Greylon Baejoy I worked at Toys R Us very briefly. They only paid me minimum wage despite pulling night shifts five days a week and on top of that my work was never good enough. I know Christopher’s pain here
@@Jamie-kv9eg Youth and Stupidity Don't always go hand n hand just like old age and wisdom. Sometimes the Gods flip the coin either your Born Beaautiful with Nothing else going for you.
Christopher was a broken person from early on in his life searching for the father he never knew and Tony exploited that for his own gain. You can see the torment that dysfunctional father-son relationship stirred in him during scenes like this one throughout the show. Christopher believes he's going to Hell for Tony's approval and doesn't get any recognition or proper gratitude for his efforts. What a terrific character.
Christopher's actor missed an opportunity by not becoming the father he would have liked to have. "When one has not had a good father one must create one."
I don't believe it's dysfunctional at all. There's plenty of examples you can find where Tony and Chris have one of their moments. They do love each other, they just trapped in showing love through subtle body language. They never spoke out of their feelings how you'd expect.
@@antoniodecruz7446 That's a good way of looking at it.I like that.Unfortunately for me my children's mother has zero interest in me being in their lives,all she wants is money,which I have very little of.Its rough
@@norbath1650 he had a great career and is still in a ton of shit. Not everything he does has to be goodfellas or the sopranos, if he did he’d be a type casted actor and he doesn’t want to be that, as id imagine most of them don’t.
@@norbath1650 First of all, why say some stupid shit like that? And it’s not even close to being true. The guy’s been in over 50 films that span from the late 80s all the way up to the present? That’s not a good career?
In this scene, Chis says something like "Tony B could get us all killed with NY, and yet Tony has to think about what to do with him. With me, he doesn't have to think". This turned out to be eerily accurate. Tony was very reluctant to kill his cousin. But with Chris, he truly had no reservations.
lol what are you talking about. If Christopher was anyone else, he would have been killed much earlier. The drug abuse alone would have probably gotten him killed. Made him unreliable.. and a weak link to law enforcement. plus him shooting Tony's car, and then coming into the Bing and pointing a gun and pulling the trigger.. even though it was empty. So yeah.. if anyone besides Christopher did that, he would have been whacked much earlier. so Tony had plenty of reservations.
@@ocd9033 That comment is talking about the exact moment when Tony kills him. Once Tony decided to do it, he choked Chris without hesitation or remorse.
@@ureallysuckglobes That doesn't make sense though. Just bc he finally did it, doesn't mean there was no reservations about doing it. Like I said, if literally anyone else did the shit Christopher did, they would have been killed much much sooner. Including Tony B. That's reservation. And a lot of reservations at that. If he had none, Chris would have been killed much earlier. Like I said.
Eh, there's more nuance to it than this. Chris was allowed to get away with things that would have been a death sentence for a random soldier. And driving a boss under the influence, and getting him into an accident? Who wouldn't have been killed over that, in the mob world?
Man the way Christopher delivers his lines is just phenomenal. Grade A acting. A lot of people I know say the don't like the mobster aspect of the show, but the character development is perfect.
I think why Christopher is the best character in the show is because he is the only character with a sliver of a conscience surrounded by sociopaths. That’s the core of his addiction, he has no meaning and no purpose but it kills him inside unlike the sociopaths he’s surrounded by who’s only purpose is selfish desire
The "That's the guy, Adrianna" line is my favorite quote in the entire show, and I geeked out completely when they referenced it in The Many Saints of Newark
@Kamaru Usman didn't reference as much as I figured it would. And it wasn't much of a cheap story since they didn't really have to supply any subplot other than the Dicky Moltisanti stuff but they did, and they could have been real cheap and given us more young Tony screentime but they didn't. But all in all, although the movie wasn't as gimmicky as I thought it'd be, definitely wasn't on-par with the show
"That's the guy Adrianna, my uncle Tony. The guy I'm going to hell for." One of Chris' most memorable lines when it comes to discussing Tony. Incredibly ironic to boot, as Tony was not only the reason Chris believed he was going to hell, but actually sent him there himself. Had he known that, maybe he wouldn't have gone to hell after all.
+Apple Bee Well if you are assuming hell in the Christian sense the murder of Emil did not send Chris to hell. In the Christian world view you go to hell for one reason...and it's not murder.
+knowsmebyname the bible says that even one lie will condemn someone to hell which is why Jesus had to die for every sin of every person, and that the only reason anyone has to go to hell to pay for their sins is because they "have not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." If you believe on Christ alone and what he did in his death burial and resurrection you can know for a fact you are on your way to heaven and never have to worry about going to hell because Christ died for all of your sins past present and future. God will chasten and punish a Christian for their wrongdoings in this earth but will not send them to he for any reason because the bible promises that "whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." If God takes it away, it was not eternal and didnt last forever. Jesus promises multiple times in the bible that once you come to him he will not send you to hell or kick you out of his family. the same way our parents will always be our parents. most people think being good can get you to heaven. unfortunately the bible says "there is none that doeth good; no not one." we've all sinned many times and can't trust in our own works to save us. the bible says heaven is a free gift completely paid for by Christ and that we receive it one time and are saved forever. the bible plainly states, "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." The bible says over and over that it's only faith that can save. not confessing to a priest, not taking communion weekly, not giving to charity, but believing on Christ and excepting the gift of salvation one time. the bible says "believe on the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life. " If you're trusting Jesus alone you don't have have to worry about going to hell. he won't let you down. the bible is clear Jesus is God manifest in the flesh (God became a person as Jesus) and that he is the one and only way to heaven and to escape hell. "he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him."-John 3:36. TH-cam search "the bible way to heaven" by Sanderson1611 for more info. it's a short video and will show you what God says about it.
Ok I read your little "essay" here and just want to point out you are COMPLETELY WRONG ON ONE OF YOUR OWN MAJOR POINTS: Jesus did not die for "ALL OF OUR SINS, PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE." Jesus died to forgive man of ORIGINAL SIN, because without forgiveness of original sin not a single person past present or future would be born without sin, and thus born to make their own choices to either sin or not. All he did in essence was "wipe the slate clean from birth" but after that there have been PLENTY OF SINNERS who (according to your very own dogman) go to hell (ever read Dante's Inferno? And Jesus had been crucified long before that)? Jesus doesn't remove all sins PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE BY DYING, he removed ORIGINAL SIN WHICH WAS CAUSED BY ADAM AND EVE. I'm not that into religion but even i know this from the years of bible school I took. Just by listening to Jesus' preaching and ACTING like a good person, did not make you aoog person and thus you were a sinner. Jesus led by example, he was a "fisher of men" and those that followed his example and lessons are the ones who were welcome into heaven. And let us not forget Jesus' last words: "Forgive them father, they know not what they do." Even as he lay dying he asked for the forgiveness of those sinning against him and begged for god to spare his wrath upon them. Pretty much what you said was just a rambling somewhat incoherent mess that completely missed the message, and point, of Jesus dying. Heaven is NOT A COMPLETELY FREE GIFT GIVEN BY JESUS GIVING HIS LIFE. IT SIMPLY REMOVED ORIGINAL SIN, thus allowing us, mere mortals, THROUGH FREE WILL the CHOICE to make of whether or not to sin farther and throw away the sacrifice Jesus made for us, or to embrace it, love him for it, and lead a good, simple, life, devoid of any extraneous luxuries, and commitment to the aid of the poor, sick, and dying both in word and action, by both donating things that we could go without and that the poor had not and needed in order to survive and even thrive, especially if the person giving them these things taught them the "holy message". Again, Im not a bible scholar, just someone who attended FAR TOO MANY YEARS OF first communion classes, first confession classes, confirmation and in some instaneces ,fulfill other sacraments by an ordained priest. Jesus's death did not "remove all sin for all of humanity" it removed ORIGINAL SIN, which was the intent, because without the removal of ORIGINAL SIN no babe, no child, no adult, no anyone, could have EVER made it into heaven even if they lead the most pious, frugal, best life possible. This again is all according to what the poster i am relying to write, as well as my own personal lessons and insights into Christianity, Catholic specifically, the religion I was raised with until the age of 14, and the very blatantly obvious reason of why Jesus died: to forgive ORIGINAL SIN, not ALL sin. If jesus' death forgave all sin, past, present, and future, why in the name of everything would people have to go to confessional? If your position is true, all of their sins are forgiven from the get go, so a person can go out, rape, pillage, and murder and it's all forgiven without any need for confession, absolution or any of the other holy sacraments because "Jesus died for ORIGINAL SIN, a sin that EVERY CHILD WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN WITH HAD JESUS NOT HAVE GIVEN HIS OWN LIFE, and therefore all people, regardless of Christianity, religion, or any good deed they may have done would have allowed them entrance into paradise , because they would have been born with a sign that was not-removable, no matter how many good deeds or great things they accomplished during life. This is why the Virtuous Pagans section of Datnes descent into hell exists: These "Virtuous Pagans exist not in a state of suffering but aside but rather in a sort of state of limbo: these are men who would have, had they accepted Jesus, ascended into heave, because they lead virtuous pious lives, never cheating or committing adultry, and worked for the betterment of man kind. In fact, some of these very same "virtuous pagans" contributions were so great in gods eyes and they were unable to know of jes existence because they were born before he The Son that is (one of the elements of god) that allowed some of them to ascend into heaven. So no, its not just about all the good you do after your born, but according to CHRISTIAN DOGMA some of these people WERE ALLOWED INTO HEAVEN , or at least denied the suffering of Hell and its rivers of excrement, and hell fire and beating, torture and rape of everyone ranging from babies who went baptized. Honestly man I think you should read the bible because there are so many things that you stated to be correct that are ust flat out wrong that im wondering if you eve opened up a cliffnotes
I don't think Chris was cut out for the mafia, he was just kinda born into that lifestyle. Too bad he figured that out for himself AFTER he was already a made guy.
He had huge potential but he had a huge maturity problem. Couple that with an addiction problem, recipe for disaster. Kinda reminded me of the class goof off who couldve been an excellent student if he applied himself.
@@rogergarrison4271 you have tony cutting up buddys and doing hits for him. not teaching chris how to earn. and when he makes a mistake you punish him hard. then you dont have his back when his trying to become healthy. you keep offering him drinks, then paulie insults chris's daughter and tony laughs like his neice just didnt get insulted... but let someone say that about meadow.....
Ultimately no one was really cut out for it anymore. Did a single person under 40 join the sopranos family and work out? It just wasn't in anyone's nature anymore to be a patient soldier for a long time in order to rise in an operation that was in decline anyways
1:18 Chris should have joined Ade and became an informant for the FBI. He would have taken down Tony, Paulie, Sil and everyone else. Plus he ane Ade could have been taken into witness protection and lived a good life together
I think it's amazing how he once says "I would follow you to the gates of Hell" and he ends up saying "That's the guy I'm going to Hell for." This show had such great writing.
So much insight into the characters in the short scene. Tony tells Christopher about a major fuck up in the cigarette operation he was overseeing and Christopher shrugs it off. He then asks Tony about an “executive- level” issue regarding Phil and Tony B. that is not really his concern. Like so many who climb the ladder too fast (or are pushed up it) Christopher pre-occupies himself with the high-level issues he believes he should get to work on while half-assing the work he’s been given to gain experience and prove his abilities with. It’s only when Tony tells Christopher that Paulie is now going to supervise him (and get a cut from his take) does he get the situation. In Christopher’s mind he is Tony’s peer and confidant. Tony just reminded him he still has a long way to go to prove his leadership. Of course instead of swallowing the bitter pill and learning from it, Chrissy sulks and complains to Adriana.
“Executive level decision”? You do know Chris is Tony’s number 2, his heir apparent, and tony b’s cousin. If anyone had the right to ask that question it’s Chris. And how are we mad at Chris for the cigarette shit, that isn’t even really his fault, when Tony’s procrastination on tony b is actively harming his family? Then he puts paulie in there, who is the burgess fuck up in the family?
I mean, you could also argue that Tony is too concerned with the small time shit and ignoring the major threats. And it comes back to bite him in the ass in a major way
None of his bussiness my ass lmfao, do you have any idea how big the tony b problem was it was literally impending doom on the entire family of courze a made guy who’s Tony’s cousin and successor has a right to know about it
@@thedangerwich5476Paulie is a worker and is generally reliable. He's a neurotic maniac who would kill you for $100 and it's said multiple times that he doesn't kick up his full share to Tony, but he undeniably gets the work done. The early scenes when Chrissy gets made show Paulie schooling Christopher on not being late with money, too. The only time i can think of that shows Paulie in a negative like (in terms of professionalism) is when he needlessly picks a fight with the Czech interior decorator in Pine Barrens, lol. Well, that and his tattling to Johnny Sack. He was just like his adoptive mother in that respect -- a gossip.
I wonder if Michael Imperioli wrote a lot of this character ? Maybe he has some kind of darkness in him because Christopher had fucking demons and the acting is so convincing it makes you wonder. In the show all of them were morally stumped or ambigous but his character stands out above the rest to me as tormented, and no matter the girl/money/power he was never happy.
I agree. He stood out from the rest to me because he's the youngest.. I often felt very sorry for him for what Tony puts him through. But then again I lost that feeling very quickly when beats the shit out of Adriana or did some other awfull thing.
I agree. He stood out from the rest to me because he's the youngest.. I often felt very sorry for him for what Tony puts him through. But then again I lost that feeling very quickly when beats the shit out of Adriana or did some other awfull thing.
great post bro ....I agree but I think he is just a great actor because what I have read he had a great childhood and has today a great life /kids/wife !
I used to work as a field tech for retail. And I saw dozens of manager’s offices with the motto “People might forget what you did, but not how you made them feel”. If Tony said the same thing in a respectful tone, Chris probably wouldn’t have lashed out. Bottom line “you can be demanding boss, but don’t demean your subordinates”
Chrissy boy was loyal to the cause man. Even after all the shit tony gave him he still went to him about adriana. A true Soldier. What a class act imperioli is. ❤
This is my fav scene in the series the acting is fucking amazing michael imperioli is a fantastic actor chrissy will always be my favorite tv show character and even in fiction
"Can I talk to you?...". When I first watched this episode, I thought to myself "That's Tony's way of saying that you're in trouble.". I was 15½ when this episode first aired & even then, I had a feeling that something was gonna go down between the 2 of them.
Imperoli is a fan of Morrissey and The Smiths. Heaven Knows i’m Miserable Now sums up his feeling perfectly here. “In my life Why do I smile At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?”
There was some great dialogue that helps convey deeply hurtful and traumatic things family members can say to each other. Tony’s quote about the open bar was too deep of a cut, and I could feel Chris’s ears ringing and the glossed eyes of just pure hurt
The one thing that Christopher keep doing wrong, among others things, is that he tell Adriana everything and that's not good. That's part of the reason why the Feds kept questioning her. She knew too much.
For some reason this scene reminded me of Anakin being denied the rank of master/member of the Jedi Council. Their relation all stems from the lack of respect due to their adolescence, and it resulted in both of them going mad.
I'm divided on this whole Tony vs Christopher thing. On one hand, it's undeniable that Tony undermines him and kicks him when he's down. That said, Tony also handed Chris the keys to the kingdom. He was to be the new boss of the family. It's not unreasonable to have higher standards for someone like that and even berate them at times to prepare them for the position. It's a complex dynamic.
This what I get like after every shift at work lmao
Same brotha
yep, hear you
I gave that Toys R Us pieces of my SOUL, Adiranna!
Soprano's comments are always the best.
Greylon Baejoy I worked at Toys R Us very briefly. They only paid me minimum wage despite pulling night shifts five days a week and on top of that my work was never good enough. I know Christopher’s pain here
Christopher is casually sipping wine, then after one conversation with Tony he's chugging vodka
MAJOR FUCKIN OPERATION
@TMWSITY 2 bottles only like 12 drinks bro lol
are we acting like 12 drinks isn't a lot?
I think you need the 12 steps bro
Yeah. But he got the “disease”
‘Casually’? He looked like he was making love to the wine.
after his rant, Adriana said " get me a drink, Spider"
"Aw looking for sympathy is that it sweety?" Woulda been a bit more cruel coming from Adriana.
@@kingofthehamsters And prolly the last thing she could have said lmao
Cutty n water
he's on the pay no mind list.
What am I a mirage?!
Christopher is the guy Adriana went to hell for .
😂😂😂💯
Drd20 She was young and naive, so you can’t really blame her. Plus Christopher actually made decent money. So that was probably exciting for her.
@@Jamie-kv9eg Youth and Stupidity Don't always go hand n hand just like old age and wisdom. Sometimes the Gods flip the coin either your Born Beaautiful with Nothing else going for you.
@Fuck You you were made up too, but hey we pretend you exist and throw you some attention until our hallucinations end. No sweat.
Fuck You 😎
Yeah, that too.
Christopher was a broken person from early on in his life searching for the father he never knew and Tony exploited that for his own gain. You can see the torment that dysfunctional father-son relationship stirred in him during scenes like this one throughout the show. Christopher believes he's going to Hell for Tony's approval and doesn't get any recognition or proper gratitude for his efforts. What a terrific character.
Christopher's actor missed an opportunity by not becoming the father he would have liked to have. "When one has not had a good father one must create one."
I don't believe it's dysfunctional at all. There's plenty of examples you can find where Tony and Chris have one of their moments. They do love each other, they just trapped in showing love through subtle body language. They never spoke out of their feelings how you'd expect.
Um, MrIlleism
, what? Their relationship is the definition of broken trust.
@@antoniodecruz7446
That's a good way of looking at it.I like that.Unfortunately for me my children's mother has zero interest in me being in their lives,all she wants is money,which I have very little of.Its rough
@gregory hudson hang in there bro, youll meet a good girl one day when ya least expect it :)
What an amazing actor Imperioli is.... this is classic shit.
literally emmy caliber performance
If he was an amazing actor, he would make a great career. But he didn't
@@norbath1650 Maybe he is not ass kissing man like some of Hollywood people.
@@norbath1650 he had a great career and is still in a ton of shit. Not everything he does has to be goodfellas or the sopranos, if he did he’d be a type casted actor and he doesn’t want to be that, as id imagine most of them don’t.
@@norbath1650 First of all, why say some stupid shit like that? And it’s not even close to being true. The guy’s been in over 50 films that span from the late 80s all the way up to the present? That’s not a good career?
In this scene, Chis says something like "Tony B could get us all killed with NY, and yet Tony has to think about what to do with him. With me, he doesn't have to think".
This turned out to be eerily accurate. Tony was very reluctant to kill his cousin. But with Chris, he truly had no reservations.
lol what are you talking about. If Christopher was anyone else, he would have been killed much earlier. The drug abuse alone would have probably gotten him killed. Made him unreliable.. and a weak link to law enforcement.
plus him shooting Tony's car, and then coming into the Bing and pointing a gun and pulling the trigger.. even though it was empty. So yeah.. if anyone besides Christopher did that, he would have been whacked much earlier. so Tony had plenty of reservations.
@@ocd9033 That comment is talking about the exact moment when Tony kills him. Once Tony decided to do it, he choked Chris without hesitation or remorse.
@@ureallysuckglobes That doesn't make sense though. Just bc he finally did it, doesn't mean there was no reservations about doing it. Like I said, if literally anyone else did the shit Christopher did, they would have been killed much much sooner. Including Tony B.
That's reservation. And a lot of reservations at that. If he had none, Chris would have been killed much earlier. Like I said.
Eh, there's more nuance to it than this. Chris was allowed to get away with things that would have been a death sentence for a random soldier. And driving a boss under the influence, and getting him into an accident? Who wouldn't have been killed over that, in the mob world?
@@ureallysuckglobes in fairness, Chris was most likely dead anyways. Tony just put him out of his misery in that moment after the car crash
"That's the guy my uncle Tony. The guy I went to hell for"
That’s why I came back to this
It hit harder hearing christopher say that again from hell
@@blackwalker1988 Yeah for real. The entire closing scene gave me chills.
Hell is hot. That's never been disputed by anybody.
Man the way Christopher delivers his lines is just phenomenal. Grade A acting. A lot of people I know say the don't like the mobster aspect of the show, but the character development is perfect.
The mobster aspect of the show is THE SHOW💀💀💀
@@smh40smh44 ur 12 years late man
@@joshuadebosh4615It had to be said.
@@joshuadebosh4615 he had to lay down a truth bomb.
@@smh40smh44
That's the basis of it but it is not all of ''THE SHOW'' ya TYT watching simpleton, meateaters ''meteors, meteors''. 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀.
Poor Chrissie didn't even have a cute little dog to sit on for comfort...
TooLooze lol smh wow
TooLooze: He already had one before remember? Lolz. 😂✌🏽
It was searching for warmth
And nothing of value was lost...
Don't get fucking filthy!
lol every time Chrissy is throwing his rants he always has to chose Adrianna to yell at and she's always crying her poor eyes out...
henney sprite that actually started as soon as the Fed's got her before she was more concerned of what she could get out of it
@@acerothstein4755 she was a waitress.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 she definitely did. She left the Mayo out one to many times
What a poor idiot she was.
He used her as an emotional punching bag, that alone should have given her a reason to dump him
I think why Christopher is the best character in the show is because he is the only character with a sliver of a conscience surrounded by sociopaths. That’s the core of his addiction, he has no meaning and no purpose but it kills him inside unlike the sociopaths he’s surrounded by who’s only purpose is selfish desire
Well said
I agree he’s the best character but he is definitely a sociopath also.
Yeah agree with best character too, but one of the worst sociopaths in the show. Bobby baccala is the only member of jersey who’s not a sociopath
In a way they all have a conscience and suffer. Tony eats and womanizes to deal with the stress of crime he wishes he’d never gotten into the life
Chris is a sociopath too…
What an amazing character. So complex. So human. Incredible acting
The "That's the guy, Adrianna" line is my favorite quote in the entire show, and I geeked out completely when they referenced it in The Many Saints of Newark
@Kamaru Usman didn't reference as much as I figured it would. And it wasn't much of a cheap story since they didn't really have to supply any subplot other than the Dicky Moltisanti stuff but they did, and they could have been real cheap and given us more young Tony screentime but they didn't. But all in all, although the movie wasn't as gimmicky as I thought it'd be, definitely wasn't on-par with the show
MSON. A film watched once and best forgotten.
Absolute shit movie. Idk how stupid you’d have to be to say it wasn’t.
I thought it was pretty bad ass they included that
The Sopranos tried but it could never be The Many Saints of Newark
Taking red wine into a restaurant washroom... Such class! Such dignity! Such wealth!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_wine
He had a wedding to pay for!
Couldn’t just leave a 12 dollar glass of wine laying around only to have to buy another one
0 Fs given lol
Such an honor and feed it to him.
"That's the guy Adrianna, my uncle Tony. The guy I'm going to hell for."
One of Chris' most memorable lines when it comes to discussing Tony. Incredibly ironic to boot, as Tony was not only the reason Chris believed he was going to hell, but actually sent him there himself. Had he known that, maybe he wouldn't have gone to hell after all.
Even if I agreed with the heart of that statement, who did he kill Emil for again? Tony....
+Apple Bee Well if you are assuming hell in the Christian sense the murder of Emil did not send Chris to hell. In the Christian world view you go to hell for one reason...and it's not murder.
+knowsmebyname the bible says that even one lie will condemn someone to hell which is why Jesus had to die for every sin of every person, and that the only reason anyone has to go to hell to pay for their sins is because they "have not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." If you believe on Christ alone and what he did in his death burial and resurrection you can know for a fact you are on your way to heaven and never have to worry about going to hell because Christ died for all of your sins past present and future. God will chasten and punish a Christian for their wrongdoings in this earth but will not send them to he for any reason because the bible promises that "whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." If God takes it away, it was not eternal and didnt last forever. Jesus promises multiple times in the bible that once you come to him he will not send you to hell or kick you out of his family. the same way our parents will always be our parents. most people think being good can get you to heaven. unfortunately the bible says "there is none that doeth good; no not one." we've all sinned many times and can't trust in our own works to save us. the bible says heaven is a free gift completely paid for by Christ and that we receive it one time and are saved forever. the bible plainly states, "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." The bible says over and over that it's only faith that can save. not confessing to a priest, not taking communion weekly, not giving to charity, but believing on Christ and excepting the gift of salvation one time. the bible says "believe on the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life. " If you're trusting Jesus alone you don't have have to worry about going to hell. he won't let you down. the bible is clear Jesus is God manifest in the flesh (God became a person as Jesus) and that he is the one and only way to heaven and to escape hell. "he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him."-John 3:36. TH-cam search "the bible way to heaven" by Sanderson1611 for more info. it's a short video and will show you what God says about it.
Ok I read your little "essay" here and just want to point out you are COMPLETELY WRONG ON ONE OF YOUR OWN MAJOR POINTS: Jesus did not die for "ALL OF OUR SINS, PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE." Jesus died to forgive man of ORIGINAL SIN, because without forgiveness of original sin not a single person past present or future would be born without sin, and thus born to make their own choices to either sin or not. All he did in essence was "wipe the slate clean from birth" but after that there have been PLENTY OF SINNERS who (according to your very own dogman) go to hell (ever read Dante's Inferno? And Jesus had been crucified long before that)? Jesus doesn't remove all sins PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE BY DYING, he removed ORIGINAL SIN WHICH WAS CAUSED BY ADAM AND EVE.
I'm not that into religion but even i know this from the years of bible school I took.
Just by listening to Jesus' preaching and ACTING like a good person, did not make you aoog person and thus you were a sinner. Jesus led by example, he was a "fisher of men" and those that followed his example and lessons are the ones who were welcome into heaven.
And let us not forget Jesus' last words: "Forgive them father, they know not what they do." Even as he lay dying he asked for the forgiveness of those sinning against him and begged for god to spare his wrath upon them.
Pretty much what you said was just a rambling somewhat incoherent mess that completely missed the message, and point, of Jesus dying.
Heaven is NOT A COMPLETELY FREE GIFT GIVEN BY JESUS GIVING HIS LIFE. IT SIMPLY REMOVED ORIGINAL SIN, thus allowing us, mere mortals, THROUGH FREE WILL the CHOICE to make of whether or not to sin farther and throw away the sacrifice Jesus made for us, or to embrace it, love him for it, and lead a good, simple, life, devoid of any extraneous luxuries, and commitment to the aid of the poor, sick, and dying both in word and action, by both donating things that we could go without and that the poor had not and needed in order to survive and even thrive, especially if the person giving them these things taught them the "holy message".
Again, Im not a bible scholar, just someone who attended FAR TOO MANY YEARS OF first communion classes, first confession classes, confirmation and in some instaneces ,fulfill other sacraments by an ordained priest.
Jesus's death did not "remove all sin for all of humanity" it removed ORIGINAL SIN, which was the intent, because without the removal of ORIGINAL SIN no babe, no child, no adult, no anyone, could have EVER made it into heaven even if they lead the most pious, frugal, best life possible. This again is all according to what the poster i am relying to write, as well as my own personal lessons and insights into Christianity, Catholic specifically, the religion I was raised with until the age of 14, and the very blatantly obvious reason of why Jesus died: to forgive ORIGINAL SIN, not ALL sin. If jesus' death forgave all sin, past, present, and future, why in the name of everything would people have to go to confessional? If your position is true, all of their sins are forgiven from the get go, so a person can go out, rape, pillage, and murder and it's all forgiven without any need for confession, absolution or any of the other holy sacraments because "Jesus died for ORIGINAL SIN, a sin that EVERY CHILD WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN WITH HAD JESUS NOT HAVE GIVEN HIS OWN LIFE, and therefore all people, regardless of Christianity, religion, or any good deed they may have done would have allowed them entrance into paradise , because they would have been born with a sign that was not-removable, no matter how many good deeds or great things they accomplished during life. This is why the Virtuous Pagans section of Datnes descent into hell exists: These "Virtuous Pagans exist not in a state of suffering but aside but rather in a sort of state of limbo: these are men who would have, had they accepted Jesus, ascended into heave, because they lead virtuous pious lives, never cheating or committing adultry, and worked for the betterment of man kind.
In fact, some of these very same "virtuous pagans" contributions were so great in gods eyes and they were unable to know of jes existence because they were born before he The Son that is (one of the elements of god) that allowed some of them to ascend into heaven. So no, its not just about all the good you do after your born, but according to CHRISTIAN DOGMA some of these people WERE ALLOWED INTO HEAVEN , or at least denied the suffering of Hell and its rivers of excrement, and hell fire and beating, torture and rape of everyone ranging from babies who went baptized.
Honestly man I think you should read the bible because there are so many things that you stated to be correct that are ust flat out wrong that im wondering if you eve opened up a cliffnotes
KMAC cripes shoulda known this would happen.
CRISTAFUR
I don't think Chris was cut out for the mafia, he was just kinda born into that lifestyle. Too bad he figured that out for himself AFTER he was already a made guy.
He had huge potential but he had a huge maturity problem. Couple that with an addiction problem, recipe for disaster. Kinda reminded me of the class goof off who couldve been an excellent student if he applied himself.
@@rogergarrison4271 plus tony never let him have success
@@tahmidk176 Tony was grooming him to be head of the family. With decisions like the one shown in this clip, wouldn't you keep him on a short leash?
@@rogergarrison4271 you have tony cutting up buddys and doing hits for him. not teaching chris how to earn. and when he makes a mistake you punish him hard. then you dont have his back when his trying to become healthy. you keep offering him drinks, then paulie insults chris's daughter and tony laughs like his neice just didnt get insulted... but let someone say that about meadow.....
Ultimately no one was really cut out for it anymore. Did a single person under 40 join the sopranos family and work out? It just wasn't in anyone's nature anymore to be a patient soldier for a long time in order to rise in an operation that was in decline anyways
0:59 I love the way Chrissy says “WHAT?!”
“That’s the guy, my uncle Tony. The guy I went to hell for.”
1:18 Chris should have joined Ade and became an informant for the FBI. He would have taken down Tony, Paulie, Sil and everyone else. Plus he ane Ade could have been taken into witness protection and lived a good life together
And been a director in Hollywood, under a new name
Imperrioli is such an elite actor. This was his greatest scene in the series.
The scene where he is playing Chris acting in the class is also incredible. What an actor.
I think it's amazing how he once says "I would follow you to the gates of Hell" and he ends up saying "That's the guy I'm going to Hell for." This show had such great writing.
So much insight into the characters in the short scene. Tony tells Christopher about a major fuck up in the cigarette operation he was overseeing and Christopher shrugs it off. He then asks Tony about an “executive- level” issue regarding Phil and Tony B. that is not really his concern.
Like so many who climb the ladder too fast (or are pushed up it) Christopher pre-occupies himself with the high-level issues he believes he should get to work on while half-assing the work he’s been given to gain experience and prove his abilities with.
It’s only when Tony tells Christopher that Paulie is now going to supervise him (and get a cut from his take) does he get the situation. In Christopher’s mind he is Tony’s peer and confidant. Tony just reminded him he still has a long way to go to prove his leadership.
Of course instead of swallowing the bitter pill and learning from it, Chrissy sulks and complains to Adriana.
Matt Pope having Paulie handle it isn’t an improvement
“Executive level decision”? You do know Chris is Tony’s number 2, his heir apparent, and tony b’s cousin. If anyone had the right to ask that question it’s Chris. And how are we mad at Chris for the cigarette shit, that isn’t even really his fault, when Tony’s procrastination on tony b is actively harming his family? Then he puts paulie in there, who is the burgess fuck up in the family?
I mean, you could also argue that Tony is too concerned with the small time shit and ignoring the major threats. And it comes back to bite him in the ass in a major way
None of his bussiness my ass lmfao, do you have any idea how big the tony b problem was it was literally impending doom on the entire family of courze a made guy who’s Tony’s cousin and successor has a right to know about it
@@thedangerwich5476Paulie is a worker and is generally reliable. He's a neurotic maniac who would kill you for $100 and it's said multiple times that he doesn't kick up his full share to Tony, but he undeniably gets the work done. The early scenes when Chrissy gets made show Paulie schooling Christopher on not being late with money, too.
The only time i can think of that shows Paulie in a negative like (in terms of professionalism) is when he needlessly picks a fight with the Czech interior decorator in Pine Barrens, lol. Well, that and his tattling to Johnny Sack. He was just like his adoptive mother in that respect -- a gossip.
it's true though, and sad too. christopher really gave pieces of his soul to tony, he really went to hell for him
We all need a girl like Adriana
BurglxryGB it was awful when she died. The stupidest thing she ever did was love him
She was a druggie
What, a rat that taddles to the feds on you?
where can u find one?
Bahahahaha
I wonder if Michael Imperioli wrote a lot of this character ? Maybe he has some kind of darkness in him because Christopher had fucking demons and the acting is so convincing it makes you wonder. In the show all of them were morally stumped or ambigous but his character stands out above the rest to me as tormented, and no matter the girl/money/power he was never happy.
+John Gunnerek I think that every time I see him. Is he that good of an actor? Which he may be. Or is he somewhat part of Christopher.
I agree. He stood out from the rest to me because he's the youngest.. I often felt very sorry for him for what Tony puts him through. But then again I lost that feeling very quickly when beats the shit out of Adriana or did some other awfull thing.
I agree. He stood out from the rest to me because he's the youngest.. I often felt very sorry for him for what Tony puts him through. But then again I lost that feeling very quickly when beats the shit out of Adriana or did some other awfull thing.
great post bro ....I agree but I think he is just a great actor because what I have read he had a great childhood and has today a great life /kids/wife !
John Gunnerek Yea he's a great actor. Love his face very noticeable and Italian. He rules!
Michael Imperioli NAILED this! What a scene!
I gave that guy a piece of my soul AJIANA!
a subtle reference to Tony's own son! Bravo, Vince!
Age old proverb... "you treat the ones you love the worst"
When he says he gave him pieces of his soul is chilling
I used to work as a field tech for retail. And I saw dozens of manager’s offices with the motto “People might forget what you did, but not how you made them feel”.
If Tony said the same thing in a respectful tone, Chris probably wouldn’t have lashed out. Bottom line “you can be demanding boss, but don’t demean your subordinates”
"My uncle Tony. The guy I'm going to Hell for" is the rawest line on the show
Chrissy boy was loyal to the cause man. Even after all the shit tony gave him he still went to him about adriana. A true Soldier. What a class act imperioli is. ❤
Tony and Christopher had such a fascinating relationship.
"What are you eating dinner?" Always made me laugh because of what a dumb question that is.
@tapset47 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes, it's just making conversation, lol, more than it is asking dumb questions.
@@marissasue319 Better to stay quiet than to make everyone around you think you’re a retard
he's half-drunk I guess :D
hahah...
"hey...are you having dinner?"
Michael plays the drunk ex-junkie so well its unbeliavble!
Chris was no joke when he was sober
for real they all underestimate him
That was very good acting by Michael Imperioli, real good.
"His kids wouldn't even give a shit."
RIP Dickie. What a gentleman.
Here after many saints of newark
Whether they are angry, hurt, happy, sad, in love, heartbroken, etc, Italians are so passionate.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passion_(emotion)
i come away from work feeling like chris sometimes, i’m not so volatile and things aren’t as tense but i feel it
Same
0:41 washed his right hand then proceeds to putting his right hand into the bathroom sink lol
Niesamowicie dobrze zagrana scena.
Chris drinking that wine like it's oxygen.
"That's the guy I'm going to hell for."
God The Sopranos dialogue is great.
I love it when Tony says, "Well if I were you, I'd cut out the open bar!" hehe
This is my fav scene in the series the acting is fucking amazing michael imperioli is a fantastic actor chrissy will always be my favorite tv show character and even in fiction
Chris: MAYBE I NEED TO THINK!! YA EVER THOUGHT OF THAT?
Tony: I dunno. I gonna have to think about it.
Christopher: “You having dinner?”
Tony: 👁️👁️
👃
👄
His acting is impeccable
I ate grilled cheese off the radiator...
While I watched this .
I call that compromise
You wanted manicoti
Fckin disgrace
I judge people when they say they don’t like The Sopranos. The acting, particularly in the later seasons is mesmeric.
1:06 Chris looks like a puppet off Sesame Street.
the count
Gonzo
HAHAHAHHAHA
It’s most probably his hair that gives it away. Similar to Sil’s almost.
HAHHAHAHAHHAA!!
“I gave that fuck pieces of my soul, adrianna” one of my favourite scenes in the entire show
"Can I talk to you?...".
When I first watched this episode, I thought to myself "That's Tony's way of saying that you're in trouble.".
I was 15½ when this episode first aired & even then, I had a feeling that something was gonna go down between the 2 of them.
Michael Imperioli is such an underrated actor. I wish he played more roles like this. NOBODY ELSE could have played Chrissy Moltisanti.
Paulie comes in after Chris throws the drink. "Hey...Chrissie, I'm supervising you now, hehehe".😂
Michael Imperioli was so awesome on this show. IMHO he was the most talented actor on The Sopranos.
"That's the guy, Adjzhrianna"
For Tony to leave his plate, you know Chrissy really fucked up.
Imperoli is a fan of Morrissey and The Smiths. Heaven Knows i’m Miserable Now sums up his feeling perfectly here.
“In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?”
His finest scene in the show.
I sympathize with alcoholics who have is offered a drink at work related events and is judged for drinking it.
They give you a drink with one hand and judge you with the other
Tony's face is hilarious when Chris says u having dinner???
Badass actor
Great scene ... thanks for uploading
Michael would always body these Tony rants! Every single time.
Great acting from all
There was some great dialogue that helps convey deeply hurtful and traumatic things family members can say to each other. Tony’s quote about the open bar was too deep of a cut, and I could feel Chris’s ears ringing and the glossed eyes of just pure hurt
you know I can take him out in a second “BANG”!!😂
Even after realizing how much Tony really doesn’t respect him, he still chose him over Adrianna and she went all out for him.
tony and christopher relationship mirrors christopher and adriana relationship in a way
That's his boss and uncle of course he's gonna chose him over his girlfriend who ratted them out.
Christopha never had the makings of a varsity alcoholic
One scene where both actors are so beyond the game of acting, incredible performance
Adriana and Christopher’s neighbors must really love them.
1:35 he got his advice hes drinking
The one thing that Christopher keep doing wrong, among others things, is that he tell Adriana everything and that's not good. That's part of the reason why the Feds kept questioning her. She knew too much.
Christopher’s character’s apex in this scene.
Chris wasn't lying either
For some reason this scene reminded me of Anakin being denied the rank of master/member of the Jedi Council. Their relation all stems from the lack of respect due to their adolescence, and it resulted in both of them going mad.
“Chris-ta-fah”
what a line at the end
From “My Uncle Tony; the guy I’m going to Hell for”
To “My Uncle Tony, the guy i went to hell for”
Imperoli and Chrissy are the greatest
Michael Imperioli and Tony Sirico were the two best actors on the show.
Chris Karam Two OF the best actors.
Brilliant acting by all in this episode
I can relate to his character so much
Brilliant performance by Michael Imperioli
Such an amazing scene it really shows us Chris' acumen for acting
Michael
Christopher: You having dinner?\
Tony's face: What the fuck you think we are doing here?
Definitely a death stare
Scenes like this remind me how damn good the acting was in this series
I'm divided on this whole Tony vs Christopher thing. On one hand, it's undeniable that Tony undermines him and kicks him when he's down. That said, Tony also handed Chris the keys to the kingdom. He was to be the new boss of the family. It's not unreasonable to have higher standards for someone like that and even berate them at times to prepare them for the position. It's a complex dynamic.
That was a very well acted scene
He was such a good actor
Imagine being Christopher moltisantis neighbor
Actual video of Chris getting ready to protect pizza parlors from being disrespected
such a good scene
Classic scene! Great job with this vid.