Your a bloody legend mate! I just went straight for your settings, I am 175cm and 78kg and that has now transformed my bike to an even more reliable ride. Thanks for your efforts!
One thing I had to wrap my head around was that when people are talking about rebound and compression, it's actually rebound DAMPING and compression DAMPING. That means a rebound dampening setting of fully clockwise = slow rebound! Compression dampening fully clockwise = harder/slower through the stroke!
Yes thats true! I totally understand your doubt! I should have mentioned that in the video ,its probably a common misconception (or general poor choice of words on my part xD)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I will take the opportunity to say that your videos are still very entertaining! My wife who overheard said it sounded almost like a parody, but in a good way 😊
Well done, I realy like your suspension related videos a lot, they help to understand the suspension system better and how to match them better to personal needs. Keep up your great work!
Watched all 4 of your suspension videos after coming across this one. Liked all of them and subscribed to the channel. Buying your off-road course even just as a big thank you for all the great and clear info on this topic (but looking forward to improving my skills watching them, applying tips and doing suggested excursuses). I have done a prepayment for Norden 901 expedition after 10 years on 4 wheels only (last bike was a 2010 Z1000) and want to really know all the ins and outs about it. Already read all the manual and watched quite a few of great off road tutorial videos… I used to own Yamaha TTR-125LW as my first serious bike (after owning a 3-gears 50cc moped for a few years), so had some pretty good off road experience before getting to roads at age of 16 with a Honda CB400SF… Of course back than there was no great youtube tutorials out there… I think it was only with the Z1000 when I bought some books about motorcycle riding… Anyway:) Thanks a ton, brother!🤝 Ride safe everyone, have fun and great learning times!👍
I don't care too much about all this, because my bike has only preload adjustment, but I watched your video with great interest, because I like your videos so much! :)
people make suspension far more complicated than it actually is , it really isnt that complicated especially on this bike that has fewer adjustments than the other ktm's ive had , unfortunately , this series does a good job of explaining
I agree... People assume that only a professional can tune suspensions and that they will mess up if they try.... Its so easy to reset the suspension back to factory settings that you can do all the experiments you want even if you dont understand anything about it :D
@@OFFroadOFFcourse i read a book decades ago now called "the suspension bible" i think from Race Tech and some of the details may have changed but the basic function has not , spring=oil=valveing , movement of oil through valve slows down (dampens) action of spring
@@OFFroadOFFcourse yes always start at standard settings and go from there , i may be OCD but i keep track on a little tablet and write down the clicks this way or that and what i felt about the result ect .........
@@justsomedude445 Thanks to my friend John I have access to that "bible"...it is indeed the bible of suspensions. Suoer interesting read (didnt read it completely yet though :( )
@@OFFroadOFFcourse LoL havent looked at it in a while now but read through parts of it several times over , notes in margins oily finger prints tattered pages ect
if your rebound is more slow than your compression your suspension will pack (getting shorter and shorter) when moving over uneven surfaces - allways make sure that the rebound is faster than the compression - you can also observe that is the case when following one of the many stock recommendations
@@KIM_AdventureExplorer thanks for the heads up! I figured they would both use pretty similar WP setups. I'd consider a Norden, but the 890R is just so deliciously aggressive. Plus, I live about 5 minutes from a KTM dealer!
@@apancher if you see my channel you understand that 790/890 is pretty more aggressive. I tested in a video the norden and I think is more soft in suspension setting and engine erogation
Thank you for the video. I was considering buying the KTM 890r just because the fork dive is so extreme on the norden, but now that I know you can fix that, I would much rather have the full fairing for touring. I will be purchasing the norden expedition. Thank you again.
Forgot to mention very important fact - shock rebound almost always also affects compression damping. So by adjusting rebound you affect overall damping, not just rebound unfortunately
Amazing video like always, lots of information with a slice of humor. And also very usefull, I was having a hard time with the shock, and you gave me the nice ideia of trying to increase suspension travel by going for preload, I still think the shock is to soft and I dont even travel with a passanger ... but will try to think outside the box like you and see if i find a goldie locks zone with the oem .
Hi there. I will be picking up my Norden in a few weeks. That said, I noted down your suspension settings, but I didn't catch your weight. Care to share? Thanks.
@@stavrozinio Its important to drop test the bike from time to time...eveyone knows that :D Here in Portugal we have a saying: "To become a good rider, one must crash at least 7.5 times" Its an old saying about riding horses...i guess when it comes to motorcycles it should be "7.5 times... a month"
Viva Diogo, parabéns pelo excelente conteúdo com que nos presenteias. Utilizas 1.6bar nos dois pneus mesmo em estrada? Como se comporta em velocidades mais elevadas?
Can you tell me the maker of the engine protection bars on the Norden. I have look at many different makes but I like this design on your bike and would like to get a set of upper and lower bars.
You dont need to be afraid...whatever you do, if it doesn't work you can set it back to the "standart" settings in 5minutes (just look atht the table under the seat :) )
Your a bloody legend mate! I just went straight for your settings, I am 175cm and 78kg and that has now transformed my bike to an even more reliable ride. Thanks for your efforts!
Ahaha, awesome! Thanks for the feedback!
As ever, an informative, clear and humorous presentation. Great!
hehe, thanks Graham! appreciate it ^^
The opening analogy Washington on point! Great video!
Ahaha, thank you man :p
I try ^^
One thing I had to wrap my head around was that when people are talking about rebound and compression, it's actually rebound DAMPING and compression DAMPING. That means a rebound dampening setting of fully clockwise = slow rebound! Compression dampening fully clockwise = harder/slower through the stroke!
Thanks for mentioning that Eric. I think that is where most people get lost a bit.
Yes thats true! I totally understand your doubt! I should have mentioned that in the video ,its probably a common misconception (or general poor choice of words on my part xD)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I will take the opportunity to say that your videos are still very entertaining! My wife who overheard said it sounded almost like a parody, but in a good way 😊
@@Greblit "a parody but in a good way", ahaha :D
I try to make things light and entertaining, im glad you enjoy it ^^
Well done, I realy like your suspension related videos a lot, they help to understand the suspension system better and how to match them better to personal needs. Keep up your great work!
Thank you for always watching and commenting my stuff :D
Watched all 4 of your suspension videos after coming across this one. Liked all of them and subscribed to the channel.
Buying your off-road course even just as a big thank you for all the great and clear info on this topic (but looking forward to improving my skills watching them, applying tips and doing suggested excursuses).
I have done a prepayment for Norden 901 expedition after 10 years on 4 wheels only (last bike was a 2010 Z1000) and want to really know all the ins and outs about it. Already read all the manual and watched quite a few of great off road tutorial videos… I used to own Yamaha TTR-125LW as my first serious bike (after owning a 3-gears 50cc moped for a few years), so had some pretty good off road experience before getting to roads at age of 16 with a Honda CB400SF… Of course back than there was no great youtube tutorials out there… I think it was only with the Z1000 when I bought some books about motorcycle riding…
Anyway:)
Thanks a ton, brother!🤝
Ride safe everyone, have fun and great learning times!👍
I don't care too much about all this, because my bike has only preload adjustment, but I watched your video with great interest, because I like your videos so much! :)
Another great suspension related video! This kinda completes the previous ones (on the T7). Keep up the good work!
I think I did a much better job simplifying how you can find your own settings this time :D
Thank you for wathcing João!
people make suspension far more complicated than it actually is , it really isnt that complicated especially on this bike that has fewer adjustments than the other ktm's ive had , unfortunately , this series does a good job of explaining
I agree... People assume that only a professional can tune suspensions and that they will mess up if they try.... Its so easy to reset the suspension back to factory settings that you can do all the experiments you want even if you dont understand anything about it :D
@@OFFroadOFFcourse i read a book decades ago now called "the suspension bible" i think from Race Tech and some of the details may have changed but the basic function has not , spring=oil=valveing , movement of oil through valve slows down (dampens) action of spring
@@OFFroadOFFcourse yes always start at standard settings and go from there , i may be OCD but i keep track on a little tablet and write down the clicks this way or that and what i felt about the result ect .........
@@justsomedude445 Thanks to my friend John I have access to that "bible"...it is indeed the bible of suspensions. Suoer interesting read (didnt read it completely yet though :( )
@@OFFroadOFFcourse LoL havent looked at it in a while now but read through parts of it several times over , notes in margins oily finger prints tattered pages ect
if your rebound is more slow than your compression your suspension will pack (getting shorter and shorter) when moving over uneven surfaces - allways make sure that the rebound is faster than the compression - you can also observe that is the case when following one of the many stock recommendations
You should usually feel rear more, most of your weight and movement is supported by rear shock, forks ull feel mostly on hands
That helped me out a ton, especially since I am planning on buying the Norden's slightly crazier brother, the 890 Adventure R.
I have the 790 adv R and is just more aggressive on suspension settings but is the same way to adjust. Good video
@@KIM_AdventureExplorer thanks for the heads up! I figured they would both use pretty similar WP setups. I'd consider a Norden, but the 890R is just so deliciously aggressive. Plus, I live about 5 minutes from a KTM dealer!
@@apancher if you see my channel you understand that 790/890 is pretty more aggressive. I tested in a video the norden and I think is more soft in suspension setting and engine erogation
Thank you for the video. I was considering buying the KTM 890r just because the fork dive is so extreme on the norden, but now that I know you can fix that, I would much rather have the full fairing for touring. I will be purchasing the norden expedition. Thank you again.
Forgot to mention very important fact - shock rebound almost always also affects compression damping.
So by adjusting rebound you affect overall damping, not just rebound unfortunately
This helped a lot man, thanks.
Awesome! Glad to know Dennis ^^
I have the 790 adv R and is just more aggressive on suspension settings but is the same way to adjust. Good video
Amazing video like always, lots of information with a slice of humor. And also very usefull, I was having a hard time with the shock, and you gave me the nice ideia of trying to increase suspension travel by going for preload, I still think the shock is to soft and I dont even travel with a passanger ... but will try to think outside the box like you and see if i find a goldie locks zone with the oem .
Thank you André! Tell me if you got any good results ;)
Hi there. I will be picking up my Norden in a few weeks. That said, I noted down your suspension settings, but I didn't catch your weight. Care to share? Thanks.
I am ~84kg with all the gear on...quite a feather weight :o
thank you for the video :) which crashbars are on the Norden? they look awesome.
Hey there :) the crashbars are from crosspro
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thank you very much :) I like droptesting the 901.. a lot. so they would prove ueful. cheers!
@@stavrozinio Its important to drop test the bike from time to time...eveyone knows that :D
Here in Portugal we have a saying: "To become a good rider, one must crash at least 7.5 times"
Its an old saying about riding horses...i guess when it comes to motorcycles it should be "7.5 times... a month"
Great video again !
Great video, very helpful…would you mind letting me know what crash bars your are using on the Norden in the video?
Actually I think the answer is covered in another comment….thanks 😊
Brilliant intro!🤣🤣
What crash bars are you using mate?
Thank you! 👍
Useful thanks
Viva Diogo, parabéns pelo excelente conteúdo com que nos presenteias. Utilizas 1.6bar nos dois pneus mesmo em estrada? Como se comporta em velocidades mais elevadas?
What upper crash bars are you using please?
Can you tell me the maker of the engine protection bars on the Norden. I have look at many different makes but I like this design on your bike and would like to get a set of upper and lower bars.
Hey! They are from crosspro (the front ones) :)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Thank you
like for doing the stairs
Now I just need to work up the courage to touch my suspension.
You dont need to be afraid...whatever you do, if it doesn't work you can set it back to the "standart" settings in 5minutes (just look atht the table under the seat :) )
You point to empty air when you say to watch the video on tire pressure 😉
Ótimo, agora só preciso de uma moto que tenha ajuste de suspensão dianteira kkk.
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