GROWING ALGAE SO I CAN SHOW YOU HOW TO GET RID OF IT...
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- I really want to show you step by step how to get rid of algae, but all my tanks are pretty much algae free. So I decided to grow some algae on purpose!
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Well if you think of algae as "plants" you can basically grow them for free. But of course you want to grow nice algae. There is a lot of goldfish keepers that grow green algea carpet in the bare bottom tanks and it looks amazing. I will be releasing video very soon (next week) of my attempt of Algae-scape, River tank full of algae. Realy looking forward finding out how the whole tank will look like after few months of long light duration. Cheers MJ.
Looking forward to that video :)
Try to reproduce the ammonia spike by overfeeding. This is a common problem in beginner tanks as well. And I think that's the reason for the BBA.
You can also try to reproduce what will happen due to an excess of oxygen in the area, insufficient or excessive flow in the aquarium.
It's a really fun and, in my opinion, unique project to try to grow a particular type of algae by trying different methods and then get rid of it.
This is pretty much right, BBA pops out on my tank when I first handle my first tank, which I still pretty inexperienced, resulting into me overstocking fish and overfeed them, with less plants. Those are pretty much what beginners did and they always made BBA everytime. MJ could replicate this
My tanks have no measurable ammonia, but inadequate/variable CO2 and excess Phosphate or Nitrate and light have seen BBA. Eutrophication results definitely in blue green and excess light results in green algae in various forms. Years of research links excess Nitrate and especially Phosphate combined with warmer water and higher light levels to terrible green/blue green algae blooms. BBA is one of the most complicated issues, George Farmer has an excellent recent video on this very topic.
@@williammcdowell6257 Measured levels of ammonia are dangerous for the inhabitants of the aquarium, and algae is no longer such a problem)) I mean short-term spikes. Filters handle this without any problems. Phosphates certainly also affect the appearance of BBA. In fact, phosphates are also a product of the breakdown of waste, including uneaten food. And many avoid the use of fertilizers with phosphates due to the possibility of BBA appearence. It's also a great topic to experiment with)
@@nyhotetotniknezaniat Yep. BBA is often a real challenge in pretty good tanks. And yes ref. ammonia, even with a dead adult angel fish (it was at least 5 years old when it passed away) in a two foot tank (it was being bullied in my large tank), good substrate, healthy plants and a mature internal filter and there was no smell and no measurable (admitted with an amateur reagent kit) ammonia. BBA is the least well explained in my experience, I have had it on my CO2 diffuser and filter outlet in a tank where I have had lush growth of Rotala macrandra and carpeting plants. Which I found very frustrating. I do not know how to deliberately culture BBA, and in my experience it takes time to appear. Thanks for the reply.
Dear MJ, if you want to create black brush algae, I think you should fluctuate your Co2 levels. Unstable levels of Co2 eventually result in absolutely black brush algae.
I liked your idea of taking a healthy, balanced tank and trying to upset it and then recover it. It was really nice to see the outcome that you ended up getting. It showed that once you get your tank where it needs to be, it is harder to upset it. Keep up the great educational videos!
wow man ! such a brilliant idea and video, keep going mate, eagerly waiting for the next video .
Very informative. We love your feeds, we learn a lot from them.
Thank you Neddy!
Great video and wonderful experiment. It's great to know with a healthy plant mass and stable aquarium the changes didn't affect it too much. I've been preaching and telling all my friends to try the lean method. It's worked well for me and I find many are over dosing
Merci pour tenter plein d'expériences , c'est très intéressant , j'aime ta chaîne pour cela !!!
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Amazing video! This is why you’re my favorite aquascape TH-camr🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
As always ..informative and interesting
My dear brother, thank you for the useful information you have given, I follow you all the time, you are doing successful work, with love from turkey izmir.
Excellent idea! Look forward to seeing you cure all the algae, might help me! Agree to add fish food / over feed the tank.
Keep up the good work mark💪
Always!
Looking forward to seeing you deal with green hair algae. I have issues with it at the moment. Growing in my Java moss. Hard to get rid off.
Man you’re awesome 👏🏻. You make everything very simple. Even the beginner can make such a beautiful aquarium just by following your methods. Hope next time you will see some bba nd sturgon algae 😛
I like seeing you trim the plants
Nice experiment 👍🏻
very helpful video sir
6:25 I was really attacked when you said "overdose nutruents like many other people do" 🤣
Love you’re videos,
Was you doing a part 2 of curing peoples algae video?
Yep part 2 is coming!
Loved this idea. I think the new tank idea will work.
I have a 4ft tank (55gallon) set up in April with heavy plants and a lot of community fish. I've battled hair algae (but no other kind) from the start, but only on the floating plants and on the mosses. Lights on a schedule, no more than 60% intensity and minimal blue light, no measurable nitrates, hard water.
We do have a LOT of iron in our well water though - excess iron would be one way to get this type fir the experiment. I was advised by Cory at Aquarium Co-op to keep water changes low so that plants will use more of that iron - something else to perhaps try?
My other great algae grower is a walstad jar infested with staghorn algae that was in a sunny window for far too long after setting it up. Consider trying this with a jar setup that is a lot harder to get into and clean maybe?
It’s good to know that a stable aquarium can be bought back if an error is made. But, for a beginner, I think it would be great to have a video showing the errors that can occur and how to deal with them. I would have loved that back when I started and may still come in handy 😀
btw een voedings video is miss een leuk idee. Je hebt er zoveel om uit te kiezen..
I have seen people growing algae on purpose in specific spots to boost filtration, especially when the tank has no plants. The king of DIY has a video on that, it is very informative.
This video was also great and you are teaching and inspiring a lot of people!
LBR aquatics and Rachel O'leary have some informative videos about that and some good examples. Searching "algae carpet aquarium" here on yt will give good results too
Hi Mark.What are those small trimming scissors called and where can I get some.Many Thanks.Love the videos by the way.
Very good idea. Keep up with that. Go the beginners route, or ask in your city for beginners with infestations, so that you could visit, apply your medicine/routine and check back after some days.
That would be cool indeed!
This one is great idea too… 👍🏼
Looking forward to the experiment as I want to grow algae on rocks so I can feed my Tropheus colony.
I currently have an algae-scape but its not on purpose. I just learned to embrace it and see how it goes.
P.s. love that you show your “failed experiments” 😀😀
Salut mark, alors l'idee de me comprendre les algues est super intéressantes, moi aussi je laisse un bac pourrir mais comme toi que des algues vertes dinc faciles a résoudre le problème. Maintenant j'ai testé a triplé mes engrais (micro et macro) par jour. Augmenter le co2 par 2 et diminuer l'éclairage de 8 a 6h. Le résultat des cornes de cerfs commence à apparaître. Et des filamenteuses. J'atend la suite avec impatience. Et comme d'habitude super video.
Hé mon pote! Donc, vous avez augmenté le CO2 et diminué la lumière et après cela, des algues cornes de cerf ont commencé à apparaître ? C'est intéressant... J'espère que vous pourrez vous en débarrasser 🙃
@@MJAquascaping justement pour s'en débarrasser je veux essayer le peroxyde de carbone. Sur une dose de 10% du volume du bac brut. Mais j'atends aussi ta méthode. 😉
Salut mark pardon je rectifie ses peroxide d'hydrogène ( eau oxygénée). Désolée pour le malentendu. Mais le co2 liquide marche pour la BBA. Mais j'atends d'en avoir pour essayer aussi. 😉
Although not the experiment you intended, I took a lot from it. Not to panic too much about getting everything else perfect as healthy plants seems to make the biggest difference.
I recommend an entire year heavy exchaning plants on fb. I catched everything you can imagine! And more :D
- bba and cladophora is more an infection than mistreted water.
Leuke proef. Gewoon flink wat aio doseren. fosfaat sky high ;) Verwarming zo warm mogelijk. en een luchtpompje. Uiteraard zonder vis.
Would love to see you remove staghorn algae, because that type of algae destroys all my scapes. They come again and again. Frustrated. Love your channel by the way. Greetings from Norway.
I always say a bit of algae is good, a lot is a disaster. I personally love algae on wood and stone, it gives the tank a very natural, etheral feel. But I hate algae on plants, specially hair algae.
vind het al knap dat je het zo kan laten groeien ;-) zou helemaal leip worden haha.
Leuke bakjes heb je staan. Ben je tevreden over de Twinstar E series? Wil een tapijt leggen met bijv. Monte Carlo lukt dat hiermee?
Tapijtje gaat prima met die Twinstar 👍🏻 wel met CO2, zonder wordt het al iets lastiger
Another great video, thank you.
Would you mind trying to replicate a beginner aquarium setups?
I’m thinking: by the window, no CO2, air bubbles as it is hot and beautiful ;) and overfeeding? (At least that is where I was when everything went bonkers…)
Yeah I'm definitely going to do that!
Hi MJ, just a suggestion. if you want to grow BBA, try directing your CO2 current towards either a hardscape/slow growing plants. BBA seem to really like high Co2 environments.
yea george farmer had a vid hypothesising this a few days ago. bba just loves my buce and anubia nana next to the co2 diffuser.
8:30 The shrimp are LOVING that algae 🤣 🦐
Thanks for sharing your failure to fail! 🤣
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Cuando buscas las algas no las encuentras y cuando no las quieres ahí las tienes, jajajaja. Buenísimo
The one time I had to deal with a massive BBA outbreak is when I tried adding phosbond to my filter. Phosphates were always quite high and I was concerned about the N-P ratio. So I reduced the amount of phosphates and the effects were almost immediate! So try dosing N-P-K seperately and screw up the ratio's, see what happens 😊👍
Pues… no se pudo, lástima Margarito!
Saludos desde Chihuahua México.
Hi MJ, I always hear you said Lean Dosing, and I know lean dosing is to dose micro only. Did you follow the manufacturer recommendation dose on the label for the micro or still need to cut it into half or 1/3 ?. Looking for your opinion. Thank in advance.
In my experience you should only overdose the micro nutrients (chelated iron) without extra NPK and without CO2... This should result in your requested staghorn and black brush algae. Looking forward to your experiment to continue. (if you mess up too many variables at once you probably can't attribute the algae to a specific change)
be happy that you don't have spores of the algea types you are looking for in your aquarium. set a new one up and get water from infected aquariums from sea / shop / friends and mix them all together. hope to sea the video!
My only tank I have black beard algae in is my low tech tank that has been running for years but I rescaped it several months ago and since the rescape my Anubias nana petite has been getting black beard algae! My first time ever experiencing it and that’s the only plant it’s growing on everything else is faster growing
What info do you get from measuring the phosphate and iron, how does that relate to the tank?
Hi, one question: at what percentage of light intensity did you set the Twinstar ceiling light?
a few months ago I created an algae infestation in one of my tanks just by giving it more light, because I wanted more snails.
It was very small scale, but now I have plenty of snails 👍
You should try using hard water, it'll do the trick
This is the way
How many gallons is that tank it looks like the perfect size for what I wanna do
I triggered hair algea (not on purpose) in a non co2 aquarium that was extremely healthy by adding aggressive 24h surface aggitation, along with the water temp reaching 80 degrees for most of the day. Incidenly there was also mexican potting clay in the substrate as an iron source, im not sure if this added to the problem.
Man, I love algae, when it grows on good place such as woods, my wood now are green and I like it😅😅
Cool experiment
what if the shrimp were just eating the BBA before it grew big enough for you to see it?
also, inmy experience BBA grows on hard scape (initially). what if the green spot algae was overpowering it so could never have space to grow? maybe clean the rocks but leave the glass alone?
My lower flow sponge filter tanks are more prone to hair algae than my tanks with stronger filtration methods. Maybe try that in your next experiment?
What test kit is that? Thanks in advance.
Put the co2 solenoid on a timer with an inconsistent timing
MJ please tell me about the size of this tank!
I’m with @PCra. I’ll send you a tank as well. Hahaha
Thanks for all the valuable info
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@@MJAquascaping Someone must have definitely told you that you look like the actor who plays Jaqen in GoT. Anyway, I'm a beginner into the fish keeping and aquarium hobby and your TH-cam channel is such a gold-find! Thank you so much for everything
My nerite snails eat any algae that appears. They're voracious. My tank only has some algae on the floating plants that the nerites can't reach.
I noticed my moss balls produce algae fast (they're in a separate bowl). Is this a good algae for my snails and shrimp? Should I add them to my tank, they've been quarantined for 7 mo now to ensure no zebra mussel infestation.
Maybe try the same again but with a new tank inc immature filter media. Maybe incosistsnt CO2 as well, you will get diamtoms and potentially some BBA.
Hey, You can set up a new scape just with gravel without nutri in the Substrat.
This is how i started Inclusive a wrong fertilasation and a Strong light i had many many problems with my scape ( bba staghorn cyano hair algea) and i dont get it to stable the Tank
Greetings Christopher
Can u help me how to deal with hydra in a shrimp tank
Personally I've not had the problem at all but I have seen a lot of BBA when there's a lot of CO2. Especially if it's like an inline diffuser, with a good flow, whatever is in that flows path gets BBA. Take a look at George Farmer's latest videos and there is one in particular that shows exactly what I'm talking about. Much love from the US tho, keep rockin out bro!
Ga naar een dierenwinkel waarvan de plantenbak al vol zit met algen. Ik heb die fout wel eens gemaakt en de algen van de winkel zaten zo door de hele bak. Nu alles wel onder controle co2 en slakjes doen wonderen
How do I get rid of brown hair algae?
My lights are on for 6h a day, I don't feed my shrimp but once a week. I also have otocinclus and they don't eat the brown hair algae. I do water changes every Saturday at 25%. I clean out as much as the algae, but the next day it's full again.
Being a expert at growing hair algae (not on purpose) I’ve noticed my only tanks with hair algae it’s main cause is high phosphates rather then extra lights and nutrients, found this out by trying different methods you taught me and I managed to eliminate all algae except hair and realised only thing that killed that was lowering phosphates and I notice it creep back when I let the phosphates creep up.
Thank you for this info. I’ve been battling with hair algae for weeks. So I decided to remove all the plants with hair algae and replace with new healthy plant, made the lights dimmer and use lean dosing method. Since that, I’ve finally have a stable tank for the first time.
@@mabibs6999 the big mistake I made with this was I had root tabs in substrate and changed my mind about the plants and thought root tabs would be ok because it’s not in water Column but every time I done a water change or gravel vacuum it just was releasing back in to the water I had to manually take all the gravel out wash it through then put it back in the tank and it was the only difference to lower my phosphates.
Hey! Thanks for the nice video. I have started my aquarium 6 weeks ago and now my aquarium is struggling with hair algae.
I have a high tech aquarium, 60 liter. Lights on for 8 hours, CO2 for 6 hours and a filter hang on filter. I add 1 ml of liquid fertilizer (Micro and Macro) per day.
This is my progress so far:
Week 1-3 dark start with aqua soil and spider wood + only filter
week 4 100% water change & adding in-vitro plants and Co2 (Fully planted)
week 5 30% water change (adding Co2 and liquid fertilizers)
week 6 30% water change + adding fish and shrimp.
My Ph is stable at 6.8 throughout the weeks (testing 2 times per week). KH is going up and down from 5-6. No ammonia or nitrate spikes.
Problem starts:
Just in the beginning of week 6 I am getting hair algae outbreak in my aquarium. Now I am trying to get rid of it.
Research:
I have done some research and they are all pointing to these two things: Increase CO2 (and adding 1 ml Carbo with the fertilizer).
Adding more fertilizer (not overloading) should do the trick. Because of plant growing faster and will absorb more then the algae can take.
That's what I have read in multiple book/sites.
Testing:
So what I did now is increasing the CO2 and add (easy)Carbo with fertilizers to see of this helps.
If there are people with more or better suggestions, please do (I have a ton spend on plants) so I take it very seriously.
Lights are on for 8 and CO2 is only on for 6?
@@MJAquascaping Yes, So the light goes on first. One hour later the Co2 is on. Then at the 7th hour of light, the Co2 is off and one hour later the light.
@@NetherViking I see! It’s better to have the CO2 on earlier then the lights 😊 so start the CO2 1 hour before the lights go on. This way as soon as the light goes on the plants already have enough Co2 available to start photosynthesising!
@@MJAquascaping Ah that would explain the fact that I measure the correct amount of Co2 in my aquarium. But it is the period of co2 that I give to the plant is to short. Well now that you say it like this, it sounds very logical. Going to try this. :) Thanks!
@@NetherViking Just to expand upon MJ Aquascaping's explanation - The plants need co2 when they are photosynthesising but they don't need co2 when they are not. The normal way of achieving this is to have the co2 come on an hour before the lights so that as soon as the light come on the plants have plenty of co2 already in the water. The co2 should then go off an hour before the lights go off so during the last hour of 'daylight' the plants can use up the co2 already on the water but it does not get replenished. Overnight the level of co2 in the water is low until the following morning when it again comes on an hour before 'sunrise'.
I have some questions about keeping macroalgae
I once messed up with my plants, pulling up three well rooted big criptocoryne. the tank become green water after a week. then I put lots of floating plants. after a month the floating plants are taking over so the water is clear again.
could be nightmare if it's a gsa. they grow on plants too, sucks if it grows on anubias or buce lol. as for bba, i've never had that problem.
only green hair and bga. still it's very easy to maintain, put lots of pothos or floating plant and it will clear in no time. also water change and siphoning for bga😀
algae is my friend🤣 they produce oxygen for the ecosystem too hahaha
use mostly slow growing epiphytes and blast them with co2 and light. Seemed to make plenty of BBA for me 🤓
Maybe a small pinch of fish flakes every day would help.
With some really cheap fish food. Cheap fish food deteriorate the water really quick. Also adding bio mass works like a charm.
Do all of what you did and increase the temperature to 29 degrees celsius. I live in the tropics and it's a challenge to bring down the water temperature. Things go wrong much faster when there's high light, high nutrients and high temp.
Overfeed with fish food, increase temp of tank, put some BBA from another tank into this tank to start the spores population, keep lights on for long time at highest intensity, maximize filter flow, remove cleaner fish and invertebrates, and stop CO2. That should do it. :)
You probably need the water to get a lot more dirty. Usually black algae I've seen appear in aquariums with heavy feeder big fish that produce a lot of waste. The green spot algae is probably keeping the water clean rn, so maybe try to leave some food in there to produce amonia and maybe other types of algae will appear
I think I keep getting major blue green algae outbreaks in my one twenty gallon tank. And nothing I’ve done has helped. I have lost over half my plants at this point in that tank and I’m at a loss with it. I just rescaped it and was wondering how to stop this if it starts again?
Blue green algae loves sunlight. After we rigorously fold all blinds the problems went away.
In my experience its usually something like this:
Greenspot/dust = too might light.
Stringy/hairy stuff = too much nutrients.
Black stuff = inconsistant co2/flow problems.
I think the reason why you didt get any string/hair algae was due to the healthy plant mass in the tank, but if u kept dosing like that for another 2-3 weeks I think it would have started to show up even with that plant mass
O jee down de rabbit hole called algea.. I am inn... Ik ben nu 35 jaar actief in de hobby en dit blijft een goed toppic!!! Dat kleine trim schaartje waar kan ik die krijgen ???
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@@MJAquascaping Ik heb hem gevonden en gelijk besteld. Thnx!!
We are literally beginners. We got the light on 24/7, no wonder why our 5gal tank has been covered in algae from the floor to the leaf surface. My poor plants couldn’t do photosynthesis and got rotten. 😭
I think your carpeting plant was soaking up most of the excess nutrients and preventing the substrate nutrients from leaking into the water column. Not sure, just guessing. From the video, it seems your plant carpet was not trimmed as much as the other plants. Makes me think of iwagumi style tanks that are able to maintain balance with just a carpeting plant and no others.
My tank is struggling big time. Tank is 9 months old and ever since I've added co2 (2 months ago) my plants are covered in brown algae (diatoms I am guessing) and deteriorating. No signs of any green or black algae. I don't think it's my water because I have a non planted 75 with crystal clear water and zero diatoms. Makes me want to tear down and start over, maybe without co2.
Hi, I set up my planted aquarium(50 liters) on 25th of March. Everything was perfect until the first trimming session. After I trimmed the plants algae appeared and now I can't get rid of them. I did the blackout for 5 days and algae in the carpet didn't die and just continue to spread. I have pressurized Co2, Chihiros A 2 series on 75% and 8 hours of light(2 hours combined sunrise and sunset). Adding Neo solution 1 and 2, 1 mil for 2 days. There is 10liters of neo soil in the aquarium. Aquarium is heavily planted. There is thread algae, staghorn algae and some green spot algae. Plants now look stunted and weak. Dou you have some advice how to fix the problem?
Light Length maybe or strength also hair algae likes flow
@@emberframe6994 I have a strong flow, using jbl cristalprofi e902 but I reduced the flow on the outlet to half.
@@antoniogec6937 have you done a water test
@@emberframe6994 only phosphate and nitrate, they look okay
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one of beginners mistake is using contaminated plants with out quarantine or bleaching.
why didn't he let the snail clean the algae? instead of needing the water change, is the snail job really that slow? bcs my aquarium rn is algae infested with hairs and i bought snails so they can clean it up, a lot of people said no need water change just let the natural things do it, and i also not feeding them but only algae.. Is there something different between aquascapers and those videos of father fish? but tbh this video is really good opened my mind how to do things.
Hahahaha you are too good for grow algae hahaha. I thinking you need more bioload en the tank. detritus a lot.... for bba and fluctuate co2
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Add in natural sunlight mate, easy way to grow algae
A successfully failed experiment. It was still interesting. I would enjoy a follow-up video with a starter tank.
They say unstable co2 levels, as well as too much flow, trigger BBA...
Maybe you did not have any spores of BBA in the aquarium, it won't evolve just by itself. Just import something with a bit of BBA and string algae and see if it goes. (sounds like a horrible idea).
As long as it's not hair algae, BBA, or blue green, it's all good.
How about stop ferts and co2. Increase light, add fish food 3 times per day, and finally if you can bring some plants or objects infested with BBA
One point I never see being address in any algae video is: How do the algae cells of all possible species enter your tank in the first place? Algae is a living being and cannot be created out of thin air. Typically those cells are carried into the tank with the plants, hardscape, WCs, etc... but being this tank mature it is theoretically possible there were simply no residual cells of those other algaes there to reproduce. And if you use RO water, then new cells are not being reintroduced via the WCs. This is just a hypothesis of course.
Using an already established filter. Using anything else than in vitro plants. Buying shrimp/fish/snailes. There is literally no way to avoid algae entering your system, unless you: Have an empty tank, in vitro plants, no stock, no hardscape. :)
@@neddyfox4538 So there is "literally" a way... And I was referring to his specific tank, not sure anything has been introduced there in many months...
@@dddmmm21 I understand your point. However, once introduced, a tank is never 100% without algae. There are always traces in the column, but they can't take over, unless something goes wrong. And that's what MJ was trying to achieve.
New set up and to much food is succes.
so if i don't want the algae i need to do the opposite of what you do. That's the first time i think i know what i should be doing XD
Props to you for ruining your beautiful aquascape just to educate us! I think you can start a new scape with any inert substrate and only use liquid fertz, that will surely be a recipe for a beautiful algae salad😁
If you need a tank with algae issues I can send you mine from the us... Water and all lol...
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