Henry VIII's Sisters

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  • Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland and Mary Tudor, Queen of France lived lives just as intriguing and dramatic as the six spouses of their famous sibling.
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    Henry VIII’s is infamous for his relationships with women. The domineering King took 6 wives during his 36 years on the throne. And he disposed of them with as much scandal as he wooed them - Divorced, Beheaded, Died, Divorced, Beheaded, Survived. But Henry had two other important women in his life, his sisters, Margaret and Mary. Their lives and complicated relationships with their brother are just as intriguing as those of the famous 6 wives. Let’s get to know the two Tudor sisters, Margaret, Queen of Scotland and Mary, Queen of France.
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  • @MULVTTO
    @MULVTTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4622

    I swear they only had 25 names in this age. Mary, Henry, Anne, Charles, wash, rinse, repeat.

    • @mss1923
      @mss1923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +820

      Don't forget elizabeth and Richard

    • @laurenhealy8907
      @laurenhealy8907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +705

      And catherine

    • @cha2117
      @cha2117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      Still do with the Royals.

    • @Lisa59
      @Lisa59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

      @@laurenhealy8907 And Jane. Also, it seems as if every third man was called Thomas. I wonder why no King Thomas!

    • @ashleygarcia5317
      @ashleygarcia5317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +248

      Don’t forget James

  • @kuceracm
    @kuceracm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1666

    Henry preaching to his sister about the sanctity of marriage, meanwhile he had two divorces and beheaded two of his wives. The audacity.....lmao

    • @loradevloneckler6551
      @loradevloneckler6551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      He did that later. Lack of sons changed his mind

    • @drinkwater319
      @drinkwater319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Believe it of not but Henry the Eighth was a feminist. A new age man, it was Henry who did all the housework and washing up in his marriages. He was often heard to complain to the court...I wish someone would invent a vacuum cleaner, this carpet is absolutely filthy

    • @cinnow
      @cinnow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Men!

    • @simplystreeptacular
      @simplystreeptacular 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I feel like "the audacity" basically sums up Henry VIII as a whole ngl

    • @gidzmobug2323
      @gidzmobug2323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He was in the process of divorce #1 at the time.

  • @Yasin_2312
    @Yasin_2312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2448

    It’s crazy how the Tudor Kings favoured sons as they were meant to pass on the legacy. But Henry VIII’s sister Margaret Tudor is the reason why we still have the Royal Family. Even Henry VIII’s daughter Mary and Elizabeth are remembered more than Edward VI. Truly daughters are powerful

    • @Hani-nw4qh
      @Hani-nw4qh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ovi lol

    • @Yasin_2312
      @Yasin_2312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @Kelly Sanders ok but Edward ruled for 6 years still which is longer than Mary’s reign yet Mary’s legacy (Bloody Mary) still is remembered to this day - not that she did a good thing

    • @edwardviofengland8048
      @edwardviofengland8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That's cool and all but why do people forget that my reign was way better than Mary's and could have compared to Elizabeth if I lived slightly longer?
      Common I deserve some credit for being the only child monarch of England other than Edward III who didn't screw up his reign

    • @Sierralovescharles
      @Sierralovescharles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Move on its been years

    • @Sierralovescharles
      @Sierralovescharles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edwardviofengland8048 .

  • @Headpfones
    @Headpfones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    More irony here is Henry thought having a male heir was the only thing to save his families reign but it was made entirely of strong women

    • @Headpfones
      @Headpfones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @Christopher Vergara As well from what I could tell by my speculations Henry was someone who was ruled by his sense of want, lust and ego. Which did not help any.

  • @iantempleton313
    @iantempleton313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +624

    “Henry VII did the UNTHINKABLE as a medieval king...he DIDN’T go to war!” Bruh 😂

    • @LS-dp2gs
      @LS-dp2gs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How could he? He was busy changing domestic religion so he could divorce and then execute his wives as much as possible.

    • @beccagee5905
      @beccagee5905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@LS-dp2gs That was King Henry VIII, not the VII

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I bet he would had liked it as much as any other monarch of the time but his own rebellion and the subsequent Yorkish attempts to recover the throne left the crown short of funds and with the dire need of consolidation of the power of his own family, some of the people executed under his son were just guilty of having a claim to the throne due having a close connection to the Plantagenets.

    • @Oldie699
      @Oldie699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He became king by going to war

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Oldie699 Right? And he was in the thick of it, not hanging back at a safe distance.

  • @emilybarclay8831
    @emilybarclay8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2653

    Elizabeth and Henry’s marriage was so strong and built of genuine affection that it’s almost ironic that their son saw women as nothing but playthings and a means to a son, although at least their daughters appeared to have had at least amicable marriages

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +456

      I was thinking the same thing. Henry VII genuinely loved Elizabeth and was faithful to her their entire marriage (which is extraordinary for the time and his position) and gave their children as well adjusted a life that could be given during the his reign. And yet Henry VIII grew up to discard women like garbage on a whim, when in reality he was the real trash. Smh 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @lizg2153
      @lizg2153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Wasn't Henry VIII a decent husband for Katherine of Aragon for most of their marriage? For more than 20 years. But it's unfortunate how he turned out when he became desperate and then tyrannical.

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      @@lizg2153 Well he cheated on her throughout those 20 years, had his son (Henry FitzRoy), and apparently would undermine her in public

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@lizg2153 I think they had a decent marriage but I think the whole divorce thing and how he treated Mary kinda outweighs the good

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@areiaaphrodite I mean as far as medieval royal marriages go, especially Henry’s marriages, getting cheated on and being undermined in public by your husband seems like a pretty good deal. I’d let my husband cheat on me and bully me in public if he didn’t execute me, my children and my family and just left me alone. No doubt it was a horrible situation but frankly the other Catherine and Anna got the worse end of the stick. At least she was married to him while he was still young, handsome and not entirely mad

  • @autumnpeacock4156
    @autumnpeacock4156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2166

    You know I respect James for backing off Margaret do to her young age

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +424

      Well, to be fair He had around 5 illegitimate children that were conceived before and after His marriage to Margaret.. So He didnt wait out those 3 year's in a chaste manner

    • @ilikeapples1824
      @ilikeapples1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@TheOnlyElle. lmao this is so funny

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +316

      @@ilikeapples1824 lol I'm glad You see My sense of humour! :) I suppose, (for the time period) James did treat Margaret very well. A lot of Men would of kept "consummating" their marriages to child brides- consequences be damned! To be fair to Margaret, I believe She kept the younger "illegitimate" children in the royal nursery with Her own children, or at least made sure the "illegitimate" children were educated..which speaks volumes on Her character. Definitely a different time with a different view on life! :)

    • @lyissdustyy._.lavender6399
      @lyissdustyy._.lavender6399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aleasyah3032 oh

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@TheOnlyElle. Marriages were not often consummated. Girls could be married young but usually it was agreed between the families that the girl had to be at least 14 to 16 when having sex. Still not ideal, however at least she ain't 9. Margaret Beaufort was considered too young even for her own time to be pregnant.

  • @jamiemohan2049
    @jamiemohan2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1495

    The OG Tudor sisters. The ones who's descendants would sit on the throne. I'm very surprised neither has had films made on them.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      A film was made about Mary many years ago

    • @fidelroyolandasmackonmytid45
      @fidelroyolandasmackonmytid45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Exactly! It's Margaret's descendants still sitting on the throne not Henry's

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@pedanticradiator1491 Interrsting I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me.

    • @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem
      @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      lady jane is a movie about mary's granddaughter, jane grey, being queen for 9 days. its from the 80s with helena bonham carter and one of my favorites.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Christopher Reynolds also called The Sword and The Rose

  • @KimmieHD
    @KimmieHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    The only person that sounded pleasant was James, who only consumated the marriage due to legal reasons and decided to wait until she was older. He then went on to give her a happy marriage until his death. He even left a will to make sure she and their son were taken care of in case of his death. What a loving and thoughtful man.

    • @michellewheatley2007
      @michellewheatley2007 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He was very susceptible to the influence of the Inquisition though, very paranoid about witches and any female of power

    • @legacyxlove
      @legacyxlove 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He also had tons of illegitimate children.

    • @legacyxlove
      @legacyxlove 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@michellewheatley2007do you have the right James?

    • @LindaMeade
      @LindaMeade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@michellewheatley2007I think you're confusing James IV of Scotland with his great grandson, James VI of Scotland and I of England. The latter's queen was Anne of Denmark. Their daughter Elizabeth was the progenitor of the Hanover dynasty.

  • @fishstix8025
    @fishstix8025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1609

    I feel Henry's sisters were so underrated and underappreciated in history, So glad this video was made!

    • @karenstrong6734
      @karenstrong6734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Same, I was curiously about his sisters, they sure have damn interesting lives. Btw, I love history and a history nerd.

    • @nayannacoleman
      @nayannacoleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Right their bloodline carried till this day

    • @karenstrong6734
      @karenstrong6734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nayannacoleman absolutely, indeed.

    • @lililillililil4028
      @lililillililil4028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree!

    • @delete---7593
      @delete---7593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      .🤔😑.

  • @googane7755
    @googane7755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    Margaret *wants a divorce*
    Henry who just divorced and executed several of his wives: No you shouldn't do that it's immoral and wrong

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Margaret asked for a divorce while Henry was still married to his first wife, so he wasn't a hypocrite yet.

    • @caro2233
      @caro2233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Henry VIII : "You can't... only I can!"

    • @helene420
      @helene420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Henry had brain worms.

    • @missdollycollector9687
      @missdollycollector9687 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Henry injured and became jerk as hell

  • @Replicaate
    @Replicaate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +881

    Damn, I'm kinda shocked at how little I hear about Margaret - I'd say anyone who's life contains the incident "fired cannons at estranged husband" is worth remembering!

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      You'd have a laugh at James II, king of Scots, then.
      He died at the height of his power, when he was killed by an exploding cannon. Not an *enemy* cannon, mind you, his own cannon.
      This was around the time of the War of the Roses, BTW, so it left his widow Mary of Guelders in an awkward position. She actually ran a pretty solid regency for the children she had with James.

    • @Replicaate
      @Replicaate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@jeandehuit5385 You'd think after all the bad shit that happened to them they'd stop naming Scottish kings James!

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Replicaate Well, James II was rather well-liked b/f he got his head blown off.
      Plus his son had already been born & named James by this point in time, so James III is lock-in, as it were.

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@jeandehuit5385 yes it seems it was a cursed name for that family, the first king James was killed in a conspiracy by his own Stewart kin, this one with the cannon, another was killed during the course of a rebellion of his own son, another was killed in battle against the english and the last one exiled and ousted from the thrones of his kingdoms.

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@g.sergiusfidenas6650 Well, you could easy apply the 'curse' to other Scottish monarchs as well:
      Alexander III: failed to provide an heir other than his 8 y/old granddaughter, who subsequently died.
      John de Balliol: awarded the kingdom as rightful heir. Subsequently undermined by the English king & forced to abdicate.
      David II: held captive in England & nearly forced to abdicate. Faces rebellion by his older half-nephew, & fails to father any heirs.
      Robert II: becomes king at advanced age & so surrenders rule to his sons, the eldest of whom was already lame. His powerbase slowly crumbles & magnates act like kings.
      Robert III: purportedly self-described as "the worst of kings and the most miserable of men" he also becomes king at advanced age (w/ a head injury to boot). His eldest son David is murdered, prob. by the king's brother, Albany. His younger son (the aforementioned James I) flees for his safety, only to be captured by the English.
      Mary, queen of Scots: was raised in Catholic France w/ the expectation of a French marriage; is forced back to (now-Protestant) Scotland when her spouse prematurely dies. Lacking an heir, she must marry, but her choice ends up being the most repugnant of men imaginable. She ends up murdering him & as a consequence she loses her throne. Exiled to England, she ends up executed due to a plot she had very little involvement in.
      Charles I: do we really need to go over it? I'm sure we're all familiar enough w/ the English Civil War...
      As you can see, Scotland didn't produce very many 'successful' monarchs: David I, Robert the Bruce, James II, & James IV are the only clear standouts. Even James VI (who had the longest reign out of any of these ppl.) was purportedly the 'wisest fool in Christendom,' since despite his extensive Calvinist education he wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, believing himself smarter than he actually was.
      While Scotland would have monarchs after James (I count up to Queen Anne), England had by that point effectively 'stolen' the monarchy; they stayed in England, spoke English, & looked almost exclusively after their English subjects. I don't think any monarch post-merging of the Crowns monarchs attempted governing Scotland at all, frankly.
      As for curses, I don't put much stock in them; the problems faced by Scottish monarchs have more to do w/ Scotland being a very difficult land to govern effectively w/ the tools available at the time. It was poor, decentralized, & had a very niche (yet indispensable) position within European geopolitics, vis-à-vis England & France (see: the Ault Alliance), as well as various Scandinavian powers.

  • @ARedMagicMarker
    @ARedMagicMarker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    "Now free, Mary began to make plans for a marriage to a man of her own choosing. But her brother conveniently forgot his promise.'
    *AND NOT A SINGLE SURPRISE WAS GIVEN.*

  • @emilybarclay8831
    @emilybarclay8831 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    You left out a particularly adorable detail about Margret and James’s relationship. Shortly after they first met, James himself came to console Margret when a stable fire killed some of her favourite horses. Few royal husbands would have even cared, but James clearly cared for his wife

  • @juanitarichards1074
    @juanitarichards1074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    Margaret Beaufort gave birth at 13. Her marriage at 12 was consummated immediately which even then was frowned upon. But her husband knew he was going away to war and might never return and he hoped for an heir to take his place, which is exactly what happened. He was killed without ever knowing his young wife was pregnant with a son. So when Princess Margaret was betrothed to the Scots king she stopped Margaret from being sent to Scotland until she was 14. She didn't want Margaret damaged the way she had been.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's what I thought, too. I forget where I read it, though. Thanks.

    • @charlottekey8856
      @charlottekey8856 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The Scottish king supposedly replied to this worry by assuring his English in-laws-to-be that he was already much occupied with mistreses and would not bother Margarate for quite a while.

    • @juanitarichards1074
      @juanitarichards1074 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@charlottekey8856 They still didn't send Margaret until she was 14.....and the Scottish king did indeed have plenty of time for her. Many kings promised not to meddle with underage brides but most broke that promise, except in households where the young bride would reside with her mother in law and other ladies who kept her separate from her groom until she was deemed old enough.

    • @charlottekey8856
      @charlottekey8856 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, but I have read that James did assure them he was otherwise amorously occupied. Perhaps he put Margaret in the nursery with his mistresses' children for a few years.

    • @juanitarichards1074
      @juanitarichards1074 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@charlottekey8856 He may have told them that but he had asked for her to be sent at age 12........after they had a proxy marriage and Henry Vlll was going to send her but his mother talked him out of it, and one person he listened to was his mother.

  • @Pythonfan3
    @Pythonfan3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    Imagine being sent by your dad to marry a guy, only for your brother ten years later murdering him. Like we all know that Henry VIII was an asshole, but come on.

    • @theresaschuebel5151
      @theresaschuebel5151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Actually it was not Henry that got into that battle it was catharine that did that and she caused James to be killed Henry had a part in it yea by starting the war but he didn't do the actual killing

    • @Pythonfan3
      @Pythonfan3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@theresaschuebel5151 Yeah I got your point but Henry still started the war against her sister's husband.

    • @unchartedraider7547
      @unchartedraider7547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pythonfan3
      Yes he did

    • @annbooth9552
      @annbooth9552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sister wives

    • @Bluey306
      @Bluey306 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Pythonfan3 huh?? if i remember correctly James the one who got a big head and continuously threatened the English-Scottish border, which was outrageous and galling given his wife was an English princess _and_ the sister of the reigning English sovereign. Henry VIII is a lot of things but during that time he wasn't nearly the big unstable bad guy that he turned out to be later in his life. you'll be shocked to learn other sovereigns do idiotic things too.

  • @ShimmerShineSparkle
    @ShimmerShineSparkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    Medieval times must've been like: Ok! These are the only names you can your children!
    Boys Girls
    Henry Catherine
    Thomas Elizabeth
    William Mary
    Arthur Margaret
    Charles Anne
    Francis Jane
    John Joan
    George Isabel
    Richard Eleanor

    • @miaomiaochan
      @miaomiaochan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Royal and noble families were certainly like this - even to this day - but the lower classes used a greater variety of names.

    • @robertdudleyearlofleiceste7874
      @robertdudleyearlofleiceste7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      What about Robert?

    • @purplexninjamom
      @purplexninjamom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Basically, yeah. You forgot Edward.

    • @angelbeauty89
      @angelbeauty89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 exactly!!! 😆👌🏻

    • @gillchambers9008
      @gillchambers9008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      which names would you like chuck buster troy!!

  • @HinaBoBina521
    @HinaBoBina521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1604

    Okay, but like Mary is so pretty..

    • @Lionstar16
      @Lionstar16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      She was - in fact, she was once casted in the role of 'Beauty' during a court pageant Henry hosted during Lent.

    • @HinaBoBina521
      @HinaBoBina521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@Lionstar16 well deserved, she is very beautiful Margaret is too.

    • @ElizaFromYesteryear
      @ElizaFromYesteryear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      And James IV of Scotland was so ugly

    • @HinaBoBina521
      @HinaBoBina521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@ElizaFromYesteryear i can’t disagree, but you never know (just trying to cut him slack even tho he was butt ugly.)

    • @ezgidogan3827
      @ezgidogan3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Yes, she was very beautiful even by the today’s standarts

  • @IntrepidFraidyCat
    @IntrepidFraidyCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    I'd never seen that painting before...the children crying for their mother.💔

    • @MsVanorak
      @MsVanorak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's in a book I think, an illuminated sxriqt.

    • @winterweib
      @winterweib 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ì know it from a video. I think it was something like death in medieval times, no medicine. Something like that.

    • @theresaschuebel5151
      @theresaschuebel5151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have Claire ridgeway's has shown it on her channel here on TH-cam the Anne Boylne files and Tudor society

  • @lvperalta
    @lvperalta ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Henry to Margaret: Marriage is sacred. Don’t divorce.
    Also Henry: I will divorce you Catherine.

  • @autumnpeacock4156
    @autumnpeacock4156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    Just finished reading “Three Sisters Three Queens” it’s a book about Margaret, Mary, and Katherine of Aragon. So good

    • @obsessivefangirl5055
      @obsessivefangirl5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That's the one by Phillipa Gregory right? Also is the Spanish princess series loosely based on that?

    • @camillesworldlittlequeen2143
      @camillesworldlittlequeen2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You’re an actual nerd I am marry you I wish I was even smart enough to read those type of books and I’m in six grade ;-;

    • @elizabethpendleton7718
      @elizabethpendleton7718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome story!!

    • @leanie9660
      @leanie9660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also have just finished that book. Margaret comes off as a real twit.

    • @isda3314
      @isda3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now I wanna read that

  • @losingmymind611
    @losingmymind611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Go get my sister from France, and whatever you do, DON'T marry her."
    immediately marries her

  • @SomePerson_Online
    @SomePerson_Online 3 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    Henrys’ sisters were really beautiful, compared to their brother...

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      He was handsome as a young man

    • @OO-oe3th
      @OO-oe3th 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Henry was known to be quite handsome when he was young

    • @MagdaleneDivine
      @MagdaleneDivine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I'm like

    • @lisad1532
      @lisad1532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@pedanticradiator1491 handsome and athletic
      Henry loved food too much and became obese

    • @shaqbailey3869
      @shaqbailey3869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Henry was only fat!!! But by all accounts he was very good looking

  • @AbrahamLincoln4
    @AbrahamLincoln4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    Henry is the English Version of "Go to Gulag" to his wives.

  • @frojo9
    @frojo9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    "She must've gotten over them KILLING her first husband." LINDSSAAAAYYYYY WITH THE READ OF THE YEAR. :D

    • @est9949
      @est9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There are so many comedy gold nuggets in this video lmao the one about Henry VII doing the unthinkable of not going to war is another.

  • @brettlarch8050
    @brettlarch8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Divorced, beheaded, died. Divorced, beheaded, survived. About sums it up.

    • @evangross8201
      @evangross8201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But just for you tonight we are divorced, beheaded,
      live

    • @isda3314
      @isda3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Divorced

    • @scottsterling7659
      @scottsterling7659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then you would love Henry viii song

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like how Anne and her cousin were the only ones who were beheaded. Says something about the family.

    • @brettlarch8050
      @brettlarch8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@areiaaphrodite It doesn't actually. Just because they happened to be related doesn't automatically make a correlation. Henry VIII should've just been less of a misogynistic power hungry religious hypocrite. I said what I said.

  • @alyssao517
    @alyssao517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Mary’s portrait is one of the few flattering portraits from this time period

  • @lovielovienickiiii
    @lovielovienickiiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Sometimes I feel like someone put a curse on that entire family and anyone they encountered

    • @nayannacoleman
      @nayannacoleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Lol all started with Elizabeth Woodville

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nayannacoleman LOL!

    • @loradevloneckler6551
      @loradevloneckler6551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Called stupidity. Inbred relations so I can say that

    • @randwickbelle
      @randwickbelle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      they did

  • @nazninsultanask
    @nazninsultanask 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    What!Henry himself refused a divorce for his sister but he broke the church with England to divorce?

    • @Redrally
      @Redrally 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People keep forgetting he was married to Catherine of Aragon for 20 years. I think he did genuinely love her on some level. Trouble is... HE NEEDED A SON so, yeah, divorce for a younger woman so he could try again? Absolutely.

    • @priscillas6846
      @priscillas6846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He indirectly indicating that women have no rights to divorce.

    • @MsJubjubbird
      @MsJubjubbird 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was a narcissist. One rule for me, one for everyone else. Plus I think Margaret asked while he was still married to Katherine. She may have put the idea in his head

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MsJubjubbird Yeah, the whole trouble with Margaret happened during Henry's good years w/ Katherine.
      While I firmly believe Henry made himself believe what he needed to believe at any given moment, you have to remember that what Henry wanted was an *annulment,* not a divorce. An annulment was like the marriage never happened.
      So any children produced by an annulled marriage were treated as if their parents had never been married, hence why Elizabeth I was called a bastard (legally that's what she was, as Henry annulled his marriage to Anne Boleyn b/f executing her. Even though Katherine Parr convinced Henry to include her & the future Mary I back into the line of succession, that didn't reverse the annulment).
      Granted, you can get a certain kind of annulment wherein the children aren't seen as illegitimate (Eleanor of Aquitaine got one of these), they were rare & I don't think it was the kind that Henry VIII wanted.
      I don't know if Margaret asked her brother to support an annulment or a divorce. If it was a divorce then it makes sense why he would be against it (since he considered himself a staunch Catholic his entire life, even after he stopped being a Papist).
      Even if Margaret asked for an annulment he may have thought she didn't have a good enough reason. Henry had the 'excuse' that Katherine of Aragon had 'known' his brother, which he believe lent ecclesiastical support for his annulment. It didn't, but those were his reason. I don't think Margaret had any other than 'we don't love each other anymore & he's using my money.'
      To be clear, I don't like Henry VIII very much, but he *did* try to rationalize his actions, even if said rationalizations only made sense to him.

    • @RuthCrocker
      @RuthCrocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep..what an a hole 🕳

  • @tabby5228
    @tabby5228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    I would actually love to see a video about Elizabeth Stuart, the only daughter of James the first and the mother of Sofia of Hanover whose line inherited the throne after the Stuart’s. She had a fascinating life.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She and her husband when they were king and queen of Bohemia for a year used to bathe naked in the river Vltava in Prague so I have read!

    • @courtneycook7910
      @courtneycook7910 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Or Margaret Beaufort

  • @kiarimarie
    @kiarimarie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I know these were paintings, but all these kings looked...not healthy.

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yep. Henry 8 looked fat at 18, and James 4 looked anorexic.

    • @kiarimarie
      @kiarimarie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@ChibiProwl Oh, I wasn’t even referring to weight. This was lesser directed at Henry, just some of their faces how they were painted look like they might’ve had some genetic issues.

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kiarimarie Well yes. Henry 8 was gorgeous compared to Charles II of Spain.

    • @RealRedheadedBeauty
      @RealRedheadedBeauty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Inbreeding creates all kind of genetic issues that mainstream likes to keep hidden.

    • @valeriyavarnavskaya4081
      @valeriyavarnavskaya4081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lol infamous interbred Habsburg jaw you referring to?

  • @bettysteward-anderson5647
    @bettysteward-anderson5647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Margaret Tudor had a daughter with Archibald Douglas also named Margaret. (She would be the half sister of James V) Her son, Henry, Lord Darnley married Mary, Queen of Scots-they were both Margaret Tudor’s grandchildren. Their son became James VI of Scotland and James I of England. So all British monarchs since then, come through Margaret. Not Henry VIII nor Mary. Interesting!

  • @PigIA
    @PigIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Margaret descendent!
    Fun fact:
    The first mention of the color orange was on a receipt of one of Margaret’s dresses

    • @circe9981
      @circe9981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      are u a margaret descendant?

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, how cool.

  • @TreyCapnerhurst
    @TreyCapnerhurst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    "Violet powder" was orris root powder. Violets don't leave a scent that lingers, but orris root is a fixative, with a violet note. It was an extremely common base note for medieval scents, including deodorants.

    • @jujunita12345
      @jujunita12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ooo interesting

    • @RuthCrocker
      @RuthCrocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So interesting, thanks!

  • @m7dasplatoon539
    @m7dasplatoon539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Henry VIII's sister in a nutshell
    Margaret
    Henry VII: I will predict that your marriage will finally unite Scotland and England
    Margaret: Dad that will never happen you are just in depression
    In the afterlife many years later
    Margaret: Hello my great-grandson James what did you do for Scotland?
    James I and VI: I united Scotland and England Great-grandma Margaret
    Margaret: WHAT!?!?
    Henry VII: I told you, Margaret
    Mary
    Henry VIII: I will marry my beautiful, favorite and if I had a daughter she will be named after her my dear sister Mary Tudor
    Mary: Awww thanks bro where I'm goin-
    Henry VIII: To marry the King of France who is in his 50s
    Mary: WHAT HELL NAH
    Henry VIII: Ok if he dies you can choose who to marry I promise
    Mary: Yes
    Not even a year later
    Mary: Finally I will marry my true love The Duke of Sullfo-
    Henry VIII: I'm sending you to marry another old man
    Mary: YOU BROKE YOUR PROMISE
    Henry VIII: And I sending my good friend the Duke of Suffolk to bring my sister back
    Mary: No...Charles let's get marry
    Charles: Ok...
    Henry VIII: WHAT THE HELL oh yeah I made a promise but you need to pay
    Mary: Ok fine

  • @Pythonfan3
    @Pythonfan3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    "Heyyy Margaret, so nice to see you again!! Sorry for murdering your husband btw."
    "Oh, it's okay, shit happens :)"

  • @kindstar2155
    @kindstar2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Yay I love history because of u ty now I’m Passing history class

  • @animelover7846
    @animelover7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Finally! We hear a lot about Henry the 8th, but not much about his sisters. Thank you for making this video :)

  • @jeswick1483
    @jeswick1483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I never knew he had sisters! How did I not know that? It isn’t like their lives were boring! This whole family was nuts. Awesome video.

    • @johnnydepp4417
      @johnnydepp4417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello 👋👋👋 nice to meet you

  • @lexiburrows8127
    @lexiburrows8127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Just a couple of points:- 1: Richard III has never been proven to have killed his nephews. Whilst it might be likely, it cannot be stated as a fact. 2: James IV of Scotland cannot be called a British Monarch as England and Scotland were totally separate Countries at that time.
    P.S. It is generally agreed that Margaret Beaufort was 13 when she gave birth to Henry, NOT 14.

    • @leanneclements143
      @leanneclements143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correct

    • @alliseburris3625
      @alliseburris3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read Josephine Tey's excellent book for the strong argument that Richard III did not murder the boys.

    • @agnieszkas2364
      @agnieszkas2364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good points!

    • @thelanktheist2626
      @thelanktheist2626 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is why she usually states “it’s LIKELY” he killed them.
      But she did manage to fix that Margaret Beaufort mistake in another video.

  • @LS-dp2gs
    @LS-dp2gs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Henry’s sister Margaret definitely had the last laugh.

  • @i_liza_lott
    @i_liza_lott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Those are my aunts!Please do a video that fully talks about Matilda I of England!

    • @ianbat7092
      @ianbat7092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Hi Mary! It’s been a while!

    • @animelover7846
      @animelover7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Catherine of Aragon omg it's Queen Catherine and Queen Marry :0

    • @strawberries1186
      @strawberries1186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the Queens of England video includes her. :)

    • @conclavecabal.h0rriphic
      @conclavecabal.h0rriphic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh hey Mary. What's good? Still executing heretics? You're looking great btw.

    • @conclavecabal.h0rriphic
      @conclavecabal.h0rriphic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ianbat7092It has been a while, huh? Like 600 years!

  • @leenalane8799
    @leenalane8799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I’d like to learn more about the African twin sisters who accompanied Margaret 🥺💓

    • @veronicamcniff9500
      @veronicamcniff9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What African twin sisters???

    • @yvestic
      @yvestic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@veronicamcniff9500 7:40

  • @lucinae8510
    @lucinae8510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Margaret is such an underrated Tudor, especially since all of Britain's monarchs are her descendants!

  • @sabrinabagnarol927
    @sabrinabagnarol927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Henry was also close with his mother who he loved dearly and he was devastated when she died in 1503

  • @ElizaFromYesteryear
    @ElizaFromYesteryear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Me: In Math class
    TH-cam: Lindsay Holiday uploaded a new video
    Me: yEs

  • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
    @reythejediladyviajakku6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I think a talk about Henry’s nieces and nephews would be cool

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So, James V, Margaret Douglas, Frances Brandon & Eleanor Brandon?
      I think these are the only ones who lived to adulthood.

  • @miaomiaochan
    @miaomiaochan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That illumination depicting the family of Elizabeth of York mourning her loss is so remarkable.

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    my mum and step dad both have History degrees and one of their combined specialisms is Tudor history and my mum has her own specialism of women in history. Especially women that are lesser written about so that is one of the reasons why I love your channel and why I pointed my mum towards it as well.

    • @christinecolgate7884
      @christinecolgate7884 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love English Norfolk feeling fine

    • @lucypreece7581
      @lucypreece7581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christinecolgate7884 your comment makes no sense. And I am not from Norfolk.

  • @EbonyYoung8833
    @EbonyYoung8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Aw, thank you so much for making a video about the Tudor sisters. It’s odd learning more about them here than in a book or documentary. As someone else on this thread said, these two sisters are so underrated.

  • @Durpydurp4488
    @Durpydurp4488 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish the show The Tudors hadn’t mucked up the story of Henry’s sisters so badly. They eliminated one entirely, but gave Mary Margaret’s name. They had her marry an 80 year old Portuguese king instead of the 50 year old French king. They had her die before she and Brandon had children. So silly. Margaret’s story is fascinating and they just threw it out.

  • @athena5954
    @athena5954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    If its henry 8 then we all clicking❤

  • @EmilyCheetham
    @EmilyCheetham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It’s good to hear about Henry’s sisters. They are often forgotten about. There are so many documentaries about Henry’s and his wives but this is the first thing Iv seen on the sisters.

    • @janefelix3821
      @janefelix3821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Henry's older sister Margaret kept the Monarchy going as it was her descendants that took over the crown when Elizabeth I died, King James VI of Scotland was her great-grandson and all future monarchs were his, thus Margaret's descendants.

  • @avarose2227
    @avarose2227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I just want to say thank you, Lindsay, for providing such well researched stories about many historical monarchs. I love learning about history, so I find your videos very fascinating. I have watched almost all of the videos in your Queens of Europe series (my favourite so far is likely Catherine the Great), as well as the founding mothers series, and I have really enjoyed your content. I hope you continue to make these great videos!

  • @CSGray-nf2hx
    @CSGray-nf2hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lindsay always swooping in with the entertaining videos when I need them most

  • @johnlewis3891
    @johnlewis3891 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so mad that the The Tudors show mixed Margaret and Mary into one character instead of portraying both sisters. For god sakes, Margaret's life would have made a great story for a spin off show.

    • @DarthRKO-li7qm
      @DarthRKO-li7qm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or A spin off title (...) The Stuarts.

  • @obsessivefangirl5055
    @obsessivefangirl5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Lindsey I don't know what I'd do without your channel. The happiness I get these days from seeing a new video from you is unlike any other channel. Can you please cover some Ottoman queens (e.g. Hurrem Sultan & Kosem Sultan) & the women during the War of the Roses (Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, Margaret Beaufort, Margaret of Anjou, Anne and Isabell Neville, Cecily Neville, etc) and first ladies like Eleanor Roosevelt next? Just some ideas!

  • @robvanvliet2987
    @robvanvliet2987 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was extremely helpful in understanding the family relationships! I was always a bit confused how Lady Jane Gray and James VI of Scotland were related to the family. This cleared it up beautifully with lots of extra interesting details. Well done!

  • @toddbonin6926
    @toddbonin6926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the best explanation of the extended Tudor family I’ve ever seen. So clear. Thank you!

  • @TheBerryPurple
    @TheBerryPurple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Have you considered doing a video on the history of education? I love these videos if yours, have watched the series about child birth and pandemics countless times! What was taught, who was allowed to study, when were women allowed, when did education become regulated (meaning set levels of education like primary school or bachelors degree)

  • @randerson2525
    @randerson2525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The author missed out the fact that James V was married TWICE, his first wife was Madeline of Valois who died then he remarried, to Mary of Guise...

  • @healinggrounds19
    @healinggrounds19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Queen Margaret had the knack of picking Mr.Wrong.

  • @shanemize3775
    @shanemize3775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! You really packed so much good information into it with so much passion and such a sweet voice. It's astounding how everything King Henry VIII touched (as far as people in his immediate family are concerned) ended up miserably. Please keep the outstanding videos coming and God bless you, my friend!

  • @rebeccagursky9390
    @rebeccagursky9390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    These videos so brighten up my day! Love the way you make history so intriguing and entertaining ❤️

  • @aliciahowell9617
    @aliciahowell9617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The symbol of Margaret Beaufort (Henry VII’s mother) was the white greyhound. Henry VIII also loved greyhounds. His favorite’s were named Cut and Ball. They’re wore ornate collars with their name and records show he paid huge rewards when they wandered off (which is easy for an unleashed greyhound running up to 40 mph to do).

    • @aintgotnoname6548
      @aintgotnoname6548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love pet dog names of that era, they were so funny

  • @lovaloo763
    @lovaloo763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such an underrated channel. Thanks so much for the awesome content Lindsay!

  • @melenatorr
    @melenatorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    With all due respect, and thank you for this video, the question of when or if the Princes in the Tower were killed, and by whom, is open to question.

  • @shae293
    @shae293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I seriously love your content! Such an easy and straight forward delivery of really genuinely interesting concepts!! Keep it up

  • @libitina7484
    @libitina7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes Lindsay! I was so excited for you to post another video! :)

  • @cindychristian1700
    @cindychristian1700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you! I started watching the Tudors in the summer by my dvd player broke! I'm going back to watching it on prime or Netflix! It had storyline in the First season about his sister, didn't know he had more than one, and she had rather brief but interesting life!!

  • @lrtemilu8782
    @lrtemilu8782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful pronunciation!!! I was able to understand the whole video! Thank you so much ❤️!

  • @heddwyncloakoftimekeep7744
    @heddwyncloakoftimekeep7744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can't wait, thanks for the upload!

  • @michellebruce8705
    @michellebruce8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting study about the tudor family. I have the whole Tudor series on DVD 📀 love the history. Hope to see more. 😃

  • @extraterresrtial3086
    @extraterresrtial3086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It’s interesting that both margret and Mary’s granddaughters ( Mary Queen of scots and Jane grey) tried to usurp the English throne from Henry’s daughters

    • @hifinsword
      @hifinsword 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lady Jane Grey, the Anglican, was the designated heir by her brother, King Edward VI, also an Anglican. Bloody Mary, the Catholic, usurped the throne from Lady Jane, the opposite of how you characterized it. Religion and its supporters, played the major role back then as to who was going to win.

    • @extraterresrtial3086
      @extraterresrtial3086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hifinsword yeah no. Via Henry’s will Mary was in the line of succession after Edward. Edward and his advisors used Jane as a ploy. Mary had closer proximity to Edward and Henry 8. Jane was edward’s cousin but still with separation. She had no claim. She was a pawn and a usurper. She even knew she shouldn’t have been queen

    • @chrisk5651
      @chrisk5651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@extraterresrtial3086 also Jane’s mother, who was also bypassed by Jane, had a closer/better claim than Jane. All were women - including Elizabeth - in line

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hifinsword Lady Jane Grey was a pawn. She really didn't want to be queen. She just wanted to be left alone.

  • @naomijanzen3562
    @naomijanzen3562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just when i thought id found all the good Henry the 8th documentaries, you bless us with a master piece.

  • @techhacks2468
    @techhacks2468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg yas. I've always wondered about his sisters but it's not often covered. Thanks, great channel

  • @loradevloneckler6551
    @loradevloneckler6551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    King Henry did not skip to Lady Jane Grey. He was dead his son King Edward skipped to her on his deathbed

    • @sleepybunny2
      @sleepybunny2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's exactly what the video said. Listen carefully.

    • @edwardviofengland8048
      @edwardviofengland8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I still feel guilty for her death, I should have just declared Elizabeth my heir..
      I mean I love my sister Mary and all but she went through a lot of trauma and was emotionally unstable to rule. Yes skipping her prolly wasn't the best choice to keep her mentally healthy but it was better for the subjects who would be murdered by her later on.
      Maybe..just maybe Elizabeth would have been able to stop Mary during that period.

  • @pgmoonallstar8506
    @pgmoonallstar8506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Margaret and Henry 8 have so much in common in their love life, they did everything to get a divorce.

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The only Tudor to have a happy love-life was Henry VII (at least until his wife died).
      Margaret Beaufort was married 4 times
      Margaret Tudor was married 3 times
      Henry VIII was married 6 times
      Mary Tudor was married twice (but the 1st one was a *real* clunker)
      Mary I was married to a man who didn't love her (although she loved him)
      Elizabeth I refused to be married
      Bonus points to Arthur & Ed for dying virgins; apparently poor Arthur bragged to his mates that 'having a wife is a good pastime' so that none of them knew he blew it in the bedroom. Then he died :(

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeandehuit5385 What about that line that he "spent the night in Spain?" So that no one knows if he was a virgin.

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LS-ei7xk He was 15, and would never admit to his friends he was a no-show. It's the same thing as the boast about 'having a wife is the best pastime.'
      Both were comments from a self-conscious boy desperate to hide his failure. It's quite sad, really

  • @rdsims8809
    @rdsims8809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoy your presentations. You speak clearly and eloquently!! Thank you for the information. Beautifully, done!!

  • @marygiesler1363
    @marygiesler1363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love, love, loved this! Thank you so much for making this video! Subscribed!

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm glad there's a video about these two incredibly strong but often overlooked Tudor women. Mary was my favourite though. She told her brother to suck it and married whom she wanted whether Henry approved or not. We stan an strong-willed Queen 100% here!!

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always refer to Mary as Duchess of Suffolk rather than the Queen of France. It respects the marriage she chose rather than the one she was forced into, even though it’s not entirely accurate as she was never termed the Duchess of Suffolk during her lifetime.

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kate_cooper True, I just called her Mary Tudor. But in life she was known as The Dowager Queen of France because it's a higher title than Duchess of Suffolk.

  • @michaelcantley9699
    @michaelcantley9699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of my ancestors is mentioned in Margaret’s Official State papers in Scotland.

  • @metteaaskov5248
    @metteaaskov5248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Lindsey. I just want to thank you for your chanel. Im looking forward every day for new stories. Huge fan. Thanks😀

  • @joycefroney6162
    @joycefroney6162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A challenge to follow but very interesting. Thank you for all your work.

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Lindsay!💕

  • @CrimsonJane
    @CrimsonJane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the videos you made, it inspired me to make some videos about history as well, Im fascinated with England history especially the plantagenets and the tudors time. Thanks for this!

  • @classicmoments9433
    @classicmoments9433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An interesting presentation providing greater context for the understanding of the Tudor period. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @marcosreyes904
    @marcosreyes904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lindsay Holiday I just wanted to say thank you for doing these history videos because even if I'm a kid I absolutely love history

  • @haziqharithabdhamid8349
    @haziqharithabdhamid8349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It's 2am now in Malaysia, I was about to go to sleep. Then I saw your video just got uploaded, guess of not getting sleep tonight

    • @kanyebreast6072
      @kanyebreast6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      17.35pm in Great Britain 🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @graceesmi
      @graceesmi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kanyebreast6072 now it’s 18:07

    • @ilikeapples1824
      @ilikeapples1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@graceesmi now 9

    • @bell5859
      @bell5859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      vid ni recommended kt aku pukul 1am..

  • @williamgunderson7365
    @williamgunderson7365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Those Tudors, particularly Margaret and Henry, were incredibly stubborn and tough-minded huh? I think that they may have gotten those traits from the Yorkist side of their family tree. Also, how the two sisters married for love is emblematic of their grandfather Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville (grandmother).

  • @bruceferguson6452
    @bruceferguson6452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Really well put together and researched. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @EdEnglish100
    @EdEnglish100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I could get my entire education after just 1 of your videos 🤣
    I love how your informing ALL ages on the important history that makes today.♥️

  • @ennykraft
    @ennykraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I don't believe that Richard III had murdered his nephews. Henry VII has even more reason to kill them since his claim to the throne was on very shaky grounds.

    • @catherinefrench1912
      @catherinefrench1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aleasyah3032 ahhh but did you not consider that his mother was in England, and was obsessive that her son from his birth was heir 🤔😀

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You imply Richard III's claim wasn't *also* on very shaky grounds. He'd bastardized his nephews based on rather flimsy evidence; rebellions were already being staged in their name. Clearly some Yorkists did not believe his claims that they were illegitimate.
      So long as they were alive, his throne was not secure.
      The last time the boys were seen alive was August 1483, after which a rebellion that was supposed to be staged in their name *suddenly* becomes a rebellion to support Henry of Richmond (this later becomes known as Buckingham's rebellion).
      Why would Yorkists support the Lancastrian claimant if they truly believed Yorkist princes were alive? Why would the boy's mother, Elizabeth Woodville, ally with Margaret Beaufort of all ppl. if she believed her sons were still alive.
      Margaret's husband Lord Stanley doesn't get control of the Tower of London until October 1483, *after* Buckingham's rebellion, so he couldn't have done it, as the boys were already assumed to be dead. Margaret was rich, but she wasn't rich enough to bribe gaolers loyal to the king. If anyone killed the King's nephews on his property, under his *protection,* without his permission there would have been HELL to pay.
      Heck, Richard didn't blame anyone else for the crime even though doing so would greatly increase his reputation! He didn't even produce the boys alive once rumors circulated that they were dead. If they were still alive he could have brought them out (as Henry VII did Edward earl of Warwick), but he didn't.
      If Richard was willing to go through w/ usurpation, he probably wasn't opposed to murder. What avenue for life would the boys have had anyway after he declared them bastards? Richard didn't have to accept Parliament's offer of the crown (necessitating the breaking of his oath to protect his brother's children); he could have refused.
      But Richard believed he would have been painted as the villain either way (either for the incompetence of the boy king's reign, or for disposing of his nephews). He chose the one that would at least benefit him if it succeeded.

    • @JeffGeorge666
      @JeffGeorge666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Henry Tudor was no stranger to killing Plantagenet males. Edward Clarence, anyone?

  • @luisfedericosala1354
    @luisfedericosala1354 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mary Tudor sister to Henry VIII was named “The English Rose 🌹 “
    There is the film: The Sword and the Rose where the romance in between Brandon and Mary is described.
    RIP Margaret and Mary Tudor 🌷♥️❤️🌹

  • @magdizh2262
    @magdizh2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been waiting for this!!

  • @Kryptic.352
    @Kryptic.352 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @LINDSEY HOLIDAY BEST And clearest explanation of any history video I have ever seen, and I have seen thousands!

  • @timelesstravel1321
    @timelesstravel1321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lady Margaret Beaufort: While in the care of her brother-in-law Jasper Tudor, on 28 January 1457, the Countess gave birth to a son, Henry Tudor, at Pembroke Castle. She was thirteen years old at the time and not yet physically mature, so that the birth was extremely difficult.

  • @brettlarch8050
    @brettlarch8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I impressed a British friend of mine for knowing more than him about the British royal family. (I’m American)

    • @Jack-yf9bc
      @Jack-yf9bc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol same

    • @brettlarch8050
      @brettlarch8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jack-yf9bc as an aspiring politician, it’s best to know about others countries histories.

    • @ilikeapples1824
      @ilikeapples1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brettlarch8050 why?

    • @brettlarch8050
      @brettlarch8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ilikeapples1824 to my status or my comment?

    • @cha2117
      @cha2117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Aunt does House tours she's been asked by Americans why a 16th century Manor house was built on a flight path good to know there are intelligent Americans out there but I also hear finding Starbucks in Nottingham impressed Americans.

  • @sleepy_dinosaur1247
    @sleepy_dinosaur1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Had Requested This For A Long Time