Feels quite sad watching the appeal for Dinah McNicol knowing what we know now, almost certainly dead when this aired but still appealing to her directly in the hope she'd just gone missing. Very sad.
The scumbag Peter Tobin. What terrible luck on her part to run into that murdering shitbag that day. Her disappearance was a mystery for about 16 years, poor girl.
The May 1992 edition has 2 of my favourite CWUK moments - the reaction of Keith Chegwin lookalike when John Shippey slaps his face in a friendly manner, and in the Leeds shooting when Dave says "Bloody Close!"
Dinah McNicol reconstruction really is so well done the fact her real loved ones and teacher are in it shows me how much she was loved , i am shocked also she fell into tobbin's trap she was a smart girl shows me how evil and twisted peter tobbin really is the man is the boogy man he is the monster
The actor who played the witness who heard the loud bang when John Shipley’s car blew up, is it the same actor who played Ricky Haywood, a murder victim in a previous episode? Watched too many of these on repeat
He was a fraudster & a philanderer-the guy in the pub said he had no idea who would want to do him any harm, well it could have been one of the criminals he was mixed up with, an angry husband or as it turned out the son of one of the women he was shagging that he also owed money to.
I hope the following link works, as it may prove informative: books.google.co.uk/books?id=CcSIDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT96&lpg=PT96&dq=john+shippey+death&source=bl&ots=Vd9T6v91Rj&sig=ACfU3U05JpC5aMBFJ1UUrIe4QOijdVa1wQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHi52Kz5PjAhXMQEEAHQw4B0EQ6AEwCXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20shippey%20death&f=false
I'm often surprised about how often Surrey pops up on Crimewatch. One thinks of it as one of the more genteel English counties, but it does feature quite often on these episodes.
Croydon is technically part of Surrey and it and the surrounding areas, including south London and spilling over into Surrey, had major crime problems in the 80s and 90s. Croydon's nickname was "The Cronx". A play on words of The Bronx. The Daniel Morgan Murder brought to light an area absolutely rife with organised crime and police corruption. A number of paedophile rings were also known to operate in the area, including the one behind the disappearance of Lee Boxell, together with the Sidney Cooke gang who had a base there. The notorious Shirley Oaks children's home was also nearby and had been infiltrated by paedophile rings since at least the 1950s. The notorious sadistic paedophile murderer, Brian Field, committed at least one murder of a teenage boy in the 1960s in Surrey and is suspected of others.
Interesting to see Croydon mentioned again. That area where south London spilled over into Surrey had very serious problems in the 80s and 90s. The Daniel Morgan Murder enquiry shone a light on serious organised crime and the most appalling police corruption in that wider area. In addition, several paedophile rings were known to operate in the area. The notorious Shirley Oaks children's home has been infiltrated by paedophiles since the 1950s. The infamous Sidney Cooke gang was also known to operate in the area and in addition, yet another local Surrey paedophile ring is widely believed to be responsible for the disappearance of Lee Boxell. The sadistic paedophile murderer Brian Field murdered at least one teenage boy in Surrey in the 1960s and is suspected of others. Of course, there was also the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence in South London too. Croydon gained the nickname "The Cronx" back then - a play on words with The Bronx.
Yes, on 23/4/1968,..he strangled and murdered 14 year old Roy Tutill. There is a documentary on this evil crime on You Tube. Very likely he coaxed 13yo Ddavid Spencer and Patrick Warren into his car on Boxing Day, 1996 in Chelmsley Wood, B'ham. They went missing, Field was living in nearby Solihull at that time. And in 1984, Mark Billington went missing from his Yardley home; he was discovered several miles away hanging from a tree, nine weeks later. Field lived nearby.
There was the racist murd of terry Gregory also,by poc George Edwin,who was acquitted after 2 trials,even though he had the knife with terrys blood on it ,which he had used 9 times on terry,Terry’s brother Billy got murd by a Vietnamese man
@@lennylaa1686 The police questioned Brian Field when Roy was murdered, but had no proof to convict him. In 2001 DNA gave them the evidence they needed. Too late for his parents.
@@Dave-ko2pr Stephen Lawrence has been mentioned over 2000 times in parliament by over 500 mps ,nobody has ever mentioned terry,he got murdered in Woolwich
I find it odd she went to the festival alone was meeting up with people then going to different towns she was streetwise ....tobbin must have over powered her ....
Probably bullied into changing his accent by the upper class people who run the BBC - its very hard to get on with a working class South Eastern English accent. Other regions as long as its not too extreme you can still get on. Hatcher already said gar- arge instead of gar- idge like most people with his accent would probably how he became a superintendant. Sue and Nick with their private school accepts probably ridiculed him over mustosh.
Just a thought, if the uploader changes the upload order, possibly to Date published (oldest) setting then the playlist would play the uploads in the correct order rather than the update prior to the original broadcast etc. Cheers
Yeah, it's almost impossible to hide the season, especially when there's lots of trees around. The Dr Who xmas special was usually filmed when it was about 30 degrees lol.
Any chance finding an episode from 2005/2006. It's a strange one. Guy in medical uniform inside woman and child house. He makes no attempt to attack her with blade? He is menacing and slowly follows her outside when she escapes. People don't believe it's real.
That first one was definitely a business deal gone wrong, or he got into something bad. shame when it's a crime against someone well liked, makes it much harder to watch. That Dinah case i remember really well and i remember the reconstruction too, Peter Tobin one creepy man
The John Shippey case was solved ages ago. He was about to be arrested for serious fraud. He was basically living parallel lives with various girlfriends, and mixing with other fraudsters. He led his life with money he'd stolen from his business.
Anymore info on John Shippey ? Was the girlfriend implicated at all ? A man who lived his life in a thousand compartments according to the pub landlord. Also when they say his local was the Cricketers did they mean the Mitcham Cricketers ?
@ Wouldn't worry about it too much-the recently departed Bob Woffinden thought everybody was innocent. In the same book where he argues for Watson's innocence he makes another plea for a guy who recently was the subject of a two part BBC show -here a miscarriage of justice lady & her team reexamine evidence-he did everything to block them when they wanted to do tests that would prove either his innocence or his guilt & made himself look guiltier than ever.
silva geko silva geko well unless we have the reconstruction filming schedule, and the time and date it took place, and the death certificate of the person concerned, I’m not sure how we can say for certain he was dead at the time and that it is definitely an actor. I didn’t say it was definitely him anyway, just that it could be. Check out the history of Crimewatch; plenty of people involved in the real events took part in the reconstructions.
Rex Banner Read what I typed. I didn’t say it was the same bloke, merely that it could be. Have you seen the video? If that’s a lookalike it’s a very good one, that’s all I’m saying. The fact is, whilst admittedly Crimewatch did use actors for the majority of their reconstructions, there were occasions they would also use the people (victims and witnesses) caught up in the crimes. Unless someone can name the actor in question, I’m not sure how anyone can say with absolutely certainty if it’s an actor or not.
@@janettemohan5056 I dont want to be disrespectful to David Tremlett, just read the article, but why and how the fuck did he never come forward to say he was also in the car with Dina? Dinas disappearance appeal was nationwide, not just on Crimewatch, on other tv shows/radio/national newspapers. Peter Tobins face had also been used on crimewatch before due to sexual assaults he had commited. And David only came forward when her body was found? I'm sorry but that don't sit right with me.
@@BillyChalk98 not really surprising for the time if he was homeless or a traveller. No internet. If the police had no contact details he may have had no idea.
@billy chalk I would *NEVER* under any circumstances, cooperate with -corporations- organisations, which could lead to a possibility of myself being framed/targeted/misrepresented owing to my involvement with them. Police are nothing but a public liability, and are specifically there to enFORCE the will of _another_ -corporation- - sorry - ""govern-ment"", that are "there for your own good, remember?" One, tiny human error over the course of centuries, should be ALL that it took, in order to consign police as "legitimate", to obsolescence. Yet, they are *STILL* here, portraying themselves as "proper" and "the right thing to do." In short, they are corrupt, unlawful, and a fraud. And they don't like the people they are coercing money away from, following the very example *that they wilfully choose to push on to people,* back on to them. They are firmly NOT WELCOME as part of a harmonious civilization.
@@BillyChalk98plenty of people didn't watch much TV or read newspapers. If he was a regular festival goer, it is likely he would be out of touch with all of that. Him not coming forward was hardly unusual. There were many similar cases where people only came forward a long time afterwards. It wasn't like today when you get everything on your phone. There's nothing weird about it at all.
Yup... He gave a lift to them both and continued to drive on with her. He was living nearby in Margate at the time and buried her in his garden there, along with the cut in half body of the girl from Edinburgh he transported all the way down South.
Interstat The other girl was called Vicky Hamilton and she was from Falkirk. I live about half an hour away from the church where he murdered the Polish student, Angelika Kluk in 2006, and remember it being plastered all over the national newspaper and on the news. The reporters were saying they were looking for 'Pat McLaughlin' (a name he was using back then) and Tobin's picture came up on screen. That's when it all started to come out and eventually unravelled to what we know about him now.
She was good I thought, Jill Dando too, Fiona Bruce was always very calm and upbeat too, Kirsty Young was the one who always looked like she was shaking with rage....
@@lw3646 I found Kirsty Young’s constant accusatory stance very irritating. In addition, there was all of that strutting about between those ridiculous Perspex screens with the sheaf of papers and pen which she never seemed to use. The constant stating of the obvious and the over-repetitive, “you know what to do”, “do the right thing”, “call the number on the screen now” etc. was very tiresome.
The night wouldn’t be the same at the moment without a bit of Crimewatch Keep up the good work! Looking for December episode 1995
December 1995? I'll have a look for it.
Andy JS thanks It would be very much appreciated
Why December 1995 it’s only may 1992 u on 1995 ep lol
I was on that episode too
0:28:26...watching the reconstruction, knowing what happened to Dinah McNicol, is heartbreaking
❤❤.
Feels quite sad watching the appeal for Dinah McNicol knowing what we know now, almost certainly dead when this aired but still appealing to her directly in the hope she'd just gone missing. Very sad.
poor dinah. she was buried at irvine drive alongside vicky hamilton. RIP, vicky and dinah.
The scumbag Peter Tobin. What terrible luck on her part to run into that murdering shitbag that day. Her disappearance was a mystery for about 16 years, poor girl.
Tobin is in hell now
Who was Vicky?
vicky hamilton.@@jennynott3841
@@jennynott3841another girl he killed.
Thanks again RedCard74! Evening everyone!
You the man, Bro, keep it up, excellent uploads as always.......
Welcome back Redcard, will be watching this tomorrow. Thanks.
I wonder if the man who was compiling a video of the spate of abandonded cars has uploaded it to youtube
Wonder if he had something to do with them
in the presence of evil anyone can get lost, rip Dinah.
Well said 👏
Dinah's teacher and her friend both seemed like lovely people. Makes you all the more angry at what happened.
The May 1992 edition has 2 of my favourite CWUK moments - the reaction of Keith Chegwin lookalike when John Shippey slaps his face in a friendly manner, and in the Leeds shooting when Dave says "Bloody Close!"
futureisgosub “John was a very... outgoing mean...”
Translation:
Bloody nightmare...
Top man Redcard74. Keep them coming. 👍🏻
Dinah McNicol reconstruction really is so well done the fact her real loved ones and teacher are in it shows me how much she was loved , i am shocked also she fell into tobbin's trap she was a smart girl shows me how evil and twisted peter tobbin really is the man is the boogy man he is the monster
Shut up dolly.
@@nathaniliescu4597 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@trishg151 oh god not you again. Hell.
@@nathaniliescu4597 I think I should be saying that to you! I See that your still being rude to people for no apparent reason 🤣
@@trishg151 correction - her constant blathering on every vid and her stupid doll picture is more than enough...
A thousand thank yous dear boy !!
Have a large brandy old chap !!
I remember seeing Dina's photo on the Soul Asylum UK Video "Runaway Train"
That's stuck in my mind to. I wonder how many of those pictures were ever solved
The strange thing is Vicky Hamilton's photo was in that video & she was also killed by Tobin.
@@tristanmorgan852 On Runaway Train I think that they accidentally uncovered a serial killer
@@pusscat1147 yes you're right I wonder what we will find out in the future about murderers that are active right now scary to think
That's the saddest music video of all time 💔
Jacqui Hames was ridiculously perfect at this time. Super beautiful, perfect elocution and manners.....
Back when crime watch meant lock the doors with the master keys when ross said don't have nightmares
The actor who played the witness who heard the loud bang when John Shipley’s car blew up, is it the same actor who played Ricky Haywood, a murder victim in a previous episode? Watched too many of these on repeat
His face rang a bell
Great spot there
Nice one Neil! I usually pride myself on spotting things like this (repeat watcher here too!) but I completely missed this one. 👍
I had nightmares. I did not sleep well.
😵
😅
Serves you right for listening to Saint Nick.
John shippey was a bit of a lad wasn't he!
He was a fraudster & a philanderer-the guy in the pub said he had no idea who would want to do him any harm, well it could have been one of the criminals he was mixed up with, an angry husband or as it turned out the son of one of the women he was shagging that he also owed money to.
@@Hi-kq1vi mad isn't it how people can portray themselves and lead double lives
I hope the following link works, as it may prove informative:
books.google.co.uk/books?id=CcSIDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT96&lpg=PT96&dq=john+shippey+death&source=bl&ots=Vd9T6v91Rj&sig=ACfU3U05JpC5aMBFJ1UUrIe4QOijdVa1wQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHi52Kz5PjAhXMQEEAHQw4B0EQ6AEwCXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20shippey%20death&f=false
@@Hi-kq1vi you put it so eloquently 😂😂😂
@@Hi-kq1vi Many of his so-called girlfriends and mates probably only liked the money (that wasn't his) he splashed around.
27:26 - didn't think ex england cricket captain Alastair Cook robbed post offices before his pro career? :)
I'm often surprised about how often Surrey pops up on Crimewatch. One thinks of it as one of the more genteel English counties, but it does feature quite often on these episodes.
Croydon is technically part of Surrey and it and the surrounding areas, including south London and spilling over into Surrey, had major crime problems in the 80s and 90s. Croydon's nickname was "The Cronx". A play on words of The Bronx. The Daniel Morgan Murder brought to light an area absolutely rife with organised crime and police corruption. A number of paedophile rings were also known to operate in the area, including the one behind the disappearance of Lee Boxell, together with the Sidney Cooke gang who had a base there. The notorious Shirley Oaks children's home was also nearby and had been infiltrated by paedophile rings since at least the 1950s. The notorious sadistic paedophile murderer, Brian Field, committed at least one murder of a teenage boy in the 1960s in Surrey and is suspected of others.
Not as often as Liverpool .......
@@treasurehunteruk9718armed blags there though, chronic.
@@treasurehunteruk9718Or Bristol!
Interesting to see Croydon mentioned again. That area where south London spilled over into Surrey had very serious problems in the 80s and 90s. The Daniel Morgan Murder enquiry shone a light on serious organised crime and the most appalling police corruption in that wider area. In addition, several paedophile rings were known to operate in the area. The notorious Shirley Oaks children's home has been infiltrated by paedophiles since the 1950s. The infamous Sidney Cooke gang was also known to operate in the area and in addition, yet another local Surrey paedophile ring is widely believed to be responsible for the disappearance of Lee Boxell. The sadistic paedophile murderer Brian Field murdered at least one teenage boy in Surrey in the 1960s and is suspected of others. Of course, there was also the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence in South London too. Croydon gained the nickname "The Cronx" back then - a play on words with The Bronx.
Yes, on 23/4/1968,..he strangled and murdered 14 year old
Roy Tutill. There is a documentary on this evil crime on You Tube.
Very likely he coaxed 13yo Ddavid Spencer and Patrick Warren
into his car on Boxing Day, 1996 in Chelmsley Wood, B'ham.
They went missing, Field was living in nearby Solihull at that
time.
And in 1984, Mark Billington went missing from his Yardley
home; he was discovered several miles away hanging from a tree, nine weeks later. Field lived nearby.
There was the racist murd of terry Gregory also,by poc George Edwin,who was acquitted after 2 trials,even though he had the knife with terrys blood on it ,which he had used 9 times on terry,Terry’s brother Billy got murd by a Vietnamese man
@@lennylaa1686 The police questioned Brian Field when Roy was murdered, but had no proof to convict him. In 2001 DNA gave them the evidence they needed. Too late for his parents.
Stephen Lawrence’s murder happened in Eltham, that’s further into south east London than Croydon.
@@Dave-ko2pr Stephen Lawrence has been mentioned over 2000 times in parliament by over 500 mps ,nobody has ever mentioned terry,he got murdered in Woolwich
At 1:35 why do they mention the money missing from the business. Was this Due to Shippey ?
He was under investigation for it but hadn't been convicted.
He was about to be arrested for it. There's a lot of info on the case online.
The silver Orion they show in the pictures after the reconstruction is a different model from the one in the reconstruction
23:23 i think he accidentally shot her. he had a bullet up the spout and an itchy trigger finger. unnecessary and unwanted. a novice criminal.
Anyone know if the Leeds Pub Shooting was solved?
I find it odd she went to the festival alone was meeting up with people then going to different towns she was streetwise ....tobbin must have over powered her ....
You must watch TH-cam all day, every day. I see your comments on loads of videos.
The guy with Dihah called into Crimewatch to rule himself out. I believe it's on the next episode. A further reconstruction was made.
Correct
18:31 The love child of vyvyan and rik from the young ones
😂😂😂😂😂
Dave doesn't say mustosh anymore
Probably bullied into changing his accent by the upper class people who run the BBC - its very hard to get on with a working class South Eastern English accent. Other regions as long as its not too extreme you can still get on. Hatcher already said gar- arge instead of gar- idge like most people with his accent would probably how he became a superintendant. Sue and Nick with their private school accepts probably ridiculed him over mustosh.
Hatchet Job.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
no shops? they were leaning against the wall of one ffs. i hope they got away with it if thats the best that witness can do. @17:00
Thank you redcard74 and evening everyone.
poor john shippey
Was his case e we solved?
Nice one for uploading!
This episode features the first full length reconstruction about Dinah McNichol of course peter tobbin was her evil killer .
I’ve met Tobin, really horrible thing he is
@@Crimetvuk wow, where did you meet him?
25:34
“Just before midnight Barry and his fiancé left an Indian restaurant.”
First Indian restaurant I’ve come across called the Golden Oriental.
I wonder if people had warned Dinah about hitchhiking - it was notoriously dangerous even then. Her teacher said he knew she hitchhiked a lot.
The man who shot her is a sociopath and doesn't care about her family. They feel good when they cause pain.
Think the next one has also been uploaded for a few years. The bizarre one with the white goods lorry hijack
Where did crimewatch find lookalike people for all the reconstructions they did? 🤔
Must have used agencies. Must be a few of these with lots of people looking for the odd acting role or extra.
The Woodentops Useless Actors Agency.
Some of the photo fits were terrible. it's amazing if helped anyone find the crims.
It often looked as if they had been done by infants.
Just a thought, if the uploader changes the upload order, possibly to Date published (oldest) setting then the playlist would play the uploads in the correct order rather than the update prior to the original broadcast etc. Cheers
12.36 big shout out to my home town of Yeadon....
6/10ths of a mile away! 😂
16:10 Very subtle, lads 😆
probably just bad acting.
John Shippey defrauding his employers of thousands of pounds, but they say he had no enemies..lol
Love to watch the old Docs 😳 better era 😷 nostalgia 😟
Evil Peter Tobin
12:50 that interest rate!
HI RED CARD 74 CAN PLEASE HAVE AN UPLOAD OF A CRIMEWATCH EPISODES FROM THE 1990 S MATE
The reconstruction of Dina was set in August, but you can see it was clearly filmed in the winter time. Just an observation
Yeah, it's almost impossible to hide the season, especially when there's lots of trees around. The Dr Who xmas special was usually filmed when it was about 30 degrees lol.
Travellers rest is still there
As I follow this download the sick to bin is taken to a Edinburgh hospital after falling Ill. Imagine he's still alive. Poor girls that he murdered.
Does anyone know if they ever caught John shippey killers
Yes, it was the son of his girlfriend.
@johnclegg4993 what was his reason?
@@johnclegg4993 what
@@stephenholmes1036 He sold her house without her knowing!
So Tobin forced the PIN number out of Dinah before doing her over!
I suppose it's possible she had it written down. A lot of people used to do that.
poor dinah. she should have been more streetwise. hitchhiking is never safe. there are to many nutters out there.
The guy she was with should never have let her stay in that vehicle with Tobin as well. Her photos always remind me of Shannen Doherty
@@Hi-kq1vi his name was david tremlett. i wish he could have got dinah to go to his home where she would have been safe.
Any chance finding an episode from 2005/2006. It's a strange one. Guy in medical uniform inside woman and child house. He makes no attempt to attack her with blade? He is menacing and slowly follows her outside when she escapes. People don't believe it's real.
Thanks for sharing 👍
That first one was definitely a business deal gone wrong, or he got into something bad. shame when it's a crime against someone well liked, makes it much harder to watch. That Dinah case i remember really well and i remember the reconstruction too, Peter Tobin one creepy man
The John Shippey case was solved ages ago. He was about to be arrested for serious fraud. He was basically living parallel lives with various girlfriends, and mixing with other fraudsters. He led his life with money he'd stolen from his business.
Anymore info on John Shippey ?
Was the girlfriend implicated at all ?
A man who lived his life in a thousand compartments according to the pub landlord. Also when they say his local was the Cricketers did they mean the Mitcham Cricketers ?
His girlfriend's son was convicted of his murder in 1993 though it sounds as if that conviction isn't the safest
The Cricketers looks like the one on Addiscombe Road near East Croydon station.
@@EurythmicsObsession Nice one 👍
This one already in TH-cam, good upload though thanks red card
So many businesses nust have breathed a sigh of relief when people started to prefer using card payments over cash.
16:55 Gavin Richards?
1992 Leeds, title winners. Day before that awful shooting, they drew 1-1 at Arsenal on their way to the old Division one title. (ITV The Big Match)
Did they ever find John Shippey’s killer?
insidetime.org/bob-woffinden-writes-16/
Thank me later even though I have serious doubts over the safety of that man's conviction.
Anthony Mcken Thank u Anthony. Yes it seems very off this one with a lack of hard evidence
Anthony Mcken Definitely
@ Wouldn't worry about it too much-the recently departed Bob Woffinden thought everybody was innocent. In the same book where he argues for Watson's innocence he makes another plea for a guy who recently was the subject of a two part BBC show -here a miscarriage of justice lady & her team reexamine evidence-he did everything to block them when they wanted to do tests that would prove either his innocence or his guilt & made himself look guiltier than ever.
As one Dave and Marion to another (Marion being my wife's name), the Leeds reconstruction struck a nerve. All so unnecessary...
The actor playing John shippy looks just like him
I’m not sure it is an actor. Sometimes they use the real people involved.
silva geko silva geko well unless we have the reconstruction filming schedule, and the time and date it took place, and the death certificate of the person concerned, I’m not sure how we can say for certain he was dead at the time and that it is definitely an actor. I didn’t say it was definitely him anyway, just that it could be.
Check out the history of Crimewatch; plenty of people involved in the real events took part in the reconstructions.
@@jameslittler4151 you can not be serious? Your logic is truly baffling
Rex Banner Read what I typed. I didn’t say it was the same bloke, merely that it could be. Have you seen the video? If that’s a lookalike it’s a very good one, that’s all I’m saying. The fact is, whilst admittedly Crimewatch did use actors for the majority of their reconstructions, there were occasions they would also use the people (victims and witnesses) caught up in the crimes. Unless someone can name the actor in question, I’m not sure how anyone can say with absolutely certainty if it’s an actor or not.
@@jimborobbo8733 he was dead you loony
Why the hell was she carrying that amount of money
exactly - in those days it would have been a pass book
It's like Penny Bell, with the eight and a half thousand in cash in her car.
I was at the Torpedo Festival, Liphook and I was off my face on Red Leb for the entire time I was there. 😻
Crimewatch and chill! Evening again, gang and thanks to RC74... who must have some hidden connection with Andy!
I think we need to get Nick Ross and Sue Cook on the case!!
@@redcard7475 I've reported it anonymously to Crimestoppers.
(Nick Ross voice) Did you see them together? If so please call in
Dinah was four feet, ten inches. Tiny.
How would they know they r 25 years of age the pub robbers.....???????
It's a guess, but a reasonable one. Crime is overwhelmingly carried out by the young, and that kind of crime in particular is hardly an old man's game
the man dinah was with was called david tremlett. i agree, he said he felt weird leaving dinah alone in the car.
@@janettemohan5056 I dont want to be disrespectful to David Tremlett, just read the article, but why and how the fuck did he never come forward to say he was also in the car with Dina?
Dinas disappearance appeal was nationwide, not just on Crimewatch, on other tv shows/radio/national newspapers.
Peter Tobins face had also been used on crimewatch before due to sexual assaults he had commited. And David only came forward when her body was found?
I'm sorry but that don't sit right with me.
@@BillyChalk98 not really surprising for the time if he was homeless or a traveller. No internet. If the police had no contact details he may have had no idea.
@billy chalk
I would *NEVER* under any circumstances, cooperate with -corporations- organisations, which could lead to a possibility of myself being framed/targeted/misrepresented owing to my involvement with them.
Police are nothing but a public liability, and are specifically there to enFORCE the will of _another_ -corporation- - sorry - ""govern-ment"", that are "there for your own good, remember?"
One, tiny human error over the course of centuries, should be ALL that it took, in order to consign police as "legitimate", to obsolescence.
Yet, they are *STILL* here, portraying themselves as "proper" and "the right thing to do."
In short, they are corrupt, unlawful, and a fraud.
And they don't like the people they are coercing money away from, following the very example *that they wilfully choose to push on to people,* back on to them.
They are firmly NOT WELCOME as part of a harmonious civilization.
@Taipan Tails "ok".
Well thanks alot.
@@BillyChalk98plenty of people didn't watch much TV or read newspapers. If he was a regular festival goer, it is likely he would be out of touch with all of that. Him not coming forward was hardly unusual. There were many similar cases where people only came forward a long time afterwards. It wasn't like today when you get everything on your phone. There's nothing weird about it at all.
just had to catch up again.!
Remember the shooting at the Travs!
Was it solved?
Early tonight RC
Great quality redcard74 .
26:50 Tom Brady.
18:31
Think this was probably his first and last acting gig
Tucker, Tate and Rolf ???
Usual suspects.
Six tenths of a mile away 😂
28.11 wtf.
Stepson killed mr John shippy
What was his reason?
John then bought himself a villa in Argentina and retired with the 3/4 0f a million £.
dinah mcnicol, evil tobin again
Yup... He gave a lift to them both and continued to drive on with her. He was living nearby in Margate at the time and buried her in his garden there, along with the cut in half body of the girl from Edinburgh he transported all the way down South.
@@interstat2222 Very close to where I live-I can remember the choppers flying over in 2007-it was quite surreal.
Yep. What an evil bastard.
i remember it all over the news back in 2007, at least the evil piece of shit will die in prison
Interstat The other girl was called Vicky Hamilton and she was from Falkirk. I live about half an hour away from the church where he murdered the Polish student, Angelika Kluk in 2006, and remember it being plastered all over the national newspaper and on the news. The reporters were saying they were looking for 'Pat McLaughlin' (a name he was using back then) and Tobin's picture came up on screen. That's when it all started to come out and eventually unravelled to what we know about him now.
Gosh sue Cook the ice maiden of crime watch...no empathy,no emotion ... ice maiden
Just as it should be. She is not there to be a counsellor.
She was good I thought, Jill Dando too, Fiona Bruce was always very calm and upbeat too, Kirsty Young was the one who always looked like she was shaking with rage....
@@lw3646 I found Kirsty Young’s constant accusatory stance very irritating. In addition, there was all of that strutting about between those ridiculous Perspex screens with the sheaf of papers and pen which she never seemed to use. The constant stating of the obvious and the over-repetitive, “you know what to do”, “do the right thing”, “call the number on the screen now” etc. was very tiresome.
27:29 @yammybtv
6:06 "They both DELIBERATELY turned away, so I *_really_* only had a look at the back of their heads." 🏌️🏌️ 🤣