Love the guitar!!! I’m hoping that piano vision will be available on Vision Pro soon, loved using it on quest 3, and similar apps on visionOS isn’t that great yet
@@Superz3ro that’s correct, however none works as good as Piano Vision (just feel like Piano Vision team put a lot of effort into making the app, the others are just a not so good midi player).
you should set a window on a location (front of your fridge, a certain part of your desk, a certain placement on a certain wall), and mark it as you want, marking the location and orientation. when you want a window to show up there, apple should recognize your marking and create a window.
Great points! Can’t wait for what’s to come in ARkit in the future. Myself is also heavily interested and invested in creating a solid immersive video player because Apple locked their perfect one inside AppleTV. We’re not very knowledgeable in 360 stereo video (sphere projection thing) at the moment but will strive to create a solid platform for high quality non-Apple immersive content.
Great review! Agree with everything here- a lot of low hanging fruit and missed opportunities. Hopefully they’ll at least start to open more APIs to developers so we can build the things they won’t.
I think your years of experience working with VR/AR left you numb and out of touch to what average people find revolutionary. Most Americans have some experience with the Quest or similar VR gaming headsets. Either we’ve tried one or our children/friend/brother/husband or boyfriend have insisted we try their amazing new toy. They’re also sold everywhere at Walmart, Amazon and Best Buy. The AVP 4k OLED displays, the mapping that is so realistic the windows cast shadows, stay fixed in space and reflect your actual room’s lighting. Normal people are not feeling sick and working on real productivity task because there is ZERO lag! None of the trippy, disorientation or nausea. Finally people are blown away by the best movie and tv watching experience they have ever had. Your technical knowledge has you focused away from the simple but important barriers that kept people from mass adoption of previous VR headsets. Apple nailed the problems that mattered and the only thing they need to do is make a less expensive version
Yes I agree with all the good stuff and said as much in the stuff they nailed. However, it is not nearly doing what the device is capable of, and isn;t worth the $3500 for "average people" as you put it. Also, there are some tradeoffs that software can't fix e.g. if you use mixed reality for a long time (versus sitting still and watching a movie) it is less comfortable than the Quest because of the motion blur.
I’ve used the quest 3 for that long, but probably over several months. I don’t think I could use it over several weeks without really having my head hurt.
6:06 Apple should team up with Metahuman and use Volume instead of a floating picture The 3d hands and head controled by the headset, and Metahuman could fill in a 3d clothing for the body
Yeah Apple and Epic’s contentious relationship is a shame. Because you’re on point - unreal and meta humans would be perfect for the Vision Pro. I mean all that compute is waiting to be used!
Metaquest did team up with Microsoft. Btw Microsoft's Hololens is the same price as Apple Vision Pro But the next Metaquest 4 might have the Hololens features put in. I planned on waiting till 2nd gen The XREAL Air 2 Ultra comes out next month, and it supposedly has spatial computers, hand tracking and it works with ios, android, windows, mac, game consoles
lol no the tracking is not great on a plane or in a car or even in low light ......it can be good but there r tons of reported issues about it ....less so for low lifht but yeah there r issues even with that despite of the ir lights and the lidar ...and there r stuff like the tracking getting confused by the apple tv wallpaper that is slightly moving on a tv that is tricking Vpro to think it is moving
Which headset has better tracking? The standing desk thing is indeed funny - seems the screen anchor is relative to the table plane/geometry versus in absolute space. Actually pretty cool if you ask me!
I wish Apple had actually made something unique, but instead what we got was a HoloLens with passthrough copy (and better tech; a few years have gone by) down to the forefinger and thumb tap to click and or drag-- including gaze I believe, lol and personas. Comparivaely, AVP has better FOV, win some dim sum.
Be great if it had the sort of AI and display ease and prowess of the Lumen Pad 2 etc. The AI depth that it can add to any 2d content is great, though not as good as having true 3d content. What is great is running reshade and having the bulk of my PC gaming and 3d apps streamed to the tablet and instantly appear in glasses free eye tracked 3d.
Couldn’t agree more. Really missed oppty to convert all your existing media into 3D. Depth estimation and in-painting has gotten really good. Maybe eventually?
VR/AR headsets are always the most impressive device. Before the Vision Pro. There are just a failed marketing vr headsets that focus limited to gaming and not a lot of people have even used them and bashing it already. Is the first device ever that will get better overtime when there is are decent amount of good apps/games and out of early beta stage
Hmm I wonder if Vision Pro sold 20 million you'd be saying "not a lot of people use it" Because that's how many Quests meta has sold through. AR/VR won't crack mass adoption mainstream until they reach sunglasses form factor
@@eon5323 20 million isn't bad for a brand that hasn't been as long as 2 decades but reason that it sold that high isn't with marketing but the event that take place such as covid. I own a Quest 2 and is easily the best $300 I spend and I owned a lot of device. If you know how capable vr/ar is, asking it to get to the sunglasses form without compromises is too much to ask. I would say improve the comfort and reinvent how people would wear it would be an upgrade
Think that the 20% of roadmap being shipped is also coming from the secretive culture @ Apple. All the people working in silo's, so all the other teams were not involved with this at all.
most VR world limit the number of people that can interact ! if world should be realistic ( not like wii persona ) the power for compute will be to much to be use in mobile context !! Horizon Meta world is still now an awfull empty experience , love IRL ( smellt, touch , ...) !! Google earth VR is really nice ( except resolution ) ... nexstep is hight scan resolution of the world not from satellite or car camera but from human eye level ( house , room, street ...) . in IRL VR or MR is justified for piloting machines that cost a lot in maintenance or fuel, or for avoiding costly travel ( dassault catia 3D), or even avoiding the manufacture of a prototype. thank's to bezier curve research !!
all vision do , it ll do all better than a quest but do the same thing . Apple was the best ads meta can have because people can buy oculus headset , only a few people ( beta tester ?) can buy apple vision Pro that is really the top headset in 2024. Does governement will allow drive with an headset ? How many battery should you take with you during one day to use the headset ? with quest you have boboVR that seem really more efficient than apple vision pro. perhaps AVP is like Apple watch : need many upgrade version to succeed. watch seem only usefull for notification all others functionnalities need too many power to be use during one day !! it is more true for headset !! The issue with Meta : they don't have their own OS like Apple or android of google or harmony of huawei ! No Quest in 2024 support real hardware azerty keyboard in 2024 !! a joke compare to AVP !!! the AVP concept is : buy many headsets for each member of familly to use many virtual screen /controller alone together for short time !! small and autonomy should be the next step !!
Love the guitar!!! I’m hoping that piano vision will be available on Vision Pro soon, loved using it on quest 3, and similar apps on visionOS isn’t that great yet
Agreed. Piano vision is really fun! Could be so fun to augment all kinds of instruments
Piano apps of various types are already available…
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@@Superz3ro that’s correct, however none works as good as Piano Vision (just feel like Piano Vision team put a lot of effort into making the app, the others are just a not so good midi player).
@@spatialintel bro the nasty guitar licks 2 minutes in.... subscribed
Bilwal! Love your stuff man! Good luck on the channel
that’s music option is amazing, i’m learning drums this will help instead of my having to look to the side at my ipad
I think they purposely held back on some of the abilities of this device. Especially collocation. I'm really really hoping that happens in June.
you should set a window on a location (front of your fridge, a certain part of your desk, a certain placement on a certain wall), and mark it as you want, marking the location and orientation. when you want a window to show up there, apple should recognize your marking and create a window.
Under the hood Apple picks up a ton of this semantic detail, so they should just expose it in a 1P app and let us tweak/fix placement
Great points! Can’t wait for what’s to come in ARkit in the future. Myself is also heavily interested and invested in creating a solid immersive video player because Apple locked their perfect one inside AppleTV. We’re not very knowledgeable in 360 stereo video (sphere projection thing) at the moment but will strive to create a solid platform for high quality non-Apple immersive content.
Great review! Agree with everything here- a lot of low hanging fruit and missed opportunities. Hopefully they’ll at least start to open more APIs to developers so we can build the things they won’t.
Thanks! Here’s hoping WWDC brings these much needed changes
I think your years of experience working with VR/AR left you numb and out of touch to what average people find revolutionary. Most Americans have some experience with the Quest or similar VR gaming headsets. Either we’ve tried one or our children/friend/brother/husband or boyfriend have insisted we try their amazing new toy. They’re also sold everywhere at Walmart, Amazon and Best Buy. The AVP 4k OLED displays, the mapping that is so realistic the windows cast shadows, stay fixed in space and reflect your actual room’s lighting. Normal people are not feeling sick and working on real productivity task because there is ZERO lag! None of the trippy, disorientation or nausea. Finally people are blown away by the best movie and tv watching experience they have ever had. Your technical knowledge has you focused away from the simple but important barriers that kept people from mass adoption of previous VR headsets. Apple nailed the problems that mattered and the only thing they need to do is make a less expensive version
Yes I agree with all the good stuff and said as much in the stuff they nailed. However, it is not nearly doing what the device is capable of, and isn;t worth the $3500 for "average people" as you put it. Also, there are some tradeoffs that software can't fix e.g. if you use mixed reality for a long time (versus sitting still and watching a movie) it is less comfortable than the Quest because of the motion blur.
Now please spent 100 hours in meta quest 3
AVP is more of a holo lens competitor than meta quest, that’s what ppl get wrong
I’ve used the quest 3 for that long, but probably over several months. I don’t think I could use it over several weeks without really having my head hurt.
But you can use a Quest 3 like a AVP, it just doesn't do it as seamless. AVP well it cant do many things the Quest 3 can do. @@lilmichael212
6:06 Apple should team up with Metahuman and use Volume instead of a floating picture
The 3d hands and head controled by the headset, and Metahuman could fill in a 3d clothing for the body
Yeah Apple and Epic’s contentious relationship is a shame. Because you’re on point - unreal and meta humans would be perfect for the Vision Pro. I mean all that compute is waiting to be used!
Metaquest did team up with Microsoft.
Btw Microsoft's Hololens is the same price as Apple Vision Pro
But the next Metaquest 4 might have the Hololens features put in.
I planned on waiting till 2nd gen
The XREAL Air 2 Ultra comes out next month, and it supposedly has spatial computers, hand tracking and it works with ios, android, windows, mac, game consoles
HoloLens and their lackluster field of view is the biggest issue for me. The air 2 ultra does seem really cool though!
In other words the hardware is there and the software needs to catch up
Definitely. Apple had a solid hardware platform to iterate on. Now if only Siri gets that much needed upgrade too!
We need more Volume programmers, not just floating windows
Volume is another app design function in Apple Vision pro
lol no the tracking is not great on a plane or in a car or even in low light ......it can be good but there r tons of reported issues about it ....less so for low lifht but yeah there r issues even with that despite of the ir lights and the lidar
...and there r stuff like the tracking getting confused by the apple tv wallpaper that is slightly moving on a tv that is tricking Vpro to think it is moving
Which headset has better tracking? The standing desk thing is indeed funny - seems the screen anchor is relative to the table plane/geometry versus in absolute space. Actually pretty cool if you ask me!
I wish Apple had actually made something unique, but instead what we got was a HoloLens with passthrough copy (and better tech; a few years have gone by) down to the forefinger and thumb tap to click and or drag-- including gaze I believe, lol and personas. Comparivaely, AVP has better FOV, win some dim sum.
Be great if it had the sort of AI and display ease and prowess of the Lumen Pad 2 etc. The AI depth that it can add to any 2d content is great, though not as good as having true 3d content. What is great is running reshade and having the bulk of my PC gaming and 3d apps streamed to the tablet and instantly appear in glasses free eye tracked 3d.
Couldn’t agree more. Really missed oppty to convert all your existing media into 3D. Depth estimation and in-painting has gotten really good. Maybe eventually?
Sad But True is such a great song 😊
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SIRUS SAYS, NIICCCE MAN!!
VR/AR headsets are always the most impressive device. Before the Vision Pro.
There are just a failed marketing vr headsets that focus limited to gaming and not a lot of people have even used them and bashing it already. Is the first device ever that will get better overtime when there is are decent amount of good apps/games and out of early beta stage
Hmm I wonder if Vision Pro sold 20 million you'd be saying "not a lot of people use it"
Because that's how many Quests meta has sold through.
AR/VR won't crack mass adoption mainstream until they reach sunglasses form factor
@@eon5323 20 million isn't bad for a brand that hasn't been as long as 2 decades but reason that it sold that high isn't with marketing but the event that take place such as covid.
I own a Quest 2 and is easily the best $300 I spend and I owned a lot of device.
If you know how capable vr/ar is, asking it to get to the sunglasses form without compromises is too much to ask. I would say improve the comfort and reinvent how people would wear it would be an upgrade
I think Apple has set the stage for an iPhone like ubiquitous device. Feels def like a niche product for now, but it won’t be forever.
I hate the floaty glove hands 🤦🏾♂️
Think that the 20% of roadmap being shipped is also coming from the secretive culture @ Apple.
All the people working in silo's, so all the other teams were not involved with this at all.
it is indeed the apple way. though i really wish the apple maps team had a vision pro app at launch! maybe at wwdc this year?
most VR world limit the number of people that can interact ! if world should be realistic ( not like wii persona ) the power for compute will be to much to be use in mobile context !! Horizon Meta world is still now an awfull empty experience , love IRL ( smellt, touch , ...) !! Google earth VR is really nice ( except resolution ) ... nexstep is hight scan resolution of the world not from satellite or car camera but from human eye level ( house , room, street ...) . in IRL VR or MR is justified for piloting machines that cost a lot in maintenance or fuel, or for avoiding costly travel ( dassault catia 3D), or even avoiding the manufacture of a prototype. thank's to bezier curve research !!
Vision but not pro yet, still amateur maybe.
all vision do , it ll do all better than a quest but do the same thing . Apple was the best ads meta can have because people can buy oculus headset , only a few people ( beta tester ?) can buy apple vision Pro that is really the top headset in 2024. Does governement will allow drive with an headset ? How many battery should you take with you during one day to use the headset ? with quest you have boboVR that seem really more efficient than apple vision pro. perhaps AVP is like Apple watch : need many upgrade version to succeed. watch seem only usefull for notification all others functionnalities need too many power to be use during one day !! it is more true for headset !! The issue with Meta : they don't have their own OS like Apple or android of google or harmony of huawei ! No Quest in 2024 support real hardware azerty keyboard in 2024 !! a joke compare to AVP !!! the AVP concept is : buy many headsets for each member of familly to use many virtual screen /controller alone together for short time !! small and autonomy should be the next step !!