@@sunshine23.141 People like these never learn. They will be there come election time voting for Trump because they are scared of socialism (just don't mention the subsides the government gave them) because people might think that is socialism.
How many foreigners can purchase Chinese businesses and or even invest in China without losing their intellectual property rights, trade secrets, and taking their total profit outside of China? No, it is asymmetrical relationship between China and Australia.
Don't worry dude, farmers will get subsidized from Trump, temporarily during the trade war. They won't go broke. The most important is the jobs. Unemployment rate keeps falling down and now it's at the lowest in 50 years, dude! Once the US wins this trade war, farmers will get back to their business, even more prosperous business.
Juragan C how much do you know about business? The farmers are at the end of the day in business deals with private buyers in China. These farmers aren’t going to have their deals with their Chinese buyers snap back, as soon as Trump announces a “genius big brain deal”. These agreements between farmers and buyers are complex and sometimes takes years to cultivate. These farmers have US businessmen go to China and cultivate relationships for them... once those Chinese buyers establish a deal with a Brazilian farmer, they’re not going to to just return to the US farmer, after leaving them because of instability. The farmers in Brazil, Argentina, Ghana etc... aren’t going to give up their chinese buyers, they’re going to match whatever the price the American farmers are charging. And trust me, the Brazilian and Ghanaian farmers can always go cheaper than American farmers, bc their living standard is cheaper and they barely pay their workers. The US farmers have lost their buyers forever, they’ll have to find new buyers. In any regard, this trade dispute was probably just a good reason for China to leave the US farmers anyway, there are cheaper farmers in other countries now and previously it might’ve been hard to dump the US farmers for political reasons, but this gave them an easy out, to cheaper market. And.... No the Chinese don’t care about organic farming or ethical pay for workers. They’re totally ok with buying from farmers around the world who don’t pay their workers fairly and use pesticides.
The problem is US keep have the mentality to ruin China or Chinese. As a rational person, basically you can’t really rely the food supply on a country that have that hostile attitude
@@unclechinsyou8555 You may be right, since he might not get elected next year. By the way, blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1795128 is amazing web site. Thank you.
Is America no longer the world’s foremost indispensable nation? Are trade wars really easy to win? Why not win trade, instead of wars? Here are some interesting stats: In 2006, China was the number one trading partner of 70 countries and regions, while the figure for the US is 127. By 2011, China and the US nearly switched positions, with China becoming the top trading partner of 124 countries and regions, as the figure for the US dropped to 76. In terms of the number of trading ports in operation, China boasts 227 against America’s 26, noting that 7 of the world’s top 10 busiest ports are located in China. Measured by industrial output in USD, China overtook the US in 2014, matching the combined weight of the US, Japan and Germany who placed 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively. PPP adjusted, China’s gross industrial output surpassed that of the USA, by more than a factor of 2.5. This begs the question in the world’s minds: Will China collapse like Japan or the Soviet Union did in the 90s? The answer in short: No, because Japan was already in the advanced stage of economic development by the 80s, when the former USSR peaked as the only Cold War superpower broadly rivaling the USA in every field. China today is an emerging power at a vastly different stage of development relatively speaking, being neither an advanced economy nor a peaking superpower that has reached maturity. In any case, the United States ironically fits all the conditions of Japan prior to decades of stagnation and the Soviets on the eve of an epic collapse, having outlived itself as an advanced superpower in the highly matured stage of development. The prevailing market sentiment is still however, in opposition to betting against the USA. Is this a blessing or a curse?
qi lai Have you noticed that Trump is perpetually trying to get us into a war with Iran? He says the Saudi’s will pay us big bucks. So our boys can die for the Saudi’s. But that’s OK for you.
@@maxten Now i see why some people in US are so hostile. You believe in FAKE NEWS. I cannot see China starting any actual wars, but I see lots of actual wars in middle east started by US. People easily forget, right?
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I’m so glad China knew exactly where to hit the US where it counts. You guys started the fight, you supported the fight, so you hv to bear the consequences, unfortunately.
Politics over Country, really? The profit ceiling for Farmers was lowered when the most recent China trade deal was signed. The goal of the new deal is to raise that ceiling. Every business has risk involved, political risk is inherent when you start a business. If the new China trade deal happens, will you enjoy the savings on groceries you will see? Will you be happier that American farmers will have more resources to put into their business to create a better product?
@@logicalrealist3091 I'm not American - nor PRC - so it is neither politics nor country. Just the same, I am as affected by this trade war as anyone else. But it is clear as day, the economic war on China is started by the American government, and widely supported by Americans. So if you guys suffer economically as a result you can always go to the polls and show that you want a resumption of trade, not war. However, if you choose to fight, do wake up to the fact that while you are hurting China, you are also hurting yourselves and everyone else. And that the US may not win this one.
Americans largely started a fight first by the 2016 election. They voted in someone that is not smart and really doesn't know what is going on in the world. That John Deere in the background is the same tractor that is shipped around the world to other farms that have land and produce the same things they produce in America. The farmers work hard and have lower costs often. When the last president started a trade war China simply shifted where they buy products to South America and a few other places. What I don't understand is why this simple truth hasn't been laid out there in the news for people to understand.
@@MikeCnolan yes and now the rest of the world sits back and watches their stupidity with amazement. No surprise that there is no sympathy for either US Farmers or Ranchers
China signed a 200 BILLION dollar deal this past Spring w Russia to ramp up 5 crops production (including soybeans). Russian expects to be up to speed by 2024. Trump’s helped Russian farmers a lot. Our farmers are getting welfare. People on the Southside of Chicago would say they desire goods jobs over welfare too
Plus take into account the that all crops in Russia are mandated to follow the clean program of non gmo. The USA'S market is going to shrink as more markets shut out the gmo crops
USA market can be easily replaced. China was pushed to find another country or countries. Even if they do sign, the relationship and trust has been damaged. Their new partnership is building a trusting relationship knowing USA wants it back.
That’s just it “one tweet could kill decades of relationships”. I wonder who she’s referring to there? She even said the people they elected to lead, meaning they voted for the liar. Down with trump.
You don't know that and if they did they voted under the presumption that the Pres would have protected them. I grew up in rual farm Midwest and this breaks my heart.
(As a non American and lets say not so much of a Trump fan) The regulations that the democratic party wants to put on american farmers (comparably low to european standards) would break many farms necks just as mich as trumps childish trade war. so no matter who they would have voted they got what they voted for.
@@herbertlandschmid3012 not childish china is literally trying to get world domination. I dont get how people can still be ignorant to the fact that china is evil.
That’s silly. Food prices fluctuate dramatically especially in these industries. They will purchase whatever goods make financial sense to purchase, including US goods when the chinese government stops putting tariffs on them.
I love how in one breath the woman complains about the EPA not doing enough to protect their ethanol gravy train, then the very next question claims she's not looking for a handout. Lady, ethanol needs those EPA special treatments precisely because it's economically a failure, and studies have blown the environmental benefit myth out of the water...it's actually WORSE than fossil fuels when you include land-use changes in the calculations.
@@sterlingmarshel6299 Riiiiight. She receives corporate welfare in the form of ethanol mandates, RINs and other favors from the government, and isn't simply expressing her personal interest and looking for a handout. Sterling, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Use the corn to feed people instead of cars. In the world a lot of hungry people can afford corn not car. The US farmers(some of them are very rich) are no different, it all comes down dollars and cents, profit and lost. The victims are the consumer. Your president he know exactly what he is doing, he and his daughter used to bought and sold a lot of Chinese made consumer goods.(shirts brand under his own name and her daughter' fashion brand, are all Made in China). Take coal for instance, I don't think there are a lot of countries still using coal as fuel. Where is he going to sell the coal to? He said there is no climate change! A lot of his decisions doesn't make any sense.
Notice how they didn't raise their hand when he asked how many of U have received corporate welfare & yes I said corporate welfare cuz that's what it is.
Your question is confusing. China pays the market price like anyone else, and different countries have taken advantage depending on the specific product (e.g. Brazil and soybeans).
@@Hyperpandas if you insult a customer they have a right not to come back and do business with you. China just toke there business elsewhere. E.g Brazil for soybean.
Don't worry dude, farmers will get subsidized from Trump, temporarily during the trade war. They won't go broke. The most important is the jobs. Unemployment rate keeps falling down and now it's at the lowest in 50 years, dude! Once the US wins this trade war, farmers will get back to their business, even more prosperous business.
@Miller Time I guess when they were explaining that they were not breaking even and that some neighbors lost their farms that to you said we love what Trump is doing lol
@@juraganc7420 what part of it took us 3 decades to build relationships with china that we are losing through a tweet from the idiot in charge is misterious to you? They won't get it back China is going elsewhere
This is what happens when you Do not talk to the people who These tariffs are effecting and just do it. As a California I grew up on agriculture and know tariffs can have a deep impact on American farmers when this war is over it does not mean they will start buying product again from America when they can get it from other countries cheaper and more reliable The POTUS does NOT get that
With respect to these farmers and what they do, it's ironic to have a group of multi millionaires talking about a struggling period due to a trade war initiated by their own country.
Oh for crying out loud....THEY DID, DECADES AGO and our politicians went along with it for huge "donations" to their own personal "foundation charities". Jeeze people, get past the 2 minute bitching seminar and LEARN SOMETHING for once.
Farmers and bankers both desire to be fully compensated when things are going well, and fully protected when things go badly. The idea of using petroleum to ethanol only works in a subsidized economy, without the subsidies ethanol would not be competitive. The same farmer that wants to sell corn to produce ethanol fights the wind industry.
Well, good luck to find another 1.4 billion people that want and can afford your product. As to Japan, let’s put it in this way- don’t hold your breath.
US and China has been in a very close relationship in terms of culture, education, trade, tourism, counter terrorism... for decades No one expected current US elected president just suddenly ruin the precious relationship and put both sides in a very hostile situation. Ordinary people like most of us should not blame on each other, they should elected a much more wiser leader instead of a businessman who treat the citizens like the employees.
Wow you sound like CCP leadership who emphasizes win-win above all else but conveniently forget that there is no such thing as win win. As China is getting stronger economically and militarily with each passing day US will inevitably lose. Nothing can change that period.
The lady that said this is not a chess match is the smartest clear eyed one of the group. She nailed it when she said China is building up their infrastructure elsewhere. China Is building up infrastructure in Africa BIG time they have deals throughout on the VERY richest land in the world for farming.
Farmers are heavily subsidized and ethanol creates artificial demand. Oil and gas is under the same pressures of trade deals. Diversify the customer, limit debt and invest more prudently. The fact soybean supplies haven't been disrupted means it was an over saturated market.
Are they actually farmers or professional farmer spokesman, their command of the english language is much better than your average college graduates, which is sad.
A lot of state universities have agriculture courses that teach better farming techniques and business courses. Iowa State Univerty is one and my alma mater Washington State University is another. It's a stereotype that farmers are dumb. Also some farmers also work another job. One of my friend's family owns a bar. Another friend the father was a surgeon and mom was a nurse.
Working in a farm requires brains as much as brawn. It requires overcoming problems constantly, be it the crops side, the market side, new technologies. Having a degree in farming gives them an advantage. That’s why they are able to spew out all the jargon you hear in this interview.
Well elections have consequences, not to put salt on the wound, but in life you always reap what you sow. I couldn't find a better analogy to describe this situation. it's really painful and the lady was right Rallies and tweets won't solve their problems. it's nice to have these good talk but by the end of the day what do you have to show for? and that's a key question. People don't realize that China is the second biggest economy in the world and the third largest army in the world China is not a small country. although the Administration specifically the White House has been portrayed that has an easy some game. today we are seeing a complete opposite. Having said that the Genie is already out of the bottle let's hope that they can find a quick solution.
2:56 it hurts me to see this poised woman getting emotional. Her decades of hard-work was ruined by a single tweet. What's worse, they were given false promise and elected a liar. Imagine how hopeless and helpless it must be for her ! These hands-on, hard-working farmers should be on the trade commission of the executive branch, not the lobbyist !!
🤦🏻♂️ Sorry, but this ethanol as eco-fuel myth has got to end soon, and the required watering down of fuel that goes with it! Take the hit, get on with the next thing. 🤷♂️
So they need those payouts to make ends meet. What about the other people in the country impacted by these ridiculous tariffs? It's disheartening to hear farmers act like they are the one with a burden. Most of these farmers voted for this president. Sorry but you got what you asked for.
That is America talking, " a tweet can destroy what the farmers have built over decades" on & off trade wars have very long term effects. starting trade wars and then throwing farmers subsidies is extraordinarily foolish ...
"we need to build that middle class somewhere else" she said US build China's middle class?. You might say "yes because US sent their jobs to China" but even though they did it because they want cheaper things
Giankpetrov Yes it was tactic admission that the US middle class is gone. Yet they still want more trade deals that will continue the destruction of the middle class at home.
Because America pick a fight with someone for the first time who can stand up to them , that empowered other to push back against American bullying I.e European , other Asia countries....
The amazing thing is theres a shortage of pork meat in China right now and these "farmers" is not/unable to do anything all because of the trade war ....
Here is a thought: How about you big farmers change your farming practices to organics, free range, humane farming instead of mass producing meats and grains? You guys have the power to contribute positively to the environment. It’s hard to feel sorry for you, also because you most likely voted for this president.
Sad to see all the hate in these comments. For me, after watching this, I feel for them. I see the humanity and insightfullness of all of us. Clearly they are going through a difficult time and regardless of political affiliation or philosophy, we are people living together in a connected society. I hope they know some of us really do appreciate the work they do.
I am a Chinese. I like these people, the interviewer and the interviewees. That is a reasonable conversation, not some finger-pointing nonsense. I agree China needs to make some changes. I believe the two nations should be partners. I disagree with these China-haters in Washington. Very bad people for the Welfare of the two people's.
I'm just wondering how American farmers survived before China joined the WTO in 2001? Also what they fail to mention is much of the farmed goods are subsidized by the government anyway. When they say they're selling for below cost, that's true, however, what they don't say is they still make a profit because of the subsidies from the U.S. government.
I’m extremely pro agriculture, and pro farmer, but this is REALLY hard to watch as they sit in a barn that is worth two times more than my house, and if front of a pulling tractor that could easily cost $500,000. I’m serious when I say that the tires on the tractor probably cost more than the three vehicles I own. I’d like to be able to afford basic health insurance...as these millionaires moan about the candidate they all voted for.
Anon It is extremely debt heavy, and can be extremely risky. They can carry a tremendous tax burden. But at the same time, no one force them to lease 4,000 acres, and buy new equipment.
Totally agree. I grew up in the 60's and 70's on a farm. I wanted nothing more than to be able to make a living on a small dairy like I grew up on and around. The government under Reagan changed the course of this countries agriculture system, so what we have now is a direct result of that. Trump is merely going to continue this, just on steroids.
vote trump again if you want this tariff war to continue... And hearing that you all are "somewhat" profitable this 2019, you ought to vote trump and keep this war for another 5 years!
Chao you don’t seem to understand that China will ALWAYS take advantage of wholly capitalistic economy if it has top leadership team that are mostly western trained. It is having the best of both worlds. Google Harvard Kennedy school of public administration where they have a dedicated school for producing communist cadres with with world class management methodology.
I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for trump. I do feel bad for people who did not vote for VP trump. With tariffs and trade wars being a farmer is going to be horrible!!!
Anyone using round up is going to get non hodgkin's lymphoma, its sad. Proven in court round up banned in Canada for causing cancer. If your using it now and eating it, dont be surprised. So who could of guessed a corporate socialist bailout was a bad idea? Everyone, no sympathy. You get what you voted for.
a 6 years old would be a better prez than trump, doing nothing is much better than doing harm to out country, like cutting tax for the rich, waging trade war
Farm exports are vital to some US farmers but the US itself , unlike say New Zealand , can survive without being a food exporter. So it isn't actually that big a deal and the farm subsidies need to stop and a lot of US farmers need to find other jobs . NZ doesn't subsidise its farmers. NZ forced thousands of farmers to walk off the land in the 1980s when it stopped all farm subsidies and they are a country where farm products are the nation's biggest and pretty much only export.
Growing subsidized crops like soyboy covered in roundup. If that stops it's not a bad thing. These people are not farmers they are land speculators with huge subsidies.
they have to tighten their belts since they voted for this,business is business it's buy and sell if you agree to sell at a certain price nobody is taking advantage of you
I'm just wondering how many of you farmers voted for this. Feeling the pain now!
Stats say about 75% of farmers in the 'farm belt' voted for trump. So maybe they learned their lesson?
@@sunshine23.141 People like these never learn. They will be there come election time voting for Trump because they are scared of socialism (just don't mention the subsides the government gave them) because people might think that is socialism.
They never learn. Look at California Central Valley. They just re-elected Nunes Cow once again. (Yes this happen last November)
what's the building?the people's heros monument?😂
@Cant_Touch_This ，well said....!!
If these people voted Trump, I don't feel sorry for them.
85% of American farmers voted for trump in 2024
If you stop doing business with someone and your life gets way worst, they weren't taking advantage of you.
EXACTLY
*worse :)
That’s funny ! You were telling the truth . I like it.
These farmers are so BS. China is just a better market but theres various markets to profit from.
Truth
In china people think Australia dairy products is better. 90% Aussie beef is grass fed.
China also has abused Australia and purchased Australian grass fed milk baby formula company and farm lands.
They are called foreign investment...
How many foreigners can purchase Chinese businesses and or even invest in China without losing their intellectual property rights, trade secrets, and taking their total profit outside of China? No, it is asymmetrical relationship between China and Australia.
It IS!
XZ Yin then Chinese people are lied to. 90% is NOT grass fed.
After listening to these farmers, all I can say is that they deserve what's coming to them.
Absolutely agree, they voted for everything they are getting. Why are they whining about it now?
They voted for it, now they’ve got it!
“I don’t care, do you?”
Well said!!!!
Well , the farmers statistically voted for trump so they get what they deserve.
Not anymore in the next election.
Lol make farmers poor again
Don't worry dude, farmers will get subsidized from Trump, temporarily during the trade war. They won't go broke. The most important is the jobs. Unemployment rate keeps falling down and now it's at the lowest in 50 years, dude! Once the US wins this trade war, farmers will get back to their business, even more prosperous business.
Good for them :)
Juragan C how much do you know about business? The farmers are at the end of the day in business deals with private buyers in China. These farmers aren’t going to have their deals with their Chinese buyers snap back, as soon as Trump announces a “genius big brain deal”. These agreements between farmers and buyers are complex and sometimes takes years to cultivate. These farmers have US businessmen go to China and cultivate relationships for them... once those Chinese buyers establish a deal with a Brazilian farmer, they’re not going to to just return to the US farmer, after leaving them because of instability. The farmers in Brazil, Argentina, Ghana etc... aren’t going to give up their chinese buyers, they’re going to match whatever the price the American farmers are charging. And trust me, the Brazilian and Ghanaian farmers can always go cheaper than American farmers, bc their living standard is cheaper and they barely pay their workers. The US farmers have lost their buyers forever, they’ll have to find new buyers. In any regard, this trade dispute was probably just a good reason for China to leave the US farmers anyway, there are cheaper farmers in other countries now and previously it might’ve been hard to dump the US farmers for political reasons, but this gave them an easy out, to cheaper market. And.... No the Chinese don’t care about organic farming or ethical pay for workers. They’re totally ok with buying from farmers around the world who don’t pay their workers fairly and use pesticides.
Allow me to correct the title "Farmers on US trade war." China didnt start this.
Yes they did.
Can we just come up with a fair agreement that benefits both sides
@@jlcork trump started this in his first term, not China
@@user-xy6yj2by3h too late now.President Biden did not remove trump tariffs so China and other countries made alternative arrangements
WELL SAID!!!!
The impact will be long term. China is diversifying their sources and increasing their food independence.
I agree everywhere they agree buying farm products there , they also get their order from their producst selling also, win-win situation.
The problem is US keep have the mentality to ruin China or Chinese. As a rational person, basically you can’t really rely the food supply on a country that have that hostile attitude
@@unclechinsyou8555 You may be right, since he might not get elected next year. By the way, blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1795128 is amazing web site. Thank you.
What is lost will never be back or not as before. Good Luck to them
@@fatherfred3946 you'll be surprised lol
I just wonder if Mr. Obama was in office would these farmers be so patient and agreeable?
Obama?He will fight with iran
Is America no longer the world’s foremost indispensable nation?
Are trade wars really easy to win?
Why not win trade, instead of wars?
Here are some interesting stats:
In 2006, China was the number one trading partner of 70 countries and regions, while the figure for the US is 127.
By 2011, China and the US nearly switched positions, with China becoming the top trading partner of 124 countries and regions, as the figure for the US dropped to 76.
In terms of the number of trading ports in operation, China boasts 227 against America’s 26, noting that 7 of the world’s top 10 busiest ports are located in China.
Measured by industrial output in USD, China overtook the US in 2014, matching the combined weight of the US, Japan and Germany who placed 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively.
PPP adjusted, China’s gross industrial output surpassed that of the USA, by more than a factor of 2.5.
This begs the question in the world’s minds: Will China collapse like Japan or the Soviet Union did in the 90s?
The answer in short: No, because Japan was already in the advanced stage of economic development by the 80s, when the former USSR peaked as the only Cold War superpower broadly rivaling the USA in every field.
China today is an emerging power at a vastly different stage of development relatively speaking, being neither an advanced economy nor a peaking superpower that has reached maturity.
In any case, the United States ironically fits all the conditions of Japan prior to decades of stagnation and the Soviets on the eve of an epic collapse, having outlived itself as an advanced superpower in the highly matured stage of development.
The prevailing market sentiment is still however, in opposition to betting against the USA.
Is this a blessing or a curse?
qi lai Have you noticed that Trump is perpetually trying to get us into a war with Iran? He says the Saudi’s will pay us big bucks. So our boys can die for the Saudi’s. But that’s OK for you.
No
@@aslater5 Iran now has a Treaty with BRICS
just make sure you remember who imitated the trade war, and how far did china go to avoid a trade war. dont blame china when you go hungry
China has started unrestricted warfare against a naive United States. America is only starting to wake up now and is fighting back.
@@maxten who told you that? trump?
@@maxten Now i see why some people in US are so hostile. You believe in FAKE NEWS.
I cannot see China starting any actual wars, but I see lots of actual wars in middle east started by US. People easily forget, right?
@@chrisryu2179 there is a silent war on the ethnic minorities in China. Everything not han Chinese is being snuffed out.
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I’m so glad China knew exactly where to hit the US where it counts. You guys started the fight, you supported the fight, so you hv to bear the consequences, unfortunately.
Politics over Country, really?
The profit ceiling for Farmers was lowered when the most recent China trade deal was signed. The goal of the new deal is to raise that ceiling.
Every business has risk involved, political risk is inherent when you start a business.
If the new China trade deal happens, will you enjoy the savings on groceries you will see? Will you be happier that American farmers will have more resources to put into their business to create a better product?
What insinuation are you making with this statement?
@@logicalrealist3091 I'm not American - nor PRC - so it is neither politics nor country. Just the same, I am as affected by this trade war as anyone else. But it is clear as day, the economic war on China is started by the American government, and widely supported by Americans. So if you guys suffer economically as a result you can always go to the polls and show that you want a resumption of trade, not war. However, if you choose to fight, do wake up to the fact that while you are hurting China, you are also hurting yourselves and everyone else. And that the US may not win this one.
Americans largely started a fight first by the 2016 election. They voted in someone that is not smart and really doesn't know what is going on in the world. That John Deere in the background is the same tractor that is shipped around the world to other farms that have land and produce the same things they produce in America. The farmers work hard and have lower costs often. When the last president started a trade war China simply shifted where they buy products to South America and a few other places. What I don't understand is why this simple truth hasn't been laid out there in the news for people to understand.
Trust is key...remember these same farmers put trump in office. Reap what ya’ll sowed.
Pun intended?
Twice.
@@MikeCnolan yes and now the rest of the world sits back and watches their stupidity with amazement. No surprise that there is no sympathy for either US Farmers or Ranchers
China signed a 200 BILLION dollar deal this past Spring w Russia to ramp up 5 crops production (including soybeans). Russian expects to be up to speed by 2024. Trump’s helped Russian farmers a lot. Our farmers are getting welfare. People on the Southside of Chicago would say they desire goods jobs over welfare too
So knowing that will you invest in the ruble?
S 400 Well I was thinking definitely NOT John Deer, but I can get 200 million rupees for 10 bucks in India so I’m thinking about that..
Plus take into account the that all crops in Russia are mandated to follow the clean program of non gmo. The USA'S market is going to shrink as more markets shut out the gmo crops
USA market can be easily replaced. China was pushed to find another country or countries. Even if they do sign, the relationship and trust has been damaged. Their new partnership is building a trusting relationship knowing USA wants it back.
Trump makes Russia Great again !
That’s just it “one tweet could kill decades of relationships”. I wonder who she’s referring to there? She even said the people they elected to lead, meaning they voted for the liar. Down with trump.
they reap what they sow
Does what they said meant anything?
@@jago09 for now we reap what they sow since we are paying for their socialist donations aka subsidies
But judging by their views, they will vote again as they don't realize the cause of their suffering.
@@MB-yg9vg right and they said, we don't want to live on welfare, okay well now you understand the necessity of it.
Hey they voted for the guy and will most likely do so again. So I don't feel bad for them.
You don't know that and if they did they voted under the presumption that the Pres would have protected them. I grew up in rual farm Midwest and this breaks my heart.
@@randmcdand2463 if you watch the video you can tell they voted for him.
What facts do you have to prove that ?
@@randmcdand2463 you're being willfully ignorant if you actually believe a handful of white heartland farmers didn't vote for Trump.
How do you know they aren’t really democrats?
“One hundred percent of our non-GMO corn goes to Japan.” Where does the GMO corn go?
In your belly.
GMOs are not harmful.
David Cordial Then why make non-GMO? And why is this an issue elsewhere? ec.europa.eu/food/plant/gmo_en
There are, of course, a large number of articles on this ongoing topic. People can obviously research and judge for themselves.
It is her non GMO not the country's
They got what they voted for.
(As a non American and lets say not so much of a Trump fan) The regulations that the democratic party wants to put on american farmers (comparably low to european standards) would break many farms necks just as mich as trumps childish trade war. so no matter who they would have voted they got what they voted for.
@@herbertlandschmid3012 not childish china is literally trying to get world domination. I dont get how people can still be ignorant to the fact that china is evil.
Who knew that making “America first” policies would lead to other countries increasing business 🙌🏼
Ever other country on earth
Pub Comrad
Short term pain : Sure
Long term gain : Not sure :(
@Stoned Ewok
Stop trading with Nazi Germany (modern China).
@Pub Comrad who told you that? trump?
@Stoned Ewok We don't need those trade relationships. China is hurting more from it. Canada is not big enough to make up such a huge shortfall.
The trust is gone as far as China is concerned if it happened once it can happen again, stability is really important in China.
Yes. No Chinese will want big contracts with US Farmers because of FOOD SECURITY.
@The Mythbuster
don't worry , Huawei can buy from Japan , better quality lol
Trust from a country that never executed its obligation it signed to get into the WTO? Such a stupid statement.
That’s silly. Food prices fluctuate dramatically especially in these industries. They will purchase whatever goods make financial sense to purchase, including US goods when the chinese government stops putting tariffs on them.
@@CO8848_2 Trust from a country that crashed the world economy and invades other countries on lies ? Such a stupid statement
these are the smartest sounding farmers i've ever heard
Not all farmers are poor.
American farmers are actually pretty wealthy and educated (surprisingly considering it’s president)
@@chunks6856 I wish I can say that about farmers in my country.
@@chunks6856
America needs to ban circumcision now.
Seriously , these are smart people
Your nation is bullying other nation, so dont expect yours to extend economic benefit to your farmers.
They were all very well spoken and professional. I expected a lot more vitriol and frustration. Hopefully agreements are able to get in place soon
@Santiago Bron Indeed. Why their attempt to be the "victim" is extremely insulting and asinine.
Well said, Arjun.
Check out Andrew Yang!
Many farmers I see are talkative, not surprised
Young Tang
Heavy subsidies and government mandated acreage cutbacks.
I love how in one breath the woman complains about the EPA not doing enough to protect their ethanol gravy train, then the very next question claims she's not looking for a handout. Lady, ethanol needs those EPA special treatments precisely because it's economically a failure, and studies have blown the environmental benefit myth out of the water...it's actually WORSE than fossil fuels when you include land-use changes in the calculations.
Brian Mulholland I think she knows a little bit more than you do
@@sterlingmarshel6299 Riiiiight. She receives corporate welfare in the form of ethanol mandates, RINs and other favors from the government, and isn't simply expressing her personal interest and looking for a handout. Sterling, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Use the corn to feed people instead of cars. In the world a lot of hungry people can afford corn not car. The US farmers(some of them are very rich) are no different, it all comes down dollars and cents, profit and lost. The victims are the consumer. Your president he know exactly what he is doing, he and his daughter used to bought and sold a lot of Chinese made consumer goods.(shirts brand under his own name and her daughter' fashion brand, are all Made in China). Take coal for instance, I don't think there are a lot of countries still using coal as fuel. Where is he going to sell the coal to? He said there is no climate change! A lot of his decisions doesn't make any sense.
Yang 2020!
@@robertwong2218
We need trash/biomass derived Fischer-Tropsch fuels.
Do they realize they're all getting welfare?
Some would probably admit it. But most would say they're being "subsidized".
Build another market like China? Haha 😆 Sorry impossible. There’s no such thing
Maybe in India
Shengji Gu India just rejected Australia and New Zealand agricultural free trade
@@shengjigu7751 India also does not eat beef
stkchen2005 Meat in general is hard to sell in India.
@ettekamba6969 That's China's market,,,we choose China over the west
I wonder how many of these people voted for Trump.
All of them
Take away the government welfare and see how patient these people are.
USA will probably have to take away welfare as they now have a lot of debt to repay and no one will lend them money
Notice how they didn't raise their hand when he asked how many of U have received corporate welfare & yes I said corporate welfare cuz that's what it is.
There won't be any deal this year, people should be able to tell by now.
Hello, USMCA AND CHINA DEALS ARE DONE NOW
They have not answered one question: for the past dealing with China, were price and terms fair? If so, where advantage has been taken by whom?
They didn’t know how to answer your question.
Great question.
Your question is confusing. China pays the market price like anyone else, and different countries have taken advantage depending on the specific product (e.g. Brazil and soybeans).
@@Hyperpandas if you insult a customer they have a right not to come back and do business with you. China just toke there business elsewhere. E.g Brazil for soybean.
@@lisaphillips9991 I don't disagree. I was merely trying to interpret and answer someone's question.
"Trade wars are good, and easy to win".
Y'all voted for him. BUT THE EMAILS😂😂😂
Y’all should watch the Russia China relations. Enemies to frenemies...to more than friends. It’s a happy ending.
Maeh Tahlei A. Heavenlyshine it’s US that pushed them to join forces.
Trump brags and laughs about tariffs while these people suffer.
@Miller Time that's a lie they are losing money..and the government isn't subsidizing losses
Don't worry dude, farmers will get subsidized from Trump, temporarily during the trade war. They won't go broke. The most important is the jobs. Unemployment rate keeps falling down and now it's at the lowest in 50 years, dude! Once the US wins this trade war, farmers will get back to their business, even more prosperous business.
@Miller Time with tax payer's money, so we all suffering
@Miller Time I guess when they were explaining that they were not breaking even and that some neighbors lost their farms that to you said we love what Trump is doing lol
@@juraganc7420 what part of it took us 3 decades to build relationships with china that we are losing through a tweet from the idiot in charge is misterious to you? They won't get it back China is going elsewhere
This is what happens when you Do not talk to the people who These tariffs are effecting and just do it. As a California I grew up on agriculture and know tariffs can have a deep impact on American farmers when this war is over it does not mean they will start buying product again from America when they can get it from other countries cheaper and more reliable The POTUS does NOT get that
Haha it is especially true when you take into account future incomes but of course Trump
@bill will Whatever I use to be a buyer for my company in china. Whats motto JUST ENOUGH
With respect to these farmers and what they do, it's ironic to have a group of multi millionaires talking about a struggling period due to a trade war initiated by their own country.
Millionaires are people too 🤣🤣🤣
This title makes it sound like China started this trade war lol
Oh for crying out loud....THEY DID, DECADES AGO and our politicians went along with it for huge "donations" to their own personal "foundation charities". Jeeze people, get past the 2 minute bitching seminar and LEARN SOMETHING for once.
@@MegzeeR Apparently you are the one who need to learn something.
@@ensteffo then teach me what I need to know
Farmers on welfare, tRump supporters taking tax dollars same as food stamps for the poor.
Farmers and bankers both desire to be fully compensated when things are going well, and fully protected when things go badly. The idea of using petroleum to ethanol only works in a subsidized economy, without the subsidies ethanol would not be competitive. The same farmer that wants to sell corn to produce ethanol fights the wind industry.
This is like interviewing those who came back from the war, not the ones who are dead. Hope you all are enjoying the Don The Conman tRump.
Well, good luck to find another 1.4 billion people that want and can afford your product.
As to Japan, let’s put it in this way- don’t hold your breath.
Japanese are the oldest population... LOL
China: look at me USA farmers, I am the captain now 😘
Break up all this huge farms and let people go back to there farms. No we don't care at all about Plutocratic farmers like this. Not one bit.
This will be next year
US and China has been in a very close relationship in terms of culture, education, trade, tourism, counter terrorism... for decades
No one expected current US elected president just suddenly ruin the precious relationship and put both sides in a very hostile situation.
Ordinary people like most of us should not blame on each other, they should elected a much more wiser leader instead of a businessman who treat the citizens like the employees.
Wow you sound like CCP leadership who emphasizes win-win above all else but conveniently forget that there is no such thing as win win. As China is getting stronger economically and militarily with each passing day US will inevitably lose. Nothing can change that period.
he don't know how to be a president,he just want to make a deal
@@jordantan291 yes indeed my friend. US and most Western countries just cant get used to deal with a stronger China.
The lady that said this is not a chess match is the smartest clear eyed one of the group. She nailed it when she said China is building up their infrastructure elsewhere. China Is building up infrastructure in Africa BIG time they have deals throughout on the VERY richest land in the world for farming.
Farmers are heavily subsidized and ethanol creates artificial demand. Oil and gas is under the same pressures of trade deals. Diversify the customer, limit debt and invest more prudently. The fact soybean supplies haven't been disrupted means it was an over saturated market.
Are they actually farmers or professional farmer spokesman, their command of the english language is much better than your average college graduates, which is sad.
A lot of state universities have agriculture courses that teach better farming techniques and business courses. Iowa State Univerty is one and my alma mater Washington State University is another. It's a stereotype that farmers are dumb. Also some farmers also work another job. One of my friend's family owns a bar. Another friend the father was a surgeon and mom was a nurse.
A lot of farmers actually are college graduates...
Working in a farm requires brains as much as brawn. It requires overcoming problems constantly, be it the crops side, the market side, new technologies. Having a degree in farming gives them an advantage. That’s why they are able to spew out all the jargon you hear in this interview.
Poor Little Sheep ...they are high IQ guys,especially the girl.
Just because someone lives in the country, doesn't make them uneducated. Take your uneducated self back under your rock bia!
We need certainty. Trump is uncertainty on two feet!
2:09 You can't have International Trades without Globalization.
Precisely.
You can!
@@irgids but you can't have the scale of trade today withour globalization.
Keoni Mana long gone are the days when we traveled in ships buddy. Globalization is inevitable.
In trade you only have willing seller and willing buyer. If one side not willing there is no trade.
Before they vote this time around they should ask themselves if they are better off than they were 4 years ago.
2:50 You said it!!! YOU VOTED FOR HIM!! You made your bed now lay in it!! Go ahead and we re-elect him see where you end up!
Well elections have consequences, not to put salt on the wound, but in life you always reap what you sow. I couldn't find a better analogy to describe this situation. it's really painful and the lady was right Rallies and tweets won't solve their problems. it's nice to have these good talk but by the end of the day what do you have to show for? and that's a key question. People don't realize that China is the second biggest economy in the world and the third largest army in the world China is not a small country. although the Administration specifically the White House has been portrayed that has an easy some game. today we are seeing a complete opposite. Having said that the Genie is already out of the bottle let's hope that they can find a quick solution.
2:56 it hurts me to see this poised woman getting emotional. Her decades of hard-work was ruined by a single tweet. What's worse, they were given false promise and elected a liar. Imagine how hopeless and helpless it must be for her ! These hands-on, hard-working farmers should be on the trade commission of the executive branch, not the lobbyist !!
🤦🏻♂️ Sorry, but this ethanol as eco-fuel myth has got to end soon, and the required watering down of fuel that goes with it! Take the hit, get on with the next thing. 🤷♂️
Exactly. Corn ethanol is NOT a viable large scale transportation fuel. It's a government cash cow.
Very well said - Trade, Transportation and Trust. TRUST takes time to build and it was wipe away with a stroke of a pen.
You know what you voted for, now reap the rewards.
So they need those payouts to make ends meet. What about the other people in the country impacted by these ridiculous tariffs? It's disheartening to hear farmers act like they are the one with a burden. Most of these farmers voted for this president. Sorry but you got what you asked for.
That is America talking, " a tweet can destroy what the farmers have built over decades" on & off trade wars have very long term effects. starting trade wars and then throwing farmers subsidies is extraordinarily foolish ...
"we need to build that middle class somewhere else" she said US build China's middle class?. You might say "yes because US sent their jobs to China" but even though they did it because they want cheaper things
Giankpetrov Yes it was tactic admission that the US middle class is gone. Yet they still want more trade deals that will continue the destruction of the middle class at home.
Because America pick a fight with someone for the first time who can stand up to them , that empowered other to push back against American bullying I.e European , other Asia countries....
The amazing thing is theres a shortage of pork meat in China right now and these "farmers" is not/unable to do anything all because of the trade war ....
Here is a thought: How about you big farmers change your farming practices to organics, free range, humane farming instead of mass producing meats and grains? You guys have the power to contribute positively to the environment. It’s hard to feel sorry for you, also because you most likely voted for this president.
Sad to see all the hate in these comments. For me, after watching this, I feel for them. I see the humanity and insightfullness of all of us. Clearly they are going through a difficult time and regardless of political affiliation or philosophy, we are people living together in a connected society. I hope they know some of us really do appreciate the work they do.
Don't worry farmers ....according to trump there lots of jobs.......
You can’t hate foreigners and immigrants then expect them to be your customer.
Russia is getting great again!
This kind of reminds of people in Britain who voted for BREXIT, and now are complaining about the results.
Just wondering who they voted in 2016...
It's about to get a whole lot worse now
They really don't know Chinese! Trust
Ashutosh singh I think you misunderstood me! You can't trust them. The Chinese and Chinese Americans and people of Hong Kong are different
A business losing big in one area making it up in another needs a better plan.
😂😂😂😂 that was my thought as he was speaking , yet one person said he was a smart business man
I am a Chinese. I like these people, the interviewer and the interviewees. That is a reasonable conversation, not some finger-pointing nonsense. I agree China needs to make some changes. I believe the two nations should be partners. I disagree with these China-haters in Washington. Very bad people for the Welfare of the two people's.
I'm just wondering how American farmers survived before China joined the WTO in 2001? Also what they fail to mention is much of the farmed goods are subsidized by the government anyway. When they say they're selling for below cost, that's true, however, what they don't say is they still make a profit because of the subsidies from the U.S. government.
You got what you voted for.
I’m extremely pro agriculture, and pro farmer, but this is REALLY hard to watch as they sit in a barn that is worth two times more than my house, and if front of a pulling tractor that could easily cost $500,000. I’m serious when I say that the tires on the tractor probably cost more than the three vehicles I own.
I’d like to be able to afford basic health insurance...as these millionaires moan about the candidate they all voted for.
anna chrissy, large scale farming is debt-heavy
Anon It is extremely debt heavy, and can be extremely risky. They can carry a tremendous tax burden. But at the same time, no one force them to lease 4,000 acres, and buy new equipment.
Totally agree. I grew up in the 60's and 70's on a farm. I wanted nothing more than to be able to make a living on a small dairy like I grew up on and around. The government under Reagan changed the course of this countries agriculture system, so what we have now is a direct result of that. Trump is merely going to continue this, just on steroids.
vote trump again if you want this tariff war to continue...
And hearing that you all are "somewhat" profitable this 2019, you ought to vote trump and keep this war for another 5 years!
So you want to China continue take more and more advantages from US which worth much more than what is cost now
@@gaochao0418 China is taking advantage of US. So why trading China in the First place?
@@gaochao0418 Take advantage??? Are you joking?? They sell you real products and you printed green paper as exchange.
Chao you don’t seem to understand that China will ALWAYS take advantage of wholly capitalistic economy if it has top leadership team that are mostly western trained. It is having the best of both worlds. Google Harvard Kennedy school of public administration where they have a dedicated school for producing communist cadres with with world class management methodology.
I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for trump. I do feel bad for people who did not vote for VP trump. With tariffs and trade wars being a farmer is going to be horrible!!!
Why the F did you vote for Trump in the first place!
Trumper told them what they wanted to hear. Now...
So you're required to like all the policies of a candidate before voting for them?
Because dead bodies are showing up everywhere the Clintons go. The Clintons are with the Rockefellers clan.
Because they believe the Clinton's are devil worshiping secret assassins.
Anyone using round up is going to get non hodgkin's lymphoma, its sad. Proven in court round up banned in Canada for causing cancer. If your using it now and eating it, dont be surprised. So who could of guessed a corporate socialist bailout was a bad idea? Everyone, no sympathy. You get what you voted for.
The arrogance which America has is shocking,the world is not there to serve you,If there's no mutual benefit keep your grain and meat on your shores.
I love these farmers, they sound honestly so intelligent and educated.
Are you kidding me????
Why wouldn't they be?
They have no idea what the free market is
They were heavily subsidised by US taxpayer's money over decades.
Trust? That's a dubious and eroding notion today. On an international level, America's trust factor diminishes with each passing day...
So farmers want socialism when they are the ones who get help but not when anyone else needs it. Sounds like they deserve the fallout of their vote.
Grandpa I told you to put on long pants for the WSJ interview. The whole world is laughing at us.
And they're still defending DT. That's the spirit! Hope DT get another 4 years.
A new President will need $20 billion dollars to pay the farmers next year.
Wow! So the farming industry is doing great. So that means no more subsidies?
The two ladies were the most impressive. Either of you will make a much much better president than Trump.
a 6 years old would be a better prez than trump, doing nothing is much better than doing harm to out country, like cutting tax for the rich, waging trade war
Farm exports are vital to some US farmers but the US itself , unlike say New Zealand , can survive without being a food exporter. So it isn't actually that big a deal and the farm subsidies need to stop and a lot of US farmers need to find other jobs . NZ doesn't subsidise its farmers. NZ forced thousands of farmers to walk off the land in the 1980s when it stopped all farm subsidies and they are a country where farm products are the nation's biggest and pretty much only export.
How many farmers voting for Trump again?
Growing subsidized crops like soyboy covered in roundup. If that stops it's not a bad thing. These people are not farmers they are land speculators with huge subsidies.
they have to tighten their belts since they voted for this,business is business it's buy and sell if you agree to sell at a certain price nobody is taking advantage of you
Where the people who lost their jobs working on farms, due to hight tariffs, compensated on the Market Facilitation Program ?
When you interfere with Hong-Kong and expect China to meekly come to negotiate?
Bet you all never expect this president to be so "unqualified"?
who is not suffering from tariffs
To bad to sad! Everything he touches dies!! It was clear from day one. He only cares about himself and his families.
Tired of all this winning yet? 😂 None of you should have gotten any corporate welfare.
Thank you WSJ for sharing with English subtitles.