The "Money Making Mushroom'" That Nobody Can Actually Grow? (The Mushroom Show Episode 12)
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- Morel mushrooms are impossible to grow... right? Not entirely. Because the process was actually patented way back in 1986. And for a time, the rights to growing this mushroom were exclusively owned by Dominos Pizza. In this episode of The Mushroom Show, we're unravelling the mystery of morel cultivation, trying to answer the question of why one of the most desired mushrooms in the world is still only really found in the wild. We're also covering a few pieces of mushroom news, including a story of scientists who discovered a way to make mushroom leather that regrows when damaged, and how athletes are turning to mushrooms for mental health. Finally, we're interviewing Del Jolly and Jessica David, co-chairs of The Mushroom Summit, which is a conference dedicated to the future of functional mushrooms.
#themushroomshow #morels #functionalmushrooms
0:00 Intro
0:42 Mycelium Leather That Regrows??
2:51 Athletes and Mushrooms
5:18 The Mysteries Of Morel Cultivation
16:06 The Mushroom Summit
Links:
Mycelium Leather:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...
Athletes and Mushrooms:
www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/...
Morels:
patents.google.com/patent/US4...
apnews.com/article/9d1e5291ea...
thedanishmorelproject.com/the... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I would have titled this episode "The Morel Dilemma".
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A missed opportunity that now forever lives on the net...
"The Morel Dilemma: Elusive Fungi and the Frustration of Aspiring Mushroom Millionaires".
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I did some morrel liquid cultures into jars and they got moldy so I buried them in the garden over winter. Spring came and they fruited anyways. Kinda cool. Definitely couldn’t make it happen again if I tried.
Mushrooms are fungi. So are molds. Did you mean to say it was contaminated by unwanted molds or bacteria cus otherwise it sounds like you did it right!
@@AmandaComeauCreates Excellent point thank you for pointing that out! I think they got contaminated with bacteria. But yes they still fruited so that’s a win! This also worked for reishi
@@AmandaComeauCreates , Finding mold in your cultures is definitely contamination. Unless you were trying to grow that particular mold in culture.
Maybe thats the problem with industrial farming of morels. They do everything with this insane level of sanitation and sterilization. Morels need an ECOSYSTEM to succeed. They need that "contamination" to encourage them to compete for nutrients and multiply. Natural processes aren't sterile.
I am a beekeeper and my bees grew morels around their yard, 2 years in a row. I didn't know or even hardly eat mushrooms before this. Now I spend engery learning about mushrooms and learning all I can from those bees. Morels found me. I like honey mushrooms better.
Thank you for another informative and interesting video, Tony!
Always happy to talk about morels
Very informative, thanks. Some of the comments on your channel are wild, man.
nice show as always man
🍄 Chinese have been growing them ( Morels ) for several years.🍄
I watched a mushroom lecture here on youtube some months ago. when the lecturer got to the subject of morels, he said he had worked with a Chinese farm company that had developed a reliable process for growing them. Apparently morels feed off of the bacteria that decompose various types of plant matter, and different species prefer the bacteria from different trees/plants. They like keeping their food storage structure, and their mushrooms, pretty far from their food source. This Chinese company would inoculate the bare ground, water it, and put out bags of (wet?) straw with holes on the bottom near the innoculated pathways.
I discovered a few videos about the chinese companies two years back and also another one on the step by step process. If you are or someone else is interested, here's the links. Looks very sucessfull what they're doing and pretty much exactly what you've described.
th-cam.com/video/Ff7J0HCmr8I/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ySSBi5B04Ak/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/cGpLW5vfsRs/w-d-xo.html
I am pretty sure I saw a video Chinese farm and one could sit down and harvest morels like button mushrooms. Maybe I find this video again...
I found the video. th-cam.com/video/8TNm24gcAAc/w-d-xo.html
There is even more information out there: th-cam.com/video/Ff7J0HCmr8I/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/EraN_hrqv9Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=%E5%86%9C%E4%B8%9A%E8%87%B4%E5%AF%8C%E7%BB%8FAgricultureAndFarming
Morels are amazing. I love having morels in the freezer all year long. But i do sell some to pay for gas and supplies. Getting 50 a pound.
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I live in Boyne City, Michigan, which for decades has held a Morel Mushroom Festival that attracts devotees from around the nation and even around the world. Your comment that morels can fetch as much as $5 to $20 a pound made me laugh - they go for $45 to $65 a pound here and have not sold for as little as $20 a pound since the 1990s. Local restaurants serve varied dishes featuring morels and the town goes crazy for them for an entire week. Enjoyed your video otherwise, though. Perhaps commercial cultivation will bring the price down... but I doubt it.
Now I know a while back when I was diving through mushroom videos I was watching a cultivation interview and in the background of the interview they had racks and racks and racks of these moral mushrooms growing, I know that because that put them on my list of mushrooms to cultivate.
Dutch morel project I think is the name of the very successful project growing them repeatedly.
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I remember picking these delicious boyos with my dad back when i was a kid. Would get grocery bag fulls. Had no idea they were this super expensive delicacy.
Going into nature and picking mushrooms is healthy and enjoyable, plus you get a great variety.
I've seen prices online for morels selling for $375 per pound of fresh mushrooms. I just saw a gigantic one online, that weighed very close to one and a half pounds. That was just the head or cap. It was huge.
I knew a guy that owned a christmas tree farm and he would cut a circle around the stumps and shake burlap sacks of morels around them. It worked so well that once word got around he had to install a barbed wire fence and floodlights to stop thieves
Im just gettin starting with researching this. I plan on going to the summit as im in the area. Id like to grow a few different kinds but haven't decided how id like to
Been experimenting growing Morels for some time. Be interesting to watch!
Awesome to hear! Any luck so far?
@@FreshCapMushrooms very limited success so far, to be honest! Next attempt will be using rye grainspawn with viable rye seeds that'll hopefully root in the substrate. Will try a few different techniques to induce pinning 🤞
Looking forward to watching this later. Keep the great content coming dude!
@@gnosisdocumentaries4481 Consider spawning to substrate than freeze for a few days and thaw for a day and refreeze the substrate a couple times. Than put in fruiting chamber
@@tvviewer4500 also check the bacteria, beneficial ones are super nb, also the plant is important. we should all correspond. its too hoty were i live but im gonna make a passive cooling system
The Chinese seem to know how: th-cam.com/video/8TNm24gcAAc/w-d-xo.html
I've been eating cultivated/farmed morels for a few years now. Didn't they manage to do it in Sichuan back in 2012? I know there are a lot sold in Australia too.
Great video thx. Does enyone know if there is a way to culivate them outdoors?
My method is to wait for spring to come, then crawl through every mulch bed in the city. Three morels just on a walk to the grocery store today. :)
Have you checked out schedule 35? Super interesting! Even if it's just to see how it's surviving as a company in US/CA!
the fact you can patent a process for how an organism grows is fucking hilarious
I have heard through the grapevine, It can be disputed fairly cheaply after grant then tougher after that. The right to sue is what it gives you.
I just got two patents. One is wiping your ass behind your back and the other is wiping your ass through your legs. I’m going to be rich as freshcap
whats crazier if you grow it with out permission you can be sued for it.
Going foraging for the first time in a couple of days!
Best of luck! You are going to love it.
Mine cycled through the first week of April here in N.Arkansas. They were actually nearer 10 days behind schedule.
I read a long time ago about mixed media substrate with nutrition spikes that can be pulled out to force fruiting.
Dont know were ur buying them morchellas fresh at but betwween kansas city and lincon Nebraska there going for 60 a pound
Little scratches and tears can happen with keys or something, so the leather stuff is nice so you dont have to replace leather as often.
Oh my god help me mushrooms have infiltrated my mind now I eat them every day, get them in extracts, and gonna make tinctures soon!
Is the mushroom conference going to be streamed on anything
Sclerotia is a stage in our favorite species as well. It's basically a fruiting body that's underground.
I swear if people stop killing gophers.
Dry land fish grow everywhere in Ky. when they are in season I can pick a 5 gallon bucket in a day
"You wouldn't want mushrooms growing from your leather couch."
Speak for yourself.
Grow your movie night snacks right where you sit
The sproting seeds 👀release energy then slowly take it away seems to triggering of fruiting bodies an intresting trait development, ive seen some strains need casings but a living biological trigger is a neat trick to figure out
Sounds like over my six decades here there’s a patent office viper squad.
Patent something the establishment frowns on you have to hide out.
Nice
I'm making a morel slurry today!
I have wild morels on my property and I tried to grow some last year to no avail. These grew up out of where an old White Oak tree fell, rotted, and started growing after the area burned off in a forest fire.
Morels from my place in my avatar right now.
why not clear a fake fire just like forest fire. And then see if it works or not?
@@anirbandasgupta5372 I will probably try that in late winter next year.
There’s the answer it’s the re new process from fire I’ve seen them after a major forest fire there was also new grass lots of new growth. This was back in the early 80s after the fire actually changed minds as the forest was re growing from the burn.
@@ericmothman7107 Yeah, fires "wake up" things like what was hiding in the layers of the forest's floor. Also for other things the new sunlight supply after a fire gets them going. Where these morels on my place are it hasn't been so shady since the fire. I did plant a couple dozen Sawtooth Oak trees in the area though and the entire area is still leaf covered from surrounding trees. Some of the Sawtooth Oak are nearly twenty feet tall.
They sell from $30-$50 a lb, here in Ks.
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this channel feels like a joke but I feel compelled to watch
I thew some dried up morals under a 8-10" diameter half dead elm. I had recently covered the ground under the tree with woodchips from dog exercise areas. After I tossed the dried up mushrooms I whacked the trunk with my shovel enough to lodge it into the tree. The next year 10 grew like eggs in a egg carton. I picked half hoping they would returned the following year. They never came back
Im from himalyas and they grow here when it’s thunder and it rains. The next 2 days. Mushroom pops in moist areas. Near river.
Every year i eat like 8.
Im thinking of trying slurry would it work tho I don’t know 🤷♂️
I take all things into consideration, having said that... when I was a kid we had a bad winter and there was a lot of cinders leftover on the roads, spring came walked to neighbors to go hunting but ended up finding them growing literally on the road in the cinders... please share if you have done the same
Gramco fungi in Australia cracked the code for growing morels
There is a huge one growing in the woodchip pathway down the shady east side of my shed! Just from rotting wood. etc.
Figure out how to replicate that and you’ll be rich 🤣
Black merels grow on my property every year.
The only thing I can think of is that the purpose and who owned the property prior to my purchasing the property was researching medical processes.
In plants
self healing leather would be pretty cool for all kinds of submersible and aircraft.
why comments has been removed? is it chanel where is some problem with exchange info?
$25 a pound! A couple of weeks ago I paid $30 for half a pound and that's pretty normal around here
Probably depends on where you live and the availability. Some places 25 bucks an hour wage is huge, some places that’s a crappy job.
40 bucks a pound here in iowa
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I need this video
Thanks for being here!
You almost gave away my secret! 🤯
Btw, fresh morels sell for anywhere from $30-$60 per lb with an average of about $45 per lb during peak season. I haven't seen them for $25 per lbs since before the latest round of convid inflation
Interesting to hear the price difference! Maybe it depends on location?
Also, now I must know your secret hahaa
Would you be willing to do an interview on their show? I would love to hear from you (and others who are competent but not necessarily famous
).
By sell: the pickers get 5-8$/lb, highest was 25$/lb a few yrs ago, and lasted for a day, now if by "sell" you mean in the store, or a market, yes, they can sell there from 25-60$/lb. He is referencing what a picker gets. And as I have been buying from pickers for over 15yrs, I know.
@@FreshCapMushrooms The very word "secret" indicates I'm not sharing my process 🤷♂️, but you touched on a very important aspect of inducing the mycelium to fruiting.
The main thing is the nutrients that are found in the natural habitat that the mycelium is able to consume and deliver throughout the ecosystem. I'm currently working with some new ideas that I've never read or heard of being done, so I'm kind of excited about the results I've already gotten.
I'm still fine tuning it, but when I get it dialed in to consistent yields. Once I do, I'm probably gonna have to find a --good lawyer-- unicorn
In Australia $125 per kilo
Notice monetary incentive slows progress. Valuable Information must must be hoarded by 4 people instead of shared freely for all. What if they are in a car/plane crash? I'm not saying they shouldn't be greatly rewarded for their efforts/contributions, just saying money makes for very bad incentive structures.
Ahh yes, good old human nature. Now you see what makes capitalism so effective. You’re learning, good job!
The place where I work I'm called Mr. Mushroom because I'm usually in the dark about things going on and I'm fed BS when I enquire what's going on.
People have been growing morels for quite a while, like a few decades. At least here in Missouri they have.
I collected about 3lb last year and ground them up with crappy saw dust and water and dumped them in an area full of rotting woodchips and very old mulch... this year morels are popping up all throughout this area.. but I doubt I'll reach the 3lb I put in it.. who knows it's still early. Sort of feels like a waste ATM but if I don't disturb the area maybe more will come year by year
As a pet owner, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE a couch that I could "spritz" once a month or so, and have it "heal" from my cat's attentions!! 😼
Ditto for so many clothes of my own. Or kids jackets? Or .... SO MUCH!!🤩
Hope it becomes reality soon 😁🤞🤞
not good for business perspective. I am not selling you a new couch ar cloth. So it will be expensive in the first place
notice the sheet the guy was holding up. other then the discoleration, it heales small pinpricks, not that tear in the side
Who can help fix potholes in our roads with mushrooms 🍄???
Just asking
I bet someone is working on this!
Where do that word come from..😂 potholes.
If they managed to grow only a small amount of mushrooms, the operation was unsuccessful.
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Till you spill your drink or have a sweaty ass😅
So... these grow like dandelions in my backyard. I can walk out at any time in the summer and grab 20-30
That’s lucky but not the point of the video. The point is about cultivation.
No you can not. First, they only grow in the early spring,
There might be some majical charm.
I’m going to go ahead and challenge you on how cool it would be to have a couch that grew morels 😂
Asian people are already cultivating morel with a special technique, they show it in videos but obviously they don’t tell the secret…
There's a lot of potential in psychedelics, I can't wait to try any of them mushroom specifically but it's just so hard to find a reliable source over here, l'll be glad if anyone can be of help
I've tried a lot and since the first time i tried it, I said "it's a crime against humanity to make psychedelic illegal"
tripping is not a bad idea but having a Mycologist who will recommend you the dosage is the best option
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@@AllenRobert-oe6ox where can I find him? Is it on IG
$700 a pop for mushroom summit? Dang....
Very nice video man 👍
Honestly i was able to survive depression, also my strong addiction to illicit drugs over three years which could have been medically dangerous to quit, all thanks to Psilocybin mushrooms
had same experience, LSD saved my life
how can i get it? Really difficult to locate here
@@citizenx303 dr.frierson
@@chrissanti4856 Thanks
Switching addictions, neat
Morels appear in the lawn in my apple and plum orchard by accident.
I was getting $20 per pound for chanterelles, morels gotta be worth more
We sell best quality morels from Himalayas .. but don’t know how can i export to Europian and American
Jacob and Karsten Kirk, twins from Copenhagen, say they have figured out growing morels.
Oops...I should've watched the entire video before commenting.
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Okay but is this also the answer for indoor cultivation of p. Azzys????
No.
This 100% does NOT surprise me on publications. As a contract researcher I would say 95%+ of publications I am given to duplicate are BS.
They intentionally have left out steps to keep competitors (for grants or whatever) from duplicating,
just didn't do enough N to figure out it REALLY doesn't work,
worse- they CHERRY picked experiments that worked and misrepresented what it actually took and success rate (took 40 reps to get results but only 6 worked- and only reported those 6 and omitted rest "conveniently""),
blatant misrepresentation /falsification.
There really is someone obsessed and dedicated to anything on the internet...
I just think why people can't figure it out to just use nature to facilitate it.
Probably one big issue is people tend to kill gophers and ground burrowing critters.
i wonder if that mycelium leather would make good lightweight bullet proof armor because its like chitin.
2:35 😎 totally make good armor.
Mushroom spores are made of a similar substance to insect wings, like that if a dragonflies.
We have plenty of this morels in our village here in India! Can anyone help me sell it? I can’t find international buyers!
My grocery store sells them for 50 dollars a pound fresh in season
Morel grow kits came out a decade ago!
I put out five kits and nothing, but they also may take a couple years to develop. Too hot and dry, I covered them the spawn in wheat straw in the shade of pine trees. I did do frequent ground wetting though. This was a variety that grows in the Pacific Northwest Evergreen stands.
Has anyone noticed the swiss brothers names are captain Kirk and checkov from Star Trek
I was considering buying some to throw in the back yard. Maybe one day they pop up, that would be cool. Wouldn’t get my hopes up but no harm in trying.
looks like the danish brothers are growing the chinese variety which are more amenable to cultivation, considering the chinese guys have been doing it for decades in outdoor beds/greenhouses
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More like $35 to $50 a pound. In Indiana any way
Exogenous nutrition.. in nature.. one way that could happen is root exomes.. and that happens when you get thunderstorms or otherwise get a foliar feed.. that causes the roots of plants to release sugars and nutrients. Maybe that has something to do with it? You mentioned burn areas in nature..maybe that's a key take away from the nutrition? I think there's a trick in this dynamic. Just theorizing.
Fires also signal lower competition when they spore out. Lots of reasons why morels are picky. But the fact they organize their reproductive and resource collecting parts separately would indicate to me that its ability to lay in wait for those opportunities is probably why it's so successful
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Morels are selling for sixty per pound near my house 😳 Where the hell are y'all getting them for $20/lb?
I'm trying to learn about functional mushrooms but every episode seems to be about psychedelics. I'm not interested in tripping. Only health.
i wish they would have called it “fungal engineered living textile” so it would be FELT
Domino!!!
i wonder if white truffels are realy that hard to grow, anyone else wonder what the ratio of people who pronounce fungi as funji is compared to a file labeled as .gif do jif... the fun gus is amun gus. Side note whats up with pizza joints? dominoes patented the process during the same time kale is being pushed world wide as a health fad when before the marketing pizza hut was the largest purchaser only to use it to line the buffet tubs
I haven't watched this yet but how can anyone patent a way to grow plants/mushrooms/animals? Sounds like someone could patent a way to brush the teeth..
Supply and demand. The more they produce the cheaper they'll have to sell it for
I paid $40 for 1 lbs of morels!