with a hole in the center,. To only allow compression at the last 12mm +/-, making a air spring, causing rebound, when the piston is at TDC! Basically the same as a heavy. Flywheel on a engine! Then replace all this with metal parts, and spark plugs, and fuel and it's running..

  • @jjhack3r
    @jjhack3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello Robert, I finally got around to making an amateur video about the surface speaker you inspired me to make. It is the only video on my channel that is not labeled "old video" at the moment so it should be easy to find. I hope you enjoy! I will surely get better at explaining things in the future but I have to start somewhere.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that was awesome! - much better than anything I did - nice one mate

    • @jjhack3r
      @jjhack3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering thank you! You do good work. I probably wouldn't have thought of making one if you didn't put out your video on the inductor based version.

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome. I actually almost recommended light springs inside at each end of travel the other day but was not sure where you were going with this. Though a bit convoluted I can visualize a worm shaft with a pall on each end of the cylinder which would spin the main shaft as it moves back and forth. A stator on each end of the shaft and a magnet field to travel through could produce electricity from both ends....coming and going. Clear as mud?

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant Bob well done a great idea

  • @videomentaryproductionschannel
    @videomentaryproductionschannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yah that's a cool idea, what about a couple of short springs one each side of the piston itself, that way you get a small air gap for your input air, and on your air valve a couple of end plates and on each end of the air- valve have end stops, and on each end of the piston shaft, have fork like actuator to operate the valve, just chucking some ideas in, if that's ok, the spring idea for the piston dose work I used a similar idea on air piston chisel I made, nice video

  • @mwm2929
    @mwm2929 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good use of an older concept. I envision reliable production if placed in a creek or river..the coils could be encapsulated in resin to protect them from corrosion and use stainless hardware I suppose.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      for sure mate - tbh - any not just plastic that will work well in a wet environment

  • @corgraveland4874
    @corgraveland4874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indeed quite exciting!

  • @petermiddleton6902
    @petermiddleton6902 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking great Rob!, I totally love the concepts of linear generators. Although keeping the vibes down is an important factor to consider if jigging about at high speeds and masses. Maybe some neo magnets on each end of the piston rod going through some nice coils could do the job really great. Yes springs on each end could work or some opposing contact less neo magnetic springs would certainly be alot quieter. For your pressure differential to power the whole thing maybe you could use an external low pressure Stirling engine type air expansion and cooling circuit?. Or maybe even more interesting..., a Tesla cold steam engine vacuum principle...? :)

  • @sarchlalaith8836
    @sarchlalaith8836 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Springs for sure between the valve checks and piston body, and springs on the valves, like ww1 gasmask valves.
    Maybe a ram jet and cyclone on the bonnet of a car going into that liner alternator on the back of the vehicle to allow it to build pressure just from motion.

  • @thagrit
    @thagrit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At lung pressures you can use the outflow of an old vacuum cleaner. Maybe a leaf blower. For renewable use a huge windsock and a windy day.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice one mate - I never thought of the outlet from the vacuum - funny what needs pointing out lol

  • @mikeguitar9769
    @mikeguitar9769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An advantage of linear alternators that is often touted as the main advantage is the reduction of radial forces on the sliding seal. often the sliding seal does not use fluid lubricants in order to avoid gumming up the works. However this isn’t the only possible design; there are special linkages that reduce sidewall forces, if you don’t mind using more bearings and moving parts.

  • @venkateshks6664
    @venkateshks6664 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    instead of springs you can try using a couple of not very strong magnets preferable smal cyindrical or circular ones fixed to the piston shaft and the outside of the cylinder. Just an idea I had seen on some stirling engine model way back and they had used it to boost up the function of the inertial mass, well to lessen the weight of the attached inertial wheel.

  • @Thrive-Off-Grid
    @Thrive-Off-Grid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That switch magnet you made some time ago?? yeah much more complicated than a spring. However, a more efficient design could employ those magnets for transitioning direction using an Arduino controller to not only actuate them but also flip the polarity for the concept to work. I have replicated your switch magnet and am fascinated by it and just waiting for an application for it. This is it :)
    Toyota has been developing this for quite some time. This will make for a very simple generator. I plan to play with this as well. But I plan to put a piston on each end with the work produced from the linear motion in the center of the two opposing pistons. This makes it easier to seal as you dont have shafts on the compression side of the pistons. Much easier to seal.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking along those lines mate - but you know what folks are like if I had put any electronics in at this stage can you imagine the comments? - it only needs to be net positive out and scavenging some power generated to switch is a nice answer

  • @alaingrignon
    @alaingrignon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob, very interesting stuff. I was going to suggest using magnets as springs but someone already mentioned that, trick is « where » is the best position for them. On the outside of the cylinder might best as it won’t interfere with the current generating magnets inside, and won’t add to the weight of the piston. Which raises another question, if you add magnets to the piston, this will add weight to the piston therefore requiring my air to move, will be interesting to see if the low pressure, high volume you have will be enough or if you will have to modify one of this factors to compensate. Look forward to you coil design as well. Love watching you experiment mate!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol - cheers mate - to be honest I have a few things I need to do and you know how I like to simplify if I can - so still mulling over the springs

  • @toml.8210
    @toml.8210 ปีที่แล้ว

    This generator was used in hand torches. A magnet inside the tube moves inside a coil as you shake, and supposedly recharges a small lithium button battery.
    Unfortunately, if you the torch in your desk drawer or car's glove box, it over-discharges and is useless.

  • @guyward1743
    @guyward1743 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video

  • @chuckdank3869
    @chuckdank3869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can envision a rooftop rotating wind funnel with a vane or fin, that pipes the collected, accelerated and compressed air to your inlet. But then, as discussed in previous videos, turbine or squirrel cage blade designs would also work in that airstream.

  • @rogerbarrett2237
    @rogerbarrett2237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My thought was to put a magnet on the piston rod and hand the coil around it. Would allow you to minimalize the air gap.

  • @olivierroy1301
    @olivierroy1301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if you could use a solenoid on the valve too and actuate it with limit switches instead of swinging these tabs side to side.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      for sure mate

    • @mikeguitar9769
      @mikeguitar9769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recall a TH-cam video where someone made an air-engine and/or steam engine concept out of a two cycle engine. They use some sort of non-contact sensor on the crankshaft to trigger the solenoid valve. The sensor type could be optical or a magnet with an induction coil or reed switch or hall effect sensor.

    • @noobulon4334
      @noobulon4334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Optical or hal sensors would be more durable

  • @threeMetreJim
    @threeMetreJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking about this since watching the last video. There may be a problem in that you lose the ability to have a flywheel, which could be useful for energy storage and smoothing things out. Maybe being able to have a flywheel would outweigh the effect of losses from a crankshaft, and it's parts, to drive a flywheel. Some middle ground hybrid? A Linear alternator, but still using a flywheel as in a traditional engine (could help to overcome 'cogging' in the generator when it's loaded)

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      a flywheel is just an energy store mate - springs would do the same job - but tbh I am aiming at a free piston design

    • @threeMetreJim
      @threeMetreJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I can't help thinking that springs and flywheels are fundamentally different. In the process of this 'thinking' I was trying to come up with a a way to transfer the energy from a linearly moving mechanical part to a flywheel with minimal mechanical losses and came up with a magnetic repulsion device - it would work as a spring and a means of transferring energy between a linear movement and rotary one (flywheel). I also thought that you could just use magnetic repulsion instead of springs, then you could adjust the springiness by using some of the produced energy to work electromagnets as one side of the 'spring' - I know it almost sounds like an impossible 'perpetual motion' device, but you wouldn't need so much energy for the 'springs' if most of the energy had already been extracted in a linear alternator, already reducing the amount of work the 'springs' would need to do. You would probably get a distance squared relationship compression 'spring' instead of a linear one.

    • @threeMetreJim
      @threeMetreJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Further checking, and it is the inverse fourth power between magnets.

  • @jamesduncan5814
    @jamesduncan5814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the idea with the springs. Is it possible to use a hair dryer to help for high volume low pressure to help work things out? Just my thoughts.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought about that but it gets hot - even the cool air version - really don't want to warp anything mate

  • @Buzzhumma
    @Buzzhumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    May i suggest a solar balloon concept for you air supply . Then use your foot or a weight to create the pressure as needed ! You could use a bin bag for starters and create a series of them to create more lenght and volume as needed .

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice one mate - thanks

    • @Buzzhumma
      @Buzzhumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Murray-Smith actually maybe a large yoga excercise ball would be ideal !

  • @deslomeslager
    @deslomeslager 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen one with a magnet in the piston, and magnets on the outside. No need for springs, let the magnets do the job for you.
    PS: have you ever opened up the motorized driver of an air horn (from a car or truck)? If you use it in revers, there you have your generator working on air pressure (no longer linear, but that is not perse needed).

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't looked at that no mate - thanks for the pointer

  • @scotttovey
    @scotttovey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rather than springs to return the piston, determine the amount of space that is needed between the piston and the wall and put a dab of hot melt glue on each side of the piston or on the piston walls, that matches the amount of space needed between the wall and the piston. You could also put an o-ring on each side of the piston that is equal to that thickness.
    Hmm, now that I think about it, an internal spring would have a lower jarring affect and thereby have less vibration.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you could mate - but the spring on the piston doesn't only stop the piston - it acts to create a mechanical oscillator

    • @scotttovey
      @scotttovey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering
      😎👍

  • @peterlang777
    @peterlang777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks fun!

  • @chrisbutler9985
    @chrisbutler9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a thought but could you add or modify the valves so it works on differential air pressures? As it already work with both positive and negative pressures. If you made one side suck as the other blew it could make it more efficient.

  • @peterclancy3653
    @peterclancy3653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use the exhaust of a vacuum cleaner this gives a high volume air flow at fairly low pressure

  • @aomanchutube
    @aomanchutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh that laugh! It's just great!

  • @mikeguitar9769
    @mikeguitar9769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Motor design can get surprisingly technical if you want good performance. there used to be a spreadsheet on Instructables.com for linear motor design that seem to me like a good starting point.
    Start with a cylinder material that is as thin as possible and not electrically conductive or magnetic. Use as strong magnet as you can, at least neodymium N42.
    The basic design uses a cylinder magnet that is axially magnetized and with an iron disc pole pieces on each end to redirect the magnetic field radially.
    A winding is usually fairly thin magnet wire on the order of 100 turns to get decent voltage. You might even want two windings, one on each pole. The motor travel is usually fairly short for good efficiency. Similar to a loudspeaker, the motor works on the Lorenz force principle where the motion, magnetic field, and current are all orthogonal to each other. The motion is in the axial direction , the magnetic field is in the radial direction, and the current is in the circumferential direction.
    For good power output and efficiency ideally the reciprocating frequency is 50 to 60 Hz or higher. Although if you don’t mind higher materials cost you can still get more power output at lower frequencies by adding more poles.

  • @tdtrecordsmusic
    @tdtrecordsmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I'm curious what ur eventual goal is. I wish there was a more economical way to make a frictionless bearing. Hopefully a frictionless linear bearing. Closest I've came up with is more like a air hockey table which is terrible for weight and un-even steadiness. Then last year, Ben from applied science showed the graphite bearing idea. I just decided to ditch interfaces. So instead of needing a shaft to protrude through a wall using a bearing and a seal. >> just make the motor exist inside so it doesn't need a seal.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's my thought and I would like to do it that way - the idea is to build the Tesla mechanical oscillator running from large volume. low pressure air to generate via prepare techs air/water battery idea

    • @tdtrecordsmusic
      @tdtrecordsmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering oh, ahh , I see. I love how insanely powerful different mediums can be. The power of changing size & scale. One day I was drying an extract & decided to use a plate. The fact that more than a glass of water fits on a typical dinner plate changed my world. I just couldn't get over it. I tried with a plate with deeper sides and woa more than 2 glasses of water. A way to laugh at physics is the hydraulic ram. Car Jack. Which is essentially what I was musing about the dinner plate. The space can be exchanged for force.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tdtrecordsmusic yes - my thought exactly - I don't think peppers idea will have much force per se - but if we exchange that for volume I think we might be able to get usable power

  • @nikbivation
    @nikbivation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on man, what early prototype, I was expecting from the title to be already connected to an electric generator

  • @jasonwitt8619
    @jasonwitt8619 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know those super rubber balls you get out of the coin machines, well that might just work as a good enough spring.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that is an idea I really like. mate - cheers

    • @jasonwitt8619
      @jasonwitt8619 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering LOL, trying to think outside the box. Would be cool to see how well they work being your setup is lightweight, it wouldn't add too much more weight to it really. Cheers Robert, and I like the setup so far, was a good job on that build.

  • @azlandpilotcar4450
    @azlandpilotcar4450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    James Watt couldn't use a crankshaft -- there was an intervening patent that prevented it for his earliest rotating motion engines. He used a sun-and-planet gear system instead.

  • @RandomSmith
    @RandomSmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    would a hair drier/vacuum cleaner/inflator have enough puff/suck, do demonstrate the engine?

  • @CUBETechie
    @CUBETechie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Casimir effect could he be used in this case?

  • @borisk6969
    @borisk6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could your Tesla turbine you produced a few years ago provide adequate airflow? Great video, as always

  • @davidespigolon8170
    @davidespigolon8170 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you share the project for 3d printer?

  • @CUBETechie
    @CUBETechie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you positionate it not horizontal but vertical?

  • @Opel_Guy
    @Opel_Guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of using springs to help start pushing the piston, how about using magnets set up to repel each other. One on the piston and one piston body. Obviously have this on each end.

  • @jimmacaulay844
    @jimmacaulay844 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You keep calling it an air engine. But it should be called an air motor, because you're converting mechanical energy to mechanical energy - no conversion at all! An engine is defined as a device that converts one type of energy to another type, such as chemical to mechanical. I learned this in engineering school back in the 70's.

  • @toml.8210
    @toml.8210 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a good thing you gave up smoking?

  • @tigranavemian803
    @tigranavemian803 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not think that linear motion electric generator can produce enough power. Reciprocation significantly slows down the process and therefore reduces the energy. It looks like turning is the best on terms of generating the power.

  • @justinromang9113
    @justinromang9113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVELEY tis what I was wondering previous vid AWESOME (don`t use "that" word lightly).
    CHEERS to ENGEIEIERS🤣🤩...
    ..again - Thank You..
    Merry 1st Aug - ALL Swissies (CH).

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol - engineering rocks mate

    • @justinromang9113
      @justinromang9113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering
      yea - apprenticeship on Landrover (Switzerland), before "they" left.
      All the best. Cheers.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, i heard of these, but I never understood, what linears are, and how do you generate them? Ha-ha, sorry it's been a long hot long and HOT day, did I mention HOT! I think I'm dehydrated, it's about 95° American here, and the humidity isn't far behind! it rained twice yesterday, about 25mm, or 1", then the hot sun, this should be the most efficient, less loss, if the windings to magnets spacing, ratio and all is optimal, I guess is what I'm attempting to say, I told you I'm on verge of being dehydrated, my brain is clicking insted of ticking, haha.. Maybe this is something I should look into, to be powered by steam, I'd be totally happy with 500 watts, for 24-36 hours at a stretch, with steam suplimented by concentrated solar, generating small amounts of steam , just enough to power the device. Keeping it going, with a wood boiler for power w/o sun,
    If 500watts continuous is possible why stop there, 2500 watts, all day, would be about all I could use! Rambling again I know, sorry!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not sure mate - did you say it was hot lol - just put coils around the case and magnets on the piston - or if you like magnets on the end of the piston shaft and a coil around that -keep cool dude lol

  • @ThailandAmazing
    @ThailandAmazing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I could build a water tower, pump water up when there is plenty, let it work making power when not, I guess this could work with water ?¿??

  • @martynjones973
    @martynjones973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah ok so solar or wind power peltier thermo electric cooling air and then use that as stored energy back though your air engine 👍

  • @pulesjet
    @pulesjet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Progresses being made.

  • @mikeladd5880
    @mikeladd5880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use your hairdryer in cold mode

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it still gets warm mate and I am reluctant to warp anything

  • @M.W.C.Escape
    @M.W.C.Escape 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does Pic mean? Also hi

  • @hissst69
    @hissst69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fun :)

  • @photonicmartin5832
    @photonicmartin5832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the piston was a magnet and the cylinder d be a copper roll?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I said that in the video didn't I?

    • @photonicmartin5832
      @photonicmartin5832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok did nt catch that one. Cool.

    • @photonicmartin5832
      @photonicmartin5832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok. I was writing this while you said it. So mindlike .love that.

    • @photonicmartin5832
      @photonicmartin5832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now make it a loop pipe with many copper rolls and piston mags that repulses eachother and a one way gate so you move on magnet and all the other does move.

  • @huckfin1100
    @huckfin1100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useing power to make power just isn't that smart !

  • @sigurdurhalldorsson2775
    @sigurdurhalldorsson2775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool