Looks spot on! And it's a game changer. With triples I hardly use the look left/right unless leaving the garage on rFactor2 (since they have collisions active). Ordered a DD1 wheel, upgrading from CSW 2.5 let's see if that adds even more immersion.
Even though I love the immersion, I have not used VR in over a year. The biggest reason is that I do not like being out of my physical environment. Since I added a Fanatec Formula V2.5 and a button box, I cannot see myself going back to VR again soon. I have been using triple monitors since 2014 and they are a necessity, in my opinion.
I made the jump from 2.5 to DD2 and it is a great upgrade. Only run up to the 402 driver cos if you do really love RF2 the newer drivers break the FFB for that sim. It was doing my head in till I rolled back.
@@edteach3r but be "out of the environment " is "in the car" and THE MAIN reason for using VR i guess. After 1 minute under the headset i forget about the sourroundings and sitting in the car . The real 3d depth image is a high advantage in simracing....
@@edteach3r I think using vr is annoying, uncomfortable, finnicky. Plus expensive. Still, the experience is superior unless you spend even more on a full setup.
Congrats Mike! I raced exclusively in VR for 4 years, but got triple 32" back in September and haven't felt the desire for VR since. Wasn't even difficult to adjust due to accurate FOV settings, which was easy with the various FOV calculators available. Love the comfort and still plenty of immersion. Have also been able to use an old smartphone and tablet for secondary dash and telemetry data , which has been great. And finally, triples allow me to enjoy titles that aren't VR compatible or don't run well in VR (like ACC).
I have both triples and VR but always go to VR when possible. The added perception of depth helps me dramatically, especially in rally. I run so much better in VR on DR 2.0 than I am capable of running in WRC 10 on triples. But I don't have to worry about content creation. Are you still using the motion platform? I'm hoping for that to be my next upgrade some time in the near future.
Cool, Mike, but I tried this in a mall some months ago and a have to say the side monitors are basic for mirrors and you almost don't use them to drive, especially in very low FOV like you use. You know, it is nice, especially for watching, but I'll never spend money on this setup. I have a 34 ultrawide and considering changing for a 49 normal wide. VR is something else, I had one 2 years ago but too much sickness for me, sadly.
i've been considering replacing my VR setup with triples, but I feel like the right side monitor which is missing the depth feeling of the right side of a car which is flat away from where the monitor is like angled back wouldn't feel quit right. Comparitively the left side monitor which looks out your window makes sense as the angle of the car comes back at you the way the monitor does. Does that make sense? How do you feel that right side monitor actually represents the width of the car?
@@SimRacing604 Wait but isn't it _slightly_ misleading? Is the FOV not a fair bit lower on the centre screen than it would be on a regular single-monitor? So I get the point, but just as observation
I switched from triples to ultra-wide and also VR. Honestly, it was a MISTAKE. It didn't take me too long to regret it. The problem was, my monitors were only 60hz and I wanted to upgrade to something a bit better. For budget reasons, I only went up to 100hz on my ultra-wide. I could not have afforded to upgrade all three monitors (I was also upgrading my PC at around the same time). But, hindsight being what it is, I wish I had stuck with my triples. The sense of immersion is terrific and I actually prefer it even to VR, which has a narrower FOV and requires moving your head right and left often to look for cars that may be along side. IMHO, if you're torn between ultra-wide, VR or triples, go with triples, if you can afford the price, and have the room.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Well the Index isn't much higher but it is a perceivable improvement, even my old Pimax has a greater FoV than the Index which is the key reason I bought it.
I got myself a 49" CRG9 just over a year ago. I get most of the benefits you mention, although my view isn't quite as wide as yours but it's a lot easier to set up and run. Would probably have been cheaper to buy triples though :D
I ALMOST bought a 49” uw myself. Great monitor, but I couldn’t afford it with the specs I was looking for. But yeah, you’re right, it has pretty much all of the benefits of my triples
oddly,i went from triples to a 49,mainly for aesthetics in my room,essentially its equiv to two 27's.the lack of real estate is offset by using TrackIR on top,plus the performance increase on my system was noticable.the main thing i like is the lack of any bezels in the viewing area.
I am in the same boat. I love my 49 inch screen, but I do sometimes miss the sense of speed that tripples would have offered. An advantage of 49 is that the tax on the GPU is somewhat less than tripples. Another important point for discussion is the vertical screen space. That's why wide screen TV's are interesting as well, e.g. a 66 inch tv could be fun as well.
Lett me introduce you a way less than half the price more than 100% immersion: VR :) But it also has some minor disadvantages.For me the only thing was endurance races can be tough unles you dont have a good cooler setup.
Yes...VR and content creation makes for more difficulty. You feel like you have to take off the headset to reconnect with the audience but the footage is so much better...it's a trade-off.
For me I jumped from single (15.6" Laptop screen) to VR last year and man its perfect especially AMS2. Before the ACC 1.8, I would have ditched VR for triples just for the title but now since it had been improved I have not thought of triples.And all the other sims run great aswell, except iracing as I dont have that.
@@abeidiot yeah I think its a TAA thing, AMS2 is definitely sharp compared to ACC but I've messed with the settings to the point where its not blury anymore, I can see road, kerb and tire details, its tempting to get it shaper but then thats when I lose performance comepletely. Its always an issue of balancing Quality and FPS.
@@fabioguimaraes3455 instead of spending a fortune for just 1 game, could use half that money to spend on a better gpu and headset to get better resolution
That's a great setup Mike and triples is so much better than a single monitor. But when I switched from triples to VR there is no way I can go back. Nothing beats the immersion of VR :)
For every simracer out there: Triples are a must because of all the points you mentioned. I also went to triples a while ago and it definitely improved the fun, immersion and everything else. Was on 43” 4K single screen. Went to 3x27” 1080p. I wanted 3x32” 1440p but my GPU can’t run 1440p with good FPS so 1080p for me and it’s a little bit unsharp, I’m used to it but reading the little dashboard info’s of some cars are difficult. Ideal: 3x32” 1440p but 3x27” 1080p still OK. My budget only allowed just triples 27” 1080p and without GPU upgrade. RTX 2070 Super is my GPU. If I had 3090 then yeah bring it on triples 32” 1440p with everything on Epic. Now I run low/medium and very few high settings. And I can maintain above 60 FPS with 35 Grid. Only difficult when rain and dark like on Nurburgring on ACC. Race Begin it drops to 45-48 FPS, then when field gets sorted it climbs above 60 FPS.
Cool vid Mike! I’m obviously a VR fiend, but I can see why many prefer triples too. I did consider going that route before 2017 also. There are pluses and minuses to both(monitor clarity & peripheral vision, vs 3D spatial & depth perception etc), so whatever works for the user is a great choice!
I'm glad Mike mentioned his experiences at the end. For me, triples will always be vastly superior to VR. But, it depends if you run a manual shifter, button boxes, peripheral displays, etc. I can definitely see why some people like VR though, especially if you need to have a more compact, simplistic rig.
With the black screens you've sold it to me. I've been in between what I really want for a long time...49'' UW with a head tracker or triples (27'', of course the most preferable setup would be 55"+ triples, but that's at an insane budget with 144hz). I think the hassle of setting up triples is worth it having seen this video.
I have to agree. Seeing the triples from an angle really is not the way to demonstrate them. It's not how you see them when you're behind the wheel at all. Many of the videos about triples do the same thing (showing from an angle) and I just can't understand why.
VR driving without a motion sim chair is sickening. Triple monitors is the way to go unless you have a motion sim to translate G-forces to your brain through your butt. If you want to add a little more immersion to your triple setup you can always add TrackIR.
Same for me. Love the triple setup. Only it is very demanding. I have a 8700k cpu and a 1080ti gpu but when racing in triple 1440p I have to tone down the GFX to maintain 60fps.
I’ve been pretty lucky with my 6800 XT. The ~20% increase in pixels going from one 3440 x 1440 monitor to three 1920 x 1080 monitors didn’t really impact performance for me. I can still get 90 fps in most games with high settings, so that’s good enough for me
Hey Mike, thanks for this very interesting video. I am actually planning to move from a single 34" ultrawide 1440p to a triple 27" 1080p setup. I'd love to go triple 1440p but that might be too much workload for my 6800XT, Ryzen 5 3600x, 32GB. Are you missing some kind of graphics fidelity from your old 1440p vs. new 1080p or is it barely noticeable?
@@darrylcote9759 Haha, I did go for the triple 27" screens due to the lower space requirements. Triple 34" would have been too much for my room. But I did go for the higher 1440p resolutions and it's a blast to drive on these triples :-)
@@Starfac3 depends on the SIM and how much you want to crank up the settings. ACC 80-90 FPS with a mix of epic - medium settings. AMS2 100-120 FPS almost maxed out, without Supersampling. rF2 100-120 FPS with a mix of ultra - medium settings. I typically turn down shadows and reflections to a level that is acceptable, as you can gain a lot of FPS from these settings. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D AMD Radeon 6800XT 32 GB DDR4 3200 MHz 3x 27" 7680x1440 Resolution in total
Great video Mike. Thanks for sharing your perspective! I too love VR, but I find triples much more convenient but I do agree that they take up a lot of space, and are a pain to set up properly. When VR becomes a pair of glasses that are light, high res, and cheaper I'll revisit the technology .. and hope the "Metaverse" dies in the mean time...
Just got my triples. Hadn’t raced in about 2 months because of the Fanatec BF debacle and didn’t have a sim setup. In my first race with triples I podiumed. It’s night and day from single
You can also up your FOV like AC1 let's you put it so high you can see all 3 mirrors in a farly wide road car. Or you can map quick look or you could just play with a controller so you can accuss the right stick and look as you would IRL...
VR or nothing. If you are on track in real life and looking up the track properly you aren't watching anything flyby as such. In fact you probably think you're going slower than you actually are. Once things look fast you are probably overdriving.
Interesting take Keep in mind that VR isn’t 100% realistic, either. Most people turn their heads to look left and right in VR to see other cars, their mirrors, apexes, etc. In real life of course this is accomplished by moving only your eyes. Hans devices in modern race cars would prevent much of the head movement most VR users utilize. I only say this to table the fact that no solution will be indisputable
Looks great Mike. I built an alcove in my mancave so I could have an permanent aluminium rig as opposed to the fold up, playseat challenge I used. I’d love triples but an Ultrawide is the biggest I can go and even that is a leap over a regular wide, so triples must be fantastic
@@THIS---GUY I had a 32 inch 16:9 before this and the ultrawide is wayyyyyy better in my opinion. I’d guess it all depends on your system and space really, my 32 was a 2560x1440 and my ultrawide is a 3440x1440 so it’s over an extra million pixels to push, but my system has handled it fine. Triples are a lot more pixels to push again but I would imagine, for pure immersion, after VR, you can’t beat triples, but I just don’t have the room, so for me, the ultrawide is as good as I can have
all of that money and effort but you have the camera shake on. that just kills the immersion for me personally. if I was driving a real car and the dashboard started moving relative to the wheel then I'd be worried.
Great setup and video (as always!). I have a super ultrawide (57", R1000 curve, 4K) but thinking of adding two flat x 27 monitors either side (GPU = RTX4090 so 'should' be able to run all at 2K or maybe even 4k @120Hz) because one thing I find really distracting with triples is the proportion of the side monitors. In a real car the windscreen would be curved and over twice the size of the side windows but having equally sized monitors doesn't reflect that (although of course it's easier to set up). If I manage to get two 27" x 2/4K x 120Hz monitors at a reasonable price then I'll give it a go, see if it works as hoped.
I have VR as well but it hangs on my wall unused and collecting dust. It is fantastic except if you wear glasses (I do) or don't want to be wiping the sweat off your ears and forehead constantly (especially during summer) or you have kids that need attention sometimes or have dogs that need attention sometimes or don't want more wires attached to your head or just want to be aware of your surroundings to see who just walked into your house or the many games that don't support VR or the eye fatigue I suffer from using VR for more than an hour at a time.... I thought VR would replace my monitor (a 55 inch Samsung curved 4K TV at the time) but in all honesty I regret buying it. I paid $600 for three LG IPS 75 Hz 1440p led monitors and have them mounted on a Trak Racer triple monitor stand. Being free to get up or look around the room or pause the game and just talk to my girlfriend when she walks up to me is far, far superior to VR hassles. Triples has it's issues. Some games don't play nice with Eyefinity running. Usually simply changing the resolution to 2560x1440 and going windowed mode will fix it. Simple Runtime Window Editor program can fix some of the games that refuse to play nice.
Last year I bought the best ultrawide 34GN850 for 1K. Now, when monitor prices stabilized in the EU, I could buy triples for the same price. But it is what it is.
I just can't get over the buzz I being "in" the cockpit in VR but for some reason I don't find the sense of speed that great. Don't you find 27" so close at only 1080P a bit blurry? I thought that monitor size is 1440P territory (or sit futher back :P)
Continuing a point you brought up, upgrading to triple monitors back around 2010 was the greatest decision ever!If you are an oval racer or run Sports/Endurance cars on oval road courses like Daytona or Charlotte, triples make it SO EASY to go two,or even three wide on the oval! Before the triples, even going two wide in the long banked turns of Daytona or Talladega made me anxious, lol.
I got rid of triples and went for a 34" ultra wide plus VR to conserve space. Maybe go back someday for better screens but who knows. Oculus 2 is absolutely amazing kit for the $, I have to imagine psvr2 will be pretty awesome, but at some point they'll hit that sandy bridge/ryzen style power spike and a headset will definitively obliterate screens.
I wanted a McLaren GT3 wheel when I switched to Fanatec but it wasn't available so I went with the Formula V2.5X. But I'm still debating whether to get the McLaren anyway and use the Formula rim as back up.
Moved from a VRG2 to 3 x 4K 50 inch screens for the FOV, edge to edge clarity and most importantly comfort. Also no eye strain over long sessions, which may be a personal thing.
Is this ACC? 😱 i am on Playstation, so looking forward for the Ps5 version next week. Man man, what a sound!!! What track and car is that from 0:25 until 1:55? Great video, thanks for showing 👍
Nice Setup.I was wondering if your gpu is able to do 3 x1440P and what are youre experience and setting you are running? If I am not mistaking you are runing a Amd 6800xt ?
I have a 49" super-ultrawide (32:9) all the advantages of a single screen together with 80% of the fov of triples with none of the drawbacks. Main "issue" is 60Hz but that is perfectly playable in ACC and my pc also handles 55-60fps on ultra and there is no way I will be upgrading that over the next year or two 😂
I have a triple screen as well but it doesn't work right. With NVidia control I was able to get the game to play on 3 screens but the 4th screen on top went black after merging the 3 Samsung G7 screens. The game looks great, just like in your video, but I don't yet know how to fix the problem with the 4th screen. I am VERY new to sim racing and multiple monitors. I would be thrilled if someone knows how to get the 4th screen to work again.
I'm a VR sim racer and cant go back to the flat monitor image. I try it but it doesnt work. Even tripples are a flat image...vr is a real 3d image that helps to calculate distances (to cars, corners, curbs ) and gives you the feeling to sit in a racecar... no megainch sourround monitorsetup can give you that.
Any reason you didnt go truple 34? Cost? Im building a rig as we speak and i want to get a single screen for now( i currently only use VR). I want something that i can triple later own the line. 34 or even 32 seems like the obvious choice if i have to run it single for a while
i am going to say what a difference triples make, think i will buy 2 more monitors a 32 for main and another 27 for side or do i buy all the same, up grade my gpu, i only have the gigabyte RX580 in my main computer
I really wish the side mirrors wouldn't show you so much of what's behind you. That's what the rear view mirror is for. A number of times you just lose sight of the car alongside and have to wait to see if they come back alongside or appear in the side mirror.
Also depends what monitors and what VR headset. Pimax 8kx has been my favourite, but I prefer my triple screens to some other VR headsets I've had. Next generation of headsets should be interesting for sim racers by the end of 2022. Nice video!
A number of years ago, I ran 24" triples 1080p 120htrz monitors with Nvidia 3d vision glasses with head tracking. When it all worked, it was amazing. I would love to go back to triples, Maybe I need to try VR again.
I'm a mostly VR user and I like the sense of wearing a helmet as I ride motorcycles. But if you want to be faster, triples may be better if not wearing a helmet when racing.
I had dismissed a triple monitor setup because I use VR but there are numerous times where I just don't feel like going through the setup it takes to start a game in VR. Also, there are times where I would rather not be in the headset simply because I like being able to see my hands on the wheel. Maybe a triple monitor setup is the better option for me even though VR is king of immersion.
Just installed my triples this weekend and I’m having a heck of a time setting them up in AMS2! Any tips from anyone out there that could help me out? I can’t get anything lined up right…I’ve messed with fov, the numbers and settings in the game, etc. I’m stumped
After more than 2 years racing in VR I think I am ready for triples. After a while have this Headset on for an hour or more a day gets a little annoying.
Hey Mike few questions or anyone who can help me out. (Btw great vid) I have had my triples for over a year now and Same Size as yours I have them on my Next Level Racing. One thing thats really bothering me is how do you managed to get the Bezels to aligned correctly? and the other question is what Monitor stand are ya using? many thanks in advance
Good video. I am currently using a HP Reverb G2 for my racing. Prior to that, I was using a single screen but with head tracking. I bought one of those playstation 3 modded camera's and a 3d printed ir headset. That setup worked great for being able to see the apex's. But VR is definitely the way to go for me. I use a Next Level Racing GT Lite fold up cockpit and don't have the room for triples. Using a vr headset with my setup is perfect and takes up very little space. When I am done, I get my office back. Since I run a business out of this spare bed room / office, I can't have a cockpit sitting in the middle of it (as much as I would really like that).
i have a vr and i do like it for sim racing but i hate the head set on my head. also its hard for me to know where my shifter and handbrake but that just me going to trying triple i think it will work better for me
Awesome video! I just discovered that I can use just the bottom half of my 4k TV to acheive a 32:9 windowed resolution, essentially an ultra wide aspect. I just set a window to 3840x1080 and leave my FOV alone but because it's half the size image but at 32:9 aspect I effectively get an ultra wide aspect and nothing stretches at all (like it would if you used full screen and cranked up the FOV. It's essentially like zooming out / putting the seat/eyes farther back but leaves FOV alone, so... It's awesome. I tested this on assetto Corsa and it works great.
That's pretty much my setup with bezel deletes including a VR headset option, two transducers one mounted to below my seat and one mounted to my pedals. A side note with the Mclaren GT3 rim, I came across an issue with the shifter magnet breaking through the hole it sits in and had to rebuild the side wall of the hole it sits in so be aware that will happen at some point and no more shifty shifty. I advice getting an after market paddle module.
the blacking out of the two other monitors really didnt prove anything as the view will be the same but smaller in one monitor, because theres no way u cant see the sje mirrors and rear view mirror if ur on one monitor..
@SimRacing604 It gets stretched, the view gets stretched from the 3 monitors, you shouldve actually disabled ur monitor instead of just putting a black box over them, so then the view would be back to normal
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Looks spot on! And it's a game changer.
With triples I hardly use the look left/right unless leaving the garage on rFactor2 (since they have collisions active).
Ordered a DD1 wheel, upgrading from CSW 2.5 let's see if that adds even more immersion.
I got the DD a few weeks ago, as upgrade to my good old fanatec gt3rs. It is ridiculously good, the difference is night and day.
Even though I love the immersion, I have not used VR in over a year. The biggest reason is that I do not like being out of my physical environment. Since I added a Fanatec Formula V2.5 and a button box, I cannot see myself going back to VR again soon. I have been using triple monitors since 2014 and they are a necessity, in my opinion.
I made the jump from 2.5 to DD2 and it is a great upgrade. Only run up to the 402 driver cos if you do really love RF2 the newer drivers break the FFB for that sim.
It was doing my head in till I rolled back.
@@edteach3r but be "out of the environment " is "in the car" and THE MAIN reason for using VR i guess. After 1 minute under the headset i forget about the sourroundings and sitting in the car . The real 3d depth image is a high advantage in simracing....
@@edteach3r I think using vr is annoying, uncomfortable, finnicky. Plus expensive.
Still, the experience is superior unless you spend even more on a full setup.
Congrats Mike! I raced exclusively in VR for 4 years, but got triple 32" back in September and haven't felt the desire for VR since. Wasn't even difficult to adjust due to accurate FOV settings, which was easy with the various FOV calculators available. Love the comfort and still plenty of immersion. Have also been able to use an old smartphone and tablet for secondary dash and telemetry data , which has been great. And finally, triples allow me to enjoy titles that aren't VR compatible or don't run well in VR (like ACC).
I have both triples and VR but always go to VR when possible. The added perception of depth helps me dramatically, especially in rally. I run so much better in VR on DR 2.0 than I am capable of running in WRC 10 on triples. But I don't have to worry about content creation.
Are you still using the motion platform? I'm hoping for that to be my next upgrade some time in the near future.
VR and motion rig would be insane. I don't think I'd go outside anymore lol.
Hey, I'm 604 too :D. waiting till I move to my new house before I get serious on sim rig/racing.
Quite the difference thanks for the video Mike.
Cool, Mike, but I tried this in a mall some months ago and a have to say the side monitors are basic for mirrors and you almost don't use them to drive, especially in very low FOV like you use. You know, it is nice, especially for watching, but I'll never spend money on this setup. I have a 34 ultrawide and considering changing for a 49 normal wide. VR is something else, I had one 2 years ago but too much sickness for me, sadly.
49” ultra wide is awesome! That’s probably the best middle ground. I love my triples, but I’d probably be happy with a 49” uw as well
i've been considering replacing my VR setup with triples, but I feel like the right side monitor which is missing the depth feeling of the right side of a car which is flat away from where the monitor is like angled back wouldn't feel quit right. Comparitively the left side monitor which looks out your window makes sense as the angle of the car comes back at you the way the monitor does. Does that make sense? How do you feel that right side monitor actually represents the width of the car?
4 surprise is new graphic not enough for some racing game on triple screen.
Which one is the best for sim racing
60fps with ultra setting or 120fps with low-med setting?
So good! I love the blacking out of the side screens, really shows off what your trying to show.
Thank you. You have no idea how hard that was for an amateur video editor like me, lol. I was hoping someone would appreciate it, haha
@@SimRacing604 Wait but isn't it _slightly_ misleading? Is the FOV not a fair bit lower on the centre screen than it would be on a regular single-monitor? So I get the point, but just as observation
@@cameronnaidoo8564 naw, it’s the same calculation whether it’s single or triples
Anyone have any opinions of 27" triples vs 32" triples?
You need this plastic border eliminator things too.
I switched from triples to ultra-wide and also VR. Honestly, it was a MISTAKE. It didn't take me too long to regret it. The problem was, my monitors were only 60hz and I wanted to upgrade to something a bit better. For budget reasons, I only went up to 100hz on my ultra-wide. I could not have afforded to upgrade all three monitors (I was also upgrading my PC at around the same time). But, hindsight being what it is, I wish I had stuck with my triples. The sense of immersion is terrific and I actually prefer it even to VR, which has a narrower FOV and requires moving your head right and left often to look for cars that may be along side. IMHO, if you're torn between ultra-wide, VR or triples, go with triples, if you can afford the price, and have the room.
Its the reason I went for a 170 degree VR headset but I am tempted by triples for the improved clarity at distance
theres difference between vr and vr.
the reverb g2 has low fov. valve index has much higher, the new pimaxes have even higher.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Well the Index isn't much higher but it is a perceivable improvement, even my old Pimax has a greater FoV than the Index which is the key reason I bought it.
@@Space-O-2001 well yes, going from under 100 degrees to 110 and 120 is much more impactful than going beyond that
@@Space-O-2001 although I thought index had 120 and not 110 degrees
I got myself a 49" CRG9 just over a year ago. I get most of the benefits you mention, although my view isn't quite as wide as yours but it's a lot easier to set up and run. Would probably have been cheaper to buy triples though :D
I ALMOST bought a 49” uw myself. Great monitor, but I couldn’t afford it with the specs I was looking for. But yeah, you’re right, it has pretty much all of the benefits of my triples
oddly,i went from triples to a 49,mainly for aesthetics in my room,essentially its equiv to two 27's.the lack of real estate is offset by using TrackIR on top,plus the performance increase on my system was noticable.the main thing i like is the lack of any bezels in the viewing area.
I am in the same boat. I love my 49 inch screen, but I do sometimes miss the sense of speed that tripples would have offered. An advantage of 49 is that the tax on the GPU is somewhat less than tripples. Another important point for discussion is the vertical screen space. That's why wide screen TV's are interesting as well, e.g. a 66 inch tv could be fun as well.
Lett me introduce you a way less than half the price more than 100% immersion: VR :) But it also has some minor disadvantages.For me the only thing was endurance races can be tough unles you dont have a good cooler setup.
The added sense of speed is one of my favorite things about triple monitors.
Yes...VR and content creation makes for more difficulty. You feel like you have to take off the headset to reconnect with the audience but the footage is so much better...it's a trade-off.
For me I jumped from single (15.6" Laptop screen) to VR last year and man its perfect especially AMS2. Before the ACC 1.8, I would have ditched VR for triples just for the title but now since it had been improved I have not thought of triples.And all the other sims run great aswell, except iracing as I dont have that.
only issue with acc is that it looks weirdly blurry compared to ams2 or ac even at the same resolutions in VR.
I think because of how it's taa is done
@@abeidiot yeah I think its a TAA thing, AMS2 is definitely sharp compared to ACC but I've messed with the settings to the point where its not blury anymore, I can see road, kerb and tire details, its tempting to get it shaper but then thats when I lose performance comepletely. Its always an issue of balancing Quality and FPS.
His reasons for not using VR basically come down to content creation. Triples have advantages apart from resolution. VR or die!
Then you should try Iracing, because it is the more optimized racing title in VR
@@fabioguimaraes3455 instead of spending a fortune for just 1 game, could use half that money to spend on a better gpu and headset to get better resolution
That's a great setup Mike and triples is so much better than a single monitor. But when I switched from triples to VR there is no way I can go back. Nothing beats the immersion of VR :)
Looks cool. I still prefer my Reverb G2--only for the depth of 3D.
Yeah, VR rocks. If I only used my PC for racing that’s probably the way I’d go too
@@SimRacing604 If you exclusively play vr titles with the wheel then it works pretty good as the wheel and rig can be away from desk
For every simracer out there: Triples are a must because of all the points you mentioned. I also went to triples a while ago and it definitely improved the fun, immersion and everything else. Was on 43” 4K single screen. Went to 3x27” 1080p. I wanted 3x32” 1440p but my GPU can’t run 1440p with good FPS so 1080p for me and it’s a little bit unsharp, I’m used to it but reading the little dashboard info’s of some cars are difficult.
Ideal: 3x32” 1440p but 3x27” 1080p still OK. My budget only allowed just triples 27” 1080p and without GPU upgrade. RTX 2070 Super is my GPU. If I had 3090 then yeah bring it on triples 32” 1440p with everything on Epic. Now I run low/medium and very few high settings. And I can maintain above 60 FPS with 35 Grid. Only difficult when rain and dark like on Nurburgring on ACC. Race Begin it drops to 45-48 FPS, then when field gets sorted it climbs above 60 FPS.
Cool vid Mike! I’m obviously a VR fiend, but I can see why many prefer triples too. I did consider going that route before 2017 also.
There are pluses and minuses to both(monitor clarity & peripheral vision, vs 3D spatial & depth perception etc), so whatever works for the user is a great choice!
Great review. For me VR kills it stone dead
I'm glad Mike mentioned his experiences at the end. For me, triples will always be vastly superior to VR. But, it depends if you run a manual shifter, button boxes, peripheral displays, etc. I can definitely see why some people like VR though, especially if you need to have a more compact, simplistic rig.
With the black screens you've sold it to me. I've been in between what I really want for a long time...49'' UW with a head tracker or triples (27'', of course the most preferable setup would be 55"+ triples, but that's at an insane budget with 144hz). I think the hassle of setting up triples is worth it having seen this video.
Awesome vid as always!
I'd love to see a more centered camera angle to get a proper perception of what you see with the triple screen setup!
I have to agree. Seeing the triples from an angle really is not the way to demonstrate them. It's not how you see them when you're behind the wheel at all. Many of the videos about triples do the same thing (showing from an angle) and I just can't understand why.
Alright you’ve convinced me. I’m going triples. ಠ_ಠ
Get the ASUS ROG Bezel-Free Kit ABF01 Universal Multi-Monitor Setup.
Nice setup 👍. Very immersive. Gives me something to strive for ☺️
Thanks Corey!
VR driving without a motion sim chair is sickening. Triple monitors is the way to go unless you have a motion sim to translate G-forces to your brain through your butt. If you want to add a little more immersion to your triple setup you can always add TrackIR.
You didn't mention 1 ultra wide 34" screen and a TrackIR ..
Same for me. Love the triple setup. Only it is very demanding. I have a 8700k cpu and a 1080ti gpu but when racing in triple 1440p I have to tone down the GFX to maintain 60fps.
I’ve been pretty lucky with my 6800 XT. The ~20% increase in pixels going from one 3440 x 1440 monitor to three 1920 x 1080 monitors didn’t really impact performance for me. I can still get 90 fps in most games with high settings, so that’s good enough for me
So sad not many people play on triple screen. Don't say no space , My home so small , I can use triple screen.
@5:21 The racer ahead of you is cheating, driving a Delorean.
that angle is like form a school bus..
Hey Mike, thanks for this very interesting video. I am actually planning to move from a single 34" ultrawide 1440p to a triple 27" 1080p setup. I'd love to go triple 1440p but that might be too much workload for my 6800XT, Ryzen 5 3600x, 32GB.
Are you missing some kind of graphics fidelity from your old 1440p vs. new 1080p or is it barely noticeable?
Bigger is better hopefully you didnt make the 27" mistake. Monitors should always be future proofed on your rig.
@@darrylcote9759 Haha, I did go for the triple 27" screens due to the lower space requirements. Triple 34" would have been too much for my room. But I did go for the higher 1440p resolutions and it's a blast to drive on these triples :-)
@@danieldulberg2167 how many fps do you get with your setup?
@@Starfac3 depends on the SIM and how much you want to crank up the settings. ACC 80-90 FPS with a mix of epic - medium settings. AMS2 100-120 FPS almost maxed out, without Supersampling. rF2 100-120 FPS with a mix of ultra - medium settings. I typically turn down shadows and reflections to a level that is acceptable, as you can gain a lot of FPS from these settings.
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
AMD Radeon 6800XT
32 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
3x 27" 7680x1440 Resolution in total
@@danieldulberg2167 thx. I m still thinking about buying 1080p or 1440p triple screen. My specs rx 6800xt, ryzen 5 3600 16gb DDR
Great video! The only thing stopping me from going triple is my RTX3070 gpu!!! Don’t thing it can handle triple with good FPS !
A good alternative is the 49" Ultrawide Samsung G9, which runs great with an RTX 3070
yes it can. 3x1080p no problem.
Ud see all that with it on one screen as wouldn't be split across 3!?🙈
Nice! I just recently upgraded to triple monitors and the immersion has been great. I've got a VR headset as well but I prefer the triple
Great video Mike. Thanks for sharing your perspective! I too love VR, but I find triples much more convenient but I do agree that they take up a lot of space, and are a pain to set up properly. When VR becomes a pair of glasses that are light, high res, and cheaper I'll revisit the technology .. and hope the "Metaverse" dies in the mean time...
Does the right screen look weird?
V3 inverted pedals amazing
Good old PC2...
Just got my triples. Hadn’t raced in about 2 months because of the Fanatec BF debacle and didn’t have a sim setup. In my first race with triples I podiumed. It’s night and day from single
That’s awesome!
You can also up your FOV like AC1 let's you put it so high you can see all 3 mirrors in a farly wide road car. Or you can map quick look or you could just play with a controller so you can accuss the right stick and look as you would IRL...
VR or nothing.
If you are on track in real life and looking up the track properly you aren't watching anything flyby as such. In fact you probably think you're going slower than you actually are. Once things look fast you are probably overdriving.
Interesting take
Keep in mind that VR isn’t 100% realistic, either. Most people turn their heads to look left and right in VR to see other cars, their mirrors, apexes, etc. In real life of course this is accomplished by moving only your eyes. Hans devices in modern race cars would prevent much of the head movement most VR users utilize.
I only say this to table the fact that no solution will be indisputable
What is the inch size of these 3 screens ?
How many AI do you run in acc?
Typically about 23. I find that my PC only bogs down a little bit at the start of the race with 23 opponents
@@SimRacing604 same issue! I wish they dumbed down the AI physics so we could run endurance races with big grids like real life
I really like that you use affordable "mid-tier" sim equipment. Makes it easyer to compare and relate to my own setup.
Except for those shifters and handbrake lol SG is premium. I want the sequential.
@@jericosha2842 True! I meant the triples and wheelbase!
superultrawide for the win
Looks great Mike. I built an alcove in my mancave so I could have an permanent aluminium rig as opposed to the fold up, playseat challenge I used. I’d love triples but an Ultrawide is the biggest I can go and even that is a leap over a regular wide, so triples must be fantastic
How does ultra wide feel compared to this? Good investment or just stick with single until I can get a triple
@@THIS---GUY I had a 32 inch 16:9 before this and the ultrawide is wayyyyyy better in my opinion. I’d guess it all depends on your system and space really, my 32 was a 2560x1440 and my ultrawide is a 3440x1440 so it’s over an extra million pixels to push, but my system has handled it fine. Triples are a lot more pixels to push again but I would imagine, for pure immersion, after VR, you can’t beat triples, but I just don’t have the room, so for me, the ultrawide is as good as I can have
all of that money and effort but you have the camera shake on. that just kills the immersion for me personally. if I was driving a real car and the dashboard started moving relative to the wheel then I'd be worried.
Easy enough to turn off
Great setup and video (as always!). I have a super ultrawide (57", R1000 curve, 4K) but thinking of adding two flat x 27 monitors either side (GPU = RTX4090 so 'should' be able to run all at 2K or maybe even 4k @120Hz) because one thing I find really distracting with triples is the proportion of the side monitors.
In a real car the windscreen would be curved and over twice the size of the side windows but having equally sized monitors doesn't reflect that (although of course it's easier to set up). If I manage to get two 27" x 2/4K x 120Hz monitors at a reasonable price then I'll give it a go, see if it works as hoped.
I have VR as well but it hangs on my wall unused and collecting dust. It is fantastic except if you wear glasses (I do) or don't want to be wiping the sweat off your ears and forehead constantly (especially during summer) or you have kids that need attention sometimes or have dogs that need attention sometimes or don't want more wires attached to your head or just want to be aware of your surroundings to see who just walked into your house or the many games that don't support VR or the eye fatigue I suffer from using VR for more than an hour at a time....
I thought VR would replace my monitor (a 55 inch Samsung curved 4K TV at the time) but in all honesty I regret buying it. I paid $600 for three LG IPS 75 Hz 1440p led monitors and have them mounted on a Trak Racer triple monitor stand. Being free to get up or look around the room or pause the game and just talk to my girlfriend when she walks up to me is far, far superior to VR hassles.
Triples has it's issues. Some games don't play nice with Eyefinity running. Usually simply changing the resolution to 2560x1440 and going windowed mode will fix it. Simple Runtime Window Editor program can fix some of the games that refuse to play nice.
Last year I bought the best ultrawide 34GN850 for 1K. Now, when monitor prices stabilized in the EU, I could buy triples for the same price. But it is what it is.
I just can't get over the buzz I being "in" the cockpit in VR but for some reason I don't find the sense of speed that great. Don't you find 27" so close at only 1080P a bit blurry? I thought that monitor size is 1440P territory (or sit futher back :P)
Continuing a point you brought up, upgrading to triple monitors back around 2010 was the greatest decision ever!If you are an oval racer or run Sports/Endurance cars on oval road courses like Daytona or Charlotte, triples make it SO EASY to go two,or even three wide on the oval! Before the triples, even going two wide in the long banked turns of Daytona or Talladega made me anxious, lol.
I got rid of triples and went for a 34" ultra wide plus VR to conserve space. Maybe go back someday for better screens but who knows. Oculus 2 is absolutely amazing kit for the $, I have to imagine psvr2 will be pretty awesome, but at some point they'll hit that sandy bridge/ryzen style power spike and a headset will definitively obliterate screens.
I wanted a McLaren GT3 wheel when I switched to Fanatec but it wasn't available so I went with the Formula V2.5X. But I'm still debating whether to get the McLaren anyway and use the Formula rim as back up.
Back to v3 pedals?
Moved from a VRG2 to 3 x 4K 50 inch screens for the FOV, edge to edge clarity and most importantly comfort. Also no eye strain over long sessions, which may be a personal thing.
Is this ACC? 😱 i am on Playstation, so looking forward for the Ps5 version next week. Man man, what a sound!!! What track and car is that from 0:25 until 1:55? Great video, thanks for showing 👍
Nice Setup.I was wondering if your gpu is able to do 3 x1440P and what are youre experience and setting you are running? If I am not mistaking you are runing a Amd 6800xt ?
I have a 49" super-ultrawide (32:9) all the advantages of a single screen together with 80% of the fov of triples with none of the drawbacks. Main "issue" is 60Hz but that is perfectly playable in ACC and my pc also handles 55-60fps on ultra and there is no way I will be upgrading that over the next year or two 😂
I have a triple screen as well but it doesn't work right. With NVidia control I was able to get the game to play on 3 screens but the 4th screen on top went black after merging the 3 Samsung G7 screens. The game looks great, just like in your video, but I don't yet know how to fix the problem with the 4th screen. I am VERY new to sim racing and multiple monitors. I would be thrilled if someone knows how to get the 4th screen to work again.
Hi guys can i have distance between my eyes and straight monitor 80cm? I have 32inch monitor. Thanks
Bro set up your FoV please
Brilliant video mate 👍👍. I’m looking at going down this route, would you recommend flat or curved screens?
Great Video to compare 1 vs 3 Monitors. I love this "BLING" Sound :D thx I personaly use a HP Reveb G2 with 100 FOV or 3x 32" curved Monitors
Ur right screen needs to go out some what it’s off by a mile
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I'm a VR sim racer and cant go back to the flat monitor image. I try it but it doesnt work. Even tripples are a flat image...vr is a real 3d image that helps to calculate distances (to cars, corners, curbs ) and gives you the feeling to sit in a racecar... no megainch sourround monitorsetup can give you that.
Any reason you didnt go truple 34? Cost? Im building a rig as we speak and i want to get a single screen for now( i currently only use VR). I want something that i can triple later own the line. 34 or even 32 seems like the obvious choice if i have to run it single for a while
i am going to say what a difference triples make, think i will buy 2 more monitors a 32 for main and another 27 for side or do i buy all the same, up grade my gpu, i only have the gigabyte RX580 in my main computer
I mean none of them are surprising at all, I'd call all of them very obvious and they are why many run an "incorrect" FoV.
Triple is nice but it's very demanding on your pc. ACC Especially lol
I really wish the side mirrors wouldn't show you so much of what's behind you. That's what the rear view mirror is for.
A number of times you just lose sight of the car alongside and have to wait to see if they come back alongside or appear in the side mirror.
Also depends what monitors and what VR headset. Pimax 8kx has been my favourite, but I prefer my triple screens to some other VR headsets I've had. Next generation of headsets should be interesting for sim racers by the end of 2022. Nice video!
How woud triples compare to the 49" Samsung super ultra wide?
A number of years ago, I ran 24" triples 1080p 120htrz monitors with Nvidia 3d vision glasses with head tracking. When it all worked, it was amazing. I would love to go back to triples, Maybe I need to try VR again.
I race and fly on single monitor but with trackir, so my head movement looks into corner apexes.
I'm a mostly VR user and I like the sense of wearing a helmet as I ride motorcycles. But if you want to be faster, triples may be better if not wearing a helmet when racing.
Hi, is it possible to use 16:9 + 32:9 + 16:9 for triple setup? Or it must all same screen ratio to works ?
I had dismissed a triple monitor setup because I use VR but there are numerous times where I just don't feel like going through the setup it takes to start a game in VR. Also, there are times where I would rather not be in the headset simply because I like being able to see my hands on the wheel. Maybe a triple monitor setup is the better option for me even though VR is king of immersion.
Hopefully the gpu pricing madness ends someday. If that happens then I am going for it. My RTX 2060 struggles already on a single 1440p monitor.
If I had space and money, I’d love to do that. I don’t have space nor money, hence I’m really happy with VR.
Just installed my triples this weekend and I’m having a heck of a time setting them up in AMS2! Any tips from anyone out there that could help me out? I can’t get anything lined up right…I’ve messed with fov, the numbers and settings in the game, etc. I’m stumped
After more than 2 years racing in VR I think I am ready for triples. After a while have this Headset on for an hour or more a day gets a little annoying.
need to lube up those V3s buddy, lol. good vid, thanks for the content.
Hey Mike few questions or anyone who can help me out. (Btw great vid) I have had my triples for over a year now and Same Size as yours I have them on my Next Level Racing. One thing thats really bothering me is how do you managed to get the Bezels to aligned correctly? and the other question is what Monitor stand are ya using? many thanks in advance
Go with atleast 32" you wont be sorry but might need a better PC :)
fantastic vid!! Side question: what camera did you use to record this vid??
Wow! I can't believe the difference with just this video!! I couldn't imagine the real thing!! Awesome!!
Ultra wide gang
Good video. I am currently using a HP Reverb G2 for my racing. Prior to that, I was using a single screen but with head tracking. I bought one of those playstation 3 modded camera's and a 3d printed ir headset. That setup worked great for being able to see the apex's. But VR is definitely the way to go for me. I use a Next Level Racing GT Lite fold up cockpit and don't have the room for triples. Using a vr headset with my setup is perfect and takes up very little space. When I am done, I get my office back. Since I run a business out of this spare bed room / office, I can't have a cockpit sitting in the middle of it (as much as I would really like that).
i have a vr and i do like it for sim racing but i hate the head set on my head. also its hard for me to know where my shifter and handbrake but that just me going to trying triple i think it will work better for me
Awesome video!
I just discovered that I can use just the bottom half of my 4k TV to acheive a 32:9 windowed resolution, essentially an ultra wide aspect. I just set a window to 3840x1080 and leave my FOV alone but because it's half the size image but at 32:9 aspect I effectively get an ultra wide aspect and nothing stretches at all (like it would if you used full screen and cranked up the FOV.
It's essentially like zooming out / putting the seat/eyes farther back but leaves FOV alone, so... It's awesome. I tested this on assetto Corsa and it works great.
What's your fov settings for single and triple please?
Ah ha, crossing the pit exit line at long beach eh? Tut tut!!! 😉
vr all the way!
hey man, you are great. Can i ask a question? How much fps are you taking?
Thank you. I try to run my monitors at 90fps.
Oh thankss 🎉
That's pretty much my setup with bezel deletes including a VR headset option, two transducers one mounted to below my seat and one mounted to my pedals. A side note with the Mclaren GT3 rim, I came across an issue with the shifter magnet breaking through the hole it sits in and had to rebuild the side wall of the hole it sits in so be aware that will happen at some point and no more shifty shifty. I advice getting an after market paddle module.
the blacking out of the two other monitors really didnt prove anything as the view will be the same but smaller in one monitor, because theres no way u cant see the sje mirrors and rear view mirror if ur on one monitor..
I’m not sure what you’re saying
@SimRacing604 It gets stretched, the view gets stretched from the 3 monitors, you shouldve actually disabled ur monitor instead of just putting a black box over them, so then the view would be back to normal
Nice gloves!