Review: New Intermountain Tier 4 GEVO ! DCC ESU LOKSound ES44T4 ET44AC ET44C4 EF-644t T4
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I really appreciate how in depth these reviews are, especially compared to other people on youtube
Super awesome review and locomotive! Can't wait for the Scaletrains one to come in! Glad to know Intermountain has a good Tier IV too.
Cool I am getting a Norfolk Southern ET44AC TIRE 4 IV
ON MY BIRTHDAY
Great review. So much to cover. And you can’t please everybody. But you’re correct. Each brand has some really great features and others not so much. It really depends on what you want, sound features, detail or sturdiness. Good luck if you can get all that in one locomotive.
Some very nice looking and sounding engines. Thanks for the review
Just got my CN version today with sound and all I can say is WOW!!! Best Intermountain model I've had to this date (and even my heaviest)!!! I can't wait to see what ScaleTrains has to offer!!!
Great review. LOVE YOUR SATURN 5!
Great view James. I love the tier 4 locomotives so very much. They're awesome!!!!!
Thanks Nate. I was pretty excited myself.
James Nice review as always. The new cam is a great addition to your channel. I can see the detail on the subjects so much better. Thank you for the investment . Scottie
Thanks for watching! Glad you like the 60fps.
These model locomotives are looking really good. Great review
Awesomeness!! I can't wait for the Scale Trains ones!
Thanks for watching!
Beautiful locomotives! May have to get one in the near future
Aaahhhh, James!!😃😃😃 I can see the trucks moving!! Awesome!!!!😃😃😃
Yep pretty cool! Thanks for watching!
Love new camera quality
also I really enjoy your videos they got me into model railroading
Wow! Great review, James. You highlighted some things, such as the walkway light, that I wasn't even expecting. A truly impressive model, and I can't wait to get one. Only thing IM missed is the engine cab/long hood height on the NS version with the angled exhaust compartment. It should be a little shorter, but, nonetheless, this is new territory in terms of detail. Thanks for sharing!
-Cam
Cam, thanks for watching. The exhaust cabinet was done in two phases by railroads. They had a block shaped version built around the locomotive exhaust and then when they ran into problems with one railroad, they adjusted later units to the angled version. The NS versions represented by the models in my video are the early version and thus correct to my knowledge.
Correct. I think when they revised the exhaust compartment, they also revised the rest of the engine hood dimensions. So I meant that the engine hood just in front of the exhaust compartment actually appears slightly shorter on the later version with the angled exhaust. It's not super obvious, but if you compare photos of the two versions, the early version with the square exhaust has an engine compartment that's almost flush with the dynamic brake/alternator cabinet whereas the revised/angled version's engine hood sits slightly lower. Sorry that I wasn't super clear. I just wanted to point out my only complaint with these models because they otherwise look awesome. And again, great job with the review!
Very nice locomotives, we will have to see how they compare to the ScaleTrains ones when they arrive next month.
Thanks for watching!
Great video of the T4s God blessed your families and friends I have a CN T4 intermountain locomotive two years now from Cobb county galleria Atlanta train show I just want the PTC Antenna BNSF buy it.
I'm the kid who you met at railroad days in Omaha I hope you make it next year!
cool! nice to meet you!
Great review James I bought the BNSF and CSX, CN is next
Thanx for good review!
Thanks for watching! :)
NS version has flashing ditch lights front and rear when the horn is blown. Pull test was 5.1 oz (approx 75 average freight cars), I pulled over 70 cars at one point off camera. Weight was well over 1.5 lbs and NMRA specs were all in gauge. Ditch lights can be adjusted with CV's but standard for all locomotives out of the box is flashing. Overall, an impressive locomotive and great improvements implemented by Intermountain.
After doing all these reviews, which brand/type etc of modern locomotive do you like the best if you were going to buy a few for yourself? These Intermountains look nice, but because I've been doing n scale for so long, I haven't really kept up to date on who is making the nicest and best running HO locomotives
One thing I noticed a plus on the Intermountain model is the ditch light housings are thinner to scale and more prototypical. On the ScaleTrains version they're too thick and a bit out of scale. But enough to be very noticeable. I wonder if their upcoming 9-44CW is going to have rotating bearing caps. I bet Athearn and Atlas will step up their game. It would be about time if they do.
jlwii2000 I have a question have you reviewed any southern Pacific stuff
The more reviews I do, the more I realize one company does not have it all. There are trade offs, there are strengths and weaknesses. Even the budget friendly locomotives may not be detailed but are very durable and won't have little pieces break off. I have yet to find a perfect locomotive but if you follow my reviews some have come close.
an SP cab forward and some other locos as well.
Just ordered one , BNSF, I can hardly wait.
Nice, thanks James.
Thanks for watching John.
Well, you're right in my living room with this video!
Yep, lots more people are watching via Smart TV. TH-cam in general is becoming competition for network television. Thanks for your support.
Great review!
Thanks Justan.
hi James.. another great review of an awesome product... i'm not 100% sure but as far as i know BNSF does not have flashing ditch lights... it might be mandated for them to do so but i have not seen it yet... lots of T4's roll through Phoenix... thanks for sharing.. vinny
bnsf6951 BNSF ET44C4's do not have flashing ditchlights. Intermountain Tier 4's all come programmed from the factory with them to flash, a simple CV change will correct it.
thank you for the heads up... vinny
Great video 😀👍👍
Excellent work by intermountain, they definitely stepped up there game and it looks like both them and scale trains are surpassing Athearn genises models by far. Athearn needs to step up game big time
Wow that 1080p is amazing!
Yep, I've had 1080p for awhile but adding 60 frames per second allows for smoother runbys.
Impressive locomotives man I'm thinking of getting thee NS version and BNSF
Another great review James. I have 4 scale trains engines on pre order. 2 being csx, one union pacific and a cn locomotive.
Thanks George!
jlwii2000 hopefully I'll see you here in Orlando train show.
Wow! Those things are incredible! I thought the Tier 3 GEVO's had amazing sound, but these are even cooler! As for the detail, I can tell they're trying to compete with Scale Trains.
Metra MP36 407 Me too they are highly detailed! I really love the CSX Paint of I want one for Christmas 🎄 when it released it
Metra MP36 407 This sounds cooler? These sound like a vacuum cleaner above idle. At least older GEVO's still chug pretty good.
Scale Trains comes with 'keep alive' installed. That's a 20$ saving and no hassle installing one.
Above the right ditch light of the Canadian national Teir 4 you're going to see a little tiny marker light
I pre-ordered the scale trains version. something tells me I won't be disappointed.
Just arrived, BNSF, it's beautiful. Looks. and runs great.
Looks a lot better than the scale trains. Great locomotive, I can't wait to pick up some CSX ones
Thanks for watching!
Great review! Can you demo the different horn profiles/sound project in these? With the ScaleTrains T4 video I've seen the horn (finally!) sounds like a real thing and their SD40s are a testament to that as well. I'm curious if these two locos will use the same sound project.
Saw the facebook video I was waiting and waiting and waiting then finally
Thanks for waiting patiently.
jlwii2000 you are welcome
very good nice job
Thank you James for the review of your tier 4 locomotives!!!
Thanks for watching Nate.
Nice!
I love that CN color scheme
Nice the intermoutain tier 4 gevos are awesome I'm getting a intermountain csx tier 4 gevo from intermountain
Sweet!
yep stay turne for me to review the csx version
Great review!! Now I'm torn between the scale trains version or the intermountain version.
BNSF Fan 7695 you need to look closer at the scale trains gevos, there is huge differences between them
Same here! I am greatly impressed, but I will stick my money on the ScaleTrains units. I am not sold on the pilot details, such as the cables, of the Intermountain Gevos for looking so flat and lifeless.
+BNSF Fan 7695 - These are awesome, but the Scale Trains ones are better yet!!
Love your videos, but you really need to find a place and mount your control for the turntable haha. Every video insee it hanging there and it bugs me lolol. All kidding aside, keep up the great vids!
Yeah I had it mounted a long time ago but it fell. I need to fix a lot of things, I'm taking a day next week to do so. Thanks for your support and watching.
Hey Jiwii.
Does Loksound work on hornby track with a Hornby DCC select? im pretty new and picked up this controller as its one of the cheaper ones.
Nice. I have a request. I like to know about Kato ho and n scale train starter sets. Before I buying that train sets for my layout If you can please make reviews for the Kato starter sets.
Will you cover the next release of them?
Good looking Tier4 ‘s especially for CN & NS....Looking for to purchase them two . Question sir what system do you use because I’m torn between NCE and Digitrax?? Which one would you recommend??
That BNSF looks nice!!!
Thanks for watching Michael.
They've got all this bling on the model but they can't make handrails that are plumb and square. What good do all those details do when it looks like the handrails are off a unit that went in the ditch?
The engine idle is just as loud as the horn... Possible to reduce engine noise or increase the horn??
You rushed over the NS unit WAY too quick. The only one I wanted to see. Lol. Great review regardless! Will you be reviewing the CSX and UP units once you get them?
Thanks!
-JG
Yes, maybe then I can cover some NS detail...sorry man.
I have that locomotive and having issues with it. The sound works but the throttle will not respond. I did do a reset but it did not work. The throttle still will not respond. Any ideas.
How many of these do you have in your collection?
WOW, anybody notice that Intermountain actually made the Bearing Caps move, that's a first from Intermountain.
Yep, it's pretty cool. I mentioned it in the review but you're right a first for Intermountain. Thanks for watching.
Your welcome, love your reviews and layout.
good video man like it
It would be nice to see a proper recording of these units done, the horn isn’t correct, and the engine isn’t even close, most notable at idle.
Visually though it’s a good looking unit
But I will get my hands on at least one new intermountain Norfolk southern engine.
wow cool i going to try get me cn one at my hobby shop. one thing worries me is dynamic break vent is not open like the es44ac units. why you may ask? some decoder generate heat and if there no areas for heat to escape it could kill the decoder in long run. my second run of bowser sd40-2 get warm after few runs. hey James did you feel if the engine get warm on few runs?
I did not notice it running hot, even after pulling dozens of freight cars by itself.
ah ok. hey have you taken the intermountain es44ac and et44ac to see the the different speed out of the box,
no I skipped things like that as it would have been an even longer review.
Marine Raptor The dynamic brake vents are not see through from one side to the other because of the chassis. The way their Tier 4 chassis is designed to add weight unfortunately changes the see through ability unlike the early style gevos.
i know. i think on early gevo they made the see through vents let heat of the decoder out.
@ JLWii2000, would you be interested in reviewing any of the new Athearn SD50's when they are released next year? I have two that I purchased in 2007 with Chessie System road name. I am asking because I have watched you videos since I subscribed to your channel, and trust your judgement on this hobby.
Yes I'll probably pick that up to review.
jlwii2000 awesome, looking forward to the review.
Hey James my brutha from anothu Mutha! lol... Hey bro, hope you been doing OK and really appreciate all you do for us modelers. I purchased the Post 2006 water tenders from Scaletrains, The Mueum Quality Big Blow Tubine #15 and 2 UP SD40-2's Rivet Counter models and I have to say, I absolutely love what Scaletrains has done with these models! I need your opinion though, I have a UP and a BNSF Tier 4 GEVO pre ordered but after seeing this review on Intermountains model man have they stepped up the game on the Locos! Which manufacturers edition would you choose? Thanks man, I really don't want to make the wrong $450.00 decision , I know either would be awesome considering what ScaleTrains has done since they started but I wouldn't mind giving Intermountain anther chance to come back into my life Loco wise if you feel that would be the better choice! Take Care Brother!.......... Ricky'
Ricky, it's hard to tell until I see both manufacturers final product. In the UP scheme specifically, from what I have seen so far I would slightly lean Intermountain because I am a window tinting and lighting nut. The walkway lighting and very dark window tint really hits me in the eye candy department. But I have yet to see a production version of the Scale Trains and Intermountain UP unit so that could change.
The NS units were supposed to have operating LSL lights. Did you notice it at all?
I went back to look at the models and I cannot find any LSL lights.
Darn, that stinks. I think they're in front of the number on both sides on the NS units.
Red Raider Railfan Productions NS & CSX locomotives both have LSL light details but neither Intermountain or Scale Trains has operating LSL lights on their Tier 4 models.
I love how all the model train companies copy each other on how they box there Trains
Wow, I've never seen this kind of Competition going around with companies trying to get out the best flagship product with "rolling hub bearings". Funny stuff
Will the CN DPU light operate when in DCC consist?
I'm not sure. I would have to get back to you on that.
can you do a review on scale train n scale union pacific
Yes, when it releases.
So is the e bell an actual bell or just a recorded sound?
GM&W Railroad recorded, but ESU does fantastic sound quality in their decoders
How could i get this loco
I would like to get an ES44AC from intermountain but the sound just isn't right on these Loco's. I spend a good amount of my time on the real things each week so I've become accustomed to what they sound like in real life. Kinda disappointed with the LokSound decoders. Beautiful job with the CN line up though. They have to be the most visually accurate model to date, too bad the sound doesn't match :(
James would you be willing to do a comparison video between the Intermountain and a Scale trains version if you happen to get a sample to review from scaletrains.com?
I've ordered two UP units from Scaletrains. I will do a review of that loco. I'm not sure I'll do a vs or not. Still mulling it over. The last time I did a vs video I caught a lot of crap from fans of the loco companies. If I do a comparison it will be a features comparison. Any vs video I do has always had one loco having some features that win out and the other loco having some. It's never an all or none deal. So I'm mulling it over.
jlwii2000 I can see what happened in my head... *shudders*
For those of you who care, I plan on doing a comparison between the Intermountain and ScaleTrains versions of the Tier 4 in the CN paint. Once the ScaleTrains version comes out, look for a comparison video. I am getting the Intermountain version today.
Can you review a z scale locomotive
It's soo tiny. I don't know if I can see what is going on lol.
IM screwed up by molding the radiator grilles and not going with see through screens. Who cares if the corrugation count isn't accurate? See through looks way better. I mean seriously has anybody actually climbed onboard a real T4 and counted the corrugations?
I think I'm going to cancell my ST and order IM
Who makes the best ho diesel engine as far as quality and detail @jlwii2000
thats difficult to answer. Depends on loco type and then what you're interested in. Highly detailed locos include Athearn, Rapido, Intermountain, Scale Trains and some others.
that thing is sexy
i want one :D
Thanks for watching!
I saw a CN website on 11:14 shown. It's www.cn.ca Comment anything of this
TrainAwsome 9000 it’s there so anyone that sees the train can get the idea they have a website.
do i owe money/ yet/
if ur on ebay ill pay up..lol
check out the cvmrr on TH-cam
ok will do
BNSF ditchlights do not flash, why can't they get that correct???
It can be changed via CV.
I understand you can correct the ditch lights using a CV, but you should not have to. They do tons of research to make a model accurate, but don't even see the ditch lights don't flash on the BNSF version.
Why would anyone buy these when scale trains has these shipping soon for a lower price, higher detail and much more finely setup decoder per road number and prototype? Someone help me restore faith in humanity!, please
well for me personally it might give me chance to buy intermountain et44ac if some people are holding out for scaletrains et44ac. i think these models will sell out fast. i saw the other day on modeltrainstuff site bowser sd40-2f that they just got in and with in 2 hours all sold out. that fast. lucky i preorder my sd40-2f at my hobby shopjust in time too.
Skillium Inc. Only idiots buy this stuff at full MSRP so when discounts are put into perspective, they are about the same price. I do agree with you however and think the Scaletrains model is a slightly better model.
Skillium Inc. Scale Trains has not released their final product yet so I wouldn't judge till we see both "finished" products. The DCC ready/non sound does not come with a decoder on the Scale Trains, where as the Intermountain version does and they can be found for the same "street price". The price point is about $5 cheaper for the Intermountain DCC/sound vs Scale Trains when bought at "street price". Both companies are offering some differences in details/drive/etc.
The intermountain mechanism is junk, too much motor/gear noise at speeds 14/28 and up. When you want to run fast trains their models sound like buzzing bees.
This mechanism performed much better and was much more quiet than what you describe. I think this is an upgraded motor.