Wahoo Element Rival - Who Is This Multisport Watch For? Can it Compete?
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00:00 - Intro
01:45 - Quick Unboxing
01:52 - Hardware Overview
03:42 - User Interface
06:17 - Missing Features / Backlight Brightness
06:42 - Wahoo Phone App
09:56 - GPS and Heart Rate Accuracy
11:48 - Price and Competition
12:43 - Final Thoughts - กีฬา
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I love the heart heart explanation, nice to see somebody going into details, same with customizing the screens. Great review
I got it for triathlon, and I have a Wahoo bike computer. It was only $200, so not bad. I got fed up with Garmin not connecting well, and I found Garmin products overly complicated. So far, quite happy with it. It connects and uploads to Strava within seconds of being in iphone range, unlike Garmin which could take hours. And I kinda like the simplicity of the Rival.
Great review and really liked that you showed the watch and phone app. Thank you
Glad you found it helpful!
Love your channel. Thanks man!
I appreciate that!
Great review Dave.👍
Thanks G Edd!
Interesting review - thanks.
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
Dave, I would be interested in some training focused videos. Like how you would set up a plan for an ultra. Btw, really enjoying your videos even if I'm sticking with my Garmin
For sure. I'll have more training related videos coming when we get a little closer to the Spring. That's typically when I ramp up my volume. Right now I'm still in recovery mode from a recent injury but I'll be back in action soon! Thanks for watching.
I'm a big fan of Wahoo. I use a lot of their cycling stuff. I don't think it was actually rushed. I know they've been working on this watch for a really long time and there's a lot of things I really like about this watch. I actually really like the style and feel of the watch but I agree with you about the buttons. I'm a little worried about those guys. I'm also pretty pumped that the price on this isn't 500. Great review! Glad your HR data was more accurate than mine!
For sure! I really like the aesthetics of the watch and the price point is pretty great. Hoping they roll out more features in the future!
great review.., i decided to check out this review, before making my final choice of the coros apex.., nothing in this review swayed me from that choice. good stuff.
The APEX is a solid watch!
Happy to hear the hr is bang on. I was tempted by this watch because of touchless transition, but a number of people have complained about inaccurate distance data which is an issue. Also the lack of music for training is a downer but not a deal breaker. Hopefully they can improve upon gps accuracy with a firmware update
It seems like Wahoo will be releasing a lot of new features in the future. I'm hopeful that they take this great hardware and make it even more capable with software. The GPS accuracy wasn't bad at all... Just not perfect. And since this watch is limited in features I really wanted HR and GPS to be rock solid since that would be kind of it's only selling point unless you're 100% triathlon. Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks for the great review. I’m certainly tri focused but accurate data is key. Really encouraged by the hr monitoring, especially if it’s close enough to escape the dreaded chest strap
100%. I only click Like when I find the video funny. 😂😂 Good review.
Nailed it!
Hey, love your channel. I wonder if you can share some thoughts and compare all devices with runing power and show how to use them. I like all the digital runner stuff :) Keep the good work!
I have a video comparing running power from the Coros Pace 2, Polar Grit X, and Stryd foot pod. You might some value in that! Hope it helps.
I would really like to see your take on fitness bands. Specifically, the Mi band 5 as I was thinking of purchasing but wanted to hear your opinion on accuracy and user interface.
PS: really enjoy your reviews and loving the frequency of your vids now that you have a new office :D
Thanks for the feedback! I'll add it to the list of ideas!
From what I gathered, the Wahoo Element Rival is a watch designed for triathletes with a minimalist appearance. That means the watch does not have all the bells and whistles and is designed for a triathlete or a person who wants a more simpler watch layout. I personally am not a triathlete, and I do like a lot of data, which means this watch is not for me. I still however, greatly appreciate this watch for what it is! Keep it up Chase the Summit! Thanks for the review!
I tend to agree. Unfortunately Wahoo has already stated they would be discontinuing the Rival product line and wearables in general. But this one did have potential! It’s crazy that you can grab one discounted at $99 now!
@@ChaseTheSummit Interesting. Dang! It sucks they are going to discontinue it. My friend is a triathlete and I was going to send it to him to check out.
I love my Bolt (much more than I did my Garmin 530), and I really wanted this to be that Garmin Fenix 6 rival that would allow me to switch. But, I'd miss those features. I've just decided to wait for some of these updates that are promised to see if they get it closer.
I dig the hardware! Seems really well built and the menus are even pretty slick to look at but without the basic wellness tracking and other things I mention it's a tough sell. Thanks for watching!
I don't think Wahoo will ever have those metrics if I'm being honest. They focus on a minimalist view to make the device user friendly. Their main selling point is simplicity
@@triathlonsean9511 you're right, I suspect. I had a service call with Wahoo to talk about my new Kikr trainer, and the guy I spoke to was working on the Rival, as well. We had a pretty good conversation about the watch in general (he wasn't permitted to say anything specific), but the general vibe I got was that they were focused on the simplicity part of it, rather than sleep metrics, readiness score, etc. I would like to see the ability to access historical info -- steps, calories, etc. I would also like to see the ability to bring activities recorded on other trackers (apple watch, strava, etc.) into the Wahoo app. We didn't discuss that part, it's just want I'd like to see.
@@ZachGrabill yes to be expected with their history. I'll be doing a review on one myself on my channel so will be interesting to see if any firmware has changed since this one. Feel free to check it out soon
Consider doing an addition to this review. Wahoo has made several Firmware updates (as you suggested) and I would like your take on them. I recently purchased a Rival as a replacement to my Coros 2 that I cracked in a crash. Great video. Thanks.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see what I can do!
Nice vid - today I checked the 0.75 speed mode for your video. Much better to understand but a bit too slow ;-) So please try to speak 0.9 by standard :D (After switching back to standard it feels like I pressed the fast forward button) - you got a new follower. Like your videos. Coming back to the watch: A bit too much frame in comparison to the screen size imo. And a bit less activities. What about music on the watch (or did I miss that point?)
Glad to hear the speed toggle helped! I'll work on that .9x speed haha! Yeah, there's no music or navigation on the Element Rival. They really designed this to be a straight up sports tracker... And that's about all it does. Thanks for watching!
Great review! Nice work. My own quest for the perfect new watch has driven me into your arms :) I was hoping you could guide me a little bit if I provide my background and what I am looking for in a sports watch. So, I do quite a lot of running. About 80km / week split between trails, parks and urban areas. In terms of races I have done mostly half marathons and the occasional ultra marathon and trail race. I am currently training to get a good result in a full marathon and would also like to participate in some more, maybe longer (so far 50k is the max) ultra marathons. Lastly, I am considering to try out a triathlon, to see if I like it.
Now, what I find important in a sports watch is accuracy in GPS and heart rate data, battery life, barometer, detailed training data and feedback, the ability to upload gpx files in order to follow routes from the watch. I guess in that order. What I don't care about is smart watch functions. NFC payments, Music, phone notifications, a fully detailed map..... not super important/can live without. My budget is about 300-600 dollar, in that range. What would you recommend? I have the Polar Grit X, Polar Vantage V (2), Coros Pace 2, Coros Apex on my short list. Garmin is also great of course, but the Fenix 6 series is too expensive to me, the FR945 looks awesome, but has too much extra's I don't care about, the FR245 is great but lacks the barometer.... It's difficult.
Any input would be very much appreciated :)
ps: I have the TomTom adventurer at the moment. I always liked that watch a lot but it's really at the end of it's use and life span now.
If you're not too keen on the smartwatch stuff either a Coros or Polar will suit your needs. Coros seems like it would be more up your alley with the Pace 2 or Apex. The Apex gives you some navigation features and a bit more battery life. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit It does. Thanks. I am now edging towards the Apex
Excellent idea to show how the watch (size) looks on your 16.5cm diameter wrist at 3:24!
I’ve been seeing it requested in the comments pretty often so I’ll make it a regular thing moving forward!
16.5 cm diameter wrist. Does an elephant even have a 16.5 diameter foot?
I'll wear it around my calf!
@@LeePrice82: You're right! Circumference it is.
Wahoo nailed HR there. Nice
In my testing it's pretty solid. I know other reviewers have had issues but that wasn;'t the case for me. 🤷♂️
a review of G-shock GBD-H1000 would be great :D
I've tried to get one! I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching.
Even tho it says kicker in activity it will work with other brand trainer as well.
Oh good to know! Thanks for the tip.
I think you missed the main feature of this watch and the must have for triathletes: touchless transition.
In addition, you can edit the transition zones afterwards so that the correct splits are also issued for the transition zones; e.g. for Strava ...
I'm not sure about a purchase myself yet. There should be more things in the future that you know from other watches.
For sure! Touchless transitions seems really cool. As I mention in the video though I'm mainly a runner and don't have a means of testing how good it works. I'll leave that to DC Rainmaker and Desfit. In this video I wanted to look at it from the perspective of a runner to see if it would be worth it. Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit, yes, I was aware of that. I'm now thinking about not replacing my Suunt 9 baro with this watch and buying the Rival as a second watch for the triathlon, because this one feature is already appealing. However, I don't want to miss out on some missing items. All in all, that's a relatively high price to pay if I really should buy the watch just because of this one feature.
Wahoo schooled Garmin in the sensor department when they pushed out super compatible sensors. Forced Garmin to add Bluetooth to their sensors because Wahoo just ate their market share. But Garmin learned quick and added Bluetooth compatibility to their high end watches and also their sensors. Not sure if Wahoo can take on Garmin in the watch department. Although they do have quite the following in the biking department. Just wished they made a less bulkier watch for triathlon. They may have had a better chance with that, since Garmin is not really catering to tiny wrists for trip watches. 735xt was good, but it's long in the tooth. The Fenix 6x is small enough but still a bit heavy at over 60g.
What about the 745? Sounds like it’s right up your alley!
@@ChaseTheSummit yes, that's a great watch for triathletes. No maps though. Would have been nice if they fit the 945 goodness in a smaller watch like the 745 or even the 45s for the small wrist ladies like my wife 👍
Great review . However difficult for it to match Garmin’s tried and tested ecosystem.
Yeah, they're new! Hopefully they catch up quick with firmware updates because I really do like the hardware. Thanks for watching!
For all wahoo cyclists this is very attractive.
Would you go for Suunto 9 Peak or Wahoo Element Rival?
nice review! but i think i preffer garmin ecosystem...
Thanks for watching!
following questions 1. Is this good for trekking in high altitude 2. does it have a navigation visual
It could be used for high altitude trekking but there might better options in this price range. It does not have any navigation features as of yet.
It conmects to Apple Health. What about Samsung Health? Good video BTW
I believe if you have an Android phone it will allow you to connect to Google Fit. Not sure about samsung though.
Can you use the watch like you would your biking computer? Does it partner with all the wahoo sensors? I ask because I have a wahoo computer for my road bike and would like to either purchase another computer for my mtb or the watch. I would like the watch as I have broken items on the handlebar in the past. Does anyone know if it can be paired to wahoo sensors including the heart rate monitor?
Yes, and there's actually a really cool feature within the Wahoo ecosystem called "Seamless Transfer" if your bike computer is also a Wahoo device. Learn more about it here: support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018694659-Using-ELEMNT-RIVAL-with-ELEMNT-BOLT-ROAM
Great Video Dave. Really liked it.
May i ask a little question? Would you buy a 945 right know? Knowing the 955 is not so far away? I can’t decide what to do ;-(((
I'm in the exactly same position! I own a Polar Vantage M now but want to switch to Garmin for (since I have they feeling you get a lot more for what you pay at Garmin). I saw the Garmin FR745, but that's lacking built-in maps which makes me want to wait for the FR955
@@ThijsOost I don’t know if i should wait or go for the 945. One thing for sure, you won’t get the 955 for 500$ like now since the 745 is in this price range.
@@ChiocciMicaele That's true, the FR945 is at a great price now. Or maybe I can miss the maps and I should go for the FR745.. Difficult choice 😂
@@ThijsOost Yes, me too. I don’t need the maps. I can’t decide. Dave could really help on this 😂😂🤷🏻♂️
Yeah! I love the 945 and it's at an amazing price right now. The 955 will certainly be more expensive and who knows what features will be added?
I think that many functions of todays watches are gimmicks, but I bought a Fenix 1 6 years ago because of the track navigation and the option to setup trainings like a fartlek are things I would not want to miss.
The Fenix 1 is still a great watch. It was ahead of its time. Funny to think it has better battery life than most options released today AND has mapping built in! Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit Absolutely, I used this "unofficial" map feature quite often. Unfortunately my F1 suddenly died after 3 years of usage.
Just fyi, your affiliate link for the Wahoo watch isn't quite right, or maybe Amazon doesn't carry this watch? Good review though, thanks.
Yeah unfortunately it's not in stock on amazon so it's resorting to the Amazon Search instead. I'll update it once available. Thanks for watching!
When the price isn't an issue, Garmin Fenix 6 or Wahoo Element Rival? To me the Wahoo looks better, but can it keep up with Garmin's features, software, and hardware? Thanks.
As I mention in the video. The Rival is a really niche product in its current state. I'm hoping they add more features in the future to make it more competitive. That said, if you like the look and don't care about all of the other stuff like sleep tracking, fitness tracking, etc.. It could be a good option.
@@ChaseTheSummit Thxsm. Love your videos. Yeah, I've been looking for a simple yet quality fitness watch and this one caught my eye. I was attracted to the Fenix 6 but to me, I feel like I would be wasting money as I would not need all of the extra functions. I did waste my money on a fossil gen 5 and just want to make sure that this watch is capable of being my daily driver.
Big watch, small screen? Looks interesting tho.
A lot of modern sports watches are still using smaller displays for some reason except for some of the recent Garmins like the 745 and Fenix 6 models. I think it's something to do with battery life but who knows! Thanks for watching!
I’d prefer to not talk about that 945 HR track. Wow, that was baaaad... Wahoo did a decent job on the HR sensor based on your test.
The 945 bombed on that run haha! Not sure why, I've had better results before. Wahoo indeed is doing a decent job with HR tracking which is good news!
Yeah, same here. Thanks for the insight as always!
No sleep tracking or step tracking. No solid optical HR sensor drove me to the Fenix 6. I waited for Wahoo's answer for a long time and this was unfortunately a bit of a fail in my eyes.
Garmin just needs to improve their partner integration and they'd be miles ahead.
Wahoo right now has the best partner integration
There's a ton of potential here with the Element Rival. Really looking forward to future firmware releases from them!
@@ChaseTheSummit agreed let's hope for a bright sport/smart watch future for Wahoo . Until then. Many will opt for the fully loaded Garmin models
The Rival cannot compete with Garmin. It is the first watch from Wahoo though...
On the other hand Wahoo’s phone up is the cat’s meow. Makes it stupid easy to connect and configure the watch or the element line of bike computers. Farming should really take note and stem up their game when it comes to companion app.
Their app is quite nice! I only wish it had a bit more features and a way to track trends over larger periods of time.
is ambit3 sport still actual?
I'm not sure I understand your question.
@@ChaseTheSummit is suunto ambit3 sport still a good choise?
Can't see the screen.
Sorry bout that! A combination of bad lighting on my part and a rather dull display on the Rival.
get a road bike !!!
People keep telling me to do that lol.
@@ChaseTheSummit that would the best option 4u...runners only need to buy running shoes... roadies a road bike..