Thank you, this video has validated one of the most mind bending experiences of my life that I can never articulate, that no one wants to hear or would even believe.
Really? Your comment provokes me to wonder and ask you if you would share what happened to you because I used to refuse to share stuff because no one would believe. Actually, I think I had surrounded myself with the wrong people because not only would they not believe but they were simply "not interested" I'm intrigued, so maybe you can choose a few choice words to simply give me the bare facts? Or a glimpse into how it made you have this new perspective?
To the person who asked you to share more details of your "mind bending" past that cannot even now in healing be spoken off: coercion is so powerful a tool that skilfully used, the malignant narcissistic for example can get a beautifully brought up Sunday school teacher to perform degrading, obscene, unwanted, satanic, horrific acts in dangerous settings where potential exposure - with character ruination - part of the narcissistic thrill. This example, shall we say, is merely that, but the truth is even worse perhaps. So on a public forum, do not ask recovering victims to expose the evil that was perpetuated upon them. The answers are often so far into the dark abyss that NO ONE would believe that a decent human being could ever be brought so low as to perform them. I really hope that I have made my point. Thank you for understanding. ❤
@@nakuruhike7991 Yes. I am grateful you told me not to do this, I'm grateful for the challenge for me to Realise that this was not the right place to ask such personal and prying questions. Thank you for your anger. I apologise.
｡◕‿◕｡Please read this The First of Samuel 30 When David and his men came to Zikʹlag+ on the third day, the A·malʹek·ites+ had made a raid on the south* and on Zikʹlag, and they had attacked Zikʹlag and burned it with fire. 2
Richard, your experience with the therapist gaslighting you or pinging you as you called it. I’ve experienced this with a few therapists, I believed them, I thought I was a horrible person for trying to develop my boundaries. I started to look into videos on bad therapy and what to look for. There is and interesting guy on the TH-cam by the name of Daniel Mackler, he does a short and painful video on how therapists will intentionally damage their clients for a variety of reasons, one of wick you eluded to being that you know more about something than they do. This makes being radically honest about things VERY DIFFICULT. I was shattered by a trauma therapist a couple years ago and am still trying to put myself together. Realizing that there are people in this space to gratify themselves at our expense really gave me back a lot of stolen agency.
This is pure gold. Richard is spot on! As usual. He is absolutely right about hero worship and imitation of one's idols as an evolutionary strategy - his adolescent feelings towards Charlton Heston/Ben Hur were entirely natural and Hollywood in its heyday was brilliant at exploiting that natural tendency by providing incredibly glamorous alpha males and alpha females as role models. And it isn't just an adolescent tendency - a lot of narcissistic control is based on the narcissist having great charm, charisma and sex appeal and being highly seductive even to heterosexual members of the same sex. I knew a devastatingly successful somatic narcissist woman who could have anyone she wanted wrapped around her little finger in no time by exploiting her considerable beauty and sex appeal - even with straight women - who just fell at her feet - she was a master puppeteer. The only people who were immune to her hypnotic qualities were those of us she openly despised and had no time for. But even we could fall under her spell if she turned on the charm for a moment to get some favour out of us. What was especially upsetting was that her ugly side was incredibly ugly - she was one of the nastiest people I have ever known - gratuitously so - she was a sadist always attacking the weak purely for sport and to feel powerful. She was also frequently disappointing because behind the facade she was quite mediocre - a fairly average person - and very inauthentic and unoriginal - it was all clever window dressing. But I saw people fall for her act again and again and had to admit the power of her physical charms and seductiveness was indisputable which is why female stars have just as many if not more female fans. We long to have their power and observe closely hoping some of the magic will rub off on us if only we can learn their techniques of enchantment.
I think my IQ increases when I Listen to your discussions. In my opinion the said IQ drop in society is directly related to people working too many hours to try to make ends meet and stress and unreasonable expectations.
Edward Dutton is a very controversial person - I loved his interview with Richard - at one point I was helpless with laughter as Dutton is undeniably very bright and very very funny - but his findings on IQ are widely disputed. Rational Wiki has a very scathing entry on him which is clearly very biased but worth consulting just to get an idea of how controversial he is.
@@lostcause6100 Really? Okay thanks for the heads up, I had absolutely no idea he was a controversial chap but I confess I do quite like controversial types! I'm going to check out wiki later like you suggested. That said, I could literally "feel" my IQ level being challenged as I listened to them!! 😆
It’s so interesting to hear Mark talk about the comfort he finds in order, and more interestingly for myself his mention of visual order having a similar effect. I work with children on the Autism spectrum and lining up, organizing visuals and objects is what many of the children do to regulate themselves, it’s their happy place . However they will often get stuck there and are reluctant to move on from the organizing and would rather stay in their reality.
The luxury of surrendering responsibility to a great leader (good father) is pure joy in the same way that having to obey a poor leader (bad father) is sheer hell.
I am so grateful this video got to my email. I started listening to you when being a hostage and I did realise it. Trying so hard to get back on my feet. Keep up the good work.
Another idea- we are born to look up to and learn from our parents- we rely on them to provide a sense of safety, security, belonging, etc. So when they fail miserably, we turn to other sources to be our ‘heroes’ and in our vulnerable state we are gladly accepted by narcissists and cults where those primal needs are pseudo met.
I’m not done watching but I HAD to comment @~12:45 Richard talks about the “payoff” in narcissistic abuse… I hate being such a sycophant but OMG ding ding ding Richard nails it AGAIN!! Friends would ask me repeatedly what do I get out of remaining “friends” with this person who totally used me for his own self-serving needs as a human pet of sorts… the sense of Certainty that Richard articulates is exactly it. I’d never been able to verbalize that before, but it 100% rings true. He walks through life with sense of mixed arrogance and distain… there is no questioning his point of view, whether he’s qualified for a job, good enough to date, making the right life choices… in his view there IS no other way, always. And there is a sort of comfort that comes with being “partnered” with someone who is just seemingly is so cool and collected and has his shit so together, even if it is at the expense of all other interpersonal relationships. For someone such as myself who doubts herself *constantly*, the arrogance is welcomed oasis of outsourced confidence and decision making authority.
.... we learn that early, but when we see to much order for controlneeds, and not so much flexibilities, then we might wake up from the "spells" of those who looks like having their life totally together, and showup as, behind it all, might be a strong need to control, everything, and asking them why, never gets even a questionmark, or an answer. Just anger and or unjust defenses of, putting the other down in so many ways as possible, no dialogue ever. Then its off. And the "spell" breaks by itself.
Evil lurks in our weaknesses and, if we do not know them, allows us to meet them. I think that the size of our weaknesses corresponds to the size of the evil that affects us. Recognition is the solution.
Unless they experienced it for themselves, I don’t see their degree as being helpful at all. I’ve been through that shit enough. Their egos are always bigger than the damn degree, and it all just sounds metaphorical to them. Or delusional or exaggerated. They don’t understand the depth of how crazy making mental and emotional abuse is, and all they know is what they read, that is most likely outdated. Waist of time and aggravating as hell….further gaslighting a persons perception of their own reality of the trauma and abuse they have been through. It makes things worse if they just don’t get it.
It didn’t dawn on me until a few days ago that my boss I’ve had for 5 years that she’s probably a narcissist and her team of women are her flying monkeys. My denial and just blindness not seeing this after years of listening to u Grannon and Vankin since 2014. Denial and just blocks to seeing it and playing the game of self doubt and carrying the blame for everything and still not exist.
Thanks fellas, Ive watched and learned some good lesson from Richard. Taking the "personal" away from the narcissist is my best approach. The mirror effect. Turn that shit back on them and they will vanish. High Magick my friends.
The fact I allowed someone back into my life repeatedly that had verbally destroyed me on a level I never had never experienced before mind boggled me. I would have bet money after first thrashing they would never cross my threshold again, yet I did. The need for escape into the fantasy trumped my common sense, ethics, moral compass and financially. More importantly relationships that I may never be able to repair. I definitely was a willing participant in the narcissistic dance in hindsight. Without these type of discussions I am not sure I could have owned my part in the dance. Until the relationship nearly cost me my life I let that being walk in and out of my life at their leisure. Savior complex comes to mind. Ouch!
Please don't be so hard on yourself as you were not a "willing participant" but very carefully groomed narcissistic supply. In your 'right mind' you would never invite pain and abuse into your life. Glad you have your mind back again, as have I. 😊
Interesting discussion. Lots of useful thoughts and strategies. I do have to say, the actual explanations for what's happening at Boeing are very easy and typical. The company was founded on safety and careful engineering until it went through an acquisition and became public on the stock market, at which point they intentionally moved the headquarters away from the engineers in Seattle to Chicago so suits could focus on profit without pesky safety culture around. Ever since, for decades, mechanics have been ever more rushed and intimidated into submission. And it's coming home to roost. There's endless hard evidence of this, just mountains of testimony from engineers who spent their careers there, many going back before the acquisition. It breaks my heart to hear the engineers get blamed.
Hi Richard. Love your videos. I agree with what you said about people just being either evil or good? I believe this to be true. You can label them and analyse them all you want but at the end of the day, they are what they are, they choose to be the person they are. The only time its different is if they are brain damaged and have no control over their actions, that would be different. Put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig. ? 🥰
I agree with what you guys are saying that we have natural urges towards tribes, validation, narcissism even etc. But this is the difference between someone with self awareness or morals in how that fits in. For example a snake oil salesman will not fool everyone, even though it's naturally convenient for our own opportunism to want to believe it. So although it's relatable why people are selfish, 2 faced, hypocritical or gullible, there's levels that some people without critical thinking don't seem to recognise. There's certain events that happen outside of any of this where you can objectively see peoples critical thinking is non existent due to emotivism or personal bias to give very controdictory logic on what they are seeing. So if that same logic is applied to themselves they are going to fall into all the personality patterns you guys speak of.
@RobertSapolsky (Stamford) maybe able to answer the Vincente question of comfort with a strong leader - his massive volume of work with Bonobos and understanding of behavioural and evolutionary psyche
My ex, due to whom I am here, was actually a member of a religious cult. Not religion, a religious cult. He was actually born and raised in it . A leading member. No wonder why I went through all that. I have imposed total no contact. He breaks it, because he is that arrogant.
Yes…the oldest daughter of the oldest daughter is definitely one of the toughest men you’ll ever meet 🥴😋😂😂 Thank you for your time and thoughts gentlemen 💪🔥❤️☯️🖖🦋
Richard - you’ve become my “go to” relax - but Puhleeeze VINCENTE can you put out some mindfulness, reading stories … basically “anything” content … your tone but then unique mini. Unique speech “things” - it’s sleep neurochemistry without the side effects!! (You too “Richie” - but Y’know … ;))
For those interested, look up Mauro Biglino, and the books The Naked Bible, and Gods of the Bible. Hint: the old testament is not about God or spirituality.
At 48:38 Mark has a metatron's cube displayed in the background. Why does this trigger me? Mostly because of how it was used in the I Am cult I was in. Did anyone else enter a lightworker new age cult?
How do you know you were with a narc? You look back cus they are not here anymore and no.2 you look back at it like you were in a weird cult. Well done boys very true🎉
How can one heal from complex ptsd after being in toxic marriage with narcassistic husband and his family. And realizing my mother is toxic narc. How to educate my 13 year old daughter and keep her safe?
You Both have excellent audio. My hearing has detreated, I listen with a Bluetooth speaker. I'm almost certain Piers Morgan hasn't developed a lisp?!! I'm pretty sure he can afford Quality sound systems.
Richard: was the word you were looking for unhealthy? Mark: I think partly why some people endure pain and then help others do so for their own healing and/or have had proper support for their recovery and then can move on to helping others. For those who endure pain and go onto into the evil of hurting others may do so because they never had anyone to support and help them heal. They become wild cards taking out their pain on the world. Just some ideas?
Would either of you guys like to become the next Prime Minister of Australia? We could call it 'The Thinking Persons' Party?? Or 'The Sensible Persons' Party?? Great pay and perks. But sadly nobody will believe a word you say!! 😂 But just maybe they would! I do!!
The difference between the God of the Old Testament, and the God of the New Testament, is JESUS. His sacrifice of His life, to give us forgiveness and reconciliation to God. Jusus made the 'Law' written on paper, which was to be obeyed, ( in the old testament) into the 'Law' written on people's HEARTS, (the new testament) which they wanted to obey, because of LOVE, not FEAR.
@@annicamc they are not responding but 6s join groups for safety typically. They also question authoriy more than others. And 8s, yes, are typically the alpha males out sometimes bullies. They felt like their caregivers failed them, so they tend to take things into their own hands
Being prone to a percieved inferior undoes the egos assessment of inferior/superior. Enforcing cultural/personal values is the same lack of value. Then one cannot enforce ideals on others that one cannot live up to himself.
Oh I definitely did not do nothing. “Accountability” for my actions….and the dam flash backs that accompany that shit, is an entire 3 chapters of my dam book I’m thinking 🤔 maybe 4 🤦♀️🤦♀️🫣🫣🫣🫣
But I learnt to love and once I got educated because I wanted to be a god perant. I found out that this abuse was wrong. I'm grateful that I took this information to improve children's life I my career as a special needs teacher
No offence, but the cult is not about evolution but about surviving . The evolution is made from revolution, so it needs at least one person that puts a step outside of the cult. Every cult is looking for people not very young but in need
How are they splitting when talking about Fauci? He said that he owns 'The' Science, (as did a spokesperson at WEF) which is the most unscientific statement one could possibly make. Scientism is a cult. C o v I d is part of that cult. How dare folk critically think or question it!?! That was the trauma bond being created on a global scale with men in white jackets and criminals in suits (politians).
They weren't splitting. What they said was true. Hence they cannot even mention the name due to big tech & big pharma censorship. Narcissism on the macro scale.
Richard how are you coping in real life now. What advice would you give to us people who are genuinly suffering? Im not looking for a magic wonnd just guidence
Thank you, this video has validated one of the most mind bending experiences of my life that I can never articulate, that no one wants to hear or would even believe.
Really? Your comment provokes me to wonder and ask you if you would share what happened to you because I used to refuse to share stuff because no one would believe.
Actually, I think I had surrounded myself with the wrong people because not only would they not believe but they were simply "not interested"
I'm intrigued, so maybe you can choose a few choice words to simply give me the bare facts?
Or a glimpse into how it made you have this new perspective?
To the person who asked you to share more details of your "mind bending" past that cannot even now in healing be spoken off: coercion is so powerful a tool that skilfully used, the malignant narcissistic for example can get a beautifully brought up Sunday school teacher to perform degrading, obscene, unwanted, satanic, horrific acts in dangerous settings where potential exposure - with character ruination - part of the narcissistic thrill. This example, shall we say, is merely that, but the truth is even worse perhaps. So on a public forum, do not ask recovering victims to expose the evil that was perpetuated upon them. The answers are often so far into the dark abyss that NO ONE would believe that a decent human being could ever be brought so low as to perform them. I really hope that I have made my point. Thank you for understanding. ❤
@@nakuruhike7991 Yes. I am grateful you told me not to do this, I'm grateful for the challenge for me to Realise that this was not the right place to ask such personal and prying questions.
Thank you for your anger.
I apologise.
Janus. Find the right place to share IF you think its safe. You may find it helpful. On another note, you write well. Be well. x
｡◕‿◕｡Please read this
The First of Samuel
30 When David and his men came to Zikʹlag+ on the third day, the A·malʹek·ites+ had made a raid on the south* and on Zikʹlag, and they had attacked Zikʹlag and burned it with fire. 2
Richard, your experience with the therapist gaslighting you or pinging you as you called it. I’ve experienced this with a few therapists, I believed them, I thought I was a horrible person for trying to develop my boundaries. I started to look into videos on bad therapy and what to look for. There is and interesting guy on the TH-cam by the name of Daniel Mackler, he does a short and painful video on how therapists will intentionally damage their clients for a variety of reasons, one of wick you eluded to being that you know more about something than they do. This makes being radically honest about things VERY DIFFICULT. I was shattered by a trauma therapist a couple years ago and am still trying to put myself together. Realizing that there are people in this space to gratify themselves at our expense really gave me back a lot of stolen agency.
Sounds familiar.
This is pure gold. Richard is spot on! As usual.
He is absolutely right about hero worship and imitation of one's idols as an evolutionary strategy - his adolescent feelings towards Charlton Heston/Ben Hur were entirely natural and Hollywood in its heyday was brilliant at exploiting that natural tendency by providing incredibly glamorous alpha males and alpha females as role models.
And it isn't just an adolescent tendency - a lot of narcissistic control is based on the narcissist having great charm, charisma and sex appeal and being highly seductive even to heterosexual members of the same sex.
I knew a devastatingly successful somatic narcissist woman who could have anyone she wanted wrapped around her little finger in no time by exploiting her considerable beauty and sex appeal - even with straight women - who just fell at her feet - she was a master puppeteer.
The only people who were immune to her hypnotic qualities were those of us she openly despised and had no time for.
But even we could fall under her spell if she turned on the charm for a moment to get some favour out of us.
What was especially upsetting was that her ugly side was incredibly ugly - she was one of the nastiest people I have ever known - gratuitously so - she was a sadist always attacking the weak purely for sport and to feel powerful.
She was also frequently disappointing because behind the facade she was quite mediocre - a fairly average person - and very inauthentic and unoriginal - it was all clever window dressing.
But I saw people fall for her act again and again and had to admit the power of her physical charms and seductiveness was indisputable which is why female stars have just as many if not more female fans.
We long to have their power and observe closely hoping some of the magic will rub off on us if only we can learn their techniques of enchantment.
I think my IQ increases when I Listen to your discussions.
In my opinion the said IQ drop in society is directly related to people working too many hours to try to make ends meet and stress and unreasonable expectations.
Edward Dutton is a very controversial person - I loved his interview with Richard - at one point I was helpless with laughter as Dutton is undeniably very bright and very very funny - but his findings on IQ are widely disputed. Rational Wiki has a very scathing entry on him which is clearly very biased but worth consulting just to get an idea of how controversial he is.
@@lostcause6100 Really? Okay thanks for the heads up, I had absolutely no idea he was a controversial chap but I confess I do quite like controversial types!
I'm going to check out wiki later like you suggested.
That said, I could literally "feel" my IQ level being challenged as I listened to them!! 😆
State indoctrination (school) and the Tell-a-vision play a big part.
It’s so interesting to hear Mark talk about the comfort he finds in order, and more interestingly for myself his mention of visual order having a similar effect. I work with children on the Autism spectrum and lining up, organizing visuals and objects is what many of the children do to regulate themselves, it’s their happy place . However they will often get stuck there and are reluctant to move on from the organizing and would rather stay in their reality.
I designated with that also.
I found comfort in the organization also.
They also look for older people with money and a place to live. Then take full control of that space
The First of Samuel
29 The Phi·lisʹtines+ assembled all their armies at Aʹphek, while the Israelites were camping by the spring in Jezʹre·el.+ 2
What Future is there?
The luxury of surrendering responsibility to a great leader (good father) is pure joy in the same way that having to obey a poor leader (bad father) is sheer hell.
Dr Ramani. Thank God for her. Very few phsycologists fully understand narcissistic abuse
She gets a lots of things wrong actually
@@TheBakingGirlShow yes and her eyes look like a narc
I am so grateful this video got to my email.
I started listening to you when being a hostage and I did realise it.
Trying so hard to get back on my feet.
Keep up the good work.
Another idea- we are born to look up to and learn from our parents- we rely on them to provide a sense of safety, security, belonging, etc. So when they fail miserably, we turn to other sources to be our ‘heroes’ and in our vulnerable state we are gladly accepted by narcissists and cults where those primal needs are pseudo met.
Yes, exactly
I’m not done watching but I HAD to comment @~12:45 Richard talks about the “payoff” in narcissistic abuse… I hate being such a sycophant but OMG ding ding ding Richard nails it AGAIN!! Friends would ask me repeatedly what do I get out of remaining “friends” with this person who totally used me for his own self-serving needs as a human pet of sorts… the sense of Certainty that Richard articulates is exactly it. I’d never been able to verbalize that before, but it 100% rings true. He walks through life with sense of mixed arrogance and distain… there is no questioning his point of view, whether he’s qualified for a job, good enough to date, making the right life choices… in his view there IS no other way, always. And there is a sort of comfort that comes with being “partnered” with someone who is just seemingly is so cool and collected and has his shit so together, even if it is at the expense of all other interpersonal relationships. For someone such as myself who doubts herself *constantly*, the arrogance is welcomed oasis of outsourced confidence and decision making authority.
'Outsourcing' is such a 🎯 word in this context.
.... we learn that early, but when we see to much order for controlneeds, and not so much flexibilities, then we might wake up from the "spells" of those who looks like having their life totally together, and showup as, behind it all, might be a strong need to control, everything, and asking them why, never gets even a questionmark, or an answer. Just anger and or unjust defenses of, putting the other down in so many ways as possible, no dialogue ever. Then its off.
And the "spell" breaks by itself.
It gives a false sense of security and safety.
Thanks for articulating my thoughts❤. “Outsourcing” our confidence.
@@Levandetagthanks
Evil lurks in our weaknesses and, if we do not know them, allows us to meet them. I think that the size of our weaknesses corresponds to the size of the evil that affects us. Recognition is the solution.
Great insight. You can't unsee it when you understand narcissism you may find a better way, hopefully.
Thank you and I hope to see you two collaborate again.
Blind btayal because I wanted love. But never understood that these people have their own agenda.
Thank you for an inspiring conversation on difficult issues 😎
Ty Richard, love this guest. Listening to this while working.
Thanks for consistently bringing us good content, Richie❤️
Unless they experienced it for themselves, I don’t see their degree as being helpful at all. I’ve been through that shit enough. Their egos are always bigger than the damn degree, and it all just sounds metaphorical to them. Or delusional or exaggerated. They don’t understand the depth of how crazy making mental and emotional abuse is, and all they know is what they read, that is most likely outdated. Waist of time and aggravating as hell….further gaslighting a persons perception of their own reality of the trauma and abuse they have been through. It makes things worse if they just don’t get it.
It didn’t dawn on me until a few days ago that my boss I’ve had for 5 years that she’s probably a narcissist and her team of women are her flying monkeys. My denial and just blindness not seeing this after years of listening to u Grannon and Vankin since 2014. Denial and just blocks to seeing it and playing the game of self doubt and carrying the blame for everything and still not exist.
Thanks fellas,
Ive watched and learned some good lesson from Richard.
Taking the "personal" away from the narcissist is my best approach. The mirror effect.
Turn that shit back on them and they will vanish.
High Magick my friends.
The fact I allowed someone back into my life repeatedly that had verbally destroyed me on a level I never had never experienced before mind boggled me. I would have bet money after first thrashing they would never cross my threshold again, yet I did.
The need for escape into the fantasy trumped my common sense, ethics, moral compass and financially. More importantly relationships that I may never be able to repair. I definitely was a willing participant in the narcissistic dance in hindsight.
Without these type of discussions I am not sure I could have owned my part in the dance. Until the relationship nearly cost me my life I let that being walk in and out of my life at their leisure. Savior complex comes to mind. Ouch!
Please don't be so hard on yourself as you were not a "willing participant" but very carefully groomed narcissistic supply. In your 'right mind' you would never invite pain and abuse into your life. Glad you have your mind back again, as have I. 😊
@@nakuruhike7991 Thank you for your kind words.
I had a similar experience when I watched Ben Hur as a young person
Ah Mark, I thought I heard a hint of an accent!☺️ sending Big Love from your homeland❤🇿🇦 you are doing valuable work, thank you.
Brilliant discussion thanks for posting ! 🙏🏻
Interesting discussion. Lots of useful thoughts and strategies.
I do have to say, the actual explanations for what's happening at Boeing are very easy and typical. The company was founded on safety and careful engineering until it went through an acquisition and became public on the stock market, at which point they intentionally moved the headquarters away from the engineers in Seattle to Chicago so suits could focus on profit without pesky safety culture around. Ever since, for decades, mechanics have been ever more rushed and intimidated into submission. And it's coming home to roost. There's endless hard evidence of this, just mountains of testimony from engineers who spent their careers there, many going back before the acquisition. It breaks my heart to hear the engineers get blamed.
I'm glad you looked into cult psychology ❤
Hi Richard. Love your videos. I agree with what you said about people just being either evil or good? I believe this to be true. You can label them and analyse them all you want but at the end of the day, they are what they are, they choose to be the person they are. The only time its different is if they are brain damaged and have no control over their actions, that would be different. Put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig. ? 🥰
Total great talk great info talk thought
This is very interesting… great answers .
Omg Richard, this power struggle is hard to bear. But yes . I did this. To me. That's the hard fact
TY for helping me understand things!
I agree with what you guys are saying that we have natural urges towards tribes, validation, narcissism even etc.
But this is the difference between someone with self awareness or morals in how that fits in.
For example a snake oil salesman will not fool everyone, even though it's naturally convenient for our own opportunism to want to believe it.
So although it's relatable why people are selfish, 2 faced, hypocritical or gullible, there's levels that some people without critical thinking don't seem to recognise.
There's certain events that happen outside of any of this where you can objectively see peoples critical thinking is non existent due to emotivism or personal bias to give very controdictory logic on what they are seeing. So if that same logic is applied to themselves they are going to fall into all the personality patterns you guys speak of.
Deep. Yay. Some of us swimmers are so tired of shallow waters.
Hello to both of you. I felt I was in the cult of one
🦄 Dolt by John Rickel 🦄
Thank you 🎉
@RobertSapolsky (Stamford) maybe able to answer the Vincente question of comfort with a strong leader - his massive volume of work with Bonobos and understanding of behavioural and evolutionary psyche
Have either of you seen the documentary on the Twin Flames Cult in Michigan? Thoughts? How did it get so big?
My ex, due to whom I am here, was actually a member of a religious cult. Not religion, a religious cult.
He was actually born and raised in it .
A leading member.
No wonder why I went through all that.
I have imposed total no contact. He breaks it, because he is that arrogant.
Awesome! 😎
Yes…the oldest daughter of the oldest daughter is definitely one of the toughest men you’ll ever meet 🥴😋😂😂
Thank you for your time and thoughts gentlemen 💪🔥❤️☯️🖖🦋
150 people and we can make our own laws like an MD 😉😋😂😂😂
Richard - you’ve become my “go to” relax - but Puhleeeze VINCENTE can you put out some mindfulness, reading stories … basically “anything” content … your tone but then unique mini. Unique speech “things” - it’s sleep neurochemistry without the side effects!! (You too “Richie” - but Y’know … ;))
For those interested, look up Mauro Biglino, and the books The Naked Bible, and Gods of the Bible. Hint: the old testament is not about God or spirituality.
Really enjoyed this!
At 48:38 Mark has a metatron's cube displayed in the background. Why does this trigger me? Mostly because of how it was used in the I Am cult I was in. Did anyone else enter a lightworker new age cult?
Was in ... lol. ... still not out all the way.
How do you know you were with a narc? You look back cus they are not here anymore and no.2 you look back at it like you were in a weird cult. Well done boys very true🎉
How can one heal from complex ptsd after being in toxic marriage with narcassistic husband and his family. And realizing my mother is toxic narc. How to educate my 13 year old daughter and keep her safe?
My big brother was a narcissist and I was his target.
You Both have excellent audio. My hearing has detreated, I listen with a Bluetooth speaker.
I'm almost certain Piers Morgan hasn't developed a lisp?!!
I'm pretty sure he can afford Quality sound systems.
Richard: was the word you were looking for unhealthy?
Mark: I think partly why some people endure pain and then help others do so for their own healing and/or have had proper support for their recovery and then can move on to helping others.
For those who endure pain and go onto into the evil of hurting others may do so because they never had anyone to support and help them heal. They become wild cards taking out their pain on the world.
Just some ideas?
Would either of you guys like to become the next Prime Minister of Australia?
We could call it 'The Thinking Persons' Party??
Or 'The Sensible Persons' Party??
Great pay and perks. But sadly nobody will believe a word you say!! 😂
But just maybe they would!
I do!!
Question: can you give more info re country’s causing people that meltdown
I agree … the news was looking for everything. But then .. who wrote that news and why ?
The difference between the God of the Old Testament, and the God of the New Testament, is JESUS.
His sacrifice of His life, to give us forgiveness and reconciliation to God.
Jusus made the 'Law' written on paper, which was to be obeyed, ( in the old testament) into the 'Law' written on people's HEARTS, (the new testament) which they wanted to obey, because of LOVE, not FEAR.
No! But that is the problem. I just found out there is a name for it.
I had a horrible therapist. Yup. She didn’t understand abuse whatsoever. And she fell for the next abuser.
What is the link for jordan peterson on betrail and recovery?
I think enneagram 6s are attracted to cults and 8s to being the alpha male. Kind of a diverging insight
Interesting. Can you explain why?
@@annicamc they are not responding but 6s join groups for safety typically. They also question authoriy more than others. And 8s, yes, are typically the alpha males out sometimes bullies. They felt like their caregivers failed them, so they tend to take things into their own hands
I wonder if the Boeing mechanical issues are due to the wars and maybe their best talents are being recruited…
Is humanity getting dumber or is our nutrition getting worse?
Both
Being prone to a percieved inferior undoes the egos assessment of inferior/superior. Enforcing cultural/personal values is the same lack of value. Then one cannot enforce ideals on others that one cannot live up to himself.
Oh I definitely did not do nothing. “Accountability” for my actions….and the dam flash backs that accompany that shit, is an entire 3 chapters of my dam book I’m thinking 🤔 maybe 4 🤦♀️🤦♀️🫣🫣🫣🫣
When he say that, its total bulls1t. Its Like saying that women is guilty to be r@ped only coz she is a women. Such a BS
What is the symbol behind Vincente?
He resembles what a love child between you and Sam would look like!!😅
Q: what is the source of the shame?
The same women was never there emotionally but she was dealing with the narcissist abuse. So I'm torn
Is it too late to ask questions?
But I learnt to love and once I got educated because I wanted to be a god perant. I found out that this abuse was wrong. I'm grateful that I took this information to improve children's life I my career as a special needs teacher
💯🙏🕊️💖🕊️🙏💯
We are far from our natural environment inside and outside
Thought crimes. Will it ever end?
Fear yes
Good advice
No offence, but the cult is not about evolution but about surviving . The evolution is made from revolution, so it needs at least one person that puts a step outside of the cult. Every cult is looking for people not very young but in need
Really cool how you guys are splitting when talking about Fauci. It was a traumatic time so I'll give you a pass.
How are they splitting when talking about Fauci?
He said that he owns 'The' Science, (as did a spokesperson at WEF)
which is the most unscientific statement one could possibly make.
Scientism is a cult.
C o v I d is part of that cult.
How dare folk critically think or question it!?!
That was the trauma bond being created on a global scale with men in white jackets and criminals in suits (politians).
They weren't splitting. What they said was true.
Hence they cannot even mention the name due to big tech & big pharma censorship.
Narcissism on the macro scale.
Richard how are you coping in real life now. What advice would you give to us people who are genuinly suffering? Im not looking for a magic wonnd just guidence
Why Boeing? To take away your freedom of movement
According to UN Agenda 2030
UK will only have 1 working airport.
Just saying.
It seems to me that all the attension is on the narc. But us victims/survivers deal with coming back to us. How do we hesl
Love boming is like ice cream on top of shite. Never want to eat that eT
Thanks for the laugh, yeah, thats it, so greatly simple as that :)
That’s literally what it feels like .. ”this doesnt taste quite good ..”
Why these guy is joking and smiling about such important issues?!!
Lol I got educated too.
So then Richard. Is it the wY you belive you should be treated because of your historic belifwill treat you
No Richard.
It's evil its done deliberately
Question.??? Why did i fall for this shite???
L😅8th
The opposite was. You are all bad