It's great to have choices. I think Canon, Nikon and Sony are all great brand choices nowadays for Mirrorless. Depends on the user which system they prefer.
Totally agree. If you can’t crush it with any of these cameras, your problem is technique. Image quality and AF will be great on all (though worst on Canon b/c of the lower megapixel count). Consumers will pick which ever feels best in hand, has the glass they want/need and that they can afford. If you are lucky enough to own any of these three cameras, you win. Personally, I’d go for the Sony b/c I’m a wimp and place a high priority on weight. I need to hit the gym or something. :)
I think definetly they are coming with a smaller z8. I see the same sensor and expeed with just smaller buffer and some cutdown feature like no prores or even 8k 60p. It will be the perfect competitor to the R5. My only problem is when. The other brands have nowadays more or less a coherent line and for us, its z9 and then the rest. Its like a big gap in between, you just look in envy to those that can warrant the cost and just sit, because there is no R5.
I've got the a1 and I love the fact it's not too big. I like to shoot birds and wildlife but also go hiking with it clipped to my shoulder strap, the other 2 are just too big despite all 3 being great cameras
@@danielvilliers612 Z8 might be very high megapixel rather than a baby Z9, if it even exists and it's not just the Z7iii that folks are waiting for. I've got the Z6 too, and investing in lenses, but i'd love to see what the mark iii generation brings.
@@sarfaraz.hosseini Why should the Z8 has to be higher megapixel. Until now the D3-D6 have been lower megapixel, The Nikon D2x was the flagship high megapixel during the days. So Nikon always change model specification . Everyone was astonished by the high megapixel d800 which was supposed to be the successor of the D700. The Z8 will have to be a very high seller for Nikon, so a very broad camera spec and not a niche one. So I don't expect a high megapixel camera at all. At least not above 45 megapixel.
That’s why I love my Nikon Z9 !! I have the Sony A1 as well but once you see Nikon colors straight out of the box with no tweaking you will understand what’s so special about Nikon.
@Siddharth Sriram Both Nikon and Sony lenses are very sharp. There is no question about that. I typically use Zeiss Otus or Milvus lenses for shooting video which has amazing rendition and contrast. For run and gun situations I use native Sony or Nikon lenses which work perfectly . However if you are in a more controlled and slow pace scenario , i will advise you to look into manual Zeiss lenses. They are amazing !
Yeah that is important. Fod me im happy Canon have all the rf lenses i need and the ef to rf adapter works really good altoug i would prefer not to use one, nikons old lenses doesnt work that good on their new mirrorlwss camera .
I would take the Z9 hands down. Not just for the specs, Nikon Z Cameras are just so fun and nice to shoot with. It is hard to describe but I simply connect to Nikon cameras. The better screen, the menu, the shoulder display, the lcd display, all feels right.
Always great and fun video from you all. For me, there is not much chance of switching systems. With an extensive investment in Nikon lenses, I am very happy to see the Z9 being so competitive with the other two brands. Will have to get my order in! 😀
I'm so happy that I did not leave Nikon. I waited for this moment and picked up my Z9 last weekand. All I can say is WOW! I barely missed a shot while taking pictures of Eagles and they are soo sharp.
Just looking at the scenario a few months ago when everyone was criticising Nikon for its autofocus. The Z9 winning the autofocus defeating the sony A1 is an unbelievable feat. Edit : I do agree we need more thorough reviews. But do rememeber that in no situation involving action was Nikon close to Sony or Canon before. Let's wait for Steve Perry and Mark Smith to release their reviews for the wildlife and maybe Jared Polin for Sports comparison
Please wake me up when sport professionals or birders make a decent back to back comparison in which the Z9 has faster or more accurate AF than the A1. I haven't seen that even being tested in this video.
@@mirrorlessny Tracking software maybe. But focus speed mostly comes from the scanning speed of the fast stacked sensors. And those are too expensive to manufacture to be put in "cheaper" bodies.
How is the r3 the best with buffering? Has same fps and buffer as the a1 but at HALF the resolution. Any perceived loss due to the Sony compression is moot compared the loss of half the resolutions. Pretty dubious choice there guys
Because more images can fit in the same sized buffer? That effectively means that buffering is better. For Sony to have equivelent buffering they'd need to double the size and they didn't.
@@GrantMcWilliams this makes no sense. A1 and R3 reportedly can buffer the same number of images (150) yet sony has twice the resolution. Effectively the Canon has a buffer memory of half the size. How is that better?
So glad Nikon have got back into the game, my first proper camera was a Nikon and stuck with them for years but had to jump ship to Sony due to video requirements, can see me jumping back again!
Same here. I loved the D300, liked the D810. Waited and waited for video autofocus and 4K 60 but it took way too long. By the time it came out they were still behind Sony and Canon. Unfortunately I’m not overly thrilled with the Sony A1 I switched to last Spring. All these people drooling over image quality makes me want to catch that drool with a paper towel and clean their eyeballs with it. The video is good though, as long as autofocus is working.
Great video, that I watched in its entirety, despite the fact that I'll never own any of those cameras because of the extremely high prices... it must have been because of the three great hosts. Nice collaboration!
Well, they're pretty low res .jpg files. It's sort of a gimmick with only a few use cases - not something the average user would be considering as the main "burst rate".
@@oneeyedphotographer Yeah that's a possible use case. But I'm sure you agree that it's a bit limiting for most shooters. My first digital camera (Casio EX-F1) had a similar 60fps burst rate. Rarely got much use out of it.
Wow....the Nikon Z9 comes on top...great going Nikon. The only gap is Z mount lenses....but the AF adapter is awesome and not really feeling like the Nikon lacks lenses. VR is quite capable....per my usage, I think the Nikon is the best value camera.
I'm a Canon and Olympus shooter, but after viewing this, if I had to choose one of those three, I'd probably go with the Sony. Overall, I preferred what I was seeing with the Nikon, but they totally lost me at electronic shutter only. Too bad, really. As for Canon's controls, if I go by the EOS R, which I own, honestly, I generally prefer the control interface on my Olympus E-M1. Finally, the body is only part of the equation. From what I've seen, Canon and Nikon have pretty closed ecosystems when it comes to lenses for their new mounts. The availability of more reasonably priced third party lenses for the Sony mount makes that system so much more attractive to me. I kind of wish that I'd picked a different brand when I decided to add "full-frame" to my kit. As solid, and reliable as my Canon is, a couple of years in, I'm really not seeing enough advantages over my m43rds system to justify the investment, and there's no way I'm gonna pay for any more of that "L" glass. It's good, but waaay too much money. Please Sigma and Tamron, get some lenses out for RF and Z mounts.
@@strongereveryday2302 Yep, I have no doubt but as long as they are available, I'll probably want one on my camera. Unless, of course, the readout speed and readout method from the sensor becomes so good that there is absolutely no need for a mechanical shutter. We aren't quite there yet as far as I can see.
One of the major shooting hobbits I changed is to shoot with live view screen instead of looking through the at little hole. Nikon Z9 is the best in my option, it is flexible in viewing angles and it doesn’t flip to the side, to me having the camera align with the subject is very important.
Fun video but I couldn't disagree more. e.g. a 24@30 camera shouldn't beat a 50@30 camera in framerate. That category was really a math problem - how much data is a camera pushing at any given point? And yes, the a1 evf degrades in AF-C.... to the resolution of the R3 evf, so that's not an advantage for the R3, obviously, considering the a1 is higher res in AF-S and playback, and the same in continuous. Just some bizarre choices. Personally, I think it's a tie between the z9 and a1, depending on which features you'd rather have. e.g. the 1/400-1/500 flash sync on the a1 (Which you didn't even mention.) vs. the ergonomics of the z9. I could go either way, *ignoring lens selection*, which then becomes a clear sony win. But the R3 winning this roundup is kinda nuts - I don't even put the R3 in the same category as these cameras. The R3 is in the a9 roundup with the 24mp sports cameras. e.g. R3/a9/D6/1DX
Around minute 3:00 Nikon have better image quality. Look at that sharp and beautiful colour. Look at the Canon R3 😂. Nikon #1 Auto focus #1 Video recording #1 Price #2 Image quality (very close to Sony) Canon number #3 (last) Which one do you want?? Best auto focus, best on video recording, great price and great image quality. Plus can take pictures on 120 fps at 11mp which is enough. People still using 12mp canon DSLR these days
@@mirrorlessny Funny, for me it’s the opposite; I have always slapped a battery grip on my previous DSLR bodies just to get that full body handling that I need out in the field. Although I have the option to take it off I actually never do that because the vertical grip is so important to me. I also do a lot of hiking with it, always keeping it in my hand. Not tucked down in my backpack. That’s what I love about the Z9 and R3. Personally, I would never go mirrorless for the miniature body sizes only. That’s not what mirrorless is about, for me.
@@freetibet1000 @mirrorlessNY I think you guys are hitting on the exact conclusion that the video is making - that uses can pick the system that fits for them without sacrificing anything. Want a small and compact body? Get the Sony. Want the full body handling you're used to with DSLRs? Pick Canon or Nikon. No matter what you choose you're getting the best the industry has to offer, and that's a great place to be from a customer standpoint.
So, I've shot with a Canon R5 and compared it to a Nikon Z7 both using the same Canon 100-400mm lens courtesy a Fringer EF-NZ adapter. I was shooting industrial photos of a 6 GHz microwave radio and its dish antenna mounted up on a tower but from the ground. I really loved the R5 body and its controls, extremely well though out. I also like the Canon lens, which autofocused as quickly on both cameras! What really surprised me was the resolution difference between both cameras. The Nikon raw had more detail than the Canon with the same crop. The Nikon Z7 jpg with in camera processing was far superior to the Canon R5. In fact, except for more post capability, for a well exposed shot, the fine jpg mode of the Nikon was very adequate. I was unable to process the Canon raw to achieve the same detail I got from the Nikon jpg. I was shocked! I believe the R5 does have an anti aliasing LP filter on its sensor while the Nikon doesn't. That might have made the difference. I was really ready to switch to Canon due to the quality of the EF line of glass and the camera's ergonomics. But meat and potatoes image quality kept me from making the switch. So, my next camera will be a Z9, and unless the Nikon 100-400mm S series lens, when it is available, is truly better than the Canon, I'll stick with being a Nikanon shooter, best of both worlds.
Damn, I love your videos guys :). Nice to see, that the sony is such a great camera, even if its nearly one year older than the other two. As a nikon z9 shooter, I am so happy every day, that this camera does such a great job, I love it. And as said by many other before: It is nice to see, that every large brand has a camera, you can do almost everything with it ;). But there is one thing I did not understand in your comparison. It is the burst rate: Why is Sony on second place with lossy compressed raw? The Z9 has such a great format with the 14bit high efficiency * format, I can't see the difference. And with that format, it can do a lot lot more shots in a row. ;)
Nikon Z9 for me, why, well I have Nikon lenses so it doesn’t matter how these cameras compare I’m not going to ditch many years of buying Nikon lenses for another system, I have 40 year old MF lenses that will work just fine on the Z9 using the FTZ as will the latest lenses. If you’re new to this buy the system that works best for you, if you have a N or C or S system stick with it as it just isn’t worth changing because the differences are so small.
Your speed comparison didn’t make any sense. First you dismissed the 120fps of the Z9 because it is only @ 11mp, but then you said that mp don’t matter so Canon’s 24mp raw files were considered as equivalent to the z9’s 45mp files.
Not convinced by the burst rankings. What does the Sony and Nikon lose with compression? Some pixel data will be summed up, but the overall amount of data is probably still higher than the Canon. They should be compared at similar file sizes or resolutions.
the r3 not only better but much better, 4K with downsapling as well at 60fps the a1 only downsaples in apsc, then the a1 has an indecent bitrate, the r3 has the internal raw and there are a thousand other things, the a1 is not bad for having 50mpx, however, the r3 is much better
@@lorenzopreiti barely anyone cares about raw and those who do use monitors. also nobody cares about 1880mbs bit rates that eat your cards like there's no tomorrow only to be later compressed it down to 40mbps and published on youtube. Slog 3 is superior to clog3. Crop mode gives two focal lengths with not a huge difference in quality. 8k for fun and crop is available. FHD at 240 fps. Smaller, lighter, proper HDMI port. More lenses to choose from. overall the a1 is more balanced and complete, the R3 might be more powerful in fringe situations. thats ignoring the photography aspect.
OMG....that puppy stole the whole video! Do NOT put an insanely cute puppy in any video if you want people's attention for yourself. Sorry....a puppy like that will upstage whatever you are doing every time.
Although my baby the A1 only got 3rd place, it’s wonderful to see that all three companies have such strong showings in the market today. However I should point out that, in my opinion, Sony arguably has the best lens support out of the bunch. I get that this is a body comparison, but it’s such a crucial aspect of choosing a body that I think it deserves a mention.
They all have their lens line ups. Nikon has some excellent lens now that are decent price and great smaller size. Canon has amazing RF lenses which I’m in love with. No C/A, fringing, etc. Even the cheap 24-105 F4 is spectacular! Sony 24-105 F4 wasn’t anywhere near as superb as that. I was a Sony shooter recently too. They do have some affordable glass that’s great though. Tamron has some great ones too. A1 looks like an incredible camera! Sony has been killing of for years and they are the ones who started this whole mirrorless full frame fun!
It quite odd to think a sane person will splurge $6500 on a camera only to skimp on glass..when I see statements from fanboys like this it's obvious they ain't tried other systems. Canon && Nikon have a history of over 60 years of glass that will work on the mirrorless bodies ( sure some may not autofocus but you've got choices)..and these lenses have a character and not the clinical and digital look you get from recent lens (esp. Sony's glass)..
Let's be clear - all three are amazing cameras. If you own an existing model from any of these makes, there's little reason to swap manufacturer. We all gain from top-notch competition. I'm glad that Nikon seemed to have nailed AF. The interesting future is whether or not Canon, Sony, Panasonic, Fuji etc will drop their mechanical shutters or not & if Nikon manage to fix the banding issues that some are experiencing in LED-lit halls etc. The other interesting thing that Leica has done is pixel binning on their new M11 - I hope the other manufactures follow with their next models - lower high ISO noise at lower resolution or high resolution with more noise.
Why would you mention 14bit at 20, when all three cameras can do that (fact for the A1, reasonably sure for the R3)? Regarding the EVF brightness, I shoot mostly on sunny days (keeps the shutter speed fast and ISO low) and have never wanted the A1 finder to be any brighter. Maybe you don't know it's brightness can be configured?
@@daran0815 I shoot with both my eye open and it's amazing for that kind of shooting when it's bright out. I'm saying if Nikon wwntied to they could just drop it down to 12bit and they would get 30fps
Don't misunderstand me - I enjoy and subscribe to this channel, however, this is one video I will NOT be watching!! Why? Well, for me these interbrand comparison reviews are, for 95% of photographers, irrelevant! Well, that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. The vast majority of photographers cannot afford or justify brand switching. If we are serious, we already have a significant investment in our chosen brand - which ever it might be. And, let's be honest, they are all great cameras and so long as the photographer is competent and takes the trouble to learn how to use them, they will all give stunning results. I am certain that each unit will outscore the other two in one aspect or another. To me it is far more important to get good information on how to get the best from one's chosen brand / model not to be made to feel either smug because you chose the one that outscored the other two, or dissatisfied because your chosen one was beaten by the other two. And, let's face it, we know each manufacturer will continue to fine tune the performance, reliability, functionality etc. through firmware updates so they will continually leapfrog each other as time goes on. Rant over.
There are also new photographers that watch these kind of videos to figure out which brand to choose. They might not buy a flagship body as their first but if that's what they're aiming for in the future, choosing a brand based on the differences in those cameras can be a good move. That way they can start building a collection of lenses and then later buy a flagship used or new if they can afford it then. There are also the people that are transitioning to mirrorless cameras and that's a good time for changing brands if they feel like trying something different.
Great to see everyone having lots of fun and just showing off the quirks and strengths of each camera. Each on great and will fit into any ones tool belt quite nicely!
amazing debate, i like it. The three cameras display their respective advantages. now it depends on us, which one do we prefer, everything is good, depends on our preferences
All of these cameras look great. They're too expensive for my pocket book. Trickle that focus system down to a Z6 III or Z7 III then you can sign me up! 🤗
Is it me, or is Chris never shooting using the "DP Reviews Favourite" fully articulating screen? He always uses the OVF or EVF on cameras? Fully articulating for macro or birds makes finding a subject much harder, and slower to get the screen out initially.
He mentioned in another video that he does prefer to use the view finder if he can, "even on a tripod". I think the thing about the articulating screen is that maybe you don't use it a lot, but if you need it it's a lifesaver. My ancient camera only has an OVF, and if I can't get my face in the right spot then I just have to shoot blind and hope for the best.
Kyle completely forgot history when he smirked on the Z9 taking 11 MP images. that once upon a time Nikon d300S images with a 12 MP res were used for showroom posters and the like!
As a Sony shooter since the Mavica days, it is always great how Sony sets the bar and C/N follow along 1#2 years later. So the A1 is a fantastic camera ending in 3rd place, but you didn’t reveal each camera’s release date! If all three came out on the same day, I’d consider jumping ship, but we know the A1 has been here coming on 2 years while the C/N models came out a year or more later…enough said. (Wait for the A1 MII !)
I like all three, but size matters.....I want to get the Z9 but it is so big. That is my only issue with it. Great review. Wish Fuji's had a Xt5 that was 45mp....
After listening to it I am really happy that I use moder DSLR (K-3 Mk III) with real OVF, enough GPS to shot what I need to shot and nice sensor giving me enough IQ for A2 sized prints. It is not that much bigger and heavier then A1 and with 55-300 PLM lens I dare you to find lighter setup for full frame. And on top I saved lots of money compared to those three :P Mirrorless suck. OK, it lacks video capability but if I wanted to make video I would buy video camera not photo camera with video function.
I chose the R3 because I have canon glass that goes back 20 years and works with the adapter, the others may be better at somethings but for me to change to Nikon or Sony would cost a fortune, it’s a no brainer for me to stick with canon, I get the shots I want and I’m happy with the results.
Funny how these defenders of Sony, upset about how the comparison turned out, never seem to mention the video aspect comparison of this review among the three cameras. That's a tell-tale sign that something is going on. These are supposed to be "hybrid" cameras right? A note to cinematographers out there, you can't go wrong with the z9. Overall, a great comparison.
I've handled all three cameras at this point, but for me the size and weight of the body, lens options, AF performance and image quality (it is after all a camera) the A1 is the clear winner. Don't forget the A1 is at least a year older than its competitors.
One area, which wasn't mentioned was lenses and really that is just if not more important than the cameras themselves. Really you need to do a video on the lens situation for the different systems, with the new lenses available as well as the older lenses that can fit each system.
@@OkwyUgonweze I don't think so. The new lenses are way better than the old ones, this is especially important for mirrorless cameras where the subject can be anywhere in the frame, even at the edges where the new lenses are way sharper than the old ones. So adapting old lenses is only a temporary thing people do. Looking at the current lineup of new native lenses Sony has the edge because 3rd party lense makers like Sigma and Tamron have been adding excellent lenses at very affordable prices.
@@OkwyUgonweze sony will be in the first place for mirrorless lenses,even if you add the A mount lenses vs the f mount and ef(they had more prime lenses at the extreme telephoto focal lenghts)
All I care is photography, I chose Canon because I have to many EF lenses :). But my wish for Christmas this yr is a Z9 coupled with those fine standard zoom for in door sports.
@@stuntmonkey00 I am curious how Z6ii will perform with the new and supposed to have released update with real time tracking. The Z6 performed quite well after the last upgrade. Eye detect is now twice the distance.
That’s for a terrific video. Glad I’m still subscribed to “the camera store” as Evelyn is terrific. Lossless 90 frames buffer at 20fps, with a buffer that clears really quickly wins in my book over lossy compressed or 24 mp. Overall, I say the Z9 wins. I just am not sure how I’m going to afford it. let me just add, tongue in cheek, that if the Nikon is to heavy you can always try working out!
Yes, I agree! The fact that the Z9 clears the buffer so much faster than any other camera should have been mentioned much more clearly. For a body of this kind and use-case, that’s a very important factor. I also agree with you that the body size and ergonomics of the Z9 is well designed. Nikon ticked all the right boxes for me on this one. Unfortunately, I don’t know where to get the money from for it, ha ha! But that’s my problem!
Too many misses from Sony A1. I used to own everything Sony but then realize they cut a lot of corners. I mean what good is 240hz EVF when it drops to what 60hz when you are actually shooting?? To me that's BS. And the BS 30fps raw advertisement when its only lossy raw. I had a Sony smartphone that was the first 4k screen smartphone. Guess what, it only does 4K when viewing pictures. The rest of the time it's 1080p and there is no option to change it.
@@mlai2546 What on earth are you shooting that lossy isn't good enough for bursts? The A1 has the fastest AF with the only high rez 30fps RAW. For birding (what I shoot) it is ahead of the other two. It may be matched when shooting cars, if that is your thing...
@@mlai2546 Sony philosophy that every camera should be small, is backfiring for them. I mean they could have done a little bit bigger without even being as big as the two others, so as to ensure proper cooling, result there flagship camera which should be flawless in the field overheats.
In their review, DPReview spends a good amount of time talking about how great the z9 viewfinder is in spite of the specs and how in use it was as good or better than anything else. I guess they forgot about this…
Despite it not being as high resolution (even though it’s still way high resolution for such a small screen), the EVF is like three times brighter than any other EVF you can get. This will make it way nicer to use rather than a dimmer higher res screen.
@Hates Spam your kidding right? The R5 is a sports wildlife dream come true. Up until the Sony A1 came along the R5 was the best bird and wildlife mirrorless camera to date. Also cropping ability in post is a huge deal to many birds and wildlife shooters out there. The R5 had 20 fps electronic shutter just like the Sony A9II and more mega pixel. The bird eye detect autofocus was ground breaking and still is just as competitive as the A1. Just as a “suggestion” you might want take a relook at that camera. It’s won photogs over across the world
@Hates Spam well (lol) I’m using the Nikon Z6II and the Nikon D500 (dslr). However I’m interested in the Zed 9 but don’t like the pro body form factor. I want a small body like the A1. But I’m invested in lenses and not rich. So I’m considering switching to canon R5 actually.
@Hates Spam well I do a lot of street photography and wildlife, birds, birds in flight, general wildlife / squirrels, dogs etc. I also love landscape. My Z6II is a great all around camera however it doesn’t cut it for fast moving animals or people . Especially birds. I think to take my bird photography to the next level (besides great lenses) I need a camera that can shoot fast and track fast moving subject. My D500 does a decent job at fast moving but not amazing. Also I seen lots of stuff online of birds shot on a 600mm f4 lens then cropped in post that look much better than mine. I know that A7rIv is really good for that
It looks like a flagship and is priced like a flagship. I almost get the feeling that Canon changed the name of it from R1 to R3 after Sony launched the A1.
@@oneeyedphotographer I just know the entire lead up to the R3 it was rumored as the R1 then it dropped as the R3 and people started talking about the R1 immediately like the R3 was some sort of prosumer camera…. But at $5,999 I’m not buying that it wasn’t aimed as a flagship.
Great video. Many Thanks. Love to see a comparsion between the Nikon Z9 and the old Nikon DSLR D5 or D6 on the AF-C tracking front. Value for money is the key for me as an action photographer. 12fps is more than enough for me. 7,000 photos per event is already too much. Doubling it by treating the camera as a German MG2 machine gun is not the way forward. Accuracy is far more important to achieve an optimum workflow.
All these cameras are more capable than the photographers likely to use them. Though spending this much (and not shooting sports) I'd want more than 24mp for this kinda of money in 2022.
Great review.. They are all wonderful cameras, but if you're already invested into the lenses, this may be the deciding factor in the end. I already have a few G-Master for my Sony a9 and a7r3, not simple to change horses when heavily invested $$.
After watching this, I realize that my Sony A7R3 is an absolutely fantastic camera and I don't need to update my camera. I've shot wildlife, sports, music festivals, etc with this camera, including full studio photography, etc. It is an all-around great camera. So glad I got it now.
@@RichardoBrit ana7 r4 has many improvements and costs way less. Not sure why you would spend the 6000dolars euros for the others give. Your current choice of camera
Entertaining and informative! That's what I love about DPReview TH-cam posts. I have zero interest in buying any of these cameras but I always learn something new from these posts. Thank you for being honest and trustworthy!
I would like to see lowlight shooting, NIKKOR Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct on a Z9, a Gh5 II (2) and adapted glass, Canons best/fastest Options, and Sonys options. As I own and use a Gh5 and M.Xl X0,64 with some Sigma F1.8 glass and Canons F1.4's I know that it is not close to Native lenses, the extra 1 1/3 stop gained from an (xl) booster is something else, it adds something to pictures/videos that are "not math", it's more interesting with a booster. A test Pls?
The lower iso is more useful for using slower shutter speeds than it is for any extra image quality. You just won't get any visible difference with the noise when viewing the image globally, ( as opposed to zooming right in on the computer) , so I personally dont regard the difference as being important.
Personally when it comes to video I actually prefer the a1, the smaller body makes it easier to rig, and it’s 4K recording while softer has a stop better dynamic range over its 8k option*. And it has insanely good rolling shutter performance. Both of the specs to me are far more important then the oversampled 4K. Especially if you trying to do some more ““cinematic”” since rolling shutter performance and dynamic are critical to trying to make it look less “like video”. Plus you can always shoot 8k and do the oversampling it post with even more options available as far as creating 4K deliverables in 4K. (though of course the z9 can do this as well.) The photo advantage from the a1 comes with the mechanical shutter and the anti flicker options, I really hope the z9 adds in more of these flicker functions in firmware updates, since I would really hate for people to get heavily banded shots. Still it’s extremely cool to see such highly speced out and similar cameras, each of them could be fairly labeled as a flagship model and true hybrid in my opinion. * this lab test shows that the z9 is not properly down sampling at 4K and thus does not get a large dynamic range boost, however you still are stuck with a rolling shutter of 14 ms versus the A1’s 8.5ms. It also had a quote from Nikon Japan regarding the prioritizing of resolution in that mode. www.cined.com/nikon-z-9-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude-test/
Though R3 shots lossless raw in 30fps, the image quality is still way worse than the lossy raw on A1. So if the IQ of R3 is acceptable, lossy raw shouldn't be a problem.
@@lorenzopreiti DR is part of the IQ. And R3 achieved an acceptable DR only because it baked noise reduction in raw. If you apply the same amount of NR to any other cameras, they will get extra 0.7 stops of DR at least.
@Siddharth Sriram BSI sensors don't automatically have better image quality, especially for large pixel sizes. The DR of R3 did improve, but still not at the same level as the other two. You can find some further discussion on the DPReview forum if you are interested.
As a Sony guy, bulky size excepted, the z9 is a beast of a camera. But for me, due to its compactness and overall still good performance, the a1 takes it.
I shoot Sony and Canon but in the realm of Birds in Flight Photography which I find the most challenging Sony is unmatched! It is not just the camera but the lens system support that seals the deal. G-Master 400 mm and 600 mm lenses are amazing and the 200-600 mm zoom is very flexible and a great value. When I go to the lake I always have my Alpha one and my Sony glass. My Canon is too heavy for serious Birds in Flight photography in my opinion. I have no recent experience with Nikon as I gave up on them years ago when they became so uncompetitive. I don’t think they have the modern light weight glass to support Birds in Flight photography.
For me top level performance and extensive customization make the A1 top dog. I haven't done side by side testing but 7 months with my A1, very happy with it.
I find your auto focus results a little strange. I’ve spent a lot of time with the Sony A1 and the canon R5 and I find that the auto focus tracking, at least on animals, is better on the our R5, so I assume the R3 is even better?
YAS! A crossover episode!
Multiverse is real
CameraLabs/DPReview crossover when? 😉
@@sgtLPH I'm here for it!
Same universe confirmed
@@githinkumarkuttu DC & Marvel team up!
Nice of Jordan to finally refer to Chris as his spouse.
Does Evelyn like it? 😀
It's great to have choices. I think Canon, Nikon and Sony are all great brand choices nowadays for Mirrorless. Depends on the user which system they prefer.
100% agree, there's so much negativity about better this faster that, they are all amazing 😵 what a magical time to be alive
Totally agree. If you can’t crush it with any of these cameras, your problem is technique. Image quality and AF will be great on all (though worst on Canon b/c of the lower megapixel count). Consumers will pick which ever feels best in hand, has the glass they want/need and that they can afford. If you are lucky enough to own any of these three cameras, you win. Personally, I’d go for the Sony b/c I’m a wimp and place a high priority on weight. I need to hit the gym or something. :)
I just need lots of bokeh and super reliable eye tracking autofocus. Which system is best for that?
@@Seanonyoutube these have same bokeh, I think Sony has the edge with AF at lower budget like A7iv a7C
@@mirrorlessny but max aperture for Sony is 1.4? I heard Canon 85mm RF f/1.2 is sick. My budget for body + lens is about 6k USD.
Z6 shooter here. I love what Nikon has done with the Z9 but I'd love it in a smaller body. I'd upgrade if Nikon drops the rumored "Z8"
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I think definetly they are coming with a smaller z8. I see the same sensor and expeed with just smaller buffer and some cutdown feature like no prores or even 8k 60p. It will be the perfect competitor to the R5. My only problem is when. The other brands have nowadays more or less a coherent line and for us, its z9 and then the rest. Its like a big gap in between, you just look in envy to those that can warrant the cost and just sit, because there is no R5.
I've got the a1 and I love the fact it's not too big. I like to shoot birds and wildlife but also go hiking with it clipped to my shoulder strap, the other 2 are just too big despite all 3 being great cameras
@@danielvilliers612 Z8 might be very high megapixel rather than a baby Z9, if it even exists and it's not just the Z7iii that folks are waiting for. I've got the Z6 too, and investing in lenses, but i'd love to see what the mark iii generation brings.
@@sarfaraz.hosseini Why should the Z8 has to be higher megapixel. Until now the D3-D6 have been lower megapixel, The Nikon D2x was the flagship high megapixel during the days. So Nikon always change model specification . Everyone was astonished by the high megapixel d800 which was supposed to be the successor of the D700. The Z8 will have to be a very high seller for Nikon, so a very broad camera spec and not a niche one. So I don't expect a high megapixel camera at all. At least not above 45 megapixel.
Camera's aside I think Jordan deserves some recognition for his excellent video recording and editing skills, bravo.
Yes and the fact that he never blinks
@Headass Vegan 😅 he is video yoda
Jordan works his butt off!
Also for me as for a not native English speaker, Jordan speaks much more understandable. I always struggle listening to Chris.
That’s why I love my Nikon Z9 !! I have the Sony A1 as well but once you see Nikon colors straight out of the box with no tweaking you will understand what’s so special about Nikon.
@Siddharth Sriram Both Nikon and Sony lenses are very sharp. There is no question about that.
I typically use Zeiss Otus or Milvus lenses for shooting video which has amazing rendition and contrast. For run and gun situations I use native Sony or Nikon lenses which work perfectly . However if you are in a more controlled and slow pace scenario , i will advise you to look into manual Zeiss lenses. They are amazing !
Also the Nikon's overall experience and ergonomics are far superior! ❤🙌
So true! I tried the Sony once.. hated the Color’s among other things as well.. love my Z9! Awesome Color’s always
with digital has really no sense to talk about colors.
@@SuomiFinland78 cheap what ? Not sure what you are referring?
I think one of the most important aspects is missing: the lenses available.
Agreed, especially if you're on a budget I always recommend sony to people since there is so many great cheap 3rd party lens options
Yeah that is important. Fod me im happy Canon have all the rf lenses i need and the ef to rf adapter works really good altoug i would prefer not to use one, nikons old lenses doesnt work that good on their new mirrorlwss camera .
Yep agreed, you have a date with a camera but you marry the lenses 😉👋
@@fragu123 This is a very good metaphor! And the cost of a divorce with the lenses is probably very high.
@@YakAlmighty as if people on a budget buy such cameras - sit down, F.
You’re all wrong: The puppy is the clear winner.
So TRUE....I found myself WAY more interested in the puppy than the debate about the cameras. Puppy wins...
I would take the Z9 hands down. Not just for the specs, Nikon Z Cameras are just so fun and nice to shoot with.
It is hard to describe but I simply connect to Nikon cameras. The better screen, the menu, the shoulder display, the lcd display, all feels right.
Always great and fun video from you all. For me, there is not much chance of switching systems. With an extensive investment in Nikon lenses, I am very happy to see the Z9 being so competitive with the other two brands. Will have to get my order in! 😀
I'm so happy that I did not leave Nikon. I waited for this moment and picked up my Z9 last weekand. All I can say is WOW! I barely missed a shot while taking pictures of Eagles and they are soo sharp.
Just looking at the scenario a few months ago when everyone was criticising Nikon for its autofocus. The Z9 winning the autofocus defeating the sony A1 is an unbelievable feat.
Edit : I do agree we need more thorough reviews. But do rememeber that in no situation involving action was Nikon close to Sony or Canon before. Let's wait for Steve Perry and Mark Smith to release their reviews for the wildlife and maybe Jared Polin for Sports comparison
Unbelievable is a perfect choice of words for this one...lol
Please wake me up when sport professionals or birders make a decent back to back comparison in which the Z9 has faster or more accurate AF than the A1. I haven't seen that even being tested in this video.
the big question is how much of Z9 autofocusing prowess will trickle down to future versions of Z5 Z6 Z7, I hope all of it 🎬📷Z9 is such a beast 😵
@@mirrorlessny Tracking software maybe. But focus speed mostly comes from the scanning speed of the fast stacked sensors. And those are too expensive to manufacture to be put in "cheaper" bodies.
@@daran0815 That will change.
How is the r3 the best with buffering? Has same fps and buffer as the a1 but at HALF the resolution. Any perceived loss due to the Sony compression is moot compared the loss of half the resolutions. Pretty dubious choice there guys
Probably payed shilling
Because more images can fit in the same sized buffer? That effectively means that buffering is better. For Sony to have equivelent buffering they'd need to double the size and they didn't.
@@GrantMcWilliams this makes no sense. A1 and R3 reportedly can buffer the same number of images (150) yet sony has twice the resolution. Effectively the Canon has a buffer memory of half the size. How is that better?
So glad Nikon have got back into the game, my first proper camera was a Nikon and stuck with them for years but had to jump ship to Sony due to video requirements, can see me jumping back again!
Same here. I loved the D300, liked the D810. Waited and waited for video autofocus and 4K 60 but it took way too long. By the time it came out they were still behind Sony and Canon. Unfortunately I’m not overly thrilled with the Sony A1 I switched to last Spring. All these people drooling over image quality makes me want to catch that drool with a paper towel and clean their eyeballs with it. The video is good though, as long as autofocus is working.
Didn't realize the Drakes are double dipping in the YT world... Good work
Looks like Nikon Z9 has better build quality as usual with nikon cameras that's why i love Nikon. D700,D3 nothing to compare with.
Hard to go wrong with any of these cameras
Great video, that I watched in its entirety, despite the fact that I'll never own any of those cameras because of the extremely high prices... it must have been because of the three great hosts. Nice collaboration!
Great point. Same here (can't afford them). It's nice though that this technology will eventually trickle down to the less expensive models.
Calm down it's 18 mins, not 8 hours, most people who watched this won't buy any of them.
@@chrisogrady28 Trolling ?
I dream and wish so badly lol
I absolutely love watching you guys.Thanks for a great side by side comparison.
OMG that puppy. Showstopper and winner of this video. If I had to choose I'd go with the Z9. Price, af, video, winner winner camera.
I am so happy about how Nikon catched up so well with Nikon Z9
ive used sony for 14 years and have no thoughts in moving to canon or nikon so for me the A1 is insane and perfect for my uses
If you weren't considering resolution while discussing the burst rate, why not give the Z9 more credit for the 120 fps?
Because they weren't discussing it withing reason haha.
Because they're jpegs
Well, they're pretty low res .jpg files. It's sort of a gimmick with only a few use cases - not something the average user would be considering as the main "burst rate".
@@logitech4873 I think photojournalists might use it when they need speed. It's likely their editors require JPEG images.
@@oneeyedphotographer Yeah that's a possible use case. But I'm sure you agree that it's a bit limiting for most shooters.
My first digital camera (Casio EX-F1) had a similar 60fps burst rate. Rarely got much use out of it.
Probably the best review of the top 3 cameras out there. Exactly as it should be, clear fun with no bashing of either brands :-)
The Z9 viewfinder is way brighter than the others. It's great in low light.
Z9 all day! Currently the best selling mirrorless cam!!
I wish it any of these were in my budget. I would go with z9 if I was getting one of these.
Wow....the Nikon Z9 comes on top...great going Nikon. The only gap is Z mount lenses....but the AF adapter is awesome and not really feeling like the Nikon lacks lenses. VR is quite capable....per my usage, I think the Nikon is the best value camera.
It seems you can adapt E mount lenses to the Z mount ;)
Also the best experience camera! ❤🙌
I'm a Canon and Olympus shooter, but after viewing this, if I had to choose one of those three, I'd probably go with the Sony. Overall, I preferred what I was seeing with the Nikon, but they totally lost me at electronic shutter only. Too bad, really. As for Canon's controls, if I go by the EOS R, which I own, honestly, I generally prefer the control interface on my Olympus E-M1. Finally, the body is only part of the equation. From what I've seen, Canon and Nikon have pretty closed ecosystems when it comes to lenses for their new mounts. The availability of more reasonably priced third party lenses for the Sony mount makes that system so much more attractive to me. I kind of wish that I'd picked a different brand when I decided to add "full-frame" to my kit. As solid, and reliable as my Canon is, a couple of years in, I'm really not seeing enough advantages over my m43rds system to justify the investment, and there's no way I'm gonna pay for any more of that "L" glass. It's good, but waaay too much money. Please Sigma and Tamron, get some lenses out for RF and Z mounts.
Pretty soon there will be no such thing as mechanical shutter.
@@strongereveryday2302 Yep, I have no doubt but as long as they are available, I'll probably want one on my camera. Unless, of course, the readout speed and readout method from the sensor becomes so good that there is absolutely no need for a mechanical shutter. We aren't quite there yet as far as I can see.
Best bang for your buck will always be the Nikon Z9 🙌🏻
Welcome back Nikon !!
One of the major shooting hobbits I changed is to shoot with live view screen instead of looking through the at little hole. Nikon Z9 is the best in my option, it is flexible in viewing angles and it doesn’t flip to the side, to me having the camera align with the subject is very important.
Fun video but I couldn't disagree more. e.g. a 24@30 camera shouldn't beat a 50@30 camera in framerate. That category was really a math problem - how much data is a camera pushing at any given point? And yes, the a1 evf degrades in AF-C.... to the resolution of the R3 evf, so that's not an advantage for the R3, obviously, considering the a1 is higher res in AF-S and playback, and the same in continuous. Just some bizarre choices.
Personally, I think it's a tie between the z9 and a1, depending on which features you'd rather have. e.g. the 1/400-1/500 flash sync on the a1 (Which you didn't even mention.) vs. the ergonomics of the z9. I could go either way, *ignoring lens selection*, which then becomes a clear sony win. But the R3 winning this roundup is kinda nuts - I don't even put the R3 in the same category as these cameras. The R3 is in the a9 roundup with the 24mp sports cameras. e.g. R3/a9/D6/1DX
Well i tried all three and they are really close
Yes, exactly.
To have a 24MP camera in a flagship camera comparison in 2022 is already a bit of a joke but to make it win “tie” is non-sense really.
Around minute 3:00 Nikon have better image quality. Look at that sharp and beautiful colour. Look at the Canon R3 😂.
Nikon #1 Auto focus
#1 Video recording
#1 Price
#2 Image quality (very close to Sony) Canon number #3 (last)
Which one do you want?? Best auto focus, best on video recording, great price and great image quality. Plus can take pictures on 120 fps at 11mp which is enough. People still using 12mp canon DSLR these days
exactly :)
A year ago when only the a1 was out it's be hard to believe it would come in 3rd in any ranking. Shows how far the industry has come in a short time.
But even without any lens from these systems, I would pick a1 just because of the smaller size, efficient codec, lens selection.
@@frankfeng2701 yea portability is the big winning factor for A1, but overall it's awesome to see capable & even superior alternatives
@@mirrorlessny Funny, for me it’s the opposite; I have always slapped a battery grip on my previous DSLR bodies just to get that full body handling that I need out in the field. Although I have the option to take it off I actually never do that because the vertical grip is so important to me. I also do a lot of hiking with it, always keeping it in my hand. Not tucked down in my backpack. That’s what I love about the Z9 and R3. Personally, I would never go mirrorless for the miniature body sizes only. That’s not what mirrorless is about, for me.
Yeah but it's DPRTV so you expect the Sony to lose.
@@freetibet1000 @mirrorlessNY I think you guys are hitting on the exact conclusion that the video is making - that uses can pick the system that fits for them without sacrificing anything. Want a small and compact body? Get the Sony. Want the full body handling you're used to with DSLRs? Pick Canon or Nikon. No matter what you choose you're getting the best the industry has to offer, and that's a great place to be from a customer standpoint.
So, I've shot with a Canon R5 and compared it to a Nikon Z7 both using the same Canon 100-400mm lens courtesy a Fringer EF-NZ adapter. I was shooting industrial photos of a 6 GHz microwave radio and its dish antenna mounted up on a tower but from the ground. I really loved the R5 body and its controls, extremely well though out. I also like the Canon lens, which autofocused as quickly on both cameras! What really surprised me was the resolution difference between both cameras. The Nikon raw had more detail than the Canon with the same crop. The Nikon Z7 jpg with in camera processing was far superior to the Canon R5. In fact, except for more post capability, for a well exposed shot, the fine jpg mode of the Nikon was very adequate. I was unable to process the Canon raw to achieve the same detail I got from the Nikon jpg. I was shocked! I believe the R5 does have an anti aliasing LP filter on its sensor while the Nikon doesn't. That might have made the difference. I was really ready to switch to Canon due to the quality of the EF line of glass and the camera's ergonomics. But meat and potatoes image quality kept me from making the switch. So, my next camera will be a Z9, and unless the Nikon 100-400mm S series lens, when it is available, is truly better than the Canon, I'll stick with being a Nikanon shooter, best of both worlds.
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Damn, I love your videos guys :). Nice to see, that the sony is such a great camera, even if its nearly one year older than the other two. As a nikon z9 shooter, I am so happy every day, that this camera does such a great job, I love it. And as said by many other before: It is nice to see, that every large brand has a camera, you can do almost everything with it ;).
But there is one thing I did not understand in your comparison. It is the burst rate: Why is Sony on second place with lossy compressed raw? The Z9 has such a great format with the 14bit high efficiency * format, I can't see the difference. And with that format, it can do a lot lot more shots in a row. ;)
Sony's perfected the art of blowing smoke..... 30/20fps in raw but at what quality ? You're absolutely right about this observation
Please learn how to use commas.
Nikon Z9 for me, why, well I have Nikon lenses so it doesn’t matter how these cameras compare I’m not going to ditch many years of buying Nikon lenses for another system, I have 40 year old MF lenses that will work just fine on the Z9 using the FTZ as will the latest lenses. If you’re new to this buy the system that works best for you, if you have a N or C or S system stick with it as it just isn’t worth changing because the differences are so small.
11:36 😂 when videographer is set free, awesome comparison, many aspects discussed by niche professionals, thank you so much 🙏
Nikon won for AF and Video!!! 🤯❤🙌 Whaaaaaaaaaaaa...
Ya know . . . there's a fourth option, and that option is $7,000 in your pocket.
How many megapixels does it have?
@@MrAmchuk As many as best second/new camera you can buy for £1000 - £1500
Your speed comparison didn’t make any sense. First you dismissed the 120fps of the Z9 because it is only @ 11mp, but then you said that mp don’t matter so Canon’s 24mp raw files were considered as equivalent to the z9’s 45mp files.
11mp jpeg
@@hut640 yes I know, so?
Nowadays all these top mirrorless cameras are awesome. It all depends on the photographer.
Not convinced by the burst rankings. What does the Sony and Nikon lose with compression? Some pixel data will be summed up, but the overall amount of data is probably still higher than the Canon.
They should be compared at similar file sizes or resolutions.
Just hope Nikon puts the swivel screen and expeed 7 in the Z8/Z6 III. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
They need it real bad!
Not if the cost is a mini HDMI port or sacrificing some of their connections for it like Canon did.
No need to thank The Camera Store - This is literally The Camera Store !!
Looks like Sony is doing very well in the categories most important in a camera: image quality and autofocus:)
Im still debating between nikon and panasonic
r3 is better for video than A1? I call bullshit on that. crop mode alone should tip the scale.
The A1 also gains a lot of video ground if you're willing to pair it with an Atomos Ninja.
the r3 not only better but much better, 4K with downsapling as well at 60fps the a1 only downsaples in apsc, then the a1 has an indecent bitrate, the r3 has the internal raw and there are a thousand other things, the a1 is not bad for having 50mpx, however, the r3 is much better
The r3 is much better for video what are you smoking
@@lorenzopreiti barely anyone cares about raw and those who do use monitors. also nobody cares about 1880mbs bit rates that eat your cards like there's no tomorrow only to be later compressed it down to 40mbps and published on youtube. Slog 3 is superior to clog3. Crop mode gives two focal lengths with not a huge difference in quality. 8k for fun and crop is available. FHD at 240 fps. Smaller, lighter, proper HDMI port. More lenses to choose from. overall the a1 is more balanced and complete, the R3 might be more powerful in fringe situations. thats ignoring the photography aspect.
OMG....that puppy stole the whole video! Do NOT put an insanely cute puppy in any video if you want people's attention for yourself. Sorry....a puppy like that will upstage whatever you are doing every time.
Kyle's work is excellent. Guy has a great eye.
Thank you Joe
Although my baby the A1 only got 3rd place, it’s wonderful to see that all three companies have such strong showings in the market today. However I should point out that, in my opinion, Sony arguably has the best lens support out of the bunch. I get that this is a body comparison, but it’s such a crucial aspect of choosing a body that I think it deserves a mention.
A Canon shooter still has the range of EF lenses to draw on. I'd not switch brand unless I was confident my existing lenses will work wll enough.
They all have their lens line ups. Nikon has some excellent lens now that are decent price and great smaller size.
Canon has amazing RF lenses which I’m in love with. No C/A, fringing, etc. Even the cheap 24-105 F4 is spectacular! Sony 24-105 F4 wasn’t anywhere near as superb as that. I was a Sony shooter recently too. They do have some affordable glass that’s great though. Tamron has some great ones too.
A1 looks like an incredible camera! Sony has been killing of for years and they are the ones who started this whole mirrorless full frame fun!
It quite odd to think a sane person will splurge $6500 on a camera only to skimp on glass..when I see statements from fanboys like this it's obvious they ain't tried other systems. Canon && Nikon have a history of over 60 years of glass that will work on the mirrorless bodies ( sure some may not autofocus but you've got choices)..and these lenses have a character and not the clinical and digital look you get from recent lens (esp. Sony's glass)..
??? The Nikon at least has the FTZ adapter to use like 20 years worth of previous F lens. You’ve got well over 100 lenses right there.
Let's be clear - all three are amazing cameras. If you own an existing model from any of these makes, there's little reason to swap manufacturer. We all gain from top-notch competition. I'm glad that Nikon seemed to have nailed AF.
The interesting future is whether or not Canon, Sony, Panasonic, Fuji etc will drop their mechanical shutters or not & if Nikon manage to fix the banding issues that some are experiencing in LED-lit halls etc.
The other interesting thing that Leica has done is pixel binning on their new M11 - I hope the other manufactures follow with their next models - lower high ISO noise at lower resolution or high resolution with more noise.
Thanks a lot fo the info about the LED banding issue :)
No one mentions that Nikon shoots at 14bit raw at 20. And the viewfinder is way brighter on z9
Why would you mention 14bit at 20, when all three cameras can do that (fact for the A1, reasonably sure for the R3)? Regarding the EVF brightness, I shoot mostly on sunny days (keeps the shutter speed fast and ISO low) and have never wanted the A1 finder to be any brighter. Maybe you don't know it's brightness can be configured?
@@daran0815 I shoot with both my eye open and it's amazing for that kind of shooting when it's bright out. I'm saying if Nikon wwntied to they could just drop it down to 12bit and they would get 30fps
Canon can shoot 14bit raw at 30fps
@@mbismbismb it's only 24mp though
@@airjaff but it's only 20fps 🙄
Seeing the future of cameras makes me want the Nikon DF.
Don't misunderstand me - I enjoy and subscribe to this channel, however, this is one video I will NOT be watching!! Why? Well, for me these interbrand comparison reviews are, for 95% of photographers, irrelevant! Well, that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. The vast majority of photographers cannot afford or justify brand switching. If we are serious, we already have a significant investment in our chosen brand - which ever it might be. And, let's be honest, they are all great cameras and so long as the photographer is competent and takes the trouble to learn how to use them, they will all give stunning results. I am certain that each unit will outscore the other two in one aspect or another. To me it is far more important to get good information on how to get the best from one's chosen brand / model not to be made to feel either smug because you chose the one that outscored the other two, or dissatisfied because your chosen one was beaten by the other two. And, let's face it, we know each manufacturer will continue to fine tune the performance, reliability, functionality etc. through firmware updates so they will continually leapfrog each other as time goes on. Rant over.
There are also new photographers that watch these kind of videos to figure out which brand to choose. They might not buy a flagship body as their first but if that's what they're aiming for in the future, choosing a brand based on the differences in those cameras can be a good move. That way they can start building a collection of lenses and then later buy a flagship used or new if they can afford it then.
There are also the people that are transitioning to mirrorless cameras and that's a good time for changing brands if they feel like trying something different.
Great to see everyone having lots of fun and just showing off the quirks and strengths of each camera. Each on great and will fit into any ones tool belt quite nicely!
amazing debate, i like it. The three cameras display their respective advantages. now it depends on us, which one do we prefer, everything is good, depends on our preferences
All of these cameras look great. They're too expensive for my pocket book. Trickle that focus system down to a Z6 III or Z7 III then you can sign me up! 🤗
Is it me, or is Chris never shooting using the "DP Reviews Favourite" fully articulating screen? He always uses the OVF or EVF on cameras? Fully articulating for macro or birds makes finding a subject much harder, and slower to get the screen out initially.
He mentioned in another video that he does prefer to use the view finder if he can, "even on a tripod". I think the thing about the articulating screen is that maybe you don't use it a lot, but if you need it it's a lifesaver.
My ancient camera only has an OVF, and if I can't get my face in the right spot then I just have to shoot blind and hope for the best.
@@aku343 The back screen makes it harder to hold the camera steady, and doesn't work well in strong light.
Kyle completely forgot history when he smirked on the Z9 taking 11 MP images. that once upon a time Nikon d300S images with a 12 MP res were used for showroom posters and the like!
As a Sony shooter since the Mavica days, it is always great how Sony sets the bar and C/N follow along 1#2 years later. So the A1 is a fantastic camera ending in 3rd place, but you didn’t reveal each camera’s release date! If all three came out on the same day, I’d consider jumping ship, but we know the A1 has been here coming on 2 years while the C/N models came out a year or more later…enough said. (Wait for the A1 MII !)
So many of my favourite camera reviewer personalities all in one video! I have no budget for any of these, but I will watch just to see all of you :)
I like all three, but size matters.....I want to get the Z9 but it is so big. That is my only issue with it.
Great review.
Wish Fuji's had a Xt5 that was 45mp....
After listening to it I am really happy that I use moder DSLR (K-3 Mk III) with real OVF, enough GPS to shot what I need to shot and nice sensor giving me enough IQ for A2 sized prints. It is not that much bigger and heavier then A1 and with 55-300 PLM lens I dare you to find lighter setup for full frame.
And on top I saved lots of money compared to those three :P Mirrorless suck.
OK, it lacks video capability but if I wanted to make video I would buy video camera not photo camera with video function.
I chose the R3 because I have canon glass that goes back 20 years and works with the adapter, the others may be better at somethings but for me to change to Nikon or Sony would cost a fortune, it’s a no brainer for me to stick with canon, I get the shots I want and I’m happy with the results.
Having been a fan of both DPR and TCS youtube channels for a long time, not once has it occured to me that Jordan and Evelyn are married.
Funny how these defenders of Sony, upset about how the comparison turned out, never seem to mention the video aspect comparison of this review among the three cameras. That's a tell-tale sign that something is going on. These are supposed to be "hybrid" cameras right? A note to cinematographers out there, you can't go wrong with the z9. Overall, a great comparison.
Great video Chris and Friends.as I’m a Nikon shooter love the results 😊👍
I've handled all three cameras at this point, but for me the size and weight of the body, lens options, AF performance and image quality (it is after all a camera) the A1 is the clear winner. Don't forget the A1 is at least a year older than its competitors.
With the Z mount, and in a class of their own Z lenses, Nikon for da win! 📷😎👍
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As much as I love Canon and my R5, the Z9 is the clear winner of the 3 purely for price alone.
and by price of the native lenses.
One area, which wasn't mentioned was lenses and really that is just if not more important than the cameras themselves. Really you need to do a video on the lens situation for the different systems, with the new lenses available as well as the older lenses that can fit each system.
Sony will still come in the last place, these other guys have great lenses with their excellent adapters.
@@OkwyUgonweze I don't think so. The new lenses are way better than the old ones, this is especially important for mirrorless cameras where the subject can be anywhere in the frame, even at the edges where the new lenses are way sharper than the old ones. So adapting old lenses is only a temporary thing people do. Looking at the current lineup of new native lenses Sony has the edge because 3rd party lense makers like Sigma and Tamron have been adding excellent lenses at very affordable prices.
@@OkwyUgonweze sony will be in the first place for mirrorless lenses,even if you add the A mount lenses vs the f mount and ef(they had more prime lenses at the extreme telephoto focal lenghts)
All I care is photography, I chose Canon because I have to many EF lenses :). But my wish for Christmas this yr is a Z9 coupled with those fine standard zoom for in door sports.
What?😳 Nikon I'd beats Sony in autofocus? What? What?
It already did before. If you weren't using the AI modes, the updated Z6ii was already more reliable than the A7iii.
I was surprised to see that too.
@@stuntmonkey00 I am curious how Z6ii will perform with the new and supposed to have released update with real time tracking. The Z6 performed quite well after the last upgrade. Eye detect is now twice the distance.
and VIDEO too 🤯❤🙌
look some other videos, Z9 AF is the worst among the 3.
This feels like Top Gear for cameras. I like it!
That’s for a terrific video. Glad I’m still subscribed to “the camera store” as Evelyn is terrific. Lossless 90 frames buffer at 20fps, with a buffer that clears really quickly wins in my book over lossy compressed or 24 mp. Overall, I say the Z9 wins. I just am not sure how I’m going to afford it. let me just add, tongue in cheek, that if the Nikon is to heavy you can always try working out!
Wish it had a mechanical shutter.
Yes, I agree! The fact that the Z9 clears the buffer so much faster than any other camera should have been mentioned much more clearly. For a body of this kind and use-case, that’s a very important factor. I also agree with you that the body size and ergonomics of the Z9 is well designed. Nikon ticked all the right boxes for me on this one. Unfortunately, I don’t know where to get the money from for it, ha ha! But that’s my problem!
I didn't know the A1 didn't have oversampled 4K.. seems like a big miss for such an expensive camera.
Too many misses from Sony A1. I used to own everything Sony but then realize they cut a lot of corners. I mean what good is 240hz EVF when it drops to what 60hz when you are actually shooting?? To me that's BS. And the BS 30fps raw advertisement when its only lossy raw. I had a Sony smartphone that was the first 4k screen smartphone. Guess what, it only does 4K when viewing pictures. The rest of the time it's 1080p and there is no option to change it.
Not downsampling is how they managed to keep the camera from overheating.
@@mlai2546 What on earth are you shooting that lossy isn't good enough for bursts? The A1 has the fastest AF with the only high rez 30fps RAW. For birding (what I shoot) it is ahead of the other two. It may be matched when shooting cars, if that is your thing...
@@mlai2546 Sony philosophy that every camera should be small, is backfiring for them. I mean they could have done a little bit bigger without even being as big as the two others, so as to ensure proper cooling, result there flagship camera which should be flawless in the field overheats.
@@mlai2546 lossy raw and 12bit
i bought the Z9 and it is such a fantastic camera.
In their review, DPReview spends a good amount of time talking about how great the z9 viewfinder is in spite of the specs and how in use it was as good or better than anything else. I guess they forgot about this…
The person that was giving her perspective on the Z9 was from the camera store as a guest and not from DPReview.
Despite it not being as high resolution (even though it’s still way high resolution for such a small screen), the EVF is like three times brighter than any other EVF you can get. This will make it way nicer to use rather than a dimmer higher res screen.
Waiting for a lightweight Z9, aka z8
I am waiting for a "baby" Z 9, in DX format :)
Hate to say it but the R5 should have been in this mix. You guys!
@Hates Spam your kidding right? The R5 is a sports wildlife dream come true. Up until the Sony A1 came along the R5 was the best bird and wildlife mirrorless camera to date. Also cropping ability in post is a huge deal to many birds and wildlife shooters out there. The R5 had 20 fps electronic shutter just like the Sony A9II and more mega pixel. The bird eye detect autofocus was ground breaking and still is just as competitive as the A1. Just as a “suggestion” you might want take a relook at that camera. It’s won photogs over across the world
@Hates Spam all good brotha! Take care. By the way what do you shoot?
@Hates Spam well (lol) I’m using the Nikon Z6II and the Nikon D500 (dslr). However I’m interested in the Zed 9 but don’t like the pro body form factor. I want a small body like the A1. But I’m invested in lenses and not rich. So I’m considering switching to canon R5 actually.
@Hates Spam sounds like you got a great setup! I be heard great things from both of those cameras. So you use a canon to Sony adapter?????
@Hates Spam well I do a lot of street photography and wildlife, birds, birds in flight, general wildlife / squirrels, dogs etc. I also love landscape. My Z6II is a great all around camera however it doesn’t cut it for fast moving animals or people . Especially birds. I think to take my bird photography to the next level (besides great lenses) I need a camera that can shoot fast and track fast moving subject. My D500 does a decent job at fast moving but not amazing. Also I seen lots of stuff online of birds shot on a 600mm f4 lens then cropped in post that look much better than mine. I know that A7rIv is really good for that
The best comparison video ever keep going on in this format it make sense to watch in this format
As all the Canon fans kept pointing out, isn't the R3 technically not their flagship? The vaporware R1 is somewhere out on the horizon?
It looks like a flagship and is priced like a flagship. I almost get the feeling that Canon changed the name of it from R1 to R3 after Sony launched the A1.
@@thisisbenji90 Canon had an EOS 3 when the EOS 1 was king. I haven't seen any kind of announcement, but Canon people do talk about an R1.
@@oneeyedphotographer I just know the entire lead up to the R3 it was rumored as the R1 then it dropped as the R3 and people started talking about the R1 immediately like the R3 was some sort of prosumer camera…. But at $5,999 I’m not buying that it wasn’t aimed as a flagship.
@@thisisbenji90 To landscape photographers, the 5DsR was the flagship for a time. 50 megapixels when nobody else came close.
@@oneeyedphotographer idk why a landscape photographer would even bother over any of these against a R5, A7Riv, Z7ii , or GFX.
Great video. Many Thanks. Love to see a comparsion between the Nikon Z9 and the old Nikon DSLR D5 or D6 on the AF-C tracking front. Value for money is the key for me as an action photographer. 12fps is more than enough for me. 7,000 photos per event is already too much. Doubling it by treating the camera as a German MG2 machine gun is not the way forward. Accuracy is far more important to achieve an optimum workflow.
*The Nikon Z9 looks to be the clear winner. I hope they will add True 24.00p in a future firmware update.*
How did you come to this conclusion when it was a draw ?
is there a visible difference between 24.00 and 23.976 ? ...if not what is the benefit true 24.. thx
@@motioncreativemedia It's not about the visual difference, it's about shooting in the proper format, for the proper media distribution.
I wouldn't say "clear" winner.
Nice review. Would love to see an updated review with all the newest firmware installed.
All these cameras are more capable than the photographers likely to use them.
Though spending this much (and not shooting sports) I'd want more than 24mp for this kinda of money in 2022.
Nobody serious would buy a camera at this price with only 24MP in 2022.
No matter if you think it’s enough now, it’s not future proof.
Great review.. They are all wonderful cameras, but if you're already invested into the lenses, this may be the deciding factor in the end. I already have a few G-Master for my Sony a9 and a7r3, not simple to change horses when heavily invested $$.
After watching this, I realize that my Sony A7R3 is an absolutely fantastic camera and I don't need to update my camera. I've shot wildlife, sports, music festivals, etc with this camera, including full studio photography, etc. It is an all-around great camera. So glad I got it now.
Love my A7RIII as well, but I do want the newer autofocus of the Z9 or A1
@@RichardoBrit ana7 r4 has many improvements and costs way less. Not sure why you would spend the 6000dolars euros for the others give. Your current choice of camera
@@axelfiraxa 20/30 fps without lag worths 3k, needles to mention the video and autofocus advantage.
Just once try the Nikon camera and compare the Color’s coming out of the raw files straight off the camera… you will see the difference
@@axelfiraxa oh I wouldn’t get the A1 - the price is crazy. Next generation A9 or A7R would be the way to go for me
Entertaining and informative! That's what I love about DPReview TH-cam posts. I have zero interest in buying any of these cameras but I always learn something new from these posts. Thank you for being honest and trustworthy!
Resolution does not equal image quality
Oh my gosh, you're a genius or something?
Indeed image quality is all about sharpness because of the lens and dynamic range
@@percy66 I’m just not crazy about how they ranked the image quality section of the review. I would have liked to see a more qualitative comparison.
I would like to see lowlight shooting, NIKKOR Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct on a Z9, a Gh5 II (2) and adapted glass, Canons best/fastest Options, and Sonys options.
As I own and use a Gh5 and M.Xl X0,64 with some Sigma F1.8 glass and Canons F1.4's I know that it is not close to Native lenses, the extra 1 1/3 stop gained from an (xl) booster is something else, it adds something to pictures/videos that are "not math", it's more interesting with a booster. A test Pls?
Nikon should be ahead of the Sony for image quality becuase it can shoot ISO 64
The lower iso is more useful for using slower shutter speeds than it is for any extra image quality. You just won't get any visible difference with the noise when viewing the image globally, ( as opposed to zooming right in on the computer) , so I personally dont regard the difference as being important.
3:28 Chris went gangsta lol
Personally when it comes to video I actually prefer the a1, the smaller body makes it easier to rig, and it’s 4K recording while softer has a stop better dynamic range over its 8k option*. And it has insanely good rolling shutter performance. Both of the specs to me are far more important then the oversampled 4K. Especially if you trying to do some more ““cinematic”” since rolling shutter performance and dynamic are critical to trying to make it look less “like video”.
Plus you can always shoot 8k and do the oversampling it post with even more options available as far as creating 4K deliverables in 4K. (though of course the z9 can do this as well.)
The photo advantage from the a1 comes with the mechanical shutter and the anti flicker options, I really hope the z9 adds in more of these flicker functions in firmware updates, since I would really hate for people to get heavily banded shots.
Still it’s extremely cool to see such highly speced out and similar cameras, each of them could be fairly labeled as a flagship model and true hybrid in my opinion.
* this lab test shows that the z9 is not properly down sampling at 4K and thus does not get a large dynamic range boost, however you still are stuck with a rolling shutter of 14 ms versus the A1’s 8.5ms.
It also had a quote from Nikon Japan regarding the prioritizing of resolution in that mode.
www.cined.com/nikon-z-9-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude-test/
Totally agree with everything else but not the autofocus ranking.
Though R3 shots lossless raw in 30fps, the image quality is still way worse than the lossy raw on A1. So if the IQ of R3 is acceptable, lossy raw shouldn't be a problem.
The problem of lossy raw is the dynamic range not the iq
@@lorenzopreiti DR is part of the IQ. And R3 achieved an acceptable DR only because it baked noise reduction in raw. If you apply the same amount of NR to any other cameras, they will get extra 0.7 stops of DR at least.
@Siddharth Sriram BSI sensors don't automatically have better image quality, especially for large pixel sizes. The DR of R3 did improve, but still not at the same level as the other two. You can find some further discussion on the DPReview forum if you are interested.
Great video, and I really like your light hearted banter, it is very refreshing! Thanks!
As a Sony guy, bulky size excepted, the z9 is a beast of a camera. But for me, due to its compactness and overall still good performance, the a1 takes it.
Would R5 not make more sense? For what $3000 cheaper?
@@mlai2546 R5 has rolling shutter in ES and much inferior AF (not talking about tracking here).
I shoot Sony and Canon but in the realm of Birds in Flight Photography which I find the most challenging Sony is unmatched! It is not just the camera but the lens system support that seals the deal. G-Master 400 mm and 600 mm lenses are amazing and the 200-600 mm zoom is very flexible and a great value. When I go to the lake I always have my Alpha one and my Sony glass.
My Canon is too heavy for serious Birds in Flight photography in my opinion. I have no recent experience with Nikon as I gave up on them years ago when they became so uncompetitive. I don’t think they have the modern light weight glass to support Birds in Flight photography.
For me top level performance and extensive customization make the A1 top dog. I haven't done side by side testing but 7 months with my A1, very happy with it.
@@daran0815 Rolling shutter wasn't mentioned. Is it not an issue with the high pixel cameras here?
I find your auto focus results a little strange. I’ve spent a lot of time with the Sony A1 and the canon R5 and I find that the auto focus tracking, at least on animals, is better on the our R5, so I assume the R3 is even better?