Funny how Henry VIII was so obsessed with legacy and having a male heir but it were the women in his life that were more powerful than him and his youngest daughter became a greater ruler than him. I just got a book about iconic women in British history and it included a section about Elizabeth I. She was truly an icon
Irony at it's finest. He was so obsessed with having a male heir and it was his daughters that would go down in history one a bloody queen and the other that would lead England into a new age.
@@EliKat94 Why do we only see one side? Perhaps his formative females in his life were just that more than anything that could follow and he had no idea how to equal the two.
@@brandijade7063 technically he wanted a son so that the Tudor line would survive. The line died with Elizabeth but because of her england was on its way to becoming one of the greatest nations.
The book that is referenced by Philippa Gregory Three Sisters, Three Queens is one of the best books around. The stories of these women is fascinating and amazing.
She lived having what belonged to her constantly stripped and then the whole pregnancy thing. No wonder she wanted to take the throne, I don’t blame her.
And you have to bear in mind that in the medieval, women weren't als mature as quickly. Girls with 13 nowadays are way more mature bodywise, because of hormones of birth control in drinking water.
Lolol New age really what new age the whole Spanish Armada was a lie, if you heard of the English Armada Elizabeth lost More ships and sailor's then the king of Spain because they were amateurs and there was no victory only a cease fire, her favorite pirate was Sir Francis Drake he was a slave trader after all by kidnapping Africans away from there homes who also played a part of sexual assaults and murder, her so-called golden age was nothing more then pure fantasy like Chris Kyle of American sniper, and the Tudor dynasty was dead the moment Queen Mary I of England passed, Elizabeth was nothing more then a walking corpse
I feel like people villainize Margaret Beaufort as a mean old witch who planned to have her son on the throne but in reality she had no idea that she would be the mother of a king and grandmother of a king and a great grandma of a queen she just happened to make a gamble with her son and it worked out
Elizabeth Woodville gave birth to three daughters before she gave her husband the heir. But King Edward IV was more patient than his grandson. Sadly, their sons died young (2 boys murdered, one died at age of 2)
The reason why I was a meanie is because know one cared about me when my mum died. I was the new heir but know one really knew me. My dad was abusive to me; making me abusive to everyone
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 A *meanie*? Really? No. Pull Margaret or Mary's hair and you're a meanie. But chopping the heads off of a coupla wives, to say nothing of some chancellors and priests (or did you burn the priests?) yeah, all that, that's an order of magnitude step up from meanie, thou syphilitic, purulent bunt-cased fitch.
Margaret Beaufort is just an absolute calculating bad ass. She had to have her child at 13, but she took being a mother as seriously as an adult. She made sure she was doing everything she could to ensure a prosperous future for her son and his heirs.
I worked with a 20 year old woman who married a 60 year old man! She said she was excited about the marriage but I think she had no choice because of her culture and just tried to make herself feel better about it!
@@cindychristian1700 My 6th Great Grandfather William Walker married an 18 year old girl, Jane Burton when he was 75 years old nope....she wasn't my 6th Great Grandmother William's first wife, Mary was my 6th Great Grandmother This happened in Virginia William and Jane had a few kids, but I wonder if any of them were actually his.
Henry VIII was very close to his Mom. I wonder if she'd lived until he was an adult, if things would have been different... Would Henry have been a kinder, more tolerant monarch. From the age of 12 until age 18, he missed out on having a loving Mother & his Dad was rather cold & lacking in affection...
At the very least Henry wouldn't have ever married Catherine. Elizabeth was vehemently opposed to the idea and even told her husband to marry Catherine when she died so that she and Henry wouldn't be able to marry. Elizabeth was the main driving force behind Arthur and Catherine's betrothal. She was also a devote catholic and was absolutely disgusted by the idea of her second son marring her first son's widow, even with the chance of a papal dispensation. And Henry valued his mother's opinions so much that he very rarely went against her. He continually disobeyed his father, but he folded like a cheap suit when it came to his mother.
The king loved his wife and was as a mamas boy. That was ok, because he was also an amazing king. His coldness grew after his wife died, and his mother did more child-rearing than he did. Margaret Beaufort was a protective and proactive mother, even more so as a grandmother. First to secure her families legacy, second to protect it. To young Henry VIII, who never wanted to be king, resisted his fate and the restrictions placed on him as the only heir.
@@wvmountaingirl1976 her 3rd son, George, with Edward, died at the age of 2 from natural causes. The 3 I mention died as a direct result of the in-laws scheming.
It’s crazy how insane these family dynamics were back then… the thirst for power leading to brothers and close cousins killing eachother. Elizabeth’s reign really did bring a long period of relative stability for awhile before the Stuarts and eventual Civil War of course.
Dude I can't imagine how scared Margret was when she gave birth. The hell was her husband thinking when he got a THIRTEEN year old pregnant?! Edit: Shout-out to Savage Darksider (I give shoutouts to people who piss me off)
I know they’re more like historical fiction but I watched the TV series The White Queen and The White Princess which talks about the wars of the roses and features these queens. It was super interesting to see how much of a role these women potentially played during the wars of the roses!
If you like those shows you should watch The Tudors. That show is more about Henry VIII, but several queens and other women have important roles there too.
@@nixielee I’ve seen the Tudors as well, I loved it even though some of it wasn’t accurate. I also really enjoyed The Spanish Princess which is about Henry VIII’s first wife, Catherine of Aragon
phillipa gregory, should do a tv series, about the * rose of raby, duchess cecily neville... wife to Richard Duke of York- Lord protector of england and mother to ..Kings edward IV,Richard III of York... Grandmother to King Edward V, * Prince Richard in the tower & Queen Elizabeth of York Great Grandmother to King Henry VIII, Queen Magaret of Scotland and Great Great Grandmother to King Edward VI, Queen Jane, Queen Mary tudour, Queen Elizabeth I also aunty to Earl of Warwick* neville , the richest magnate in england, and related to all lancastrians, yorkists and other branches via Edward III King of England...
Ha! Well, ladies... or should I say Queens, while I do really like you, your mother & grandmother, Jacquetta Woodville is my favorite! If I'd heard of her before having my girls, one would definitely be named Jacquetta. (I think they are all very grateful they dodge that bullet!)
@@elizabethofyork3987 no. The attention always went to Arthur. No one even liked me when I was little. That effected me to my death. If you were alive then you would’ve helped me rule but you were gone too soon. I failed the Tudor Dynasty :(
YAS QUEENS They were strong women and they led England to what it is today Elizabeth Woodville Margaret Beaufort Elizabeth of York These are true queens along with Mary I and Elizabeth I along with their mothers
All three of these women are powerhouses in their own right and making the way for their children. @LindsayHoliday please make more interesting queens of Europe videos! Keep them coming!
As someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, it doesn't surprise me in the least to hear Henry VIII may have had it. TBH, I'd be surprised if any monarchs (and nobles) didn't have a cluster B personality disorder in general. I'm not sure if any of them would've survived long or even gained power without some of the qualities that often come with them. Manipulation and grandiose thinking is certainly not helpful today, but back then idk how anyone could survive without that.
They didn't get their positions they were born into them so grandiose was in their blood as opposed to being needed to get to the top like might be the case today. A lot of them were also feebleminded and had to rely on the sociopaths around them to either do them in or tell them what to do. So I don't think they all had cluster bpd. Some of them seem to have been pretty sane considering too. You cant really judge them all as having such a thing when they are all very different people ..
Thanks for the video! Great to see people speaking well of Margaret Beaufort at last. Just that her father John Beaufort did not die in battle: her uncle Edmund Beaufort was the head of the family and Queen Margaret of Anjou's military commander. He was killed in the 2nd Battle of St Albans. Margaret Beaufort's father was the longest kept prisoner of the 100 Years War. He was imprisoned for 17 years and acquired huge debt paying for his ransom. When he went back to France to fight and try to gain some extra income, he was accused of corruption and recalled to the court of Henry VI to explain himself. After this, he apparently committed suicide. Margaret inherited their entire estate and went under the wardship of the Duke of Suffolk. Also, it's quite unlikely that she fought all her life for her son to be king because he was far from the line of succession. When Richard of Gloucester moved against the Princes in the Tower, then the road was clear for them ;)
Currently reading The Lady Of The Rivers by Philippa Gregory, about Elizabeth Woodville’s mother, Jacquetta of Luxembourg. Can’t wait to read the others!
This was such a creative idea for a video. I never thought about the contrast between the matriarchal ladies before Henry III's time and his own treatment of his wives... I love your videos, keep up the good work!!!
Biblical names were the norm for royalty and the population in general lol. Elizabeth, Mary, Jane, Margaret, people just couldn’t be bothered coming up with new names
Do not forget some of these Elizabeths were named after their ancestors. Queen Elizabeth I was named after her grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II after her mother, as was Elizabeth of York. So these names kept coming up, not randomly, but kind of hereditary!
Yes, I feel sad about what she went through as a child and then having her child taken away from her to live seperately. However she was without doubt ruthlessly ambitious
Everyone around her at the time felt sorry for her, too. She was under the age of consent, even in that time. A special midwife from far away was requested for her upcoming birth, because everyone was so concerned about her young age. Her ex-husband is mostly remembered in history for ignoring the rule to wait until she was 15 or so.
I have, but I love early Tudor history and honestly Philip Gregory treated those amazing strong women like trash and it drove me crazy. She reduced them to stereotypes of evil women and the rape victim. (Btw Henry the 7nth and Elizabeth of York where happily in love)
@@j.a.m5083 YES, she managed to make them look as if they had only one personality trait, I read The White Queen and The Red Queen with blood tears coming from my eyes
Lindsey this was amazing! Could you please cover other women from the war of the Roses as well. I'd love detailed biographies on Margaret of Anjou, Anne and Isabel Neville, Cecily Neville maybe?
@@SungSNam yeah! Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, Margaret of Anjou and Anne Neville were also queen consorts and were mentioned in the consort series. But I'd still like more comprehensive videos like this one, focusing on Margaret of Anjou whom I find pretty badass, as well as Anne Neville and her sister Isabel Neville (she wasn't a queen consort).
Visited St. George's Chapel, Windsor and went specifically for Elizabeth Wydeville's tomb. A distant grandmother, her personal and family story is one of absolute Courage and great interest. Thank you for your research.
They are more interesting, strategic, scheming and sensible whereas he didn't do much but enjoy the fruits of their labour and was too preoccupied on getting women and treating them poorly
I think if you read about British monarchy you become more interested in them than the king. I am American but obsessed with British history. I’ve been to London 2x and I could not get enough of the royal sites, I need to go back
Henry Viii grew up thinking women were too weak to rule and desperately wanted a male heir. Yet his daughter reined 9 years longer than he did. Talk about a slap in the face.
@Oritra Kar The question was not whether women could transfer claims to the throne (that issue was 'settled' when King Stephen & Henry II both became king via their mother's ancestry). The question was whether a woman could rule in her own right. Generally speaking, the rule applied in England was 'through, but not to;' Henry II became king thru Empress Matilda, but she was barred due to her gender. Henry VII became king *thru* Margaret Beaufort, but no one believed Margaret would have been able to rule on her own. Henry VIII was anxious about leaving only female heirs, since they could be easily passed-over in favour of male cousins (which still existed; the Courtenay descendants of Cecily of York, Elizabeth of York's sister, only went extinct in the reign of Bloody Mary). A son meant no controversy surrounding the succession, relatively speaking. Now, that wasn't the way things turned out, but no one could have known that at the time. There was little controversy surrounding Mary's ascension b/c by that point every single potential heir was a woman (her half-sister Elizabeth, Mary, queen of Scots, Margaret Douglas, Jane, Catherine, & Mary Grey, & Margaret Clifford). The only exception was Henry Stuart, lord Darnley, who was only about 2 years old, arguably a Scot, & not genealogically very senior. In that case, the King's eldest daughter (who many thought had already been unfairly passed-over already, if they were Catholic) had resounding support. But things could have played out *very* differently...
Henry had been raised on no doubt trumped-up and biased tales of the wars of the roses, and how his dynasty ended this bloody conflict, so naturally he was obsessed with continuing his dynasty as its last remaining heir, and since daughters are dynastically useless and women’s roles at the time, especially royal women, was making sons, and failing to do so was, in Henry’s eyes, failing to fulfil their duties. That, combined with the head injury, meant that they no longer deserved their role
Honestly to me is so funny that Margaret Beaufort (known for her faith and modesty) own grandson dismantled all connections to the Catholic Church and the Pope, lived a live of ´´sin`` and managed to have 6 wifes
As much as I respect Phillipa Gregory as a story teller, I wouldn't take her word as gospel truth. For instance there's no evidence that Margaret had anything to do with The Princes's disappearance. And the way she portrays the female characters is really unlikeable.
"Caught in the brambles of the Wars of the Roses..." Girl, that was a brilliant line. A couple of things: 1) The Duke of York's head with its paper crown was spiked at the gates of the city of York (not the Tower of London), along with his brother-in-law and son. 2) Jacquetta and Richard Woodville were not forgiven their marriage because of Queen Margaret; Margaret married Henry years later. 3) Margaret Beaufort's father John Duke of Somerset was not killed in battle. He died in England and his death may have been a suicide after his badly failed military exploits, although he had been sick during the last year. Btw, The knight who won the ruby ring from newly crowned Elizabeth Woodville was Sir Thomas Stanley, who was stepfather to Henry Tudor (VII), son-in-law to Elizabeth Woodville. Thank you for your phrasing in the aftermath of Edward IV's death, specifically that the Dowager Queen and her family did not trust Gloucester and sought to protect the young king. It's rare to hear Elizabeth's actions couched as anything but pure ambition.
Being the only surviving son and heir to the Tudor dynasty made him insane for a son. All his life he aimed for a male heir, ruining all his marriages. I wonder how things would have been different if he had brothers after him securing the throne.
for those of you who read Thomas B Costain's histories of the royals of England are definitely worth hunting out and reading. The Conquering Family, The Magnificent Century, The Three Edwards, and The Last Plantagenets cover from Henry II to Richard III with a nudge at the end into HenryVII... he was one of the first to counter in a popular history, the Shakespearean portrait of R III, and to suggest that perhaps Margaret may have had cause to bump off her nephews
I am watching The White Queen now and was curious about her relationship to Henry VIII, thank you for a wonderful video explaining the somewhat complex family tree!
You forgot the letter found in the National Archives, written in 1511 from the ambassador to Venice “that the Queen Mother, wife of King Edward, died of plague, and the King is disturbed.” It somewhat explains the lackluster funeral and burial of Queen Elizabeth Woodville, as to prevent her daughters, grandchildren, Woodville nieces, and other attendants from becoming infected and spreading the disease to their families and the Royal court.
Lindsay. Dear. Small problem. That picture.... the third woman is Anne Neville, not Elizabeth of York. (I realize you were probably wanting to use one picture and there weren’t any of those three specifically together, but I know that series like the back of my hand hahaha.)
Thanks for this great video. I am a direct descendant of English aristocrat and immigrant Capt. Charles Barham of Virginia, great nephew of royal governor Sir Samuel Argall. Through the Argall family, we are descendants of Sir John Pashley and his wife Elizabeth Woodville, paternal aunt of Queen Elizabeth Woodville. I loved the background on the Queen and some insight into her personality.
Your videos are an absolute treat because you pick the most wonderful images to illustrate with from contemporary portraits to preraphaelite imaginings you just pick the best pictures. What's your secret
Richard, Duke of York’s head was displayed on Micklegate Bar in York after the Battle of Wakefield in 1460 not on the Tower of London. The heads of his 17 year old son Edmund, Earl of Rutland and his brother in law Richard, Earl of Salisbury were also displayed. King Edward IV later exhumed the body of his father and brought it from Pontefract to Fotheringhay for reinternment.
I think it’s a combination of the Rose Wars history, his brother’s death, and Henry’s jostling accident that changed his personality to become so brutal. The Rise Wars was initially started likely when King Stephen was fighting for the crown against Queen Matilda because Matilda was the only legitimate heir to take her father’s place. It sparked a distrust in securing the line with women, as much as Matilda fought for her place, Stephen beat her to the throne and started a conflict that would finally resolved when Henry’s father the VII defeated the common enemy Richard III. And then Henry witnessed the hope that was on his brother’s shoulders fade when he suddenly died, making the VII anxious about keeping security in the new dynasty. The reason I think that the jostling accident accelerated yet was just a part of Henry’s mindset was that initially Henry really got along with his first wife Catherine. It wasn’t until time went by and only their daughter Mary was survivor and the only heir that Henry started looking at other options, being open to looking at other women to help his situation. It seems accounts can verify that there was a difference Henry before and after his jousting accident that contributed to his tyrant attitude toward his wives. It’s really sad how he was related to so many strong and beyond capable women, yet he made reckless decisions to avoid having a daughter take the throne, only for BOTH daughters eventually take the throne. The irony is that it’s his youngest daughter that becomes the most iconic and highly favorable monarch, I’d argue, in human history. More favorable than his reign, even though both had highs in the welfare of the people, Henry’s attitude towards his marriages and religion stains his reputation.
To everyone who enjoys these types of stories I highly recommend Rebecca Gablé's wonderful novel Fortune's Wheel. It's the first in a series of 6 (and counting - fingers crossed) about the fictional English noble family of Waringham throughout the middle ages and the Tudor era. Sadly, Fortune's Wheel is the only book in the series which has been translated into English (Gablé is a professor for English mediaeval studies - i.e. she knows what she's writing about - who publishes her novels in German) but if enough people buy the first book, I'm sure they'd continue translating the series. The second book's title loosely translates to 'The Keepers of the Rose" and covers the events of this video - Henry VI's mental illness, Catherine of Valois' and Owen Tudor's scandalous relationship, their son Edmund's and Margaret Beaufort's marriage and Henry VII's conquest of the throne of England. It's an absolute page-turner.
The War of the Roses reminds me of my ancestors family feud. My parents are both from Bangladesh and the neighbourhood where my dad was from disliked the neighbourhood my mum was from and to this day I really don’t know why. I believe it was due to them competing or something like that. Anyways as a result my dad married my mum to solve the issue and kinda unite the people. My parents had me as the only son out of 5 kids. Idk why but I feel honoured lol and it just reminds of the War of the Roses and how Henry VII married Elizabeth of York to end the War of the Roses
Oh, even if he'd foreseen the future and known about Gloriana and the Elizabethan Age, he'd still have raged about her dying childless, without even *trying*.
I think so as well he would not have wanted Elizabeth to be Queen ruling by herself and would have encouraged her to marry giving away her rights as ruler to who she married and if she turned out to not have a son she would have been blamed heck he would have been personally arranging her marriages and promising her off to whomever he saw fit so for his daughter she was most likely fortunate that he passed when he had
So enjoyed your rapid narration of Tudor history. Especially the accompanying paintings and visual depictions of history, which made it so much more interesting than just reading or even listening. What a fascinating collection of art. G.
Had his mother been alive during Henry VIII’s reign, she would have been able to moderate his behaviour and possibly stand in for him as monarch whenever he has his fits. Men usually fear their mamas more than anyone so…
Too bad Henry VIII couldn't see into the future, then he would have known that his daughter with Anne, as Queen Elizabeth was the great *KING* and heir he so desperately desired.
What a trio! Anyone would be most fortunate to have as personal supporters for themselves! Other than Elizabeth 1, a bright and hopeful beginning for the Tudor legacy! But then...
Borderline Personality Disorder??? Seriously. There is no way someone can diagnose King Henry VIII with Borderline personality disorder. That is just riduculous
In regards to Margaret Beaufort’s infertility, I heard a theory that she was left so traumatized by the birth that she only agreed to marry her third and fourth husbands on the condition they don’t have sex. I don’t know how true that is but I wouldn’t be surprised.
I don’t think that’s true. Her third (or second, depends who you ask) marriage to Stafford was long and reportedly very happy, and her third marriage was very politically important. In this period, a non consummated marriage was not binding, and a man had sexual rights to his wife and she had no right to say no: the idea that two relatively young men would agree to enter into a sexless marriage with a wealthy woman and then not secure her wealth via consummation is unthinkable. Most likely, birth at such a young age left Margaret permanently infertile, as is often the case. More children would have most definitely been in Margaret’s best interests, and she wouldn’t have had a say in it either way
I just want to let you know, that in the picture of the series "The white queen" the woman, that stands besides the throne is not Elizabeth of York, but Anne Neville, daughter of Lord Richard Neville, and later wife of Richard III and queen of England . In the series she is called "the kingmakes daughter"
Funny how Henry VIII was so obsessed with legacy and having a male heir but it were the women in his life that were more powerful than him and his youngest daughter became a greater ruler than him. I just got a book about iconic women in British history and it included a section about Elizabeth I. She was truly an icon
Irony at it's finest. He was so obsessed with having a male heir and it was his daughters that would go down in history one a bloody queen and the other that would lead England into a new age.
@@EliKat94 Why do we only see one side? Perhaps his formative females in his life were just that more than anything that could follow and he had no idea how to equal the two.
@@brandijade7063 technically he wanted a son so that the Tudor line would survive. The line died with Elizabeth but because of her england was on its way to becoming one of the greatest nations.
My nieces were amazing monarchs!
The book that is referenced by Philippa Gregory Three Sisters, Three Queens is one of the best books around. The stories of these women is fascinating and amazing.
Poor Margaret Beaufort, having to bear a pregnancy at 13. These women endured so much in silence.
She lived having what belonged to her constantly stripped and then the whole pregnancy thing. No wonder she wanted to take the throne, I don’t blame her.
Margaret Beaufort was a politically savvy manipulative screaming schemer. She was not silent before or after her son's accession to the throne.
@@jacquiepittet1757 Well, she had to if she and her son wanted to stay alive.
And you have to bear in mind that in the medieval, women weren't als mature as quickly. Girls with 13 nowadays are way more mature bodywise, because of hormones of birth control in drinking water.
Lolol New age really what new age the whole Spanish Armada was a lie, if you heard of the English Armada Elizabeth lost More ships and sailor's then the king of Spain because they were amateurs and there was no victory only a cease fire, her favorite pirate was Sir Francis Drake he was a slave trader after all by kidnapping Africans away from there homes who also played a part of sexual assaults and murder, her so-called golden age was nothing more then pure fantasy like Chris Kyle of American sniper, and the Tudor dynasty was dead the moment Queen Mary I of England passed, Elizabeth was nothing more then a walking corpse
I feel like people villainize Margaret Beaufort as a mean old witch who planned to have her son on the throne but in reality she had no idea that she would be the mother of a king and grandmother of a king and a great grandma of a queen she just happened to make a gamble with her son and it worked out
All these women were powerful and strong in their own way and it's amazing what they did to survive
@Madeline Dixon Hello. How are you doing?
Elizabeth Woodville gave birth to three daughters before she gave her husband the heir. But King Edward IV was more patient than his grandson. Sadly, their sons died young (2 boys murdered, one died at age of 2)
The reason why I was a meanie is because know one cared about me when my mum died. I was the new heir but know one really knew me. My dad was abusive to me; making me abusive to everyone
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@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 A *meanie*? Really? No. Pull Margaret or Mary's hair and you're a meanie. But chopping the heads off of a coupla wives, to say nothing of some chancellors and priests (or did you burn the priests?) yeah, all that, that's an order of magnitude step up from meanie, thou syphilitic, purulent bunt-cased fitch.
Edward IV had two brothers that could take the throne if he died without sons
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 you're not meanie... You're awful
When you're getting divorced at age 2, it's all downhill from there. 😁
Marriages just don't last like they used to.
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Like who would get married at 2
@@ellewilc80 Hello. How are you doing?
LOL 😆 lol
Margaret Beaufort is just an absolute calculating bad ass. She had to have her child at 13, but she took being a mother as seriously as an adult. She made sure she was doing everything she could to ensure a prosperous future for her son and his heirs.
Killing people
she was forced to have a rape baby, it changed her
Elizabeth’s brother marrying Warwick’s mother is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. I love history.
Ditto😂😂😂
Warwick’s aunt, not mother
Aunt.
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Oh god Margaret was 12 when she had to Marry 25 yr old Edmund n he got her pregnant at 13 n widowed . I am so thankful I'm born in this era rn
I worked with a 20 year old woman who married a 60 year old man! She said she was excited about the marriage but I think she had no choice because of her culture and just tried to make herself feel better about it!
@@cindychristian1700
My 6th Great Grandfather William Walker married an 18 year old girl, Jane Burton when he was 75 years old
nope....she wasn't my 6th Great Grandmother
William's first wife, Mary was my 6th Great Grandmother
This happened in Virginia
William and Jane had a few kids, but I wonder if any of them were actually his.
@@fomalhauto Me too!🤔😆
Henry VIII was very close to his Mom. I wonder if she'd lived until he was an adult, if things would have been different... Would Henry have been a kinder, more tolerant monarch. From the age of 12 until age 18, he missed out on having a loving Mother & his Dad was rather cold & lacking in affection...
His father was kinder then he was.
At the very least Henry wouldn't have ever married Catherine. Elizabeth was vehemently opposed to the idea and even told her husband to marry Catherine when she died so that she and Henry wouldn't be able to marry. Elizabeth was the main driving force behind Arthur and Catherine's betrothal. She was also a devote catholic and was absolutely disgusted by the idea of her second son marring her first son's widow, even with the chance of a papal dispensation. And Henry valued his mother's opinions so much that he very rarely went against her. He continually disobeyed his father, but he folded like a cheap suit when it came to his mother.
@@shewolfroux6091 true
The king loved his wife and was as a mamas boy. That was ok, because he was also an amazing king. His coldness grew after his wife died, and his mother did more child-rearing than he did. Margaret Beaufort was a protective and proactive mother, even more so as a grandmother. First to secure her families legacy, second to protect it. To young Henry VIII, who never wanted to be king, resisted his fate and the restrictions placed on him as the only heir.
I didn’t realize Elizabeth Woodville had two children from a previous marriage. So she lost three of her sons behind her in-laws BS
4, one of Gray's & 3 of Edward's
@@wvmountaingirl1976 her 3rd son, George, with Edward, died at the age of 2 from natural causes. The 3 I mention died as a direct result of the in-laws scheming.
The survivor, Thomas Grey, Marquis of Dorset was the ancestor of Lady Jane Grey.
Read your history
@@lucieelizabethannwesson7016 what’s this even mean??
It’s crazy how insane these family dynamics were back then… the thirst for power leading to brothers and close cousins killing eachother. Elizabeth’s reign really did bring a long period of relative stability for awhile before the Stuarts and eventual Civil War of course.
My Yorkie dog loves Elizabeth of York. He thinks she was his cousin.
My mama and grandmamas were the greatest people in this world
They were
I know my child
@@elizabethofyork3987 Love u mama. Gone too soon, Father was beating me up :(
And you were one of the worst. Congratulations on ruining the Tudor family name
@@kawaiipotato7775 This is a nicer henry btw
Listening to this in the gym as I make sure that I don’t end up the size of Henry VIII after lockdown ends 😂😂
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LMBO... Or George IV...
Lmao
😂😂😂 it’s doubtful anybody could eat the way Henry VIII ate lol. This is a wonderful history ❤️
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Ah yes, I love my mother and grandmothers-in-law!
How are you your majesty
@@jessicamorton6081 Good.
Hi my sweet rose
You have never even seen Elizabeth Woodville but ok
Hello my sweet catherine
Dude I can't imagine how scared Margret was when she gave birth.
The hell was her husband thinking when he got a THIRTEEN year old pregnant?!
Edit: Shout-out to Savage Darksider
(I give shoutouts to people who piss me off)
Yes, truly sad...
@@ianbat7092 Boo !
@@savagedarksider5934Tucker what?
@@savagedarksider5934 Excuse me? Don’t say that to one of the greatest wives Henry has ever had!
Hello Catherine 1 and Catherine 2
I know they’re more like historical fiction but I watched the TV series The White Queen and The White Princess which talks about the wars of the roses and features these queens. It was super interesting to see how much of a role these women potentially played during the wars of the roses!
If you like those shows you should watch The Tudors. That show is more about Henry VIII, but several queens and other women have important roles there too.
@@nixielee I’ve seen the Tudors as well, I loved it even though some of it wasn’t accurate. I also really enjoyed The Spanish Princess which is about Henry VIII’s first wife, Catherine of Aragon
phillipa gregory, should do a tv series, about the * rose of raby, duchess cecily neville...
wife to Richard Duke of York- Lord protector of england and mother to ..Kings edward IV,Richard III of York...
Grandmother to King Edward V, * Prince Richard in the tower & Queen Elizabeth of York
Great Grandmother to King Henry VIII, Queen Magaret of Scotland and Great Great Grandmother to King Edward VI, Queen Jane, Queen Mary tudour, Queen Elizabeth I
also aunty to Earl of Warwick* neville , the richest magnate in england, and related to all lancastrians, yorkists and other branches via Edward III King of England...
@@nixielee i quickly lost interest in it after anne boleyn (natalie dormer) died. it's just isn't the same without her :/
Gregory takes a *lot* of creative liberties for the sake of drama and story telling, so I'd take her work with a pinch of salt.
Elizabeth Woodville and Elizabeth of York, love both of these fascinating and beautiful Queens! 💖
Thank you 💗
Aren’t you so sweet 💖
Lol
Ha! Well, ladies... or should I say Queens, while I do really like you, your mother & grandmother, Jacquetta Woodville is my favorite! If I'd heard of her before having my girls, one would definitely be named Jacquetta. (I think they are all very grateful they dodge that bullet!)
Me too
I am a niece , daughter , sister , wife and mother of the kings
Greatest, Generous, Fabulous, Kindest, Mother of me :D Im only like this because dad abused me etc
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 have you seen him ? . I'm going to scold him
@@elizabethofyork3987 no. The attention always went to Arthur. No one even liked me when I was little. That effected me to my death. If you were alive then you would’ve helped me rule but you were gone too soon. I failed the Tudor Dynasty :(
Grandmother too
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 I'm very sorry bout you dad . I'm gonna teach him a lesson if I found him
I saw the notification on my phone and I RAN FOR THE LAPTOP IF MY LIFE DEPENDED ON IT
How are you my fellow royal mediator
@@SungSNam I'm fine Kaiya how about you
@@kawaiipotato7775 good, just watching out for potential royal crisis
@@kawaiipotato7775 Hi dear subject ill make you duke of Leeds
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 How about Cornwall? I want them moneyzz
Henry the 8 gets 6 wives and everybody pays attention to him, but Ivan the Terrible has 6 wives and nobody gives a shit. SMH kits these days...😞
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
IMAO
BAHHAHAHAH
Poor overlooked Ivan the terrible...😁
This is my favorite time period and the reason why I fell in love with history.
Mine too, the white queen started it all.
Damn I can't believe there was a time when I wanted to study English language and literature at the college because of all this chaotic history lol
YAS QUEENS
They were strong women and they led England to what it is today
Elizabeth Woodville
Margaret Beaufort
Elizabeth of York
These are true queens along with Mary I and Elizabeth I along with their mothers
who's Margaret boutford?
I thought we we're talking about Margaret Beaufort
I misspelled her last name my bad
Margaret Beaufort still wasn’t a queen.. only mother to, and created her own title.
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Lady Margaret Beaufort was King Henry Vll 's mother
Queen Anne Boleyn , Elizabeth I
All three of these women are powerhouses in their own right and making the way for their children. @LindsayHoliday please make more interesting queens of Europe videos! Keep them coming!
As someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, it doesn't surprise me in the least to hear Henry VIII may have had it. TBH, I'd be surprised if any monarchs (and nobles) didn't have a cluster B personality disorder in general. I'm not sure if any of them would've survived long or even gained power without some of the qualities that often come with them. Manipulation and grandiose thinking is certainly not helpful today, but back then idk how anyone could survive without that.
They didn't get their positions they were born into them so grandiose was in their blood as opposed to being needed to get to the top like might be the case today. A lot of them were also feebleminded and had to rely on the sociopaths around them to either do them in or tell them what to do. So I don't think they all had cluster bpd. Some of them seem to have been pretty sane considering too. You cant really judge them all as having such a thing when they are all very different people ..
Thanks for the video! Great to see people speaking well of Margaret Beaufort at last. Just that her father John Beaufort did not die in battle: her uncle Edmund Beaufort was the head of the family and Queen Margaret of Anjou's military commander. He was killed in the 2nd Battle of St Albans. Margaret Beaufort's father was the longest kept prisoner of the 100 Years War. He was imprisoned for 17 years and acquired huge debt paying for his ransom. When he went back to France to fight and try to gain some extra income, he was accused of corruption and recalled to the court of Henry VI to explain himself. After this, he apparently committed suicide. Margaret inherited their entire estate and went under the wardship of the Duke of Suffolk. Also, it's quite unlikely that she fought all her life for her son to be king because he was far from the line of succession. When Richard of Gloucester moved against the Princes in the Tower, then the road was clear for them ;)
22:37 I love how she said “murdered” instead of “beheaded”
Currently reading The Lady Of The Rivers by Philippa Gregory, about Elizabeth Woodville’s mother, Jacquetta of Luxembourg. Can’t wait to read the others!
They're absolutely wonderful💜
All brilliant books :)
Take them with a pinch of salt though as Gregory isn't known for being historically accurate.
@@isobelduncan Oh I know, I’m actually almost done with them now, I just finished The Taming Of The Queen about Katherine Parr.
What beautiful women. Such a shame, they left us too soon. They shall be remembered. Love you mother in law!
This was such a creative idea for a video. I never thought about the contrast between the matriarchal ladies before Henry III's time and his own treatment of his wives... I love your videos, keep up the good work!!!
It's interesting that so many women named Elizabeth play an important part in England royal history.
They only used a few names commonly, Elizabeth Ann Mary Catherine and Aethelfrytha😄
Biblical names were the norm for royalty and the population in general lol. Elizabeth, Mary, Jane, Margaret, people just couldn’t be bothered coming up with new names
Do not forget some of these Elizabeths were named after their ancestors. Queen Elizabeth I was named after her grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II after her mother, as was Elizabeth of York. So these names kept coming up, not randomly, but kind of hereditary!
@@hwbeute1 I mean yeah...my Aunt Beulah was the best but I'm not naming my kid that😄
@@lagatita1623 Agreed, but you're probably not trying to create and secure a royal dynasty ... Repetition was important to imprint heritage!
Ohhhhh, more about me? Yay
My favorite queen 👑
How's Great-Grandpa ( King Edward IV). Seen him around lately?
@@edwardviofengland8048 he is off hunting I think
@@queenelizabethwoodville8285 Lol tell him I said Hi
Hello Great grandmother in law!!!
I WAS SOOOOO HAPPY WHEN I SAW A LINDSAY POST 😄😄
KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK LINDSAY 👍
i've always felt bad for margaret beaufort having to get pregnant at such a young age!
me too, due to her age she could even be sister of her own son, she was so young
Yeah,sad to think that happened to her and other girls too
Without her son, the war
of roses may not end for another 100 years.. its all.fated, i guess... 😉
Yes, I feel sad about what she went through as a child and then having her child taken away from her to live seperately. However she was without doubt ruthlessly ambitious
Everyone around her at the time felt sorry for her, too. She was under the age of consent, even in that time. A special midwife from far away was requested for her upcoming birth, because everyone was so concerned about her young age. Her ex-husband is mostly remembered in history for ignoring the rule to wait until she was 15 or so.
Who else here has also watched the white queen and white princes🙋 p.s I love Philippa Gregory's novels
should watch the spanish princess as well
I have, but I love early Tudor history and honestly Philip Gregory treated those amazing strong women like trash and it drove me crazy. She reduced them to stereotypes of evil women and the rape victim. (Btw Henry the 7nth and Elizabeth of York where happily in love)
I’ve seen them all along with the tudors, loved every series
@@j.a.m5083 YES, she managed to make them look as if they had only one personality trait, I read The White Queen and The Red Queen with blood tears coming from my eyes
Hi Cleo 😉
Lindsey this was amazing! Could you please cover other women from the war of the Roses as well. I'd love detailed biographies on Margaret of Anjou, Anne and Isabel Neville, Cecily Neville maybe?
Wasn’t one of the consort vids about some of them?
@@SungSNam yeah! Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, Margaret of Anjou and Anne Neville were also queen consorts and were mentioned in the consort series. But I'd still like more comprehensive videos like this one, focusing on Margaret of Anjou whom I find pretty badass, as well as Anne Neville and her sister Isabel Neville (she wasn't a queen consort).
@@obsessivefangirl5055 yeah, so many interesting people in history!
8:15 It’s like the historic version of the lady yelling at a confused cat 🤣🤣🤣
TRUE
Haha 😂
???
At 17?!!! To a 44 year old?!!!! Eww! That’s gross!
Yeah, thank goodness that isn’t normal today.
Didya miss the fact that Margaret Beaufort was pregnant at 12?
Visited St. George's Chapel, Windsor and went specifically for Elizabeth Wydeville's tomb. A distant grandmother, her personal and family story is one of absolute Courage and great interest. Thank you for your research.
My far-related grandmothers. I am so amazed with how strong willed they were! I wish I saw them before they even died.
Sorry for what my daughter did to you :(
Hi Mary
Hi Mary!
Mary, I’m so sorry :(
@@queenelizabethiofengland7338 Hi gracious daughter
I never new that my niece and sister-in-law conspired against me
Are you listening to yourself Richard?!
Jokes on you
**whistles innocently**
interesante they say in espanol
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
Watching you type Spanish is so funny, Father x 😂😂
Tbh I find Henry VIII's parents, grandparents and great-grandparents more interesting. Why aren't they more well known?
Because so many people/media. etc., are so obsessed with Henry VIII and his six wives. I agree with you; people don't know what they're missing!
Because he was so terrible lol
Same!
They are more interesting, strategic, scheming and sensible whereas he didn't do much but enjoy the fruits of their labour and was too preoccupied on getting women and treating them poorly
I think if you read about British monarchy you become more interested in them than the king. I am American but obsessed with British history. I’ve been to London 2x and I could not get enough of the royal sites, I need to go back
I have the most claim to the throne more that henry . Btw I love you , my love
love
She actually did. She was an English princess whereas Henry VII was only an earl...
Your my favorite Queen ever Elizabeth!
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 have you seen your father ?
@@epcotethan9557 thank you darling
Henry Viii grew up thinking women were too weak to rule and desperately wanted a male heir.
Yet his daughter reined 9 years longer than he did. Talk about a slap in the face.
@Oritra Kar He became king because of women but treated women like things. Talk about ungrateful.
@Oritra Kar The question was not whether women could transfer claims to the throne (that issue was 'settled' when King Stephen & Henry II both became king via their mother's ancestry). The question was whether a woman could rule in her own right.
Generally speaking, the rule applied in England was 'through, but not to;' Henry II became king thru Empress Matilda, but she was barred due to her gender. Henry VII became king *thru* Margaret Beaufort, but no one believed Margaret would have been able to rule on her own.
Henry VIII was anxious about leaving only female heirs, since they could be easily passed-over in favour of male cousins (which still existed; the Courtenay descendants of Cecily of York, Elizabeth of York's sister, only went extinct in the reign of Bloody Mary). A son meant no controversy surrounding the succession, relatively speaking.
Now, that wasn't the way things turned out, but no one could have known that at the time. There was little controversy surrounding Mary's ascension b/c by that point every single potential heir was a woman (her half-sister Elizabeth, Mary, queen of Scots, Margaret Douglas, Jane, Catherine, & Mary Grey, & Margaret Clifford). The only exception was Henry Stuart, lord Darnley, who was only about 2 years old, arguably a Scot, & not genealogically very senior.
In that case, the King's eldest daughter (who many thought had already been unfairly passed-over already, if they were Catholic) had resounding support. But things could have played out *very* differently...
Henry had been raised on no doubt trumped-up and biased tales of the wars of the roses, and how his dynasty ended this bloody conflict, so naturally he was obsessed with continuing his dynasty as its last remaining heir, and since daughters are dynastically useless and women’s roles at the time, especially royal women, was making sons, and failing to do so was, in Henry’s eyes, failing to fulfil their duties. That, combined with the head injury, meant that they no longer deserved their role
Honestly to me is so funny that Margaret Beaufort (known for her faith and modesty) own grandson dismantled all connections to the Catholic Church and the Pope, lived a live of ´´sin`` and managed to have 6 wifes
Henrys curse is still around, the way the Catholics and Protests still have issues between the two. Henry was a curse.
Heyy Lindsay! Sorry to bring this up again but, where is my feature video? 😭
I don’t know, Cousin. You certainly deserve it though :(
I bet it will be soon. And I can’t wait to see your video and learn about your life!
@@lucifermorningstar-k2f yes she does
As much as I respect Phillipa Gregory as a story teller, I wouldn't take her word as gospel truth. For instance there's no evidence that Margaret had anything to do with The Princes's disappearance. And the way she portrays the female characters is really unlikeable.
She doesn't claim her stories to be the truth. They are classified as historical fiction.
@@michellewhite8673 She does in the FAQs on her website.
"Caught in the brambles of the Wars of the Roses..." Girl, that was a brilliant line.
A couple of things: 1) The Duke of York's head with its paper crown was spiked at the gates of the city of York (not the Tower of London), along with his brother-in-law and son. 2) Jacquetta and Richard Woodville were not forgiven their marriage because of Queen Margaret; Margaret married Henry years later. 3) Margaret Beaufort's father John Duke of Somerset was not killed in battle. He died in England and his death may have been a suicide after his badly failed military exploits, although he had been sick during the last year.
Btw, The knight who won the ruby ring from newly crowned Elizabeth Woodville was Sir Thomas Stanley, who was stepfather to Henry Tudor (VII), son-in-law to Elizabeth Woodville.
Thank you for your phrasing in the aftermath of Edward IV's death, specifically that the Dowager Queen and her family did not trust Gloucester and sought to protect the young king. It's rare to hear Elizabeth's actions couched as anything but pure ambition.
Being the only surviving son and heir to the Tudor dynasty made him insane for a son. All his life he aimed for a male heir, ruining all his marriages. I wonder how things would have been different if he had brothers after him securing the throne.
for those of you who read
Thomas B Costain's histories of the royals of England are definitely
worth hunting out and reading.
The Conquering Family, The Magnificent Century, The Three Edwards, and The Last Plantagenets
cover from Henry II to Richard III with a nudge at the end into HenryVII...
he was one of the first to counter in a popular history, the Shakespearean portrait of R III,
and to suggest that perhaps Margaret may have had cause to bump off her nephews
Awesome series of books!
I read them all
I am watching The White Queen now and was curious about her relationship to Henry VIII, thank you for a wonderful video explaining the somewhat complex family tree!
You forgot the letter found in the National Archives, written in 1511 from the ambassador to Venice “that the Queen Mother, wife of King Edward, died of plague, and the King is disturbed.” It somewhat explains the lackluster funeral and burial of Queen Elizabeth Woodville, as to prevent her daughters, grandchildren, Woodville nieces, and other attendants from becoming infected and spreading the disease to their families and the Royal court.
Lindsay. Dear. Small problem. That picture.... the third woman is Anne Neville, not Elizabeth of York. (I realize you were probably wanting to use one picture and there weren’t any of those three specifically together, but I know that series like the back of my hand hahaha.)
I couldn't help but point that out too xD
I have too. Feel awful now :-(
The hand that rocks the cradle truly rules the world...amazing women with amazing fortitude...
i am afraid that you chose a wrong image at 0:40, actress in yellow dress is actually playing Anne Neville
Thank you! That drove me nuts! 😂
This video was amazing! These three incredible and fascinating women are my favorites!
Thank you Lindsay!💞
Well, I’m sure they were beautiful women in their youth! Maybe I can steal Anna’s time machine ;)
Not if I stop you first ;)
@@lucifermorningstar-k2f Oh no you don’t! We’re going to cook Henry like it’s Possibly In Michigan >:(
@@KHowardishereandthefunsbegun
Uh... okay.
@@lucifermorningstar-k2f HA I GOT IT!
@@KHowardishereandthefunsbegun
HA! I’M TELLING ANNA!
I am very glad that I watch your videos. I learn a lot from them. Keep on with your videos please.
Thanks for this great video. I am a direct descendant of English aristocrat and immigrant Capt. Charles Barham of Virginia, great nephew of royal governor Sir Samuel Argall. Through the Argall family, we are descendants of Sir John Pashley and his wife Elizabeth Woodville, paternal aunt of Queen Elizabeth Woodville. I loved the background on the Queen and some insight into her personality.
Isn't it marvelous how people who are descendants of people to be proud of never need a DNA test because they know their ancestry?
Elizabeth Woodville is my 14th great grandmother through her son Thomas Grey. Her genes live on.
But not King Edward 😭. John grey
@@Officialaaravd Edward I is my 19 times grandfather through his daughter, Joan.
@@baladilady ok so a half cousin marriage must have been done at some point
@@baladilady also the current queen also descends from Woodville
@@Officialaaravd I'm related to the current Queen through both my mother and father.
great video! would you ever be able to do a video on british heirs who never ascended the throne?
this is my favorite video from lindsay holiday!
Your videos are an absolute treat because you pick the most wonderful images to illustrate with from contemporary portraits to preraphaelite imaginings you just pick the best pictures. What's your secret
Richard, Duke of York’s head was displayed on Micklegate Bar in York after the Battle of Wakefield in 1460 not on the Tower of London. The heads of his 17 year old son Edmund, Earl of Rutland and his brother in law Richard, Earl of Salisbury were also displayed.
King Edward IV later exhumed the body of his father and brought it from Pontefract to Fotheringhay for reinternment.
I think it’s a combination of the Rose Wars history, his brother’s death, and Henry’s jostling accident that changed his personality to become so brutal. The Rise Wars was initially started likely when King Stephen was fighting for the crown against Queen Matilda because Matilda was the only legitimate heir to take her father’s place. It sparked a distrust in securing the line with women, as much as Matilda fought for her place, Stephen beat her to the throne and started a conflict that would finally resolved when Henry’s father the VII defeated the common enemy Richard III. And then Henry witnessed the hope that was on his brother’s shoulders fade when he suddenly died, making the VII anxious about keeping security in the new dynasty.
The reason I think that the jostling accident accelerated yet was just a part of Henry’s mindset was that initially Henry really got along with his first wife Catherine. It wasn’t until time went by and only their daughter Mary was survivor and the only heir that Henry started looking at other options, being open to looking at other women to help his situation. It seems accounts can verify that there was a difference Henry before and after his jousting accident that contributed to his tyrant attitude toward his wives.
It’s really sad how he was related to so many strong and beyond capable women, yet he made reckless decisions to avoid having a daughter take the throne, only for BOTH daughters eventually take the throne. The irony is that it’s his youngest daughter that becomes the most iconic and highly favorable monarch, I’d argue, in human history. More favorable than his reign, even though both had highs in the welfare of the people, Henry’s attitude towards his marriages and religion stains his reputation.
I like how she describes them as pretty but then the painting is whack
She look beautiful
Art back then was more about style than likeliness, and by all accounts they were quite lovely.
Beauty standards changed. They had different ideas of pretty
The Duke of York's head was placed on Micklegate Bar in York, not on the tower of London.
hey look, it's me! great video as always Lindsay
To everyone who enjoys these types of stories I highly recommend Rebecca Gablé's wonderful novel Fortune's Wheel.
It's the first in a series of 6 (and counting - fingers crossed) about the fictional English noble family of Waringham throughout the middle ages and the Tudor era.
Sadly, Fortune's Wheel is the only book in the series which has been translated into English (Gablé is a professor for English mediaeval studies - i.e. she knows what she's writing about - who publishes her novels in German) but if enough people buy the first book, I'm sure they'd continue translating the series.
The second book's title loosely translates to 'The Keepers of the Rose" and covers the events of this video - Henry VI's mental illness, Catherine of Valois' and Owen Tudor's scandalous relationship, their son Edmund's and Margaret Beaufort's marriage and Henry VII's conquest of the throne of England.
It's an absolute page-turner.
You must be KIDDING!!!!!!!! TH-cam DIDN’T EVEN NOTIFY ME!!!!!😭
I think you haven't turn on the notification 😑
The War of the Roses reminds me of my ancestors family feud. My parents are both from Bangladesh and the neighbourhood where my dad was from disliked the neighbourhood my mum was from and to this day I really don’t know why. I believe it was due to them competing or something like that. Anyways as a result my dad married my mum to solve the issue and kinda unite the people. My parents had me as the only son out of 5 kids. Idk why but I feel honoured lol and it just reminds of the War of the Roses and how Henry VII married Elizabeth of York to end the War of the Roses
Oh, even if he'd foreseen the future and known about Gloriana and the Elizabethan Age, he'd still have raged about her dying childless, without even *trying*.
I think so as well he would not have wanted Elizabeth to be Queen ruling by herself and would have encouraged her to marry giving away her rights as ruler to who she married and if she turned out to not have a son she would have been blamed heck he would have been personally arranging her marriages and promising her off to whomever he saw fit so for his daughter she was most likely fortunate that he passed when he had
kinda unrelated but imagine the things we don't know about history that could change everything
I enjoy your videos so much! Also the pics you show are great, some I have never seen before. Thank you!
So many secret marriages. And Margaret sounds like the mother in law from hell.
Well met, Lindsey. Your videos get better and better👍.
So enjoyed your rapid narration of Tudor history. Especially the accompanying paintings and visual depictions of history, which made it so much more interesting than just reading or even listening. What a fascinating collection of art.
G.
Greetings! I always enjoy learning about my queen’s family 👑
Greetings, my lord!
@@lucifermorningstar-k2f
Ah, Your Grace! How are you this afternoon? 😊
@@robertdudleyearlofleiceste828
Very good, my lord. Thank you :)
Aw ❤️
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❤️
That was so engaging. Literally stops my racing thoughts.
tHIS IS THE BEST VIDEO ON THIS TOPIC THAT i HAVE EVER FOUND, AND i HAVE WATCHED HUNDREDS. tHANK YOU
Had his mother been alive during Henry VIII’s reign, she would have been able to moderate his behaviour and possibly stand in for him as monarch whenever he has his fits. Men usually fear their mamas more than anyone so…
He had mental health issues.
Too bad Henry VIII couldn't see into the future, then he would have known that his daughter with Anne, as Queen Elizabeth was the great *KING* and heir he so desperately desired.
What a trio! Anyone would be most fortunate to have as personal supporters for themselves! Other than Elizabeth 1, a bright and hopeful beginning for the Tudor
legacy! But then...
Borderline Personality Disorder??? Seriously. There is no way someone can diagnose King Henry VIII with Borderline personality disorder. That is just riduculous
it's now crystal clear to me, many thanks dear Lindsay ! you rock it :) What would the world be without bold women ?
So much drama and death. So glad I live in this century.
Margaret of Beaufort was an amazing character!
In regards to Margaret Beaufort’s infertility, I heard a theory that she was left so traumatized by the birth that she only agreed to marry her third and fourth husbands on the condition they don’t have sex. I don’t know how true that is but I wouldn’t be surprised.
I don’t think that’s true. Her third (or second, depends who you ask) marriage to Stafford was long and reportedly very happy, and her third marriage was very politically important. In this period, a non consummated marriage was not binding, and a man had sexual rights to his wife and she had no right to say no: the idea that two relatively young men would agree to enter into a sexless marriage with a wealthy woman and then not secure her wealth via consummation is unthinkable.
Most likely, birth at such a young age left Margaret permanently infertile, as is often the case. More children would have most definitely been in Margaret’s best interests, and she wouldn’t have had a say in it either way
A pregnant 13 year old girl!? I know rules were different 500 years ago but seriously, that's too young!
Family tree has so many forks it looks like a cutlery drawer
I just want to let you know, that in the picture of the series "The white queen" the woman, that stands besides the throne is not Elizabeth of York, but Anne Neville, daughter of Lord Richard Neville, and later wife of Richard III and queen of England . In the series she is called "the kingmakes daughter"
I enjoyed the video! Thank you!
Thanks! ❤
Thank you for the wonderful & informative video. I enjoyed it.
I hope you are feeling better.
Margaret Beaufort was the true master at the game of thrones.
Yeah, find her much more interesting person to be honest. The whole thing to me is far interesting than game of thrones will ever be.
Very interesting and meticulous research on your historical video.
Can you please make a video about Kosem sultan??
yes i would love that.
She already posted a vid about her.
@@thxforsharing5679 No, she Posted a video about Hurrem sultan
And hurrem was just a Queen consort,
Kosem was a Regnant (ruler in her own right)
@@oomar4553 edi don't
she was in her mid 20s when her son was a teenager 😐😐 let. that. sink. in.
If we saw what these people really looked like would we be absolutely shocked?
Check out the AI sites,they r awesome.
Medieval art was more about style than likeliness.
This narrator is pitch perfect. This is really well done