6 Keyboard Concertos Wq.43 By C.P.E. Bach (with Score)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2023
- This is the set that I feel stressed to do...
So many pages....too little time....
But this set of Hamburg concertos are quite neat.
Also, almost every movement is connected to next movement, which is quite interesting.
I wonder if there are some more similar concertos that are connected, and are composed before this set of concertos.
Hope you enjoy~
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Harpsichord: Andreas Staier
Orchestra: Freiburger Barockorchester
Conductor: Petra Mullejans
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Concierto en Fa Mayor Wq. 43 No. 1 0:00
Concierto en Re Mayor Wq. 43 No. 2 13:34
Concierto en Mi bemol Mayor Wq. 43 No. 3 35:52
Concierto en Do menor Wq. 43 No. 4 50:32
Concierto en Sol Mayor Wq. 43 No. 5 1:03:21
Concierto en Do Mayor Wq. 43 No. 6 1:15:46
The joke at the court of Frederick the Great ( where CPE Bach worked as keyboardist for over three decades) was about who actually ruled the place. The king himself was known to be quite intimidated and ruled over by the imposing figure of his demanding flute teacher Quantz, who could be notably critical of the royal playing. But Quantz in turn was apparently ruled over at home by his domestically domineering wife. However, she would do anything for her demanding little dog, and apparently would give the small spoiled pooch whatever he wanted. So the question was, who actually had the most power at court?
😂 a 18th century version of modern soap xD
This music is long on bravura and waaaay short on memorable tunes and development of such.
The incessant horn theme in the first movement makes one want to scream, "STOP it!."
But this is Rococco at either its best, or, worst.
Who can tell?
@@ww0yrr
If you rate composers on memorable tunes (and their development), then you will end up with your own personal list of favourites, and that’s cool; you’re quite right that CPE Bach would not get into the Top 250 whereas his half-brother JC would be in the Top 25.
Appreciating and understanding music is sometimes like listening to a language, you clearly understand English and what is being said, consider CPE Bach as speaking in German where you hear continually some harsh sounds that *you* don’t understand, and therefore cannot grasp the message.
This is I think borne out by your mis-labelling these strange sounds as Rococo which they absolutely are not; research the terms empfindsamer Stil and Empfindsamkeit (in English) and it will give you a better appreciation of CPE’s music.
This set of six concerto’s by the way is an exceptional group of challenging and intense works that are from a different musical planet to the more familiar series of piano concertos of Mozart which came very soon after and are much easier listening.
PS: There are memorable tunes here, it’s just that they are written ina language that perhaps you do not understand.
Ich liebe die Werke von CPE Bach,die sich sehr unterscheiden von den großartigen Klängen seines berühmten Vaters.😊
What a wonderful collection of concertos! Full of versatility and original ideas
I'm quite shocked by the form of the c minor concerto. For an early 1770's work (let alone by a composer sometimes not even considered fully classiccal), it has some daring structural features: The movements all being connected "attacca", the last movement employing the themes of the first movement like its own, the cadenza quoting the two inner movements. I really didn't expect any of that in a pre-Beethoven era.
Yeah!
As you continue your journey of discovery with CPE Bach it’s likely that you’ll soon stop being shocked by anything.
Things like cyclic integration, running movements together, and the like, appear in some of the sets of symphonies as well (Wq 182 and 183), though not always whole works as here; Haydn in particular picked up on some of these things (attacca subito finale in a few piano sonatas - Hob. XVI:37 - and occasionally elsewhere).
The keyboard sonata in A major Hob. XVI:30 runs all three movements together seamlessly.
Haydn’s Symphony 45 is the greatest single example of through-composition and cyclic integration before Beethoven’s Symphony 5 (throughout his life, Haydn recognised only CPE as a mentor, and CPE told him that he was the only composer who understood his teachings properly, and knew how to make use of them).
CPE’s set of harpsichord concertos Wq 43 is a very fine set that offers some radical evolutionary ideas in the development of form, as well as expression; written in 1772, it’s well worth listening to the string symphonies Wq 182 written the following year (1773) as they represent CPE at his original ‘private’ best, rather than some of his easier more galant ‘public’ works.
CPE is a Classical composer; the difficulty that arises for most listeners is that he doesn’t sound like Mozart and Haydn who are the main reference points for music of this period, so they try to say he’s ‘transitional’, ‘pre-Classical’, and lots of other things, most of which he’s not.
CPE died only 3 years before Mozart who’s as Classical as you can get, but the the differences in their music are easily explicable by their entirely different backgrounds and upbringing:
North German v Austrian (ie South),
Lutheran v Catholic,
employment conditions,
interests,
friends and colleagues,
and so many other things;
they both however remain Classical composers, but like Haydn and others, with a clear knowledge and understanding of their Baroque heritage evident in its assimilation into the newer style.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 interesting... composer's lifes are always that overlapping with surprise, like "born before Mozart, died after Mozart" aka Haydn.
Well CPE Bach is surely a unique composer, luckily someone has made the whole volume available w
What is the source for CPE Bach saying only Haydn understood? I am very interested in reading more about this.
C P E Bach has written some 50 plus harpsichord concertos and Maestro Miklos Spanyi has recorded them all !
Ohhhhhh really all?
I am looking desperately for a piano score for CPE Bach Wq. 42 (H242) Keyboard Sonata, I. Allegro Assai to no avail. Does ANYONE know if it is in print??
Check CPE Bach Edition
@@SisselOnline not sure what you mean. Is there a publisher you know of? I cannot find one who has published Wq. 42.
I remember there are 2 publishings which published the work, one is from CPE Bach Edition (urtext), which I didn't recall the publisher, another one is from The Complete Works, check cpebach.org for this one.
Very fast-paced. I like it. Action-y, almost.
I love the variations in Bachs music ❤
P.S. it's CPE Bach here
@@SisselOnline Ok, It is not as good as the real Bach but also good 😊
@@bjartestre5519 Actually, it is better than anything his father ever wrote.
Both are great!
Is this in Baroque A = 415 Hz tuning?
Might be? With the harpsichord...
I don't have perfect pitch qaq
I wonder what JS Bach thought of his sons' music. So completely different.
Probably not much, as he's following the trend.
@@SisselOnlineI see quite a bit JSBach in CPEBach but hardly anything in JChr
JC Bach is really another stuff hhhh so classical in some ways
@@SisselOnline I read somewhere that CPE didn't have to practice string instruments in the Bach family/business because he was lefthanded. Strange to see almost al the fast and difficult figuration in this concertos is for the right hand. Left mostly copies the bass lines.
Lol that's interesting 🧐
Left-handed at that era was a bit of burden I thought at the time?
1:01:23
Fast-paced stuff