I have severe spinal stenosis and it's such horrific pain 24/7. My whole spine is hell pain. I was diagnosed 3 years ago, and l am getting worse sadly. It's extremely debilitating and has turned my life upside down. I can't even sleep properly as the pain intensifies in bed and sitting or lying down. I used to be super fit and now l find it hard just to do daily living just in my home. It's a really scary serious medical condition.
I'm so sorry to hear this! But it doesn't make sense to me. Stenosis is not painful in bed. You really need to see a doctor ASAP to find out what is going on.
@@BestPracticeHealth I have had steroid injections in my spine the neck to try help with the pain though it did nothing. I see my Neurosurgeon again in 2 weeks time. I seriously feel that there is something else undiagnosed. It is freaking me out as l don't understand how the doctors can't tell me properly with what is happening to my body. I seriously am watching myself go paralyzed. :(
Can I ask how old you are? I'm 35 and not sure if this is a disease for people who have had more wear and tear or if indeed others around my age have this serious condition like you have described.
@@Leaptab I am close to your age. I was super fit my whole life and did weight training since l was 16 years old. Now l can't do which makes me so sad. I just found out also that l have a bulging disc in my upper spine. I see my Neurosurgeon again next week. I have been told that l need surgery for the sever spinal stenosis L4/5 in my spine (neck). I also have moderate foraminal spinal stenosis in my lower spine. It's freaking me out as l can't work and mentally it's difficult. I am an outpatient with the hospital. On lots of pain medications. Hope you are ok beautiful as it's not an easy thing to deal with.
I have had spinal stenosis for many years. I had a recent MRI scan which showed the stenosis was very bad. It is so serious now that I am losing the strength in my legs, arms and fingers. I have had several bad falls and I struggle with day-to-day activities. I am waiting to see yet another specialist, however, at 76 years old my age is against me. Waiting for an appointment to see a specialist can take many months with the NHS. I do have bladder issues and I have a leakage problem.
I'm glad you are getting the help you deserve! Stenosis only gets worse. If you are losing function, then it's definitely time to get a decompression if your overall health allows.
"Get surgery on your back no matter what the issue is, and you'll be in a better place", said no one ever in the real world. In fact, all Ive ever heard from people around me is not only did it not make them better, but it always turned into a nightmare for the worse.
I definitely agree with the first part of your comment. Spine surgery is needed in a small percentage of cases. However, I do disagree with you on the second part. In those cases where spine surgery is needed, it works really well.
Ive heard spine surgery made patients all better & then others not so! Every day more modern techs happen. Spacers helped 2 great danes be all better. I volunteer with animals.💜🙏🐾💜
Not all surgeries are bad. I had severe lumbar stenosis at my L4-5 and it was pinching my spinal cord. I had fusion October 26 last year and my legs are no longer constantly going numb. Yeah, I still have it but it’s not all the time. No surgery is guaranteed to relieve your issues 100%, especially if you have degenerative disease of the entire spine. Having cervical stenosis isn’t fun either. Just take care of your body and realize we are not getting any younger, ladies and gentlemen
THIS HELPS ME.... The only thing that I found that helps my spinal stenosis is hanging upside down for even a minute or 2 on an inverter table (Which I purchased for just $99 at walmart). It seems to help a little more to get on facing the table then facing away from the table. The first time I did it, I sort of didn't like it. But, since then I do it several times a day and look forward to it. It's only temporary relief... But, that little relief is so nice! The relief lasts longer if you aren't active right after. If I'm having a bad day of back pain and get on this for a little bit, my pain is reduced dramatically!
I have stenosis, spondylolisthesis, spondylitis, well basically all the spondy ailments of L5 -S1. Have had it for over 20 years now. The last time I had a MRI I was at grade 2 and that was 9 years ago. I can't lay down to sleep, my hips, buttocks, legs, knees and feet are in constant pain. I know it's time for surgery, but I just don't want to be completely out of commission right now.
I understand your concern. But when you can't sleep and you're experiencing neurogenic claudication due to grade two or higher spondylolisthesis, it can indeed leave you feeling like you are already incapacitated. In such cases, lumbar fusion surgery can be a viable option to regain your mobility and alleviate the discomfort. If you're keen on avoiding an extended downtime, the solution is a minimally invasive spinal fusion procedure. I would recommend seeking out a spine surgeon in your vicinity who specializes in minimally invasive surgery. With this approach, you could potentially return to light activities within a week or two, or at most, three weeks.
the longer you wait the more painful it is after surgery, your nerves are pinched and very hurt atm, im screaming every day from the pain after my surgery, i got nerve blockers but to fully be effective it needs to be taken for 3 days straight first, i am terrified of the damage that is dont to my nerves and hoping they heal well, it took me 20 years from my first incident to finally get surgery cause it disabled me hard, i could only walk about 15 minutes max for 4 years, this year it went down to 1 minute without cane if i was standing, if im moving without cane it was 20 seconds, now after surgery even with the pain im more mobile than i used to be. please go get it done before it gets worst, find a good neuro surgeon that you would feel comfortable with.
@@1MillionMileRoadTrip that is what I want to do. I have to contact my primary again. He wonders why they won't offer me surgery also. It's extremely irritating.
I feel like I’m going crazy. I feel like my legs and hips are dying. This physical therapist just told me I have fibromyalgia and while I feel like I’m made of glass, I’m perfectly able bodied. My ct scan says narrow disc space l5-s1. Endplate osteophytes and sclerosis. Disc disease and bulges l5-s1, l4-5, l3 l2. Doesn’t this mean it’s more than fibromyalgia? I’m just going crazy being told it’s not really cause for concern. When I’m 32 and losing strength in my lower body and it’s growing up my spine. I am miserable and going crazy.
Get a different opinion. You need a spine specialist. I’m going through something similar and trying to get answers. New ortho doc and a neurologist. I was diagnosed with severe stenosis and haven’t done anything about it in 3 years. Guess what, it’s getting worse. I had a fusion to correct scoliosis about 20 years ago. Frankly I don’t know what I’m going to do about it, because the prospect of an additional fusion surgery instills no faith in me, but I’m inching closer and closer to a wheelchair in my 30s.
I suffer from narrowing around the root. Stenosis. 6 months now. painful and life changing. Spinal decompression helps a lot. And now I'm slowly starting yoga stretching. It's helping!!
I'm 59 and have Fibromialgia with back issues I'm sure from falling down. My lower body is starting to get so stiff it's hard to even get out of bed in the morning . If I don't the pain is to much. There is weakness in my legs and I cant stand for long. I started having urinary leakage trying to sit up to go to the bathroom at night. I just can't move that fast. So now I keep a bucket by my bed and try and make it. I'm so depressed and humiliated and I know the pain is going to get worse. I can barley get around some days. I can't live like this anymore it's so crazy.
Being a fireman with moderate cervical stenosis and severe right foraminal stenosis, should I continue to work for another 5 years? I have had ceilings collapse on my head, fallen down stairs, etc. Currently had injections. Dr. says he wants me to do a functional capacity test, but how will they recreate my job of lifting 400 lb people. and carrying 100 plus gear on my shoulders and head?
first responders are always the hardest to determine their physical readiness and fitness for duty, as the physical requirements of the job can be so crazy severe. I know for me, given the importance of a clear, mental state, and doing this vital work, if you wonder if your fit for duty, then you’re probably not. It would be better to find a non-physical way to finish your career, such as more of an administrative position. I have had really good experience with functional capacity evaluations. They do have norms for physical performance to compare for almost every job, certainly fireman.
@@BestPracticeHealth I appreciate your response. I did have a FAC completed, and passed only 20%. I am currently attempting an early retirement. I have my first IME in one weeks time.
I am 29, had my cervical MRI, impression is Mild Spinal canal stenosis at C4-C5 and C5-C6. Disc buldge at C4-C6 with small central annular fissure at C5-C6. I'm quite scared because my doctor said I should not worry. Btw, what I am feeling now is a little bit of tingling sometimes in my foot and hand, slight foot aches and mild spasm(sometimes) 😭😭
Whew! The MRI is such a relief. The findings really don’t describe anything that could be causing nerve damage, or the symptoms you’re reporting. That doesn’t mean you’re not feeling them. But it usually does mean it’s not coming from your neck. That’s good news.
hi i was kicked in the spine over 25 times 16 years ago and i have only just found out i have a t3 wedge fracture, t9 to t12 syrinx, cervical stenosis and pinched nerve on my left side of collarbone, l3 to s1 nerve root compression yet my whole left side loses feeling in a upright position now and in excruciating pain and swollen left side of abdomen making my hiatal hernia get bigger and make my digestion and constipation worse etc yet the nhs so far in uk doing nothing
I was recently diagnosed with lumbar and cerebral spinal stenosis with 6 herniated discs. I’m very afraid to have surgery because I’ve heard nothing but bad stories and results. :( I was diagnosed last year and I’m almost to the point where it’s impossible to walk a mile. It puts me out for the rest of the day and getting up to use the bathroom after that is very stressful and difficult. Some days, I can’t get out of bed or walk at all. There has been times when I’ve lost my bowels in the middle of the night, or if I bend too far down or squat, I will lose my bladder and go on myself. It has become extremely debilitating and I don’t have a lot of support from ‘friends’ or ‘family.’ I feel so alone and this pain is unbearable. 😢
You need surgery. You will only continue to worsen. I have spinal stenosis too and I occasionally have problems with sudden urge to urinate. I thought it was just a bladder issue now I'm very concerned it's caused by my stenosis. I've had small surgeries for sciatica that didn't work and ended up with a spinal fusion of L4 L5, L5 S1 in 2011 that worked. I remained pain free until 2019. I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis of L3 L4. My pain has worsened and I have that sudden urge to urinate causing me to run to the bathroom. I just had a lumbar epidural injection on the 15th of Nov. It began to help and I went a few days with much less pain but it's returning. I'm willing to have surgery. There's several non-invasive surgeries that potentially can be done, but it's different for each individual. I hope you seek out a qualified surgeon. Doing nothing is a guarantee you'll only get worse. Best wishes.
It is miserable when you genuinely have excruciating pain all over your body and have embarrassing moments. I have trained my mind to control the bowel movement and urine control. I used to leak but i would go sit quietly in a comfortable position and just block everything out of your mind and you'll be amazed at how strong the mind is. I'm sixty two years old and have been suffering with spinal stanosus for about ten years and unfortunately in South Africa the public hospitals are useless and never got a bed for me (The Johannesburg Hospital). I would like to put myself out there incase an experimental drug for Spinal stanosus that other people don't have to go through what we are going through now. Your family think your just lazy, I've never been one to be lazy as I was used long hours of work and my work was physically challenging, a tradesmen and Trade Training Instructor and trained two(2) apprentices at a time whilst having to run my own machine and had to be available to repear the other machines in case of breakdowns,I was in charge of my shift and had forteen apprentices and never had an apprentice that I trained , they are all managers or directors now. My apologies for telling my working life history.. Please talk to someone if you go into depression as try and change every negative into a positive. Let your mind be one with your body. I'd love DR. Caan from Johannesburg General Hospital to do the op for me as he is one of the best Nurolgists in South Africa and has a great success rate on spinal operations. So DR Caan, help a veteran get a percentage of my life back.🌹💯🇿🇦❤️
I agree. His demeanor is like this is big joke. Haha - Nothing you can do - just hope you die before it gets unbearable. Not very good to hear if you're dealing with this. Based on his age and weight I'm sure he deals with ED. Isn't that funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I could not agree with you more Arty Butterfly. It is definitely worrisome. I have so many people in my life that I know with lots of issues, horrible imaging results on their MRI's stenosis foraminal and central, and yes severe. They manage it all with their lifestyle, medications, and exercise. They are all fine. I think there is a place for surgery if life threatening, but this person has NO BUSINESS in health care as it is borderlining on sadism.
Just came across this and was thinking the same thing, at best he's very thoughtless and smug along with it, loads of more helpful folks out there with more considerate approaches to tackle this painful condition, wish you all the best.👍
I have tandem spinal stenosis involving 11 levels. I had surgery on three cervical levels in the 2000s. Now my lumbar has worsened significantly in just the last four years. I am 72. I got a 2nd opinion and that surgeon said I would need surgery on at least 8 more levels just to stabilize the spine, but I am no longer a candidate. He suggested a spinal stimulator but my pain management said no as I also have autonomic dysfunction and AFib. So I am semi functional on a combination of opiates and benzoes. But death will be my only relief as I have at least 18 nerve roots under moderate to severe entrapment, a ruptured disc at L3 - L4 with uncovered disc material floating in my cauda equina. My son and his family live in Phoenix and work for Intel, so maybe I will meet you sooner than later because the feet and legs are going and signs of incontinence are present. My current Neurosurgeon says he is done, my Nuerologist says I am a medical train wreck and the only thing they can offer is opiates and do no harm. It sucks. Now the cervical plate in my neck has created an esophageal stricture which is only 5 mm in diameter. That may kill me first...
Lumber stenosis pain becoming so bad of late I take strong medication plus sleeping pills so I sleep most of day n night not to feel my back tormenting me
I understand that sacral issues (torsion) and disc issues in terms of symptoms overlap sometimes. do you think that my glute pain when sitting, specifically, and back pain is attributed to my sacrum or stenosis. I’ve been diagnosed with mild bilateral, L4, L5, S1 foraminal stenosis. I feel a sense of instability when I’m standing-legs feel heavy even w/ PT. thanks!
Left out a few things: 1. I had slippage between vertebrate causing great pain. PT strengthened my core and solved the problem. 2. I had bone spurs on the lamina. Surgery removed them and solved the problem. 3. The orthopedic surgeon wanted to remove the lamina and fuse the vertebrae. The neurosurgeon just wanted to drill out the bone spurs. I chose the neurosurgeon and that solved the problem. I hope you fully research your issues through doctors, friends and yes even the Internet.
Dr. - your sincerity in this video is greatly appreciated. May I ask please...my MRI report says I have severe right sided foraminal stenosis at L1-2. The surgeon I recently met with said, "It's not too bad," and scheduled me with a colleague in his practice for facet injections at the L1-2 and L4-5 where I had a hemilaminectomy 27 years ago. Now, an MRI I had 2.5 years ago showed no problem with L1-2. The current MRI report states that the disc is severely degenerated, there is severe right foraminal narrowing, modic changes in both vertebrae, endplate ebernation, large osteophyte complex, bilateral facet arthropathy, moderate thecal sac narrowing and right subarticular recess narrowing. The Dr. I met with said I'm not at risk for cauda equina syndrome. From the get go, before I met with him and had the MRI report in hand back in March, I was figuring a foraminotomy would be the way to go. I am concerned that there is some new paradigm at work in your field that might be putting me at risk. Please Dr. Lieberman...what say you? Thanks.
Sir my mri says i have left neural foramen narrowed by uncovertebral joint hypertrophy. I gave been having neck pain and stiffness for weeks now? Is this why? Please help.
Yes and No. MRI is very sensitive, meaning if you have a problem it should show it. But as with all test, there is a false negative rate. That means you can have a negative MRI but miss a problem.
Thank you for explaining this condition in such a succinct and easily understandable manner. I've had ridiculously bad pain in my lower back and hips for a couple of months. Mostly on my left side. An MRI done last week revealed "severe" stenosis. Every assessment of every area said "severe" in the radiologist's impression. My PCP has referred me to a neurosurgeon. Sure hope I can get some relief.
I have severe spinal stenosis on multiple levels. My left leg is fully numb and my right leg is numb as well. I can’t walk, my bladder is messed up and I’m told that I can’t have surgery. The pain in my legs and back pain is awful.
I just got my test i got narrowing of my spin and push on my never and my disk my legs are week i trip over carpts in stors like i cant barly pick my feet up . I go nums, between my legs up thih too i got pain running down my left leg and it goes to my heal. Ill just pea and im 42, i tierd of being in pain im in and of hot baths, i had the shots it font help. I just dont know what to do any more. I told my pain doctor i just het gabapentin,. I been having hard time sleeping . Any idea what i can my doctor
I have a mild diffuse disc bulge and foraminal steonisis at L3-L4, mild bilateral subarticular and foraminal stenosis, and diffuse bulge at L4-L5, mild spinal canal stenosis with mild effacement of bilateral subarticular recesses. I'm just 31 and I feel that my feet are constantly tingling... will this only get worse? Should I get surgery ASAP or try with phsyiotherapy? Will staying fit and active into my 40s just be impossible?
The changes in the report you list are all mild. All of us can expect mild changes with aging. Everyone is different, but please don't think that mild changes are going to ruin your life. They're normal.
Most of the time when I hear "my doctor said it's in my head" it ends up being either a misread MRI or the pain is coming from the facet joints which radiologists often do not read on their reports. Either way, hypnosis is not the answer.
I'm 36 have mild spinal stenosis and left hip impingement was also in a car accident (rollover 80km Dec 2010) have skin graft over the top of the left foot but the nerve in the left leg is always making my leg sleep if I lay on my back I can not lay on my left at all.
I am frustrated with my regular Dr. I have 20 years of stenosis….injections…fusion, laminectomy (which has helped) now my last mri shows bulging L5 on a nerve…I am waiting for my appointment with a great surgeon…but in the mean time..in pain, my Dr. will not give me medication ……. I am sleeping on a heating pad..my pain started in August…my appointment is November, the emergency department told me not to come back for pain shots.. the emergency Dr. addressed this with my Dr. about the pain…nothing…
Uh, yes! I'm frustrated just reading this. What is your doctor doing? (Although I do agree with the no medicine part. Narcotics are so dangerous!) It sounds like you have non-specific low back pain that could be radiculopathy, facet, or the waste basked "post laminectomy" pain. The next step is typically diagnostic medial branch block and epidurals to sort out the pain generator. You need a good pain management doctor. Do you have one? I recommend people who are double board certified and who do not use chronic narcotics.
Spinal Stenosis is EXTREMELY SERIOUS. . . .. . I was diagnosed with this pain about 3 weeks ago. . I can't seen to get an MRI, but seems like everytime my MRI date comes up, something happens and I can't make it. . . . . .
I was diagnosed with moderate facet arthropathy of the L5-S1, mild neuroforaminal stenosis and spinal stenosis, with disc desiccation and height loss. 10 years of complaining about this pain with so many unusual and fluctuating symptoms. I underwent many x-rays, and even a laparoscopy at 17 to determine the source and none was found. So I was sent off and told it was all in my head and given birth control for the pain which obviously did nothing. At 26 I stepped on a stool, ya a stool, and it caused my left foot to go numb along with portions of my pelvis and weakness and tingling in both my legs. I had to plead for an MRI, when my PCP wanted to send me to PT, now I am being sent to a spine surgeon and it has been 10 weeks, needless to say this has been shocking but it makes so much sense.
Have you seen a pain management doctor? Your note does not mention any conditions (severe stenosis, large disc herniations, deformity, etc) that typically benefits from surgery. Often in cases like yours the best doctors turns out to be a pain management. You want one who is double board certified and does not over-prescribe narcotics.
I hear you. But spine surgery can indeed be very effective when it's the appropriate solution for the right patient with the right problem. It's a complex decision, often weighed carefully when other interventions haven't provided relief, especially in cases of severe pain or neurological deficits. While there are no guarantees and surgery isn't a perfect option, in many cases, it becomes the best available choice to improve a patient's quality of life.
I am 70 I had spinal stenosis and didn't know it and a Chiropractor herniated my L4. I also have multiple bulging discs. I get on the floor and do back stretches every morning. I take 4 Gabapentin a day and 2 aspirins. I do use creams on my legs as needed. With doing all this my Stenosis is managed. I always am in a pain level of 2 or 3. That I can take, But I have to do the work. I still clean my home do the shopping and walk the dog, without stretching I would be in a wheel chair.
Stretching and enhancing your range of motion is a fantastic approach, not only for spinal stenosis but for various other conditions too. Your proactive approach is commendable and will greatly benefit you as you age. May I share my concerns about your current treatment approach? I genuinely care about your well-being, and I'm not convinced about the care you're receiving. Spinal stenosis is progressive, and while managing symptoms is vital, it's equally crucial to monitor the underlying condition's progression. Regular MRI surveillance is essential to track the rate of deterioration. I have reservations about Gabapentin as a long-term solution for sciatica. It's a drug with significant side effects, impacting not just your physical health but also your cognitive and emotional well-being. If MRI confirms severe stenosis and you find it challenging to manage without Gabapentin daily, I strongly urge you to consider a Laminectomy surgery now. Waiting might only mean dealing with it in a less favorable state in the future. Your current age and health are factors to consider in making this decision.
I am in a wheelchair most of the time, but that way i can go out and spend quality time with my family outside of the house, other than that I just rest as much as possible, but I feel my legs are been strangled by the vains, pulling tighter just like barbed wire and when I sit, it feels like I'm sitting on stones, minimal feeling from waist down, I wish all who are suffering with this illness, I really feel your pain, and depressions. Love 💕 to all of you and pray you all recover, maybe there will still be a breakthrough in spinal stanosus, and we all can get help.
Im 39 years old. I just had an mri on my spine because an xray showed moderate to severe degeneration disc height loss and facet hypertrophy. The MRI was ordered by a rheumatologist to clinically correlate it with the xray and blood results I recently got showing high levels of inflammation (c protein) and rhematic factor but he really didn't explain the results of this MRI or he didn't know how to. I'm being referred to a neurosurgeon- ok great (waiting on that) But in the meantime I'm dealing with increasing symptoms as far as my ability to walk sometimes with extreme leg heaviness my ability to pee, lift my kids...sometimes episodes of vertigo at night but that jas only happened 3 times. Overall this seems to get progressively worse as the day goes on and sometimes causes sciatica pain. Anyway my results state a grade 3 spinal canal stenosis with complete effacement of csf and distortion, slight T2 hyperintense signal possibly due to myelomacia or edema, along with grade 2 stenosis is other parts as well.as neural forminal stenoses. What does this essentially mean? Will surgery most likely be involved? Am I working against a clock at all with this? This whole process started3 months ago with the inflamamtion symptoms wrecking my body but that since has been managed with a 6 day course of prenisdone. As far as my medical history- I have none really- relatively healthy, no accidents, surgeries or even a broken bone and reasonably active into sports. Any help or explanation is appreciated. Thanks
I assume the MRI was of your neck? It sounds like your doctor made the right call and referred you to a surgeon. Call the surgeons office and see how quickly you can get in there. Let them know you’re having unstable neurological symptoms and need to be rushed.
Good video. Very helpful, lots of good information. I have severe spinal stenosis and I'm afraid of what will happen if I don't have surgery. I'm not clear though, wouldn't a room have 4 walls?
I get so confused between all the terminology. Is spinal stenosis the same as foraminal narrowing? I have a big herniated disc between c6/c7 causing a lot of narrowing
Amen! The terminology really is confusing. Stenosis means narrowing. But the term is not specific. You can have narrowing of the central spinal canal, the lateral recess, or even the frame itself. To make matters worse, each of these can occur alone, or in combination.
Hi, Lana, Lumbar spinal stenosis typically causes claudication-pain that radiates down the leg when walking. As the stenosis worsens, it can affect individual nerve roots, leading to radiculopathy. While twitching isn’t usually a sign of radiculopathy, the rest of your symptoms definitely align with it. Twitching is more commonly linked to disorders originating closer to the brain. Neurologists refer to symptoms in the arms or legs caused by brain and spinal cord issues as "upper motor neuron" signs. When both upper and lower motor neuron signs are present, it could be indicative of a condition like amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). In short, you should consult with a doctor. It’s uncommon that the best path for back problems to start with a neurologist, but given the twitching, this may be one of those rare situations where it's appropriate.
Hi I was in the military got out medical discharge in 2019 at the age of 23 because I have spinal stenosis disk degenerative disease bone spurs and herniated disk. It's hard living with these condition because I wish I could live a normal life but I just keep pushing everyday next option I'm thinking about is surgery should I go that route?
It depends if you have central stenosis and your cord is compressed . I have cord compression at 4/5 5/6 and 5 foraminal openings are closed around the nerve root . I have a numb hand and wierd nerve sensation but no pain much . I’m fighting on until I begin to get myopathy then I’ll get surgery
Sounds like yours is in the neck, not the low back. Just be aware that 50% of people with myelopathy do not improve after surgery. They don't get worse, but the damage is done. Don't wait too long!
I can't walk now, I have severe stenosis in every vertebra so no surgery for me. medicare has stopped supporting specials. $500 to $3000 to see a specialist and another $3000 to-4000 to get reports good enough for NDIA to get cleaning or mowing and even after this you still may get rejected. Or your forms were lost because my workers are incompetent. Now after being advised that a quarter of my daily funding had to pay for an OT who said I didn't look like I was in pain. How a 25-year-old who is not a medical professional, can come and disprove MRI scans, CT, and Full bone scan plus specialist reports. All my support has been cut due to not enough evidence. then they send me a satisfaction survey where i cant put any actual event in.
Multilevel cervical spine degenerative changes resulting in mild C2-C3 to C6-C7 spinal canal stenosis and severe left C3-C4, bilateral C5-C6 and left C6-7 neural foraminal narrowing. My right side of my body my bicep tricep and chest has atrophied, surgery at this point is what’ll be needed right? Question is what type of surgery is best?,
I have congenital cervical stenosis and lumbar stenosis. Ihave bee dealing with cervical stenosis sense age 11 i am now disabled. I had acdf surgery in 2016 that didn't help i guess i waited to long for surgery. I also have foraminal stenosis,ddd spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and other issues in my neck and back.
Oh, man. That's a lot to deal with. Congenital stenosis is usually treated by laminectomy, not ACDF. Maybe get a second opinion form another spine surgeon?
I just had a CT lung scan and they found cysts at T9-T10 22mm being the largest. The pain is horrible going down my right butt cheek and into calf of my leg and making my toes tingle. It does come and go though with best relief in the morning after I get up and shake off the stiffness. Technically- cystic structures at multiple bilateral neural foramen. But it says left side, my pain is on right side. Anyway, seeing PC doc on Tuesday so hope they'll do a MRI. Been having pain on and off for 3 years but this times its lasted over a month. I have to manually lift my right leg up to get in the car. ughh... sucks getting old and now I can't play tennis.. the love of my life.
I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis, cause equine syndrome an scoliosis 11hrs ago. Was told by a surgeon because of t heart defects I was born with I had a 1in4 chance of making it through surgery, let alone recovery, less than 10% chance of getting feeling and use in my legs. Mum got told to put me in a nursing home as if b bedridden t rest of my life I turned 40 in that hospital.
I unfortunately suffer from several spinal conditions including this . i was told there was nothing that could be done, complicated why. I was told that i would be in a wheelchair by 50. I have made it to 51 and not in the chair yet. unfortunately i feel that day coming.
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I felt the same way I had 5 level laminectomy surgery at 50 and now I feel great no more pain in my legs and I can finally sleep after 10 years of not being able to 👍
How severe is it? Look on the MRI report and it should be rated from mild, moderate, to severe or even marked. Mild or moderate stenosis are usually nothing to worry about. Severe is a different animal and marked is downright dangerous.
@@BestPracticeHealth yeah apparently my spinal diameter around c5 and c6 is just 5.5 mm.. And there is nerve compression and it would get worse it seems.
What are your views on decompression therapy such as IDD for stenosis? I have stenosis and a herniated disc so am going to fry this therapy as a surgery alternative
Decompression therapy can be a valuable treatment option, but not for stenosis or disc disease. Decompression therapy, often used in the form of traction, is typically most effective for conditions related to facet-mediated low back pain. These conditions are often characterized by arthritis visible on X-ray and swollen joints as seen on MRI scans. However, decompression therapy, such as traction, is not suitable for herniated discs or stenosis. These conditions have different underlying causes and mechanisms of pain, which require alternative treatments. For herniated discs, more targeted approaches like physical therapy, epidural steroid injections, or in some cases, surgical interventions, may be considered. Stenosis, on the other hand, is laminectomy surgery to decompress the spinal canal, leading to compression of the spinal cord or nerve roots.
Sounds like a facet pain. Make sure you have no red flags! Otherwise, rest, moist heat, and safe anti-inflammatories. If the pain persists for 3 weeks its best to see a doctor and get an x-ray.
This is insane. My doc thinks nothing is wrong. Have had debilitating leg pain for the last 4 months, mostly stuck in bed. Literally, my mind is blown after watching this. Also having urinary retention,. constipation, I've got 2 known disk bulges and multiple lumbar fractures,and MRI said mild to moderate spinal stenosis. Im 33. Funny how the states has more public knowledge on TH-cam than Canada. Ite pathetic
In my own experience the most common cause of debilitating leg pain without an obvious cause is a missed lateral herniated disc on the MRI. One thing you can do is to call your MRI center and request that the study be re-read by a radiologist who is board certified in neuroradiology.
@@BestPracticeHealth thank you! I actually have an urgent MRI scheduled for Saturday, after in emerg last Saturday night, got a call Tuesday and they scheduled me in for appnt
@@BestPracticeHealth main symptoms I have are: Shooting pain down leg from buttox, into foot. Lower leg/foot constantly tingling and numbness Leaning forward constantly, not able to walk back back straight, too painful Urinary retention, getting worse Pain wrapping around from buttox to lower abdomen, area is very painful with bowel movements
I love playing flag football and basketball with my family and friends. I am currently 25. I was unfortunately diagnosed with severe right side L5-S1 stenosis. It's given me sciatica and has been brutal. Will I ever be able to play with them again? Is this something I can recover from?
What is causing the stenosis? If it is a disc herniation, then that will slowly get better, and you can expect to get back to full function. Stenosis due to a narrowing of the spinal canal you were born with only gets worse as you age, and at 25 years old you have a lot of aging to do. If you have that kind of stenosis, then you should look into surgery sooner rather than later.
Hey Bradley, Dr Lieberman answered your question today on our live show. Here is a timestamped link: th-cam.com/users/liveLryTnQ3aC6I?feature=share&t=2355
@@zachrussell7832literally I’m 24 had a bad car accident and the pain from this seriously ruins your day hope u feel better I’m seeing a physiotherapist twice a week but still bad pain
Oh, man. That's so long. I'm so sorry. Pain is not meant to last that long and is so harmful. I usually call it "knife int he back pain," but I guess it could just as well be a fork. It's usually caused by a torn disc. Does your MRI show an annular tear and end plate edema?
at 64 I am in constant pain. My dad had stenosis and suffered for years. Mine is genetic and I do have pain when sitting or lying down- walking- anything i do!
Yep i got congenital in all 3 regions. All are 10mm and 9mm. With 8 herniated disc! It hurts and I’m 34. I use RSO THC oil for the pain. Please don’t get addicted to those narcs
@@mikewilkins2030 damn son. It’s not addiction when it makes u feel normal.. I have tried everything. Weed and oil all day then something to sleep. That something can be anything as long as u don’t take it everyday.
I'm officially traumatized by what can be ahead of me. 5mm canal opening l5-S1,spurs, bulging discs, degenerative disc disease , severe osteoporosis, osteo arthritis, 4th vertebrae slipped over it. In operable due to lack of bone density. End plate damage spurs , Daily injections of Tymlos. I'm looking into a Dr in Cincinnati, ultrasonic surgery widening the canal! Ambulatory surgery at The Best Surgery CTR. FDA Approved, technique and instruments. No hardware! High success rate.Dr. Gerkin I think. 70 yrs old, & scared. Medicare approved... ...
Sounds like you need a laminectomy! It's normal to be affraid, but don't let the fear keep you from getting the care you need. Osteoporosis is not a reason not to have laminectomy. I am afraid you've been given mis-information. Come on the show and we can straighten this out. phoenixspineandjoint.com/resources/best-practice/
I was recently diagnosed with this. I am going to be getting treatment by an orthopedic doctor. Surgery was not an option given to me yet. I am scared.
Fear is normal. You can't a should not control that. What you can control is your reaction to that fear. Don't let it paralyze you into making bad decisions. You've got this. Hang in there and see your doctor. Do your homework so you know what questions are important to ask. I have a whole playlist on spinal stenosis. Check that it. It will help.
Yes. Lack of range of motion of the thoracic spine due to DDD often leads to accelerated degeneration of the cervical spine. How old are you? Having both neck and thoracic DDD at a young age is a sign you have inherited lousy discs. (Did mom or dad have DDD?). People with weak discs need strong muscles to compensate. Consider investing in a core strengthening program for life, yoga or tai chi are the most popular.
@@BestPracticeHealth I AM 70 YRS OLD AND HAVE SUFFERED DDD, SPINAL STANOSES & BULGING DISC LOWER BACK FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 6MO. AGO I HAD XRAY OF MY NECK DONE, IT SHOWED ADVANCED C5-C6 DDD. CAN THE LOWER BACK DDD BE LINKED TO THE C5-C6 DDD
No pain meds this is not a country i grew up in, they helped you in the past; your loved ones were taken care of. Now all it is, is “injection mills”. Solid pain in spine low and high loosing my will to live anymore cause every day is so much pain and suffering.
I’m so sorry you’re in so much pain, and that it’s become severe enough to make you question your will to live. I’m also concerned you mentioned needing care for your loved ones. Is someone else in your family struggling right now, too? Please remember, there are effective treatments for nearly all spinal conditions, with the exception of malignant tumors. Everyone deserves help when they’re sick or in pain, and I can tell from your comment that you’re truly in pain. The issue with certain medications is that they can sometimes make things worse. You mentioned "injection mills," which, for those unfamiliar, refers to places that perform injections just to run up bills without providing real relief. These injections don’t work, and you end up trapped in a cycle of returning for more injections or pain pills. It’s a terrible situation. My best advice is to visit BestPracticeHealth.com to find the right doctor. You need to start by identifying the root cause of your pain and understanding the best practices for treating it. Please hang in there and know that help is available. It's your job to find it.
Thanks! Stenosis is so common people often don't take it as seriously as we should. To learn more about spinal stenosis check out the rest of our content in this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLsYo8ENYsvpxJc9oGYtLP3jEQ3zpLSx2I.html. If you need surgery you can learn more about laminectomy here: phoenixspineandjoint.com/spine/treatments/lumbar-laminectomy/.
@@DVD927 good luck with that it made mine a lot worse I dealt with it for ten years and now that I had surgery I feel a lot better no more pain shooting down my legs I will probably have to have surgery again later down the road because arthritis in my spine but it’s nice to not be in pain anymore
It’s not a video to make you scared it’s legit really what goes on this is not a scare tactic video at all. This is not a joke. I have moderate lumbar spinal stenosis that was caused from a semi accident four months ago and I can feel it’s coming on and some days. The pain is so bad you can’t literally move. I am so scared for what the future holds so no this is good information.
Whatever it be never panic, try conservative treatment, do physiotherapy, consult a good doctor and have faith in yourself. Drink 3 ltr water and Everything will definitely be ok
Good advice. Most things heal themselves. However, there are a few things that just need to be fixed: complete ACL tear, complete rotator cuff tear, Bankhardt lesion, severe stenosis, and severe knee and hip arthritis. IMO.
ok. this hurts beyond compare, I have ask many of my friends to just run me over with their car, shoot me in the spine,. anything to stop the pain, and it keeps growing worse, seems by the day. exercise makes me hurt so much more, but if I sit still, I can hardly walk about 60 percent of the time, with outlooking like frankenstien on crack, IT HURTS SO MUCH. The Dr.s tell me I have so many problems, but yet they keep saying go exercise, it hurts so much to walk, more and more. does this pain follow you when you die...
I'm so sorry to hear that. No one should suffer like you describe. I hope you get help ASAP. How long has this been going on? Is the pain more in your back or your leg? Have you had an MRI or x-ray? The place to start depends on the answers to these questions. PS. The car and gun thing don't work.
you are one of the worst people who spoke about this matter. i have stenosis on C4 to C7 and its more than severe. painful yes, i am unable to do many things, but when you say the only way to beat it is to die before it gets worse is such insensitive and you should not be a medical practitioner by any given chance. stenosis has multi-factor origin either discs or joints or ..., but most of it if not causing symptoms should not be touched. if its symptomatic, then you consider non surgical options and only go to surgery when all other options are exhausted.
I’m 28, stage 3 almost stage 4 spinal stenosis. S1-L3 are all ruptured, and last I have a bulging L2. I have almost No Pain some days….when I’m inflamed…..death to the world lol 😂
@@BestPracticeHealth yes. My mom has degenerative disc disease, my grandma had osteoporosis and scoliosis, my dad died from Wagner’s disease, my grandfather’s on both sides died from heart attacks. I don’t think 70% of the men in my family live to be 65 probably poor diet and health and inherited health problems. I come back to this channel every now and then and watch this exact video, and it gives me comfort. I appreciate the work that you do and the advice that you give. I figured you do this for a living you would like to know a little background just for giggles . I go through phases where I will be extremely inflamed, and then it completely goes away without warning and I feel like a normal 20-year-old. But I can see that in my last comment I was feeling fine then, and now I guess I’m going through a bad phase , and my back is giving me extreme pain. And I’ve had to seek counseling for depression. So I’m not exactly sure what to do but I know one thing narcotics will not be the path for me. I could not imagine having back pain and battling narcotics. For my pain, I walk for a while, even though the walking hurts at that moment it helps my overall pain long-term. When I sit down or lay down or do the combination of both for too long on the couch and in my bed, I have sharp stabbing pains that run from my lower back down to my calf and into my foot And it hurts like hell. I have had some performance problems in the bedroom over my back pain. I don’t think it’s directly linked to it but it’s more of like a pain thing when my back hurts so bad it’s hard to stay in the mood and that gives me performance anxiety as well so it’s a double issue . I’ve had to quit my job and find easier work that is part time thank God I have a paid off property . I have no medical insurance and not a lot of free up cash. So I tried to keep things medicinal, like eating a proper diet walking, drinking plenty of water, and trying to sleep the best that I can with my legs propped up and my back flat on a firm surface . I take Aleve twice a day. And I try to stay away from sugar, I am 300 pounds so I need to lose 120 pounds which I’m battling that because it’s hard staying active for a proper workout I love to binge eat on sugars and sweets , so I’ll go through a phase where I start to lose weight and then I guess my body craves the sugar so bad makes me give in mentally and I indulge. I’ve noticed after these phases. My pain is a lot higher, which makes me not want to exercise which makes a domino effect which goes full circle into, being depressed and back into an unhealthy bedroom life. The reason why I’ve gone a great detail is because if I decided to let my depression win these last two months, I would not be on this earth to spread my story, to possibly help someone out with their journey. Thank you for all you do, glad to see that you read everything I had to say .
Yeah. Good point. It's pretty much a doom and gloom situation. Yuk. The up side is that laminectomy is super effective, and no one needs to suffer if they take the right action.
I have severe spinal stenosis and it's such horrific pain 24/7. My whole spine is hell pain. I was diagnosed 3 years ago, and l am getting worse sadly. It's extremely debilitating and has turned my life upside down. I can't even sleep properly as the pain intensifies in bed and sitting or lying down. I used to be super fit and now l find it hard just to do daily living just in my home. It's a really scary serious medical condition.
I'm so sorry to hear this! But it doesn't make sense to me. Stenosis is not painful in bed. You really need to see a doctor ASAP to find out what is going on.
@@BestPracticeHealth l feel that there is also something else happening that is not diagnosed as the Pain is so horrible... 😭
@@BestPracticeHealth I have had steroid injections in my spine the neck to try help with the pain though it did nothing. I see my Neurosurgeon again in 2 weeks time. I seriously feel that there is something else undiagnosed. It is freaking me out as l don't understand how the doctors can't tell me properly with what is happening to my body. I seriously am watching myself go paralyzed. :(
Can I ask how old you are? I'm 35 and not sure if this is a disease for people who have had more wear and tear or if indeed others around my age have this serious condition like you have described.
@@Leaptab I am close to your age. I was super fit my whole life and did weight training since l was 16 years old. Now l can't do which makes me so sad. I just found out also that l have a bulging disc in my upper spine. I see my Neurosurgeon again next week. I have been told that l need surgery for the sever spinal stenosis L4/5 in my spine (neck). I also have moderate foraminal spinal stenosis in my lower spine. It's freaking me out as l can't work and mentally it's difficult. I am an outpatient with the hospital. On lots of pain medications. Hope you are ok beautiful as it's not an easy thing to deal with.
I have had spinal stenosis for many years. I had a recent MRI scan which showed the stenosis was very bad. It is so serious now that I am losing the strength in my legs, arms and fingers. I have had several bad falls and I struggle with day-to-day activities. I am waiting to see yet another specialist, however, at 76 years old my age is against me. Waiting for an appointment to see a specialist can take many months with the NHS. I do have bladder issues and I have a leakage problem.
I'm glad you are getting the help you deserve! Stenosis only gets worse. If you are losing function, then it's definitely time to get a decompression if your overall health allows.
I’m sorry my friend 😢, I have it to L5-S1 I hope you can find a way to get relief!!!
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"Get surgery on your back no matter what the issue is, and you'll be in a better place", said no one ever in the real world. In fact, all Ive ever heard from people around me is not only did it not make them better, but it always turned into a nightmare for the worse.
I definitely agree with the first part of your comment. Spine surgery is needed in a small percentage of cases. However, I do disagree with you on the second part. In those cases where spine surgery is needed, it works really well.
Ive heard spine surgery made patients all better & then others not so! Every day more modern techs happen. Spacers helped 2 great danes be all better. I volunteer with animals.💜🙏🐾💜
Not all surgeries are bad. I had severe lumbar stenosis at my L4-5 and it was pinching my spinal cord. I had fusion October 26 last year and my legs are no longer constantly going numb. Yeah, I still have it but it’s not all the time. No surgery is guaranteed to relieve your issues 100%, especially if you have degenerative disease of the entire spine. Having cervical stenosis isn’t fun either. Just take care of your body and realize we are not getting any younger, ladies and gentlemen
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What People don't understand with spine is there is no way to actually fix it. Surgery is only for pain management.
But don't disc bulges and herniations heal?
The music is extremely loud
We screwed up on the volume setting. Sorry, Can't change it now.
THIS HELPS ME.... The only thing that I found that helps my spinal stenosis is hanging upside down for even a minute or 2 on an inverter table (Which I purchased for just $99 at walmart). It seems to help a little more to get on facing the table then facing away from the table. The first time I did it, I sort of didn't like it. But, since then I do it several times a day and look forward to it. It's only temporary relief... But, that little relief is so nice! The relief lasts longer if you aren't active right after. If I'm having a bad day of back pain and get on this for a little bit, my pain is reduced dramatically!
Thanks for the tip!
Totally agree
I have stenosis, spondylolisthesis, spondylitis, well basically all the spondy ailments of L5 -S1. Have had it for over 20 years now. The last time I had a MRI I was at grade 2 and that was 9 years ago. I can't lay down to sleep, my hips, buttocks, legs, knees and feet are in constant pain. I know it's time for surgery, but I just don't want to be completely out of commission right now.
I understand your concern. But when you can't sleep and you're experiencing neurogenic claudication due to grade two or higher spondylolisthesis, it can indeed leave you feeling like you are already incapacitated. In such cases, lumbar fusion surgery can be a viable option to regain your mobility and alleviate the discomfort. If you're keen on avoiding an extended downtime, the solution is a minimally invasive spinal fusion procedure.
I would recommend seeking out a spine surgeon in your vicinity who specializes in minimally invasive surgery. With this approach, you could potentially return to light activities within a week or two, or at most, three weeks.
@@BestPracticeHealth I have an MRI on the 28th, and I guess I will take it from there. Thank you.
the longer you wait the more painful it is after surgery, your nerves are pinched and very hurt atm, im screaming every day from the pain after my surgery, i got nerve blockers but to fully be effective it needs to be taken for 3 days straight first, i am terrified of the damage that is dont to my nerves and hoping they heal well, it took me 20 years from my first incident to finally get surgery cause it disabled me hard, i could only walk about 15 minutes max for 4 years, this year it went down to 1 minute without cane if i was standing, if im moving without cane it was 20 seconds, now after surgery even with the pain im more mobile than i used to be.
please go get it done before it gets worst, find a good neuro surgeon that you would feel comfortable with.
Can it not be treated with a RFA , radio frequency ablation? If not can it be treated with minimal invasive surgery?
@@1MillionMileRoadTrip that is what I want to do. I have to contact my primary again. He wonders why they won't offer me surgery also. It's extremely irritating.
I feel like I’m going crazy. I feel like my legs and hips are dying. This physical therapist just told me I have fibromyalgia and while I feel like I’m made of glass, I’m perfectly able bodied. My ct scan says narrow disc space l5-s1. Endplate osteophytes and sclerosis. Disc disease and bulges l5-s1, l4-5, l3 l2.
Doesn’t this mean it’s more than fibromyalgia? I’m just going crazy being told it’s not really cause for concern. When I’m 32 and losing strength in my lower body and it’s growing up my spine. I am miserable and going crazy.
Get a different opinion. You need a spine specialist. I’m going through something similar and trying to get answers. New ortho doc and a neurologist. I was diagnosed with severe stenosis and haven’t done anything about it in 3 years. Guess what, it’s getting worse. I had a fusion to correct scoliosis about 20 years ago. Frankly I don’t know what I’m going to do about it, because the prospect of an additional fusion surgery instills no faith in me, but I’m inching closer and closer to a wheelchair in my 30s.
I suffer from narrowing around the root. Stenosis. 6 months now. painful and life changing. Spinal decompression helps a lot. And now I'm slowly starting yoga stretching. It's helping!!
I'm 59 and have Fibromialgia with back issues I'm sure from falling down. My lower body is starting to get so stiff it's hard to even get out of bed in the morning . If I don't the pain is to much. There is weakness in my legs and I cant stand for long. I started having urinary leakage trying to sit up to go to the bathroom at night. I just can't move that fast. So now I keep a bucket by my bed and try and make it. I'm so depressed and humiliated and I know the pain is going to get worse. I can barley get around some days. I can't live like this anymore it's so crazy.
Being a fireman with moderate cervical stenosis and severe right foraminal stenosis, should I continue to work for another 5 years? I have had ceilings collapse on my head, fallen down stairs, etc. Currently had injections. Dr. says he wants me to do a functional capacity test, but how will they recreate my job of lifting 400 lb people. and carrying 100 plus gear on my shoulders and head?
Thank you for being a brave fireman and saving lives! Now time to save yourself, I would try to retire from that.
first responders are always the hardest to determine their physical readiness and fitness for duty, as the physical requirements of the job can be so crazy severe. I know for me, given the importance of a clear, mental state, and doing this vital work, if you wonder if your fit for duty, then you’re probably not. It would be better to find a non-physical way to finish your career, such as more of an administrative position. I have had really good experience with functional capacity evaluations. They do have norms for physical performance to compare for almost every job, certainly fireman.
@@BestPracticeHealth I appreciate your response. I did have a FAC completed, and passed only 20%. I am currently attempting an early retirement. I have my first IME in one weeks time.
I am 29, had my cervical MRI, impression is Mild Spinal canal stenosis at C4-C5 and C5-C6. Disc buldge at C4-C6 with small central annular fissure at C5-C6. I'm quite scared because my doctor said I should not worry. Btw, what I am feeling now is a little bit of tingling sometimes in my foot and hand, slight foot aches and mild spasm(sometimes) 😭😭
Whew! The MRI is such a relief. The findings really don’t describe anything that could be causing nerve damage, or the symptoms you’re reporting. That doesn’t mean you’re not feeling them. But it usually does mean it’s not coming from your neck. That’s good news.
Music is too loud. I had difficulty hearing the doctor !
hi i was kicked in the spine over 25 times 16 years ago and i have only just found out i have a t3 wedge fracture, t9 to t12 syrinx, cervical stenosis and pinched nerve on my left side of collarbone, l3 to s1 nerve root compression yet my whole left side loses feeling in a upright position now and in excruciating pain and swollen left side of abdomen making my hiatal hernia get bigger and make my digestion and constipation worse etc yet the nhs so far in uk doing nothing
I was recently diagnosed with lumbar and cerebral spinal stenosis with 6 herniated discs. I’m very afraid to have surgery because I’ve heard nothing but bad stories and results. :( I was diagnosed last year and I’m almost to the point where it’s impossible to walk a mile. It puts me out for the rest of the day and getting up to use the bathroom after that is very stressful and difficult. Some days, I can’t get out of bed or walk at all. There has been times when I’ve lost my bowels in the middle of the night, or if I bend too far down or squat, I will lose my bladder and go on myself. It has become extremely debilitating and I don’t have a lot of support from ‘friends’ or ‘family.’ I feel so alone and this pain is unbearable. 😢
Did your doctor recommend surgery? If so, which one?
Hang in there and reach out
You have my support bro I have been suffering from it too
You need surgery. You will only continue to worsen. I have spinal stenosis too and I occasionally have problems with sudden urge to urinate. I thought it was just a bladder issue now I'm very concerned it's caused by my stenosis. I've had small surgeries for sciatica that didn't work and ended up with a spinal fusion of L4 L5, L5 S1 in 2011 that worked. I remained pain free until 2019. I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis of L3 L4. My pain has worsened and I have that sudden urge to urinate causing me to run to the bathroom. I just had a lumbar epidural injection on the 15th of Nov. It began to help and I went a few days with much less pain but it's returning. I'm willing to have surgery. There's several non-invasive surgeries that potentially can be done, but it's different for each individual. I hope you seek out a qualified surgeon. Doing nothing is a guarantee you'll only get worse. Best wishes.
It is miserable when you genuinely have excruciating pain all over your body and have embarrassing moments.
I have trained my mind to control the bowel movement and urine control.
I used to leak but i would go sit quietly in a comfortable position and just block everything out of your mind and you'll be amazed at how strong the mind is.
I'm sixty two years old and have been suffering with spinal stanosus for about ten years and unfortunately in South Africa the public hospitals are useless and never got a bed for me (The Johannesburg Hospital).
I would like to put myself out there incase an experimental drug for Spinal stanosus that other people don't have to go through what we are going through now.
Your family think your just lazy, I've never been one to be lazy as I was used long hours of work and my work was physically challenging, a tradesmen and Trade Training Instructor and trained two(2) apprentices at a time whilst having to run my own machine and had to be available to repear the other machines in case of breakdowns,I was in charge of my shift and had forteen apprentices and never had an apprentice that I trained , they are all managers or directors now.
My apologies for telling my working life history..
Please talk to someone if you go into depression as try and change every negative into a positive.
Let your mind be one with your body.
I'd love DR. Caan from Johannesburg General Hospital to do the op for me as he is one of the best Nurolgists in South Africa and has a great success rate on spinal operations.
So DR Caan, help a veteran get a percentage of my life back.🌹💯🇿🇦❤️
What did he say? Couldn't hear him over the music...
Your laughing demeanour of this explanation is worrisome…. I would hate someone like you giving me my diagnosis
Oh, sorry we're a bad fit. I hope you find what you are looking for. Hang in there!
I agree. His demeanor is like this is big joke. Haha - Nothing you can do - just hope you die before it gets unbearable. Not very good to hear if you're dealing with this. Based on his age and weight I'm sure he deals with ED. Isn't that funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“ Sorry we’re a bad fit ! “ looked in the mirror lately ? better than being a walking heart attack….
I could not agree with you more Arty Butterfly. It is definitely worrisome.
I have so many people in my life that I know with lots of issues, horrible imaging results on their MRI's
stenosis foraminal and central, and yes severe. They manage it all with their lifestyle, medications, and exercise. They are all fine. I think there is a place for surgery if life threatening, but this person has NO BUSINESS in health care as it is borderlining on sadism.
Just came across this and was thinking the same thing, at best he's very thoughtless and smug along with it, loads of more helpful folks out there with more considerate approaches to tackle this painful condition, wish you all the best.👍
I have tandem spinal stenosis involving 11 levels. I had surgery on three cervical levels in the 2000s. Now my lumbar has worsened significantly in just the last four years. I am 72. I got a 2nd opinion and that surgeon said I would need surgery on at least 8 more levels just to stabilize the spine, but I am no longer a candidate. He suggested a spinal stimulator but my pain management said no as I also have autonomic dysfunction and AFib. So I am semi functional on a combination of opiates and benzoes. But death will be my only relief as I have at least 18 nerve roots under moderate to severe entrapment, a ruptured disc at L3 - L4 with uncovered disc material floating in my cauda equina. My son and his family live in Phoenix and work for Intel, so maybe I will meet you sooner than later because the feet and legs are going and signs of incontinence are present. My current Neurosurgeon says he is done, my Nuerologist says I am a medical train wreck and the only thing they can offer is opiates and do no harm. It sucks. Now the cervical plate in my neck has created an esophageal stricture which is only 5 mm in diameter. That may kill me first...
Lumber stenosis pain becoming so bad of late I take strong medication plus sleeping pills so I sleep most of day n night not to feel my back tormenting me
I understand that sacral issues (torsion) and disc issues in terms of symptoms overlap sometimes. do you think that my glute pain when sitting, specifically, and back pain is attributed to my sacrum or stenosis. I’ve been diagnosed with mild bilateral, L4, L5, S1 foraminal stenosis. I feel a sense of instability when I’m standing-legs feel heavy even w/ PT. thanks!
Dr Lieberman answered your question today on our live show! Here is a timestamped link: th-cam.com/video/Bbvre7h96kc/w-d-xo.html
Left out a few things:
1. I had slippage between vertebrate causing great pain. PT strengthened my core and solved the problem.
2. I had bone spurs on the lamina. Surgery removed them and solved the problem.
3. The orthopedic surgeon wanted to remove the lamina and fuse the vertebrae. The neurosurgeon just wanted to drill out the bone spurs. I chose the neurosurgeon and that solved the problem.
I hope you fully research your issues through doctors, friends and yes even the Internet.
thank you so much for sharing your experience!
Dr. - your sincerity in this video is greatly appreciated. May I ask please...my MRI report says I have severe right sided foraminal stenosis at L1-2. The surgeon I recently met with said, "It's not too bad," and scheduled me with a colleague in his practice for facet injections at the L1-2 and L4-5 where I had a hemilaminectomy 27 years ago. Now, an MRI I had 2.5 years ago showed no problem with L1-2. The current MRI report states that the disc is severely degenerated, there is severe right foraminal narrowing, modic changes in both vertebrae, endplate ebernation, large osteophyte complex, bilateral facet arthropathy, moderate thecal sac narrowing and right subarticular recess narrowing. The Dr. I met with said I'm not at risk for cauda equina syndrome. From the get go, before I met with him and had the MRI report in hand back in March, I was figuring a foraminotomy would be the way to go. I am concerned that there is some new paradigm at work in your field that might be putting me at risk. Please Dr. Lieberman...what say you? Thanks.
Sir my mri says i have left neural foramen narrowed by uncovertebral joint hypertrophy. I gave been having neck pain and stiffness for weeks now? Is this why? Please help.
Does mri show everything ?
Yes and No. MRI is very sensitive, meaning if you have a problem it should show it. But as with all test, there is a false negative rate. That means you can have a negative MRI but miss a problem.
Thank you for explaining this condition in such a succinct and easily understandable manner. I've had ridiculously bad pain in my lower back and hips for a couple of months. Mostly on my left side. An MRI done last week revealed "severe" stenosis. Every assessment of every area said "severe" in the radiologist's impression. My PCP has referred me to a neurosurgeon. Sure hope I can get some relief.
I have severe spinal stenosis on multiple levels. My left leg is fully numb and my right leg is numb as well. I can’t walk, my bladder is messed up and I’m told that I can’t have surgery. The pain in my legs and back pain is awful.
Not enough physical activity or over activity
Is ACDF thorough enough for cord compression and bilateral neural foraminal stenosis.
“”Should I ask for Foraminotomy???””
I just got my test i got narrowing of my spin and push on my never and my disk my legs are week i trip over carpts in stors like i cant barly pick my feet up . I go nums, between my legs up thih too i got pain running down my left leg and it goes to my heal. Ill just pea and im 42, i tierd of being in pain im in and of hot baths, i had the shots it font help. I just dont know what to do any more. I told my pain doctor i just het gabapentin,. I been having hard time sleeping . Any idea what i can my doctor
I have a mild diffuse disc bulge and foraminal steonisis at L3-L4, mild bilateral subarticular and foraminal stenosis, and diffuse bulge at L4-L5, mild spinal canal stenosis with mild effacement of bilateral subarticular recesses. I'm just 31 and I feel that my feet are constantly tingling... will this only get worse? Should I get surgery ASAP or try with phsyiotherapy? Will staying fit and active into my 40s just be impossible?
The changes in the report you list are all mild. All of us can expect mild changes with aging. Everyone is different, but please don't think that mild changes are going to ruin your life. They're normal.
I have this condition I'm 30 a Spine an pain doctor sent me to hypnotherapy told me my pain is in my head I been suffering the past 2 years
Most of the time when I hear "my doctor said it's in my head" it ends up being either a misread MRI or the pain is coming from the facet joints which radiologists often do not read on their reports. Either way, hypnosis is not the answer.
I had the same told it's all in my head and I have fibromyalgia instead
Music is way too loud can’t concentrate on what your saying
Sorry. We can't fix at this point. We will avoid going forward.
I'm 36 have mild spinal stenosis and left hip impingement was also in a car accident (rollover 80km Dec 2010) have skin graft over the top of the left foot but the nerve in the left leg is always making my leg sleep if I lay on my back I can not lay on my left at all.
Based on what I know it sounds like you have neuropathic pain. The best drug treatment time and time again is lyrica. Have you tried that?
The music in the beginning is louder than your speaking. Can barely hear what you’re saying over it.
Sorry.
Can you link to the next video? Please, I’m in hospital right now with this diagnosis….not sure what to do next. Thanks
Oh NO! I hope you are OK. Bless your heart. Check out my playlist on stenosis. th-cam.com/play/PLsYo8ENYsvpxJc9oGYtLP3jEQ3zpLSx2I.html
I recently got diagnosed and I’m only 35. I’m honestly scared but not at the same time it’s weird. It’s from degenerative discs.
Me too. Diagnosed at 38. I’m 41 now. Trying to manage by abdominal strengthening and using an inversion table. Working smarter and not harder
I am frustrated with my regular Dr. I have 20 years of stenosis….injections…fusion, laminectomy (which has helped) now my last mri shows bulging L5 on a nerve…I am waiting for my appointment with a great surgeon…but in the mean time..in pain, my Dr. will not give me medication ……. I am sleeping on a heating pad..my pain started in August…my appointment is November, the emergency department told me not to come back for pain shots.. the emergency Dr. addressed this with my Dr. about the pain…nothing…
Uh, yes! I'm frustrated just reading this. What is your doctor doing? (Although I do agree with the no medicine part. Narcotics are so dangerous!) It sounds like you have non-specific low back pain that could be radiculopathy, facet, or the waste basked "post laminectomy" pain. The next step is typically diagnostic medial branch block and epidurals to sort out the pain generator. You need a good pain management doctor. Do you have one? I recommend people who are double board certified and who do not use chronic narcotics.
Spinal Stenosis is EXTREMELY SERIOUS. . . .. . I was diagnosed with this pain about 3 weeks ago. . I can't seen to get an MRI, but seems like everytime my MRI date comes up, something happens and I can't make it. . . . . .
How can you not get an MRI? I literally got into one for $400 in a week.
I was diagnosed with moderate facet arthropathy of the L5-S1, mild neuroforaminal stenosis and spinal stenosis, with disc desiccation and height loss. 10 years of complaining about this pain with so many unusual and fluctuating symptoms. I underwent many x-rays, and even a laparoscopy at 17 to determine the source and none was found. So I was sent off and told it was all in my head and given birth control for the pain which obviously did nothing. At 26 I stepped on a stool, ya a stool, and it caused my left foot to go numb along with portions of my pelvis and weakness and tingling in both my legs. I had to plead for an MRI, when my PCP wanted to send me to PT, now I am being sent to a spine surgeon and it has been 10 weeks, needless to say this has been shocking but it makes so much sense.
Have you seen a pain management doctor? Your note does not mention any conditions (severe stenosis, large disc herniations, deformity, etc) that typically benefits from surgery. Often in cases like yours the best doctors turns out to be a pain management. You want one who is double board certified and does not over-prescribe narcotics.
Seems like surgery doesn’t do shit either cause I see people complaining often after surgery
I hear you. But spine surgery can indeed be very effective when it's the appropriate solution for the right patient with the right problem. It's a complex decision, often weighed carefully when other interventions haven't provided relief, especially in cases of severe pain or neurological deficits. While there are no guarantees and surgery isn't a perfect option, in many cases, it becomes the best available choice to improve a patient's quality of life.
@@BestPracticeHealthBS from a Medical doctor no one needs surgery. Go to the gym! Problem solved.
I am 70 I had spinal stenosis and didn't know it and a Chiropractor herniated my L4. I also have multiple bulging discs. I get on the floor and do back stretches every morning. I take 4 Gabapentin a day and 2 aspirins. I do use creams on my legs as needed. With doing all this my Stenosis is managed. I always am in a pain level of 2 or 3. That I can take, But I have to do the work. I still clean my home do the shopping and walk the dog, without stretching I would be in a wheel chair.
Stretching and enhancing your range of motion is a fantastic approach, not only for spinal stenosis but for various other conditions too. Your proactive approach is commendable and will greatly benefit you as you age.
May I share my concerns about your current treatment approach? I genuinely care about your well-being, and I'm not convinced about the care you're receiving. Spinal stenosis is progressive, and while managing symptoms is vital, it's equally crucial to monitor the underlying condition's progression. Regular MRI surveillance is essential to track the rate of deterioration.
I have reservations about Gabapentin as a long-term solution for sciatica. It's a drug with significant side effects, impacting not just your physical health but also your cognitive and emotional well-being. If MRI confirms severe stenosis and you find it challenging to manage without Gabapentin daily, I strongly urge you to consider a Laminectomy surgery now. Waiting might only mean dealing with it in a less favorable state in the future. Your current age and health are factors to consider in making this decision.
I am in a wheelchair most of the time, but that way i can go out and spend quality time with my family outside of the house, other than that I just rest as much as possible, but I feel my legs are been strangled by the vains, pulling tighter just like barbed wire and when I sit, it feels like I'm sitting on stones, minimal feeling from waist down, I wish all who are suffering with this illness, I really feel your pain, and depressions.
Love 💕 to all of you and pray you all recover, maybe there will still be a breakthrough in spinal stanosus, and we all can get help.
Im 39 years old. I just had an mri on my spine because an xray showed moderate to severe degeneration disc height loss and facet hypertrophy. The MRI was ordered by a rheumatologist to clinically correlate it with the xray and blood results I recently got showing high levels of inflammation (c protein) and rhematic factor but he really didn't explain the results of this MRI or he didn't know how to. I'm being referred to a neurosurgeon- ok great (waiting on that) But in the meantime I'm dealing with increasing symptoms as far as my ability to walk sometimes with extreme leg heaviness my ability to pee, lift my kids...sometimes episodes of vertigo at night but that jas only happened 3 times. Overall this seems to get progressively worse as the day goes on and sometimes causes sciatica pain. Anyway my results state a grade 3 spinal canal stenosis with complete effacement of csf and distortion, slight T2 hyperintense signal possibly due to myelomacia or edema, along with grade 2 stenosis is other parts as well.as neural forminal stenoses. What does this essentially mean? Will surgery most likely be involved? Am I working against a clock at all with this? This whole process started3 months ago with the inflamamtion symptoms wrecking my body but that since has been managed with a 6 day course of prenisdone. As far as my medical history- I have none really- relatively healthy, no accidents, surgeries or even a broken bone and reasonably active into sports. Any help or explanation is appreciated. Thanks
I assume the MRI was of your neck? It sounds like your doctor made the right call and referred you to a surgeon. Call the surgeons office and see how quickly you can get in there. Let them know you’re having unstable neurological symptoms and need to be rushed.
Is there an inversion table to use to treat spinal stenosis
No. Inversion is not a treatment for spinal stenosis.
Good video. Very helpful, lots of good information. I have severe spinal stenosis and I'm afraid of what will happen if I don't have surgery. I'm not clear though, wouldn't a room have 4 walls?
Well that's a good point. I guess your spinal canal ---which has two walls, a roof and a floor--- is more like a cabanna.
I get so confused between all the terminology. Is spinal stenosis the same as foraminal narrowing? I have a big herniated disc between c6/c7 causing a lot of narrowing
Amen! The terminology really is confusing. Stenosis means narrowing. But the term is not specific. You can have narrowing of the central spinal canal, the lateral recess, or even the frame itself. To make matters worse, each of these can occur alone, or in combination.
My left leg I cannot bend because of lumbar stenosis. I find my self in bed mostly because of the pain.
Hi Doctor. Can spinal stenosis cause drop foot and muscle weakness, atrophy and twitching???
Hi, Lana,
Lumbar spinal stenosis typically causes claudication-pain that radiates down the leg when walking. As the stenosis worsens, it can affect individual nerve roots, leading to radiculopathy. While twitching isn’t usually a sign of radiculopathy, the rest of your symptoms definitely align with it. Twitching is more commonly linked to disorders originating closer to the brain. Neurologists refer to symptoms in the arms or legs caused by brain and spinal cord issues as "upper motor neuron" signs. When both upper and lower motor neuron signs are present, it could be indicative of a condition like amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS).
In short, you should consult with a doctor. It’s uncommon that the best path for back problems to start with a neurologist, but given the twitching, this may be one of those rare situations where it's appropriate.
Hi I was in the military got out medical discharge in 2019 at the age of 23 because I have spinal stenosis disk degenerative disease bone spurs and herniated disk. It's hard living with these condition because I wish I could live a normal life but I just keep pushing everyday next option I'm thinking about is surgery should I go that route?
It depends if you have central stenosis and your cord is compressed . I have cord compression at 4/5 5/6 and 5 foraminal openings are closed around the nerve root . I have a numb hand and wierd nerve sensation but no pain much . I’m fighting on until I begin to get myopathy then I’ll get surgery
@@AndyL940 yea my spine is comrpess and I have no fluids
Sounds like yours is in the neck, not the low back. Just be aware that 50% of people with myelopathy do not improve after surgery. They don't get worse, but the damage is done. Don't wait too long!
Isn’t a disc replacement the fix ?
investigate it hard. make sure you the supporting vertebrae can support it. mine wont.
I can't walk now, I have severe stenosis in every vertebra so no surgery for me. medicare has stopped supporting specials. $500 to $3000 to see a specialist and another $3000 to-4000 to get reports good enough for NDIA to get cleaning or mowing and even after this you still may get rejected. Or your forms were lost because my workers are incompetent. Now after being advised that a quarter of my daily funding had to pay for an OT who said I didn't look like I was in pain. How a 25-year-old who is not a medical professional, can come and disprove MRI scans, CT, and Full bone scan plus specialist reports. All my support has been cut due to not enough evidence. then they send me a satisfaction survey where i cant put any actual event in.
Multilevel cervical spine degenerative changes resulting in mild C2-C3 to C6-C7 spinal canal stenosis and severe left C3-C4, bilateral C5-C6 and left C6-7 neural foraminal narrowing.
My right side of my body my bicep tricep and chest has atrophied, surgery at this point is what’ll be needed right? Question is what type of surgery is best?,
Yikes! Sounds like ACDF is in your future. Check this out: th-cam.com/play/PLsYo8ENYsvpw4Stuy_0iYeOhW4gV3fk-T.html
@@BestPracticeHealth I'm supposed to get that soon at UCSF Spine Center for C5 to C7. Thanks for the playlist!
I have congenital cervical stenosis and lumbar stenosis. Ihave bee dealing with cervical stenosis sense age 11 i am now disabled. I had acdf surgery in 2016 that didn't help i guess i waited to long for surgery. I also have foraminal stenosis,ddd spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and other issues in my neck and back.
Oh, man. That's a lot to deal with. Congenital stenosis is usually treated by laminectomy, not ACDF. Maybe get a second opinion form another spine surgeon?
I just had a CT lung scan and they found cysts at T9-T10 22mm being the largest. The pain is horrible going down my right butt cheek and into calf of my leg and making my toes tingle. It does come and go though with best relief in the morning after I get up and shake off the stiffness. Technically- cystic structures at multiple bilateral neural foramen. But it says left side, my pain is on right side. Anyway, seeing PC doc on Tuesday so hope they'll do a MRI. Been having pain on and off for 3 years but this times its lasted over a month. I have to manually lift my right leg up to get in the car. ughh... sucks getting old and now I can't play tennis.. the love of my life.
I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis, cause equine syndrome an scoliosis 11hrs ago. Was told by a surgeon because of t heart defects I was born with I had a 1in4 chance of making it through surgery, let alone recovery, less than 10% chance of getting feeling and use in my legs. Mum got told to put me in a nursing home as if b bedridden t rest of my life I turned 40 in that hospital.
I'm so glad you made it. Hang in there. The odds are for planning, if you get better than it's 100% for you. Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.
I unfortunately suffer from several spinal conditions including this . i was told there was nothing that could be done, complicated why. I was told that i would be in a wheelchair by 50. I have made it to 51 and not in the chair yet. unfortunately i feel that day coming.
Who ever told you that was wrong. Come on my show if you want to discuss this further. Fill out this form and my team will get you scheduled. phoenixspineandjoint.com/resources/best-practice/
I felt the same way I had 5 level laminectomy surgery at 50 and now I feel great no more pain in my legs and I can finally sleep after 10 years of not being able to 👍
I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis and neurophoraminal encroachment. My doctors think it’s no big deal.
How severe is it? Look on the MRI report and it should be rated from mild, moderate, to severe or even marked. Mild or moderate stenosis are usually nothing to worry about. Severe is a different animal and marked is downright dangerous.
Mild on the mri doesnt mean anything to us patients that are in severe pain and then just the report says mild degeneration or something lol
@@BestPracticeHealthstill causing severe pain....
Hello, I have severe foraminal stenosis c5-6,7,8. I am only 56 years old. What should I do?? Thank you.
Is n’t anyone talking about cervical
Stenosis
It is similar but the issue is spinal cord compression and myelopathy, not nerve root compression (radiculopathy). Do you have this issue?
@@BestPracticeHealth yeah apparently my spinal diameter around c5 and c6 is just 5.5 mm.. And there is nerve compression and it would get worse it seems.
I HAVE STENOSIS OF BOTH C AND L SPINE. ALMOST COMPLETELY STOPPED FLOW OF SPINAL FLUID
@@charleshammons5383 what’s the cervical diameter currently and what symptoms are you facing now?
What are your views on decompression therapy such as IDD for stenosis? I have stenosis and a herniated disc so am going to fry this therapy as a surgery alternative
Decompression therapy can be a valuable treatment option, but not for stenosis or disc disease. Decompression therapy, often used in the form of traction, is typically most effective for conditions related to facet-mediated low back pain. These conditions are often characterized by arthritis visible on X-ray and swollen joints as seen on MRI scans.
However, decompression therapy, such as traction, is not suitable for herniated discs or stenosis. These conditions have different underlying causes and mechanisms of pain, which require alternative treatments.
For herniated discs, more targeted approaches like physical therapy, epidural steroid injections, or in some cases, surgical interventions, may be considered.
Stenosis, on the other hand, is laminectomy surgery to decompress the spinal canal, leading to compression of the spinal cord or nerve roots.
When should you have surgery, if your stenosis is moderate, or if it gets severe?
It depends on your symptoms are the risks of surgery. Timing is something to talk over with a good spine surgeon. Do you have one?
@@BestPracticeHealth no
If it's DEADLY serious then why are neurosurgeons giving options to surgery.
I had bad leg hip and back pain last week, this week the pain isn't as bad. I have a dull pain instead of sharp pain last week
Sounds like a facet pain. Make sure you have no red flags! Otherwise, rest, moist heat, and safe anti-inflammatories. If the pain persists for 3 weeks its best to see a doctor and get an x-ray.
This is insane. My doc thinks nothing is wrong. Have had debilitating leg pain for the last 4 months, mostly stuck in bed. Literally, my mind is blown after watching this. Also having urinary retention,. constipation, I've got 2 known disk bulges and multiple lumbar fractures,and MRI said mild to moderate spinal stenosis. Im 33. Funny how the states has more public knowledge on TH-cam than Canada. Ite pathetic
In my own experience the most common cause of debilitating leg pain without an obvious cause is a missed lateral herniated disc on the MRI. One thing you can do is to call your MRI center and request that the study be re-read by a radiologist who is board certified in neuroradiology.
@@BestPracticeHealth thank you! I actually have an urgent MRI scheduled for Saturday, after in emerg last Saturday night, got a call Tuesday and they scheduled me in for appnt
@@BestPracticeHealth main symptoms I have are:
Shooting pain down leg from buttox, into foot.
Lower leg/foot constantly tingling and numbness
Leaning forward constantly, not able to walk back back straight, too painful
Urinary retention, getting worse
Pain wrapping around from buttox to lower abdomen, area is very painful with bowel movements
Can spinal stenosis give your eyes double vision like lazy eyes in young children?
I'm 26 and have moderate to severe spinal stenosis and 2 large disk bulges in my lower back and I've been in constant pain for over 3 years 😅
I love playing flag football and basketball with my family and friends. I am currently 25. I was unfortunately diagnosed with severe right side L5-S1 stenosis. It's given me sciatica and has been brutal. Will I ever be able to play with them again? Is this something I can recover from?
What is causing the stenosis? If it is a disc herniation, then that will slowly get better, and you can expect to get back to full function. Stenosis due to a narrowing of the spinal canal you were born with only gets worse as you age, and at 25 years old you have a lot of aging to do. If you have that kind of stenosis, then you should look into surgery sooner rather than later.
Hey Bradley, Dr Lieberman answered your question today on our live show. Here is a timestamped link: th-cam.com/users/liveLryTnQ3aC6I?feature=share&t=2355
Crazy bro I’m 23 with the same thing and same aspirations haven’t been able to hoop or just do regular daily stuff
Did u get a procedure done?
@@zachrussell7832literally I’m 24 had a bad car accident and the pain from this seriously ruins your day hope u feel better I’m seeing a physiotherapist twice a week but still bad pain
15 years of a of pain , the feeling is like a fork was stabbed in a certain area then twisted.
Oh, man. That's so long. I'm so sorry. Pain is not meant to last that long and is so harmful. I usually call it "knife int he back pain," but I guess it could just as well be a fork. It's usually caused by a torn disc. Does your MRI show an annular tear and end plate edema?
My does, what are the options for torn disc and edema?
Well. I just had a C2-C5 fusion last week. It sucks so far
Very painful surgery at first when done form the back. Hang in there!
@@BestPracticeHealth They did this one from the front. Pushed the stuff out of the way.
Can spinal stenosis due to bulging disc be cured completely?
It shouldn't be. Stenosis due to a bulging disc alone is not typically severe enough so as to require surgery or any intervention.
@@BestPracticeHealth is there any way the pain of bulging disc +stenosis can be cured?
at 64 I am in constant pain. My dad had stenosis and suffered for years. Mine is genetic and I do have pain when sitting or lying down- walking- anything i do!
I'm so sorry to hear that. Hang in there. Get the help you need!
I’m 30 and I have cervical thoracic and lumber stenosis from working so hard now I’m screwed
Yep i got congenital in all 3 regions. All are 10mm and 9mm. With 8 herniated disc! It hurts and I’m 34. I use RSO THC oil for the pain. Please don’t get addicted to those narcs
@@mikewilkins2030 damn son. It’s not addiction when it makes u feel normal.. I have tried everything. Weed and oil all day then something to sleep. That something can be anything as long as u don’t take it everyday.
Have you tried CBD?
I'm officially traumatized by what can be ahead of me. 5mm canal opening l5-S1,spurs, bulging discs, degenerative disc disease , severe osteoporosis, osteo arthritis, 4th vertebrae slipped over it. In operable due to lack of bone density. End plate damage spurs , Daily injections of Tymlos. I'm looking into a Dr in Cincinnati, ultrasonic surgery widening the canal! Ambulatory surgery at The Best Surgery CTR. FDA Approved, technique and instruments. No hardware! High success rate.Dr. Gerkin I think. 70 yrs old, & scared. Medicare approved... ...
Sounds like you need a laminectomy! It's normal to be affraid, but don't let the fear keep you from getting the care you need. Osteoporosis is not a reason not to have laminectomy. I am afraid you've been given mis-information. Come on the show and we can straighten this out. phoenixspineandjoint.com/resources/best-practice/
Music way too loud.
Sorry.
@@BestPracticeHealth No need to apologize. I was just providing feedback to improve your videos.
I was recently diagnosed with this. I am going to be getting treatment by an orthopedic doctor. Surgery was not an option given to me yet. I am scared.
Fear is normal. You can't a should not control that. What you can control is your reaction to that fear. Don't let it paralyze you into making bad decisions. You've got this. Hang in there and see your doctor. Do your homework so you know what questions are important to ask. I have a whole playlist on spinal stenosis. Check that it. It will help.
@@BestPracticeHealth I am seeing my Orthopedic doctor and doing whatever I can.
Dont do it vdigitalmedianow. Do all of your research. Dont be fear mongered into anything. Do what feels right for you and do your research. 👍
can cervical ddd be secodary thoracolumbar spine ddd
Yes. Lack of range of motion of the thoracic spine due to DDD often leads to accelerated degeneration of the cervical spine. How old are you? Having both neck and thoracic DDD at a young age is a sign you have inherited lousy discs. (Did mom or dad have DDD?). People with weak discs need strong muscles to compensate. Consider investing in a core strengthening program for life, yoga or tai chi are the most popular.
@@BestPracticeHealth I AM 70 YRS OLD AND HAVE SUFFERED DDD, SPINAL STANOSES & BULGING DISC LOWER BACK FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 6MO. AGO I HAD XRAY OF MY NECK DONE, IT SHOWED ADVANCED C5-C6 DDD. CAN THE LOWER BACK DDD BE LINKED TO THE C5-C6 DDD
Hi G.E. Dr Lieberman answered your question today on our live show. Here is a timestamped link: th-cam.com/users/liveLryTnQ3aC6I?feature=share&t=2455
I just got diagnosed with spinal stenosis at 30 ):
MUSIC TOO LOUD
No pain meds this is not a country i grew up in, they helped you in the past; your loved ones were taken care of.
Now all it is, is “injection mills”.
Solid pain in spine low and high loosing my will to live anymore cause every day is so much pain and suffering.
I’m so sorry you’re in so much pain, and that it’s become severe enough to make you question your will to live. I’m also concerned you mentioned needing care for your loved ones. Is someone else in your family struggling right now, too?
Please remember, there are effective treatments for nearly all spinal conditions, with the exception of malignant tumors. Everyone deserves help when they’re sick or in pain, and I can tell from your comment that you’re truly in pain.
The issue with certain medications is that they can sometimes make things worse. You mentioned "injection mills," which, for those unfamiliar, refers to places that perform injections just to run up bills without providing real relief. These injections don’t work, and you end up trapped in a cycle of returning for more injections or pain pills. It’s a terrible situation.
My best advice is to visit BestPracticeHealth.com to find the right doctor. You need to start by identifying the root cause of your pain and understanding the best practices for treating it.
Please hang in there and know that help is available. It's your job to find it.
dang it, I was just diagnosed with multiple bulging disks and spinal stenosis, i been in severe pain for years.
Uh oh. The clock is ticking.
Thanks for the info.
Good information
Thanks! Stenosis is so common people often don't take it as seriously as we should. To learn more about spinal stenosis check out the rest of our content in this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLsYo8ENYsvpxJc9oGYtLP3jEQ3zpLSx2I.html. If you need surgery you can learn more about laminectomy here: phoenixspineandjoint.com/spine/treatments/lumbar-laminectomy/.
Can a bulging disc cause spinal stenosis?
Yep.
@@BestPracticeHealth And how you treat this? Only surgery?
oh for gawd sake turn off the music
Thanks for the tip.
MUSIC IS TOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDD cant hear what you're saying
Thanks for the heads up.
Surgery doesn’t fix problem. It may even make things worse
Wow you don’t give much hope
Oh, snap! Sorry! You should have hope! If you have stenosis surgery will take care of it, and you will do well. What's your situation?
Good to sell those spinal surgeries. I’m not going to rush into spine surgery without trying physical therapy first.
Feel a lot better after surgery 👍
@@DVD927 good luck with that it made mine a lot worse I dealt with it for ten years and now that I had surgery I feel a lot better no more pain shooting down my legs I will probably have to have surgery again later down the road because arthritis in my spine but it’s nice to not be in pain anymore
@@JohnSmith-bw9wuHi, can you do any exercises after surgery? When u have healed ofcource
I’m very frustrated with my doctors
Yikes. I'm sorry to hear that. Second opinion?
Video to make you scared,
It’s not a video to make you scared it’s legit really what goes on this is not a scare tactic video at all. This is not a joke. I have moderate lumbar spinal stenosis that was caused from a semi accident four months ago and I can feel it’s coming on and some days. The pain is so bad you can’t literally move. I am so scared for what the future holds so no this is good information.
Whatever it be never panic, try conservative treatment, do physiotherapy, consult a good doctor and have faith in yourself. Drink 3 ltr water and Everything will definitely be ok
Good advice. Most things heal themselves. However, there are a few things that just need to be fixed: complete ACL tear, complete rotator cuff tear, Bankhardt lesion, severe stenosis, and severe knee and hip arthritis. IMO.
i have that
ok. this hurts beyond compare, I have ask many of my friends to just run me over with their car, shoot me in the spine,. anything to stop the pain, and it keeps growing worse, seems by the day. exercise makes me hurt so much more, but if I sit still, I can hardly walk about 60 percent of the time, with outlooking like frankenstien on crack, IT HURTS SO MUCH. The Dr.s tell me I have so many problems, but yet they keep saying go exercise, it hurts so much to walk, more and more. does this pain follow you when you die...
I'm so sorry to hear that. No one should suffer like you describe. I hope you get help ASAP. How long has this been going on? Is the pain more in your back or your leg? Have you had an MRI or x-ray? The place to start depends on the answers to these questions.
PS. The car and gun thing don't work.
This guy is selling surgery as ONLY option. Simply not true.
I don't offer surgery, so I'm not selling it. Surgery is definitely not the only option. It's just the only effective one.
you are one of the worst people who spoke about this matter. i have stenosis on C4 to C7 and its more than severe. painful yes, i am unable to do many things, but when you say the only way to beat it is to die before it gets worse is such insensitive and you should not be a medical practitioner by any given chance. stenosis has multi-factor origin either discs or joints or ..., but most of it if not causing symptoms should not be touched. if its symptomatic, then you consider non surgical options and only go to surgery when all other options are exhausted.
I’m 28, stage 3 almost stage 4 spinal stenosis. S1-L3 are all ruptured, and last I have a bulging L2.
I have almost No Pain some days….when I’m inflamed…..death to the world lol 😂
Yikes! Did mom or dad have a lot of back trouble? Sounds like you inherited bad discs.
@@BestPracticeHealth yes. My mom has degenerative disc disease, my grandma had osteoporosis and scoliosis, my dad died from Wagner’s disease, my grandfather’s on both sides died from heart attacks. I don’t think 70% of the men in my family live to be 65 probably poor diet and health and inherited health problems.
I come back to this channel every now and then and watch this exact video, and it gives me comfort. I appreciate the work that you do and the advice that you give.
I figured you do this for a living you would like to know a little background just for giggles .
I go through phases where I will be extremely inflamed, and then it completely goes away without warning and I feel like a normal 20-year-old. But I can see that in my last comment I was feeling fine then, and now I guess I’m going through a bad phase , and my back is giving me extreme pain. And I’ve had to seek counseling for depression. So I’m not exactly sure what to do but I know one thing narcotics will not be the path for me. I could not imagine having back pain and battling narcotics.
For my pain, I walk for a while, even though the walking hurts at that moment it helps my overall pain long-term. When I sit down or lay down or do the combination of both for too long on the couch and in my bed, I have sharp stabbing pains that run from my lower back down to my calf and into my foot And it hurts like hell.
I have had some performance problems in the bedroom over my back pain. I don’t think it’s directly linked to it but it’s more of like a pain thing when my back hurts so bad it’s hard to stay in the mood and that gives me performance anxiety as well so it’s a double issue .
I’ve had to quit my job and find easier work that is part time thank God I have a paid off property .
I have no medical insurance and not a lot of free up cash. So I tried to keep things medicinal, like eating a proper diet walking, drinking plenty of water, and trying to sleep the best that I can with my legs propped up and my back flat on a firm surface .
I take Aleve twice a day. And I try to stay away from sugar, I am 300 pounds so I need to lose 120 pounds which I’m battling that because it’s hard staying active for a proper workout I love to binge eat on sugars and sweets , so I’ll go through a phase where I start to lose weight and then I guess my body craves the sugar so bad makes me give in mentally and I indulge. I’ve noticed after these phases. My pain is a lot higher, which makes me not want to exercise which makes a domino effect which goes full circle into, being depressed and back into an unhealthy bedroom life.
The reason why I’ve gone a great detail is because if I decided to let my depression win these last two months, I would not be on this earth to spread my story, to possibly help someone out with their journey. Thank you for all you do, glad to see that you read everything I had to say .
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John Sarno is the answer! Trust me!
Agree to disagree. Rehabilitation cannot make a small hole larger. That's magic, not science.
Dude, you have zero bedside manner 👀
Serious because I will need an operation and pay a back surgeon lots of money so he can buy a yacht?
How much money do you think a surgeon make doing a laminectomy? Watch my show today to find out.
Sucks. I live in Canada so ill pay exactly $0.
What a horrible man. Let’s talk about click bait. Horrendous.
what a negative doom monger video
Yeah. Good point. It's pretty much a doom and gloom situation. Yuk. The up side is that laminectomy is super effective, and no one needs to suffer if they take the right action.
You sound sweet ❤
My wife thinks so!
Nincs hang
Army here and sir thankyou. 🫡