White Rim is better with friends
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- On a late October day four riders set out to ride White Rim, three for the first time. What followed was a perfect day of good company, great weather, big views, and a bucket list ride completed.
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I was on the WR a few weeks later last fall. Losing 1 hour of daylight and the lower temps (high of low 40's) definitely hurt. My buddies were on FS MTB's, myself a Trek Domane Aluminum 700cx35 lol. I had read, at the time, people doing it with 32's, so I naively thought why the hell not. Most painful experience of my life. Did mile 70-100 in total darkness. Was having illumination issues once we got off Hardscrabble. Got back in to town with only a Dominoes open around midnight but boy was it glorious. Live and learn I guess. I've got a Canyon Grizl now that can take 50's, I'd do it again but not in a day. I'd only do in a day with a MTB, but like you said, to each their own. That bedrock between Shafer and basically all the way to Murphy's annihilated me where my MTB counterparts floated over it. Nice work!
Nice work back at ya! 35 is a whole other level. That said, the first time we ever did it was on 35 Cross Bosses and we survived. We always tell unimitated people to ride a MTB, because underbiking is an acquired taste.
I took (as a guide) a group of 13-14 year old boy scouts around the White Rim on Mountain Bikes nearly 30 years ago. To this day, those boys still talk about that 4 day ride as one of the greatest adventures they have ever been on. Would love to do it again, maybe I will now!
We saw a group of dad-types and kids out the day that we rode this one, and we agree, that is definitely a lifetime memory in the making - for the adults and kids both!
Just finished this in October. I took the scenic route with a three day solo bikepack. Used my Cannondale Topstone Gravel Bike riding on 45C Maxxis. Got a few raised eyebrows chatting with folks at the bike shops etc. My humble opinion is you are way overbiked with an MTB on this route and I had no issues and relatively comfortable with a loaded machine (11 litres of water onboard!)...not fast, but who cares...the scenery and camping was absolutely stunning - burned into my memory - including a massive T-storm the first night that almost ripped my tent apart!
Bravo on doing it your way and enjoying it! Cycling is a very personal experience, and so many people are quick to prescribe their preferences to others, but in the end whatever makes you happy is the best way. Your trip sounds amazing.
Did White Rim in one day about 2 years ago on my Cannondale Topstone Carbon with the biggest tires I could fit in it, can confirm that this ride would definitely be more comfortable with some suspension! Your arms, back and hands will hurt riding this on a gravel bike :) great film!
Most people are going to have the most fun on a MTB, but we've gotten our drop bar setups quite dialed - minus Bryan and his fully rigid setup with the 48t. He's crazy, ha! :)
@@rodeoadventurelabs4817 well at least he’s got a beast of a drop bar bike that can fit MTB tires! I am very disappointed in the rear tire clearance of my 2020 Cannondale Topstone frame (max is ~40mm). Looked like y’all had a great day out there, hope to make it back one day! Cheers
Such a great film! Thank you for posting. We are gunning for the White Room in a Day as well. So beautiful out there.
Cheers! Have a great day out there! Hopefully you'll get cool temps and not much wind!
This looks like an amazing ride! Beautiful video! 👍👍👍👍
Love the matching helmets
Nice commitment to the camera work. Excellent. We’ve also confirmed that this is much better done on the mountain bike, in my mind.
Glad you know what works for you! Keep on keeping on!
Chuck, I was thinking the same thing. My CX race bike looks like it would be nearly as fast and so much more comfortable.
Giving the people what they want!
Nice job! Especially the cameraman for the extra mental effort it takes to film.
Thanks! Much appreciated. When it was all said and done it was pretty incredible what an iPhone can capture these days. This was a good reminder to tilt the camera from portrait to landscape from time to time.
Watching this made me hella miss the west... 😥
What a motivational film. Makes me want to go out and ride! Ok, 8pm and rain is not the best time but tomorrow is another day. On a different point, I wrote to Gary Vaynerchuck 12 years ago he needs to hire a full time videographer/photographer. You might not be ready for full time but I feel you could create more content and get it in front of more people without the pressure of having to direct and produce it all. This is a note to the intern.
Great video!!!
Thank you!
I enjoyed your video of the ride.
wow
Beautiful!
This ride is on my bucket list….bring my new TD4 or the mountain bike…hmm
Mountain bike will be more comfortable and for people who are in doubt that's the safe bet. But if you put big tires, a proper gearing, and perhaps Redshift bits on it, your Donkey can be quite comfortable on the route. No matter what bike you ride it will be perfect for some of the day and imperfect for others.
Donkey???
@@uclaalum88 TD4 is the type of bike he has, which stands for Traildonkey 4. :)
Did you filter water or just try to bring enough? I think this video made everyone jealous. Good job.
There was no need to filter because temps were in the 60s and we weren't drinking as much. We carried about 140oz of water / liquids each.
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So inspirational. I stood at the top of the Schafer switchbacks in late 2020 and said, “someday.” It’s not come yet but I just know it will.
Tell me about water. Did you carry it all or find some to filter somewhere?
We're careful not to ride this when the temps are too hot. Anything much over 80f will dramatically increase water requirements. We all had about 60-70oz of bottle water and about 70oz in our packs and we all finished with water to spare, but our temps were only in the low to mid 60s. You can filter or treat the green water, and at times there is snow runoff in February or March in various arroyos.
What frame bag is Mick using?
Great video! I plan on riding this later this month on my Ti Flaanimal! Question: I've heard mixed info - if you leave start / finish at Mineral Bottom, then do you have to get a permit? My buddy who rode it just a few weeks says "no", but everything I read says "yes."
You do need to get a permit per the rules, but it isn't expensive or hard to get. You are crossing into national park and a very remote area and they want to know who is out there and they probably want to control how much it gets used. That said, a single day permit is much easier to get than overnight permits. Have we always gotten a permit? No. We didn't know that day permits were a thing some of the times we've ridden it, and we were never stopped or asked about that, but it's worth doing it right. PS: Use the biggest tires the frame will fit! And a squishy stem and post wouldn't hurt either. Have fun!
Awesome, is there any way to look up the route you guys did. Would love to try it
Sure thing: strava.app.link/gt8BZaYczEb
Been on my list for awhile now. Great video representing all aspects of ride in short amount of time. What were the stats for the ride?
Thanks! It turned out to be about 100.5 miles and we were out there for about 10.5 hours. 7500ish feet of climbing.
What tire sizes did you guys run? I'm on the fence about taking my TD3 or FS MTB on my hopeful second run on it next year. I've been leaning towards the MTB for a bit more comfort and rideability with the larger volume tires on the sandy and rougher sections. Awesome day out by the way.
We all had 29x2.1 and 29x2.2, but it's actually a bit more comfortable on 650x2.4. The critical thing for dialing in the monster gravel setup is the Redshift stem and the suspension seatpost. When you've got all those bits installed it makes for a great day. A MTB will always be more comfortable, but also over biked for large parts of the route. We specifically always try to push ourselves and our equipment, so pure comfort isn't the primary concern on a single day outing such as this.
Thanks for the reply. I only have a 700c wheelset for my Donkey. I can do 47mm R and 50mm F. I do think getting over 2' is ideal. I have a Redshift stem and eesilk seatpost, which definitely helps. But will probably still roll with the MTB next go. My last trip was several years ago on a 26" FS Specialized Stumpjumper so just about anything should make for a faster outing. @@rodeoadventurelabs4817
You all ride 650b wheels ?? Bikes look great 🥰
We have done a lot on 650x2.1 through 2.4 and they are super fun and playful. On this exact ride we were riding 700x2.1 and 700x2.2
Y’all did the route backwards from when I did it 😂
We're big fans of the Mineral bottom clockwise route, but all ways give you those same killer views eventally!
Any link to the instagram of the guy with the Ti bike???
@bderstine and @kaizergilroy were both on Ti Flaanimals. Those are their insta handles.
ding bong !
This hurts my soul
I'm all for slammed stems, but we gotta talk about Brian's saddle height... Friends don't let friends ride with horrible fits... That sucker is about 40mm too low...
What is the deal with the Roman Empire ?
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Video A+
Audio D-
Please spring for a mic cover!
It's shot on an iphone, so, no apologies. We were there to ride bikes, the film was a bonus.