Adult son of adoptee gets Y-DNA Results back

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  • @theHookdudewest
    @theHookdudewest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nathaniel great video ... I've been following you on youtube and I really hope that you can eventually be able to identify who your biological grandfather was ... it's amazing how much you can find thru DNA tests. Knowing where your roots are is very important. I'm glad that you have followed up on this & good luck in your future research.

  • @seansilvernail7522
    @seansilvernail7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Nathaniel. It might benefit you to take a test with 23 and me and group your matches by Y haplogroup. These matches may help you narrow down autosomal matches on your paternal line. I came across your channel due to my own interest in genealogy due to my own adoption. I was able to find both my parents and I now have a tree with 8000+ proven relatives on both sides. One of my paternal 2x great grandmothers was born in Phenix City during the Civil War. I wish you good luck in your search for your grandfather.

  • @Eochaidh32
    @Eochaidh32 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Dad was adopted in Belfast, Ireland. Our Y-DNA is R1b > L21> DF23>z149. I found out his biological father was a Doherty from Belfast and the Y-DNA result supports that.

  • @pennyduncan6861
    @pennyduncan6861 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nathaniel, I am in a very similar situation. My father was illegitimate and his mother did not place him for adoption, but she refused to name the father. She coerced the family's silence on the issue with a threat of cutting off ties with them. I have always wondered about my grandfather. In the late 80's, I began researching. I asked every living family member if they knew his identity and got nothing. My grandmother did not have any other children. She died suddenly in 2002. Her older sister then shared all she knew with me. She gave me a name, city of origin, age, and place of employment. My father wasn't interested in learning about his father, but he wasn't opposed to my search. My father had an accident and died less than three months after his mother. I searched and searched and could not find anyone by that name that fit all of the details, or even most of the details. Everyone, including my great aunt, was told the man died in WWII. I found the closest match I could and, treading lightly,, contacted the family. They would not speak to me. I got the Ancestry DNA test, but the results were too great to narrow anything down. No links to the suspect were found. I have only one sibling, and at this point, I am soooo thankful it is a brother. I paid to have a Y-DNA test done for him and just received the results two days ago! There are three lines listed. None of which is the surname I was given by my great aunt. One match was different from the rest and it was a distance of 0. So it appears this man was either my grandfather, or it was possibly one of his brothers. I am still trying to decipher the results, but things look extremely promising that I have narrowed it down to only three possibilities. I have found this man's father as an ancestor of one of my matches on Ancestry. I am very excited and await a reply from the person managing that DNA on FamilyTreeDNA.com. On Facebook, I have found three children, all living who might be my half aunt and uncles. I don't see a family resemblance, but.... and this is quirky....they LOVE cats, and so do I. We foster cats for a local rescue. Who knows, maybe it's genetic. Best of luck in your research! Did your grandmother have any other children?

    • @tonyquinn22
      @tonyquinn22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am in a very similar situation looking for my biological grandfather. Cousins on my fathers father side are not a DNA match. Controversy always surrounded the birth of my father. Father, Grandmother and all her siblings have died. I really want to know who I am related to, and what surname I belong to.

  • @karensims6376
    @karensims6376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Great great grandmother was a Jones here in Pickens county Alabama.

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My grandfather was a Creamer from tge Phenix City area. I just posted a video about him.

  • @SereniaSaissa
    @SereniaSaissa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am in the exact same situation as you. My mother was born out of wedlock and she was adopted. I was able to get her original birth certificate and I traced her mothers family back to the 1600s. BUT her father was NOT Named on the BC. So I am now in the process of doing a DNA test to hopefully find my biological maternal grandfather. Like you, I have one quarter of my ancestry MISSING!!!! And like you, I have this big hole in my family tree!! Am still waiting for the results of my DNA test to show up.

    • @SereniaSaissa
      @SereniaSaissa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update - well my mother and I have both done a DNA test and we now have our DNA results. We have found both a first cousin and a second cousin to my mother - on her fathers side - and are now in contact. The downside is that there were several brothers in the family so we still need to ask the first cousins to do a DNA test in order to eliminate their fathers as also being my biological grandfather. It is a long slow process, but I am sure that we will get some answers - eventually.

  • @londoncalling8121
    @londoncalling8121 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As well as the DNA searching, I would also recommend some general detective work. Maybe make contact with anyone who was friends/family with your bio mother. You look young and your mother was 16 (?) when you came along, so most likely your mother is still alive? If she is, then surely she will know more detail? I guess you have tried that avenue if she is still around and I understand that in cases like these it's very common for people not to want to reveal that info - or worse still, make up a story. However, even if you cannot find out directly from her. what about her siblings/cousins/close friends/work colleagues? Somewhere along the line, someone will know who your bio father most likely is. Also, although it won't be 100% certain, if you check the location of your DNA matches, then anyone from the area where you were born will obviously be a much more llikely link too. Good luck. I do think you will solve the puzzle, but it will take time of course. Almost certainly you have paternal cousins and possibly uncles and aunts out there. And it's perfectly possible that your bio father is still alive - even grandparents too! Be prepared though - not every long lost family will be welcoming, but at least you would know who they were, which is the key of course. Keep us updated! PS. Oh and it just occured to me - I believe you mentioned previously that you have a high percentage of Irish DNA? Unless you are certain that is from your bio mother's side, then watch out for Irish surnames. Of course, people marry/change their names etc, but it might be a small clue nonetheless.

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi there!
      Firstly, the 16-year-old was actually my late father's mother. Her name was "Peggy" Glendora Brooks and she died in Las Vegas in 1990.
      I have made contact with some of her relatives but their memories of her are very blurry at this point in time. None of my grandmother's siblings are still alive so I was only able to speak with their children who would be my grandmother's nieces and nephews and my father's first cousins.
      My grandmother spent her final years in a small Nevada town called Indian Springs. About eight years ago I circulated some posters in Indian Springs asking for anyone who knew my grandmother to get in touch with me. I sent it to all the churches, libraries, casinos and so forth. No response. :(
      As for my grandfather... I know even less about him!
      My late father was born in a hotel room in Phenix City, Alabama in June, 1941. The old story was that his father was a much older man who has been variously described as a government official and a gangland character. Who knows what to believe! The one consistent story I've heard was that he was much older... in his 60s.
      So if he was in his 50s or 60s in 1941 that would place his date of birth in the 19th century.
      That being said, I don't know this for a fact. My grandfather could have been just about any Caucasian man in the Phenix City/Columbus, Georgia area.
      As for the Irish DNA... the DNA tests lump that in with Scottish blood. I know that I'm mostly Scottish on my mother's side. Both she and her mother did a DNA test.
      My father died in 2003 so there's no way to test his DNA at this point in time.
      Anyways... here are some links that might be of interest to you:
      Details on my father's birth and adoption:
      www.nathaniel.ca/2010/08/17/anatomy-of-a-sealed-adoption-file/
      My 2007 trip to my father's hometown in Alabama (I am from British Columbia, Canada):
      th-cam.com/video/bmRG9riUEHA/w-d-xo.html

  • @ajmexico
    @ajmexico 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a very similar situation. We thought we knew who my paternal grandfather was, but Ancestry DNA test revealed that my father's birth was a non-paternal event. With no clues, I started using DNA to figure it out. Like you, I took the Y-DNA test. Like you, one of the surnames I got back was Jones. That turned out to be correct. My grandfather was, in fact, a Jones. I made this step-by-step video on how to resolve a situation like this: th-cam.com/video/3dtX5sDW0FM/w-d-xo.html

  • @spinadash
    @spinadash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a maternal cousin of mine has his deceased paternal grandfather being adopted。he is so depressed of that and even cried in front of me. Previously, he asked me to find a suitable Y-Dna test for him to find his grandfather origin and real surname..ya deceased. So could I know what is the name for this test..Thx. * Note: He is a "Chinese" as his paternal grandmother is a real Chinese, and maternal side is Chinese. Only thing is he suspect his paternal grandfather( the deceased) is a son of a Japanese due to Japanese occupation on around 1942. The deceased mother is a young girl, maybe being raped * He live in South East Countries btw. All records of the birth of his grandfather has been cleared on behalf of the order of the adopted families..but the only thing he can check is maybe haplogroup.. As he is in a Buddhist family, the deceased is being cremated in 2012, but this cousin of mine wants to check on the bone marrow of the deceased even its unacceptable among his family.

  • @RoyPounsford
    @RoyPounsford ปีที่แล้ว

    Update your FTDNA to a Big Y700 which supply you with your SNP. Just remember that YDNA start with your oldest relatives and you work it toward your most recent relatives unlike your Ancestry atDNA start's with you. I see that the video is five years old, you also may have some cousin on your grandfather side of your family , have another look. Best of luck, Roy Pounsford

  • @robertdennis5318
    @robertdennis5318 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You, Your Dad, his dad and so on. Once you get the YDNA results, you will need to find a surname project associated with your surname. You will then connect with other, the comparing notes, including time and place, you might dicover where the NPE happened.

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've done the YDNA tests (up to 111 markers I think) and I have yet to find a smoking gun. A lot of my closest matches have the surname "Jones."

  • @kazadams5463
    @kazadams5463 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no idea who my mums bio father :( rumour has it he was a soldier so a brief encounter my mum was then given away as a baby I just sent my DNA off to be tested my mum is dead also

  • @Swampzoid
    @Swampzoid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds very overwhelming. Are you hoping to find out who exactly your biological grandfather was ? I'm just in awe. I could be interesting in my fathers DNA because all four of my grandparents had blue eyes as well as my mother but my father and i have brown eyes.

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I do hope to find the identify of my biological grandfather. That is my ultimate goal.
      I don't think I'll find him through the Y-DNA test but I think it's possible that I'll be able to find one of his ancestors and then use my other DNA tests to narrow it down.
      When do you expect to get your test back?

    • @Coupal1
      @Coupal1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If one of your grandparents on your father's side had a speck of green or brown in their eyes (you wouldn't have necessarily noticed it), you and your father could very well have brown eyes. My father had pure sky blue eyes and my mother had dark blue eyes with a very narrow rim of green around the pupil. None of my sisters nor I had blue eyes. Mine are dark green, and the others have variations of green as well.

    • @morte1889
      @morte1889 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is likely that you father is not the son of the person he thought was dad. or he was adopted.

    • @ljcl1859
      @ljcl1859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morte1889 Nope eye color is more complex than that. Likely a generation back there was a brown eyed parent.

    • @morte1889
      @morte1889 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ljcl1859 , it would be EXTREMELY rare, with some odd biology present. brown eyes are dominate , blue recessive. brown eyed great grands would make no difference. it would be more likely that my scenario would be correct.

  • @mikeLgriebel
    @mikeLgriebel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sure it will be resolved some day. Please make an update when it happens.

  • @FellowNerd_Doug
    @FellowNerd_Doug 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My cousin and I are in a similar boat. Our dads were adopted (closed adoption) and we know NOTHING. We both did tests through 23andMe and I had my dad do a test through Ancestry. We're still digging and now I'm considering having my dad do a y-DNA test. My hope is that I'll also be able to "see the light shining through the cracks"

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with that! Is your mother still living? If so, it might be a good idea to get her to take a test so that you can determine who your paternal relatives are through a process of elimination.
      Closed adoptions are an evil thing. :(

  • @judykaj512
    @judykaj512 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Minimum you need at least a 64. 32 the basic does not break down as well and will have MANY different surnames.

    • @Bonzi_Buddy
      @Bonzi_Buddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ancestry DNA has the largest database for dna relative matches. I'd go with that one when finding relatives. I have a 173 cm match and he won't respond to my email. I have another that is 113 and 96. The first two are from the same line and the second is from another. People who are close with 113 (and lower # matches along the same line) informed me they do not know who 173 is but I mapped out the rest. I have not found any link forward to my family. Someone clearly had a child out of wedlock or given one up for adoption.
      So far I think I've pinned down 3 and possibly my 4th branch but I have not linked them together. So basically I know the general ancestry going backwards but not a 2 generation period that will identify the missing individual. Same situation as this: very young mother (17) and unknown father. I hope it was young love and reckless behaviors of a youth that lost her father as a kid vs. someone being taken advantage of. But we do not know.
      Getting a 2nd cousin hit is a slam dunk. 3rd cousin should be pretty solid as long as that family has recorded their ancestry well. I identified all my 3rd cousins on my paternal side as well as my mother's maternal side easily even though there were some large families.
      It is a brutal puzzle but I'm sure it will be rewarding when one simple breakthrough will result in all the answers flooding in.

  • @thomasspicer4130
    @thomasspicer4130 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would strongly recommend 23andme they are in my personal opinion the most accurate ancestry dna company and they trace haplogroups too both maternal and paternal

    • @historytv4025
      @historytv4025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This the worse advice. He needs big y test . its the most precise y dna test while 23andme is the leadt detailed dna test

    • @beeazz1039
      @beeazz1039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wrong!! ancestry is the most accurate..

    • @maryslocum9443
      @maryslocum9443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I did both and 23 and me wants me to fill out all these surveys .

    • @mbr6198
      @mbr6198 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that 23andme gives the best detailed haplogroups on Y and mtDNA (and they update), but you don't get the Y matches there. You could be lucky to find autosomal matches that share the same haplogroup, but that only helps if it's a rare haplogroup. If you are R1b you have bad luck.

  • @christopherdipaolo2990
    @christopherdipaolo2990 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude you look like you could be my brother

  • @beingsneaky
    @beingsneaky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is you Haplogroup??

  • @tweetiepie551
    @tweetiepie551 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps look at these family trees you recieved from cousins and check for a commonality in county or area, then check cencus returns for that location with the last names you found most often.in 1941 cars weren't commonplace so people didn't tend to do long distance road trips just to go to a nightclub,so he either lived close by or had family there.

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for that information. My Ancestry DNA suggests that I have very deep roots in Alabama. I know that these Alabama matches aren't from my mother's side or my father's mother's side so they must be from my paternal grandfather's side. He was very likely from the area... The most common last names on my Y DNA matches are "Jones" and "Waugh."

    • @tweetiepie551
      @tweetiepie551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NathanielChristopher on watching another of your videos I noted that you found the man.

  • @philipsmithers4826
    @philipsmithers4826 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do not tell us what responses you got from your emails

    • @NathanielChristopher
      @NathanielChristopher  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, I got a lot a lot of family trees and names but I was unable to tie it all together. It was very confusing.

    • @philipsmithers4826
      @philipsmithers4826 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What we are working on here are things called centimorgans, the more you have with someone obviously the closer you are. So go to Family Finder Matches (in FTDNA) and look at Shared Centimorgans and tell me your top ten for now.

    • @southernreign1
      @southernreign1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philipsmithers4826 any update on this question you asked?

  • @dogcomb47
    @dogcomb47 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you could work on mine. It looks like everyone is a clone of me . My 1st cousin is really my 5th cousin. My daughter totally matches that cousins nationalities. I am clueless. Further, Either the person showing as my 1st cousin had a father that was one nationality....like I did....or he is an inbred between my grandfather and my aunt. Too bad they don't show us their percentages along with the nationality of our matches.

    • @tweetiepie551
      @tweetiepie551 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ethnicity estimates don't have any bearing on geneological accuracy.they are meant for fun and entertainment only.

  • @gaagaalayaasha
    @gaagaalayaasha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ydna haplogroup

  • @buebrahim6540
    @buebrahim6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s the fact of the western people live , most of them don’t know there biological father , may god help you brother , peace and love

  • @mr.creeper2615
    @mr.creeper2615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    salad fingers