Not All Nemo Tents Are Created Equal!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2023
- There's no question that Nemo makes incredible camping and backpacking tents. Of the Dagger OSMO and Dragonfly OSMO, which tent is best for you? A full, in depth comparison of the Dagger OSMO and Dragonfly OSMO from Nemo.
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I would highly recommend the Dragonfly 3P over the Dagger 2P for a true two person tent. It’s a palace with better features and at the same/lighter weight!
I do love that there's a 3 person option for the Dragonfly. Definitely the better option for two people.
yeah,I’m choosing the tents between dagger 2p (1.84kgs)and dragonfly 2p(1.41kgs) ,until someone told me that dragonfly has 3p types in 1.51kgs,it made me turn up a new way. My wife used to hiking with me in a width 1.2m pad instead of single pad 😂.So dragonfly 2p is not suit for us. I want to ask you for the space is enough and comfortable,right?
@@user-jc8di7rk1f Compared to the Dragonfly/Dagger 2P, the Dragonfly 3P will feel significantly larger.
It is slightly shorter than the Dagger 2P by ~5 cm, but it is 5 cm taller and much wider by 25-50 cm. As someone almost 2m tall, I would much rather have the Dragonfly 3P if I was going to sleep in the same tent with another person.
@@BigDawgCAM thanks for u replying me and show my the correct choice. By the way, can I ask u some questions, where did you buy the Dragonfly and what was the price? I live in China, there's even no ways to but the tents like Nemo, Big Agenes, Msr Hubba, Rei Rome.........
I’m a little worried about the rain fly not covering the entire side on the head end. I currently have the dagger 2 but I’m looking at returning it for the dragonfly 3p. Do you know if the 3p dragonfly has enough room in the overhead pocket for an iPad? The dagger has no such pocket. Pictures online show the 2p dragonfly with a large pocket that can fit it. But the 3p dragonfly looks to have a smaller pocket… hard to tell.
I have and really like the Dragonfly 2P. I bought it before the OSMO fabric was introduced. I'm usually using it solo, but it's certainly big enough for two adults considering both have vestibules. The internal storage really elevates it to another level.
thanks for video. I was not sure which one to pick, and now it's clear for me
Devin, very detailed video, makes it much easier to decide on which tent. I would really like a comparison between the Dragonfly OSMOS 2P and the lighter Hornet OSMOS 2P . Thank you !!!
I finally bought my first high end backpacking tent and it was the Dragonfly Osmo 2P. Wow, what an amazing tent. I use it for solo hiking and is so spacious and not heavy at all. I am in love with this tent!
Do you think would fit two mattress ?
@@segundaordem they have to be tapered/mummy style and 20” wide, otherwise no. I use it for solo. I don’t feel cramped and it’s not a heavy tent at all. For two I do feel it would be cramped. I could see sharing it with my wife but not a buddy.
Thanks for the review! I’m going to get the dragonfly.
Great Video Devin, thank you for sharing this with us.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This video came exactly in the right moment! Thanks!
Wouldnt the Dragonfly 3P 1560g (vs Dagger 2P 1430g) not be the best option then? Much more SPace and only 130g more?!
Thx for the direct comparison.
Thank you!!
THANK YOU for this information, it was super helpful.
I’m a massive fan of NEMO tents. I have had two iterations of the Dragonfly 2P. I’ve loved both. I adore the OSMO version of the Dragonfly, personally. I had a Big Agnes Copper Spur for a bit and the rain fly sags like crazy in any consistent rain. Ended up returning it. Also the nylon on the Big Agnes tears if you look at it too quickly. The Dragonfly OSMO is stout in wind and rain, spacious, durable, love the features and weight. For a freestanding 2P tent I personally think the Dragonfly 2P OSMO is currently the best on the market.
But it looks like the rainfly doesn’t cover the one side well at all?
@@SneakyCaleb It covers everything very well in my experience! I have used this tent while getting battered all night by a storm on the Washington coast. Sea spray and heavy rain all night and high winds too! Not a drop of water in the tent.
@@RainerGolden just placed an order for the 3p version of the dragonfly !
Just used my REI coupon and points on the Dragonfly osmo2 w footprint. Been using the REI PASSAGE 1 for 12 years now. Bombproof little tent but a tad heavy, and small. Can’t wait to get out with the Nemo!
Thank you for advices. What about two mattress on it ? Does it fit or dragon fly is more for solo as the video says. ?
Great comparison video. I just bought the Dragonfly (haven’t used it yet) and I was debating between these two tents. Most likely I will be using it solo with the occasional plus one. So I think I made the right choice.
To prepare for the Dragonfly’s tapered foot end, I also bought a tapered sleeping pad based on the recommendation from another gear review I watched about these tents.
Good video. I am awaiting delivery of the Mayfly OSMO 2 person for bikepacking. I snagged it for $340. I looked hard at both the Dagger and the Dragonfly but opted for the savings. All of these tents are truly awesome and all are a good price compared to other lightweight tents. The OSMO fabric is what sold me. I know what nylon does when it gets wet. Hopefully the OSMO is a game changer in that regard. I subbed.
Captain Nemo's Landing Zone on the Dagger looks like a really good water basin for washing up!
Lol. So funny for me because your newest video…. Brings up for me that you helped me buy my tent, lol.
I debated between BG’s Copper, Sea to Summit’s Alto and Nemo’s Dagger OSMO.
I needed/wanted a 3p with a square floor because we also hike with a 25lb corgi.
Nemo Dagger OSMO 3 p and options (stakes and extra vestibule) made it the best deal for light weight… ish, and livability.
Nemo for our win ❤
I use my Dragonfly as a one person tent (usually) and it is indeed a palace for one!
What a super awesome video Devin.
Excellent video, great comparison! I was all set to buy a full backpack setup this spring but life got in the way, beginning of April I was sitting at a red light and was rearended by a dump truck doing about 40mph.. Needless to say a lot of things got put on hold. Hopefully someday...hoping to get a dagger 3p and go from there. Thanks for the content. Subscribed! 👍
Hope you mend 100% and get to fulfill that desire.
The NEMO Dagger option is a little better for two!
heavy for my back....GREAT vid
My girlfriend and I tried the Dagger OSMO 2P. We felt it was a little tight with two 25" wide sleeping pads. We exchanged it for the REI Half Dome SL 2 Plus, and we found the extra 4" in width and more vertical walls in the head and foot ends was a better fit for us. The OSMO fabric is really amazing and I wish the Half Dome had something similar or came with a silpoly rain fly. I think the Durston X-Mid 2P would probably be my next choice if I had to do it again given my geological location. Side note, I purchased one of your Dark Sky packs and am looking forward to testing it out on a trip to Banff coming up. Cheers!
When it really comes down to it, a 3 person sized tent will always be more comfy for 2 people. If you're splitting the weight anyway, it's a good way to maximize living space. I wasn't aware the Half Dome SL Plus had that amount of space. That's great!
Enjoy the DARK SKY! Love that little pack!
@@BackcountryExposureThe Half Dome has just that little bit of extra space on the sides so your sleeping pads are not rubbing against the bathtub floor and the pole structure allows the inner tent walls to be more vertical in the corners. The weight between both tents is roughly the same and the Half Dome is a little more durable. I swapped the stuff sack that came with the stock Half Dome for a Sea to Summit 8L dry bag to efficiently pack away the tent. I love nerding out about gear choices.
Just got back using REI Half dome 3+ For me and the wife. Was ok. But the latest Half dome vestibules are too small to fit a 65l pack unless you put pack in middle of space, if I understand REI reduced the size of the vestibule. So I might return it
That dagger is so nice. So much space.
Had to rewatch this video after the recommendation of the dragonfly 3p variant
Loved this comparison! If you have the gear a side x side x side comparison of the hornet, dragonfly and dagger would be awesome.
I do not have a 2P hornet, but will keep this in mind. A few have already mentioned a Dragonfly / Hornet comparison. Thanks!
I’m looking at returning the dagger 2p for the dragonfly 3p for a few reasons. I think the extra space would be nice as I’m camping with my GF. The overhead pocket is nonexistent on the dagger. Looks like it may fit an iPad on the dragonfly but it also might be a bigger pocket on the 2p vs the 3p. It’s a larger tent that’s also a hair lighter.
The gear lofts are way better in the dragonfly. The dagger 2p I have has no such pockets. I’m returning it for the dragonfly 3p.
Wonderful video!!!
Awesome breakdown would love a dragonfly vs hornet in future
Thanks! I agree that would be a nice comparison. If I can get my hands on a 2 person version of the Hornet to compare, I'll for sure do it. I currently only have the 1 person Hornet. :)
I highly recommend double mats in all tents, especially with kids or someone who tosses and turns. You won't wake up under their mat and they usually fit perfectly in the tapered Nemo 2P tents.
I have a dagger 2p and 3p. They are awesome tents. The 2p is a perfect size for solo and a dog.
Agreed!
Do you think the Dagger 2P would be overkill for just one person?
@@jmax850 in a lot of cases yeah it would be. It’s a pretty big footprint for a solo tent. I’d opt for the Dragonfly as a better solo option.
Do you think the Dagger 3p would be useable solo on a short trip? I'm looking at camping mostly with 2 others, but may do some solos as well... sadly, 2 tents is not in budget right now.
@@nekoindi it’ll definitely work, you’ll just have a lot of extra space inside. But would be totally fine.
Great video! If you have the footprint, are you able to pitch the Dagger/Dragonfly fly first with the Jake's feet system?
Very well in your presentation 👏.
My dilemma is between the Dragonfly 2p tent and the Dragonfly bikepack 1p tent.
I am only needing a 1p tent for my solo recumbent trike touring.
Packability is vitally important to save space and weight.
Im leaning towards the Dragonfly bikepack 1p tent because of my needs.
However, a little more room would be nice to bring in my panniers at night.
However when trying to save as much packability space and weight as possible.
Perhaps I should compromise on the comfy extra room.
Your opinion is welcomed.
great vid thanx
Great video 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thanks 👍
Darn! These both seem to be 3-Season tents. I need a 4-Season.
so on the dagger, if you place a Backpack in the Tub thing, it can get wet due to not enough space between it and the outside wall?
they include the landing zone with the bikepack version of the dragonfly. Dunno why they don't inlcude it with this version, and it doesn't seem like you can buy it as an accessory either.
Do you prefer the dagger 2 or copper spur 2? I'm getting ready to buy a tent and can't decide between the two.
Same here did you make a decision?
For solo trips, I’d go with the Dragonfly 1. Do you think the Dragonfly 2 is acceptable for myself and my 7 year old boy?
It’s enough 😂
Still using the original Dagger 2p. Couldn’t be happier with it. Has the Osmo gotten heavier?
I am not totally sure. Would have to go back and compare models.
How do you think the Nemo dragonfly 2P hold up to the rainy summer Alaska weather? Haven’t bought a tent in many years. TIA
I’m sure it’ll do great. The Osmo fabric is awesome. I don’t live in a rainy place though, so I can’t speak to personal experience with a lot of rain. Just Utah rain.
On the dagger is it only a single landing zone or is there one for each side?
It has just one Landing Zone.
Outer first pitch, or defective inner first pitch?
I am 95% a solo camper and 5% duo. You said that 2 x 25inch pad is tight, is it still usable? If so, Ill go with it
Yes tight, but can make it happen.
Ummm did I catch a glimpse of the new nemo pad!?!?! Your holding out!
Tensor All-Season! Getting testing in before I share too much.
@BackcountryExposure are you able to share when it will release?
@@ddff5242 not sure yet.
@@BackcountryExposure last q! Are you going to be able to test the 8.3 r value version? Think it's called extreme maybe?
@@ddff5242 possibly. Only so many samples available, and the All-Season was more practical to be testing right now.
Which guy lines have you attached?
Just the lines included with the tent.
I always have to buy huge tents. I’m tall and I won’t leave my bag outdoors. I don’t care if I know I’m the only person within 50 miles.. I’m always paranoid it will get taken then I die lol.
I need to find a solid big two person that fits me and my 50l pack and can’t keep us both dry. Also.. I need to be able to fit it on that pack. 😮
Is that a new NEMO pad? I have not seen a silver one.
Yes, it’s the new Tensor All-Season. It’s getting released in October.
@@BackcountryExposure Sweet! Now I sit and excitedly wait for your review.
2 stakes for each vestibule on the dagger? I really hate this setup as it's hard to get the fly taught on uneven ground. And in hard ground, that's 2 more guys and rock piles I have to deal with. I'd say the dragnfly's 1 stake in the vestibule is superior.
The Dragonfly does have two stake out points, so it would still be an issue in that regard. At least the stake out points are adjustable, which is not always an option on fly sheets. The Hornet in this case would be the better option.
@@BackcountryExposure Oh, yup, you are correct. Yuck! That's really a shame that Nemo went with this design. This makes a freestanding tent, less freestanding as the # of required stakes just went up.
What is the orange pad at 2:44?
That would be a short length Nemo Tensor sleeping pad. They don't seem to make that length anymore though.
You got a new camera, eh?
Sure did!
What's up with that silver Nemo sleeping pad.
Ha! It's actually a new pad being released soonish from Nemo. The Tensor All-Season.
@@BackcountryExposure Thank you. Looks thick and comfortable.
Maybe Refrain From The Tick and Cross ...you might have Got more Views.... as I was convinced you were Lambasting the Dragonfly !
Question Marks ? .~. ? Would have been Better mire Appropriate ti the Debate ...Saying that demo vid was Good 👍
So, the Dragonfly is a shitty CopperSpur. The Dagger is even heavier and still cramped for two people. If you’re by yourself, get a Copperspur 2p. If you’re going with a partner, get a Copperspur 3p and split the tent and fly between yourselves to split the weight and have ample room, and the the only thing that nemo is still good at is their Tensor pad 😂😂
Not sure I'd call it a shitty Copper Spur. The Dragonfly is impressive, and I'll take the weight penalty for the better fabric. :)
someone sounds salty or just a big agnes fanboy
10 minutes in.... Your argument of having to unlatch the weather tub from the door to open it and leaving all the stuff open to the weather...... I mean just saying if you are opening the door you are literally opening the whole thing to the weather so obviously you won't be doing such things in the rain..... If the weather is good enough to open the vestibule all the way then why would you have to worry about the gear tub being opened to the weather 😅 just kinda seems like you are overthinking that part....